The Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron - Voyage of the Damned
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- The story of a few good men's struggle, against their own commanders, their own fleet, their own ships and their own men.
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What could make an aircraft carrier obsolete
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Who doesn't know it? You want to make yourself a sandwich, you open the fridge and BAM theres like 10 - 15 japanese torpedo boats stuck in the butter. So you shoot several hundred rounds into the fridge just to see that it's actually an old banana
Going to bed and reading a good book you turn over the page and 5 JAPANESE TORPEDO BOATS charging out between the lines.
Crewed by Vickers salesmen asking if you want 14.5 inch guns with your sandwich!
None of your shots actually hitting the fridge.
Yeah I know... happens to me every morning...
@@ludgerhoutman4464 OH GOD THAT'S EVEN WORSE!!
Oh God, the mental image of this grand Russia admiral, commander of a whole fleet just standing on deck and SCREAMING at his ships because they are so shit, even though they are too far away to hear him is just hilarious
I'm dying XDDD
"What do you MEAN we have run out of binoculars?!"
If Basil Fawlty, instead of being a hotel proprietor, was a Russian Admiral. :P
At one point, he had the Kamchatka stay nearby in order to better berate them.
@@jamuraisack5503 But what if... he had made Kamchatka ITSELF his flagship?
"Hysterical sailors began yelling that they were all doomed. Correct."
"Because there was a fleet of Japanese torpedo boats waiting for them at the narrowest point between Denmark and Sweden. Incorrect."
The slightly amused deadpan delivery just does it for me.
I think everyone has it wrong. The Kamchatka was an excellent and extremely useful ship that did invaluable service for the Japanese empire.
Due to lack of binoculars, nobody noticed the suspiciously Japanese-looking crew.
...their crew should recieve a japanese medal...! 😁
My head cannon is that the Kamchatka was full of revolutionaries, and that they were fucking up intentionally to accelerate the fall of the Russian Empire. Nothing could possibly change my mind.
@@marcosdillon
There were revolutionaries scattered across pretty much the entire squadron, though.
@@bkjeong4302 He’s saying that the Kamchatka’s crew, officers included, were all revolutionaries. At least I think he is.
Throwing binoculars and screaming at the sea is a natural reaction to commanding such a abysmal fleet.
LOL...HOLY BAUSCH & LOMB, BATMAN! ;-)
Only thing worse is realising that that said binoculars was the last one on the ship because of lack of supplies..
Given the circumstances, he acted with comendable restraint. I would've ordered all of the commanding officers of the Kamchatka shot.
@@BlackStar2161 But the firing squads would have missed!
Hell, that’s just how I spend my Monday nights - looking through the binos at the rest of the week to come.
monty python: naval edition
lmao
Monty Python's Flying Fleet, Fawlty Fleet, The Benny Hill Fleet.............
2000 cigarettes filled with opium = th-cam.com/video/1qI9XSWQbkE/w-d-xo.html
" Cary on … Sailing for the Tsar "
That comparison isd surprisingly apt, with Sid James as the Admiral.
I love how the most competent sounding ship, the 'Aurora' is also the ship that every one keeps accidently hitting.
Well of course, can't have them making everyone else look worse in comparison.
It gets even better when you keep in mind that she's the only ship from the Second Pacific Squadron still in existence today.
@@ZGryphon I’m surprised the crew didn’t start a Revolution quicker.
Im sure the only reason you think Aurora sounds more "competent" is because its the only name you can pronounce.
Or because it was one of the more competently run vessels in this naval shitshow.
We owe the communists an apology. We always assumed the vast incompetence and corruption was their fault. It turns out it's just endemic to Russia in general.
Lol
Two things can be true at once. They aren't mutually exclusive.
What do you expect when alcoholism is the national pastime?
Nah, corruption flourishes in communist countries like mushrooms after rain.
Indeed. Vietnam and North Korea are clearly more competent than this!
The one dislike is from the Kamchatka
They couldn't hit the like button correctly.
@@benjaminstout941 No, they saw the like button, freaked out, screaming that it was a Japanese torpedo boat squadron, then proceeded to open fire, hitting the dislike button, before crashing into the Aurora
@@weldonwin You sir deserves a medal for that comment.
And then they sunk.
No, wait...
Just a leaky faucet.
In the frozen land of Nador, they were forced to eat the Kamchatka … And there was much rejoicing …
Odd, I distinctly remember Drachinifel only covered ships and navy battles.
I don't know why he's covering a train wreck.
What is a train if not a boat with wheels?
TheNinjaDC , It has the same effect that, we slow down to look at a car crashes. PS I hate autocorrect.
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Satire is not dead. :o)
@@Shenaldrac oof
Best comment ever!
At first it seemed like Rozhestvensky was a really angry dude.
But after hearing what he had to deal with... I understand.
He started with a temper, he ended with a nervous breakdown.
He eventually died of a heart attack after the war. I suspect this fiasco shortened his lifespan by a decade or two.
I‘m starting to wonder how the good emporer of the US Navy, Admiral King, would have handled the second pacific squadron.
I sometimes think of him, on that bridge, yelling with every last bit of force, at a far too distant Kamchatka. We've all been there
@@riograndedosulball248 throwing his binoculars overboard at it.
"Your aiming is so shit, I will engage your entire fleet with 4 ships"
That has to be the sickest burn in naval history.
Recruit Russian sailor: "haha they are only sending 4 ships"
Veteran Russian sailor: "oh shit they are only sending 4 ships"
Talk about low standards for insults
Four is overkill, two would be enough.
