If we stay healthy, I think we'll have 2 to 3 wins more than our record last year. I think we'll be in the second place in the North again cuz lord knows it's gonna be Ravens first place yet again
Am I still the only one who realizes that the two Biggest Threat QBs in their division were both injured in games against the Ravens? What they did to the Steelers was worse: they _didn't_ injure any of their QBs.
I am absolutely blown away by how in depth your analysis is. I clicked on this because I'm a browns fan, now I'm going to subscribe and watch the rest of what you got. It's clear that you did your homework, and put a lot of thought and hard work into your video.
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@@Aubtoonice17 flacco was on pace to throw for 45 tds and lead the nfl. Infact he led the nfl in passing yards the 5 weeks he started. He threw 13 tds to 9 total turnovers in the regular season only 1 pick six... compared to deshaun throwing 7 tds and having 6 total turnover, 3 being returned for tds. Flacco had the better td to turnover ratio.
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This is by far the best Analysis of the Browns i have seen this year so kudos to you! I think theyll win the AFC North and they might go to the AFC Title game thks season
Have the Browns EVER won the AFC North? Didn’t think so. And I don’t think that questionable character under center will make it happen for them either
Dude is a Vikings fan. He hates the packers and is biased against them. I don’t blame him the Vikings have been the packers bitch for the last 30+ years!
Yall 🤡 always hatin on Watson. He's NEVER THROWN 10 INTS IN 6 GAMES... (Yall always FAIL to mention how FLACCO crashed out in the playoffs) Somehow also forgetting the teams he won against--Jax-(hurt Trevor Lawrence), Chi-(Self explanatory), Hou-(w/o Stroud), NYJ-(w/o Rodgers) & Cin-(W/O Burrow) giving all kind of credit to saving a season he NEVER saved. We won with backups the ENTIRE year. I've never see a Qb throw 2 Ints per game & fans STILL acted like it was good... Flacco crashed & burned 💥 just like we knew he would. 😂
@@henrygreene7274 flacco lead dedhaun in every stat my guy. Yards, tds, passer rating qbr, pff grade. And he had a better td to turnover ratio than watson flacco threw 13 tds and had 9 turnovers. Watson threw 7 tds and had 6 turnovers. Flacco was better in every way my guy. Flacco won a nfl award. Watson did not. Flacco averaged 323 yards per game, watson averaged 185. It was night and day. And don't forget watson had 3 turnovers in a single game vs Pittsburgh... and two of those three watson turnovers were returned for tds. The box score don't lie flacco was better. Watson has been the joke of the nfl last 2 years.
@@pauljewett8844lol if ur only defense is one half of a football game over 2 seasons, there is a big problem. Watson ranks 53rd in pff grade among qualified passers over the last 2 years. 53rd!
@@anthonypa8045 ok fine it’s not. He still only lost 1 game he started last season, and before you say, “oh that’s because his surrounding cast is so loaded” then sure I don’t care. Needless to say, we win with Watson, and at the end of the day I just want to watch the browns win weather Watson is throwing 350+ yards a game or 100. Once again, you can only point to one game where you can say Deshawn lost it for us last year. You can do that two games with Joe Flacco
Getting Watson was such an awful trade they gave the Texans a bright future and a massive contract to a player with a ton of off the field red flags for a player who doesn’t play much and when he does play is worse than his backups and the Browns would be better without him
As soon as they didn't resign Joe Flacco... They kissed their chance at a Superbowl good bye. He wasn't great but he was a lot more aggressive than Watson. And considering Nick Chubb may miss a lot more games due to his massive injury makes a situation even more dire. The only way I can see this turn around is if Dont'a Foreman can breakout like he did with Panthers. But on the Bears last season it seems like either he was recovering from an injury or the Bears didn't wanna start him. Can't really say why. My theory is it's a combination of Luke Getsy being an Idiot and a combination of Chicago Bears purposely tanking to get picks. So I see no SB in the Browns Future unless Chubb come back even 80 percent. Which it's not looking good right now.
They could have had Fields for a mid-round pick _next_ year. I'll argue about how good Fields is if anyone takes the bait, but it's not the point. the point is Fields _can threaten_ to take Watson's job! & now that $ isn't an incentive _that _*_alone_* makes the mid-round pick worth it. The problem here is that ownership Was Determined That the amount of $ they spent means Watson Should Start. "So why bring in any other QB who can potentially compete to start?" As my name here implies, having such Blinding Paradigms blinds people to reality. Like that he's old, out of shape & recovering from surgery *on his **_throwing shoulder!!!_*
@@UsefulPreconceivedNotions Yeah honestly at this point I thought they would have negotiated to try to get DtR or extend Flacco for Longer. They realistically should have kept Jacobe Brisette and he would have been dirt Cheap. They had so much QB rotation they should have at least secured their backup. In reality Justin Fields would have been amazing for the Browns because although he is not the best pocket passer he doesn't need to be. Kevin Stefanski is a great at designing run Games and if he just made running schemes for Fields and maybe Foreman then this could have easily been the best running game in the league
@@maskedman5657 According to wiki, DTR isn't desired by *any* NFL teams right now. I don't expect any Written Words to end his career by posting why. Watson has had to learn self-discipline & doesn't lack motivation. But I can't see how having a Real Threat to take away his starting job would fail to make him shift into a higher gear. As for Fields, I won't take the time to prove that *_ALL_* the things said about him are false. But I will take the time to prove *one* just to point something out. I realize most NFL fans don't have the time to find good analysis channels let alone then go through the videos. But we allow social media to shape how we view the Entire World WAY too much. So this is my tiny counter to some of that. "Fields can't read defenses." This was proven false _with stats_ by no one less than Brett Kollmann th-cam.com/video/QuhUbISnr8s/w-d-xo.html. The other thing I'll link also helps prove that meme wrong. It's Fields' college highlights spliced with those of Caleb Williams th-cam.com/video/5JO1PsupF_U/w-d-xo.html.; Williams isn't being touted as being generational because of his stats. If he was, then Jayden Daniels would be gettin' that. Instead, like Justin Herbert, people claim to be able to See His Greatness _despite_ not having the best stats or W/L record. Then how come Fields is better than him *at everything?* Count e'm if you need to, Williams misses receivers by miles even when not pressured. But even without that, Fields throws low-flying missiles that don't give defenders chances to adjust to & make plays on. Then they land right in the hands of his receivers in stride. He has near-Aaron Rodgers level accuracy but gets the ball there quicker as well, which requires a stronger arm. & also requires the ability to Read Defenses. How did everyone _miss_ that? By depending on social media memes to tell us what is & isn't reality.
