I cannot thank you enough for assuming modelling is hard, my heart dropped a little when you were looking at the very, VERY impressive models and you said you didn't know how hard it was. but when you assumed it was difficult my faith in humanity was restored. so many people assume art is easy.
Yeah I had a friend who used to make 3D sword models. Like although I don’t know anything about the process, modeling that level of detail is agonizing
@joshuabushman7 I have been learning 3d modeling for over a year now those models were insane. There are lots of tools and things to keep track of when doing 3d modeling, it gets pretty complex
@joshuabushman7 Sometimes, I get impatient, but I don't really know how long it will take to get good, and the better I get, the more I keep going. But when you know how to make one type of scene, it will take you some time to learn a different type of scene.
3D modeler here, the sheer magnitude of art talents in the spiderverse productions it's astonishing, as an humble junior seeing how creative they were in every department it's a delight. When real artists are let loose it's always a pleasure
@@joshuabushman7exactly 😭 thank you for saying this oh my god, artists in the industry get paid so SO badly and the vast majority of non artists either aren’t aware of this or don’t really care and just hearing a non-artist just acknowledging this is so refreshing
As someone who has lightly used the sculpt feature in blender and has no idea what it’s like to do 3D modeling, if it’s anything like the models in into and across the spider-verse then I have some serious respect for you people who make super in depth models instead of just using the inflate tool so make a jagged and rocky look… I mean, it works but the models you people make… and then how do you animate it when it’s one whole thing? I had to keep mine as dependent parts with parent joints
I go to college for 3D animation and met an animator that worked on into the spiderverse AND the emoji movie He said that working on the emoji movie felt like being sent to war and that the director was batshit insane LMFAOO 😭😭😭 and that working on spiderverse was like being sent to heaven NDKFND
i completely love how this video has a solid segment dedicated to just gushing over the art of random people in the credits- very often the names in film credits kinda just roll by but seeing so directly how incredibly passionate every single person involved is for all their art is great. i couldve watched a whole video just made up of looking at every staff member's work, so impressive
Yeah I always stay to watch the credits during movies, just cause ai know how hard people work to get their names in their at all. I wish somehow kovies credits could recognize these people more
I was one of the people that came from the eco-brutalism video. And I'm not even a bit upset. I love your style of video, and how it feels like a conversation between friends. Keep it up! Edit: this vid definitely needs more views. It's packed full of great insight of the spiderverse movies, and the animation industry as a whole
Ok but like so true, the Spiderverse movies were some of the most visually appealing movies I’ve ever witnessed, like the art is absolutely stunning. Also, keep making what ever type of content you enjoy man, because once you continue to build your community you’re bound to find your type of people, those that truly enjoy watching your content and will be their to have your back all the time :)
As a follow up to the thumbnail question, I like the explanation. Also it seems you're having tons of fun, the passion is always appreciated as I feel most creators lack that. Hope to see it stays that 'cause I love seeing your style of content.
Hi I also want to say that while phil lord and Chris Miller were instrumental in the development of spider verse, a big part of the visual design comes from the concept art teamed by Vaughn Ling and alberto mielgo. Alberto mielgo especially was the one responsible for the comic book look and a lot of his pre vis work for the what's up danger scene was preserved in the film. He directed the witness and Jibaro for love death and robots and is probably one of my favourite artists/animators rn please check him out! Edit: YO I GOT TO THE PART IN THE VIDEO WHERE YOU MENTIONED HIM LESGOO
True. I feel like a lot of the credit gets automatically thrown to Phil lord and Chris Miller, I actually didn't even know who Alberto Mielgo was! I feel like he should've been the first person to show up in the credits, given how influential his role was in establishing the visual style for the movie. However, this isn't mean to sweep away Lord and Miller either. They are honestly my favorite animated movie writers ever. Every single one of them is a banger. They are incredibly talented writers, but I feel like ironically they aren't that well versed when it comes to understanding how animation works. My theory as to why every animated Lord and Miller movie looks so good is because they actually give the animators full creative control. It's not like having Lord and Miller on the team suddenly makes a movie better, it's the fact that they let the artists unleash the potential they've always been holding back.