From the British whose gunnery would prove in the next ten years to ALSO be a pile of manure
@@looinrims When it comes to Naval insults, saying you'll keep almost all your entire fleet in port so the fight is "sporting" is a pretty sick burn.
"The Kamchatka announced it was sinking, which lead to great rejoicing amongst the fleet". I was laughing so hard it brought tears to my eyes.
“And there was much rejoicing...yay.”
They were forced to eat Robins minstrels and their was much rejoicing. Monty python and the Holy grail. Still funny although slightly modified
I laughed so much my eyes watered. Sorry for the men but I still laughed really hard. Was this the comedy channel?
@@harrisengr : History Channel meets Comedy Central.
And then it was learned that it was just a leaky pipe. Much Disappointment could be heard, felt and seen...
"Given to furious fits of temper" - After watching whole video I'm not sure whether that's really description of his personality or simply natural reaction of any person trying to do his job.
Standardowy Login both
You have to understand that the russian navy was in the same kind of state throughout his career. He needed this temper to achieve at least something.
Rudolf Schrenk
The original Pacific Squadron was a good deal more competent.
@@bkjeong4302 , yes. for two reasons: It was a long distance away from St. Petersburg and its corruption, and Admiral Makarow.
@@rudolfschrenk9411 "The Japanese have mined the seas!"
"Which seas?"
"ALL THE SEAS!"
vein throbbing intensifies
Emperor Meiji: “I must congratulate you admiral, your brilliant torpedo boat tactics have repeatedly thrown the Russian Navy into complete disarray!”
Admiral Togo: “It’s not me, Your Majesty. I’m not the one doing this.”
what torpedo boat tactics ?
@@vladraduandrei5227 It's a joke about the Russian sailors thinking random fishing boats are Japanese torpedo boats (despite being nowhere near Japan).
Emperor Meiji: "Ah, then it must be the Kage Bōto no Jutsu I instructed the Imperial Ninja Force to develop for me! They perfected it at last!"
Multiple voices from the shadows: "That wasn't us either..."
@@welshlout3400 Emperor Meji: then who ?
Admiral Togo: the Russians themselves, they thought that our torpedo boats were in the Baltic.
Emperor Meiji: Your joking right... right ?
Alternatively
“Thank you your Majesty, I’ll inform the fishermen of the world right away
Russians: So let me guess this right, you just decided to shoot up fishing Boats, BRITISH, fishing boats?
Admiral: ... Da
Russians: But you halted fire and helped rescue the survivors?
Admiral: Net! We ran away!
Russians: Where were you running to?
Admiral: Suez
Russians: The same Suez controlled by the British.
Admiral: Da.
Russians: Via British controlled Gibraltar?
Admiral: Da
Russians: So you were running away from the British by running to the British? What part of this plan did you think about?
What is this thing called "thinking"?
Random European ship: *Exists*
Russian 2nd Pacific fleet: "Is this a Japanese torpedo boat?"
Kamchatka: "One?! Its 15, and they are all attacking me and also i drove them off and also i am sinking and on fire and oh wait I am totally fine."
When in doubt -- SHOOT AND MISS.
As the Americans say, "Dont worry boys, we're suckering them into molotov range."
@@timulbrich954
Kamchatka (as the Russian fleet trains it's guns on them): uh guys what are you doing (sounds of guns loading) why are you loading the guns (ships open fire with Stormtrooper accuracy) I THOUGHT WE WERE ON THE SAME SIDE
@@snakes3425 commence 20 minutes of furious shooting before the ships run out of whatever ammo they had left over after heroically forcing the british fishing trawlers to retreat. No ship is hit, but kamchatka suffers minor splinter damage
(After Tsushima)
Admiral Rozhestvensky: Admiral Togo you're gunnery was appalling
Togo: why?
Admiral Rozhestvensky: I'm still alive
snakes3425
Lmao
Togo actually met with the poor Russian admiral after the battle
@@jinhunterslay1638 I feel bad for him man. He was a good commander but had an pathetic fleet
@@justinebautista1383 not sure about "good"...I'm sure he's average at best
@Sparky Puddins By that time, no one was competent enough to carry out the punishment.
Im so glad that the voyage of the 2nd pacific squadron was this well documented, this is a masterpiece historical comedy. It even comes with a recurring joke, the kamchatka
I haven't seen the video of the battle itself, but it also continues in the same comic vein. Having previously mistaken pretty much every object they came across for a Japanese ship, as they approached the Tsashima strait they finally came across Japanese ships in the fog... and mistook them for Russians. The Russian hospital ship actually signalled the Japanese to look out for the other Russian ships in the area, which rather removed the element of surprise.
The composition of the fleet: For what reason did they bring an *ice breaker* for for this voyage? I could be wrong but I don't think there is that much ice at the equator.
@@larsrons7937 This one actually makes sense. Vladivostok, the possible destination of the fleet and the area around it is not ice free all year round. Depending on how long the campaign was going to last they would have been rightly effd if they couldn't get into the harbor becouse of not being able to make a path.
@@grumbeard To be honest you are absolute right, I had the same thought myself. But the chance for a joke was too obvious, a ball right at my foot, I just had to shoot it. 😄 And if not for Vladivostok itself it would have been useful further up north, based at Vladivostok.
@@larsrons7937 I think that icebreaker wanted to go on a tropical vacation.
Admiral Beresford pitting 4 battleships against the entire 2nd pacific squadron and describing it as “chivalrous” is honestly one of the best diplomatic insults I’ve ever heard. He must have genuinely pitied Rozhezvensky, a LOT.
