I’ve had this exact setup for ~18 months. The wheel does turn off after a while if not used, pull both paddles to reconnect. I leave mine on 24/7, haven’t replaced the battery and the wireless connection has always been rock solid.
I love seeing the accessible stuff that the everyman can afford, but I'll admit that I really like these in-depth looks at hardware I will never, in a million years, be able to justify purchasing. Great stuff! Edit: 100% yes, please do a review! Is it actually worth the added, nearly doubled, expense?
This is exactly how I feel. It's like watching Top Gear UK (with the trio), or now the Grand Tour.... I don't watch it so I can see cars I can afford, I watch it so I can see cars that I will never be able to buy. With computer related stuff, I still enjoy watching content about the stuff I can afford though lol.
Here's a video idea, try your old hardware and compare your laps to the new and more expensive hardware, I'm sure that'll be interesting to watch. But yeah, more sim racing content would be nice!
it takes time getting used to those pedals. most people are slower with new gear at first but after a few weeks muscle memory starts to build and you get back to pace. especially braking can feel very weird when changing pedals. i know by experience, went from T3PA's to Asetek Forte and it was literally a pain the first few weeks
@@eetuli85i went from gamepad to the T300 just a few weeks ago after playing racegames for more then 16 years 💀 feels like i need to learn walking again lmao.
- Battery lasts long enough, mine has lasted 3 years already. Never turn the buttonbox off either. It turns itself off when not in use. - you can buy whatever wheel & buttonbox. also a corded one to connect directly to USB. So in case you want corded wheel, it's an option. You can connect simucube quick release to whatever rim you want. Also Simucube is about the best base you can have, so I don't think you want anything else at home...
@knightpilot6863 Not if you are running triple screens or VR. Some guys run triple 4K, but most go with 1440p @ 120hz. VR headsets are running 2 renders of the sim at once, each slightly different to give a stereoscopic effect. Even guys with 4090's and 7950x3d's usually have to turn some settings down to get VR running smoothly. Sims are also usually more CPU heavy, which can effect how well the GPU is fed.
@7:40 The clutch pedal is fully engaged but the actual pressure disc is disengaged from the clutch disc. Then you shift, release the pedal, and then the pressure disc clamps the clutch disc.
I have the same base, its absolutely phenomenal. They're are a lot of 3rd party wheel rim options that you can that are usb such as Cube Control or GSI
20 plus NM direct drive is the way to go. I have a Simagic Alpha Ultimate and it’s awesome having the power to hit those peaks without clipping to go along with the responsiveness that you get from a direct drive. You won’t regret it especially coming from a belt driven wheel. I recommend getting an inversion kit for the pedals as it feels so much more natural in my opinion.
@@blacknovella same. exactly my words 👍Plus i like headroom because it is a little bit more gentle on the hardware when you relatively rarely fully push it to the limits. I'm doing that with nearly everthing that's used often. From sim hardware to the chainsaw to our cars, nearly everything in our posession has healthy headroom.
@@DriftNick you may not but that doesn’t mean everyone runs their force feedback that low. If I’m running a formula car I like to feel like I’m driving a formula car. If I’m driving an old car with no power steering then I want it to feel authentic as well.
I made the same upgrade; Fanatec CSW 2.5 to a Simucube 2 Pro. Best decision I ever made. The SC2 wheelbases are the best on the market. Software is also really good. When dialed in, the feeling out of the different sim titles is incomparable. Also, the ecosystem is not locked down to just the simucube wheels. I use a GSI GXL Pro and a Simline Fiesta WRC for my two wheels, both are cabled to USB. It might sound tedious having a cable attached to the wheel but it is not. Admittedly, it helped me get a tiny bit faster. What I got out of it the most though is immersion. Hustling a GT3 car in Assetto Corsa Competizione with the ACTUAL amount of force the real car can produce is amazing. The level of detail of grip changes through a rally stage is unparalleled. My only other recommendation is this; if you lose the car and are going to go into a wall hard, just go ahead and take your hands off the wheel, especially in iRacing.
I love this. I have a Simucube SC1 (the previous generation of this wheel) and HPP PRX-SE pedals. My rig is my pride and joy. I always wanted to get into racing, but I can't afford it. I was going to join a 24 hours of Lemons team, one of the least expensive ways to race, but even that was going to cost around $3k/year for 3-4 races where I'd only get to drive for a couples hours each. With sim racing, it's buy once cry once, and I can race 24 hours a day, 7 days a week if I want. If I crash, just hit reset. No going to the hospital and paying for repairs. AND, I can drive cars and tracks that I'd never get near in real life. Sure, I'm aware it is not the same, but with VR and decent gear, you might be surprised at how much your brain can be tricked.
A 6 minute first impressions would be nice where the whole team plays using it, then a 1 month later where we get a review after Jay plays it at home for a month would be niiiice
This setup is epic and the base is one of the best in the market. They make force feedback pedals as well which are like thousand of euros per pedal crazy expensive. Also other reason for them not having connectors in the base is so that you can mount other brand wheels and even car wheels for drifting or real life truck wheels form sci and forever sharp and that quick release is one of the stiffest in the market. Also the base also has a sleep function which cuts the power to the motor if you are not using it for a while.
Its just a good thing with the battery. There some wheel developers who cooperate with simucube and these wheels are also plug and play because they have the simucube wireless option…so its not all bad.
I'm absolutely loving the fact that you're doing more on racing Sim stuff. I've got an Amazon cockpit made by volair that I had the mod a bit to hold g9 and 2 34" g5s And I've modded out my Logitech steering, pedals and shifter All I can so I'm looking for better equipment on a budget
Recently got the Moza r12 and it's awesome. I seriously considered getting an r16 or r21, but it turns out 12nm of torque is more than enough for me. I got their new KS wheel and considering it's their "budget" offering I was really impressed with the build quality and materials. The shifter paddles are very good, the analogue sticks are great, and it's built primarily from carbon fiber which you don't really expect from a cheaper wheel.
