MSFS: Amp Up Your Sim with these FREE Panels
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- This video describes the free Air Manager panels by Simstrumentation for many popular MSFS default and addon aircraft.
Simstrumentation info & GitHub repository www.Simstrumentation.com
Simstrumentation discord forum / discord
Air Manager by www.siminnovations.com
I speak for all of us at Simstrumentation when I say thanks for showcasing our work like this. Hopefully more folks can enjoy the fruit of our labour and perhaps even contribute as well.
What you are doing is highly appreciated! Thank you so much!
@@TheThomasMi you're very welcome.
Great work! That Fenix MCDU is gonna be awesome.
Thank you friend!
Thank you very much for all your hard work.
Great content always! Also appreciate your calm logical explanations....its very relaxing to learn this way. Thank you!
Been using this since 2020 came out, it's a fantastic solution and I'm always looking to expand my setup!
Thanks for another great video! I took your advice and purchased a Wimaxit touch screen and the Knobster. They really enhance the realism. Off to check out Simsumentation!
Been using air manager for quite awhile.... this sounds worth looking into. I just wish I didn't have to unlock my panels to put into my realsimgear 530 and 430 units. I'd like to be able to turn my avionics on and the screens are ready to go. Great video Russ
I loved the way you explain , thanks Boss❤
Thanks Russ - really inspiring for a new (return) flight simmer. All the best from Oz :)
Subbed Russ, I have seen a few of your videos, really love your love for aviation myself. What monitors are those and where can you buy them ? what TV's? are you running a 3090 ?
Nice setup bro!
Great video. What touchscreen monitors are you using? There are so many available but yours fit perfectly into the foreground.
Wimaxit 15.6” full HD 1929 x1080 multi touch. Glass capacitive touch screen.
Hoping to get my multi screen setup and my tablets / external screens set up this fall / winter!
Thabk you Russ for teaching me and ahowing cool ideas, go go fly team 👌💪
would love to see a piper seneca 1 on here. I'm doing my multi-ifr now, would be great for practice, any tips?? thanks for the upload, very well explained!
Thank you Russ, great video. Air Manager is great. Popping out PFD or MFD windows from MSFS is very taxing on the fps though, usually a 15-20 drop. I hope SU10 will resolve part of it.
Yes I think it is improved in SU10 but still wonder why a 2D graphic that is already being rendered.in the sim cockpit is such a load on fps.
@@srbarlow It looks like you are flying into San Luis Obispo, my town...:)
Russ delivers again!
nice video!! Im subscribing to your channel now, do u have videos on how to setup the honeycombs alpha and bravo? I have both but I think im missing a lot of the best features, please let me know thanks!
Appreciated as always! May I build top panel for playing cold start up with this method?
good job.. thanks for info
You are amazing!
I love VR, but not having a headset on is a nice change at times
I want pass through video so I can see VR AND my cockpit panels, controls and hands.
thanks for the link , russ
Russ, Does MSFS allow an external view with scenery only and an internal view with 2D air manager instrument panels? I have not switched to MSFS from X-Plane because this has not been available in the pass. Love your videos. Thanks Roy
No this is not available yet . Some people have faked it by moving the cockpit view forward so the panel is out of view. I find running both XP12 and MSFS on my Setup works fine if you have enough ssd space. There is a learning curve on MSFS so you might want to get a head start if you intend to switch. I am keeping both.
Thank you for your video! I’m new at this stuff! Do you get any lag by having those monitors?
None that I notice
Hi Russ , I watched your video of your home made cocpit . What material did you use for your black glairshield . Keep the videos coming , they are great
I used 1/8” hardboard from Menards
It has a very smooth finish and quite stiff. Painted glossy it looks a lot like metal. Definitely need some support behind as on video.
www.menards.com/main/building-materials/panel-products/handi-panels/2-x-4-hardboard-handi-panel/1291119/p-1444431322592-c-13337.htm
@@srbarlow thanks russ , I picked up the hardboard at menards , did you use the same material for the black piece that surrounds the panel . If so do you have any tricks to get it to bend around the curved sections . Thanks much for all the help . Jim
@Jim Huseby if you mean the curved glareshield I used a couple layers of a Fiberglass Reinforced Panel used mostly on bathroom walls. The come in 4’ x 8’ sheets but I had a few scraps. They bend easily but are pretty stiff. I stapled the first strip to the curved 2x2 panel frame and then glued and stapled another two layers with epoxy to stiffen things up. I then put some adhesive plastic that looks like graphite fiber on the surface(Pep boys)and used black plastic door edge trim also from pep boys.