Cheeky ass brits
33:10 "The flagship was now also overrun by chameleons which proved understandably hard to find..."
*sound of uncontrolled giggling*
LOL..."Karma Chameleons," lndeed! ;-)
sadly, not really overrun...
not truly overrun sadly, if the Chameleons actually had any wish to run those ships they might have done a better job! they did not, and paid for it with their lives....
Admiral Rozhestvensky in the mean time had to be physically restrained to prevent him from manning a gun and shooting up the fleet
I love his TH-cam videos as I'm a huge Military History Buff but this was a new level of entertainment. Brilliant, funny, factual.
I propose a diving expedition to the Russian flagship. The objective is to recover the admiral's case of glasses, and see how many of the 50 were left at the time of sinking.
bificommander We will not find it, he threw the box, after he ran out.
@@warrenlehmkuhleii8472 and wouldn't you know it, there was a bunch of gear on the bridge missing too. we think he unbolted this stuff and threw it when he ran out of bincoulars
On-board the flagship at the battle of Tsushima....
Bridge officer “sir, our lookouts report they can’t make out the targets”
Admiral “how can they not see the ships, the others have no trouble spotting them!”
Bridge officer “yes sir, but they have the benefit of binoculars to scan the horizon with”
Admiral “where are our binoculars!!”
Bridge officer “leaving a breadcrumb trail all the way back to Russia on the sea floor!”
Have they actually found any of the ships sunk at at Tsushima
Daylen Hilty your talking about the Japanese province?
We need this to be turned into a miniseries and directed in a style like "The Death of Stalin". Dry, dark humor with good cinematography and a very clever direction and acting.
Edit: suck it, u/greyfawkes0
I was thinking a sitcom, complete with laugh track. I mean, the protagonist is one half Basil Fawlty and one half Edmund Blackadder.
Too bad john cleese is too old now. Would have been perfect.
I’m thinking a dark comedy.
It needs to end with the disastrous defeat at Tsushima.
@@Kaiserboo1871 Ah, like Blackadder going over the top?
@@alexandermackie7621 All I’m saying is that it needs to be a 2 parter.
The first part is about the journey, and the second part needs to be about the Battle of Tsushima and it’s aftermath.
I really have to commend the crew of the Kamchatka in their tireless efforts to be even worse than the fleet with which they were sailing. A monumental task for sure.
and another award for the crew of the Aurora for being the best-run ship in the fleet while being a magnet for fire from the rest of the fleet
Zinovy Rozhestvensky: things can't possibly get any worse.
Narrator:"and then things got worse"
Narrator: “And then the Kamchatka sent a message.”
"Things can't possibly get any worse." *SKREEEOOONNNKKK!!!* "OH, COME ON!"
"You are without doubt the worst fleet I've ever heard of."
Baltic Fleet:
"But you have heard of me."
I sail the ocean blue, I'm a saucy thing of beauty!
I'm the Baltic Fleet to you, but the 2nd Pacific Squadron on duty!
till this day they wait for a japanese captain to say
"this is the best fleet i have ever seen"
Black Sea Fleet:
"Hold my beer."
"We are the worst fleet you've ever heard of SO FAR."
@@djs164 : Vodka
"...Admiral Togo, who had been watching the Russian fleet all along..."
I just get this picture in my head like this was a movie. It starts with a man in Japanese naval uniform walking past the camera, then stopping, turning around and peering into the camera as if he's all of a sudden seen something interesting. He waves to someone out of frame, beckons them closer and points at the screen in a "you don't BELIEVE this..." kind of way.
Then every time something goes wrong for the Russians we'd get another short clip of an increasing number of Japanese naval officers, absolutely glued to the screen in rapt attention, and occasionally a hand comes up from below the frame as one of them slowly eats popcorn......
(We HAVE to make this movie....)
The reactions of the IJn officers during the movie must be:
"We get to fight more Russians? Banzai!"
"We get to fight these Russians? Banzai, I guess?"
"We had to fight *these* Russians? Poor bastards."
Who else is watching this for the tenth time just to die of laughter with Drach's classic dry wit?
- Be on fishing boat in North Sea.
- Fishing
- Suddenly you hear a faint sound
- You look to the horizon
- Lots of battleships
- They are getting closer
- Sound grows louder
- Recognize sound
- It's Yakety Sax blasting at full volume
- Ships starts firing
- "Oh no, it's the Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron"
- Tell my boatsmen not to worry
- It will be over soon
- 2 hours later
- No physical harm to us despite multiple shots at us
- "The hell was that about?"
- "Huh? What?"
- Has gone deaf from Yakety Sax
- We later fish up a pair of crushed binoculars. Must be related
Dogger bank incident
THIS ONE KILLED ME! I CAN'T! XD *keels over laughing*
Underrated comment.
"No physical harm to us" -- The Russians did manage to sink one trawler and kill two fishermen, but they promptly scored an own goal by killing a priest and a Russian sailor, turning an away win into a draw.
If anyone who makes those "song plays but y happens" videos is seeing this, please make this a real thing.
I lost it at the bit about the parrot. Just imagine that thing flying around reciting every Russian curse under the sun.
"Caw, caw *BLYAT!* "
"Debil blyat pizdec."
"Ummm... excuse me?"
"DAVAI AMBAL NI POHUI!!!"
@Jim Man Parrots can actually learn (through context) what words mean.
Maybe the parrot understood what The Admiral was feeling.
