I literally just got this tower for my niece as a graduation build. Its amazing. Up to date ports, great ventilation, separate compartment for PSU /HDDs, two bottom connections for SSDs, back panel is very well thought of and hides the clutter of cables being seen. 10/10! But... best thing I added to this build is two adhesive magnets on the two top front corners of the glass for easy open/close access.
"I totally agree with LianLi's decision not to include a secondary dust filter behind the metal mesh in the front, because...it would make Steve at Gamers Nexus very mad."
@@maggi98mw If you don't want the dust filter you could always remove it. Gamers Nexus has weird case reviews. They love their phanteks case without a dust filter so much, but according to their own numbers, the bequiet 500dx with dust filter removed is better than the phanteks...so their conclusions do not make a lot of sense. Now manufacturers are on the no-dust-filter hype train, simply because IF they included a dust filter then Gamers Nexus would give their case a poor review, even if their case actually does better with the dust filter removed. So now we're all stuck cleaning the inside of the case, because the "ultra fine mesh" does not in fact stop dust.
@@julesjacobs1 I agree with you here. For initial testing, you will get better temperature metrics with little or no filter but in for the actual user, the temperature difference vs. the dust being inside the case is a valid point. I dont want to spend time cleaning my fans and components in my case constantly. Also, having dust clog my GPU components and fans, where dust works its way into the moving part crevices is a no go for me. 3 degree difference for no dust? Clear choice for me.
The performance variant has a fan speed controller on the io on the top, and the rgb has an rgb controller instead. Thought that was the most important difference between the two so i just wanted to add that here.
@@daanyalhassan2171 Depends what you do with the fans. The performance has two 140mm in the front and one 120mm fan in the back, so strictly speaking it will be a little better than the rgb which has three 120mm fans in the front. You can get another fan, a radiator or just put one fan in the back for pretty much the same airflow, but all in all I think both have such exellent airflow, that you should just worry about whether you want an rgb or a fan controller.
"Having the power supply all the way in its closest position to the power supply leaves very little room for the power supply cables" I heard that I it made me rethink my whole life hahaha
Another really nice case. I love how the various brands are finally waking up to what we actually want. I could see myself getting this or the P500A if I make myself a secondary rig.
@@HardwareCanucks Just build your daily driver in the case, and see what it is like after 4 weeks maybe? vs the same time in a closed and filtered case? It would take some time and wouldn't give perfect results but could be interesting.
You guys covering this damn case has raised the price almost $20. I knew I should've gotten this before other components. This directly correlated with these reviews
You can actually remove the hard drive bay without forcing it out, you can unscrew from the bottom of case if you line it up with holes underneath case you can get to the screws on bottom of the caddy/bay.
I’ve been using this case for a while now with the two bottom fans as well. I absolutely love this thing. I don’t think I’ll be changing cases for a long time! (I’m using the USB-C as well as the hot swap thingy)
Late to the party but you can remove the hard drive cage from the case for better airflow and space! Just look up a video on removing the cage and you’ll find it it’s a pretty simple process and totally worth imo
This is a great tech channel with what I consider an excellent review vid for this case :) Now, I can say this with all certainty as I myself have built in 4 of the Lancool II model cases (2 in the original & 2 in the Mesh ones) and have also found that the PSU shroud fan placement will raise the CPU temps a few degrees but, that's mostly when using an air CPU cooler so, if you're going to use an AIO then I highly suggest you take advantage of at least one of the PSU shroud's vents to keep those GPU temps in check...also if you're using an M.2 NVMe or a SATA SSD as your sole storage devices then, by all means remove the HDD cage and place at least one front case fan at the lowest location, this will help increase that PSU shroud's GPU cooling ability by feeding fresh cool air from the bottom front straight to the shroud's underside intake and thus straight up to your GPU (BTW, if you want to see some Lian Li Lancool II cooling/fan placement options then, please see my setup at my YT channel). Now, my newest Lancool II MESH build has an R7 5800X, cooled by a front mounted 360 AIO (6Xfan push & pull config), on the B550 Tomahawk mobo, a Gen4 1tb Samsung 980 Pro for boot drive/main storage, with a FTW3 Ultra RTX 3080 Ti GPU, 2Xfans on PSU shroud plus back and top exhaust fans and it's all powered by a Corsair RM850x PSU (FYI, waiting on custom PCIe power cables since the FTW3 needs three 8pins but, I'll be sure to post a final build vid on my channel once it's done).
I just ordered the mesh 2 and a 360 rad and am going to hope it doesn't need to put the radiator inlets at the top. Would like to see that video when you get it done.
@@Mobil3targ3t Ok, if you're going to use a 360mm rad in a Lancool II case then, your only placement choice is in the front of the case...only 240mm rads and possibly if you were to sandwich the two 140mm fans between the case's top and a 280mm rad you then may be able to clear motherboard VRM heatsinks and higher ram sticks.
First time I saw one of your videos, and subscribed. Your delivery is excellent, content solid. Have not kept up with pc technology but will likely have to replace my pc in a year or two. Seems like a good time to get current and you will be a big help.