@@srbarlow thanks russ . Ill give it a try , your videos are a great help , thanks for taking the time to make them . Jim
Hey Russ, were you a T 37 instructor pilot. I noticed you have a lot of hours in that type aircraft. We had them when I was in Air Force Base in early 1967. I’m wondering what they’re using for training these days best regards ron
I’ve been following your channel, and I’ve got a 15.6 touchscreen, but I’m seeing a few problems:
When I touch the screen, my joystick and yoke no longer work…I have to then click the mouse on the main display to get them to respond again.
The second issue I had was the g1000s and the air manager working together…if I touch the g1000 overlay it sends the g1000 display to the back and I can’t see it.
Any input or ideas would be greatly appreciated…I’m wanting to add a second touchscreen
This a question for Mr Barlow. I wonder whether both the G1000 PFD and MFD can reside on a larger touch screen on Air manager rather than on two separate ones.
How did you get rid of the mouse? For instance, when talking to ATC how do you gain pointer refocus to the main screen?
Hi Russ great video can you do a video talking about using a ipad as a screen and the air manger app ? thanks
Another TH-camr already did a good one see:
th-cam.com/video/qQ4CTn9zO8g/w-d-xo.html
I've been looking at this for a long time, but I don't fly General aviation I'm more the Airbuses A320 Fenix & flybywire A340 & A380 (When released by flybywire), it would be nice to be able to setup a cockpit based on the Airbus
Can I ask you what GPU are you using? Because I cannot have more than 4 monitors in my RTX and I don't know any GPU that would allow more than 4 monitors.
Hi Russ!
Thanks for your great videos!
3 years ago, I builded a G1000 with physical buttons assigned to keyboard/joystick keys. 1 computer for the Sim and another for the G1000 lcds and software. I was using it perfectly with X-Plane 11 and Project Magenta Glass Cockpit software, but now I'm swapping to MSFS2020 and I'm considering using my setup with Air Manager. Do you know if it's possible to assign keyboard keys or joystick buttons inside Air Manager on a second computer ?
Thanks again! Cheers!
The problem you will have with MSFS is that it doesn’t support networking multiple copies of the sim. Until it does you have to run things on a single computer and there is no scenery only view available. You won’t need to use keystrokes though as the Simstrumentation guys have done the legwork and have bezels for the G1000 that can pretty easily converted to a hardware function to run your physical bezel. Let me know if you need some help with that conversion
@@srbarlow thank you for your quick reply. My concern about running more monitors on the Sim computer is that I already have 3 monitors to replicate a GA cockpit, 1 (4k) for windshield and 2 (1080p) for the windows. And I don't know if adding 2 more monitors on the same computer (Gtx Titan X equipped) for avionics will kill my Fps...
How much Fps approximately are you losing by using pop out instruments (views)?
Love your videos Russ, is it possible, to get the GTN 750 on to a tablet, I've tried but no success. TIA
You could use Spacedesk to use the iPad as an external monitor and then position the GTN on it.
Where did you find those touchscreen Monitors??
So these panels operate? You could use these to make aircraft without usable panels to operate?
Can you list links to all the sites you know of that have panels we can use on air manager. I've only found some on siminnovation. I have also figured out how to make instrument placards for my panel.
You can find them in the info box below the video.
Thanks
This may be the last nail in the xplane coffin.
Let's GO
Excent video and great work by Simstrumentation! But... I cant figure out how to get the downloaded *siff file for the G3000 from GHub into Air Manager so I can use it in a panel. Help!
