Growing up, Kenshi has always been my personal favorite character. I always liked the whole idea of a blind swordsman and I think that idea is executed very well with Kenshi. With MK1 being the first game in a while that Kenshi has been in, I was incredibly happy for him to be in the game period. Him being top 1 or at the very least tied for top 1 makes me incredibly happy.
It’s a little weird seeing some of these characters high up but I can understand why. That being said, it’s going to change again now that Tremor is out for preorder players so we might see an interesting new dynamic
It was interesting for me to see how Sindel has been developed. I'd been watching Koisy shmix people with her, but I actually thought maybe her zoning wasn't that good since he didn't use it that much. But then I saw Sonic absolutely abuse the projectiles in their own videos. And in the video where they made this tier list, Koisy showed up in the chat and Sonic told him that combining their neutral with Koisy's setups was the more optimal way to play her.
Shao doesnt even need a kameo for his damage. I think for him, his kameo should supplement his lack of projectiles or allow him to combo from his overhead, giving him a genuine 50/50 mix up. The damage he gains from someone like scorpion or goro doesn't merit losing his ability to quickly cover full screen or lose his 50/50s. Ive been using him since day 1 and have been saying hes nowhere near as bad as others say he is. Edit: tanya, kitana, and sub zero are the hardest for me to deal with online. Tanya has the best range in the game, and as a shao main, that neutralizes his biggest strength
@@TrueUnderDawgGamingdamn Underdawg for a moment I thought you were talking about Sub-Zero the character not the kameo.... I was like "something about Sub i haven't been implement-aaaahhhh nevermind. The other guy."
Sonic fox has his own tier list that applies to him, and not 99.99% of other players. You'd think after all these years people would realize. You're better off looking a tweed or foxy grandpa to guage a more accurate tier list.
I mean, this is about as accurate as a tier list can get at the professional level, though of course it's filled with biases that's just how these things work. But absolutely, tier lists don't apply to 99% of players, especially sonic foxes. People just find it fun and sometimes get too invested at how good characters are at a top level compared to where they currently stand.
As a Reptile main, I can definitely agree with his placement. He's not the best, but he's definitely not the worst. He's not all too great with combos, but he takes defense better and is better as a punish character.
I've been playing a lot of geras since the game came out, And it's incredibly fun learning him, my favorite moment in his gameplay is when you learn to do a double time stop combo, The style of that alone wins me over
As a Sindel player, I do agree with Sonicfox. She can do anything she want. She can be played with any kameo. Hell, she can even change her playstyle in the middle of the game. She's the most perfect Character for me.
crazy that everyone is just glossing over havik in bottom 3 and not acknowledging him being there but everyone was trying to put him way higher than he is in sonics tier list
Love your content Underdawg!!! This shows that any character no matter what can be good in the right hands! No character is bad or unusable like I’ve seen some say! And you don’t have to be a pro for this statement to be true; I’m definitely not, and I’ve won a lot of games with Sub!!!
kenshi / tremor is best pair you could have, it adds range when you toss projectiles with tremor and you can also apply rock armor to yourself so you can go in with the tanto stance or just using the regular sword but either way kenshi is a dope fighter.
I have been watching your videos for years now and i think this is my first comment. That being said, I am a father of 2 and only get to play about an hour a night. I enjoy all the single player versions of this game but I am wondering what character I should focus on for online play. So far I am pretty good with raiden but I am wanting to try something new
First i will say sonicfox isnt always right. I remember him saying the ssj vegeta was trash in dbfz and then got washed by go1 using him. But besides that i actually agree with the list mostly. Alot of the characters that i said were better then people were giving credit are placed where i thought. And as a shao main i feel vindicated.