Man I always dig your videos. They are clear, to the point, great visuals, Nothing outrageous, small bits of dry humor. Some other channels go super in depth and that's fine. But you keep it "real" addressing the more everyday things people may encounter. Keep it up! I only ask for more videos! :D
I've combined it with nh d15 cpu cooler. I wouldn't have thought how massive and nice it looks compared to my old office computer case. Under load CPU temperatures went from 65° to 49°C and GPU temps from 70° to 65°C with the low fan profile. So far it's pretty amazing.
Thinking of doing the same very soon. If you don't mind me asking how much clearance you had left on cooler height? Basically how close was the top of the cooler to the glass?
I love the way the Black Mesh II RGB looks with the white lights, it just beautiful. But i also like that the Mesh II Performance has the Fan Speed options and overall comes with the bigger fans. Is the Fan Speed Option really that important and better? or is the RGB as good without it?
The flip-able cable cover is a very tight fix for cable management even with regular ATX boards. Gets in the way especially if you want to install something like a graphic card anti-sag bracket. I flipped it around to get some extra clearance with an Asrock Z690 PG Riptide. The raised platform is also on the thin side, and some connectors would definitely interfere, depending on what you're plugging into your mobo. With the cable cover as it installed out of the box (i.e. ATX config), I would have been hard pressed to connect have all 6 main sata ports hooked. Also, before putting in the motherboard, verify all the appropriate standoffs are in place. Mine was 'missing' one. Either the mobo had a non-standard layout or they just forgot (the standoff location doesn't include the mark for ATX motherboards). It is a really good case otherwise, as these are only very small gripes on my part.
This Is a fantastic case. Using the bottom fan is worth it, because the GPU fans are always the loudest parts of the system. With any aftermarket air cooler you will have good temps on the cpu anyway, which is definitely more rugged than the GPU
After removing the hard drive rack, the case is just “begging” to have a 3rd intake fan on the bottom. You can move the two 140’s up and install a 120mm easily. If you flip the front fan bracket around, you can fit three 140’s - if you don’t mind leaving the bottom 2 screws out (just a few mm’s short!). But small extender brackets can be attached to secure the bottom screws. I’m also going to install two 120 fans onto the psu shroud to force more air into the GPU. Gonna be sweeet
That's what I did. was able to barely fit a 120mm after shifting the two 140mms up a bit. Was hoping would be able to fit 3x140mm but only the newer lancool iii seems to be able to do it. How did the 120 fax on the psu shroud perform? I've seen tests where it makes the GPU cooler but makes the CPU hotter as the hot air from the GPU is being pushed towards the CPU.
Compelling case! I wonder if using an AIO cooler on the CPU would help mitigate some of that heat increase from having fans installed on the top? I don't imagine it would be a huge difference, but I assume the heat comes from running already hot air through the CPU's air-cooler. Great reviews as always, I'll definitely keep this one on my radar for my next build.
Hi, do you want to mount an aio on top, cooling the processor ? I was thinking of an Arctic AC Liquid freezer II 240 mounted on the top of the case as an exhaust, this way you have 2 x 140mm intake in the front and 3 x 120mm enhaust in the back and top. This is my go to case too, I already ordered it and can't wait for it to arrive.
Dimitri, just to check.. you mentioned that the Hard Disk Cage is not removable, is it the same design as the original Lancool II. if it is, you should be able to remove it. I have removed mine on the original Lancool II. look carefully and you will know how to remove it.. there are for screw at the bottom of the cage. remove the PSU dust filter and you will be able to reach the screws at the bottom of the hdd cage.
The one thing I give the P400TS with a mesh panel from a P400RGB over this is,...well someone knocked mine off a table while running and the only thing that went wrong, I had to stick the magnetic LED stip inside back where I had it. Not a blue screen, no broken glass, no dents. It was about a 5-foot drop and the case was fully loaded, it hit a solid floor and bounced a few inches. That Lian Li case would have the glass panels swing open and shatter on impact. I mean may not be a concern for others, but if it becomes one, a study case is good.
imagine building a new case right now and having this case and the p500a to choose from... we are spoiled now! this makes my first premium case, the s340 from nzxt look obsolete
Feels like all the companies went in on sleek looks but too many users just didn’t get the performance so they are shifting. It’s a nice change. Am one of those customers tbh - knew what I was buying but this looks like a good replacement!
There's a lot of good cases, this year! Someone finally learned how to make good cases. 👍 2:43 Don't you mean it backwards? The holes need to be small, in able to catch dust, hair, etc. Yeah, I had to get rid of the drive cage on mine as well. The PSU cables are thick and didn't have enough space for them. So I put the HDD directly on the case... I hate fixed systems, where you can't move stuff. :(
It's $89.00 there!? Here the price is twice! And Lancool is made in Taiwan and I live in Philippines and Taiwan is literally just north of us. I'm not really that good into pricing but I believe it should be the same price here.