Watson has shown he no longer wants to play, Browns did Browns things and gave him every reason not to try any longer. Sad for the fans, because other than Watson they could go far.
What even is this comment? This team Watson is about to play for is the most talented team he’s ever been apart of. He was suspended for his first season and broke his shoulder after his best game of the season where he went on the road and beat Baltimore, so what indication of him not wanting to play are you getting? Browns have been one of the best ran franchises in th league since we got AB and Stefanski so this comment is just wrong in so many ways.
Dude screw the browns and fans. At a point leave a team that hires an overrated sexual predator. Getting rid of baker was the first dumb choice. Cuz for what Odell’s dad said? Odell was trash
Are we sure Chubb is going to be the same back this upcoming season? As a Steelers fan he one of the best rushers I’ve ever seen but I don’t think there’s any guarantee that he’ll have the same burst and shiftiness on that knee
Watson has been pedestrian with decent streches. The team is 8-4 when he plays. Many of you don't watch the games & just stat watch. Put away yall personal bias.
If Nick Chubb isn't comeback player of the year, the Browns will be 3rd or 4th in the division. Watson is mediocre at this point, and his lack of snaps over the last few years was obvious in games last season.
It relies on the whole team, QB on this team is always next man up as we saw all season last year, just need a guy who can run the offense and the will win 11
I mentioned this in a video on another channel, but I have a hunch the Browns are due for a decline, which is not the fault of the players or coaches. It's the obvious elephant in the room: Watson's contract and the amount of cap space it occupies. That is nearly one quarter of the allocated cap space for one guy who has not really lived up to expectations. It's pretty insane that compared to Watson, who has a $63M cap hit for another 2-3 years, guys like Cooper and Garrett have cap hits ranging in the $20M range, although the latter's is justified. As for the predicted decline, it's mainly from retaining draftees like Jedrick Wills and Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, who are due for big paydays next season. Amari Cooper is also looking to cash in elsewhere if the Browns can't match his demands. The Browns have invested in their offensive line and defense, but if any of their core pieces go down with injury, the Browns need to get the best value for whoever they bring in, cause they have very little cap room to spare. Plus, with this current arms race going on in the AFC North, one team inevitably has to take the short straw, and as much as I want it to be the Steelers (just to shut up the Yinzers), knowing the penchant for gross mismanagement from their front office, I fear it will be the Browns taking a step back.
I’m a diehard Browns fan since 1985. Hot take, the Browns defense will be exposed this season as overrated. They lucked out sooooo much last year. They beat the Bengals wk 1 last year with a hobbled Burrow and bad weather. Beat the Colts with help from officials. Beat the Niners minus their LT Williams and McCaffrey, and needed a missed 40 yd FG. Beat the Cards minus Murray. The Texans minus Stroud. I hope I’m wrong, and maybe I have PTSD from so many terrible Browns seasons, but I’m still firmly in a wait and see kinda mood.
As a die hard ravens fan the browns are our biggest threat for us not repeating as AFC north champs. Ravens winning it again but the browns will most likely finish second again
@@vancecarlson1672 pissburg will finish last again. Unless Russ or Fields are actually the QB of the future. And I think the bengals are overhyped and their defense will be their downfall
@@angelspike I played defensive back in college and while; I am on the defenses side. I know holding and pass interference when I see it. You're the one mentioning " preferential treatment" that's just ur guilt speaking 😂 ....
Deshaun Watson has not worked out at all in Cleveland. If things go really bad this year, he, Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski should be out in Cleveland.
Stefanski is the only person in the organization getting it done. I can see ditching Andrew Berry given that he was the GM that did the Mayfield for Watson trade, which has likely cost the Browns two playoff runs.
Stefanksi just signed an extension and played no part in the Watson deal, and he's a Top 10 head coach. There's no reason on God's green earth his seat should even be warm. I don't miss the days of Shermur, Chud, Jackson, etc etc etc. Browns finally have a borderline great coach. Keep him at all cost.
There are some excellent, well informed points in that video. Unfortunately, the clickbaity title one is the exception. First of all, last season showed, that the Browns can have success, irregardless of who plays QB. They beat the 49ers with PJ Walker, who threw for 192 yds with 0 TDs and 2 INTs! What else is there to say... The "Watson needs to step up" narrativ is just tiresome. Sure, for all that money he gets you would appreciate some more games like against the Ravens (and a lot less injuries). But trying to compare his 2022 season with 2023 and not seeing much of a difference is wild: He was good in the opener against the Bengals considering the conditions! Please rewatch and remind yourself of how awful Joe Burrow was in that game and he got all the excuses. Game 2 against the Steelers was rough. But almost everyone sucked in that one. The Titans game was a good one from Watson. It is the one nobody talks about and I don't know why. I think everyone agrees that the Colts game doesn't count. The Cardinals were absolutety destroyed by the defense and then there's the Ravens game. So yeah, the Steelers game sucked. Brett Kollmann recently had a video about Peyton Manning and how every QB sucks now and then. The rest of his 2023 season was solid to good. So for me the question is not can he step up but can he stay healthy. Other than that, really great video! A lot deeper than the copycat takes from your average ESPN/NFL Network etc talking heads season previews. Could have mentioned Ken Dorsey though. He will create a tailored offense for Watson, the first time in Watson's career that is. This could lead the offense to another level. I don't say Watson can't improve, just that he does not have to for the Browns to be successfull ;)
Unfortunately the box score don't lie, he has only completed 59% of his passes over the last 2 years ranking him 30th in the nfl. He ranks 53rd in pff grade among qualified passers over the last two years and 38th in qbr. These are all efficiency stats. And only track the games he plays in. And it shows us that he has been one of the worst and most inaccurate passes in the nfl since coming to cleveland. The qb we traded away has been way better in every single traditional passing stat including these. Makes you wonder why we traded 3 years of first round picks and 6 total for a worse qb. These are just facts. Can't be 'hating' if it's 100% true
@@anthonypa8045 You're right, he was not great. And you're also right in asking if all of it was worth it (my oppinion: no, definetely not worth it!). But that was not what my comment was about. My two cents in a nutshell were 1) The Browns can have success without elite QB play and 2) Watson's 2023 season was better than his 2022 season. These were referred to conclusions from the video I did disagree with. Nothing about hate, nothing about QB power rankings.
