My dad is a elder JW I said the good news is Jesus died for our sins and he said no the good news is the 1914 BS. It’s hard to break through to the jw.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Their own Bible translation refutes the idea of Jesus coming back secretly or "invisibly". In Matthew 24, Jesus explicitly says that if anyone says he came back secretly, to not believe them. He would be visible for the whole world to see
@@Mr.DC3.1914 These are your best arguments? Ha! So you think "made" is the same as created? Prince Charles was just "made" King, does that mean he was created? NOWHERE in scripture is Jesus ever said to be "created." You believe Prov 8 is talking about Jesus? If so, do you also believe Jesus is FEMALE? Proverbs 7:4 says "Say to wisdom 'you are my sister.'" See also ch 9:1-4 Begotten also does NOT mean created, it means that when Jesus became human He was not begotten by man but rather by God. I challenge you to answer this, dogs beget dogs, birds beget birds, cats beget cats; what does God beget? Isaiah 9:6 Why would the Messiah be called "The Mighty God" same as Isaiah 10:20-21 and Jeremiah 32:18? Wouldn't this be blasphemy? >NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker< Really? Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Matthew 22:29 Colossians 1:14-17 very clearly shows us that Jesus is THE CREATOR of ALL things, and it is FOR HIM that ALL things were created. Do you have a WT Interlinear?
@@rustyshadow7 the word MADE has MANY meanings and you cannot deny that MADE also means create. GOD MADE the heavens and the earth, so was made there NOT created? Prov 8 is not talking of the literal wisdom of GOD as GOD has always his Wisdom so it is talking of the figurative wisdom which was MADE/PRODUCED and called Master. Jesus is the Wisdom of GOD in 1 Cor 1:24, and the word Wisdom there is feminine in form just like in Prov 8, so you think Jesus is a woman? Nope. and pls be honest, do u see the word CREATOR in Col 1 applied and mentioned to Jesus. ZERO. in fact Col1 uses the words DIA which means a channel of an act and EN- which means INSTRUMENTALITY which were both applied to Jesus, so Jesus was used by GOD as a channel/instrument in the act of creation. Isa 9:6 also is a PROPHECY And in FUTURE TENSE, so those titles only applied to Jesus after its fulfillment
How did I miss this! TH-cam is so inconsistent I literally have to go to your channel and look through the videos even though I've hit the Bell it still doesn't give me announcement great video! What a defender of the true faith of Jesus Christ❤ keep shining your light❤
@ScottJackson420 sorry you feel that way and I would just say that the eternality of God alone is a mystery much less three distinct persons one God the Holy Spirit has given me the ability to understand, as I read the scriptures I see baptized one name with the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit and at creation I see God say, let us create man in our image, so one image of God with the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit also I read in John 17 Jesus and the father are one and I know as a mother than I can carry my daughter and my granddaughter in one body 3 in 1 and I have a body, soul and mind, in one person, then the scriptures say that the two become one when a person is married so for me I believe there is the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit and one God Eternal always existing forever.
@ScottJackson420 I understand what you're saying but you have to take the entire picture. You have to go from Emmanuel God With Us and Isaiah and Micah calling Jesus El Gabor which is only given to Yahweh and then you have to take Jesus saying I am, which is also only attributed to Yahweh and then you have to figure out why the apostles called Jesus God, and the son of man which is a God statement from Daniel 7 plus you would have to figure out how Jesus shares Glory with God when the Bible says that no one shares Glory with him, then you have to look at Revelation 22:13 Revelation 21:6 Revelation 1:17 in Revelation 1:8 where Jesus calls himself the Alpha and Omega and on top of that you would have to figure out why Zechariah Yahweh says that he would be pierced. Then you have Thomas calling him God and in Hebrews 1 all the Angels worship Jesus, It's not just one scripture were clinging to for the Trinity or for the Divine being of Jesus Christ but it is the entire Bible that would have to be proven wrong and God would have to be a liar in order for Jesus not to be God.
i was a born-in jw and left at 20. i am now 57===my family does not talk to me. russel made up 1914 from a complex number system even measuring the pyrimid for this purpose. he also said that ww1 was a sign that indicated that he was right. hello from nyc--------chloexjw
*"russel made up 1914"* Not really. Russell got his entire Gentile Times/2,520 years/1914 fiction from the Adventists. Like virtually everything Russell taught, he cobbled together a belief system where he took an ala carte approach to accepting doctrines from the various religions, a good portion of it from Adventism. Russell had very few original ideas about anything.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 true. it is hard 2 believe that after all these years, people still dont get it---but mr bailey said from the barnum and bailey circus said--a sucker is born every minute. harsh but true. chloexjw next time, sell them the brooklyn bridge=====sorry had 2 add that.
@@sequoias So, true. But, religious people, especially JWs, don't seem to have any capacity to figure out they're being hoodwinked repeatedly. They just keep falling for the lies over and over again because their critical thinking skills have been smashed into oblivion by their overlords.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
You helped me a lot. Galatians 1:8 disqualifies Russel, Rutherford and Jehovah's Witnesses. The apostles were not preaching two hopes, nor not consuming the emblems, nor that Jesus is an archangel.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 These are your best arguments? Ha! So you think "made" is the same as created? Prince Charles was just "made" King, does that mean he was created? NOWHERE in scripture is Jesus ever said to be "created." You believe Prov 8 is talking about Jesus? If so, do you also believe Jesus is FEMALE? Proverbs 7:4 says "Say to wisdom 'you are my sister.'" See also ch 9:1-4 Begotten also does NOT mean created, it means that when Jesus became human He was not begotten by man but rather by God. I challenge you to answer this, dogs beget dogs, birds beget birds, cats beget cats; what does God beget? Isaiah 9:6 Why would the Messiah be called "The Mighty God" same as Isaiah 10:20-21 and Jeremiah 32:18? Wouldn't this be blasphemy? >NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker< Really? Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Matthew 22:29 Colossians 1:14-17 very clearly shows us that Jesus is THE CREATOR of ALL things, and it is FOR HIM that ALL things were created. Do you have a WT Interlinear?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 to your comment: " Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How can you ask such a question, and at the same time allow some brothers in your own ranks to have appropriated the position of leader within your brotherhood? Jesus Christ Himself has declared that none of His followers has the authority to appropriate the title of a „leading“, „ruling“ or even „governing“ class within a Christian community. Your organization introduced the so-called "Governing Body" in the 70s of the last century, although such a title and the position associated with it belong exclusively to Jesus Christ. (Matthew 23:10). Since you not only tolerate but explicitly approve of this practice in your religion, you have revealed which individuals you and your confreres consider to be the true „ l e a d e r “ of your organization.
@@ScottJackson. Wrong! Jesus is "The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets" who sent HIS angel. (Revelation 22:6) Just read a few verses more. Verse 16 reads “I, Jesus, have 'sent my angel' to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.” And in vv 12-13 Jesus says. 12 “Look, I am 'COMING' soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Verse 20 John leaves NO DOUBT that it is Jesus who is 'COMING'. "20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am 'COMING' soon.” Amen. COME, Lord Jesus. CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!!!
@@ScottJackson. I recommend that you examine the original text according to Revelation 22:6. The wording reads: "And he (note: not an „angel“) said to me, 'These words are faithful and true, and the Lord God of spirits and prophets has sent his angel to show his slaves what must come to past in quickness.' Incidentally, the Greek term "theos" and not "theon" appears in this verse, analogous to the wording in John 1:1. ("......and the Word was God ("greek: "Theos"). Vers 16 says: „I, Jesus, have sent my angel…..“
She literally contradicted herself. @ 16:20 in, she denied that jw.borg said preaching is required for salvation, probably because it came from YOU reading it back to her. JWs cannot accept their own writings when read back to them by Christians, because it is obviously NOT biblical. BUT, then she reads it herself, and sees it IS on their website, then suddenly supports the doctrine. Listen to how she flip-flopped at 17:30. I wonder if they could hear themselves completely contradict their own words, if it would do any good?
G'Day Rich, I hope all is well my friend. I imagine some JWs will defend this lady's flat-out contradiction, by informing us "She might have contradicted herself, BUT she was sincere about it, so therefore it's not a contradiction if you are sincere".
@@RowanTasmanian G'Day brother. Yes, the sincerity only works if you're a JW. I mean, we sincerely want to see them come to repentance in Christ, but I guess our motives must be corrupt. LOL. The truth of the matter is that JWs do this all the time. They will deny something read to them out of their WT magazine, then when, and IF, they read it themselves, then they'll just say we took it out of context. We just read it.
@@richbaker7187 G'day Rich, even when you pointed out the contradiction, I was not ready for it. It floored me. I just don't get how quickly she did a 180 degree contradiction. Do words have any meaning in JW speak?? At least they were pleasantly spoken and not rude. Can you imagine DH trying to converse with D C1 in the mall. "Call Security" "Cuff the JW"
@@RowanTasmanian He has way more patience than I do for those trolls. I'd love to get them face-to-face so they can't be keyboard warriors. They'd actually have to answer a question, but won't be able to, so they run away. You know the ol', "I have to go now, and I'm not here to argue" BS. LOL.
In a brochure WT produced a few years ago (2017?), they showed an illustration of the WT organizational structure. Jesus wasn't even in it. The structure went directly from god to the governing body.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 Are you referring to this:??? Watchtower Dec 15, 1971 page 749 1 -Jehovah God 2 -Jesus Christ is head of the Christian Congregation 3 -Faithful and Discreet Slave Class 4 - Governing Body 5 -Elders 6 -Ministerial Servants Now here they remove Jesus completely out of the equation: Watchtower Apr 15, 2013 page 29 1 -Governing Body 2 -Branch Committees 3 -Traveling Overseers 4 -Bodies of Elders 5 -Congregations 6 -Individual Publishers
The smallest smooth pebble will bring Goliath down. Not by strength or by might but by the Spirit of the Lord. The truth lid up in her when she asked wait what about the JW requirement. I hope they take your heed and read their verses with context and begin to ask questions.
Ever wondered why JWs changed? Many were once members of the churches. So there is nothing that any church member can tell them which they wouldn't have known.
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:40)
@@robynhouse8166 : Not anyone can be angel, though. Humans and angels can be used as messengers. One is what they are and the other is their assignment. Two separate things.
@@tongakhan230 You're right, you really need to use discernment when judging Bible teachings. God created celestial beings such as the Archangel Michael and earthly creatures such as humans and animals. However, nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that Jesus is to be equated with a heavenly creature. I recommend that you carefully research the Epistle to the Hebrews that Paul wrote to enlighten his Jewish confreres about the true identity of Jesus.