There is actually a 15 year old who worked on the movie the little bit with the legos was made by a teenager who made a fan animation of spiderverse with legos and they reached out to him to make a short section they put in the film
as someone who wishes to become an animator one day and thus am very very conscious about what goes on in the animation industry (and I know people who work in the industry who constantly share their experiences), holy shit thank you. this was so, SO refreshing to watch. the part where you showed a bunch of random artists’ portfolios and explained that most of the people who work on spiderverse also worked on the emoji movie, I audibly gasped at the fact that you’re even sharing it because you’re so absolutely correct but so many people assume bad movies are made by incompetent people when that is almost never ever the case, every single person is good enough to work for sony is GOOD. and indeed unfortunately artist mistreatment is completely normal in every visual arts industry and the entertainment industry as a whole (although spider-verse was a particularly unique case of downright horrific) all while getting paid dogshit. I just. oh my god, thank you so much for verbalizing pretty much everything I have to say about this situation, perfectly done from the perspective of a non visual artist to a non artist audience.
With the amazing current state of Sony Pictures Animation, i hope they give another chance to Lauren Faust’s Medusa and other Genndy Tartakovsky projects like Can You Imagine and Popeye.
22:07 This was the bit that made me hit Like on this video. I've seen people try to make the case that The Last Wish, Into the Spiderverse, and Mutant Mayhem all "look the same" and it drives me insane. It's like trying to say that an oil painting, a graphic novel, and a punk zine all look the same.
As some one who thought art was easy, it’s not, I wanted to draw something and thought “how hard can it be” foolish me because holy crap arts hard. Much appreciation for artists.
I can't stand when people say "everyone gonna copy Spiderverse now by blanding 2D And 3D animation". You know, thing anime does for like 15 years at least.
Mate I’ll admit I came in from the eco-brutalist video, but even still you’ve really quickly become one of my favourite TH-camrs. Your videos have that unscripted feel of a dumb conversation with a friend while still actually having a point to them. Keep up the good work cause I can genuinely see this becoming a career for you
Dude I can’t even express how absolutely flabbergasted I am there’s only like 7k views on this vid?? And your others too?? The way you do your videos is so laid back and chill, the way you set things up and talk about the stuff you genuinely enjoy is amazing and it shows in this video how excited you get when talking about these things. I’m definitely subscribing and keeping up from now on. Keep going dude, you’re going in the right direction
Ironic how this bad timeline of Sony animations is the exact thing that’s going on with Disney rn: executives only wanting to use rehashed brands and make sequels of preexisting movies that rake in cash, abusing their workers
Thank you so much for having a section just to talking about the amazing workers, this feels like such appreciation and it was needed after seeing the way the bigger people at Sony don’t care for the animators
i would genuinely love to watch an unedited 2 and a half hours of someone funny ranting about a good movie. like genuinely genuinely great video man, keep it up!
Artistic freedom really is the greatest thing when it comes to all of this stuff. Heck I think nothing exemplifies this more than the indie animation scene right here on TH-cam. So many creative people have been able to share their passion projects and even make full scale productions on this platform with little to no creative restrictions at all since they're their own boss! Like we have a whole generation of amazing Indie produced animated shows on this platform now, with the 3 biggest probably being Helluva Boss, Lackadaisy, and Murder Drones, all of which are highly praised! Whats even better is that this aint a competition for profit either, not about one outperforming the other. These creatives know that with more indie animation, everybody wins, more great stories can be told with more creativity. Plus many people in this, both newcomers and industry veterans often work across multiple indie projects! The creatives leading such projects also often seem to champion fair and uplifting work conditions, like one of the animators on Lackadaisy made a whole video on the great work process on their pilot and how it was completely open and everyone involved could see what everyone else was doing and learn from one another alongside community events and creative freedom, even down to smaller cogs in the production like individual animators. Another example being Helluva Boss, which there is slightly less known about, but where equal pay amongst its voice actors is also prioritised to be fair, no matter if the VA is a relatively small actor, or a broadway star or even celebrity, like with Kesha's role in one episode. Like we know of Helluva Boss, Lackadaisy, and Murder drones, but even beyond that there are so many smaller projects like Monkey Wrench, Tales of Zale, Ollie & Scoops, and Satina to name a few, and even more on the way like Far Fetched, and The Amazing Digital Circus. On top of projects making it from the indie animation scene into the big studio hands against the odds like Don't Hug me I'm scared, Hazbin Hotel, and to an extent Smiling Friends. Like, tldr, we see right here that when artists are given the freedom and means to make something great, they absolutely can and will do that!