@@philippgunzel I agree we definitely can be a 10 or 11 win team if deshaun doesn't play elite. They proved that last year winning 7 of their 11 wins without watson.. but could you imagine if he would just play like the top 5 qb we thought we were getting? This team could be a superbowl team. Really need him to step it up. At least to a above average level if we want to make a deep playoff run.
Yup... Everything comes down to DW4. No excuses now. He's back, he's healthy. He just gotta put in the work. It's easy to write him off after the lackluster times he performed before but I still think he did decently well all things considered last year before he got hurt. He showed flashes so if he just protects his body, he'll do more this year. Biggest thing is, EVERYONE needs to stay healthy this year
Watson has been terrible since 2020. They just rated him a 74 overall in madden this year. LMAO. hes the 24th best QB in the game, Which is right where Chris sims and PFF put him on there QB rankings. Dude is washed! Outplayed by 40 year old Flacco last year.
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We won 11 games with FIVE QBs in the 2020s NFL. If our whole team wasnt injured we would have been the 1 seed. We did that despite massage watson. Everyone thinks we will be worse with everybody back. I swear theres some sort of matrix command to hate on cleveland and it restarts every summer.
I get the Browns had to get rid of Baker because they just weren't clicking, but maaaaaaaaaaaan did they make the worst decision humanly imaginable to replace him. Winston totally is better than Watson, hope he's starting soon.
Ayy Titans fan here, err time them Browns play us and beat us they have a successful year and make tha playoffs. They gon lose to my Titans next time they play em’
Why would you be happy about famous jamous being signed? He wasn't that good last year and worse of all he was extremely toxic. You already have a highly contentious situation with Watson starting. If they lose a few in a row,it's likely to snowball. I would only sign him if he was meant to be the starter, I don't want him scheming with other disgruntled. Maybe his behavior was exclusive to his time in Nola. I would be worried about his behavior though, he wasn't close to professional last year. Even backups have an important role. Help the starter, maybe you seen something they didn't. I like Derek carr and what he tried to do to him is messed up. Plus defying a coach even if it is to get a player a td is never good.
Great video brother. Keep it up! I used to like the browns but every year they seem to get the benefit of the doubt going into every szn bc of their “great roster” without acknowledging how much better it could have been without the Watson fleece and his terrible contract…and just for them to fall flat on their face with no culture is just awesome to watch as a Texans fan. Browns fans were on Cowboys level delusional going into the playoffs just to get smacked by the Texans who made the right move by trading their own draft pick instead of the browns to get Will Anderson. I sincerely want to thank the browns front office and fans from the bottom of my ❤ thanks for putting my franchises rebuild into hyperspeed!
Why didn't you show some stats to prove your point? I'm guessing because you don't have any, so I'll provide some: Points per drive: Ken Dorsey: 2.45 Joe Brady: 2.27 Yards per play: Ken Dorsey: 6.0 Joe Brady: 5.4 Pass success rate: Ken Dorsey: 52.3% Joe Brady: 45.6% Rush success rate: Ken Dorsey: 46.1% Joe Brady: 44.5% Stefon Diggs’ per game average with Ken Dorsey at OC: 7.3 catches 86.8 receiving yards 7 touchdowns Diggs’ per game average with Joe Brady at OC: 4.9 catches 43.1 receiving yards 1 touchdown - In 2022 the Bills were: 6361 total yards (4th in the NFL) 6.1 yards per play (2nd in the NFL) 4192 passing yards (8th in the NFL) 6.8 yards per attempt (6th in the NFL) 2232 rushing yards (9th in the NFL) 5.2 yards per attempt (tied-2nd in the NFL) - As of Week 10 in 2023 they were: 1st in success rate 3rd in EPA per play 4th in QB rating 3rd in yards per play 3rd in TDs 2nd in 3rd down conversion % 3rd in red zone efficiency The reason the Bills did better after Dorsey left was because Josh Allen was turning the ball over less. That's it.
@@bigredracingdog466 Cool. But those stats mean nothing when you look at the teams they played With Dorsey, they lost to the Jets, Patriots, and Broncos, and barely beat the Giants With Brady, they beat the Chiefs and blew out the Cowboys If you seriously think Dorsey will succeed with Watson when he couldn’t with Allen, while having the hardest schedule in the league, you’re in for disappointment
@@laynesmancave Dorsey didn't lose those games. Allen did. He threw 3 INTs vs. the Jets (and lost a fumble), 1 vs. the Pats (and lost a fumble), and 2 in the Denver game (and lost a fumble).
This team's rebuild was incredible except for one singular mistake and it's gonna ruin this championship window. They're the Browns, it's like it was destined to happen!
Except they finished with an 11 win season while being one of the most injured teams in the league, the roster is better now than it was than, the schedule isn’t that much harder, explain how they will be worse?
@@Epvil no, the team is incredible. im saying the one singular mistake was the Watson contract handcuffing them to a mediocre and, so far, regressing QB. Which, to be fair, is really only something you'd see in hindsight. In the moment the trade happened it wasn't so bad.
