Looking Back At The Ambitious Gundam PS3 Launch Title (Gundam Crossfire Review) - Pragmatik
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2022
- The launch of the PS3 was rough. And with that came a rough around the edges Gundam game that showed serious potential. Let's take a dive back and look at Gundam Crossfire!
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It really is frustrating that the gameplay isn't better. The concept is probably one of the best ideas for a Gundam game. I really hope someone tries this concept again in the future. Although with the direction licensed anime games have been going that feels less likely...
Yeah GBO2 may be the best we are going to get, but hey Bandai does like money so who knows!
A sequel would kill on modern systems. PS3 was notorious for being hard to develope for so having a new game would be amazing.
Oh I have no doubt that this would be great if given a bit more time and better hardware to be on!
This was one of the greatest games along with seek and destroy for ps2 Had such a good time playing this back in the day. If this was made in a modern engine it would be amazing
I bet it would have! I feel a lot was done right here, and honestly even a few more months of fine tuning would of made this game that much greater! Thanks for watching!
@@PragmatikReviews had you played lost war chronicle for ps2? It is the precursor to Gundam crossfire I think!
@@a.t6066 I have it on the list!
@@PragmatikReviews neat. I'll be waiting for the video!
With the shutdown of Gundam Evolution, and Breaker Mobile I want this game to have a remake with updated graphics and including the Gundam Alex and Zaku II Kai
That would be sick! Is Evolution shutting down?
@@PragmatikReviews Sadly yes. Getting the plug pulled by November.
@sentinel1354 Wow no kidding. Guess it wasn't as doing as well as I'd hoped!
No lie though… the “Operations Room” soundtrack was ABSOLUTELY BANGER
Oh, no for sure! This game had some absolutely great music!
I one finished a mission with no head or arms. I kicked the last enemies to death. I've seen other reviews brush off the dismemberment feature, but it really adds a lot to the game, both in making sure you've got your shield up so you aren't losing functionality of your mobile suit, and sniping enemies arms off before you go in so you don't get met with a barrage of beam fire as soon as combat starts.
I think that's a big feature of Gundam in general. Units lose arms all the time, and it's not something you see end a fight, pilots will still use what they can. But it also shows that these super machines are still just very much machines. I don't think I've seen an example better than this game.
I loved this game. The damage to mobile suits was an awesome detail that really puts you in the action. Needing a reload during combat really adds to the pressure in a good way. That said, early missions before upgrade to existing suit stats, better pilots, more gear, newer suits can be quite hard. Replay when you've got the upgrades is very satisfying.
Yeah, I hope I eluded to that the more you play the better this game gets. Especially when you get those higher value suits. Then you can just shred!
The PS3 gag at the intro wrecked me, haha! As a big Gundam fan, I've almost purchased this game like 5 times, but each time I'm always talked out of it by people telling me how bad it is. I know you said it's not all bad, but even just watching the captured footage for the review it looks pretty damn rough, haha. Still though, I really like the time management mechanic and using different suits and pilots. Seems like a pretty cool way of simulating how the actual war would have functioned. Great job as always man!
Thanks for watching man! Yeah, I'll have to admit this isn't the first I have actually bought this game. I've got it, traded it back in the day, and found myself giving it another chance. The plus side is that this game IS pretty cheap if ever you want to give it a shot! Just remember what I said about easy mode haha.
@@PragmatikReviews Yeah, I think it was like $7.99 used at GameStop years ago which I assumed was for a reason, haha. Maybe one of these days I'll give it a shot, but I barely have time to even play the games I know for sure I'll like. Someday though!
@@RewindArcade It'll be there I'm sure!
Its pretty bad.
If you play on emulator it is alot smoother at 35fps or so. Also looks better
Great review mate. I remember getting this at launch and then putting it aside pretty fast. I feel after watching this I may need to revisit and see if my opinions have changed at all. Loving the Gundam content mate. Keep em coming.
Thanks man, I'd definitely say that this one probably didn't age any better lol. Got more stuff coming! thanks for watching!