With the way mk1 is I feel like there should be 2 tier lists one just the characters and the other the characters with there best kamo partner or just make one massive list with the characters on there own and each kamo for every character
@@Kitsune986 not really kamos are very helpful and are needed for high lvl play but some characters are just that good you don't even need to use a kamo
@@TheRealDeclou Yes, really, lmfao. This is literally how assist games work. It doesn't matter in the slightest if a character is self-sufficient. Separating characters from assists is just ridiculous since assists are literally hard baked into the game. I get you've never played an assist game before, but please just stop. This isn't how it works
@@Kitsune986 assuming I haven't played a fighting game with assists is retarded umvc3 and fighers are all about assist but you can get away with not using them with certain characters hell Virgil in umvc 3 is so good he doesn't need assist I'm just saying having a proper list that shows who works best with who like how ssj vegetas A assist is a good combo tool but he's not needes for certain characters
Idk id put reptile below smoke... Sure reptile gets free invisibility but it takes time to activate and some characters can teleport to you in that time ... Just food for thought 😅 not to mention hes unsafe in everything most people jump over his projectile and the amount of times i use the close on to counter the jump and it disappears as they are right on it is sad 😂 but decent list and i agree in the right hands any character works
@@Kitsune986 maybe w sub 0 armor or a freeze of frost freeze for sure... Idk how scorpion would... Resetting full screen doesnt guarantee invisibility when many characters can teleport... And most things that I can pop invisibility on would also mean giving up a solid 30%+ combo just to go invisible for 5 seconds 😂 the most convenient ive noticed for myself is against players who sit and block and wait for you to be unsafe on block.
@@HashiramaSells 1.) Dude, watch HoneyBee, lol. He uses Scorpion for guaranteed invisibility setups. HoneyBee has literally hit SonicFox and other pro players with invisible Reptile to success 2.) You're going invisible for mix, increasing your chances of getting a hit and doing damage. It's that simple. 3.) With Scorpion, you're still doing over 30% before going invisible 4.) 5 seconds in a fighting game is basically a year, lol
@@Kitsune986 yea until they sit and block low im a corner which the only way you can start a combo off that is w the charged overhead and if im too far itll drop the combo at the end and if im too close ill just go over them... And normally thats easy to figure out but if im invisible its a bit different... Sure theres pros who know how to make things work for them i prefer not watching videos on my main and learning myself and by fighting and losing to better players and learning off that. Whats the fun if I watch what someone else figured out get this really high damage safe combo all from watching a YT video 😂
@@Kitsune986 also i guess w scorpion youre doing his air ability off a combo and then going invisible right after then able to set up a 2nd combo... That makes sense but still not my playstyle.
As a omni man main i agree.what atops him from going into hard s+ is his weakness to low rush down and that mids are also his weakness in terms of tool kit.my friend is a raiden main and i agree purely because of that low rush down amd that allot of his moves are really safe, especially with the right cameo
As a Sub main I have to say depending on the day, I sometimes literally back out when I see Raiden Jax combo. Shit is borderline unplayable against sometimes
The new strat with raiden is to pair him with kano and either teleport or superman fly to the other side of the screen, activate kano knives and then teleport or fly back. So essentially you dont even see kano appear but his knives come out and hit you. Its pretty fucking cheap.
SonicFox isn't always right, he makes some bad calls sometimes. Nonetheless, I just like watching, I don't know ir care how to play MK1 vs MK11(I dropped it a year before MK1).
I want to be fair. Sonicfox's list is opinion, and its intended for pro level, but what did he gain from throwing shade at the majority of the fanbase, and why? (For those not in the know he said 99% of MK's fanbase opinions are dogwater). Nothing against you Underdawg, maybe you saw the tweet later or want to distance yourself from it and focus on the material. I was a fan of him, and yes I see dumb opinions sometimes (not 99% of the time...) but that was really unnecessary and I imagine not true. The plus side? The ole saying don't meet your heros* You don't need to meet your hero to be disappointed, when they can disappoint you from home. I lost my respect for him.
And their pronouns are they/them. Singular They has existed for longer than plural they, by the way. The word "they", when first created, was to refer to people you didn't know, as you weren't certain of their gender. Nowadays, it is also used as a way for non-binary people to refer to themselves. Plus, I'm pretty certain if someone talked to you about someone else you didn't know, you'd use "they" subconsciously.
@@realinteal9298 The actual usage of 'they' to refer to a person has absolutely nothing to do with gender as the above comment stated (though I expect you didn't fully read it), though it has evolved to be used by people who wish to be referred to that way. Oh and things relating to gender and transgender stuff isn't a mental illness, that classification was removed after many studies found no link whatsoever.