Go to the create tab and click the import button. Select the .siff file to import. It will then be available to put into panels
Do you need touchscreen lanals or could I just use a regular monitor? I guess that kind of defeats the purpose but this is nicer to look at them just the alt click solution.
You can use normal screens if you wish. You don't get the extra touch functionality which is one of the main advantages of Air Manager, but it works.
Russ, Ron here again. Really enjoyed this subject. I have msfs and air mgr and knobster. I tried to get the g1000 bezel from simstrumentation. No luck. Would you pls walk me through to put the pop out from msfs program. Thanks again. Ron from sdg
Check out MSFS pop out Manager freeware available at FlightSim.to
I’ve got a desktop setup that’s similar…but now I can’t pop out any gauges/displays in MSFS which has just rendered my second display worthless
Hello Russ, thanks for all your info, always helpful, I've took your advice to use Air Manager a while back and thanks for providing the flap handle print files for the Honeycomb throttle, my son has a printer and made some for me. I have a question on my fps problem. Since MSFS has multi monitor capability I added a third monitor. My system was primarily built for video and photo editing, I'm not very knowledgeable about gaming setup. I built my system consisting of an AMD 5950x cpu, 64 GB ram, Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme, fast 2TB SSD 980 pro NVMe drive for the software programs, Nvidia 3090, 1 Benq SW271 monitor and 2 Benq EL2870u Monitors. When running MSFS on 1 monitor I get 60 FPS, on 2 monitors I get 1/2 the FPS (around 30 FPS, on 3 monitors I get 20 FPS.), running Spacedesk on a tablet used for a popout makes the fps completely unusable at 15 fps, this is done on the ground, clear sky's, nothing moving in the frame. It doesn't seem to matter if I'm in low or ultra setting, tried setting all monitors to 1080, pretty much get the same FPS. Is the bottleneck my monitors which are all 60 fps, it seems to be starting at 60 fps and then just dividing it up between them. I tried overclocking the monitors but they don't seem to let me. My motherboard unfortunately doesn't have onboard video to help out somewhere. Flying with 3 monitors is so much better, I would be happy with 20+ fps with spacedesk running. Do you have any ideas?
No ideas, but I can confirm that even a single popped out VFR Map on a single display will halve FPS (latest msfs beta). Some people have said that this doesn't happen if they use the iGPU as the secondary but I can't test that until my 13900K OC bundle arrives as my current mb doesn't support the iGPU.
@@ColinDyckes Thanks for replying, it appears when using 2 monitors it cuts the fps in half, when I use three monitors it cuts the fps to 1/3 so it's consistently dividing the fps between the number of monitors/popouts. I wondered if using monitors with higher frame rate cut the fps relatively in half or 1/3, for example 120 frame rate using 2 monitors cut in half (60fps) with 3 monitors cut to 1/3 (40fps). Unfortunately my motherboard does not have iGPU, it sounded like that could have helped for me.
@@marcelkr It sounds as if your 1/2 and 1/3 slowdowns are due to the increased number of pixels needing to be rendered rather than popouts (which could then halve things again 😢). Turn on Developer Mode and see if you are CPU or GPU bound without popouts. You may not have a powerful enough CPU or GPU for triple monitor.
@@ColinDyckes Thanks I will try that next time I'm on MSFS, what should the mode be in CPU or GPU bound? My system should be powerful enough since I have a Nvidia 3090 gpu and the AMD Ryzen 9 5950x cpu
@@marcelkr I had a 3090 before buying a 4090. I would say that your 3090 is the bottleneck at the moment. With a 4090 it would move to the CPU. My 5.6Ghz all core OC 13900K bundle arrives on Monday to replace my OC 10900k.
What about using iPads as extended Monitor
Hey Russ, ron here again. Good news I finally downloaded a Cessna 172 package from the marketplace with the new G 1000 NXI. Before trying to use it with pull out panels, etc., to put on a auxiliary screen that I have. I try to take it for a spin, just to see how the airplane flies. I know sooner got to the end of the runway and both screens shut down. I shut down the program restarted it, and both screens were working and and again after about five minutes, the screens shut down am I doing something wrong or is there a flaw in the system or is there something that I should be doing.I would appreciate your help. Thanks again ron
Not sure I understand what you mean? Describe your setup and confirm this is MSFS ? I answer a lot of questions so I am not sure I remember your previous issue. Tell me what monitor blacks out? Try to explain again please
Where do you buy suitable touch screen panels ? Can you give me a link - is there a certain size better than others - ? Does it depend on the number of suitable connections on your graphics card ?