IF JW’S ARE SO CONVINCED THAT THEY HAVE THE "TRUTH", THEN WHY ARE THEY TOLD NOT TO READ ANY CRITICISM OF THEIR BELIEFS? Even the Bible itself encourages us to be a critical thinker: 1 Thessalonians 5:21 (NLT) says, But test everything that is said. Hold fast to what is good. Acts 17:11 says, now the latter (Bereans) were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the scriptures daily as to whether these things were so. 1 John 4:1 says, beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expression to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world. (See Deut. 13 and 18) “THE TRUTH THAT LEADS TO ETERNAL LIFE” WHY IT IS WISE TO EXAMINE YOUR RELIGION - Excerpts quoted from Chapter 2 pages 11-16 Paragraph 5 says this, we need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated. Are its teachings in full harmony with God’s Word, or are they based on the traditions of men? If we are lovers of the truth, there is nothing to fear from such an examination. It should be the sincere desire of every one of us to learn what God’s will is for us, and then to do it.-John 8:32. And yet the Watchtower 1986 4/1 pp. 30-31 says in part, Approved association with JW’S requires accepting the entire range of true teachings of the Bible, including those scriptural beliefs that are unique to JW’s The Watchtower of February 15th, 1981 page 19 says, the “brothers” preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and other Bible writers and so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding becomes clearer to correct views, Proverbs 4:18. (taken Grossly OUT OF Context) In a more recent Watchtower, the study edition, February 2017 under the heading, Who is leading God’s people today? It says this in paragraph 12, The Governing body is neither inspired nor infallible (NOR are they a Biblically appointed group of men) Therefore they can (and do) err in directional matters or in organizational direction. (Doctrines of men) So if the Watchtower publications are "not infallible" and the governing body are "neither inspired nor infallible" then, in other words, they make mistakes, then why can't JW’s question something, when they find a teaching that is clearly wrong based on the Bible. The reality is, if anyone questions Botchtower and the “Governing Body’s” teachings, even using the Bible, and start talking to other congregation members about it and the elders find out, you could end up in a judicial committee and even disfellowshipped if you persistently carried on questioning a certain belief. JW’s SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING THEIR TRUST IN THE GOVERNING BODY, THE BIBLE GIVES CLEAR WARNING ABOUT PUTTING YOUR TRUST IN MEN. Psalm 146:3 says, Do not put your trust in princes, in earthly men to whom No Salvation belongs. Jeremiah 17:5 says This is what YAHWEH has said, “Cursed is the able-bodied man who puts his trust in earthling man and actually makes flesh his arm, and whose heart turns away from YAHWEH himself. Isaiah 2:22 says, Stop trusting in mere humans, who have but a breath in their nostrils. Why hold them in esteem?” This is why I would strongly recommend that JW’s stop listening to these Self-Exalted, Self Appointed men who call themselves the Governing body- they are not "Spirit directed" and they are Blind guides who are leading others into the Same ditch of Darkness that they themselves have fallen into!! The “Governing body” have changed their doctrines and teachings on Numerous occasions, such as once teaching that the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the "Great Tribulation" and Armageddon came. That generation clearly passed away in death and the teaching ended up to be a false one. What did they do about that? They came up with the "overlapping generation" Non-Biblical teaching. This was done out of "necessity" to preserve the 1914 doctrine which clearly shows they are False Prophets!!! And, If the previous 1914 generation teaching turned out to be false, then who is to say that the current "overlapping generation" teaching could also turn out to be a false teaching in the future. What is "The Real truth" when it comes to the teachings of the men of the “Governing Body” when so-called "truth" can change, time and time and time again!!! Another reason that one should not trust these Self-Appointed, Self-Exalted Men, is because, as they Admit, they are not prophets; but they have prophesied Falsely (Deut. 13). They claim to be the leaders of some j-god’s people but give absolutely no evidence that this is true. In Biblical times, YAHWEH used prophets to lead HIS people. They had proof that God was using them with things such as supernatural miracles and divine signs that “Came to pass”. These men have no such evidence. For them to say that a j- god (NOT the God of the Bible) has chosen some Man Made Religious Organization who somehow are his "spokesman" is nothing more than a Total Non-Biblical LIE. Any religious organization could claim the same thing. A truly Wise person would need compelling BIBLICAL evidence that Yahweh is doing something through HIS People!! “But I fear that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your minds may be seduced from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if a person comes and preaches another Jesus, whom we did not preach, or you receive a different spirit, which you had not received, or a different gospel, which you had not accepted, you put up with it splendidly!” 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 .Requiring people to sell publications is a business. The Botchtower Babble and Crap Society is a Real Estate and Publishing company and it’s members are not followers of Yeshua the Messiah, they are publishers of Botchtower Babble and crap society Literature, which is something Not found anywhere in Scripture!! When the JW”s were telling people that the end of the world was coming in 1975 and JW’s sold their houses the money was given to the Organization, and the WT was taking it and investing it on Wall Street at the NY Stock Exchange!! The Botchtower Babble and crap society were Not selling anything!! They were exploiting their followers for their own personal gain; GREED!! JW’s are being deceived by a corrupt man made organization controlled by people who are blocking their members from finding the narrow gate. Instead they have created another false gate that will never be opened!!. Yeshua is the Light of the World, the Word made Flesh, the Living Torah and is God in human flesh. Not a created being. Wrong Messiah = no salvation. Clearly they do Not teach anything close to Biblical truth!! Did JW’s sell their houses in 1975 because the WT told their members the end of the world was imminent?? YES!! People gave their money to the WT while the WT was investing some $300 million in the stock market. What would you call such an organization???
Here's why: _"Any doctrine that will not bear investigation is not a fit tenant for the mind of an honest man. Any man who is afraid to have his doctrine investigated is not only a coward but a hypocrite."_ -R.G. Ingersoll
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 These are your best arguments? Ha! So you think "made" is the same as created? Prince Charles was just "made" King, does that mean he was created? NOWHERE in scripture is Jesus ever said to be "created." You believe Prov 8 is talking about Jesus? If so, do you also believe Jesus is FEMALE? Proverbs 7:4 says "Say to wisdom 'you are my sister.'" See also ch 9:1-4 Begotten also does NOT mean created, it means that when Jesus became human He was not begotten by man but rather by God. I challenge you to answer this, dogs beget dogs, birds beget birds, cats beget cats; what does God beget? Isaiah 9:6 Why would the Messiah be called "The Mighty God" same as Isaiah 10:20-21 and Jeremiah 32:18? Wouldn't this be blasphemy? >NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker< Really? Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Matthew 22:29 Colossians 1:14-17 very clearly shows us that Jesus is THE CREATOR of ALL things, and it is FOR HIM that ALL things were created. Do you have a WT Interlinear?
@@rustyshadow7 the word MADE has MANY meanings and you cannot deny that MADE also means create. GOD MADE the heavens and the earth, so was made there NOT created? Prov 8 is not talking of the literal wisdom of GOD as GOD has always his Wisdom so it is talking of the figurative wisdom which was MADE/PRODUCED and called Master. Jesus is the Wisdom of GOD in 1 Cor 1:24, and the word Wisdom there is feminine in form just like in Prov 8, so you think Jesus is a woman? Nope. and pls be honest, do u see the word CREATOR in Col 1 applied and mentioned to Jesus. ZERO. in fact Col1 uses the words DIA which means a channel of an act and EN- which means INSTRUMENTALITY which were both applied to Jesus, so Jesus was used by GOD as a channel/instrument in the act of creation. Isa 9:6 also is a PROPHECY And in FUTURE TENSE, so those titles only applied to Jesus after its fulfillment
They don’t have to read the Bible the governing body has read the Bible for them. They just have to shut up and follow instruction, or else the local elders will disfellowship them
@@tongakhan230 Obviously, you have not really realized the real reason for this commitment yet. To protect your fellow human beings from false teachers who pursue only one goal, to instrumentalize them for their personal purposes. (e.g. donations, voluntary work for real estate, free membership recruitment, etc.) Of course, you are free to continue to make donations to your organization and to carry out cleaning and maintenance work for the Kingdom Halls, whose ownership rights were transferred to the Watchtower Society a few years ago. Rutherford had already induced his personal vicarious agents to build a "house of princes" with the help of their donations under the pretext that the prophets of pre-Christian times, such as Abraham, Moses and Daniel, would soon return to earth. Finally, Rutherford decided without further ado to take possession of this house of princes himself as a self-proclaimed prince. Truly a noble gesture from a true follower of Christ.
SALVATION WE OWE FROM GOD AND THE LAMB - Rev 7:9-10, SO We need BOTH OF THEM. Both GOD and the lamb are saviors, Rev 7:9-10, even Jesus needed to be saved by the Father from death as the Father is the SOURCE OF LIFE AND SALVATION , Hebrews 5:7 & John 5:26 - THE FATHER GAVE THE SON LIFE.
What may we ask is the real Gospel? The one taught by the Roman Catholic Church with its Trinity doctrine? Or which of the babel of Protestant church doctrines? Which incidentally borrowed the RCC Trinity. The RCC was not good enough. But some of their doctrines were? Strange!