@@realinteal9298 So you concede, you don't have a rebuttal here. If you wish to learn more, please do so instead of denying anything you don't like as 'stupid'
and like every other tier list people put out, 70% of the roster is in the INCREDIBLE OMG SO GOOD tier. tier lists should be a bell curve. if everyone is incredible, no one is incredible
Ya know what is crazy? I have watched many MK1 tier lists & I have noticed one thing..."moma" Sindel is totally the "Queen of Extremes." In the many MK1 tier lists I have watched on here on TH-cam, She is either in the top 5 or the bottom 5; No happy mediums. I'm feel very justified that the best professional MK1 player to date agrees with me about putting "the Queen" in the top 3.
I been rocking havik all week (just got the game) I get bodied online more times then not but I can still get some surprise wins with havik have unlocked all his brutalities and fatalities let me know who I should run next
UnderDawg you read all comments right? If you see this can you do a video on how to go from casual to skilled in mk1? Or at least reply to this comment with some tips for a Cage main.
I can agree with this list for the most part. But what I really need is a character that can parry!! Like Sonya!! Or honestly any character that can parry like her, high parry, low parry like come on!
I think sonic fox is right that every character in this game is good if you match it with the right character but if you want to make a truely accurate tier list make it after the 3 goats of mortal Kombat made theres that being sonic fox ninjakilla and scorpionprocs then build a tier list of that every character in this game is capable of doing massive damage but this list will change in the coming years with out a doubt in my mind
I definitely think they should buff sub and Scorpion easily to top of S tier. Like somewhere ahead of Kitana because they are low-key ass if you don’t spend weeks learning every single frame of their move set.
Idk about Scorpion but Sub Zero is ass because he literally only has 1 launcher that can be fuzzy guarded while also being the most unsafe move in the game. Also has a lot of gaps in his strings. Not to mention no matter what Kameo you use you're going to be sacrificing something else. Kung Lao gives Sub safe options, set up and utility but you don't get as many combo options as Goro/Sonya or the hit confirms and higher damage of Sareena. He's solid otherwise if you can get past his lack of damage. Furthest reaching d1 in the game, 50/50, ok zoning, a safe dive kick, a low that tracks and a mid range projectile that destroys 1 enemy projectile
Just got a PS5 for Christmas. First game I bought is mk1 my favorite character is sub zero and they did him dirty😂 I wanna play with him but not if he sucks lol
Im so happy i have a good instinct for character balance ive spent a decent amount of time atleast trying out all the characters and completing all the combo trials and playing them all in ranked atleast to level 14 for the second fatality. And after fighting alot of really good Demi god players i came to the conclusion that no one is bad, some characters have more obvious weaknesses but those same problems can be solved with proper kameo usage and the netherrealm team did Soo so good this time around im glad sonic can see the balance clearly like the god he is 🎉🎉
As a Havik main I would have to disagree with Sonic. I mean he is probably right but I think he is more on par with Kung Lao and Tanya. His has some of the best buttons in the game like back 4 is the best and back 2. Even down 4 is almost as good as reptiles. Plus you can have 3 projectiles in the air at the same time.
I think the thing that would help sub zero is actually having a good ice ball because it sucks in this game make itnso you can combo into it from the ground or add the fast ice ball from mkx which good combo on ground from most strings with a meter burn. Please give me your insight trueunderdawggaming
The sentiment is nice, but no. Some characters in fighting games are genuinely so awful that the only way they can be "God tier" is if your opponent is a complete noob
@@IamKang2009 tbh it’s either a troll from Ed or it’s true either way as long as the voice actor gets the Homelander feel of how he speaks I’m all good it doesn’t have to be the exact same actor inp for example GOW change voice actors yet both had that Kratos voice and their rage felt the same so you still know it’s Kratos and doesn’t feel off. Nothing will beat Megan Fox so it should good 🤷🏽♂️
@@97lxrd yeah I just hope that they make it feel the same like how he talks in the show he makes fun of people so I hope that comes with him too and what kameo could possibly be s tier that's dlc?
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Why do you refer to sonicfox to they????
I hate SonicFox!!!!!!!👊🏻🎮🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻
@@AsanteAdventureTVmaybe SonicFox is non-binary? …
They made sure
Sonic is a they?