Thanks to his description here, I can only picture Admiral Rozhestvensky being played by Captain Archibald Haddock from the _Tintin_ comics, screaming random nouns at his subordinates through his megaphone in transports of fury. "Visigoths! Bashi-bazouks! Triangulators! Anacoluthons!"
Troglodytes! Iconoclasts!
You forgot "Ten thousand thundering typhoons!"
Duck-billed platypuses! Jellied eels!
@@hourlardnsaver362 Billions of bilious blue blistering barnacles!
The bit about the British wanting to go against the entire second fleet with only 4 ships is a sick burn if there ever was one.
Whenever someone asks me if I’m alright I’m gonna answer by saying
“Do you see torpedo boats?”
Panik
Better than: "Do Bears poop in the woods?"
@@bogdangabrielonete3467 .
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"The addition of a venomous serpent increased the offensive power of the ship considerably."
I like your Pikachu Profile Picture :)
Lightning Bolt! ⚡
Especially in any boarding action
"Prepare for boarding action! Ready the poisonous snake!"
@@athrowaway3487 ah yes, the famous battleship boarding actions.
maybe because it bit the commander?
My grandfather was a WW2 Sailor. Started a cabin boy and retired a harbor pilot.
I'm not going to say where or the name of the ship incase the former US Navy captain is looking at this trying to feel better by seeing the Kamchatka. His is s very short and sad tale indeed.
So my grandfather boarded a WW2 destroyer to bring her in to port. This was in the late 60s/early 70s. He took command and that is where the captain got the idea he was smarter them THE GUY PAID TO PILOT SHIPS IN....
He questioned everything my grandfather said, voicing it in front of the men on the bridge. He kept it up for a good 20 minutes. The guy was by what I was told "an idiot".
When approaching the pier the captain said they were going in at the wrong angle. My grandfather was very annoyed by now and told the guy that he knew the harbor, tides and reminded him that he was a pilot after all. The captain began to give orders countermanding my grandfather's orders. It went something like this:
Grandfather: I'm commanding this ship. I know the harbor.
Captain: No.
G: Are you going to take the com?
C: Yes.
G: OK. All of you (to the men on the bridge) are witness. The captain has refused to let me comand and has taken control of this ship.
C: (Series of orders that made no sense going against an ebb tide that was very swift)
G: You're going to hit the pier.
C: I am not.
G: I assure you that you are.
C: I'm in comand...
G: (Braces himself against the bulkhead as did anyone not directly involved with this mess.)
C: Oh....
And with that the destroyer hit the pier. Starboard side going about 100 feet against it; terrible metal tearing sound. This was followed by more orders that took her away from the pier to come around and take another try.
G: Do you relinquish or keep comand?
C: (gulp) ... relinquish.
My grandfather said this idoit,"Shouldn't comand a floating dock".
But still, STILL, not as crummy as the skipper of the Kamchatka.
If you made it this far thanks for reading.
That poor soul . . . Im SURE he can learn a lesson or 2 on what (not) to do from Kamchatka 🥳🥳
lol a classic tale
Story, bro.
I love that story. But at some point I spit my coffee out all over my computer screen from laughing. Now I have to clean it. Thanks for sharing the story.
Bless him, a true seaman and an example of patience for us all. The captain didn't happen to have... a strong Russian accent, by any chance....?
I can imagine the crew of the Kamchatka seeing a sea gull and going, "Holy hell its a torpedo boat! OPEN FIRE!"
**Seagull lands on the Kamchatka’s deck**
“My god, we’re being boarded by the Japanese!!!”
Aurora before leaving the Baltic: “Oh boy! I can’t wait to sail to battle and fight for Tsar and Empire!”
Aurora after returning to the Baltic: “the Empire cannot be saved and should be exterminated”
Which is approximately what actually happened.
More like: i serve the SOVIET UNION
@@joselorenzomendoza5534 more like...shudder...never again to the east.
@@josephdedrick9337 meanwhile... SS.Kamchatka (in her new incarnation) fires on a non-existent Ukrainian cruiser in the Barents Sea (or was it in the Kara sea, anyway, somewhere near Nizhni-Muhzhdansk) damaging a helicopter platform in the process...
Can’t really blamed them. After all the hell they’ve been through with the empire in this expedition, probably no surprise that they would actually mutinied.
kamchatka: misses every single shot
kamchatka: fires a salute, and the single salute hit the aurora
*what*
The target is the safest place to be.
This is actually exaggerated (though not by much); Kamchatka DID use a live shell for a salute and fire it at the Aurora, but it was a very near miss rather than a hit.
I was hoping the crew was having a laugh, oi Joe, wouldn't it be funny if we shot at aurora? Yeah haha bang
I laughed out loud at that one.
@@Colt45hatchback *shell hits Aurora
Crew of Kamchatka: oh blyat.
Meanwhile, in the modern day, Russia’s only aircraft carrier, the _Admiral Kuznetsov,_ sank a dry dock it was moored at, needs a tugboat escort in case it breaks down, and leaves a trail of smoke so long it can be seen from space. Some things never change!
It gets better: the reason for the tug boat and smoke? The Soviet Union, and later Russia, never bothered to build the port infrastructure to support the ship, meaning the ship's engines are always being run.
Russia’s military is materially large but the material itself is mostly junk.
I once read that thw Russian naval doctrine dismisses carriers bc they're too large amd expensive to be useful and they're giant targets for way cheaper anti ship missiles, hence the Russian navy commissioned so few.
Given the actual performance of the Russian military and its rotten core revealed in the recent months I'm quite sure that argument was nothing but another maskirovka.