I don't. He has shown us nothing great since the 2020 season. 4 years ago now. He has been one of the worst qbs in the nfl since coming to cleveland and the stats back that 100%
I think they’re gonna finish last in the AFC North. Watson isn’t that good enough anymore and after they make the playoffs one season, they fall apart the very next season.
@@Epvilnot wrong though. Like 2020 they were a playoff calibre team and then the next 2 years were below 0.500. Even as a steeler fan last in the afc north isn’t a bad thing because we were all above 0.500 last season
@@Thomas-lc8bh Yeah I mean the only way how the Browns won’t finish last is if Watson is good but he isn’t. They should’ve brought back Joe Flacco to be their starter.
Anyone else still actively hoping for Watson's downfall? Granted, I'm a Steelers fan, so of course I want the Browns to suck, but it's been poetic justice that Watson has been so ineffective in Cleveland. That amount of guaranteed money when you're a proven shitty human being was shameful from the start.
This is the first and last time I will agree with the stealers on anything. People often think it’s cool between Cincinnati and Cleveland but honestly the hatred for the clown show up north is as palpable as my disdain for Pittsburgh.
Terrible take 😂😂😂 browns was able to win with 5 different qbs with c+ d- qB play with hella injuries now they’ll b back healthy. An the browns don’t need superhero play from the qb because the whole team is like dat. This should b browns 3rd super bowl in the last 8 years but the refs continue to cheat in the most critical moments this year the browns will dominate every team only way browns get a lost is by crucial injuries or refs blatantly outright cheating .
I wish some of the Browns fans would switched their allegiance to the Squealers or rat birds all they do is infect everyone else around them with their negativity
All my buddies are browns fans, all i hear is “its our year” then they always dissapoint. Sometimes i feel bad for them cuz there fans are so loyal and passionate. Theyre just gonna browns
Watson is going to be the death of this team. He doesn't care about football anymore and is only waiting for his contract to end so he can go sit on a beach like Hans Gruber from Die Hard and earn 20%.
How far do you think the Browns go this year? 🤔
If we stay healthy, I think we'll have 2 to 3 wins more than our record last year. I think we'll be in the second place in the North again cuz lord knows it's gonna be Ravens first place yet again
Watson will only play 10 games. They might win a playoff game. Prob not.
Am I still the only one who realizes that the two Biggest Threat QBs in their division were both injured in games against the Ravens?
What they did to the Steelers was worse: they _didn't_ injure any of their QBs.
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They'll win the division.... ravens take wildcard....
I am absolutely blown away by how in depth your analysis is. I clicked on this because I'm a browns fan, now I'm going to subscribe and watch the rest of what you got. It's clear that you did your homework, and put a lot of thought and hard work into your video.
Thank you so much Park that really means a lot!!!
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In Flaccos defense they did tell him just sling it up if no one’s open
Flacco still led deshaun in passer rating, qbr, pff grade, yards , td, and td to turnover ratio
@@anthonypa8045Flacco was also on pace for 22+ ints if he played the full season . To have 10 ints in the easy schedule he played against is awful
Not including the 4 pick 6’s he had , 2 being back2back plays in playoffs
@@Aubtoonice17 flacco was on pace to throw for 45 tds and lead the nfl. Infact he led the nfl in passing yards the 5 weeks he started. He threw 13 tds to 9 total turnovers in the regular season only 1 pick six... compared to deshaun throwing 7 tds and having 6 total turnover, 3 being returned for tds. Flacco had the better td to turnover ratio.
Not saying ur wrong, but this is the first I'm hearing about this. It sounds ridiculous!
Jus wanna comment and say thank you for makin these videos and how consistent you upload them, always comes in clutch for my lunch break at work. Keep up the good stuff man
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This is by far the best Analysis of the Browns i have seen this year so kudos to you! I think theyll win the AFC North and they might go to the AFC Title game thks season
Thank you so much!
Have the Browns EVER won the AFC North? Didn’t think so. And I don’t think that questionable character under center will make it happen for them either
Not at all upset by the video but I'm not gonna lie i thought the packers video was gonna be next lmao
He also skipped Houston 🤷🏻♂️
Dude is a Vikings fan. He hates the packers and is biased against them. I don’t blame him the Vikings have been the packers bitch for the last 30+ years!
Packers haven’t re signed love yet and just had a big extension on Clark. Maybe waiting on things to settle a bit.
I think he might be doing all his predicted division winners last
Vikings fan skipping the Packers….. weird lol
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I will laugh like I have never laughed before if Jameis Winston has a career year in 2024 while Watson gets benched.
Could happen, watson played like trash last year then flacco came in and led nfl in yards over the 5 weeks he played cpoy too
Yall 🤡 always hatin on Watson. He's NEVER THROWN 10 INTS IN 6 GAMES... (Yall always FAIL to mention how FLACCO crashed out in the playoffs) Somehow also forgetting the teams he won against--Jax-(hurt Trevor Lawrence), Chi-(Self explanatory), Hou-(w/o Stroud), NYJ-(w/o Rodgers) & Cin-(W/O Burrow) giving all kind of credit to saving a season he NEVER saved. We won with backups the ENTIRE year. I've never see a Qb throw 2 Ints per game & fans STILL acted like it was good... Flacco crashed & burned 💥 just like we knew he would. 😂
@@henrygreene7274 flacco lead dedhaun in every stat my guy. Yards, tds, passer rating qbr, pff grade. And he had a better td to turnover ratio than watson flacco threw 13 tds and had 9 turnovers. Watson threw 7 tds and had 6 turnovers. Flacco was better in every way my guy. Flacco won a nfl award. Watson did not. Flacco averaged 323 yards per game, watson averaged 185. It was night and day. And don't forget watson had 3 turnovers in a single game vs Pittsburgh... and two of those three watson turnovers were returned for tds. The box score don't lie flacco was better. Watson has been the joke of the nfl last 2 years.
Winston is really good. Does turn it over a bit but I like him. He's got experience and is not afraid to throw.