Sonicfox said at the tournament... 'if you dont think rain is top 5 then you dont know how to play him'... guy changes his mind every 10 mins...
It was also before the patch with cyrax ???? You dumb or sum?
Maybe it’s because his best kameo got nerfed 😱😱😱😱
Called a patch jackass
they prob changed their mind on Rain because Rain got nerfed after tournament
I mean, you're not wrong. Sonic shuffled everyone around constantly while talking to the chat.
Growing up, Kenshi has always been my personal favorite character. I always liked the whole idea of a blind swordsman and I think that idea is executed very well with Kenshi. With MK1 being the first game in a while that Kenshi has been in, I was incredibly happy for him to be in the game period. Him being top 1 or at the very least tied for top 1 makes me incredibly happy.
I mean kenshi is historically at the top in the games he’s in
"first game in a while"
Yeah let's forget the fact Kenshi has been in 3/4 of the past 4 games.
@@runkstrunks dude it was a 4 year gap between mk11 and mk1, let me have my fun lmao
@@HimothyHimsworthy Fair enough, I'm just happy that trend has continued
@@hiddenenvy I’m glad kenshi is in mk1 too, he has always been one of my favorites and I’m glad others like him too!
For Sonic fox every character is s+ tier, I mean he consistently wins tournaments for fun with the most unexpected characters
Did he won MK11 with Spawn?
Idk he put sub near the bottom he knows which characters are on the struggle bus
It’s a little weird seeing some of these characters high up but I can understand why. That being said, it’s going to change again now that Tremor is out for preorder players so we might see an interesting new dynamic
It was interesting for me to see how Sindel has been developed. I'd been watching Koisy shmix people with her, but I actually thought maybe her zoning wasn't that good since he didn't use it that much. But then I saw Sonic absolutely abuse the projectiles in their own videos. And in the video where they made this tier list, Koisy showed up in the chat and Sonic told him that combining their neutral with Koisy's setups was the more optimal way to play her.
Shao doesnt even need a kameo for his damage. I think for him, his kameo should supplement his lack of projectiles or allow him to combo from his overhead, giving him a genuine 50/50 mix up. The damage he gains from someone like scorpion or goro doesn't merit losing his ability to quickly cover full screen or lose his 50/50s. Ive been using him since day 1 and have been saying hes nowhere near as bad as others say he is.
Edit: tanya, kitana, and sub zero are the hardest for me to deal with online. Tanya has the best range in the game, and as a shao main, that neutralizes his biggest strength
Online, Subzero gives me trouble as Shao as well. Definitely think Sub is slept on, at the very least when playing against him online
Sub Zero does both :)
Freezes then to guarantee damage buff and can make Shao projectile immune 👍
@@TrueUnderDawgGamingdamn Underdawg for a moment I thought you were talking about Sub-Zero the character not the kameo.... I was like "something about Sub i haven't been implement-aaaahhhh nevermind. The other guy."
After TrueUnderDawg’s vid on Shao that’s who I chose as my main and it’s the only time I’ve ever felt good at a fighting game but I could be carried
@@TrueUnderDawgGamingyou juat Don't want subzero to be good
Sonic fox has his own tier list that applies to him, and not 99.99% of other players. You'd think after all these years people would realize. You're better off looking a tweed or foxy grandpa to guage a more accurate tier list.
I mean, this is about as accurate as a tier list can get at the professional level, though of course it's filled with biases that's just how these things work.
But absolutely, tier lists don't apply to 99% of players, especially sonic foxes. People just find it fun and sometimes get too invested at how good characters are at a top level compared to where they currently stand.
Only way to fix Scorpion is giving him new strings, and that's impossible I guess.
They literally gave characters new strings in MKX and MK11 so why would it be impossible.
It's completely possible, the real question is, is it likely? You never know with NRS
This aged poorly
@@Sassi-vl thank god it did.
As a Reptile main, I can definitely agree with his placement. He's not the best, but he's definitely not the worst. He's not all too great with combos, but he takes defense better and is better as a punish character.
You see sonic fox fight 6arakin, one of the best things ever
WE GET IT BRO “YOU TOLD US SO” HOLY SHIT
For real I stopped watching him he’s an actual narcissist
If u read all comments then u shud know ur fs my fav TH-camr ur so consistent uploading and ur videos are always so fascinating
Awww, thanks!