We will use your organization's version of the Bible to examine which gospel needs to be acknowledged by every true worshipper of God, according to the statement of the God-inspired apostle Paul. 1 Corinthians 1,1-2 (NWT Study Edition) 1 Now I remind you, brothers, of t h e g o o d n e w s that I declared to you,a which you also accepted, and for which you have taken your stand. 2 T h r o u g h i t y o u a r e a l s o b e i n g s a v e d if you h o l d f i r m l y to t h e g o o d n e w s I declared to you, unless you became believers for nothing. As you can see from the above scripture, the apostle Paul summarized the quintessence of the gospel he preached in the 15th chapter of his first letter to the Corinthians. In this regard, a few days ago I asked your confrere, Matt Gardener, if he could confirm to me that he recognizes the following guidelines of your organization regarding the usage of the Bible in regular missionary service. Unfortunately, I have not yet received an answer from your confrere to this simple question. However, the reasons for his silence are incomprehensible to me, especially since I referred him to unequivocal statements in the literature of your own organization. Since you are once again appearing on this TH-cam channel as a zealous advocate of the teachings of the Watchtower Society, which claims for itself the privilege of being in full possession of the truth, perhaps you can show your willingness to give me a concrete answer to the following two simple questions. Questions: 1.) Are you willing to accept the core statements of the apostle Paul in the 15th chapter of his First Epistle to the Corinthians as the only true gospel? 2.) Can you confirm that you recognize the following guidelines of your organization regarding the use or handling of the Bible in regular missionary service as the valid standard for teaching the true gospel? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “Bearing Thorough Witness” About God’s Kingdom (bt) Chapter 17, p. 134-135, paragraph 6 and 7 6 "Paul followed the standard set by Jesus, w h o u s e d t h e S c r i p t u r e s a s t h e b a s i s f o r h i s t e a c h i n g. During his public ministry, for example, Jesus told his followers that according to the Scriptures, the Son of man must suffer, die, and be raised from the dead. (Matt. 16:21) After his resurrection, Jesus appeared to his disciples. Surely that alone would show that he had spoken the truth. Yet, Jesus gave them more. Concerning what he said to certain disciples, we read: “Starting with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them things pertaining to himself in all the Scriptures.” With what result? The disciples exclaimed: “Were not our hearts burning within us as he was speaking to us on the road, as he was fully opening up the Scriptures to us?”-Luke 24:13, 27, 32. 7. Why is it important to base our teaching on the Scriptures? 7 The message of God’s Word has power. (Heb. 4:12) C h r i s t i a n s t o d a y thus b a s e t h e i r t e a c h i n g s o n t h a t W o r d , as did Jesus, Paul, and the other apostles. W e t o o reason with people, explain what the Scriptures mean, and p r o v i d e p r o o f o f w h a t w e t e a c h b y o p e n i n g t h e B i b l e to show householders what it says. After all, t h e m e s s a g e w e b r i n g i s n o t o u r s . B y u s i n g t h e B i b l e l i b e r a l l y , we help people to discern that we proclaim, not our own ideas, but the teachings of God. Additionally, we do well to keep in mind that t h e m e s s a g e w e p r e a c h is s o l i d l y f o u n d e d o n G o d ’ s W o r d . It is completely reliable. Does knowing that not give you confidence to share the message boldly, as Paul did? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
@@LightoverDarkMinistry : Gospel means good news. What is the good news that Jesus wanted preached as a sign of the last days? Here it is. (Matthew 24:14) And this good news OF THE KINGDOM will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and THEN THE END WILL COME. Can't see any ONE UNITED GROUP fulfilling this other than JWs. Any other comes to mind?
@@tongakhan230 Since you are specially trained in the virtue of the love of truth, you will certainly not shy away from answering the question of whether the following figures and dates correspond to the actual facts or not. If I am guilty of misrepresentation, I would ask you to draw my attention to that particular mistake. country population number of Jehova`s Witnesses China 1.411 Mio not published Saudi Arabia 35 Mio not published Afghanistan 39 Mio not published Iran 84 Mio not published Iraq 41 Mio not published Uzbekistan 36 Mio not published Viet Nam 97 Mio not published Syria: 17 Mio not published Egypt 102 Mio not published India 1.400 Mio 53.000 Pakistan 221 Mio 1.000 Bangladesh 165 Mio 330 Ethiopia 115 Mio 11.000 Burkina Faso 21 Mio 2.000 Indonesia 273 Mio 30.000 Malaysia 32 Mio 5.600 Mali 20 Mio 360 Nepal 29 Mio 2.700 Niger 24 Mio 350 Senegal 16 Mio 1.400 Uganda 42 Mio 9.000 Sri Lanka 21 Mio 3.200 Thailand 70 Mio 5.500 Turkey 85 Mio 5.000 _______________________ 4.396 Mio 130.440 = 0,003 % of the population ========= ======= Mexico 129 Mio 870.000 = 0,67 % of the population ====== ======== ======= ================================================================================= This means that there are 220 times as many Jehovah's Witnesses in Mexico as in the totality of the countries mentioned above. How is this possible? ================================================================================ Result: ======= 1.) According to the official statistics of your organization, there are fewer Jehovah's Witnesses in the listed countries, where more than half of the world's population lives, than in Germany alone. These countries are characterized by non-Christian faith traditions and undemocratic or partly autocratic structures. 2.) In all countries where the Christian faith is anchored, the proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses in the population is high. (Example: Germany: 84 million inhabitants, around 180,000 Jehovah's Witnesses; Mexico: 129 million inhabitants, around 870,000 Jehovah's Witnesses). 3.) In all countries where the Christian faith is not anchored, the proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses in the total population is low. (Example: Turkey, with 84 million inhabitants comparable to Germany with only about 5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses). 4.) In countries where a non-Christian faith is traditionally deeply rooted, the proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses in the total population is negligible. (Example. India, 1.4 billion inhabitants, 53,000 Jehovah's Witnesses). Inference: ======== The possibility of accepting the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses demonstrably depends on the "factor" of chance and "favors" people who happen to be born in a country where Christian doctrine is traditionally anchored and which is characterized by democratic and constitutional structures. Question I: ========== In light of these objective findings, would you still claim that your organization has carried out its preaching work equally in all countries and corners of the earth and can consider it complete? And that all people who do not belong to your organization deserve eternal destruction in Armageddon? Among them are around 1.5 billion children up to the age of 15 who were born in predominantly poor countries and have to cope with their lives under adverse conditions. Regardless, preaching any gospel is not crucial, as Paul warned several times against preachers of another gospel. For example, in his letters to the Corinthians and his letter to the Galatians. (2 Corinthians 11:1-10; 1 Corinthians 15:1-2; Galatians 1:6-9) Question II: ======== For example, is it an integral part of your teaching that in the Parousia of Christ, all Christians will experience simultaneously and collectively the resurrection or transformation of their bodies and the rapture into heaven to Jesus? (1 Thessalonians 4:14-18; 1 Corinthians 15:50-52).
The struggle I’m having with my mom and sister is, if being a Jehovahs Witness is the only way to salvation. That we are the only ones that make up the Great Crowd who will survive Armageddon and live forever on paradise earth. So I make them think and I say, “Then what happens to everyone who lived before this Organization became into being? Are they automatically dead and not worthy?” They always respond with, “well no, they will come back and be judged for how they lived their life and they get to make their decision.” And that’s when I say, “ok then what’s the point of the Book of Life? If they get to get resurrected and judged, why do you, me or whoever in the “truth” also have to be resurrected for judgement?. I thought we had the truth and we preached our entire lives? Michael Jackson and I receive the same judgement? He lives an immoral life and I lived a righteous life, and we get the same results? How is it that both the unrighteous and righteous are put in the same category?” I always end with, “Faith in Jesus is then only way to salvation, not by works. If someone from the 1800’s died living a righteous life and followed in the footsteps of Jesus Christ, then that person died as a child of God. Which Jesus states clearly in the Bible. We all have a calling to stand before Jesus, it’s not about the “144,000 or Great Crowd.” This is one example of many
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER ALL and that includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of *eternal life* to all who trust Him alone for salvation. This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ (alone) for salvation.
@@ScottJackson. He is God. 200 AD Tertullian "Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6) 200 AD Tertullian "All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11) 200 AD Tertullian "The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7). 200 AD Tertullian "[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12) 200 AD Tertullian "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25) 200 AD Tertullian "As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Against Praxeas, by Tertullian) 200 AD Tertullian "So too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God; and the two are one.... In his birth he is God and man united." (Apology, ch 21) 200 AD Tertullian "There is one only God, but under the following dispensation, or oikonomia, as it is called, that this one only God has also a Son, His Word, who proceeded from Himself, by whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. Him we believe to have been sent by the Father into the Virgin, and to have been born of her - being both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God, and to have been called by the name of Jesus Christ; we believe Him to have suffered, died, and been buried, according to the Scriptures, and, after He had been raised again by the Father and taken back to heaven, to be sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that He will come to judge the quick and the dead; who sent also from heaven from the Father, according to His own promise, the Holy Ghost, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father, and in the Son, and in the Holy Ghost. That this rule of faith has come down to us from the beginning of the gospel, even before any of the older heretics." (Against Praxeas, ch 2) 200 AD Tertullian "That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth; not as if the Father and the Son were not God, nor the Spirit God, and each of them God; but formerly two were spoken of as Gods and two as Lords, so that when Christ would come, he might both be acknowledged as God and be called Lord, because he is the Son of him who is both God and Lord" (Against Praxeas 13:6) 200 AD Tertullian "The Spirit is God, and the Word is God, because proceeding from God, but yet is not actually the very same as He from whom He proceeds.." (Against Praxeas, ch 26) 200 AD Tertullian "For He could not have been the Father previous to the Son, nor a judge previous to sin" (Against Hermogones, Ch 3) 200 AD Tertullian "He will be God, and the Word - the Son of God. We see plainly the twofold state, which is not confounded, but conjoined in One Person - Jesus, God and Man.." (Against Praxeas, ch 27) 200 AD Tertullian "God alone is without sin. The only man who is without sin is Christ; for Christ is also God" (The Soul 41:3)
JW is a masonic religion. It was originally a shareholder ( dividend system ) but they grew too big ( hence the introduction of the great crowd ) they still pay millions to shareholders who are legally known in their documents as " the order "