I’ve just gotten into battle operation 2. And I guess that’s the “modern” version of what this game wanted to be. Still looks like this game would benefit immensely from a remake
Same here! And I get that same feeling, but never found any concrete link that this may of been the start to GBO's development. But it does certainly feel that way. I'd seriously like a remake
I know the reviews weren't wonderful, but i genuinely enjoyed Gundam Crossfire. Once you got the controls down you could be a monster with the low level suits.
I think this game did a pretty good job at making suits feel powerful when you earned them. Like it gets worth a little bit of frustration. Sadly I didn't think people gave it that long of a chance.
@PragmatikReviews i can totally relate. At first it was frustrating, especially the Zeon campaign. I will admit it did feel more lore accurate to the anime counterparts. A Zaku I and II aren't very durable, but you can really make them a threat with their boost speeds. I will say i found mixing lock-on, manual aiming, and honing your thruster skills rather efficient once you adjusted to the boost controls.
Idk how you call the lock on feature useless, it's practically invaluable for me 99% of the time, I regularly get A/S ranks in every mission on normal mode even with poor mechs just by utilizing the fact that I'm locking on and the enemy usually isn't.
You can dodge on command while locked on the enemy, circling them, and not missing so many of your shots makes it less of a problem for you to need to resupply. The only times I've even gotten damaged in this game is when I'm forced into melee by low ammo or not paying attention.
Finally, certain heavy weapons can be instantly fired in midair, IF you're locked onto the target, they're unsatisfying/slow when fired normally, but abusing that mechanic makes them broken.
That is something I wish I redacted when I reviewed this. I did feel it improved it the combat, but when I was using it I think I was just getting hit left and right that I put too much of the blame on it. But hey that's what I like to see, I like when people show me that there is more to a feature than I originally realized. Totally didn't know about the mid-air fire!
@@PragmatikReviews L1 and X tapping is your key to both landing most of your shots, and dodging most attacks
What if Mechwarrior and Gundam had a baby? This.
That really isn't a bad comparison lol
I definitely need to get this. I didn't get my PS3 until November 2011 so it was never easy to find locally.
You should! And the best part is that this game is still relatively cheap!
Journey To Jaburo is still my favorite gundam game. Nothing has matched that feel
I need to play that one some more! Seriously love the opening to it!
Zeonic front all the way😂
I'm glad this game got made because the engine was used for the first DW Gundam game 👍
That's so weird to think this predates the DW Gundam games. especially considering DW 2 came out on ps2 as well!
@@PragmatikReviews Yeah dude, this game had to crawl so the DW games could run. I really miss this era and the PS2 era of Gundam games, we had so many.
@@samuraispiritsx Weird to think we get so few nowadays. And the ones we do get don't feel that inspired. We need another shot at this game and another side story.
Man if only the can make the combat smoother and the FRAME RATE I'm sure this'll be a good game
I think a few comments here have talked about emulating it with some custom stuff has helped its performance.
I bought this game used on a whim several years ago. I'd not heard great things about it but i figured, what harm could there be in trying it out for myself? Well, the moment I inserted the disc into my PS3, the drive suddenly made a loud grinding noise and the entire console shut itself down, after which it simply refused to turn back on again. From that day forward, Gundam Crossfire has remained in my memory as the game that killed my first PS3. I did eventually get the disc back after dismantling the console and have since bought a replacement PS3 Slim, however the game has remained unplayed as I refuse to take any further risky chances. 😂
Oh man, talk about leaving a bad impression! I promise you the game isn't so bad it tried to kill itself with your ps3, but maybe get another copy In the future!
this drives me nuts cause this is literally my ideal gundam game, a gritty, ground-only and brutal game with time and resource management and mech customization. Like y'all had the blueprint with mechwarrior 4, just do that with GBO2's control scheme and make it cross-platform, such a monumental amount of wasted potential.
It's honestly just like, can you guys just do it again, but refine it? I feel like this game gets so, so close to that it needs to be!
If you have a decent pc, I recommend trying this game on RPCS3, the fps is decent consistently and the game loads everything in 2-5 seconds if on an ssd.