I've just received my R12 but I can't use yet as I am still waiting for the KS wheel to arrive which I ordered only 1 day after the the wheelbase yet I have to wait an extra 10 days for the wheel to get here... The seller didn't I ordered it last Friday and they didn't ship it on day despite advertising that they will... And to make it even worse for me they used a different transport company Who are telling me it will be 10 days... Should be 5 days. THANKS PAGNIANI IMPORTS... NICE ONE 👍
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What if you use a USB then convert 5V to 3V and maybe use a racing cable and connect it to the pins (or solder) insted of the battery? Maybe even 3D print something to hold it together, you do have 2 screws you can use.
Lot of great options these days. I bought the new Logitech DD Pro the day it launched, along with the pedals and a new TR80 chassis. Its been an absolutely fantastic product and i do love TrueForce in titles that support it. Just built my first PC last weekend and looking forward to the new Le Mans title coming out next year. Ive been in the sim racing world for about 16 years and its amazing how much fun you can have in your living room with a good sim
all you need with the Obutto Rev is a drill and the Simcube2 Pro and Heusinkveld Ultimate pedals fit , as for the battery , it basically turns off after a certain time when not in use .
The Simucube wireless wheels go to sleep after a few minutes of no use. Mine has been "on" for over a year now without changing a battery. To wake it up, I just pull both shift paddles simultaneously. The connection has been perfect, too.
Premium reflex sights on guns have 5 year battery life. They don't turn on unless the little gyroscope inside moves around. I bet this wheel uses the same tech. It will turn itself off without you ever knowing it.
If you dont like the battery powered wheel and want something with connection pins through the base with even more power get the asetek invicta wheelbase. It has 27nm, it is compatible with 90% of every wheel, and you don't need to change any batteries.
As a simucube user its is simply the top notch and what ever direct drive manufacturer enters the market has to be compared to. it delivers a wonderful feel to the car for long periods of time my longest continuous drive for a race is 4 hours straight and never got extremely hot.
Jay, I highly recommend trying out a GSI wheel. They are pricey but the support is hand down the best I’ve ever seen. The product quality is top notch as well. Can’t go back now.
It's a little disappointing about the little to no research done before making this video. An informed buyer would know that using a wireless wheel with the Simucube base is an OPTION and not a necessity. In my opinion, the wireless connection is superior to that of the likes of Moza and Fanatec where they use spring loaded pins to physically connect the wheel to the base due to the potential for damage and or wear and tear. Just ask how many people have broken the pins on the Fanatec hardware due to misaligning the quick release when installing a wheel for example. I've had mine for about 3 years and not had to replace the battery yet. I've mistakenly left it on many times sure, but the wheel does turn itself off after a period of no activity. This is another example of why Jay should do at least SOME research on a product before going live with a video and complaining of things that are literally not an issue. It just helps the viewers get a better overview of the actual product.
This batterygate has exploded out of proportions, where some wannabe sim aficionados seem to think the base is battery powered or something equally bizarre. But I think moza or simagic have actually quite clever way of providing the power through the shaft where it uses coils to transfer power wireless. But there's still the freely turning shaft that the wires providing the power on the base side need to take into account.
@@Simlife101 I don't think at least one of them has any physical contact, the power is provided through induction if I remember correctly. I.e. the same way wireless chargers do it.
This is the exact setup I have at home but i sold the pedals. The tunability and feel of the base is top tier and I have yet to find a base to beat it and I have tried them all. I cranked it up to the max to see what would happen in formula drifting and F1. I don't reccomend it lol. I sold my VNM pedals and went for Simagic p2000's with Sim3D feedback motors for the brake and throttle. Pretty much my forever setup unless something wild comes out. Next step is a motion rig :D You are going to love the Simucube base. :)
Have you ever done a video on the state of the Triple A gaming industry?...software drives the hardware Jay and I'm having a hard time justifying upgrading my platform, I mean for what?, to play Starfield or the other un-optimized games?....I think it's time for a rant video
Many Simucube 2 owners say the battery lasts 2-3 years and does cost just a few bucks. And i guess it is a push button and not some type of flip switch for more reasons than just the look. Maybe it does turn off after some time. Maybe when you turn the wheelbase off it sends a turn off signal to the wheel. Or maybe the wheel turns off when the wheelbase doesn't answer for some time.
I love all the sim racing content! Please keep it coming... I see the price barrier no different than all the 4090ti builds, give the people something to dream about.
I've always been a fan of 'arcade-y' racing games like Midnight Club, Need for Speed, and Forza Horizon. But every so often, after watching sim rig content, I want to try out a racing sim style game in one. I find the content enjoyable, and maybe some day I'll have the room and budget to set one up.
I'll have to befriend someone who has a rig already to try it out haha! I don't have room to set one up, or the spare budget to get it in the first place. For now I live vicariously through others' content about them
I started with a cheap terrible Logitech wheel (the "force feedback" was just a vibration lol). I moved up to a used Driving Force GT and I'd say that is a decent starting point. Now I'm running a G25 and I plan to get load cell pedals next. The brake pedal feeling right is more important from what I've heard. It helps that the load cell pedals are much less expensive than the cheapest direct drive base (that my wheel stand probably couldn't handle).
@@DasBreenHonestly, even after simracing regularly for 6 years, I still don't see a need for such a expensive rig. My 200€ Logitech G920 still giving me joy.
@@phenomanII I started with a csl dd, clubsport pedals, clubsport wheel. Wouldn't recommend anything that isn't DD these days. They're crap, and not worth the money. Especially when Moza has great entry level products. products that id actually recommend over my fanatec gear also.
I got about 2 yrs from the battery being left on and heavy use. Once i started experiencing the off missed shift, i changed it and all was fine again. You could always go for a cube control wheel and select the cable /plug in version if you dont like the bluetooth. 100% right about the ppower of the wheel, but with the simucube software its easy to select profiles. just create once with everything turned down for kids.