@@FantasyVisuals You have raised an extremely important issue. The Watchtower Society was founded in the 19th century as a business company in the legal form of a stock company. According to commercial law, this company must appoint a legal representative, namely the president and a vice president, and hold an annual general meeting. In this context, every stock company is obliged under commercial law to prepare an annual report. This annual report shows the assets and liabilities as well as the annual profit generated. In this sense, the Watchtower Society is also obliged to prepare an annual balance sheet and to hold an annual general meeting. (see the following Watchtower article.) Against this background, the following questions inevitably arise: 1.) What do the annual financial statements look like? 2.) Who are the shareholders? 3.) Will dividends be paid to shareholders and, if so, in what amount? The Watchtower article explains that the number of shareholders was limited to 500 persons by a resolution of the general meeting in 1944. Against this background, the Company would be obliged to disclose the names of these shareholders to its members and the public upon request. Howewer, none of the elders I know could give me an answer to these most justified questions. This Watchtower article also states in a boastful tone that the Governing Body has already been appointed over "all possessions" regarding Jesus' statement in Matthew 24:45-46, knowing full well that Jesus also emphasized in this speech that he would not perform this act after his coming. Jesus Himself predicted in His end-time discourse that His coming will be visible to all the tribes of the earth. (Matthew 24:30). The self-proclaimed leadership class of the Watchtower Society, in an act of self-empowerment, claims this position for itself even before the epochal event of Jesus' coming on the clouds has actually occurred. I have never experienced such a form of self-glorification. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Watchtower January 15 2001 Page 28, Paragraph 1-4 ==================== A N N U A L m e e t i n g s of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania h a v e b e e n h e l d s i n c e J a n u a r y o f 18 8 5 . When the ingathering of anointed Christians was underway in the late 19th century, the directors and officers of this corporation had the heavenly hope. In fact, this has almost always been the case. There was one exception. In 1940, H a y d e n C . C o v i n g t o n -then the Society’s legal counsel and one of the “other sheep,” with the earthly hope-was e l e c t e d a d i r e c t o r o f t h e S o c i e t y . (John 10:16) He served as the Society’s vice president from 1942 to 1945. At that time, Brother Covington stepped aside as a director to comply with what then seemed to be Jehovah’s will-that all directors and officers of the Pennsylvania corporation be anointed Christians. Lyman A. Swingle replaced Hayden C. Covington on the board of directors, and Frederick W. Franz was elected vice president. Why did Jehovah’s servants believe that all t h e d i r e c t o r s a n d o f f i c e r s of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania should be anointed Christians? Because at the time, the b o a r d o f d i r e c t o r s and officers of the Pennsylvania corporation were closely identified with the G o v e r n i n g B o d y of Jehovah’s Witnesses, which has always been made up entirely of spirit-anointed men. A Historic Annual Meeting At the a n n u a l m e e t i n g held on October 2, 1944, in Pittsburgh, the members of the Pennsylvania corporation adopted six resolutions amending its charter. The charter had provided that v o t i n g s h a r e s be issued to contributors of funds to the Society’s work, but the third amendment eliminated that provision. A report on that annual meeting noted: “ M e m b e r s h i p i n t h e S o c i e t y will be limited to n o t m o r e t h a n 5 0 0 . . . Each one chosen must be a full-time servant of the Society or a part-time servant of a company [congregation] of Jehovah’s witnesses and must show the spirit of the Lord.” Page 31, Paragraph 2-4 =================== A Special Announcement AT THE conclusion of the annual meeting of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania on October 7, 2000, a special announcement was made by the chairman, J o h n E . B a r r of the Governing Body. This announcement built further on discourses given earlier that day by Theodore Jaracz and Daniel Sydlik.-See pages 12-16 and 28-31 of this magazine. Making a very significant point, Brother Barr stated: “‘The f a i t h f u l a n d d i s c r e e t s l a v e ’ and its Governing Body have had entrusted to them interests that are higher and far more encompassing than those granted to legal corporations. Set out in the chartered purposes of each of such entities are matters that are limited in their scope. Our Master, Jesus Christ, however, h a s a p p o i n t e d t h e f a i t h f u l s l a v e class o v e r a l l h i s ‘ b e l o n g i n g s ,’ or Kingdom interests here on earth.”-Matthew 24:45-47. Concerning the Pennsylvania corporation, Brother Barr added: “Ever since its incorporation in 1884, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania has played an important role in our modern-day history. Still, it is merely a legal instrument available for use by ‘the faithful and discreet slave’ when it is necessary.” In their discourses, Brothers Sydlik and Jaracz had explained that the fact that “the faithful and discreet slave” h a s b e e n e n t r u s t e d w i t h a l l of the Lord’s earthly b e l o n g i n g s does not prevent the slave class from allowing qualified men from among the “other sheep” to care for certain routine administrative responsibilities. (John 10:16) Nor is there any Scriptural reason to insist that all or any of the directors of the legal entities used by Jehovah’s Witnesses be anointed Christians. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WILL THE WICKED be resurrected acc to the Bible? HOW MANY FACE does GOD have if he is three persons? Do yo use I am, me and myself for ONE LITERAL PERSON or three persons?
Will the wicked be resurrected ACCORDING TO THE WATCHTOWER? Does God use the words "us" and "our"? God said "Let US make man in OUR image" So how many images does God have ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE? And WHO is the image of the "invisible God" ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE?
@@rustyshadow7 btw, a teacher says LET US make this project, do you actually believe automatically that the person the teacher is asking is another teacher or probably a student?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 According to THE WATCHEOWER the wicked WILL be raised! WT 7/1879, p.8 WT 8/1/1965, p.479 LIVE FOREVER, early editions p.179 INSIGHT, Vol. 2, p.985 So the WT DISAGREES with THE BIBLE? So who do YOU agree with, WT or BIBLE?
@mrdc1914 If a teacher says "Let us make this project" is the teacher involved in the making of the project, yes or no? Also, is the student less human than the teacher, or are they EQUALLY human? Let US see if you have the guts to answer this.
The Bible says that a woman should submit to her husband in everything. Does that mean if he told her to help him rob a bank would that be a part of that everything? Who told you to call God a Trinity? Are you saying no to the God of our Lord and Master Jesus Christ?
@@bretherenlee1404 And a husband should submit to his wife...the Bible teaches husband and wife submit one to another. Is this teaching inconvenient for you? Why do you only teach woman submit to man.?
I truly hope you read this because something that was a stepping stone to my leaving was that a woman I was witnessing to at the door made a comment to me when I said that I was doing what the early Christians did in preaching. She said no. They let the holy spirit lead them. They did follow maps and keep records and make call backs like a salesman. That's what you do.
The possibility of working out salvation without faith is not there. Both go hand in hand. James 2:18 Nevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS USELESS? Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but ONLY THE ONE DOING the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. God will not permit his people JWs to get persecuted, assaulted, thrown into jails and some killed if everyone claiming faith can sit at home and be saved.
Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is the Prince of Peace, but when Jesus arrived, He said, Do not think i came to bring peace, but Swords,His symbolical words, the cause of the rise of Fake christians,, Mat, 10:34-35, but the apostles who were told by Jesus about the SECRETS OF KINGDOM did not hesitate to preach, that Jesus was killed, but Jehovah raised him up, They even some of them only a fishermen, they Know, Jehovah is the only one who can raised from the graves,Acts, 5:28-31 /Deut,32:39 /1st,Sam, 2:6, /2nd,Kings, 5:7,,, Jesus revealed to them all secrets exclusively, @ Mat, 13:10-11 /Mark, 4:34,
Jesus is not ‘God crap’; he’s the Way, the Truth and the Life. The JWs on the other hand are a satanically-inspired deceptive cult, designed to deceive the unwary. Also with respect, you believing or not believing something doesn’t establish its objective validity or not. Jesus’ existence is a totally established historical fact.....the question is not whether he existed, but WHO and WHAT was he? In my case, I met him 31 years ago when close to suicide, so I’m not at the mercy of those atheists who deny the existence of God. My instant deliverance from panic attacks, anxiety state and depression, plus 31 years of daily experience is all the proof I need. ‘Religion’ serves up a lot of ‘God crap’ that’s true, but the presence of the counterfeit establishes the existence of the true. Shalom in Christ.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Where does the bible teach that you are to follow 2 Gods as required by the JW religion ? D C1 follows the words of Jehovah =1 God D C1 follows the words of Jesus = 1 God D C1 follows 2 Gods and the words of "his 2 Gods" D C1 follows a form of Polytheism called Henotheism. D C1 wrote this very morning to Beau Read stating "Jesus is NOT called the true God in the BIble nor is he a false god, as the word theos/elohim has MANY meanings, SO JESUS IS A GOD"... D C1 believes in more than 1 God. Christians believe in 1 God , D C1 unfortunately believes in 2 Gods.
@@RowanTasmanian you are so BLIND, there is ONE GOD, THE CREATOR, nobody is GOD like him. Jesus was/is NOT GOD, the Creator, but a god that was MADE/CREATED. that's why the term GOD of gods, there is ONE GOD, THE FATHER (and excluding the SON), 1 Cor 8:6. all the rest are so called gods. that's why the term GOD of gods. you cannot accept that FACT. answer this, HOW MANY FACES does GOD have if he is THREE persons? SKIPPING AGAIN ? still BLASPHEMOUS AND making GOD a pagan trinity and LIKE SATAN, REPENT, ANTICHRIST! is a CRANE A REAL ANIMAL? skipping again, blind one!
Jehovah's Witnesses are commanded by Jehovah God to preach the good news of the Kingdom in all the world so that people of all nations will have an opportunity to know of God’s new world. (Matthew 24:14; 28: 19, 20) Jehovah God is now offering you an opportunity for life in his new world, where he will bless faithful people with the desires of their hearts. (Psalm 10:17; 27:4) What is the desire of your heart? 💖
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My dad is a elder JW I said the good news is Jesus died for our sins and he said no the good news is the 1914 BS. It’s hard to break through to the jw.
Galatians 1:8 ❤
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Their own Bible translation refutes the idea of Jesus coming back secretly or "invisibly". In Matthew 24, Jesus explicitly says that if anyone says he came back secretly, to not believe them. He would be visible for the whole world to see
@@Mr.DC3.1914
These are your best arguments? Ha! So you think "made" is the same as created? Prince Charles was just "made" King, does that mean he was created? NOWHERE in scripture is Jesus ever said to be "created."
You believe Prov 8 is talking about Jesus? If so, do you also believe Jesus is FEMALE? Proverbs 7:4 says "Say to wisdom 'you are my sister.'" See also ch 9:1-4
Begotten also does NOT mean created, it means that when Jesus became human He was not begotten by man but rather by God. I challenge you to answer this, dogs beget dogs, birds beget birds, cats beget cats; what does God beget?
Isaiah 9:6 Why would the Messiah be called "The Mighty God" same as Isaiah 10:20-21 and Jeremiah 32:18? Wouldn't this be blasphemy?
>NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker<
Really? Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Matthew 22:29
Colossians 1:14-17 very clearly shows us that Jesus is THE CREATOR of ALL things, and it is FOR HIM that ALL things were created.
Do you have a WT Interlinear?
@@rustyshadow7 the word MADE has MANY meanings and you cannot deny that MADE also means create. GOD MADE the heavens and the earth, so was made there NOT created? Prov 8 is not talking of the literal wisdom of GOD as GOD has always his Wisdom so it is talking of the figurative wisdom which was MADE/PRODUCED and called Master. Jesus is the Wisdom of GOD in 1 Cor 1:24, and the word Wisdom there is feminine in form just like in Prov 8, so you think Jesus is a woman? Nope. and pls be honest, do u see the word CREATOR in Col 1 applied and mentioned to Jesus. ZERO. in fact Col1 uses the words DIA which means a channel of an act and EN- which means INSTRUMENTALITY which were both applied to Jesus, so Jesus was used by GOD as a channel/instrument in the act of creation. Isa 9:6 also is a PROPHECY And in FUTURE TENSE, so those titles only applied to Jesus after its fulfillment
I've been speaking a little with jws at the moment and uploaded similar conversations to my channel. Good to hear similar stuff. Great job brother.