@@jonathangaylindo69gachagil18 Everybody knows that but not everybody wants a big case. Once you're not ignorant enough, you'll realize each user has varying preferences
The white rgb case that was the only one that could ship to greece and I comes with 3 120mm fans at the front. Very interesting and informative vid well done and also well done to lian li.😊
It's kinda funny how the mesh material has been difficult for case manufacturers to pin down, but it's basically the same as the speaker grille mesh used in the 90's.
Just a little bit of a heads up/info. The phillips screwdriver you were using was definitely too big for those screws, that's probably why you were almost stripping :) thanks for the awesome video as always.
So basically you should block off the shroud ventilation in case you are not using any shroud fans, particularly if you are running a more moderate fan profile. Reasoning seems to be that you aid the front-to-back airflow direction.
I have this case with a "be quite" cooler running I9-12900K and its stays super cool. Definitely enjoying the case, I totally dont care about RGB its better without it. If the monitors are off you cant even tell te computer is on.
If there is no revision of this case in 2 more years, this will definitely be the housing for my next PC build. My Meshify C made me a ventilation snob!
@@RGInquisitor Oh man, choosing a case has been like trying to decide what to eat for dinner! lol... Meshify II is a great case too, I'd probably choose that over the Lancool II mesh if they were closer in price. The egg site is about to have a big sale on Monday, I'll see if either of those(or any other decent cases) goes on sale, otherwise I'll just fork over a bill for the Lancool II mesh performance. Honestly anything made in recent years is a big upgrade to my old CoolerMaster from
@@somethingtrulyhorrifying Well I'm gonna root for you finding your next case for a great price! I used to feel like my Meshify II was too big of a case, since its on the larger side for a mid-tower. However, after seeing how large new GPUs can get, and being able to fit a 360mm rad with a whole bunch of 140mm fans up front and at the bottom, I'm no longer feeling that way. Funny thing is, a friend of mine built a PC with similar specs to mine (RTX 3080, R9 3900X) but instead went SFF with the NZXT H1. Mine takes up whole lot more space, but is super quiet and cool. His looks nicer and is a lot more compact, but sounds like a jet-engine and all his main components overheat and thermal throttle. Picking the right case is definitely important.
@@RGInquisitor Heck yeah man, definitely rather go a bit oversize on the case than not enough. I was considering a water-cooled ITX build a long time ago, it looks nice and is the same size as an xbox but a lot more powerful. "What's not to love?", I thought. Glad I changed my mind though, especially now that I have a card that is over a foot long and can fry a steak when it's not in the proper environment lol.
Lol, every time I watch a Chris Pratt movie I tell my wife “that Dimitri guy is really talented, a succesfull TH-cam channel and great acting carreer!” Hahaha 😂 🤣
I bought the Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh RGB Case (White) for $120 back in August and it's already filled with dust. Too bad they didn't go with the 1mm mesh holes of the Phanteks rather than 1.5mm but I suspect the real contributor is the wide open "unfiltered" space on the bottom of front panel where one has to grab to remove it. Aside from the front fans and what little LED that remains unobscured on a MSI Z490 Godlike E-ATX MB...the interior seemed rather dark for I opted for a 40cm diffused RGB LED magnetic light strip (GIM KB-14) for $15.44 on A...they had a smaller 30cm as well but the 40cm fit perfectly along the top of the basement. 2 adjacent sides of the strip are magnetic and the other 2 have the diffused RGB so since the side glass has about an inch blackout strip along the top and the sides, but not the bottom...one of the magnetic strips rest against the glass to complete the picture framed glass blackout effect. Appears Lian Li now offers something similar, for $11.99 @ MC, but it appears to have only one side with RGB's and it's a stick-on style LED strip...which may be better if one wanted to install fans on the basement top.
Really like this case! Indeed would love to see how much dust you build up and I saw a comment of you that you were busy doing an experiment. Considering buying this case but I am not yet done with my research. 5 more days and I'll be the proud daddy of a 3070 or 3 more days for the AMD one!
I have this case but the only issue that I have is that the screws on the hard drive caddy (plus on other parts of the system) are incredibly tight, I can't budge most of them. lian li hired superman to tighten their screws
Great looking case! Afraid it would loot terrible with a bottom front panel RGB fan installed, it would illuminate the basement. Maybe a 240 aio and a plain black fan on the bottom?
Did you check out Gamer's Nexus review of this case and their finding about the hole in the bottom (which have no mesh or filter) that of course helps with cooling but also makes having a front mesh kind of pointless as that hole will suck in dust at the bottom? Gamer's Nexus tried taping that hole shut but that increased the temperatures slightly as a result. That being said, I do like how Lian Li seems ot be handeling criticism. They seem very open minded, take the critique to heart and listen. Listen to Your reviewers and communicate and make improvements based on that. That's the way all companies should operate. **thumbs up**
6:12 I removed this by removing the front fans, sliding it out of the rails rotating it so the tab that screws in is facing away from the front of the case. This will allow you to maneuver the piece out of the front with some wiggling.