Made a great choice for the base. I would have chosen a gsi or grid engineering wheel. But still like the wheel you chose. I have an 80/20 rig (ASR3) from advanced sim racing, HE sprint pedals, moza R5 base and es wheel. I absolutely love it. Endless possibilities. Love the sim racing content. Hope to see more of it 👍
That's some serious kit, just remember to get your hands away from that steering wheel if you sim crash. Could quite easily rip your arms/hands to pieces.
'Could quite easily rip your arms/hands to pieces.' Why are so many people parroting that nonesense. If you have really bad luck you break your thumb. 20nm like mine can be taxing, especially if you're completely untrained in terms of fitness and/or a small woman or a kid. But when itz comes to damaging your body it stillis on the weak side. Like i said a broken bone or two if you are really unlucky. I got a few hits, one could say half on purpose half by accident while testing the strength of different plastics and designs for my 3d printed quick release (one time it even flew upwards and nearly hit the ceiling when i jumped the car into the trees on a rally stage). NONETHELESS, Joanna is absolutely right with the first sentence, instantly hands off the wheel should be must for most people! Always stay on the safe side till you have enough (6 years Simucube in my case) experience with it and till you can properly judge that force in front of you!
Hey Jay, awesome stuff! You're absolutely right - better gear definitely makes for a better driver! 😉 And speaking of cool pedals, we've got something for you to try - our brand new ActivePedals. They'll give you whatever feeling you're looking for without fiddling with springs or elastomers. You set them up all in the software. Oh, and don't sweat the battery - it'll keep you going for years! Give us a shout if you need any help!
@simucube I'm quite disappointed you clearly know he's given false information about this base with lack of knowledge or research and you don't correct him.... why More interested in pushing your active pedals. Sad
I am definitely curious about this, and what it is like after a good run. Perhaps the power and battery concerns you have already have the things you mentioned in place, although the manual should have mentioned something. I know, I know, who reads the manual, at least the one provided. It is better to hunt through the internet looking for the right digital version, satisfying the male need to earn all rewards, not have them handed to us. My absolute favourite quote from Jay so far is todays: "Stars and other flying disc things in the sky" . Love it. No pigeon-holing here. Keep up the updates, and thank you for this offering.
Man i could only dream of owning simcube, that is a dream set up one day. That is what the pros in nascar/f1 ect practice on practice on to stay in shape with muscle memory.
For the gloves, consider mountain biking gloves. They'll be lighter and more comfortable than actual driving gloves, as well as a good bit cheaper. You could get fr driving gloves if you want the immersion but if all you're looking for is to keep the Alcantara in good shape, a pair of hand up or tld or something would be more comfortable for sure
I've heard that one of the pitfalls of direct drive wheels is that they lack compatibility with a broad range of games. I'd love to go DD one day and move away from my Logitech G920 but would hate to spent that amount of money to then find that I can't race against my mates in some games.
Really? I wouldn’t know anything about sim racing. I only ever played, gran turismo, forza and project cars. I’m trying to get into sim racing but I want something to be compatible with both Xbox and PlayStation and even pc
i love the wheels , tuned ours up so strong it would flip your off the chair or would spin the table it was attached to.. that's GETTING INTO THE GAME ,
Yes I want to see the review ! Simucube is top of the line(cant believe u didnt read specs on wheel) they have pedals that r like 1800$ a piece , that r direct drive Moza stuff seems great for the price .
Yea I have a 67 chevelle that needs the wiring finished and possibly a new starter I just found out about. I have a g29 that I mount to my dining room table sometimes. 😂
As a prospective buyer I would like to see content involving the mid range Moza products and mid range cockpits. Most of the quality content out there focuses on either the very high end or entry level it seems.
High end with stupid battery and wifi connection crap lol We use quick connect in car and it's perfect with no wobble this dovetail crap with lock is way over engineered for no reason
@@YayDanMan it not simulation if you change the steering effort because you a weak nerd living in mom basement man In real life you put larger and stickier tire that make the steering effort higher after you can put a bigger steering to offset said increased effort but that can only do so much unless you want a bus steering wheel in your race car lol and if you got power steering all of this is pretty much irrelevant Ps I don't do sim racing a do real life racing with real car that you could only dream of driving kid have fun with your overpriced kid toy if you take the PC, rig and probably 3d glass you could have a real car for this price sure it cost nothing in brake,tire,fuel and you need a truck and trailer for the car but that's what separates the kid from the grown up
When the PC you're using it on is off the battery is also off the power on button is only to turn it on after restarting the PC it's just to make a wiles concession between the base and the wheel once connection is established the battery isn't underload.
I never thought when I first started watching you I would watch you review sim racing gear and I love it. Hopefully you will notice you find yourself more consistent, unfortunately only practice will make you faster
@Mystic2196 please for the love of God don't listen to this guy about sim racing gear he knows nothing You can use a wired wheel he choose wireless or was sent for free The battery is clearly for the buttons and power the wheel rim as it doesn't use pins or copper plates like the bases he'd tried The wheel rim will auto shut down Kids can use it in low torque mod so it's safe in this mode The 200kg on the loadcell when he says "this one is set too 200kg wow that's hard" that's not what it'd set too that what's size loadcell it has which is a 200kg not that the pedals are set too that This is farming views on something popular because his viewership is dropping.
Simucube bases are basically top of the line but they dont have creature comforts like power through the wheelbase. They just came out with the wheel you have not too long ago. So beside the one use have all the other wheel would connect directly to the pc via usb amd have a coiled cable like you mentioned.
For the price premium Simucube has over Fanatec DD1 and Quick Release hubs... I'd have expected a similar or better quick release & data connection. My Fanatec DD1 connects to both wheels with a slide-action quick release, no external pin (Formula V2.5 and custom Podium wheel) and power/data through the center connectors, no wires, no batteries and it powers a whole lot of lights and small OLED screens on the wheels.
Would love to upgrade my gear. Over the fanatec QR1. 1:39 Both yes and no. It might not make you quicker, but it WILL make you more consistent at the very least. 4:18 There is FULL force feedback pedals out now. Super expensive, but provide the best feedback. 14:30 there has been cases of fingers and wrists getting broken on sim racers. I know moza has inbuilt feature in their software that senses these incidents and cuts the torque to the wheel though. Not sure if simucube does.