Yeah, that's what I would imagine, and I bet that helps immensely! It's cool to see so many people who are really passionate about this game.
This was by far my most liked Gundam game followed by few Gundam games on PSP that I played. This was the first Gundam game that I found which actually represented the original anime, where losing limbs was part of the story, yes the game had issues but it was better than all other games that focused more on gameplay than being true to old Gundam anime.
Like you I got annoyed when a lucky enemy shot would blow my head or arm off with a lucky shot, but at the same time it was the first Gundam game where I really felt like I was in a giant Mech that was heavy and hard to use while at the same time being very powerful. I remember I completed the game twice and I think second run was on hard, and there were missions that I finished with auto cannon just because I had no limbs left, and that really gave the feeling from some of the anime episodes.
Oh yeah I totally agree that the damage gave you that gundam series feel. Would of been a nice nod to see your arm get damaged only for you to use it as a weapon. I also just like how cool the battle damage looked!
I love this game, I even bought a PS3 recently to play it still, well and a few other PS3 gundam games but I love this game so much, both sides I've played through to have every mobile suit max upgraded from both sides on each save. This with bigger battles, more suits and GBO2 graphics would be the best game ever made. Why are you not locking on? You say it doesn't help but if you've been playing trying to kill things without lock and learning how to use lock properly then I can see why you don't like the game, you have to use your vulcans to get the suyit to go in to guard and be still then use main weapon or wait till they finish a boost or get behind them when moving so you hit them.
Yeah I'm sure it had assets put into other games, but like, make it again dudes! they've got the iron so hot with this game!
This game was my first Gundam everything
That's an interesting way to start! Did this game get you more curious about gundam in general?
I didn't get a PS3 until the slim model and the price went down and I was so happy to get this game, Dynasty Warriors Gundam and Motorstorm. I loved the other 2 and I played them, along with the sequels of those games. I was so disappointed with this game and I didn't even learn the controls and turned it off. I finally gave it another chance one day after a few years and I really like this game. Your right about the frame rate but that's the only thing I don't like about this game now. It's pretty much the closest thing we have to a Gundam simulation game. I love the fact it's in English. Reading text, when playing is very hard and it's almost impossible to read every word. That's 1 thing I hate about newer games. People complaining about the English voices, the vocabulary, and/or the repeated words said killed the English dub in some games now. I think some of the lines said in this game get annoying but I would rather have it then to have to read everything. Sadly I don't buy most Gundam Games now, because of that reason. I was so happy to see Dynasty Warriors Gundam Reborn come out, until I played it. I can read most of the stuff said, but then I miss 1 line and I fail the mission and I have to replay it to find out what I missed. That's 1 thing that's a deal breaker for me. A non action game is ok for subtitles but not a game where I am trying not to die or fighting a enemy. I hope English voices come back to games, even if they end up being annoying like this game. It's better than a language I don't speak. I feel bad for gamers who never get games in they're language now.
That's a very solid point you bring up, and something I bet is a huge problem in SD Gundam: Battle Alliance. A lot of people say that there is so much to focus on that it's hard to read what the characters are talking about. I don't usually mind English voices, and the best implementation of them is when they log the dialogue and even have an option to play back the voice. I'd love to see future games do that. Thanks for watching!
I loved this game, but I also acknowledge that it's bad. Piloting the Hildolfer was cool as hell
The various suits you could pilot was super cool! They seemed to nail that pretty well. A little more polish and it could of been one of the best, I believe!
@@PragmatikReviews it could have been Gundam VS for the next gen 🥲
@@GW2_Live It truly could have been!
Gundam Armored Core 👀 neat! ...oof yeah that frame rate. If not for the title I would've thought it was a ps2 game x.x
Defintley rough in that regard but still a pretty all around fun game
I have played this game on both campaigns 7 times each, it is a horrid game, but I do love it quite a bit because of the few good qualities it provides.
Like, it's rough, but has seriously so much potential! I could only hope for a remake someday.