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I've been playing a lot of geras since the game came out,
And it's incredibly fun learning him, my favorite moment in his gameplay is when you learn to do a double time stop combo,
The style of that alone wins me over
I think he slept on
Yeah Geras is fun to play
As a Sindel player, I do agree with Sonicfox. She can do anything she want. She can be played with any kameo. Hell, she can even change her playstyle in the middle of the game. She's the most perfect Character for me.
Out of curiosity, how do you play her with darius or motaro?
@@NarcoticDimension motaro if I'm facing a zoner or for mix up. Darrius can be used for combo extension either after f34 or b3.
crazy that everyone is just glossing over havik in bottom 3 and not acknowledging him being there but everyone was trying to put him way higher than he is in sonics tier list
Just skip to 11 minutes, pause, then zoom in. So much faster.
Love your content Underdawg!!! This shows that any character no matter what can be good in the right hands! No character is bad or unusable like I’ve seen some say! And you don’t have to be a pro for this statement to be true; I’m definitely not, and I’ve won a lot of games with Sub!!!
I had 1 today kick my reptile ass lol guys was good with 50/50 and close game we both landed 1 bar 50 percenter
I bet Ed Boon is more proud of Sonic Foxx than his actual father.
Considering SonicFox is a non-binary furry, it makes sense😅
@@DooDooWater9732-n5z he's one of those furry freaks? I thought it was just a hat he wore around.
@@devilpupbear09Yep. It's disgusting 🤢😂
You missed Havik
“Their tier list” lol
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@@V15.12 agreed
Should be his tier list
I saw his tier and he ranked Rain lower because of the cameo nurf to Cyrax without that Nurf he would have ranked Rain in S Plus tier
NinjaKilla vs SonicFox is already a Classic Mk match
kenshi / tremor is best pair you could have, it adds range when you toss projectiles with tremor and you can also apply rock armor to yourself so you can go in with the tanto stance or just using the regular sword but either way kenshi is a dope fighter.
I have been watching your videos for years now and i think this is my first comment. That being said, I am a father of 2 and only get to play about an hour a night. I enjoy all the single player versions of this game but I am wondering what character I should focus on for online play. So far I am pretty good with raiden but I am wanting to try something new
What are your thoughts on smoke and li mei being placed on the tier list
luv da vid!! Rain top 5 => then thy nerfed cameo >= Every1 in S+ has something busted => A+ is good but Got to WoRk wOrK WoRK work WOrK >=
I been playing Sindel 3 days ago cuz it reminds me of my Kabal with her floating in the sky
First i will say sonicfox isnt always right. I remember him saying the ssj vegeta was trash in dbfz and then got washed by go1 using him. But besides that i actually agree with the list mostly. Alot of the characters that i said were better then people were giving credit are placed where i thought. And as a shao main i feel vindicated.
As a Kenshi main, this makes me so happy! :))
Is this Sonic's most recent tier list? If so, he explains why Rain is where he is and it's mainly due to the Cyrax nerf.
Happy to hear him saying that Sub isn't the worse and seeing as he's the best player his views matter.
Now I wanna see a ninjakilla tier list
At some point in the future are you making a full costume tierlist (making all color changes of one skin as one)
With the way mk1 is I feel like there should be 2 tier lists one just the characters and the other the characters with there best kamo partner or just make one massive list with the characters on there own and each kamo for every character
I agree with this
That would be pointless because assists are literally just as big a part of the game as the characters themselves
@@Kitsune986 not really kamos are very helpful and are needed for high lvl play but some characters are just that good you don't even need to use a kamo
@@TheRealDeclou
Yes, really, lmfao. This is literally how assist games work. It doesn't matter in the slightest if a character is self-sufficient. Separating characters from assists is just ridiculous since assists are literally hard baked into the game.