I would genuinely sit and listen to you talk about spiderverse for two hours I read the desc and i want to tell you that you should delete stupid comments like that , that make you loose motivation. Your videos are really cool and i genuinely smile when i see that you posted
Thank you for really pointing out the differences between allowing workers and artists to have creative freedom vs ideas being stomped out by certain executive. I believe that creative freedom and collaboration is why we DO have really good movies out there. It's why underrepresented communities stories are being told in animation. Miles as an African American/Black superhero, Katie Mitchell as Sony's first openly queer (and neurodivergent) main character are huge inspirations for people. Plus Mitchells vs Machines is my favorite animated movie of all time due to the creative freedom allowed, and the fact that the two main directors worked on Gravity Falls.
I don't think spiderverse influenced arcane at 22:00 there are other examples to give. Although Arcane was released after spiderverse by 2 years, the studio behind arcane had already crafted that style on their own. Look at the music video "RISE" on the League of Legends youtube channel released 2 months before spiderverse and it is 100% in the style of Arcane. They've also used various other art styles over the years. Minor nitpick. I otherwise thought this was a great well researched video that gives credit to the amazing artists.
No you’re totally right. They had some people working on both arcane and spider-verse despite the studios being in different countries. I only recently learned about the studio that made arcane. If anything, arcane influenced Across The Spiderverse. Like the Hobie effect was already being done in arcane in small bits
You made some great, well-researched points! The introduction of stylized animation to Hollywood is so important!!! As an artist who works under a big studio it's frustrating to deal with a constant cycle of execs who have no sympathy for the artists dealing with the stress of the creative process, they don't seem to understand the concept of "quality over quantity". The peanuts movie was really where I started to see everything turn for the better; I'm excited for people to finally start taking animation seriously!
Absolutely amazing video(s!), I cannot believe how well structured (hehe) and entertaining your video essays are. I always save your videos to watch them later because I don't want to miss a single one. It's impressive how well you study the topics, how much work you put into it and it's pretty mind-blowing how knowledgeable you're in certain areas. I hope more people will acknowledge your work and look forward to see you grow. I adore the humour (I am, in fact, a zoomer) and your style. Also I personally find your thumbnails funny and fitting to your sense of humour, but I think that leaning more towards higher quality thumbnails might help you attract more viewers. I personally found you through the love, death, and robots video and then I accidentally discovered hidden hold when I watched your Prince of Egypt and Ecobrutalism video. Just a suggestion, it may very well be your style! I'm looking forward to more of your work!
by the way, i think your videos are so enjoyable because they have this casual like chill vibe of some dude talking about whatever he finds interesting at the time, i think if you shifted to box yourself in or to appeal to the algorithm it would kinda suck yk for everyone. all i’m saying is i love your videos because it seems that you enjoy them so just do what you enjoy
omg! Loved the video it was so interesting!!! Please consider uploading the unedited 2 hour rant about the movie!!! I would love to watch the whole thing🙌🏻
Sorry to hear about the backlash on your previous video, I think you handled it very well honestly! I enjoyed this one a lot and I’m excited to see your future content! ⭐️✨ (P.S. I could also barely understand Hobie throughout the movie I can’t wait to watch at home with subtitles 😭)
17:40 fun fact: the guy who worked on the legy part of atsv was 14 years old they hired him bc they saw he made the trailers in that sort of lego style and they admired his work
Awesome video dude - I love hearing about how the internal workings of the studio have such an impact on the movies! Seems obvious but it’s not something you automatically consider when passing judgement on a movie. Hopefully Sony’s winning streak can continue bc the Spiderverse movies and Mitchells have been just incredible
Hey man I didn’t stick around for modern art videos, I’m sticking around for your whimsical nature and based takes. Keep up the good work king You actually inspired me to touch my dusty ass video essay google doc again
Yo, I didn't even realize who I was watching until halfway through the video when Thundervision stuff started popping up. Great work with this video! The editing style is very nice, feels like I'm watching any other high quality video essay. Excited to see what content you make in the future. (Nice music choices btw)
YOOOOOOOOOO that’s actually so funny. Us band kids love a good video essay haha. Keep doing music stuff man you’re seriously one of the most talented people I’ve come across
Yo this video was awsome! Thanks for giving animation as a medium the respect and consideration and analysis that it deserves!!! As a pro artist it warms my heart hearing u talk about the medium from such a pure outside perspective!