The True high end pedals are the SimuCube Active pedals not the hydraulic ones you were talking about. the active pedals are like the Driect drive wheels where the pedal itself has force feedback and pulses with abs ect with the software but come with a hefty price tag per pedal. Perk of Direct drive wheel bases is it opens you up to a wide range of steering wheels to use with them from full replicas to tricked out f1 style wheels you can easily spend more on a wheel then the wheel base cost
Yep, Hydraulic pedals are a complete waste of time, they are essentially load cell pedals with an extra step (a hydraulic line that still passes to a load cell)
@@JallyTee I have a set of Hydraulic HPP 3 Pedal PRX pedals and love them but they have a ton of set up and are discontinued now, Mine are dialed in to what i wanted but one day i might upgrade them if anything breaks but not sure i would want to foot the bill for active pedals at 3k a pedal. the software side of using DiView gets a bit annoying with how finiky they are to get the right dead zones
@DarkStorm047 I'm the same on active pedals, I don't really like driving cars that have abs so I don't see the point in them for such a high cost. Maybe I would like to have them to feel loss of grip but I have attached transducers to my load cell pedals for this and it works quite nicely with sim hub. maybe in the future when sims actually support active pedals properly and the price drops down to acceptable levels
@@thebretch1 The pressure sensor is a load cell. The hydraulics still have to compress into some elastomers then a load cell. Just like the VNM's Jay has but minus the hydraulic part. You cannot compress liquid so the sensation is exactly the same with or without the hydraulic cylinder. You only feel the compression of the elastomers and pre load spring. But for cool factor hydraulics pedals get an extra point.
It's weird because some of the other high-end wheel base brands do have the springy cable for the wheels to use as power, maybe Simcube has an adaptor for that to replace the battery? I hope to see you streaming some of your sim racing, and also look forward to hearing your thoughts on the new wheel and peddals.
The springy cable is a usb cable (Data cable) The Simucube wheel is basically a controller so you can have it wired or wireless, the battery is there to power the wireless signal and usually lasts a few years. The Moza GT3/formula wheel Jay was showing has power and data in the quick release so has no battery.
what you called usb2 is durable and hard to pull out. when attaching to some thing that constantly vibrates and moves. i wonder if he would grip less about battery if it was rechargeable. with a battery that is replaceable.
You are gonna need a solid steel cage to mount the stuff to, that steering servo alone can brake you arms off, and twist aluminium extrusion frames up too... Also, try loading 400 pounds on to a leg press machine at a gym, and pressin it up on one leg, thats about the right amount of force for lets say an F1 car brake feel...
You're upgrading the driving sim in your home while I'm still trying to upgrade the driving sim in my car 😭
Lol
I thought the yellow tape was an airbag warning sticker.🤣
Oof
@@icecream1910 Thank you for joining us over in no-man's land. Kick your feet up and have a cold one.🍺
Car is cheaper
I’ve had this exact setup for ~18 months. The wheel does turn off after a while if not used, pull both paddles to reconnect. I leave mine on 24/7, haven’t replaced the battery and the wireless connection has always been rock solid.
I love seeing the accessible stuff that the everyman can afford, but I'll admit that I really like these in-depth looks at hardware I will never, in a million years, be able to justify purchasing. Great stuff!
Edit: 100% yes, please do a review! Is it actually worth the added, nearly doubled, expense?
Im not into racing, but i hope one day you'll be able to justify it :)
This is exactly how I feel. It's like watching Top Gear UK (with the trio), or now the Grand Tour.... I don't watch it so I can see cars I can afford, I watch it so I can see cars that I will never be able to buy. With computer related stuff, I still enjoy watching content about the stuff I can afford though lol.
i believe it sounds abit different than typical buds so dont take those granted, but yes as stated (and written) i have high hopes for these
1600 for a gaming sim wheel is nuts
Jay should set a good time on the rig and then go try to match it driving IRL.
Here's a video idea, try your old hardware and compare your laps to the new and more expensive hardware, I'm sure that'll be interesting to watch. But yeah, more sim racing content would be nice!
it takes time getting used to those pedals. most people are slower with new gear at first but after a few weeks muscle memory starts to build and you get back to pace. especially braking can feel very weird when changing pedals. i know by experience, went from T3PA's to Asetek Forte and it was literally a pain the first few weeks
@@eetuli85i went from gamepad to the T300 just a few weeks ago after playing racegames for more then 16 years 💀 feels like i need to learn walking again lmao.
- Battery lasts long enough, mine has lasted 3 years already. Never turn the buttonbox off either. It turns itself off when not in use.
- you can buy whatever wheel & buttonbox. also a corded one to connect directly to USB. So in case you want corded wheel, it's an option. You can connect simucube quick release to whatever rim you want.
Also Simucube is about the best base you can have, so I don't think you want anything else at home...
Those pedals look really well built!
Would love to see GPU tested for sim racing instead of only/mostly shooter games
Usually race sims are less demanding games on GPUs
@MrMOGHammer yes this is true if you are running single screen, but if you run triple screens, you would need a faster card
@@MrMOGHammer hahahahahahahahaha will (boosted media) would like a word with you.
@knightpilot6863 Not if you are running triple screens or VR. Some guys run triple 4K, but most go with 1440p @ 120hz. VR headsets are running 2 renders of the sim at once, each slightly different to give a stereoscopic effect. Even guys with 4090's and 7950x3d's usually have to turn some settings down to get VR running smoothly. Sims are also usually more CPU heavy, which can effect how well the GPU is fed.
@7:40 The clutch pedal is fully engaged but the actual pressure disc is disengaged from the clutch disc. Then you shift, release the pedal, and then the pressure disc clamps the clutch disc.
He explained it backwards for some odd reason.
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Absolutely!
I'd love to see how a follow-up video
I’d love it if you did a full Simucube equipment review. I’m a sucker for sim racing content.