Built my pc today, using this case. I have to say, the fans are quite noisy. Not in an airflow way, but a diesel/direct injection ticking kind of way, at all speeds. Compared to the noctua fans on my d15, the Lian li case fans are very loud. I plugged them in to be controlled via pwm from the motherboard and was hoping id be able to stop them at low load to keep the sound down. Besides that the case is great. Lots of air flow, well thought out for cable management, quality feel. The thing is seriously heavy.. I might upgrade the fans at some point. Side note, my air cooler hits the glass ever so slightly with trident z rgb ram. The fan is touching both the memory, and side panel.
Thanks for this info rusty, this changed my mind in using noctua, I'm planning on building almost the same setup except that I'll be using the be quiet! BW006 Pure Loop 240mm AIO instead of D15.
@@benposts0786 Probably better off with an AIO. Don't get me wrong the D15 is great, but why get rgb ram when you are going to cover it over with a giant fan/cooler. Can't see my strix mobo rgb or the ram... and my graphics card covered the southbridge rgb. The side cover barely touches it, maybe 1mm too much. The cover does close all the way no issue, just puts a little strain on the fan, not enough to cause concern for me. If I had my time back I would have gotten an AIO, but for the cost/reliability of the D15 I knew what to expect, no pump issues, no noise, idles a 10700k at 5.1ghz all core 3 degrees above ambient!
I just got this case and took the HDD stack out, and all 3 fans it comes with. Going to mount the LC GPU and LC CPU, then add 2 black noctua fan to bottom front, and back. Idk if it would benefit from mounting two more or one more fan on top of the PSU to pull additional heat from the GPU, although it is already Liq cooled. All in all, this is definitely the best case I've ever owned and ive had like 10.
If worried about dust, why not make the front fans air outake and the top air intake? That way if air is blowing out the front instead of in you get less dust
"Having the power supply all the way in it's closest position to the power supply leaves very little room for the power supply cables" - that's a whole lotta power supply
"Born to push limit"
Just one, though. Don't wanna get too crazy.
The limit that I always try to push is the amount of ice-cream I can consume at one sitting.
Vlad Snape goals are goals
Its always good to see Star-Lord doing Hardware reviews.
He and Superman should team up and do a build then review it
Spiderman too...but he grew a beard this year!
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@@shinybrain9975poop yeah
Who?
I literally just got this tower for my niece as a graduation build. Its amazing. Up to date ports, great ventilation, separate compartment for PSU /HDDs, two bottom connections for SSDs, back panel is very well thought of and hides the clutter of cables being seen. 10/10! But... best thing I added to this build is two adhesive magnets on the two top front corners of the glass for easy open/close access.
"I totally agree with LianLi's decision not to include a secondary dust filter behind the metal mesh in the front, because...it would make Steve at Gamers Nexus very mad."
I dunno... Bit of a show stopper there for me.
@@mgbon2 If you put another dust filter there it wouldn`t be airflow focused anymore. Two meshes behind each other are basically like a solid wall
stick the ultra-thin toilet paper in front of the mesh panel, if it collect enough dust, just throw it and replace with new one.
@@maggi98mw If you don't want the dust filter you could always remove it. Gamers Nexus has weird case reviews. They love their phanteks case without a dust filter so much, but according to their own numbers, the bequiet 500dx with dust filter removed is better than the phanteks...so their conclusions do not make a lot of sense. Now manufacturers are on the no-dust-filter hype train, simply because IF they included a dust filter then Gamers Nexus would give their case a poor review, even if their case actually does better with the dust filter removed. So now we're all stuck cleaning the inside of the case, because the "ultra fine mesh" does not in fact stop dust.
@@julesjacobs1 I agree with you here. For initial testing, you will get better temperature metrics with little or no filter but in for the actual user, the temperature difference vs. the dust being inside the case is a valid point. I dont want to spend time cleaning my fans and components in my case constantly. Also, having dust clog my GPU components and fans, where dust works its way into the moving part crevices is a no go for me. 3 degree difference for no dust? Clear choice for me.
The performance variant has a fan speed controller on the io on the top, and the rgb has an rgb controller instead.
Thought that was the most important difference between the two so i just wanted to add that here.
stupid question but is the cooling performance the same?
@@daanyalhassan2171 Depends what you do with the fans. The performance has two 140mm in the front and one 120mm fan in the back, so strictly speaking it will be a little better than the rgb which has three 120mm fans in the front. You can get another fan, a radiator or just put one fan in the back for pretty much the same airflow, but all in all I think both have such exellent airflow, that you should just worry about whether you want an rgb or a fan controller.
Victor Sande ok thanks 🙏
The thing is, with a decent motherboard there is no need for a fan controller. Useless junk. I would rather have a USBc port.
Does the fans sync with motherboard software like asus aura?
"Having the power supply all the way in its closest position to the power supply leaves very little room for the power supply cables" I heard that I it made me rethink my whole life hahaha
I just bought the kit and converted mine. Nice to see a company that does that, doesn't force you to simply buy a whole new case.
"I almost stripped some screws" he says while shoving a PH2 into a PH1 screw. Did you try using the right driver?
Another really nice case. I love how the various brands are finally waking up to what we actually want. I could see myself getting this or the P500A if I make myself a secondary rig.