damn it sucks that ppl were being mean to you on that other video, this is my 1st video i watched from you and i honestly think ur funny and the way you talk about animation makes it a lot more interesting than it already is, and i loved how you took the time to appreciate the ppl who made it, not just the directors, producers, etc but like the ppl who dont get enough credit making the film. also u earned a new sub :D
I work in the anim industry and wow I love how u looked up random people in the credits. It felt very validating haha, because I love to look thru the credits to find people I know or appreciate all the amazing artists in production
Yeah sometimes I wish the credits were like a yearbook or something instead of just names on a black screen. Anything to add so personality like signatures
Great video!! Very interesting topic and essay!!! Sorry that some people were being mean in the comments of the eco-brutalism video, that really sucks. Hope to eventually see some more cool videos about stuff youre passionate about!! Keep up the great work :b
Hey 3D animator here ! I don't know why but when you were complimenting and amazed at the artists working in the movie I felt really proud even though I didn't work on them. Like, yay this is the kind of reaction I want to give people when they see my work :)) Your compassion as well for the artists regarding the working conditions touched me as well. Feels good to be seen :)
Not even done with the video yet, but I am just now learning of the Sony hack and wow. Wow. Adore your style of video and how it truly seems to go in depth!!! Excited to finish the vid and watch more of ur channel later!!
I clicked on this video completely by accident. Let me tell you I have never been more happy over a mistake in my life, your video was amazing, you are so funny and cheered up my pretty bad day. You deserve all the praise in the world, I watched your other videos and am so glad I did. Each one amazing and entertaining, it scratches my short attention span in a way that not many other TH-camrs can. Thanks man, I look forward to seeing what you do next!
I came from your most recent video, but I read through your description and I have to say your Rothko/Interstellar topic sounds cool as hell and it’s a shame we won’t get to see it. It really sucks that discussions on modern art tends to attract a Certain Kind Of Crowd, but maybe a patreon or something could be a good place to make that kind of stuff (if you want ofc). Also great video, I’m trying to break into the animation industry and projects like Spiderverse motivate me to keep trying. I appreciated the breakdown of what was going on behind the scenes. Anyways absolutely subscribed and looking forward to more of your stuff, thanks and take care!
Hey, I'm not in your position and by that can't quite grasp how especially these, personal insulting comments must have felt. I admire your way of handling the situation and wish you all the best, hope you finde even more confidence to upload all you feel inspired to, but at the same time understand that it is hard and annoying because it is not your fault you feel restricted in creating and sharing, but these hateful comments are. Strange how online platforms make it apparently so easy to forget you're addressing a human being whilst being human and capable of empathy. I really enjoy your videos and how you present a topic with all the different layers involved :)
I really enjoyed the way you broke this down and I couldn’t agree more! This spider-verse style of animation is my favourite to watch because the artistry is beautiful and I’m obsessed with looking at it
I LOVED the credit game!!! I did this sort of with the hamilton cast last time I watched on Disney+ and followed almost everyone, I'm gonna start doing this with other movies and tv shows in the future
Hello fellow human. I just want to remind you real quick that most of us just leave a like and go on with our life. Even when the video really resonated with us. To post a comment is quite a lot of work, so the haters who really have a lot of time are the ones that are bothering you. Most of us, and this is true in any population, are cool. You know this, but just wanted to remind ya. Your work is cool and inspiring. I am jealous of you in more ways I am willing to admit. Right on, my dude 🤙
i am sad to hear about the awful comments but it is probably due to that engagement that u popped up on my feed. i like your tone of voice and chill energy as much as i like your thoughtful critiques and lil interjections of jokes. i am an artist and i like watching media criticism while i work on my art and i really want to watch the video about Rothko/Interstellar. please do it! yr videos are great!!