And now the Moskva has been sunk by an enemy with no navy
China had a helicopter carrier catch fire while in dock. Apparently the walls had been insulated with flammable insulation instead of the expensive fireproof insulation so the contractor could pocket the savings. A welder ignited the insulation and the ship quickly burned out of control for three days.
Let me take a side bar to note that THIS particular Russian officer was NOT corrupt. Thank you your honor.
The good news is that Zinovi Roshestventsky seems to have been incorrupt, competent, and conscientious. The bad news? Why do you think he was so angry all the time?
I feel so sorry for Admiral Rozhestvensky. It shouldn't be called herding cats, it should be called holding the 2nd Pacific Squadron together. Especially considering how it all ended and him defending all his Captains even though they surely pissed him off to no end.
He should have blamed Kamchatka, after reviewing the ship logs any board of inquiry would have to side with him.
BOO!!!!
The Moscow State Circus does actually have a cat trainer. His dozen or so cats do all sorts of little stunts and tricks, but require constant bribery with food. The performance the cats put on was to my mind a little bit hit and miss -- so on average more successful than the 2nd Pacific Fleet!
@@RichWoods23 So you're saying actually herding cats is easier than coordinating that damned fleet?
Fun Fact:
Admiral Togo actually visited Rozhestvensky after the Battle when Rozhestvensky was being treated at a Japanese hospital, and he offered the following words:
“ Defeat is a common fate of a soldier. There is nothing to be ashamed of in it. The great point is whether we have performed our duty.”
Togo probably didn’t realize his words would mean more to Rozhestvensky than he intended because he had no idea what the poor guy has been through...
So true
Amazing how quickly the attitude of a culture can shift, considering how the Japanese felt about soldiers on the losing side during WW2.
@@GeraltofRivia22 TLDR, the reason Japan is so different during WW2 is because the underwent a minor coup d'etat where nationalist extremists took over all the big positions.
@@jinhunterslay1638 there was always a massive difference between army and navy mentality
@@Japcsali: The Japanese army and navy practically hated each other during WWII. At one point, the navy refused to provide fire support to army troops.
"The Kamchatka announced it was sinking, which lead to great rejoicing amongst the fleet"
They were forced to eat Robin's minstrels. And there was much rejoicing
16:51 In The Hunt For Red October novel there is an Alfa class submarine named for E.S. Politovsky. Of course, being named for a member of the Second Pacific Squadron, her luck is atrocious. On her maiden voyage she collides with a whale and is nearly lost. She later suffers a catastrophic reactor accident and sinks.
I ha e to wonder if that was intentional
I ha e to wonder if that was intentional
...forshadowing...! 😁😱
@@trekker105 Given the boat's incident record...
1st incident takes place during her sea trials : rams a whale, impact crushes ten square meters of the bow, destroys the sonar, jams a torpedo tube, almost drowns the torpedo compartment and damags almost all systems onboard. Politovsky only survives because of Ramius' skills. The repairs take one year. In the meantime, two additional Alfas have been commissioned.
2nd incident : High pressure turbine malfunctions and the ship must return to port just two days after careening.
Two more undetailed minor incidents of various gravity take place in the meantime, giving Politovky a permanent reputation of cursed ship.
5th and final incident : Politovsky, after four days of full regime, has a reactor accident and makes an emergency surface. One sailor falls on a control panel, cutting the power onboard. With no control, she sinks. Only one man survives the disaster : a cook who is washed overboard before he can lock the escape trunk in the open position. The survivors slowly suffocate to death. The worst part is that there is a US sub, USS Pogy, which assists to the scene and immediately sounds the alarm, but the rescuers aren't fast enough.
Oh, and the cook later escape burning to death when a clueless KGB agent is about to light a smoke in a hospital in an oxygen room.
Clancy probably based Politovsky's backstory on the real life Alfa K-64 which suffered a catastrophic reactor accident and was deemed a total loss and/or the Hotel-class K-19 which was nicknamed "Hiroshima" by her crew and suffered numerous accidents and breakdowns.
And then it got worse
And the Japanese victory at Tsushima strait is no longer a mystery. It was more of a mercy killing.
Indeed.
To be fair, another hour or two of fog and the fleet which wouldn't have been caught and made it.
@@joehayes9933 and then hit a rock and sink
@Jack the Gestapo that's actually what happened. Like Force Z in 1941, the Russians were literally caught by fog dropping off an hour before safety. Also, the Japanese weren't too good in the war, in fact had the original commander not had his head blown off I'd say the Japanese would've probably lost as mine warfare took its toll
Actually a Russian hospital ship gave away the fleet's position accidentally I hear.
Rozhestvensky (to the fleet): How? How do you mistake fishing boats for Japanese torpedo boats!?
Fleet: "We're sorry. It wont happen again."
*Kamchatka arrives*
Rozhestvensky: "And where in Mother Russia's bosom have you been?"
Kamchatka: "Sorry for my lateness. Got lost. But you'll be pleased to hear that I fired 300 of my shells at some Japanese torpedo boats."
Rozhestvensky: "You wasted 300 shells on Japanese torpedo boats?"
Kamchatka: "Yes but I scared them off. Strange though, They flew Swedish, German, and French flags."
Rozhestvensky: *left eye begins to twitch. Proceeds to walk to the nearest bathroom and shout incoherently.*
In fairness, the fleet was told that Japanese torpedo boats could be easily disguised as fishing boats.
Rozhetsvenky: Bring forth the crate of binoculars!
@@RamdomView That doesn't explain how torpedo boats were waiting for them in Western Europe.