I have the same base, its absolutely phenomenal. They're are a lot of 3rd party wheel rim options that you can that are usb such as Cube Control or GSI
20 plus NM direct drive is the way to go. I have a Simagic Alpha Ultimate and it’s awesome having the power to hit those peaks without clipping to go along with the responsiveness that you get from a direct drive. You won’t regret it especially coming from a belt driven wheel. I recommend getting an inversion kit for the pedals as it feels so much more natural in my opinion.
literally same man, i got a DD1 and i run at around 10-12NM but having all that headroom is needed for those peaks.
@@blacknovella same. exactly my words 👍Plus i like headroom because it is a little bit more gentle on the hardware when you relatively rarely fully push it to the limits. I'm doing that with nearly everthing that's used often. From sim hardware to the chainsaw to our cars, nearly everything in our posession has healthy headroom.
You are never going to see 20NM peaks or even close to that unless you are hitting something at which point you should take your hands off the wheel.
@@DriftNick you may not but that doesn’t mean everyone runs their force feedback that low. If I’m running a formula car I like to feel like I’m driving a formula car. If I’m driving an old car with no power steering then I want it to feel authentic as well.
we have the same thought process.. having headroom means ill never be stressing the hardware@@heikoscheuermann
I made the same upgrade; Fanatec CSW 2.5 to a Simucube 2 Pro. Best decision I ever made. The SC2 wheelbases are the best on the market. Software is also really good. When dialed in, the feeling out of the different sim titles is incomparable. Also, the ecosystem is not locked down to just the simucube wheels. I use a GSI GXL Pro and a Simline Fiesta WRC for my two wheels, both are cabled to USB. It might sound tedious having a cable attached to the wheel but it is not.
Admittedly, it helped me get a tiny bit faster. What I got out of it the most though is immersion. Hustling a GT3 car in Assetto Corsa Competizione with the ACTUAL amount of force the real car can produce is amazing. The level of detail of grip changes through a rally stage is unparalleled.
My only other recommendation is this; if you lose the car and are going to go into a wall hard, just go ahead and take your hands off the wheel, especially in iRacing.
I love this. I have a Simucube SC1 (the previous generation of this wheel) and HPP PRX-SE pedals. My rig is my pride and joy. I always wanted to get into racing, but I can't afford it. I was going to join a 24 hours of Lemons team, one of the least expensive ways to race, but even that was going to cost around $3k/year for 3-4 races where I'd only get to drive for a couples hours each. With sim racing, it's buy once cry once, and I can race 24 hours a day, 7 days a week if I want. If I crash, just hit reset. No going to the hospital and paying for repairs. AND, I can drive cars and tracks that I'd never get near in real life. Sure, I'm aware it is not the same, but with VR and decent gear, you might be surprised at how much your brain can be tricked.
in regards to the wifi battary, my wheels over 2 years old on the same battary
Man.. this really takes me back. Our pedal design was really similar, and these look incredibly well built. I love this type of stuff!
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Whether you're in front of the pedals, or behind the pedals, the clutch is still never in the middle, Jay!
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A 6 minute first impressions would be nice where the whole team plays using it, then a 1 month later where we get a review after Jay plays it at home for a month would be niiiice
This setup is epic and the base is one of the best in the market. They make force feedback pedals as well which are like thousand of euros per pedal crazy expensive. Also other reason for them not having connectors in the base is so that you can mount other brand wheels and even car wheels for drifting or real life truck wheels form sci and forever sharp and that quick release is one of the stiffest in the market. Also the base also has a sleep function which cuts the power to the motor if you are not using it for a while.
I've got the same pedals and came from the same V3s you have. You're going to love the upgrade on them and that base.
Its just a good thing with the battery. There some wheel developers who cooperate with simucube and these wheels are also plug and play because they have the simucube wireless option…so its not all bad.
I'm absolutely loving the fact that you're doing more on racing Sim stuff. I've got an Amazon cockpit made by volair that I had the mod a bit to hold g9 and 2 34" g5s And I've modded out my Logitech steering, pedals and shifter All I can so I'm looking for better equipment on a budget
Recently got the Moza r12 and it's awesome. I seriously considered getting an r16 or r21, but it turns out 12nm of torque is more than enough for me. I got their new KS wheel and considering it's their "budget" offering I was really impressed with the build quality and materials. The shifter paddles are very good, the analogue sticks are great, and it's built primarily from carbon fiber which you don't really expect from a cheaper wheel.
I've just received my R12 but I can't use yet as I am still waiting for the KS wheel to arrive which I ordered only 1 day after the the wheelbase yet I have to wait an extra 10 days for the wheel to get here... The seller didn't I ordered it last Friday and they didn't ship it on day despite advertising that they will... And to make it even worse for me they used a different transport company Who are telling me it will be 10 days... Should be 5 days.
THANKS PAGNIANI IMPORTS... NICE ONE 👍
What if you use a USB then convert 5V to 3V and maybe use a racing cable and connect it to the pins (or solder) insted of the battery? Maybe even 3D print something to hold it together, you do have 2 screws you can use.
Or he could have done some research and bought one of 100s of different wheels which don't use a battery
HOW HAVE WE MADE IT MORE THAN 10 YEARS WITHOUT "I DEGRESS" MERCH???
Lot of great options these days. I bought the new Logitech DD Pro the day it launched, along with the pedals and a new TR80 chassis. Its been an absolutely fantastic product and i do love TrueForce in titles that support it. Just built my first PC last weekend and looking forward to the new Le Mans title coming out next year. Ive been in the sim racing world for about 16 years and its amazing how much fun you can have in your living room with a good sim
I'll be honest, I'd love to see you do a full video of the three of you comparing and contrasting your take on both the old and new setup!
Those other guys are terrible. Data wouldn’t be useful.
all you need with the Obutto Rev is a drill and the Simcube2 Pro and Heusinkveld Ultimate pedals fit , as for the battery , it basically turns off after a certain time when not in use .
The Simucube wireless wheels go to sleep after a few minutes of no use. Mine has been "on" for over a year now without changing a battery. To wake it up, I just pull both shift paddles simultaneously. The connection has been perfect, too.