Can you make a video showing how much dust was in the case after a few weeks? Btw, luv the video
I'm trying to think of a good way to do this experiment so it shows what the dust accumulation is like vs a "properly" closed case.
-D.
@@HardwareCanucks right, thanks man
@@HardwareCanucks Just build your daily driver in the case, and see what it is like after 4 weeks maybe? vs the same time in a closed and filtered case? It would take some time and wouldn't give perfect results but could be interesting.
D you deserve a good night's sleep after this one. Well done
? That’s totally subjective because people’s houses are different and people will have different types of dust accumulation
Wow they sure packed in a lot of features into that case for the price point! I will consider it for my next system build.
@Alistair performance > noise. you can upgrade the fans in the long run anyway and people would normally use headphones of some sort while listening.
The Fractal Design Meshify C has been a good choice for a while now
or just turn the fan speed down until it's quiet, my p400a is only audible under load
You guys covering this damn case has raised the price almost $20. I knew I should've gotten this before other components. This directly correlated with these reviews
So I guess an AIO in the front would be the way to go with shroud fans
Surprised that he didnt test an AIO to see if tjat still raised the cpu temps :/
@@TheStoff1975 it's minimal difference half a degree on a 22.4C ambient room temperature.
ugh nope, heat rises. 240mm on top
@sbowesuk ty friendo:)
The white version of this case with Noctua beige fans is my dream setup.
Wow, so impressive. If I hadn't fallen in love with SFF PCs, I would have bought this case instantly.
Dont SFF Pcs have bad airflow?
Jorge B. Only the bad-designed ones of course.
You can actually remove the hard drive bay without forcing it out, you can unscrew from the bottom of case if you line it up with holes underneath case you can get to the screws on bottom of the caddy/bay.
I just picked this case up for my 3960 Threadripper build and excited to test it out.
So happy to see so many new mesh cases on the market.A huge thanks to gamers nexus and other tech youtubers who bought about this change!
I’ve been using this case for a while now with the two bottom fans as well. I absolutely love this thing. I don’t think I’ll be changing cases for a long time! (I’m using the USB-C as well as the hot swap thingy)
Does the lack of dust filter on the front result in dust ingress in your experience?
Late to the party but you can remove the hard drive cage from the case for better airflow and space! Just look up a video on removing the cage and you’ll find it it’s a pretty simple process and totally worth imo
built my first computer in the lancool 2 and i love it!
That award was to be expected to be honest. Especially at such a price :3
This is it! Added to the cart. Waiting for the Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Case to arrive!
This is a great tech channel with what I consider an excellent review vid for this case :) Now, I can say this with all certainty as I myself have built in 4 of the Lancool II model cases (2 in the original & 2 in the Mesh ones) and have also found that the PSU shroud fan placement will raise the CPU temps a few degrees but, that's mostly when using an air CPU cooler so, if you're going to use an AIO then I highly suggest you take advantage of at least one of the PSU shroud's vents to keep those GPU temps in check...also if you're using an M.2 NVMe or a SATA SSD as your sole storage devices then, by all means remove the HDD cage and place at least one front case fan at the lowest location, this will help increase that PSU shroud's GPU cooling ability by feeding fresh cool air from the bottom front straight to the shroud's underside intake and thus straight up to your GPU (BTW, if you want to see some Lian Li Lancool II cooling/fan placement options then, please see my setup at my YT channel). Now, my newest Lancool II MESH build has an R7 5800X, cooled by a front mounted 360 AIO (6Xfan push & pull config), on the B550 Tomahawk mobo, a Gen4 1tb Samsung 980 Pro for boot drive/main storage, with a FTW3 Ultra RTX 3080 Ti GPU, 2Xfans on PSU shroud plus back and top exhaust fans and it's all powered by a Corsair RM850x PSU (FYI, waiting on custom PCIe power cables since the FTW3 needs three 8pins but, I'll be sure to post a final build vid on my channel once it's done).
I just ordered the mesh 2 and a 360 rad and am going to hope it doesn't need to put the radiator inlets at the top. Would like to see that video when you get it done.
@@Mobil3targ3t Ok, if you're going to use a 360mm rad in a Lancool II case then, your only placement choice is in the front of the case...only 240mm rads and possibly if you were to sandwich the two 140mm fans between the case's top and a 280mm rad you then may be able to clear motherboard VRM heatsinks and higher ram sticks.
This is my favorite channel for getting details on PC parts and this case is really nice!
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Dimitri : good people
I picked one of these up recently for my new system. Can't wait to build
First time I saw one of your videos, and subscribed. Your delivery is excellent, content solid. Have not kept up with pc technology but will likely have to replace my pc in a year or two. Seems like a good time to get current and you will be a big help.
he's the best case reviewer
yes I also love hearing someone say positive word about case I like!!
Man I always dig your videos. They are clear, to the point, great visuals, Nothing outrageous, small bits of dry humor. Some other channels go super in depth and that's fine. But you keep it "real" addressing the more everyday things people may encounter. Keep it up! I only ask for more videos! :D
I've combined it with nh d15 cpu cooler. I wouldn't have thought how massive and nice it looks compared to my old office computer case. Under load CPU temperatures went from 65° to 49°C and GPU temps from 70° to 65°C with the low fan profile. So far it's pretty amazing.