Go for it. Get them back to whatever church they belonged to teaching whatever doctrines these teach.
@@tongakhan230 Most of them grew up JWs.
@@misterauctor7353 : Mostly converts. There are children of JWs who go onto become JWs. Then there are those who do not.
@@tongakhan230 Mostly birth-ins*
How did I miss this! TH-cam is so inconsistent I literally have to go to your channel and look through the videos even though I've hit the Bell it still doesn't give me announcement great video! What a defender of the true faith of Jesus Christ❤ keep shining your light❤
The Trinity is still a false teaching if you Love Jesus you would know that
@ScottJackson420 sorry you feel that way and I would just say that the eternality of God alone is a mystery much less three distinct persons one God the Holy Spirit has given me the ability to understand, as I read the scriptures I see baptized one name with the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit and at creation I see God say, let us create man in our image, so one image of God with the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit also I read in John 17 Jesus and the father are one and I know as a mother than I can carry my daughter and my granddaughter in one body 3 in 1 and I have a body, soul and mind, in one person, then the scriptures say that the two become one when a person is married so for me I believe there is the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit and one God Eternal always existing forever.
@@exjwlaura One John 17:21, 22 KJV 1 John 4:15, 16 KJV see no reason to believe Jesus is the only one with God
@@exjwlaura if God can be in you and you in God does not prove you are the One God 1 John 4:15, 16 KJV
@ScottJackson420 I understand what you're saying but you have to take the entire picture. You have to go from Emmanuel God With Us and Isaiah and Micah calling Jesus El Gabor which is only given to Yahweh and then you have to take Jesus saying I am, which is also only attributed to Yahweh and then you have to figure out why the apostles called Jesus God, and the son of man which is a God statement from Daniel 7 plus you would have to figure out how Jesus shares Glory with God when the Bible says that no one shares Glory with him, then you have to look at Revelation 22:13 Revelation 21:6 Revelation 1:17 in Revelation 1:8 where Jesus calls himself the Alpha and Omega and on top of that you would have to figure out why Zechariah Yahweh says that he would be pierced. Then you have Thomas calling him God and in Hebrews 1 all the Angels worship Jesus, It's not just one scripture were clinging to for the Trinity or for the Divine being of Jesus Christ but it is the entire Bible that would have to be proven wrong and God would have to be a liar in order for Jesus not to be God.
i was a born-in jw and left at 20. i am now 57===my family does not talk to me. russel made up 1914 from a complex number system even measuring the pyrimid for this purpose. he also said that ww1 was a sign that indicated that he was right. hello from nyc--------chloexjw
*"russel made up 1914"*
Not really. Russell got his entire Gentile Times/2,520 years/1914 fiction from the Adventists. Like virtually everything Russell taught, he cobbled together a belief system where he took an ala carte approach to accepting doctrines from the various religions, a good portion of it from Adventism. Russell had very few original ideas about anything.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 true. it is hard 2 believe that after all these years, people still dont get it---but mr bailey said from the barnum and bailey circus said--a sucker is born every minute. harsh but true. chloexjw next time, sell them the brooklyn bridge=====sorry had 2 add that.
@@sequoias
So, true. But, religious people, especially JWs, don't seem to have any capacity to figure out they're being hoodwinked repeatedly. They just keep falling for the lies over and over again because their critical thinking skills have been smashed into oblivion by their overlords.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
God never said to predict his coming by years or hours. So what gave him the right to make predictions?
You helped me a lot. Galatians 1:8 disqualifies Russel, Rutherford and Jehovah's Witnesses. The apostles were not preaching two hopes, nor not consuming the emblems, nor that Jesus is an archangel.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@Mr.DC3.1914
These are your best arguments? Ha! So you think "made" is the same as created? Prince Charles was just "made" King, does that mean he was created? NOWHERE in scripture is Jesus ever said to be "created."
You believe Prov 8 is talking about Jesus? If so, do you also believe Jesus is FEMALE? Proverbs 7:4 says "Say to wisdom 'you are my sister.'" See also ch 9:1-4
Begotten also does NOT mean created, it means that when Jesus became human He was not begotten by man but rather by God. I challenge you to answer this, dogs beget dogs, birds beget birds, cats beget cats; what does God beget?
Isaiah 9:6 Why would the Messiah be called "The Mighty God" same as Isaiah 10:20-21 and Jeremiah 32:18? Wouldn't this be blasphemy?
>NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker<
Really? Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Matthew 22:29
Colossians 1:14-17 very clearly shows us that Jesus is THE CREATOR of ALL things, and it is FOR HIM that ALL things were created.
Do you have a WT Interlinear?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 to your comment: " Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?"
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How can you ask such a question, and at the same time allow some brothers in your own ranks to have appropriated the position of leader within your brotherhood?
Jesus Christ Himself has declared that none of His followers has the authority to appropriate the title of a „leading“, „ruling“ or even „governing“ class within a Christian community.
Your organization introduced the so-called "Governing Body" in the 70s of the last century, although such a title and the position associated with it belong exclusively to Jesus Christ. (Matthew 23:10).
Since you not only tolerate but explicitly approve of this practice in your religion, you have revealed which individuals you and your confreres consider to be the true „ l e a d e r “ of your organization.
@@ScottJackson.
Wrong! Jesus is "The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets" who sent HIS angel. (Revelation 22:6) Just read a few verses more. Verse 16 reads
“I, Jesus, have 'sent my angel' to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
And in vv 12-13 Jesus says.
12 “Look, I am 'COMING' soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Verse 20 John leaves NO DOUBT that it is Jesus who is 'COMING'.
"20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am 'COMING' soon.”
Amen. COME, Lord Jesus.
CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!!!
@@ScottJackson. I recommend that you examine the original text according to Revelation 22:6. The wording reads: "And he (note: not an „angel“) said to me, 'These words are faithful and true, and the Lord God of spirits and prophets has sent his angel to show his slaves what must come to past in quickness.'
Incidentally, the Greek term "theos" and not "theon" appears in this verse, analogous to the wording in John 1:1. ("......and the Word was God ("greek: "Theos").
Vers 16 says: „I, Jesus, have sent my angel…..“
She literally contradicted herself. @ 16:20 in, she denied that jw.borg said preaching is required for salvation, probably because it came from YOU reading it back to her. JWs cannot accept their own writings when read back to them by Christians, because it is obviously NOT biblical. BUT, then she reads it herself, and sees it IS on their website, then suddenly supports the doctrine. Listen to how she flip-flopped at 17:30.
I wonder if they could hear themselves completely contradict their own words, if it would do any good?
Amazing isn’t it. Whatever the borg says, is more important than the words of scripture.
G'Day Rich, I hope all is well my friend.
I imagine some JWs will defend this lady's flat-out contradiction, by informing us
"She might have contradicted herself, BUT she was sincere about it, so therefore it's not a contradiction if you are sincere".
@@RowanTasmanian G'Day brother. Yes, the sincerity only works if you're a JW. I mean, we sincerely want to see them come to repentance in Christ, but I guess our motives must be corrupt. LOL.
The truth of the matter is that JWs do this all the time. They will deny something read to them out of their WT magazine, then when, and IF, they read it themselves, then they'll just say we took it out of context.
We just read it.
@@richbaker7187 G'day Rich, even when you pointed out the contradiction, I was not ready for it. It floored me. I just don't get how quickly she did a 180 degree contradiction.
Do words have any meaning in JW speak??
At least they were pleasantly spoken and not rude.
Can you imagine DH trying to converse with D C1 in the mall. "Call Security" "Cuff the JW"
@@RowanTasmanian He has way more patience than I do for those trolls. I'd love to get them face-to-face so they can't be keyboard warriors. They'd actually have to answer a question, but won't be able to, so they run away.
You know the ol', "I have to go now, and I'm not here to argue" BS. LOL.
Wow great convo.. i heard you providing alot of scripture vs their..well what we think and understand is..
Sad...but true witness. Jesus is second to the org.
In a brochure WT produced a few years ago (2017?), they showed an illustration of the WT organizational structure. Jesus wasn't even in it. The structure went directly from god to the governing body.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 Are you referring to this:???
Watchtower Dec 15, 1971 page 749
1 -Jehovah God
2 -Jesus Christ is head of the Christian Congregation
3 -Faithful and Discreet Slave Class
4 - Governing Body
5 -Elders
6 -Ministerial Servants
Now here they remove Jesus completely out of the equation:
Watchtower Apr 15, 2013 page 29
1 -Governing Body
2 -Branch Committees
3 -Traveling Overseers
4 -Bodies of Elders
5 -Congregations
6 -Individual Publishers
The smallest smooth pebble will bring Goliath down. Not by strength or by might but by the Spirit of the Lord.
The truth lid up in her when she asked wait what about the JW requirement. I hope they take your heed and read their verses with context and begin to ask questions.
Ever wondered why JWs changed? Many were once members of the churches. So there is nothing that any church member can tell them which they wouldn't have known.
Love your art work
me 2. chloexjw
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:40)
Jesus is an angel
@@ScottJackson. Angel just means "messenger". Anyone can be a messenger.
@@robynhouse8166 Jesus is the angel in Revelation 22:8,9 KJV
@@robynhouse8166 : Not anyone can be angel, though.
Humans and angels can be used as messengers.
One is what they are and the other is their assignment. Two separate things.
@@tongakhan230 You're right, you really need to use discernment when judging Bible teachings.
God created celestial beings such as the Archangel Michael and earthly creatures such as humans and animals.
However, nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that Jesus is to be equated with a heavenly creature.
I recommend that you carefully research the Epistle to the Hebrews that Paul wrote to enlighten his Jewish confreres about the true identity of Jesus.
IF JW’S ARE SO CONVINCED THAT THEY HAVE THE "TRUTH", THEN WHY ARE THEY TOLD NOT TO READ ANY CRITICISM OF THEIR BELIEFS?
Even the Bible itself encourages us to be a critical thinker:
1 Thessalonians 5:21 (NLT) says, But test everything that is said.
Hold fast to what is good.
Acts 17:11 says, now the latter (Bereans) were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.
1 John 4:1 says, beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expression to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world. (See Deut. 13 and 18)
“THE TRUTH THAT LEADS TO ETERNAL LIFE”
WHY IT IS WISE TO EXAMINE YOUR RELIGION - Excerpts quoted from Chapter 2 pages 11-16
Paragraph 5 says this, we need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated. Are its teachings in full harmony with God’s Word, or are they based on the traditions of men? If we are lovers of the truth, there is nothing to fear from such an examination. It should be the sincere desire of every one of us to learn what God’s will is for us, and then to do it.-John 8:32.