Bro i gotta say i love this video and the way you filmed and edited it. Im a TH-camr as well and I was trying to do a video during university last semester and it went so fucking bad. It was so hard to organize it and film and put it together while living in a dorm and not having anything I normally do. It seems like you had the same problems doing this video, but it turned out good anyway. Like the camera cutting out and the cut that you had to add to speak about the new info on the work conditions during the spider verse movie would have destroyed the video for me. But you just put it together and it worked really well and was still laid out nicely. Also i have adhd and i always want to put like every single thought i have into my videos but I always leave them out because I either forget or can’t find a way to put it in the video. It seems like you put every thought you had into the video but it also fits really well into the video to. It was honestly satisfying to watch because my brain always goes 1000 miles an hour watching TH-cam videos and I’m always thinking of 100 things at once and it was like you spoke about all 100 of my thoughts every moment in the video before I could get to it. it was really satisfying. I’m almost embarrassed to post this long ass comment but I’m posting it anyway whatever.
Yeah filming without a tried and true method always sucks ass lol. Like even this video my mic was messing up and now has this weird ringing sound in the video. If you watch my last video you would know how much I hate filming lol. Had to redo it twice. Anyways, glad you liked the video
Eternal blessings to you for mentioning the artists in the project as much as you did. The Spiderverse movies are the first animated films in a LONG time where I felt like the artistic vision of the project was preserved, you could see and feel how much energy was put into them. I want to write every creative who worked on those films into my will, I want their names tattooed on my body, I will say a prayer for them before I go to sleep. They deserve to be treated SO MUCH BETTER by studios.
Awesome video! honestly, i wouldn't mind listening to the whole Spiderverse rant, edited or not, just because i loved the movie and it's always fun listening to people go off about it
Feel the need to say that Wish Dragon isn’t actually terrible, it’s no masterpiece but the animation is fluid and it’s an overall fun time, in my opinion.
ok first of all Monster House was genuinely good and it's not just my nostalgia speaking I watched it again recently and it still surprisingly holds up in the kid's horror genre.
Wow hi! First off, fantastic job on this video. There are so many comments so you might not see mine and I wasn’t planning to write one until I read your description, but now I feel like keeping my thoughts to myself when awful people feel entitled to share theirs would be a mistake. I had no idea that smaller creators received such awful feedback as well. Like you have four videos and you’re STILL getting harassed?? Insane. So I totally get it if you feel that making these videos is too much work for such upsetting return. But I think you are doing a great job and the amount of time and research and effort that goes into these is INSANE. Your videos are always very funny and informative, and I always find that you bring up points I wouldn’t have considered otherwise. You have fantastic critical thinking skills! In closing, as your following increases I hope that you remember this is supposed to be something you enjoy and that you are never required to work to the point of stress and burnout just to meet the arbitrary expectations of the internet. You are doing this of your own volition and no one is entitled to your work. You are based and hell and fun to watch! Thanks again!!! :)
man, i just love your videos they always go in an unexpected direction which id so cool damn, now I can't stop thinking about the Mark Rothko/Interstellar video😂 hope you'll have an opportunity to make it someday wish you the best and the kindest viewers ❤
This is definitely my the most entertaining video I've ever watch ESPECIALLY the attention, dedication, and care you give to the artists. I too also do this but in a smaller scale. I would, bookmarked, look at an artist other socials, like, rt, all the shi just to support their hard work.
WORKERS ARE THOSE THAT UPHOLD THE REALITY OF THE WORLD. WORKERS OF THE WORLD HAVE BEEN MISTREATED FOR TOO LONG. THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION SHOULD BE IN THE HANDS OF THE WORKING CLASS. VIVA LA REVOLUCIÓN
Bruh wait. I knew I recognized the room you are in. We freaking go to the same collage. Bro wtf. Then I went back and looked at the footage from your highschool days. We grew up in the same town. Weird jump scare man
there‘s actually a 14 year old that worked on spiderverse. he did the lego-verse scene, he’s on youtube too. seriously insane talent that worked on that movie
Just found your channel. It's kind sad that it has just 4 videos, but I really liked your way of explaining the facts and instead of reading a script, you decided to have a conversation with the camera. I really enjoyed the video and I'm hoping to see more in the future. All the loves from Brazil.
seeing other people get excited about art always makes me so happy :-) humans are so creative it’s so cool and i forget to appreciate it enough sometimes. Ive never been the biggest movie analyst person ever but watching some of your videos, i think film is one of if not the best display of human creativity there is, so many uniquely crazy talented and passionate people making one big piece of art together… idk why im only just having this realization now, this is not that crazy of a take. Your videos are great though, keep it up :)
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Hey man! Glad to see you got a good milage outta that Miguel face! Keep it up!