Premium reflex sights on guns have 5 year battery life. They don't turn on unless the little gyroscope inside moves around. I bet this wheel uses the same tech. It will turn itself off without you ever knowing it.
If you dont like the battery powered wheel and want something with connection pins through the base with even more power get the asetek invicta wheelbase. It has 27nm, it is compatible with 90% of every wheel, and you don't need to change any batteries.
As a simucube user its is simply the top notch and what ever direct drive manufacturer enters the market has to be compared to. it delivers a wonderful feel to the car for long periods of time my longest continuous drive for a race is 4 hours straight and never got extremely hot.
Jay, I highly recommend trying out a GSI wheel. They are pricey but the support is hand down the best I’ve ever seen. The product quality is top notch as well. Can’t go back now.
Yep. I have a Hyper P1 and am ruined from buying any other brands toy wheel from now on 😂
I love when big channels get a bit into sim racing
It's a little disappointing about the little to no research done before making this video. An informed buyer would know that using a wireless wheel with the Simucube base is an OPTION and not a necessity. In my opinion, the wireless connection is superior to that of the likes of Moza and Fanatec where they use spring loaded pins to physically connect the wheel to the base due to the potential for damage and or wear and tear. Just ask how many people have broken the pins on the Fanatec hardware due to misaligning the quick release when installing a wheel for example. I've had mine for about 3 years and not had to replace the battery yet. I've mistakenly left it on many times sure, but the wheel does turn itself off after a period of no activity. This is another example of why Jay should do at least SOME research on a product before going live with a video and complaining of things that are literally not an issue. It just helps the viewers get a better overview of the actual product.
This batterygate has exploded out of proportions, where some wannabe sim aficionados seem to think the base is battery powered or something equally bizarre.
But I think moza or simagic have actually quite clever way of providing the power through the shaft where it uses coils to transfer power wireless. But there's still the freely turning shaft that the wires providing the power on the base side need to take into account.
@@Nrdeuntil that copper pads start to wear and you lose connection which is happening
@@Simlife101 I don't think at least one of them has any physical contact, the power is provided through induction if I remember correctly. I.e. the same way wireless chargers do it.
This is the exact setup I have at home but i sold the pedals. The tunability and feel of the base is top tier and I have yet to find a base to beat it and I have tried them all. I cranked it up to the max to see what would happen in formula drifting and F1. I don't reccomend it lol. I sold my VNM pedals and went for Simagic p2000's with Sim3D feedback motors for the brake and throttle. Pretty much my forever setup unless something wild comes out. Next step is a motion rig :D You are going to love the Simucube base. :)
You mean you didn't want to spend $2k per pedal for the Simucube FFB pedals? :D
@@ZoneXV bought them before those were released. They are on my radar if they come down in price a little
Loving the sim gear videos, would be interesting to see how it compares to the moza. Also would be great to see you guys do a flight sim set up too
SC2 hardware is great. You gonna enjoy it
Yes, I want to see it. And as someone who does not have room for a sim racing set up, I like vicariously through you and OC Racing.
Grats on the weightloss Jay. I'm also trying to de-chonk currently too :)
I just learned about his journey. Good luck 💪🙏
Thanks for buying stuff and showing it off. Very entertaining.
You always know it’s gonna be a good day when jay uploads!
Have you ever done a video on the state of the Triple A gaming industry?...software drives the hardware Jay and I'm having a hard time justifying upgrading my platform, I mean for what?, to play Starfield or the other un-optimized games?....I think it's time for a rant video
Agreed
I’ve had the SC2 Pro for almost 3 years. Best wheel base I’ve ever had. Previously had a Fanatec DD2, Fanatec CSW V2 and Thrustmaster T500.
Sim Lab Xero-play quick release system is better than using the pin...Microcenter carries it.
Many Simucube 2 owners say the battery lasts 2-3 years and does cost just a few bucks.
And i guess it is a push button and not some type of flip switch for more reasons than just the look. Maybe it does turn off after some time. Maybe when you turn the wheelbase off it sends a turn off signal to the wheel. Or maybe the wheel turns off when the wheelbase doesn't answer for some time.
I love all the sim racing content! Please keep it coming... I see the price barrier no different than all the 4090ti builds, give the people something to dream about.
Amazing pick man i have been running my simucube 2 pro for 3 years now, best money i ever spent
I've always been a fan of 'arcade-y' racing games like Midnight Club, Need for Speed, and Forza Horizon. But every so often, after watching sim rig content, I want to try out a racing sim style game in one. I find the content enjoyable, and maybe some day I'll have the room and budget to set one up.
Go for it. It's hard, but once you get the hang of it you'll have a blast.
I'll have to befriend someone who has a rig already to try it out haha! I don't have room to set one up, or the spare budget to get it in the first place. For now I live vicariously through others' content about them
I started with a cheap terrible Logitech wheel (the "force feedback" was just a vibration lol). I moved up to a used Driving Force GT and I'd say that is a decent starting point.
Now I'm running a G25 and I plan to get load cell pedals next. The brake pedal feeling right is more important from what I've heard.
It helps that the load cell pedals are much less expensive than the cheapest direct drive base (that my wheel stand probably couldn't handle).
@@DasBreenHonestly, even after simracing regularly for 6 years, I still don't see a need for such a expensive rig. My 200€ Logitech G920 still giving me joy.
@@phenomanII I started with a csl dd, clubsport pedals, clubsport wheel. Wouldn't recommend anything that isn't DD these days. They're crap, and not worth the money. Especially when Moza has great entry level products. products that id actually recommend over my fanatec gear also.
I got about 2 yrs from the battery being left on and heavy use. Once i started experiencing the off missed shift, i changed it and all was fine again. You could always go for a cube control wheel and select the cable /plug in version if you dont like the bluetooth. 100% right about the ppower of the wheel, but with the simucube software its easy to select profiles. just create once with everything turned down for kids.