Thinking of doing the same very soon. If you don't mind me asking how much clearance you had left on cooler height? Basically how close was the top of the cooler to the glass?
I've watched this video at least 3 times so far. So much unique information compared to other videos on the case.
I love the way the Black Mesh II RGB looks with the white lights, it just beautiful.
But i also like that the Mesh II Performance has the Fan Speed options and overall comes with the bigger fans.
Is the Fan Speed Option really that important and better? or is the RGB as good without it?
Glad someone's doing case reviews.. all the popular tech channels don't care about them for some reason
The flip-able cable cover is a very tight fix for cable management even with regular ATX boards. Gets in the way especially if you want to install something like a graphic card anti-sag bracket. I flipped it around to get some extra clearance with an Asrock Z690 PG Riptide. The raised platform is also on the thin side, and some connectors would definitely interfere, depending on what you're plugging into your mobo. With the cable cover as it installed out of the box (i.e. ATX config), I would have been hard pressed to connect have all 6 main sata ports hooked.
Also, before putting in the motherboard, verify all the appropriate standoffs are in place. Mine was 'missing' one. Either the mobo had a non-standard layout or they just forgot (the standoff location doesn't include the mark for ATX motherboards).
It is a really good case otherwise, as these are only very small gripes on my part.
this has quickly become one of my favorite channels
Oh nice nice 👍
-D.
Lancool 2: "fantastic feature wise but lacked in the airflow department"
Me: Laughs in lancool 1
I love how you say "cutout".
Would have been nice to see tests with an AIO cooler as the shroud fan in that scenario may have had less influence on the CPU temp increase.
This is most likely my next case. Planning on doing a big upgrade when the new Ryzen CPUs and the RTX 3080 Ti comes out late this year.
This Is a fantastic case. Using the bottom fan is worth it, because the GPU fans are always the loudest parts of the system.
With any aftermarket air cooler you will have good temps on the cpu anyway, which is definitely more rugged than the GPU
After removing the hard drive rack, the case is just “begging” to have a 3rd intake fan on the bottom. You can move the two 140’s up and install a 120mm easily. If you flip the front fan bracket around, you can fit three 140’s - if you don’t mind leaving the bottom 2 screws out (just a few mm’s short!). But small extender brackets can be attached to secure the bottom screws.
I’m also going to install two 120 fans onto the psu shroud to force more air into the GPU. Gonna be sweeet
That's what I did. was able to barely fit a 120mm after shifting the two 140mms up a bit. Was hoping would be able to fit 3x140mm but only the newer lancool iii seems to be able to do it. How did the 120 fax on the psu shroud perform? I've seen tests where it makes the GPU cooler but makes the CPU hotter as the hot air from the GPU is being pushed towards the CPU.
Compelling case! I wonder if using an AIO cooler on the CPU would help mitigate some of that heat increase from having fans installed on the top? I don't imagine it would be a huge difference, but I assume the heat comes from running already hot air through the CPU's air-cooler. Great reviews as always, I'll definitely keep this one on my radar for my next build.
Hi, do you want to mount an aio on top, cooling the processor ? I was thinking of an Arctic AC Liquid freezer II 240 mounted on the top of the case as an exhaust, this way you have 2 x 140mm intake in the front and 3 x 120mm enhaust in the back and top. This is my go to case too, I already ordered it and can't wait for it to arrive.
There was one thing that I wanted different from the original lancool 2, which was the near solid front panel. Seems like other people wanted it too
It's THE best case for airflow. With the bottom fan, the GPU Temps are outstanding.
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too rare these days, love it
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Marvelous assessment !! Super impressed..Keep doing this type of unbiased reviews .. This is pure win-win situation !!
Dimitri, just to check.. you mentioned that the Hard Disk Cage is not removable, is it the same design as the original Lancool II. if it is, you should be able to remove it. I have removed mine on the original Lancool II. look carefully and you will know how to remove it.. there are for screw at the bottom of the cage. remove the PSU dust filter and you will be able to reach the screws at the bottom of the hdd cage.
The one thing I give the P400TS with a mesh panel from a P400RGB over this is,...well someone knocked mine off a table while running and the only thing that went wrong, I had to stick the magnetic LED stip inside back where I had it. Not a blue screen, no broken glass, no dents. It was about a 5-foot drop and the case was fully loaded, it hit a solid floor and bounced a few inches. That Lian Li case would have the glass panels swing open and shatter on impact. I mean may not be a concern for others, but if it becomes one, a study case is good.
imagine building a new case right now and having this case and the p500a to choose from... we are spoiled now! this makes my first premium case, the s340 from nzxt look obsolete
also the bequiet pure base 500dx
After watching your few PC case reviews choice was easy and instant. Thank you very match for your work and honest feedback. Outsneding job!