And yet the Watchtower 1986 4/1 pp. 30-31 says in part, Approved association with JW’S requires accepting the entire range of true teachings of the Bible, including those scriptural beliefs that are unique to JW’s
The Watchtower of February 15th, 1981 page 19 says, the “brothers” preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and other Bible writers and so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding becomes clearer to correct views, Proverbs 4:18. (taken Grossly OUT OF Context)
In a more recent Watchtower, the study edition, February 2017 under the heading, Who is leading God’s people today? It says this in paragraph 12, The Governing body is neither inspired nor infallible (NOR are they a Biblically appointed group of men)
Therefore they can (and do) err in directional matters or in organizational direction. (Doctrines of men)
So if the Watchtower publications are "not infallible" and the governing body are "neither inspired nor infallible" then, in other words, they make mistakes, then why can't JW’s question something, when they find a teaching that is clearly wrong based on the Bible.
The reality is, if anyone questions Botchtower and the “Governing Body’s” teachings, even using the Bible, and start talking to other congregation members about it and the elders find out, you could end up in a judicial committee and even disfellowshipped if you persistently carried on questioning a certain belief.
JW’s SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING THEIR TRUST IN THE GOVERNING BODY,
THE BIBLE GIVES CLEAR WARNING ABOUT PUTTING YOUR TRUST IN MEN.
Psalm 146:3 says, Do not put your trust in princes, in earthly men to whom No Salvation belongs.
Jeremiah 17:5 says This is what YAHWEH has said, “Cursed is the able-bodied man who puts his trust in earthling man and actually makes flesh his arm, and whose heart turns away from YAHWEH himself.
Isaiah 2:22 says, Stop trusting in mere humans, who have but a breath in their nostrils. Why hold them in esteem?”
This is why I would strongly recommend that JW’s stop listening to these Self-Exalted, Self Appointed men who call themselves the Governing body- they are not "Spirit directed" and they are Blind guides who are leading others into the Same ditch of Darkness that they themselves have fallen into!!
The “Governing body” have changed their doctrines and teachings on Numerous occasions, such as once teaching that the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the "Great Tribulation" and Armageddon came. That generation clearly passed away in death and the teaching ended up to be a false one. What did they do about that? They came up with the "overlapping generation" Non-Biblical teaching.
This was done out of "necessity" to preserve the 1914 doctrine which clearly shows they are False Prophets!!! And, If the previous 1914 generation teaching turned out to be false, then who is to say that the current "overlapping generation" teaching could also turn out to be a false teaching in the future.
What is "The Real truth" when it comes to the teachings of the men of the “Governing Body” when so-called "truth" can change, time and time and time again!!!
Another reason that one should not trust these Self-Appointed, Self-Exalted Men, is because, as they Admit, they are not prophets; but they have prophesied Falsely (Deut. 13).
They claim to be the leaders of some j-god’s people but give absolutely no evidence that this is true. In Biblical times, YAHWEH used prophets to lead HIS people.
They had proof that God was using them with things such as supernatural miracles and divine signs that “Came to pass”. These men have no such evidence.
For them to say that a j- god (NOT the God of the Bible) has chosen some Man Made Religious Organization who somehow are his "spokesman" is nothing more than a Total Non-Biblical LIE.
Any religious organization could claim the same thing. A truly Wise person would need compelling BIBLICAL evidence that Yahweh is doing something through HIS People!!
“But I fear that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your minds may be seduced from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if a person comes and preaches another Jesus, whom we did not preach, or you receive a different spirit, which you had not received, or a different gospel, which you had not accepted, you put up with it splendidly!”
2 Corinthians 11:3-4 .Requiring people to sell publications is a business.
The Botchtower Babble and Crap Society is a Real Estate and Publishing company and it’s members are not followers of Yeshua the Messiah, they are publishers of Botchtower Babble and crap society Literature, which is something Not found anywhere in Scripture!!
When the JW”s were telling people that the end of the world was coming in 1975 and JW’s sold their houses the money was given to the Organization, and the WT was taking it and investing it on Wall Street at the NY Stock Exchange!!
The Botchtower Babble and crap society were Not selling anything!! They were exploiting their followers for their own personal gain; GREED!!
JW’s are being deceived by a corrupt man made organization controlled by people who are blocking their members from finding the narrow gate. Instead they have created another false gate that will never be opened!!.
Yeshua is the Light of the World, the Word made Flesh, the Living Torah and is God in human flesh. Not a created being. Wrong Messiah = no salvation. Clearly they do Not teach anything close to Biblical truth!!
Did JW’s sell their houses in 1975 because the WT told their members the end of the world was imminent?? YES!!
People gave their money to the WT while the WT was investing some $300 million in the stock market. What would you call such an organization???
Here's why:
_"Any doctrine that will not bear investigation is not a fit tenant for the mind of an honest man. Any man who is afraid to have his doctrine investigated is not only a coward but a hypocrite."_ -R.G. Ingersoll
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@Mr.DC3.1914
Try to follow the bouncing ball, dc. Your post has nothing to do with the discussion.
@@Mr.DC3.1914
These are your best arguments? Ha! So you think "made" is the same as created? Prince Charles was just "made" King, does that mean he was created? NOWHERE in scripture is Jesus ever said to be "created."
You believe Prov 8 is talking about Jesus? If so, do you also believe Jesus is FEMALE? Proverbs 7:4 says "Say to wisdom 'you are my sister.'" See also ch 9:1-4
Begotten also does NOT mean created, it means that when Jesus became human He was not begotten by man but rather by God. I challenge you to answer this, dogs beget dogs, birds beget birds, cats beget cats; what does God beget?
Isaiah 9:6 Why would the Messiah be called "The Mighty God" same as Isaiah 10:20-21 and Jeremiah 32:18? Wouldn't this be blasphemy?
>NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker<
Really? Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Matthew 22:29
Colossians 1:14-17 very clearly shows us that Jesus is THE CREATOR of ALL things, and it is FOR HIM that ALL things were created.
Do you have a WT Interlinear?
@@rustyshadow7 the word MADE has MANY meanings and you cannot deny that MADE also means create. GOD MADE the heavens and the earth, so was made there NOT created? Prov 8 is not talking of the literal wisdom of GOD as GOD has always his Wisdom so it is talking of the figurative wisdom which was MADE/PRODUCED and called Master. Jesus is the Wisdom of GOD in 1 Cor 1:24, and the word Wisdom there is feminine in form just like in Prov 8, so you think Jesus is a woman? Nope. and pls be honest, do u see the word CREATOR in Col 1 applied and mentioned to Jesus. ZERO. in fact Col1 uses the words DIA which means a channel of an act and EN- which means INSTRUMENTALITY which were both applied to Jesus, so Jesus was used by GOD as a channel/instrument in the act of creation. Isa 9:6 also is a PROPHECY And in FUTURE TENSE, so those titles only applied to Jesus after its fulfillment
They don’t have to read the Bible the governing body has read the Bible for them. They just have to shut up and follow instruction, or else the local elders will disfellowship them
If so, why is everyone scared of them?
@@tongakhan230 Obviously, you have not really realized the real reason for this commitment yet.
To protect your fellow human beings from false teachers who pursue only one goal, to instrumentalize them for their personal purposes. (e.g. donations, voluntary work for real estate, free membership recruitment, etc.)
Of course, you are free to continue to make donations to your organization and to carry out cleaning and maintenance work for the Kingdom Halls, whose ownership rights were transferred to the Watchtower Society a few years ago.
Rutherford had already induced his personal vicarious agents to build a "house of princes" with the help of their donations under the pretext that the prophets of pre-Christian times, such as Abraham, Moses and Daniel, would soon return to earth. Finally, Rutherford decided without further ado to take possession of this house of princes himself as a self-proclaimed prince. Truly a noble gesture from a true follower of Christ.
Great conversation!
Great job, it’s a huge effort, and it feels like pushing a boulder uphill.
Really love when u talk to them, its very interesting, continue to do it
Jesus is an angel Revelation 22:8,9 KJV
@@ScottJackson.That's a lie, start at the beginning of the chapter and read in 👉 CONTEXT 👈
@@Jay_Martyr Who is speaking verse 16?
@@ScottJackson. It is Jesus speaking but he says I will send 👉MY👈 angel. It never says he's an angel.
@@Jay_Martyr It is Jesus speaking not the angel he sent
Excellent!
SALVATION WE OWE FROM GOD AND THE LAMB - Rev 7:9-10, SO We need BOTH OF THEM. Both GOD and the lamb are saviors, Rev 7:9-10, even Jesus needed to be saved by the Father from death as the Father is the SOURCE OF LIFE AND SALVATION , Hebrews 5:7 & John 5:26 - THE FATHER GAVE THE SON LIFE.
The cartoons are interesting. LOL!!
Could you make more of these types of videos?
I hope to in the near future. Big plans this summer :)
@@LightoverDarkMinistry Awesome. Love your channel. Your JW doctrine breakdown videos are helping a lot.
This chick straight up sounds like a more polite JW version of Louise from Bobs Burgers.
What may we ask is the real Gospel?
The one taught by the Roman Catholic Church with its Trinity doctrine?
Or which of the babel of Protestant church doctrines? Which incidentally borrowed the RCC Trinity.
The RCC was not good enough. But some of their doctrines were? Strange!
Tonga, what is the gospel? You get one shot to get this right, don’t mess it up, there’s only one and Paul said there isn’t another.
We will use your organization's version of the Bible to examine which gospel needs to be acknowledged by every true worshipper of God, according to the statement of the God-inspired apostle Paul.
1 Corinthians 1,1-2 (NWT Study Edition)
1 Now I remind you, brothers, of t h e g o o d n e w s that I declared to you,a which you also accepted, and for which you have taken your stand.
2 T h r o u g h i t y o u a r e a l s o b e i n g s a v e d if you h o l d f i r m l y to t h e g o o d n e w s I declared to you, unless you became believers for nothing.
As you can see from the above scripture, the apostle Paul summarized the quintessence of the gospel he preached in the 15th chapter of his first letter to the Corinthians.
In this regard, a few days ago I asked your confrere, Matt Gardener, if he could confirm to me that he recognizes the following guidelines of your organization regarding the usage of the Bible in regular missionary service. Unfortunately, I have not yet received an answer from your confrere to this simple question. However, the reasons for his silence are incomprehensible to me, especially since I referred him to unequivocal statements in the literature of your own organization.