Honestly i would love it, Jameis is hillarious and with this team I think he can absolutely manage
My mom has a pair of bell bottom jeans that are less washed than Deshaun
lmao true story
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Even though he played a perfect half on a broken shoulder, on the road, against the SECOND best defense in the league, when we last saw him?
@@pauljewett8844lol if ur only defense is one half of a football game over 2 seasons, there is a big problem. Watson ranks 53rd in pff grade among qualified passers over the last 2 years. 53rd!
@@anthonypa8045 ok fine it’s not. He still only lost 1 game he started last season, and before you say, “oh that’s because his surrounding cast is so loaded” then sure I don’t care. Needless to say, we win with Watson, and at the end of the day I just want to watch the browns win weather Watson is throwing 350+ yards a game or 100. Once again, you can only point to one game where you can say Deshawn lost it for us last year. You can do that two games with Joe Flacco
Getting Watson was such an awful trade they gave the Texans a bright future and a massive contract to a player with a ton of off the field red flags for a player who doesn’t play much and when he does play is worse than his backups and the Browns would be better without him
Agree, swapping baker for watson looks like one of the worst moves the browns ever made.
It’ll pay dividends this year, watch.
D4 had great games against the Cards and Titans too!
You know its bad when hienz field say "awe" loudly over a browns player
As soon as they didn't resign Joe Flacco... They kissed their chance at a Superbowl good bye. He wasn't great but he was a lot more aggressive than Watson. And considering Nick Chubb may miss a lot more games due to his massive injury makes a situation even more dire.
The only way I can see this turn around is if Dont'a Foreman can breakout like he did with Panthers. But on the Bears last season it seems like either he was recovering from an injury or the Bears didn't wanna start him. Can't really say why.
My theory is it's a combination of Luke Getsy being an Idiot and a combination of Chicago Bears purposely tanking to get picks.
So I see no SB in the Browns Future unless Chubb come back even 80 percent. Which it's not looking good right now.
They could have had Fields for a mid-round pick _next_ year. I'll argue about how good Fields is if anyone takes the bait, but it's not the point. the point is Fields _can threaten_ to take Watson's job! & now that $ isn't an incentive _that _*_alone_* makes the mid-round pick worth it.
The problem here is that ownership Was Determined That the amount of $ they spent means Watson Should Start. "So why bring in any other QB who can potentially compete to start?" As my name here implies, having such Blinding Paradigms blinds people to reality. Like that he's old, out of shape & recovering from surgery *on his **_throwing shoulder!!!_*
@@UsefulPreconceivedNotions Yeah honestly at this point I thought they would have negotiated to try to get DtR or extend Flacco for Longer. They realistically should have kept Jacobe Brisette and he would have been dirt Cheap. They had so much QB rotation they should have at least secured their backup.
In reality Justin Fields would have been amazing for the Browns because although he is not the best pocket passer he doesn't need to be. Kevin Stefanski is a great at designing run Games and if he just made running schemes for Fields and maybe Foreman then this could have easily been the best running game in the league
@maskedman5657 they have DTR, they didn't trade flacco ffs
@@maskedman5657 According to wiki, DTR isn't desired by *any* NFL teams right now. I don't expect any Written Words to end his career by posting why. Watson has had to learn self-discipline & doesn't lack motivation. But I can't see how having a Real Threat to take away his starting job would fail to make him shift into a higher gear.
As for Fields, I won't take the time to prove that *_ALL_* the things said about him are false. But I will take the time to prove *one* just to point something out. I realize most NFL fans don't have the time to find good analysis channels let alone then go through the videos.
But we allow social media to shape how we view the Entire World WAY too much. So this is my tiny counter to some of that. "Fields can't read defenses." This was proven false _with stats_ by no one less than Brett Kollmann th-cam.com/video/QuhUbISnr8s/w-d-xo.html.
The other thing I'll link also helps prove that meme wrong. It's Fields' college highlights spliced with those of Caleb Williams th-cam.com/video/5JO1PsupF_U/w-d-xo.html.;
Williams isn't being touted as being generational because of his stats. If he was, then Jayden Daniels would be gettin' that. Instead, like Justin Herbert, people claim to be able to See His Greatness _despite_ not having the best stats or W/L record.
Then how come Fields is better than him *at everything?* Count e'm if you need to, Williams misses receivers by miles even when not pressured. But even without that, Fields throws low-flying missiles that don't give defenders chances to adjust to & make plays on. Then they land right in the hands of his receivers in stride. He has near-Aaron Rodgers level accuracy but gets the ball there quicker as well, which requires a stronger arm.
& also requires the ability to Read Defenses. How did everyone _miss_ that? By depending on social media memes to tell us what is & isn't reality.
@@bryan-still-a-poker-player Oh yeah I meant they should have resigned. Also I think Fields could have been a great addition
I can’t wait to come back to this video to laugh at all the haters
How'd that go last year? Watson is fucking terrible. QB34, in fact. There are two backups that had a better year.
@@bm5448 well everyone got injured
@@duketrippy933 which had absolutely zero to do with Watson being QB34.
That's 34. As in, 33 QBs were better than him. Keep reaching for excuses.
@@bm5448 well he got injured
@@duketrippy933 wtf. That's how he performed when he was on the field. You're ignoring facts on purpose.
Watson has shown he no longer wants to play, Browns did Browns things and gave him every reason not to try any longer. Sad for the fans, because other than Watson they could go far.
Oh yea especially after that one play last year where he was getting sacked and just recklessly threw the ball😂 idk who it was against
It's my understanding the guaranteed money was the only reason he wanted anything to do with Cleveland in the first place.
What even is this comment? This team Watson is about to play for is the most talented team he’s ever been apart of. He was suspended for his first season and broke his shoulder after his best game of the season where he went on the road and beat Baltimore, so what indication of him not wanting to play are you getting? Browns have been one of the best ran franchises in th league since we got AB and Stefanski so this comment is just wrong in so many ways.
Found the Cleveland fan who hasn't been completely disappointed by this franchise. Maybe after this season.