Feels like all the companies went in on sleek looks but too many users just didn’t get the performance so they are shifting. It’s a nice change. Am one of those customers tbh - knew what I was buying but this looks like a good replacement!
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Definitely I would buy this case right now! And the price looks worth it! Thanks for the helpful review!
Lian Li shows proper direction in PC case engineering. I'm waiting for a mesh case with more watercooling capabilities (PC O11 XLmesh ?) !
If they made this for Micro ATX I would buy it in a heart beat!
There's a lot of good cases, this year! Someone finally learned how to make good cases. 👍
2:43 Don't you mean it backwards? The holes need to be small, in able to catch dust, hair, etc.
Yeah, I had to get rid of the drive cage on mine as well. The PSU cables are thick and didn't have enough space for them. So I put the HDD directly on the case... I hate fixed systems, where you can't move stuff. :(
It's $89.00 there!? Here the price is twice! And Lancool is made in Taiwan and I live in Philippines and Taiwan is literally just north of us. I'm not really that good into pricing but I believe it should be the same price here.
Dude it is twice the price :'> dang it i was gonna choose this
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I was initially going for a P400A but this review just changed my mind :D
Your are my favorite person who review a case
have the Lian Li (no mesh), same results, absolute the best case at this price level
Optimum tech makes me want to build an itx. Hardware Canucks does the exact opposite. Idk what to do.
Easily solution: Micro ATX
@@Miles300s I, already am using a micro ATX.
@@AP93Gaming I kinda wish we have the same attention to detail quality on mATX market that these companies give to ITX and ATX. I'm on an H400 myself.
use atx itx has bad airflow
@@jonathangaylindo69gachagil18 Everybody knows that but not everybody wants a big case. Once you're not ignorant enough, you'll realize each user has varying preferences
Would have loved to see a comparison between this case and the original. Great video regardless.
Real price is around 120+ usd
The white rgb case that was the only one that could ship to greece and I comes with 3 120mm fans at the front. Very interesting and informative vid well done and also well done to lian li.😊
Thank you for this review. I just got this case to replace my old one which had not-so-good thermals.
It's kinda funny how the mesh material has been difficult for case manufacturers to pin down, but it's basically the same as the speaker grille mesh used in the 90's.
Awesome review. Wich one is better in overall score; p500a or lancool 2 mesh? I need your advice. Thanks in advance
Just a little bit of a heads up/info. The phillips screwdriver you were using was definitely too big for those screws, that's probably why you were almost stripping :) thanks for the awesome video as always.
So basically you should block off the shroud ventilation in case you are not using any shroud fans, particularly if you are running a more moderate fan profile. Reasoning seems to be that you aid the front-to-back airflow direction.
I would pay 30$ for just the from mesh to upgrade my case. This is the something they should be thinking about. I should be in marketing for Lian Li
@Grzegorz Szewczak I have a Fractal Design Meshify C and it has dust filter behind the front mesh. Very little dust comes inside the case.
They have them on Newegg
Yeah they sell for them for exactly that price.
I have this case with a "be quite" cooler running I9-12900K and its stays super cool. Definitely enjoying the case, I totally dont care about RGB its better without it. If the monitors are off you cant even tell te computer is on.
If there is no revision of this case in 2 more years, this will definitely be the housing for my next PC build. My Meshify C made me a ventilation snob!
It's been 3 years, did you get the performance version? Or a different case altogether?
@@somethingtrulyhorrifying Ended up going with the Meshify II. I'm very happy I went with it!
@@RGInquisitor Oh man, choosing a case has been like trying to decide what to eat for dinner! lol... Meshify II is a great case too, I'd probably choose that over the Lancool II mesh if they were closer in price. The egg site is about to have a big sale on Monday, I'll see if either of those(or any other decent cases) goes on sale, otherwise I'll just fork over a bill for the Lancool II mesh performance.
Honestly anything made in recent years is a big upgrade to my old CoolerMaster from
@@somethingtrulyhorrifying Well I'm gonna root for you finding your next case for a great price! I used to feel like my Meshify II was too big of a case, since its on the larger side for a mid-tower. However, after seeing how large new GPUs can get, and being able to fit a 360mm rad with a whole bunch of 140mm fans up front and at the bottom, I'm no longer feeling that way. Funny thing is, a friend of mine built a PC with similar specs to mine (RTX 3080, R9 3900X) but instead went SFF with the NZXT H1. Mine takes up whole lot more space, but is super quiet and cool. His looks nicer and is a lot more compact, but sounds like a jet-engine and all his main components overheat and thermal throttle. Picking the right case is definitely important.
@@RGInquisitor Heck yeah man, definitely rather go a bit oversize on the case than not enough. I was considering a water-cooled ITX build a long time ago, it looks nice and is the same size as an xbox but a lot more powerful. "What's not to love?", I thought. Glad I changed my mind though, especially now that I have a card that is over a foot long and can fry a steak when it's not in the proper environment lol.
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A great review as always man. And damn that your amazing russian accent i love it
I still run the O11 Dynamic since your review. LianLi delivers very good at lower pricepoints nowadays.