Other than these peasant sailors literally had no idea where Japan was and how long the trip was going to be.
@@andrewryan4417 To elaborate, the fleet received a report from a transport stating that "four torpedo-boats which only showed lights on the mizenmast-head, so that at a distance they might be taken for fishing boats."
That combined with the facts that torpedo boats were hard to detect, that Britain was allied to Japan and that Britain built much of Japan's fleet.
@Lurking Carrier Fear does weird things to human cognition, so roughly yes.
I feel Admiral Rozhestvensky's pain.
It is somewhat of a wonder that the Second Pacific Squadron actually made it to Tsushima (relatively) intact.
I'm amazed the Russian Fleet had any ammo left when battle began and hadn't spent all of it on torpedo boats. The battle of Tsushima should be called "the Putting a Fleet out of its Misery of Tsuhima"
The Aurora: "A shining example of Naval conduct and discipline."
Also the Aurora: *[Mutinies and literally overthrows an entire government]*
The Waraboo oh yes, one shot - 70 years of destruction!
Wouldn’t you mutiny in that situation?
Bk Jeong Aurora mutined in 1917, not in 1905.
ALEX GOTTLIEB after this shitshow, and a good 12 years of royal Russian bullshit, who wouldn’t mutiny?
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Ship: *Exists*
2nd Pacific: "TORPEDO BOAT!"
Ship: *Doesn't exist*
2nd Pacific: "We're under attack! Throw the iguana!"
The hell
Throw the Iguana made my day at 2 in the morning
"Load the poisonous snake in the main batteries!"
So anyway, I started blasting.
Iguana: Assemble the Rat Corp!
The chaplan being the among the first casualties is so poetic. Vayage of the damned indeed.
Watched this three times, over 5 years.
Still the second best historical comedy, right after Allo Allo 😂
I can't express how sorry I feel for Zinovy Rozhestvensky
Symptomatic of a larger, more terminal issue
No kidding. What a shit show.
Seconded. I thought he was incompetent... until I watched this. Poor bastard's IQ must have been dropped by 50 points due to all the madness.
I'm genuinely shocked he didn't have a stroke or start executing the offending officers
I can certainly understand why his temperament was what it was if what he experienced on this voyage is any indication of what he faced day-to-day in the Tsar's navy.
You should pitch this as a movie, a two parter, the voyage there, then the battle, if you included Russian, British and Japanese actors, directors and producers, it could be bigger than Ben Hur, proving truth is a better story line than fiction, because no one would have believed this actually happened. The box of binoculars alone would be worth the admission to watch him throwing them in 3D.
Awesome idea.
would the movie be a drama or a comedy?
@@chooseyouhandle Yes
This is a great movie waiting to happen, comedy during voyage then tragedy at battle vs Togo
@@chooseyouhandle I think a dark comedy along the lines of "The Death of Stalin". It could absolutely work.
The spirit of the 2nd Pacific Squadron lives on. Russians claim the flagship of their Black Sea fleet caught fire and sank on its own, because they think this story is less embarrassing than losing it to enemy action from a country that doesn't even posses any fleet.
Not to mention the only Russian aircraft carrier who managed to sink in his own drydock
Also the Kursk Submarine whose loss could be considered black comedy.
It's a good thing they learned their lesson about ill-maintained hardware, poorly disciplined troops who don't want to be there, poor morale, incompetent leadership who got their position for toadying rather than competence, rampant corruption and incompetent diplomacy that seems determined to piss off every neutral party in the world.....right?
Both sides of the Russo- Ukraine conflict are complete dumbasses
A country that is armed and has been trained by NATO for nearly 10 years*
The Kamchatka is it's own character. God knows what they did when they got lost in that second storm. and how many "Japanese" vessels (read: neutral vessels) they destroyed. They fired 300 rounds in that time alone.
Given her gunnery and general incompetence, I can safely tell you that she most assuredly did not sink anything.
@@thoralexander9387
Ironically, that was her saving grace!
“Do you guys hear that?”
~Ship that the Kamchatka has desperately been trying to kill for the past 30 minutes
Name more iconic duo: Kamchatka + torpedo boats with operational range of 18000 km , capable of 300 knots
Dalimil Rozprým They are no boats, they are transonic Torpedo bombers
Kms Bismarck and being overhyped to the moon and back
Post-Dreadnought battleships and failing to do anything to justify their costs.
(Yes, I said it)
And fitted with cloaking devices. One has to wonder if they were fighting Kingons instead of the Japanese
Don't forget the fact that they are invisible
I winced at the irony, grimaced at the satire, and laughed at the folly, the human condition at sea, in war. The Tsar having read a telegram, telling of the defeat of the second Pacific squadron, put it in his pocket, and continued his game of tennis..
This is the second time I've watched this. It's even crazier!
If this was ever made into a film, it would be the greatest military tragi/comedy ever!!
I'd love to see a movie about this, but no one would ever believe it actually happened
Open the film with a text: what you are about to watch is the true story of the 2nd Pacific squadron. While some creative liberties have been taken we believe that this movie accurately captures the reality of the brave men on board these 45 ships.
@@XenoZbornak and the anguish of the admiral of the fleet
Funny you should say that, as that's how Audie Murphy felt about his own autobiographical movie To Hell and Back. Of course, he felt that way because he thought the audience wouldn't believe he was that badass. The Czar's Baltic Fleet, on the other hand ...
I love that the Royal Navy planned to go to war with the entire Russian 2nd Pacific fleet using only 4 ships...
... And they probably would have won!