Dude screw the browns and fans. At a point leave a team that hires an overrated sexual predator. Getting rid of baker was the first dumb choice. Cuz for what Odell’s dad said? Odell was trash
Are we sure Chubb is going to be the same back this upcoming season? As a Steelers fan he one of the best rushers I’ve ever seen but I don’t think there’s any guarantee that he’ll have the same burst and shiftiness on that knee
Chubb is on another level . He is superhuman.
He’ll probably have a drop in production but he’ll still be at or close to 1k rushing yards
That's actually a really nice shirt, ngl.
It's about time that someone outside of the local Browns Market actually understands and sees the potential in the Browns
aged like milk
I get their not the best teams but Watson also played well against the titans and cardinals
The Titans were 6th in the NFL in rushing TDs allowed and 8th in passing TDs allowed. Very underrated defense. The offense was their problem.
Watson has been pedestrian with decent streches. The team is 8-4 when he plays. Many of you don't watch the games & just stat watch. Put away yall personal bias.
Below average to Pedestrian play seems fair for deshaun. Not the top 5 qb browns traded 3 1st rd picks for. And paid 230 million.
If Nick Chubb isn't comeback player of the year, the Browns will be 3rd or 4th in the division. Watson is mediocre at this point, and his lack of snaps over the last few years was obvious in games last season.
Browns averaged 28ppg last season with Watson he may not be his old self but he gives us the best chance to compete at this point
@@lizzosbelly ... but most of that was Flacco playing fantastically down the stretch, and he isn't there.
@@JohnClarkW I don’t know if you can read but I said the browns averaged 28ppg when WATSON played
It relies on the whole team, QB on this team is always next man up as we saw all season last year, just need a guy who can run the offense and the will win 11
Love the hate the Browns get! This team really can win the division and yes i have faith in Deshaun. He still young and can bounce back.
I mentioned this in a video on another channel, but I have a hunch the Browns are due for a decline, which is not the fault of the players or coaches. It's the obvious elephant in the room: Watson's contract and the amount of cap space it occupies. That is nearly one quarter of the allocated cap space for one guy who has not really lived up to expectations. It's pretty insane that compared to Watson, who has a $63M cap hit for another 2-3 years, guys like Cooper and Garrett have cap hits ranging in the $20M range, although the latter's is justified.
As for the predicted decline, it's mainly from retaining draftees like Jedrick Wills and Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, who are due for big paydays next season. Amari Cooper is also looking to cash in elsewhere if the Browns can't match his demands. The Browns have invested in their offensive line and defense, but if any of their core pieces go down with injury, the Browns need to get the best value for whoever they bring in, cause they have very little cap room to spare. Plus, with this current arms race going on in the AFC North, one team inevitably has to take the short straw, and as much as I want it to be the Steelers (just to shut up the Yinzers), knowing the penchant for gross mismanagement from their front office, I fear it will be the Browns taking a step back.
I’m a diehard Browns fan since 1985. Hot take, the Browns defense will be exposed this season as overrated. They lucked out sooooo much last year. They beat the Bengals wk 1 last year with a hobbled Burrow and bad weather. Beat the Colts with help from officials. Beat the Niners minus their LT Williams and McCaffrey, and needed a missed 40 yd FG. Beat the Cards minus Murray. The Texans minus Stroud. I hope I’m wrong, and maybe I have PTSD from so many terrible Browns seasons, but I’m still firmly in a wait and see kinda mood.
As a die hard ravens fan the browns are our biggest threat for us not repeating as AFC north champs. Ravens winning it again but the browns will most likely finish second again
Idk bout them Browns finishin’ second, them Bengals gon be back next year and tha Steelers can be sneaky good also.
@@vancecarlson1672 pissburg will finish last again. Unless Russ or Fields are actually the QB of the future. And I think the bengals are overhyped and their defense will be their downfall
I’m definitely rubbing the browns (and watsons) success in everyone’s face next year.
Nice vid but I just cant see Nick Chubb going for a 1000 yards and double digit touchdowns, that injury still gives me PTSD flashbacks 🤢🤮
Good stuff👍👍
8:02 It is a hot take if you're a Jets fan 😂
Gardner not getting away with all that holding this yearv😁......
@@NAT-turners-Revenge lol He's lasted for two years so I don't see him slowing down
@@NAT-turners-Revenge Do u seriously believe Sauce is getting preferential treatment from the refs lol? There's no way you can back up that claim
This channel has a massive blind spot when it comes to MCII unfortunately, and the whole league disrespects DJ Reed
@@angelspike I played defensive back in college and while; I am on the defenses side. I know holding and pass interference when I see it.
You're the one mentioning " preferential treatment" that's just ur guilt speaking 😂 ....
Watson will retire next season and open a chain of massage parlors
Like any other team they need to stay healthy.
You should change 1 thing on your wall every vid, just to see who notices
Deshaun Watson has not worked out at all in Cleveland. If things go really bad this year, he, Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski should be out in Cleveland.
He just gave y'all an 11-6 season without Deshawn and you want him gone? 😂
Firing Stefanski would be stupid given what he did last year, but would also be the most Browns thing ever.
Stefanski is the only person in the organization getting it done. I can see ditching Andrew Berry given that he was the GM that did the Mayfield for Watson trade, which has likely cost the Browns two playoff runs.
Stefanksi just signed an extension and played no part in the Watson deal, and he's a Top 10 head coach. There's no reason on God's green earth his seat should even be warm. I don't miss the days of Shermur, Chud, Jackson, etc etc etc. Browns finally have a borderline great coach. Keep him at all cost.
@@matthewclam6084 I agree, but Jimmy Haslem is known for making very stupid decisions.
Nah brother there will never be another “no fly zone” after the 2015 broncos give them another name 😭
There are some excellent, well informed points in that video. Unfortunately, the clickbaity title one is the exception. First of all, last season showed, that the Browns can have success, irregardless of who plays QB. They beat the 49ers with PJ Walker, who threw for 192 yds with 0 TDs and 2 INTs! What else is there to say... The "Watson needs to step up" narrativ is just tiresome.