It depends on your setup. To get a decent sized panel you may want to use a 22-24" monitor but consider how high it will sit with your yoke in place. Too high and it will block too much of your scenery monitor. You eye should be about level with the mid point vertically of your scenery monitor(s). Will your panel monitor sit on top of or behind the yoke as you look at it in the pilots position? See how high it will be.
Be sure to get a capacitive touch monitor as I suggest a glass surface for durability,
Log into the Simstrumentation discord and users there can suggest specific hardware they are using.
@@srbarlow Many thanks Russ for the useful advice.
Can I ask what touch screen monitors do you use? Thanks!!
The 15.6” are Wimaxit capacitive Iouch glass screens.
I'm having issues with the Vision Jet's GTC 580 pop out panels and a Wimaxit monitor. I can't interact with them by touch, only via mouse (the pop out windows). I have touchscreen input and click-through selected in Air Manager. For example, I touch the numbers on the comms page, but it only highlights the numbers, instead of actually pressing them. Any thoughts?
Edit - Solved. I needed to download MSFS Pop Up Manager. Now it all works perfectly!
Touch is not implemented on MSFS pop out windows. Try the freeware MSFS Pop out Window Manager which has an option to allow touch inputs on pop outs
flightsim.to/file/35759/msfs-pop-out-panel-manager
@srbarlow Thanks Russ, that worked!
Hi Russ. Can these panels be used in X-Plane and if not, is there a comparable resource? Thank you.
The panels can certainly be adapted to work with X-Plane if you have the same aircraft type available on X-Plane. You could just add the dataref subscriptions to the code and you could use the graphics. Which panel are you interested in?
Sim Innovations has pay panels and is adding additional panels. Unfortunately the free panels are limited but check the Air Man discord as guys share there and it is more XP focused.
If you want to try to convert one of the MSFS Simstrumentation panels I’d be happy to guide you through the process.
@@srbarlow HI Russ.Curses to you! (no - really I am incredibly grateful) I thought I was fine with the realsimgear G1000 panels I bought, but then you opened my eyes to everything that can be done with Air Manger - blended panels! (touchscreen / ipad + arduino physical knobs). All from your TH-cam videos. Now I am sucked into the vortex! I fly a Cessna 206 and started with sims to maintain proficiency. I though I was fine - then a friend got a DC-3 so I'm now expanding the sim to aid in my multi rating and to set up a DC-3 trainer. I'd love to chat if possible. please reach out with direct contact info. I don't see a way to do that in this forum - I followed you on twitter, would you please try to reach me there? Thank you.
You show a great looking CJ4 panel. Where can I get it? The web page only appears to contain individual CJ4 instruments.
It was in the video Www.Simstrumentation.com
@@srbarlow I only see individual panels (radio, MFD, autopilot, etc.). I there a single file that has these instruments put together like you show in the video?
@@tubeslats it varies by aircraft. Initially Simstrumentation offered only the instrument's to download,. At first you had to download and import each individually into Air Manager . I think they have some complete packages now which is easier. Not sure if they have panels that can be imported yet but actually laying out the instruments which can be resized and positioned is pretty simple and quick.
I see the packages. I was just curious if a full panel was available for the CJ4. Apparently there is not one. Thanks for everything.
The CJ4 instruments are natively available in AM and don't need to be downloaded. They've been in the community store for quite a long time.
We don't offer fully built panels because there's too wide of a variety of screen sizes out there. Some people run their AM panels on tablets. Some use 13" screens, others 15, and yet others 23+ in screens. Others use a mix thereof. A layout built for one size likely won't work well for another. It then ends up in way too many support requests from users who want custom stuff for their own setups. For example, I run a pair of 23" screens for my main displays, and a 15.6" as a centre pedestal console, and another 15" for a side panel. Something built for me wouldn't work for the average person using a 15 or 13" screen at all.