I bought the Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh RGB Case (White) for $120 back in August and it's already filled with dust. Too bad they didn't go with the 1mm mesh holes of the Phanteks rather than 1.5mm but I suspect the real contributor is the wide open "unfiltered" space on the bottom of front panel where one has to grab to remove it. Aside from the front fans and what little LED that remains unobscured on a MSI Z490 Godlike E-ATX MB...the interior seemed rather dark for I opted for a 40cm diffused RGB LED magnetic light strip (GIM KB-14) for $15.44 on A...they had a smaller 30cm as well but the 40cm fit perfectly along the top of the basement. 2 adjacent sides of the strip are magnetic and the other 2 have the diffused RGB so since the side glass has about an inch blackout strip along the top and the sides, but not the bottom...one of the magnetic strips rest against the glass to complete the picture framed glass blackout effect. Appears Lian Li now offers something similar, for $11.99 @ MC, but it appears to have only one side with RGB's and it's a stick-on style LED strip...which may be better if one wanted to install fans on the basement top.
Really like this case! Indeed would love to see how much dust you build up and I saw a comment of you that you were busy doing an experiment. Considering buying this case but I am not yet done with my research. 5 more days and I'll be the proud daddy of a 3070 or 3 more days for the AMD one!
Well for the price this case has excellent features and is very subtle/sleek.
Patiently waiting for the Lian Li o11 Dynamic MINI review. :)
Looks great, split in-between buying this or the fractal torrent.
lian li should make this but in matx form factor
Hey Dimitri, what lighting kit or Soft Box do you use for your setup. Your videos always seem to have great lighting and clarity. Just curious.
Add a couple cut outs for radiator hoses and I'd buy it. Yes, I still run external radiators.
Excellent review. I am going to buy this case, the Performance Model.
I have this case but the only issue that I have is that the screws on the hard drive caddy (plus on other parts of the system) are incredibly tight, I can't budge most of them.
lian li hired superman to tighten their screws
Loved the video. I'll be upgrading my H440 build to this as it cannot handle the 6800XT.
Great looking case! Afraid it would loot terrible with a bottom front panel RGB fan installed, it would illuminate the basement. Maybe a 240 aio and a plain black fan on the bottom?
Did you check out Gamer's Nexus review of this case and their finding about the hole in the bottom (which have no mesh or filter) that of course helps with cooling but also makes having a front mesh kind of pointless as that hole will suck in dust at the bottom? Gamer's Nexus tried taping that hole shut but that increased the temperatures slightly as a result.
That being said, I do like how Lian Li seems ot be handeling criticism. They seem very open minded, take the critique to heart and listen. Listen to Your reviewers and communicate and make improvements based on that. That's the way all companies should operate. **thumbs up**
Nice assembly sequence. At the end, you should have thrown down the screwdriver and walked off confidently.
That peal thro. So smooth
You can unscrew the drive cage from the bottom of the case if you take out the psu filter!
6:12 I removed this by removing the front fans, sliding it out of the rails rotating it so the tab that screws in is facing away from the front of the case. This will allow you to maneuver the piece out of the front with some wiggling.
Built my pc today, using this case. I have to say, the fans are quite noisy. Not in an airflow way, but a diesel/direct injection ticking kind of way, at all speeds. Compared to the noctua fans on my d15, the Lian li case fans are very loud. I plugged them in to be controlled via pwm from the motherboard and was hoping id be able to stop them at low load to keep the sound down. Besides that the case is great. Lots of air flow, well thought out for cable management, quality feel. The thing is seriously heavy.. I might upgrade the fans at some point. Side note, my air cooler hits the glass ever so slightly with trident z rgb ram. The fan is touching both the memory, and side panel.
Thanks for this info rusty, this changed my mind in using noctua, I'm planning on building almost the same setup except that I'll be using the be quiet! BW006 Pure Loop 240mm AIO instead of D15.
@@benposts0786 Probably better off with an AIO. Don't get me wrong the D15 is great, but why get rgb ram when you are going to cover it over with a giant fan/cooler. Can't see my strix mobo rgb or the ram... and my graphics card covered the southbridge rgb. The side cover barely touches it, maybe 1mm too much. The cover does close all the way no issue, just puts a little strain on the fan, not enough to cause concern for me. If I had my time back I would have gotten an AIO, but for the cost/reliability of the D15 I knew what to expect, no pump issues, no noise, idles a 10700k at 5.1ghz all core 3 degrees above ambient!
I just realized dimitri does more gaming content, while eber does more productivity
I just got this case and took the HDD stack out, and all 3 fans it comes with. Going to mount the LC GPU and LC CPU, then add 2 black noctua fan to bottom front, and back. Idk if it would benefit from mounting two more or one more fan on top of the PSU to pull additional heat from the GPU, although it is already Liq cooled. All in all, this is definitely the best case I've ever owned and ive had like 10.
If worried about dust, why not make the front fans air outake and the top air intake? That way if air is blowing out the front instead of in you get less dust
"Having the power supply all the way in it's closest position to the power supply leaves very little room for the power supply cables" - that's a whole lotta power supply