Sure, for all that money he gets you would appreciate some more games like against the Ravens (and a lot less injuries). But trying to compare his 2022 season with 2023 and not seeing much of a difference is wild:
He was good in the opener against the Bengals considering the conditions! Please rewatch and remind yourself of how awful Joe Burrow was in that game and he got all the excuses.
Game 2 against the Steelers was rough. But almost everyone sucked in that one.
The Titans game was a good one from Watson. It is the one nobody talks about and I don't know why.
I think everyone agrees that the Colts game doesn't count. The Cardinals were absolutety destroyed by the defense and then there's the Ravens game.
So yeah, the Steelers game sucked. Brett Kollmann recently had a video about Peyton Manning and how every QB sucks now and then. The rest of his 2023 season was solid to good. So for me the question is not can he step up but can he stay healthy.
Other than that, really great video! A lot deeper than the copycat takes from your average ESPN/NFL Network etc talking heads season previews. Could have mentioned Ken Dorsey though. He will create a tailored offense for Watson, the first time in Watson's career that is. This could lead the offense to another level. I don't say Watson can't improve, just that he does not have to for the Browns to be successfull ;)
Unfortunately the box score don't lie, he has only completed 59% of his passes over the last 2 years ranking him 30th in the nfl. He ranks 53rd in pff grade among qualified passers over the last two years and 38th in qbr. These are all efficiency stats. And only track the games he plays in. And it shows us that he has been one of the worst and most inaccurate passes in the nfl since coming to cleveland. The qb we traded away has been way better in every single traditional passing stat including these. Makes you wonder why we traded 3 years of first round picks and 6 total for a worse qb. These are just facts. Can't be 'hating' if it's 100% true
@@anthonypa8045 You're right, he was not great. And you're also right in asking if all of it was worth it (my oppinion: no, definetely not worth it!). But that was not what my comment was about. My two cents in a nutshell were 1) The Browns can have success without elite QB play and 2) Watson's 2023 season was better than his 2022 season. These were referred to conclusions from the video I did disagree with. Nothing about hate, nothing about QB power rankings.
@@philippgunzel I agree we definitely can be a 10 or 11 win team if deshaun doesn't play elite. They proved that last year winning 7 of their 11 wins without watson.. but could you imagine if he would just play like the top 5 qb we thought we were getting? This team could be a superbowl team. Really need him to step it up. At least to a above average level if we want to make a deep playoff run.
Yup... Everything comes down to DW4. No excuses now. He's back, he's healthy. He just gotta put in the work. It's easy to write him off after the lackluster times he performed before but I still think he did decently well all things considered last year before he got hurt. He showed flashes so if he just protects his body, he'll do more this year. Biggest thing is, EVERYONE needs to stay healthy this year
He doesnt want to be in depressing ohio.... he misses houston with all of its thots
Watson has been terrible since 2020. They just rated him a 74 overall in madden this year. LMAO. hes the 24th best QB in the game, Which is right where Chris sims and PFF put him on there QB rankings. Dude is washed! Outplayed by 40 year old Flacco last year.
We won 11 games with FIVE QBs in the 2020s NFL. If our whole team wasnt injured we would have been the 1 seed. We did that despite massage watson. Everyone thinks we will be worse with everybody back. I swear theres some sort of matrix command to hate on cleveland and it restarts every summer.
Yeah can't imagine why someone would hate on Cleveland 🙄
Watson has been below average since end of 2020. It's just the truth. No one who covers football thinks he's good any more.
DAWG CHECK 🗣️🗣️
I get the Browns had to get rid of Baker because they just weren't clicking, but maaaaaaaaaaaan did they make the worst decision humanly imaginable to replace him.
Winston totally is better than Watson, hope he's starting soon.
Winston better than Watson?😂
Ayy Titans fan here, err time them Browns play us and beat us they have a successful year and make tha playoffs. They gon lose to my Titans next time they play em’
Why would you be happy about famous jamous being signed? He wasn't that good last year and worse of all he was extremely toxic. You already have a highly contentious situation with Watson starting. If they lose a few in a row,it's likely to snowball. I would only sign him if he was meant to be the starter, I don't want him scheming with other disgruntled. Maybe his behavior was exclusive to his time in Nola. I would be worried about his behavior though, he wasn't close to professional last year.
Even backups have an important role. Help the starter, maybe you seen something they didn't. I like Derek carr and what he tried to do to him is messed up. Plus defying a coach even if it is to get a player a td is never good.
Great video brother. Keep it up! I used to like the browns but every year they seem to get the benefit of the doubt going into every szn bc of their “great roster” without acknowledging how much better it could have been without the Watson fleece and his terrible contract…and just for them to fall flat on their face with no culture is just awesome to watch as a Texans fan.
Browns fans were on Cowboys level delusional going into the playoffs just to get smacked by the Texans who made the right move by trading their own draft pick instead of the browns to get Will Anderson. I sincerely want to thank the browns front office and fans from the bottom of my ❤ thanks for putting my franchises rebuild into hyperspeed!
I don’t think the Browns are gonna be bad this year, but I think they’re gonna be last place in the division.
Hiring Ken Dorsey at OC has trouble written all over it. Look at the Bills with VS without Dorsey
Why didn't you show some stats to prove your point? I'm guessing because you don't have any, so I'll provide some:
Points per drive:
Ken Dorsey: 2.45
Joe Brady: 2.27
Yards per play:
Ken Dorsey: 6.0
Joe Brady: 5.4
Pass success rate:
Ken Dorsey: 52.3%
Joe Brady: 45.6%
Rush success rate:
Ken Dorsey: 46.1%
Joe Brady: 44.5%
Stefon Diggs’ per game average with Ken Dorsey at OC:
7.3 catches
86.8 receiving yards
7 touchdowns
Diggs’ per game average with Joe Brady at OC:
4.9 catches
43.1 receiving yards
1 touchdown
- In 2022 the Bills were:
6361 total yards (4th in the NFL)
6.1 yards per play (2nd in the NFL)
4192 passing yards (8th in the NFL)
6.8 yards per attempt (6th in the NFL)
2232 rushing yards (9th in the NFL)
5.2 yards per attempt (tied-2nd in the NFL)
- As of Week 10 in 2023 they were:
1st in success rate
3rd in EPA per play
4th in QB rating
3rd in yards per play
3rd in TDs
2nd in 3rd down conversion %
3rd in red zone efficiency
The reason the Bills did better after Dorsey left was because Josh Allen was turning the ball over less. That's it.