As a result, we just prefer provide instruments and let people build their own layouts the way that works best for them on their own screens.
Hey all. I'm feeling out where I'd like my simulation setup to go and what I can/cannot do with MSFS or X-Plane. Is it possible to remove the cockpit interior from the main display? I'm looking at time 1:40 and see the cockpit displayed behind the physical panel setup.
You still can't do that. The best you can do is move a camera to an external or more forward view to hide the virtual cockpit.
@@ottopilot6536 Appreciate the confirmation.
For anyone reading I reported the spam account in this sub-thread.
Will the simulator ever have the ability to remove the panel from the front view? I assume if it did, you would have already done it for your AirManager panels.
You can do this in PlaneMaker and save it as another aircraft.
Here it is 2022 and we still cant turn off the virtual or the 2d panel and run just scenery with our hardware. There has got to be a hack for this!!!
Russ, a tech question.... when I use Air Manager on my two 10" touchscreens, as I move the controls with touch, the main monitor (camera) changes views (responds) to the touch movement on the 10" screens. Any ideas would be extremely appreciated..... thank you in advance.
A few more details… MSFS or XP? The camera view moves or switches views? Do the controls work correctly on the touchscreens? A new setup or did this just happen after working for a while?
@@srbarlow MSFS.. everything else works correctly. Asyou move your finger on the touch screen, the main screen moves (like using your right mouse button to adjust view angle).
@@jmm_az go to control settings for mouse and look under cockpit camera and remove the default zoom assignment to the mouse scroll wheel
@@srbarlow away right now, I'll get back to you this afternoon... thanks
@@srbarlow Russ, I'm back. I've decided to do some more research. Intel I7-9700, 64 GB, EVGA RTX 3080, 38" LG curved, 10" touch screen. Even with MSFS running and Air Manager "not" loaded, when I touch the 10", I can see mouse trails on the 38". I found an article that indicated to make the 10" the main display. Doing that and removing the camera modes from the mouse seems to have corrected it. I'll keep playing and let you know. Hopefully in a couple of hours, I will have a permanent result. Thank you again for your help.
Looking good ! Although don’t think I’ve got enough space for more screens, unless I upgrade to a bigger house :)
Can't help with that but you could try a GoFundMe page :)
Perfeito.
Obrigado
Are you still using the honeycomb systems?
Yes among others but they are a solid choice for a moderate price.
Love your videos, but sure wish you could turn up the volume. So hard to hear.
All good, however, MSFS2020 needs to sort out undocking the cockpit or flight deck interior, just showing you the outside views. This is a must for those who use hardware panels, it was done on previous versions of MSFS, so why have they not made this available?
Yes and I think this is in their radar but hasn’t reached their active projects list
This is nice but not enough panels for heavy aircraft
They have the CRJ and the PMDG737 is in progress. Also the Fexix A320 is there.
Will these work with my Android Tablets?
No the android tablet version only includes the instruments in the app
I have all space sims, CV1/G2/tobi5, and have to say VR is the pits, fumbling around like a blind man, fiddling every time you fly a sim, and sim updates are a nightmare. VR is a clunky, stagnant tech, which has become a cash-grab.
man i need this just for the FMC. sick of using the mouse to click the keys on that thing. thanks for the video!
You could put that on a iPad and use spacedesk to connect it as a monitor. It would give you a touchscreen FMC
Well, FMCs are well covered for the better airliners. We have both the CJ4 and the Fenix A320 FMCs done. And another dude has done the PMDG 737 and it's available in the AM Community Store for free.
And I believe there's a FBW A320 floating around as well done by someone on the Sim Innovation forum.
Your audio is very low. I really had to crank up my volume.
Great idea but the cost of the Air Manager program is high - 65 euros. Probably will not buy it because of this.
Jerry
Compared to the cost of a computer capable of running MSFS I don’t think $65 is very much. I am always amazed that gamers complain about the high costs of Air Manager and real life pilots tell me what a bargain it is compared to anything associated with actually flying😁 You can’t take your family to a decent meal for $65 these days.