Made a great choice for the base. I would have chosen a gsi or grid engineering wheel. But still like the wheel you chose. I have an 80/20 rig (ASR3) from advanced sim racing, HE sprint pedals, moza R5 base and es wheel. I absolutely love it. Endless possibilities. Love the sim racing content. Hope to see more of it 👍
@RSAGarage he didnt pick anything it was sent and clearly he did ZERO research. I own this base and he's wrong about everything
Simucube are awesome. Had my Simucube 2 Pro for a while now and it’s amazing. Their software is great too.
That's some serious kit, just remember to get your hands away from that steering wheel if you sim crash. Could quite easily rip your arms/hands to pieces.
If you properly configure it, you don’t have to, you can disable those collision forces
@@millienodepends on the sim
'Could quite easily rip your arms/hands to pieces.'
Why are so many people parroting that nonesense. If you have really bad luck you break your thumb.
20nm like mine can be taxing, especially if you're completely untrained in terms of fitness and/or a small woman or a kid. But when itz comes to damaging your body it stillis on the weak side. Like i said a broken bone or two if you are really unlucky. I got a few hits, one could say half on purpose half by accident while testing the strength of different plastics and designs for my 3d printed quick release (one time it even flew upwards and nearly hit the ceiling when i jumped the car into the trees on a rally stage).
NONETHELESS, Joanna is absolutely right with the first sentence, instantly hands off the wheel should be must for most people! Always stay on the safe side till you have enough (6 years Simucube in my case) experience with it and till you can properly judge that force in front of you!
@@heikoscheuermann I was only repeating what another simracer said regardng being careful with this gear.
@@JoannaHammond Being a parrot isn't usually a good idea.
I'm stoked that youtube decided to put you back in my feed, I forgot what I was missing! I haven't watched much since I assembled my rig a year ago.
There we go! That's some nice high end hardware.
Do a review where you compare the two different systems.?!!❤
Hey Jay, awesome stuff! You're absolutely right - better gear definitely makes for a better driver! 😉
And speaking of cool pedals, we've got something for you to try - our brand new ActivePedals. They'll give you whatever feeling you're looking for without fiddling with springs or elastomers. You set them up all in the software.
Oh, and don't sweat the battery - it'll keep you going for years!
Give us a shout if you need any help!
Active pedals are a game changer! for the wallet too
@simucube I'm quite disappointed you clearly know he's given false information about this base with lack of knowledge or research and you don't correct him.... why
More interested in pushing your active pedals. Sad
Clutch pedal when pushed in disengages the clutch plates relieving pressure or neutral position
I am definitely curious about this, and what it is like after a good run. Perhaps the power and battery concerns you have already have the things you mentioned in place, although the manual should have mentioned something. I know, I know, who reads the manual, at least the one provided. It is better to hunt through the internet looking for the right digital version, satisfying the male need to earn all rewards, not have them handed to us. My absolute favourite quote from Jay so far is todays: "Stars and other flying disc things in the sky" . Love it. No pigeon-holing here. Keep up the updates, and thank you for this offering.
But in all seriousness, i saw Simucube and knew… i have the sport wheelbase and love it
Man i could only dream of owning simcube, that is a dream set up one day. That is what the pros in nascar/f1 ect practice on practice on to stay in shape with muscle memory.
They use that usb because it stays connected way better, my new fanatec is usb c and it comes out sometimes... which is fun.
For the gloves, consider mountain biking gloves. They'll be lighter and more comfortable than actual driving gloves, as well as a good bit cheaper. You could get fr driving gloves if you want the immersion but if all you're looking for is to keep the Alcantara in good shape, a pair of hand up or tld or something would be more comfortable for sure
Yes, please do a review and the process of starting to build one myself.
I've heard that one of the pitfalls of direct drive wheels is that they lack compatibility with a broad range of games. I'd love to go DD one day and move away from my Logitech G920 but would hate to spent that amount of money to then find that I can't race against my mates in some games.
Really? I wouldn’t know anything about sim racing. I only ever played, gran turismo, forza and project cars. I’m trying to get into sim racing but I want something to be compatible with both Xbox and PlayStation and even pc
i love the wheels , tuned ours up so strong it would flip your off the chair or would spin the table it was attached to.. that's GETTING INTO THE GAME ,
Yes I want to see the review ! Simucube is top of the line(cant believe u didnt read specs on wheel) they have pedals that r like 1800$ a piece , that r direct drive Moza stuff seems great for the price .
SIM RACING! YUS!
Thanks guys!
Yea I have a 67 chevelle that needs the wiring finished and possibly a new starter I just found out about. I have a g29 that I mount to my dining room table sometimes. 😂
As a prospective buyer I would like to see content involving the mid range Moza products and mid range cockpits. Most of the quality content out there focuses on either the very high end or entry level it seems.
just imagine showing this to people in the 80s when arcade racing machines were popular.
I got fanatec DD stuff and i am jealous of your set up now!! please do more sim racing stuff!
Well thats just about the most recommended high end DD period and some recently well-reviewed pedals, fairly smart choices from the TR rep
High end with stupid battery and wifi connection crap lol
We use quick connect in car and it's perfect with no wobble this dovetail crap with lock is way over engineered for no reason
@legros731 well that tells me you know nothing about sim racing at this level of hardware
@@YayDanMan it not simulation if you change the steering effort because you a weak nerd living in mom basement man
In real life you put larger and stickier tire that make the steering effort higher after you can put a bigger steering to offset said increased effort but that can only do so much unless you want a bus steering wheel in your race car lol and if you got power steering all of this is pretty much irrelevant
Ps I don't do sim racing a do real life racing with real car that you could only dream of driving kid have fun with your overpriced kid toy if you take the PC, rig and probably 3d glass you could have a real car for this price sure it cost nothing in brake,tire,fuel and you need a truck and trailer for the car but that's what separates the kid from the grown up
@@legros731🤓
When the PC you're using it on is off the battery is also off the power on button is only to turn it on after restarting the PC it's just to make a wiles concession between the base and the wheel once connection is established the battery isn't underload.
Nice Jay! Yes give us a review of your new gear. Would love to hear what you think. Looking forward to it.