Since you are once again appearing on this TH-cam channel as a zealous advocate of the teachings of the Watchtower Society, which claims for itself the privilege of being in full possession of the truth, perhaps you can show your willingness to give me a concrete answer to the following two simple questions.
Questions:
1.) Are you willing to accept the core statements of the apostle Paul in the 15th chapter of his First Epistle to the Corinthians as the only true gospel?
2.) Can you confirm that you recognize the following guidelines of your organization regarding the use or handling of the Bible in regular missionary service as the valid standard for teaching the true gospel?
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“Bearing Thorough Witness” About God’s Kingdom (bt) Chapter 17, p. 134-135, paragraph 6 and 7
6 "Paul followed the standard set by Jesus, w h o u s e d t h e S c r i p t u r e s a s t h e b a s i s f o r h i s t e a c h i n g. During his public ministry, for example, Jesus told his followers that according to the Scriptures, the Son of man must suffer, die, and be raised from the dead. (Matt. 16:21) After his resurrection, Jesus appeared to his disciples. Surely that alone would show that he had spoken the truth. Yet, Jesus gave them more. Concerning what he said to certain disciples, we read: “Starting with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them things pertaining to himself in all the Scriptures.” With what result? The disciples exclaimed: “Were not our hearts burning within us as he was speaking to us on the road, as he was fully opening up the Scriptures to us?”-Luke 24:13, 27, 32.
7. Why is it important to base our teaching on the Scriptures?
7 The message of God’s Word has power. (Heb. 4:12) C h r i s t i a n s t o d a y thus b a s e t h e i r t e a c h i n g s
o n t h a t W o r d , as did Jesus, Paul, and the other apostles. W e t o o reason with people, explain what the Scriptures mean, and p r o v i d e p r o o f o f w h a t w e t e a c h b y o p e n i n g t h e B i b l e to show householders what it says. After all, t h e m e s s a g e w e b r i n g i s n o t o u r s . B y u s i n g t h e B i b l e l i b e r a l l y , we help people to discern that we proclaim, not our own ideas, but the teachings of God. Additionally, we do well to keep in mind that t h e m e s s a g e w e p r e a c h is s o l i d l y f o u n d e d o n G o d ’ s W o r d . It is completely reliable. Does knowing that not give you confidence to share the message boldly, as Paul did?
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@@LightoverDarkMinistry : Gospel means good news. What is the good news that Jesus wanted preached as a sign of the last days? Here it is.
(Matthew 24:14) And this good news OF THE KINGDOM will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and THEN THE END WILL COME.
Can't see any ONE UNITED GROUP fulfilling this other than JWs.
Any other comes to mind?
@@tongakhan230 Since you are specially trained in the virtue of the love of truth, you will certainly not shy away from answering the question of whether the following figures and dates correspond to the actual facts or not. If I am guilty of misrepresentation, I would ask you to draw my attention to that particular mistake.
country population number of Jehova`s Witnesses
China 1.411 Mio not published
Saudi Arabia 35 Mio not published
Afghanistan 39 Mio not published
Iran 84 Mio not published
Iraq 41 Mio not published
Uzbekistan 36 Mio not published
Viet Nam 97 Mio not published
Syria: 17 Mio not published
Egypt 102 Mio not published
India 1.400 Mio 53.000
Pakistan 221 Mio 1.000
Bangladesh 165 Mio 330
Ethiopia 115 Mio 11.000
Burkina Faso 21 Mio 2.000
Indonesia 273 Mio 30.000
Malaysia 32 Mio 5.600
Mali 20 Mio 360
Nepal 29 Mio 2.700
Niger 24 Mio 350
Senegal 16 Mio 1.400
Uganda 42 Mio 9.000
Sri Lanka 21 Mio 3.200
Thailand 70 Mio 5.500
Turkey 85 Mio 5.000
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4.396 Mio 130.440 = 0,003 % of the population
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Mexico 129 Mio 870.000 = 0,67 % of the population
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This means that there are 220 times as many Jehovah's Witnesses in Mexico as in the totality of the countries mentioned above. How is this possible?
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1.) According to the official statistics of your organization, there are fewer Jehovah's Witnesses in the listed countries, where more than half of the world's population lives, than in Germany alone. These countries are characterized by non-Christian faith traditions and undemocratic or partly autocratic structures.
2.) In all countries where the Christian faith is anchored, the proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses in the population is high. (Example: Germany: 84 million inhabitants, around 180,000 Jehovah's Witnesses; Mexico: 129 million inhabitants, around 870,000 Jehovah's Witnesses).
3.) In all countries where the Christian faith is not anchored, the proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses in the total population is low. (Example: Turkey, with 84 million inhabitants comparable to Germany with only about 5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses).
4.) In countries where a non-Christian faith is traditionally deeply rooted, the proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses in the total population is negligible. (Example. India, 1.4 billion inhabitants, 53,000 Jehovah's Witnesses).
Inference:
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The possibility of accepting the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses demonstrably depends on the "factor" of chance and "favors" people who happen to be born in a country where Christian doctrine is traditionally anchored and which is characterized by democratic and constitutional structures.
Question I:
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In light of these objective findings, would you still claim that your organization has carried out its preaching work equally in all countries and corners of the earth and can consider it complete? And that all people who do not belong to your organization deserve eternal destruction in Armageddon? Among them are around 1.5 billion children up to the age of 15 who were born in predominantly poor countries and have to cope with their lives under adverse conditions.
Regardless, preaching any gospel is not crucial, as Paul warned several times against preachers of another gospel. For example, in his letters to the Corinthians and his letter to the Galatians. (2 Corinthians 11:1-10; 1 Corinthians 15:1-2; Galatians 1:6-9)
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For example, is it an integral part of your teaching that in the Parousia of Christ, all Christians will experience simultaneously and collectively the resurrection or transformation of their bodies and the rapture into heaven to Jesus? (1 Thessalonians 4:14-18; 1 Corinthians 15:50-52).
@@tongakhan230 Yeah, Christians, we’ve been preaching the good news of the kingdom for 2000 years.
The struggle I’m having with my mom and sister is, if being a Jehovahs Witness is the only way to salvation. That we are the only ones that make up the Great Crowd who will survive Armageddon and live forever on paradise earth. So I make them think and I say, “Then what happens to everyone who lived before this Organization became into being? Are they automatically dead and not worthy?” They always respond with, “well no, they will come back and be judged for how they lived their life and they get to make their decision.” And that’s when I say, “ok then what’s the point of the Book of Life? If they get to get resurrected and judged, why do you, me or whoever in the “truth” also have to be resurrected for judgement?. I thought we had the truth and we preached our entire lives? Michael Jackson and I receive the same judgement? He lives an immoral life and I lived a righteous life, and we get the same results? How is it that both the unrighteous and righteous are put in the same category?”
I always end with, “Faith in Jesus is then only way to salvation, not by works. If someone from the 1800’s died living a righteous life and followed in the footsteps of Jesus Christ, then that person died as a child of God. Which Jesus states clearly in the Bible. We all have a calling to stand before Jesus, it’s not about the “144,000 or Great Crowd.”
This is one example of many
Everyone will be judged on what they have done second chance is Biblical
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6
one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
GOD and FATHER is OVER ALL and that includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@@Mr.DC3.1914 the Father is omnipresent present in nature
@@ScottJackson. After the earthquake, there was a fire,s but Jehovah was NOT IN THE FIRE - 1KINGS 19:12
@@Mr.DC3.1914 omnipresent Ephesians 4:6 KJV
Did you tell them you were recording this and would put it on TH-cam?
You don't need to. You only need permission to film someone's face and even that's not a legal requirement . It's a public place.
Sorry to disappoint
The meaning of words matter...they sound double minded.
forked-tongue. chloexjw
Three distinct not separate persons. Great witnessing though.
Correct, I misspoke.
Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of *eternal life* to all who trust Him alone for salvation.
This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ (alone) for salvation.
Jesus is an angel called Almighty Alpha and Omega but he is not God
@@ScottJackson. He is God.
200 AD Tertullian "Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6)
200 AD Tertullian "All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11)
200 AD Tertullian "The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7).
200 AD Tertullian "[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12)
200 AD Tertullian "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25)
200 AD Tertullian "As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Against Praxeas, by Tertullian)
200 AD Tertullian "So too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God; and the two are one.... In his birth he is God and man united." (Apology, ch 21)
200 AD Tertullian "There is one only God, but under the following dispensation, or oikonomia, as it is called, that this one only God has also a Son, His Word, who proceeded from Himself, by whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. Him we believe to have been sent by the Father into the Virgin, and to have been born of her - being both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God, and to have been called by the name of Jesus Christ; we believe Him to have suffered, died, and been buried, according to the Scriptures, and, after He had been raised again by the Father and taken back to heaven, to be sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that He will come to judge the quick and the dead; who sent also from heaven from the Father, according to His own promise, the Holy Ghost, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father, and in the Son, and in the Holy Ghost. That this rule of faith has come down to us from the beginning of the gospel, even before any of the older heretics." (Against Praxeas, ch 2)
200 AD Tertullian "That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth; not as if the Father and the Son were not God, nor the Spirit God, and each of them God; but formerly two were spoken of as Gods and two as Lords, so that when Christ would come, he might both be acknowledged as God and be called Lord, because he is the Son of him who is both God and Lord" (Against Praxeas 13:6)
200 AD Tertullian "The Spirit is God, and the Word is God, because proceeding from God, but yet is not actually the very same as He from whom He proceeds.." (Against Praxeas, ch 26)
200 AD Tertullian "For He could not have been the Father previous to the Son, nor a judge previous to sin" (Against Hermogones, Ch 3)
200 AD Tertullian "He will be God, and the Word - the Son of God. We see plainly the twofold state, which is not confounded, but conjoined in One Person - Jesus, God and Man.." (Against Praxeas, ch 27)
200 AD Tertullian "God alone is without sin. The only man who is without sin is Christ; for Christ is also God" (The Soul 41:3)
She said Master worker those are Masonic terms
JW is a masonic religion. It was originally a shareholder ( dividend system ) but they grew too big ( hence the introduction of the great crowd ) they still pay millions to shareholders who are legally known in their documents as " the order "
@@FantasyVisuals You have raised an extremely important issue. The Watchtower Society was founded in the 19th century as a business company in the legal form of a stock company. According to commercial law, this company must appoint a legal representative, namely the president and a vice president, and hold an annual general meeting.