@Brett Mitchell Veterans of what? I don't remember many naval battles in the Boer war, and it was 50 years since the Crimean war so none of the officers or sailors would have still been in service from then.
@Magni56 Beresford: I had to be sporting man!
Fisher: No! We need every ship for the Germans!
Beresford (muttering): A pair of torpedo boats could've handled them.
Ser Garlan Tyrell The Royal Navy should have trolled the 2nd Squadron with torpedo boats. 😈
@@kamchatka_survivor1959 Then again, the Russians would've probably panicked and fired everything the minute the torpedo boats showed up.
Granted they'd probably sink the Aurora instead but it would be hilariois
Wasn't it the 100 Anniversary of Trafalgar that year?so yeah,4 British battleships is more than enough.every man in the Royal Navy would have been willing to attack ina rowboat and board them if necessary.
I have three comments:
1) It's like a Greek Tragedy, as only the Russians could do it.
2) Surely the "Battle of Dogger Bank" deserves its own video.
3) Damn those Japanese ninja torpedo boats, you never know where they'll pop up!
Your com finished me off .... lmao
4) do you see torpedo boats?
@Golden Eagle phantom or sand going?
@Golden Eagle these fancy technologies... Witchcraft
I love number one.+1
Captain of the Aurora: "Target the Kamchatka!"
But sir! That's our own ship!
"If ANYONE has the right to sink that miserable tub, it should be US!"
Tonight on Top Gear 2nd Pacific Fleet:
Richard sees some fishermen,
James smokes some funny cigarettes,
And I throw some binoculars!
William D Porter: We are the worst warship in history.
Kamchatka: Hold my vodka.
*Kamchatka drops the bottle while handing it to Porter*
*Porter sinks anyway*
I mean atleast nobody was killed when porter was abandoned
Don´t forget the Mogami..5 Torpedoes,4 sunken ships..all japanese transports
@@NashmanNash Neither William D. Porter nor Mogami were as bad as Kamchatka. They only had one significant fuckup (most of the Porter's mishaps were fabricated in 1997, with only the torpedo incident and her sinking being legitimate, and the latter wasn't a case of incompetence).
@Sparky Puddins She should've won a medal for that.
Ah! The infamouse Willy D!
im dying, forget emu war. this one take the crown for ulitmate war meme.
Nobody remembers the time Japan treated to arm the emus with torpedo boats? :p
Everyone is talking about Emu war, but China once declared war on Sparrows with around 1 000 000 dead and there is still some aftermath (e.g. very few bees, and insecticides everywhere)
@@Volnas97 that one is nasty, the chinese got bitten hard back by locust and cause devastating famine. thanks mao.
The reason why a few of the sailors went insane: Gir was aboard their ship. And he sang the Doom Song. THE ENTIRE VOYAGE. Ok, fine. He occasionally spent a day singing Its A Small World continuously instead.
Me too...hahahaha
With a lot of other war stories, I'd say they deserve to be made into a movie. This deserves to be made into a sitcom.
20:00 memorializes this insane debacle "versus" the trawlers. The impact on diplomacy was obviously extremely negative.
The Kamchatka nearly started several wars on its own lol.
Imagine if that started WWI a decade early, only it's everyone kicking Russia around.
Legend says that some of the few Japanese casualties were caused by a flying snake
As opposed to the majority being due to uncontrolled laughter...
Another legend say that most of the casualties from japanese side came from mass suicide, the japanese sailors being so humiliated that such a batch of
buffoons have been sent to fight against them.
Alystas
That’s an insult to buffoons.
After the battle the Japanese hospital ships were inundated with wounded sailers; mostly bruised jaws from when they hit the floor upon seeing the operational...”capabilities” of the Russians.
I think some Japanese almost got bitten by a drugged-up Russian-speaking crocodile from Africa.
Oh my god. When you list the ships, it is like watching a heist team introduction...
Except they’re all crap
National Lampoon's Oceans 11
Every Team needs a mascot.... but what to do with a team that only consists of mascots...!?!?
Great names. Lousy officers.
The Kamchatka: “Help help! We’re sinking!”
And there was much rejoicing.
"As they prepared to depart the sweltering seas of Madagascar, the Kamchatka reported that she was sinking...and there was much rejoicing."
"Yay..."
“And this being a Russian fleet the phrase “Then Things Got Worse” “ I actually laughed out loud and am still chuckling about that line well played Sir well played indeed
You have outdone yourself here. Amazing facts, expertly told!
If you study the history of Russia, you begin to understand why "And then things got worse" is kind of a Russian proverb.
Russian proverb is "It never happened, but then again..."
"don't trust anybody, not even yourself"
-2nd Pacific Suadron
"trust, but verify"
It's been 117 years and Russian navy is *exactly* like this.
Orkish navy
I would argue that the modern navy is worse off because of the modern technology requirements in a ship and the side effects of 1990 with the corruption that ensued.
Orcish navy, the orkish navy is at least joyous@@MrViki60
@@americankid7782 Despite every single shortcoming that the 2nd Pacific Squadron had, Rozhestvensky was STILL somehow able to drag the coal-powered fleet across the world.
The modern Russian navy wouldn't be able to do the same, at least not without tugboats to be able to tow the warships.
Remember the Moskva
I love coming back to this video whenever the world has me down, it'll never get as bad as it got for the 2nd Pacific squadron
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR ...
Let's be honest, how close do you think the good admiral was to dropping a lit match into the coal dust and calling it a lifetime?
Not sure.
I guess that would have dependet on the availability of vodka.
Nicely expressed. I will try to use that before I kick the bucket!