@@srbarlow Comparing the cost of this program with other programs then I think that the price IS high. When you compare this with MSFS 2020 then it does seem to be too high. My view is that it may be a great program, but well above the price that I am willing to pay.
Jerry
@@theworldssexiestman Considering what Air Manager can do compared to other programs you may be comparing it to, there's no contest. Air Manager isn't just a tool. It's a platform upon which you can build literally an infinite number of cockpit layouts for anything and everything. There are over 1400 free community instruments available for almost anything. And that list is growing all the time.
Hope cockpit setups aren't cheap. Particularly hardware setups. There's a heavy $$$ investment that goes into it. Like literally thousands. As Russ describes in his video, that usually ends up restricting you to flying one particular plane or plane type. With Air Manager, a Knobster and a touch screen or two, you can literally for a few hundred bucks have a setup that can allow you fly any plane type you could possibly want. And Air Manager is the heart of that. It's quite literally the cheapest and most versatile home cockpit setup you could possibly get. And Air Manager is the platform on which it's built.
As far as I'm concerned for all that you're getting, they're practically giving it away at $65.
@@theworldssexiestman I will defend Air Manager by saying that unlike MSFS which sell millions of copies, home cockpit builders are a small niche market so the price has to be higher unless it is operated as a non-profit organization like Simstrumentation. Unfortunately without Air Manager Simstrumentation would not exist and without Microsoft or Laminar Research, Air Manager would not exist either. It is foolish to expect these enterprises to operate without reasonable profits. Don't know what you do for a living but I doubt you would do it for free either unless you are retired like me. It allows me to spend countless unpaid hours trying to help others. Most people, and certainly almost all businesses, are not blessed with such an opportunity. As I said earlier, flight simulation is a somewhat expensive hobby just due to the hardware required to have a decent experience. The beautiful thing about the marketplace is that we each get to make that individual price vs. value decision and I certainly respect yours. Thanks for your comments.
@@srbarlow I might be wrong. Seeing the extremely positive comments about this program then I am going to reconsider. When many people say such good things then perhaps it IS worth the money. I could be wrong here.
Jerry
I was looking forward to seeing your video until i pressed play and you obviously have not checked your sound. WE CANT HEAR YOU??????????????????
who can afford vr glasses
Your Video heading is some what misleading. The panels are not free. I listened nearly all the way through your video with excitement until you mentioned you have to have Air manager which you have to pay money for?. The panels are not FREE!!!
That's like saying that freeware addons for the sim aren't free because you had the buy the sim. These are free add-ons for a payware software platform. Just like there are a bunch of payware addons for it as well.
@@ottopilot6536 Its like saying like it is. Your video gives the intention that these panels that are removeable and are free. For a new person using a flight simulator that sounded great. You didn't mention you needed Air manager until 7 minutes from the end. So its like what i am saying you have to have the sim in the first place to get anything free for that sim first you got to buy the sim. No point in having free sim stuff if you haven't got the sim??? We all know you can get free simmer stuff for just about anything thats why we have Engineers and programmers.
I was using your (grey) Cessna 172 switch panel for MSFS in Air Manager.
I found:
* The Beacon light and *Landing Light switches do not react on the touch screen, but they do move when other linked switches are flipped.
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It took a while but I found the problem.
fs2020_variable_subscribe("LIGHT BEACON ON", "Bool", new_beacon_switch_pos_fsx)
Should be.................
fs2020_variable_subscribe("LIGHT BEACON", "Bool", new_beacon_switch_pos_fsx)
-- END LANDING LIGHT SWITCH
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fs2020_variable_subscribe("LIGHT LANDING ON", "Bool", new_landing_switch_pos_fsx)
Should be............
fs2020_variable_subscribe("LIGHT LANDING", "Bool", new_landing_switch_pos_fsx)
-- END LANDING LIGHT SWITCH
-------------------------------------------------------------------
All working fine now
Cheers
Alan
Is this the free panel for the C172? I suggest you increment the version number and submit the corrected version to Sim Innovations so it will be posted in the free store