@@PragmatikReviews Maybe, I pretty much went through and 100% the game: got at one of each MS, maxed their abilities, got every pilot, S ranked every mission, so I probably won’t go through it again for awhile, only thing I didn’t do is max out the character’s levels, if their even is a max since the PC for my many playthroughs never reached the max.
@@primesouls4185 That's some serious devotion!
Yes it did
Damn thassa good video
Shadow? In my comments? What an honor!
it was hardish but i liked it
Liking it is all that matters!
I’ve heard the games frame rate is much better with an emulator
I could believe that. it's not even all that bad at times on the ps3.
Gives me gundam battle operation vibes
Though never stated, I seriously feel like this was part of the inspiration.
-_- People are just BAD "pilots" and this game is AMAZING. this isn't the kind of game you you play to beat it, you play to master it.
I could definitely see some devoted time being put into this yielding good results. but this game definitely comes with a bit of flaw. that said, I do like it!
i love this game. i love the clunkiness of the gundams.
Haha you should try out GBO2 then! Has the best feel of how a Mobile Suit would feel.
I wonder if emulation can fix the frame rate.
I bet there is some way to do it for sure!
Ive beaten this game on emulator plenty it is much smoother. Runs around 35 to 45fps
this should have released on pc. it has too much going on for a mid budget ps3 launch title. Destruction, water physics, bigish areas.
Yeah, it definitely needs a bit more power behind it. But I think that shows that it was a product that was ahead of its time!
@@PragmatikReviews Agreed, they should give it another shot. Reminds me of armored core!
@SicSemperBeats Luckily we've got a new one coming!
Just play Zeonic Front, it has the slow realistic heavy mech gameplay, but it isn't broken like this game.
I've played it before, but I defintley need to pick it up again!
My dream game would be a gundam game in the "Ace Combat" style of design. Though I'd prefer the story to be somewhat less insane and memeable. This game is the closest thing to that in the US, and I'm so frustrated it had to be a rushed PS3 launch title.
Have you played GBO2? It's definitely not at Ace combat level, but it's pretty solid for feeling like you're using a giant robot!
@@PragmatikReviews I've watched a lot of videos on it and I've definitely been interested. I just don't have a PS4 or PS5 so I can't really play it :(
I saw its on Steam now, its just not out yet. I may give it a go then, though multiplayer focused games aren't my cup of tea.
@@matthewoburn2126 I'd totally wait for the steam version when it finally comes out! You might hate it for a week because it's kinda a steep curve but it definitely gets better!
To be honest i really enjoyed this game.
Oh I think it can definitely be enjoyed! just feels a little rough around the edges!
Do zeonic front!
Oh it's on the list for sure!
I still like RX-78-2 in this game. The one in GBO2 kinda...suck...
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Gundam Lost War Chronicle seems more polished than Crossfire. The graphic not as good as this, but the fps for sure are more better than this.
Thank you for the review. Looking forward for another Gundam Game review from you.
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Haha I just picked up GBO2 and hadn't used it yet! Guess I'll have to see the difference for myself! thanks for watching!
I need to pick up Lost War Chronicle! Checked out a few of your videos! gotta follow you for some of that skilled gameplay! keep it up!
@@PragmatikReviews Www, i hope the video i made entertain you a little.
Thank you for your kindness, comrade.
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It feels like you only discovered the target button at the end of the review
Oh yeah my editing really highlighted targeting at the end but yeah I should of used more footage where I use it. But even then the game still feels a bit rough.
@@PragmatikReviews I thought so! Either way think you documented the strengths and weaknesses of the game perfectly!
@@magoslucius4245 I appreciate it! I can't help but love this game a bit. it's style and gameplay were a step in the right direction I feel!
wtf is that frame rate? looks horrific
Haha lt can certainly drop at times that for sure.
Ya know emulators are a thing right?
I am aware but I love playing on original hardware if I'm honest!
I hate this game but i like this game♥️
Ya know, that's not a bad description for this game lol
I hate this game with terrible fps and ai but i like this game can play with english
Yeah the voice acting was pretty good in this! Everything else needed a tune up though!
@@PragmatikReviews agree