@@bigredracingdog466 Cool. But those stats mean nothing when you look at the teams they played
With Dorsey, they lost to the Jets, Patriots, and Broncos, and barely beat the Giants
With Brady, they beat the Chiefs and blew out the Cowboys
If you seriously think Dorsey will succeed with Watson when he couldn’t with Allen, while having the hardest schedule in the league, you’re in for disappointment
@@laynesmancave Dorsey didn't lose those games. Allen did. He threw 3 INTs vs. the Jets (and lost a fumble), 1 vs. the Pats (and lost a fumble), and 2 in the Denver game (and lost a fumble).
Bengals next
agree agree
This team's rebuild was incredible except for one singular mistake and it's gonna ruin this championship window. They're the Browns, it's like it was destined to happen!
Except they finished with an 11 win season while being one of the most injured teams in the league, the roster is better now than it was than, the schedule isn’t that much harder, explain how they will be worse?
@@Epvil no, the team is incredible. im saying the one singular mistake was the Watson contract handcuffing them to a mediocre and, so far, regressing QB. Which, to be fair, is really only something you'd see in hindsight. In the moment the trade happened it wasn't so bad.
😭I’m afraid of the patriots video
Does anyone truly believe in Deshaun or is this just coping?
I don't. He has shown us nothing great since the 2020 season. 4 years ago now. He has been one of the worst qbs in the nfl since coming to cleveland and the stats back that 100%
I dont think they will make it far 😅
Hopefully never :D
this one isn’t featuring watson unfortunately
I think they’re gonna finish last in the AFC North. Watson isn’t that good enough anymore and after they make the playoffs one season, they fall apart the very next season.
Steelers fan talking is crazy. Ur teams last playoff win was when Tony romo was in the league
@@Epvilnot wrong though. Like 2020 they were a playoff calibre team and then the next 2 years were below 0.500. Even as a steeler fan last in the afc north isn’t a bad thing because we were all above 0.500 last season
@@Thomas-lc8bh Yeah I mean the only way how the Browns won’t finish last is if Watson is good but he isn’t. They should’ve brought back Joe Flacco to be their starter.
Wheres the Packers video? You just did everyone else in the North?
He’s a Vikings fan so he’s on fgb time
@@johndietsch2130 it could be that or its just at random. I noticed after i wrote this he didnt do the Texans with the AFC south either.
Anyone else still actively hoping for Watson's downfall? Granted, I'm a Steelers fan, so of course I want the Browns to suck, but it's been poetic justice that Watson has been so ineffective in Cleveland. That amount of guaranteed money when you're a proven shitty human being was shameful from the start.
Because Big Ben was also such a moral saint.
Your city worships Ben rapethisburger
I'm a browns fan and I was hoping flacco would make a deap playoff run and they would have released him
This is the first and last time I will agree with the stealers on anything. People often think it’s cool between Cincinnati and Cleveland but honestly the hatred for the clown show up north is as palpable as my disdain for Pittsburgh.
It’s never, browns will miss the playoffs this season
I disagree they won 11 games without him. They’ll be tough no doubt about it
I can't wait for the game breakdowns this season.
Appreciate you Matt! Will be here before you know it!
Terrible take 😂😂😂 browns was able to win with 5 different qbs with c+ d- qB play with hella injuries now they’ll b back healthy. An the browns don’t need superhero play from the qb because the whole team is like dat. This should b browns 3rd super bowl in the last 8 years but the refs continue to cheat in the most critical moments this year the browns will dominate every team only way browns get a lost is by crucial injuries or refs blatantly outright cheating .
Fr if we had bakers production from last year 4000+ yards 30 tds and only 10 ints... I think on this roster ww would've won the superbowl.
I see little chance Deshaun Watson balls out.
First round playoff exit for the Browns...
I wish some of the Browns fans would switched their allegiance to the Squealers or rat birds all they do is infect everyone else around them with their negativity
All my buddies are browns fans, all i hear is “its our year” then they always dissapoint. Sometimes i feel bad for them cuz there fans are so loyal and passionate. Theyre just gonna browns
Chill. Browns are the best team in the league. This is our year. It's our year every year. GO BROWNS!!!
AFC’s Dallas Cowboys lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This team’s future is not very bright
Watson is going to be the death of this team. He doesn't care about football anymore and is only waiting for his contract to end so he can go sit on a beach like Hans Gruber from Die Hard and earn 20%.
Yep that’s why he was 4-1 last year as a starter. Great take
Let me save everyone time no it doesn't because last year 3/4 the roster was injured and they still made the playoffs
*If DW4 fails in Cleveland, that's going to be a bad look for Cleveland, not DW4.*
Jerry jeudy is gonna have a career year 😅
Nah this ain’t it
You dramatically overestimate the Browns defence!
Can the goat reply?
If Watson is healthy, then the Browns win 11 games again.
if watson is healthy browns win 7 or 8 games. if Jameis takes over i can see them winning 11.
@@WSAMP24 Well, Watson wasn’t 4-1 as the starter last season.
@@lamontrankinjr.280 the team was 4-1 when watson played. the team won games, watson was along for the ride
Oh so they were 4-1 in his starts. Thanks for playing.
@@lamontrankinjr.280 yup browns were 4-1 when flacco started too, but flacco lead deshaun in qbr, passer rating, pff grade, yards, and tds.
Browns fan: great team made good by a bad QB. 9-11 wins with a wild card round loss
Watson? He'll be watching the games from a hot tub by week 4.
I hope they go 0-16
Haha respect
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