I get you've never played an assist game before, but please just stop. This isn't how it works
@@Kitsune986 assuming I haven't played a fighting game with assists is retarded umvc3 and fighers are all about assist but you can get away with not using them with certain characters hell Virgil in umvc 3 is so good he doesn't need assist I'm just saying having a proper list that shows who works best with who like how ssj vegetas A assist is a good combo tool but he's not needes for certain characters
Idk id put reptile below smoke... Sure reptile gets free invisibility but it takes time to activate and some characters can teleport to you in that time ... Just food for thought 😅 not to mention hes unsafe in everything most people jump over his projectile and the amount of times i use the close on to counter the jump and it disappears as they are right on it is sad 😂 but decent list and i agree in the right hands any character works
Assists like Sub-Zero and Scorpion guarantee invisibility
@@Kitsune986 maybe w sub 0 armor or a freeze of frost freeze for sure... Idk how scorpion would... Resetting full screen doesnt guarantee invisibility when many characters can teleport... And most things that I can pop invisibility on would also mean giving up a solid 30%+ combo just to go invisible for 5 seconds 😂 the most convenient ive noticed for myself is against players who sit and block and wait for you to be unsafe on block.
@@HashiramaSells
1.) Dude, watch HoneyBee, lol. He uses Scorpion for guaranteed invisibility setups. HoneyBee has literally hit SonicFox and other pro players with invisible Reptile to success
2.) You're going invisible for mix, increasing your chances of getting a hit and doing damage. It's that simple.
3.) With Scorpion, you're still doing over 30% before going invisible
4.) 5 seconds in a fighting game is basically a year, lol
@@Kitsune986 yea until they sit and block low im a corner which the only way you can start a combo off that is w the charged overhead and if im too far itll drop the combo at the end and if im too close ill just go over them... And normally thats easy to figure out but if im invisible its a bit different... Sure theres pros who know how to make things work for them i prefer not watching videos on my main and learning myself and by fighting and losing to better players and learning off that. Whats the fun if I watch what someone else figured out get this really high damage safe combo all from watching a YT video 😂
@@Kitsune986 also i guess w scorpion youre doing his air ability off a combo and then going invisible right after then able to set up a 2nd combo... That makes sense but still not my playstyle.
Literally when the came first came out i was on rain first and i prayed that a pro would give him props
As a omni man main i agree.what atops him from going into hard s+ is his weakness to low rush down and that mids are also his weakness in terms of tool kit.my friend is a raiden main and i agree purely because of that low rush down amd that allot of his moves are really safe, especially with the right cameo
Raiden / Jax together is OP 45% 1 bar into an unblockable reset that slaps you for another 40%
As a Sub main I have to say depending on the day, I sometimes literally back out when I see Raiden Jax combo. Shit is borderline unplayable against sometimes
The new strat with raiden is to pair him with kano and either teleport or superman fly to the other side of the screen, activate kano knives and then teleport or fly back. So essentially you dont even see kano appear but his knives come out and hit you. Its pretty fucking cheap.
Sonic pretty good I gotta watch him more.
SonicFox isn't always right, he makes some bad calls sometimes. Nonetheless, I just like watching, I don't know ir care how to play MK1 vs MK11(I dropped it a year before MK1).
I just started using rain and he’s phenomenal in my opinion he’s one of the best characters
as a havik main i feel like him being a+ is too generous
I definitely agree with sonic on Kenshi being the best character even if ur a good Johnny main sento is a problem if ur not careful
But like take Kenshi for example, hes a a strong character but hard af to learn, does that really make a character good?
Wtf??? Yes. Being trash isn't taken into account when making a tier list tf
I guess that means Netherrealm did a great job in balancing characters!
As a Kitana main I feel satisfied🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
A video on the guy who calls us all dogwater, how cool.
I want to be fair. Sonicfox's list is opinion, and its intended for pro level, but what did he gain from throwing shade at the majority of the fanbase, and why? (For those not in the know he said 99% of MK's fanbase opinions are dogwater).
Nothing against you Underdawg, maybe you saw the tweet later or want to distance yourself from it and focus on the material. I was a fan of him, and yes I see dumb opinions sometimes (not 99% of the time...) but that was really unnecessary and I imagine not true.
The plus side?
The ole saying don't meet your heros*
You don't need to meet your hero to be disappointed, when they can disappoint you from home.
I lost my respect for him.