I never thought when I first started watching you I would watch you review sim racing gear and I love it. Hopefully you will notice you find yourself more consistent, unfortunately only practice will make you faster
@Mystic2196 please for the love of God don't listen to this guy about sim racing gear he knows nothing
You can use a wired wheel he choose wireless or was sent for free
The battery is clearly for the buttons and power the wheel rim as it doesn't use pins or copper plates like the bases he'd tried
The wheel rim will auto shut down
Kids can use it in low torque mod so it's safe in this mode
The 200kg on the loadcell when he says "this one is set too 200kg wow that's hard" that's not what it'd set too that what's size loadcell it has which is a 200kg not that the pedals are set too that
This is farming views on something popular because his viewership is dropping.
Simucube bases are basically top of the line but they dont have creature comforts like power through the wheelbase. They just came out with the wheel you have not too long ago. So beside the one use have all the other wheel would connect directly to the pc via usb amd have a coiled cable like you mentioned.
Simucube is 1 of the top G brands for sim racing. really good stuff.
Yes please! Show us mounting it and then some driving :)
For the price premium Simucube has over Fanatec DD1 and Quick Release hubs... I'd have expected a similar or better quick release & data connection.
My Fanatec DD1 connects to both wheels with a slide-action quick release, no external pin (Formula V2.5 and custom Podium wheel) and power/data through the center connectors, no wires, no batteries and it powers a whole lot of lights and small OLED screens on the wheels.
Those power plugs on the pedals are giving me flashbacks to my, old Tagan piperock PSU's 😂
Jay, with sim kit in mind can you ever review some high end flight gear from Virpil or VKB?
Love the fact you brought up Garrett's reminder stickers aka cleetus.
Would love to upgrade my gear. Over the fanatec QR1. 1:39 Both yes and no. It might not make you quicker, but it WILL make you more consistent at the very least. 4:18 There is FULL force feedback pedals out now. Super expensive, but provide the best feedback. 14:30 there has been cases of fingers and wrists getting broken on sim racers. I know moza has inbuilt feature in their software that senses these incidents and cuts the torque to the wheel though. Not sure if simucube does.
He's not sure of anything or states he is and moans but he's wrong.
It has low torque mode
My life and all entertainment is sim stuff now. More please.
I love to see a video of you putting your new Sim racing rig together at home and a comparison of both Mosa and the brand in this video too.
Hi Jay, we are still waiting for an update of this video, please give us an overview of this base compared to moza. Thanks in advance
The base does power down if not touched after a few minutes.
DIY Sim Racing Wheel build next 🤩 OpenFFBoard for the win.
The True high end pedals are the SimuCube Active pedals not the hydraulic ones you were talking about. the active pedals are like the Driect drive wheels where the pedal itself has force feedback and pulses with abs ect with the software but come with a hefty price tag per pedal. Perk of Direct drive wheel bases is it opens you up to a wide range of steering wheels to use with them from full replicas to tricked out f1 style wheels you can easily spend more on a wheel then the wheel base cost
Yep, Hydraulic pedals are a complete waste of time, they are essentially load cell pedals with an extra step (a hydraulic line that still passes to a load cell)
@@JallyTee I have a set of Hydraulic HPP 3 Pedal PRX pedals and love them but they have a ton of set up and are discontinued now, Mine are dialed in to what i wanted but one day i might upgrade them if anything breaks but not sure i would want to foot the bill for active pedals at 3k a pedal. the software side of using DiView gets a bit annoying with how finiky they are to get the right dead zones
@DarkStorm047 I'm the same on active pedals, I don't really like driving cars that have abs so I don't see the point in them for such a high cost. Maybe I would like to have them to feel loss of grip but I have attached transducers to my load cell pedals for this and it works quite nicely with sim hub. maybe in the future when sims actually support active pedals properly and the price drops down to acceptable levels
@JaredPaul01 not all of them. Some use a pressure sensor for the oil. those are worth it. Meca Sim cup evos even use a Willwood cylinder
@@thebretch1 The pressure sensor is a load cell. The hydraulics still have to compress into some elastomers then a load cell. Just like the VNM's Jay has but minus the hydraulic part. You cannot compress liquid so the sensation is exactly the same with or without the hydraulic cylinder. You only feel the compression of the elastomers and pre load spring. But for cool factor hydraulics pedals get an extra point.
i use a simcore wireless wheel on my sc pro 2 and the battery will last about a year with heavy use if you turn it off when ur done 👌
sim-U-cube. and welcome to the big leagues.. i have a DD1 and anything i would upgrade to was a simucube ultimate.. its amazing stuff.
It's weird because some of the other high-end wheel base brands do have the springy cable for the wheels to use as power, maybe Simcube has an adaptor for that to replace the battery?
I hope to see you streaming some of your sim racing, and also look forward to hearing your thoughts on the new wheel and peddals.
The springy cable is a usb cable (Data cable) The Simucube wheel is basically a controller so you can have it wired or wireless, the battery is there to power the wireless signal and usually lasts a few years. The Moza GT3/formula wheel Jay was showing has power and data in the quick release so has no battery.
Wait, you're a sim racer? 😁
Have you tested the VNM pedals?
Dave, how new u are in here? :D
@@yonson_racing no, they look pretty good 👍
We need to get this man in PESC All Stars stat
With no research and giving false information due to lake of knowledge 😅 he's needs to do better with his followering imo.
Yesssss more sim rig stuff!
I have the room in my computer room for a sim racing setup now, so would definitely be nice to see more of.
what you called usb2 is durable and hard to pull out. when attaching to some thing that constantly vibrates and moves. i wonder if he would grip less about battery if it was rechargeable. with a battery that is replaceable.
We want to see the new setup when it's done!
You are gonna need a solid steel cage to mount the stuff to, that steering servo alone can brake you arms off, and twist aluminium extrusion frames up too... Also, try loading 400 pounds on to a leg press machine at a gym, and pressin it up on one leg, thats about the right amount of force for lets say an F1 car brake feel...
I ended up with a full Moza setup simucube is kinda a step up sort of Moza has there own super high-end goodies