Bird_Dog I certainly would’ve turned to the bottle
well he got it by heartattack wonder if he was mid beat down on a dumbass
"Admiral, please, you don't want to drop that match ... Look, I've brought you a shiny new pair of binoculars!"
I've always felt for V.Adm Rozhestvensky on learning even the basics of this voyage many years ago; accomplishing an astonishing logistics victory even getting his squadron to the AO only for it to be unceremoniously sunk. On learning the details? He must have been not only convinced that God was punishing him for the sins of the entire Tzar's navy, but that he was likely looking forward to death if it meant getting away from this circus
And then being punished by the Tsar and effectively having his career ruined, I'm glad at least he got respect from Admiral Togo even in defeat.
35:34
All things considered, that's really not the worst thing he could have said.
He could have asked:
*"Do you see torpedo boats?"*
Revisited this gem today, it's just as fantastic as it was 3 years ago..
And more relevant than ever
This was such a fun road trip with all of my friends. I do not appreciate you making fun of my spotting of torpedo boats though. They were actually there! I swear!
I believe that you believe you saw them. :)
Oh god; its the Kamchatka! We are all doomed!
《Runs away》
*confused screaming*
Kamchatka stop hitting Avrora !
Fuck it, I declare war on you! Prepare your remaining shells! Now, being your target instead of ally I am assured to survive.
Im a sailor IRL , and when you said the commander would scream from the bridge wing and throw his bino made me laugh so hard.....can see some of my old captain right there
This was so unexpectedly hilarious that i actually laughed out so loud that my roommate decided to check on me.
We proceeded to laugh together
Russia: ''Of course we will fuck up at logistics, that's a given.''
If history had been taught in school as presented here, we would all be historians, and fools would never be elected to high places.
Right. I hereby nominate Drachinifel for President of the Planet.
The narration could not be more perfect - British humor carefully enclosing hilarious sarcasm !
INDEED...HERE, HERE! &
HARRUMPH!
I second this, aggressively.
Rozhestvensky: Breathes
All ships: FIRE AT AURORA
Edit: This admiral is the hero we deserve
From Wikipedia we learn "Rozhestvensky lived out the last years of his life in St Petersburg as a recluse."
Can't say that I blame him.
I like to think that people tried to visit him but got binoculars chucked at them.
He died of a heart attack, not surprising given what he went through on this voyage.
Am I the only person who thinks that Drach's narration of this saga would make a huge hit Broadway musical?
"the addition of a large venomous serpent to the particular ship in question probably increased the offensive power of the ship considerably" There are some wonderfully (and quite deservedly) snarky comments in this video, but this is probably my favorite.
2nd Pacific Squadron
Formerly Baltic Squadron
Only in Russia
do they know how to play Battleship? bouth what they should stick to.
Soon to be scrap metal
Currently scrap metal on the bottom of the ocean
Literally, only possible in Russia.
@@kyle857 So correct and thank you.
Russian claims that the Moskva lit itself on fire reminded me that it's been awhile since I watched this video.
Now that you mention it, that makes actual sense, it was not a ukranian action, it was russian naval traditions!
Think it was a guy that vaped /s
For some reason, I need to watch this again...
I usually listen to your videos in car while driving somewhere ( phone via bluetooth to car stereo ) . For first time in my life i actually had to pull over , and watch the video at the resting place , coz i was laughthing so dam hard , i could not drive safely . I was laughthing so hard it hurts now , even half a hour later :)
Thanks for making this day so bright :)
I'm at work right now and i'm hoping my coworkers don't give me weird looks for how much i'm cackling.
I almost spat water all over my room while watching this and choked trying not to
@@roylu6580 For me it was 8:35 where the battleship sank that made me giggle... then it was the "NINJA JAPANESE TORPEDO BOATS" that made me howl in laughter.. and then I got broken by Kamchatka.
The first time I watched this video I laughed so hard I pissed my self. Only watch this video on an empty blatter
Really? Not even a chuckle from me. Guess I expect humans to be so stupid that I'm not taken by surprise.
(Naked Man) "Do you fear death?"
*Draws pistol and shoots the naked man*
Ecktually he was only half-naked. The question is which half of him was naked?
Mind if he was covered in coal dust, one probably couldn't tell.
@@deltavee2 *puts afew more bullets in just to be sure* ...
*Throws binoculars as well*
I wonder if he used some squid arms to form a beard before asking this....
A movie of this circus would be the highest grossing ever, a comedy for all time
I still can't believe this is real. The first time I listened to this was over a year ago, a co-worker and I on a slow night were listening to it on my Chromebook and we just kept looking at each other incredulously, how could things go this wrong this many times?, it baffles me. Its like its straight out of Monty Python.
"The story of a few good men's struggle, against their own commanders, their own fleet, their own ships and their own men.
And Kamchatka, Above all against Kamchatka"
I love how this period of Russia's "Navy" history is like one big joke; except it's not a joke. This actually happened.
Not according to Wargaming.
@@robertfousch2703 Any downvotes on this video are probably from wargaming employees or their biggest fanbois.
Why do they think it didn't happen ?0.o
@@Ironhold_Watch Russia wanting to pretend it's better than it really is probably. Propaganda so the masses dont realize how shit things are.
Comberth Ballstomp replayed
This is my all time favorite Drach video. I genuinely don’t know how many times I’ve watched it and it still makes me laugh. And feel very bad for pre-revolution Russian sailors. But mostly laugh.
Reminds me of a russian idiom. I forget the exact wording but it's something along the lines "funny happenings, not funny situation"