With raiden he has some mix ups depending on kameo but you have to rely on frame trapping and whiff punishing
He* the man is one person
And their pronouns are they/them. Singular They has existed for longer than plural they, by the way. The word "they", when first created, was to refer to people you didn't know, as you weren't certain of their gender. Nowadays, it is also used as a way for non-binary people to refer to themselves. Plus, I'm pretty certain if someone talked to you about someone else you didn't know, you'd use "they" subconsciously.
@@rosiesuwu a man is a man. A woman is a woman. Quit with the mental illness crap.
@@realinteal9298 The actual usage of 'they' to refer to a person has absolutely nothing to do with gender as the above comment stated (though I expect you didn't fully read it), though it has evolved to be used by people who wish to be referred to that way. Oh and things relating to gender and transgender stuff isn't a mental illness, that classification was removed after many studies found no link whatsoever.
@@SolarArkon look, not playing the stupid pronoun games. Get offended, oh well. Gotta grow up eventually.
@@realinteal9298 So you concede, you don't have a rebuttal here. If you wish to learn more, please do so instead of denying anything you don't like as 'stupid'
and like every other tier list people put out, 70% of the roster is in the INCREDIBLE OMG SO GOOD tier. tier lists should be a bell curve. if everyone is incredible, no one is incredible
"If everyone is super, no one's super."
As it should be
Sonic said it was the cyrax nerf that dropped rain. Never thought rain was top tier but sonic did before the nerf - def not down playing him.
I don't play MK1 yet (don't have next gen console), but I want to try out playing Syzoth and Bi-Han. Any tips?
Ya know what is crazy? I have watched many MK1 tier lists & I have noticed one thing..."moma" Sindel is totally the "Queen of Extremes." In the many MK1 tier lists I have watched on here on TH-cam, She is either in the top 5 or the bottom 5; No happy mediums. I'm feel very justified that the best professional MK1 player to date agrees with me about putting "the Queen" in the top 3.
Sonicfox is my fav mk player
I want kotal Kahn back :(((((((((((((
Praise the sun ☀️
KK is in a wheelchair still😔
@@DooDooWater9732-n5z Infinite timelines remember! Our Khan has to rule at least one.
Sonicfox made the tier list on his TH-cam channel
This season i plan on making this tier list
Where I can watch your gameplay (kasuals or KL) videos?
His* tier list. He’s a dude. Stop the cap.
The only thing i agree 100% is that scorpion and subzero need buffs asap. They're basically the main characters of mk come on!
Ashrah is everything! 💛
Sonic fox is one person 🤯
THEY will beat your ass every time 😭😭😭
I been rocking havik all week (just got the game) I get bodied online more times then not but I can still get some surprise wins with havik have unlocked all his brutalities and fatalities let me know who I should run next
UnderDawg you read all comments right? If you see this can you do a video on how to go from casual to skilled in mk1? Or at least reply to this comment with some tips for a Cage main.
I'm surprised by his Tier list except for Kenshi my main Geras ,well actually there both tied at first place for me.😅
I fucking love rain in this game. I get so much hate but hes the best
I im the storm that is approaching
They did my boi scorpion dirty in this game, makes me sad😢
2:30 and a few weeks later sub zero got a buff, W jinx
Sub zero and scorpion karry mortal kombat. The disrespect netherrealm has inflicted on the fans is OUTSTANDING 💀
Tremor just changed this whole list lol.
No one listened to me when I said rain was a fucking issue
Im glad they put Rain in base roster! And i was going to main him if they didnt have any of my other favorites 😂
I still think Shao needs a buff to his wake-up
He does 👍
the glazing is absurd
Every time u call SonicFox “they” I’m thinking of him being like a supreme being 😂
Based off his game style he pretty much is compared to the average competitive player, especially when put up against these people in the comments
Ong. He's just a dude, no matter how much makeup😂
@@DooDooWater9732-n5z for real. I was also thinking why not say “he” since it’s only him who made the list
@@Blacknight6577Fr😂
I can agree with this list for the most part. But what I really need is a character that can parry!! Like Sonya!! Or honestly any character that can parry like her, high parry, low parry like come on!
i will return to this game when i see sub zero and scorpion in tier lists higher :)
They are still very strong characters. I have been beasting with Sub Zero! And it looks like Tremor might be his best partner now :D
Underdawg ik this is pretty random but who do u main
I think sonic fox is right that every character in this game is good if you match it with the right character but if you want to make a truely accurate tier list make it after the 3 goats of mortal Kombat made theres that being sonic fox ninjakilla and scorpionprocs then build a tier list of that every character in this game is capable of doing massive damage but this list will change in the coming years with out a doubt in my mind
I definitely think they should buff sub and Scorpion easily to top of S tier. Like somewhere ahead of Kitana because they are low-key ass if you don’t spend weeks learning every single frame of their move set.