In this context, every stock company is obliged under commercial law to prepare an annual report. This annual report shows the assets and liabilities as well as the annual profit generated.
In this sense, the Watchtower Society is also obliged to prepare an annual balance sheet and to hold an annual general meeting. (see the following Watchtower article.)
Against this background, the following questions inevitably arise:
1.) What do the annual financial statements look like?
2.) Who are the shareholders?
3.) Will dividends be paid to shareholders and, if so, in what amount?
The Watchtower article explains that the number of shareholders was limited to 500 persons by a resolution of the general meeting in 1944. Against this background, the Company would be obliged to disclose the names of these shareholders to its members and the public upon request.
Howewer, none of the elders I know could give me an answer to these most justified questions.
This Watchtower article also states in a boastful tone that the Governing Body has already been appointed over "all possessions" regarding Jesus' statement in Matthew 24:45-46, knowing full well that Jesus also emphasized in this speech that he would not perform this act after his coming.
Jesus Himself predicted in His end-time discourse that His coming will be visible to all the tribes of the earth. (Matthew 24:30).
The self-proclaimed leadership class of the Watchtower Society, in an act of self-empowerment, claims this position for itself even before the epochal event of Jesus' coming on the clouds has actually occurred.
I have never experienced such a form of self-glorification.
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Watchtower January 15 2001
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A N N U A L m e e t i n g s of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania h a v e b e e n h e l d s i n c e
J a n u a r y o f 18 8 5 . When the ingathering of anointed Christians was underway in the late 19th century, the directors and officers of this corporation had the heavenly hope. In fact, this has almost always been the case.
There was one exception. In 1940, H a y d e n C . C o v i n g t o n -then the Society’s legal counsel and one of the “other sheep,” with the earthly hope-was e l e c t e d a d i r e c t o r o f t h e S o c i e t y . (John 10:16) He served as the Society’s vice president from 1942 to 1945. At that time, Brother Covington stepped aside as a director to comply with what then seemed to be Jehovah’s will-that all directors and officers of the Pennsylvania corporation be anointed Christians. Lyman A. Swingle replaced Hayden C. Covington on the board of directors, and Frederick W. Franz was elected vice president.
Why did Jehovah’s servants believe that all t h e d i r e c t o r s a n d o f f i c e r s of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania should be anointed Christians? Because at the time, the b o a r d o f d i r e c t o r s and officers of the Pennsylvania corporation were closely identified with the G o v e r n i n g B o d y of Jehovah’s Witnesses, which has always been made up entirely of spirit-anointed men.
A Historic Annual Meeting
At the a n n u a l m e e t i n g held on October 2, 1944, in Pittsburgh, the members of the Pennsylvania corporation adopted six resolutions amending its charter. The charter had provided that v o t i n g s h a r e s be issued to contributors of funds to the Society’s work, but the third amendment eliminated that provision. A report on that annual meeting noted: “ M e m b e r s h i p i n t h e S o c i e t y will be limited to n o t m o r e t h a n 5 0 0 . . . Each one chosen must be a full-time servant of the Society or a part-time servant of a company [congregation] of Jehovah’s witnesses and must show the spirit of the Lord.”
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A Special Announcement
AT THE conclusion of the annual meeting of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania on October 7, 2000, a special announcement was made by the chairman, J o h n E . B a r r of the Governing Body. This announcement built further on discourses given earlier that day by Theodore Jaracz and Daniel Sydlik.-See pages 12-16 and 28-31 of this magazine.
Making a very significant point, Brother Barr stated: “‘The f a i t h f u l a n d d i s c r e e t s l a v e ’ and its Governing Body have had entrusted to them interests that are higher and far more encompassing than those granted to legal corporations. Set out in the chartered purposes of each of such entities are matters that are limited in their scope. Our Master, Jesus Christ, however, h a s a p p o i n t e d t h e f a i t h f u l s l a v e class o v e r a l l h i s ‘ b e l o n g i n g s ,’ or Kingdom interests here on earth.”-Matthew 24:45-47.
Concerning the Pennsylvania corporation, Brother Barr added: “Ever since its incorporation in 1884, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania has played an important role in our modern-day history. Still, it is merely a legal instrument available for use by ‘the faithful and discreet slave’ when it is necessary.”
In their discourses, Brothers Sydlik and Jaracz had explained that the fact that “the faithful and discreet slave” h a s b e e n e n t r u s t e d w i t h a l l of the Lord’s earthly b e l o n g i n g s does not prevent the slave class from allowing qualified men from among the “other sheep” to care for certain routine administrative responsibilities. (John 10:16) Nor is there any Scriptural reason to insist that all or any of the directors of the legal entities used by Jehovah’s Witnesses be anointed Christians.
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All other things is in the Greek
Welp. Ya ain’t Jeff lol
WILL THE WICKED be resurrected acc to the Bible? HOW MANY FACE does GOD have if he is three persons? Do yo use I am, me and myself for ONE LITERAL PERSON or three persons?
Will the wicked be resurrected ACCORDING TO THE WATCHTOWER? Does God use the words "us" and "our"? God said "Let US make man in OUR image"
So how many images does God have ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE? And WHO is the image of the "invisible God" ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE?
@@rustyshadow7 ACC TO THE BIBLE, the WICKED wilL NOT BE RAISED UP and that is not from the WT. HOW MANY FACEs do GOD have if he is three persons?
@@rustyshadow7 btw, a teacher says LET US make this project, do you actually believe automatically that the person the teacher is asking is another teacher or probably a student?
@@Mr.DC3.1914
According to THE WATCHEOWER the wicked WILL be raised!
WT 7/1879, p.8
WT 8/1/1965, p.479
LIVE FOREVER, early editions p.179
INSIGHT, Vol. 2, p.985
So the WT DISAGREES with THE BIBLE?
So who do YOU agree with, WT or BIBLE?
@mrdc1914
If a teacher says "Let us make this project" is the teacher involved in the making of the project, yes or no?
Also, is the student less human than the teacher, or are they EQUALLY human? Let US see if you have the guts to answer this.
The Bible says that a woman should submit to her husband in everything. Does that mean if he told her to help him rob a bank would that be a part of that everything? Who told you to call God a Trinity? Are you saying no to the God of our Lord and Master Jesus Christ?
The Bible says that husband and wife submit to each other.
The Bible teaches Christ is LORD.
@@mattmurdock2868 yes a husband should love his wife as he loves himself. He should be the head of the woman in love
@@bretherenlee1404
And a husband should submit to his wife...the Bible teaches husband and wife submit one to another.
Is this teaching inconvenient for you?
Why do you only teach woman submit to man.?
@@mattmurdock2868 let me get this right in my mind, are you saying the Man is not head over the woman? 1cor 11:3
@@mattmurdock2868 1peter 3:1-7
I truly hope you read this because something that was a stepping stone to my leaving was that a woman I was witnessing to at the door made a comment to me when I said that I was doing what the early Christians did in preaching. She said no. They let the holy spirit lead them. They did follow maps and keep records and make call backs like a salesman. That's what you do.
The possibility of working out salvation without faith is not there.
Both go hand in hand.
James 2:18 Nevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.”
20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS USELESS?
Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but ONLY THE ONE DOING the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.
God will not permit his people JWs to get persecuted, assaulted, thrown into jails and some killed if everyone claiming faith can sit at home and be saved.
Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is the Prince of Peace, but when Jesus arrived, He said, Do not think i came to bring peace, but Swords,His symbolical words, the cause of the rise of Fake christians,, Mat, 10:34-35, but the apostles who were told by Jesus about the SECRETS OF KINGDOM did not hesitate to preach, that Jesus was killed, but Jehovah raised him up, They even some of them only a fishermen, they Know, Jehovah is the only one who can raised from the graves,Acts, 5:28-31 /Deut,32:39 /1st,Sam, 2:6, /2nd,Kings, 5:7,,, Jesus revealed to them all secrets exclusively, @ Mat, 13:10-11 /Mark, 4:34,
I'm so glad I don't believe in any of this God crap.
Jesus is not ‘God crap’; he’s the Way, the Truth and the Life. The JWs on the other hand are a satanically-inspired deceptive cult, designed to deceive the unwary. Also with respect, you believing or not believing something doesn’t establish its objective validity or not. Jesus’ existence is a totally established historical fact.....the question is not whether he existed, but WHO and WHAT was he? In my case, I met him 31 years ago when close to suicide, so I’m not at the mercy of those atheists who deny the existence of God. My instant deliverance from panic attacks, anxiety state and depression, plus 31 years of daily experience is all the proof I need. ‘Religion’ serves up a lot of ‘God crap’ that’s true, but the presence of the counterfeit establishes the existence of the true. Shalom in Christ.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Who’s ur mediator?
Also, according to scriptures, in whose name is one is supposed to be baptized in?
Where does the bible teach that you are to follow 2 Gods as required by the JW religion ?
D C1 follows the words of Jehovah =1 God
D C1 follows the words of Jesus = 1 God
D C1 follows 2 Gods and the words of "his 2 Gods"
D C1 follows a form of Polytheism called Henotheism.
D C1 wrote this very morning to Beau Read stating
"Jesus is NOT called the true God in the BIble nor is he a false god, as the word theos/elohim has MANY meanings, SO JESUS IS A GOD"...
D C1 believes in more than 1 God.
Christians believe in 1 God , D C1 unfortunately believes in 2 Gods.
@@RowanTasmanian you are so BLIND, there is ONE GOD, THE CREATOR, nobody is GOD like him. Jesus was/is NOT GOD, the Creator, but a god that was MADE/CREATED. that's why the term GOD of gods, there is ONE GOD, THE FATHER (and excluding the SON), 1 Cor 8:6. all the rest are so called gods. that's why the term GOD of gods. you cannot accept that FACT. answer this, HOW MANY FACES does GOD have if he is THREE persons? SKIPPING AGAIN ? still BLASPHEMOUS AND making GOD a pagan trinity and LIKE SATAN, REPENT, ANTICHRIST! is a CRANE A REAL ANIMAL? skipping again, blind one!
@@bygeorgehemayberite8385 what NAME is that? notice it is SINGULAR. What is the NAME of the SON, what is the NAME of the Father?
Jehovah's Witnesses are commanded by Jehovah God to preach the good news of the Kingdom in all the world so that people of all nations will have an opportunity to know of God’s new world. (Matthew 24:14; 28: 19, 20) Jehovah God is now offering you an opportunity for life in his new world, where he will bless faithful people with the desires of their hearts. (Psalm 10:17; 27:4) What is the desire of your heart? 💖
Other Christians have done Matthew 24.