Idk about Scorpion but Sub Zero is ass because he literally only has 1 launcher that can be fuzzy guarded while also being the most unsafe move in the game. Also has a lot of gaps in his strings. Not to mention no matter what Kameo you use you're going to be sacrificing something else.
Kung Lao gives Sub safe options, set up and utility but you don't get as many combo options as Goro/Sonya or the hit confirms and higher damage of Sareena.
He's solid otherwise if you can get past his lack of damage. Furthest reaching d1 in the game, 50/50, ok zoning, a safe dive kick, a low that tracks and a mid range projectile that destroys 1 enemy projectile
Just got a PS5 for Christmas. First game I bought is mk1 my favorite character is sub zero and they did him dirty😂 I wanna play with him but not if he sucks lol
Do you think NRS will add invasion seasons for dlc who arnt guess charters bc as a Ermac fan I wish they add some cool skins for him.
They must give Scorpion at least a low starting combo
sub zero mains in shambles
>Best player in the world
>SonicFox
Pick one.
I agree the game feels pretty balanced 👌
Im so happy i have a good instinct for character balance ive spent a decent amount of time atleast trying out all the characters and completing all the combo trials and playing them all in ranked atleast to level 14 for the second fatality.
And after fighting alot of really good Demi god players i came to the conclusion that no one is bad, some characters have more obvious weaknesses but those same problems can be solved with proper kameo usage and the netherrealm team did Soo so good this time around im glad sonic can see the balance clearly like the god he is 🎉🎉
As a Havik main I would have to disagree with Sonic. I mean he is probably right but I think he is more on par with Kung Lao and Tanya. His has some of the best buttons in the game like back 4 is the best and back 2. Even down 4 is almost as good as reptiles. Plus you can have 3 projectiles in the air at the same time.
I think the thing that would help sub zero is actually having a good ice ball because it sucks in this game make itnso you can combo into it from the ground or add the fast ice ball from mkx which good combo on ground from most strings with a meter burn. Please give me your insight trueunderdawggaming
I said billion times. There is no such thing as tier list. Every character can be god tier if know how to play with him.
The sentiment is nice, but no. Some characters in fighting games are genuinely so awful that the only way they can be "God tier" is if your opponent is a complete noob
Omniman online is definitely s+, i have flawless'ed too many rounds with him and frost for him to be any lower
1:25 Bro Sonic dropped the: "they/them".
What dlc character could potentially be s tier?
What do you think Underdawg
Homelander 🤔
@@97lxrd why do you think that if Anthony Starr isn't voicing him
@@IamKang2009 tbh it’s either a troll from Ed or it’s true either way as long as the voice actor gets the Homelander feel of how he speaks I’m all good it doesn’t have to be the exact same actor inp for example GOW change voice actors yet both had that Kratos voice and their rage felt the same so you still know it’s Kratos and doesn’t feel off. Nothing will beat Megan Fox so it should good 🤷🏽♂️
@@97lxrd yeah I just hope that they make it feel the same like how he talks in the show he makes fun of people so I hope that comes with him too and what kameo could possibly be s tier that's dlc?
I have a question underdog, what kameo do you think is the best overall
Lao easily, every character gets true 50/50 mix and plus block strings
Why would you ask someone who's trash at the game. It's kung lao rn.
@@rudolphschmidt313 he didn't ask you though...
@@rudolphschmidt313What tf did UnderDawg do
@@rudolphschmidt313 thanks but, why you gotta disrespect underdog like that
He explains that with goros overhead grab, and raiden having a 3x low attack, the mindgames are dumb.
i wont take the labels on the tier list to heart. Sonicfox could beat every one with a literal potato. That doesn't mean a potato is s++ tier.