Hey thank you so much
@@joshuabushman7open season is my favorite Sony movie
I cannot thank you enough for assuming modelling is hard, my heart dropped a little when you were looking at the very, VERY impressive models and you said you didn't know how hard it was. but when you assumed it was difficult my faith in humanity was restored. so many people assume art is easy.
Yeah I had a friend who used to make 3D sword models. Like although I don’t know anything about the process, modeling that level of detail is agonizing
@joshuabushman7 I have been learning 3d modeling for over a year now those models were insane. There are lots of tools and things to keep track of when doing 3d modeling, it gets pretty complex
@@pulevo5817 yeah I find animators and modelers to be very similar, because both of them have to have the most insane patience in the word
@joshuabushman7 Sometimes, I get impatient, but I don't really know how long it will take to get good, and the better I get, the more I keep going. But when you know how to make one type of scene, it will take you some time to learn a different type of scene.
@@pulevo5817 I'm just now trying to learn texturing in substance, it is very painful...
3D modeler here, the sheer magnitude of art talents in the spiderverse productions it's astonishing, as an humble junior seeing how creative they were in every department it's a delight.
When real artists are let loose it's always a pleasure
Agreed. And yet they still get payed like trash
@@joshuabushman7exactly 😭 thank you for saying this oh my god, artists in the industry get paid so SO badly and the vast majority of non artists either aren’t aware of this or don’t really care and just hearing a non-artist just acknowledging this is so refreshing
As someone who has lightly used the sculpt feature in blender and has no idea what it’s like to do 3D modeling, if it’s anything like the models in into and across the spider-verse then I have some serious respect for you people who make super in depth models instead of just using the inflate tool so make a jagged and rocky look… I mean, it works but the models you people make… and then how do you animate it when it’s one whole thing? I had to keep mine as dependent parts with parent joints
I go to college for 3D animation and met an animator that worked on into the spiderverse AND the emoji movie
He said that working on the emoji movie felt like being sent to war and that the director was batshit insane LMFAOO 😭😭😭 and that working on spiderverse was like being sent to heaven NDKFND
That’s actually hilarious. I mean makes sense lol
Did you do any animation
i completely love how this video has a solid segment dedicated to just gushing over the art of random people in the credits- very often the names in film credits kinda just roll by but seeing so directly how incredibly passionate every single person involved is for all their art is great. i couldve watched a whole video just made up of looking at every staff member's work, so impressive
Yeah I always stay to watch the credits during movies, just cause ai know how hard people work to get their names in their at all. I wish somehow kovies credits could recognize these people more
I was one of the people that came from the eco-brutalism video. And I'm not even a bit upset. I love your style of video, and how it feels like a conversation between friends. Keep it up!
Edit: this vid definitely needs more views. It's packed full of great insight of the spiderverse movies, and the animation industry as a whole
Thanks mate. Yeah that’s the style I go for. Laid back and not too formal
Ok but like so true, the Spiderverse movies were some of the most visually appealing movies I’ve ever witnessed, like the art is absolutely stunning. Also, keep making what ever type of content you enjoy man, because once you continue to build your community you’re bound to find your type of people, those that truly enjoy watching your content and will be their to have your back all the time :)
As a follow up to the thumbnail question, I like the explanation. Also it seems you're having tons of fun, the passion is always appreciated as I feel most creators lack that. Hope to see it stays that 'cause I love seeing your style of content.
Thanks mate
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@@sofiatejada8741 Brits aren’t the only ones who use the phrase/slang “mate”
Ur vids make me wish school let people make edited video essays as submissions for assignments more often, I’d put sm hard work into that shit 😭
EXACTLY LIKE OMG
Hi I also want to say that while phil lord and Chris Miller were instrumental in the development of spider verse, a big part of the visual design comes from the concept art teamed by Vaughn Ling and alberto mielgo.
Alberto mielgo especially was the one responsible for the comic book look and a lot of his pre vis work for the what's up danger scene was preserved in the film. He directed the witness and Jibaro for love death and robots and is probably one of my favourite artists/animators rn please check him out!
Edit: YO I GOT TO THE PART IN THE VIDEO WHERE YOU MENTIONED HIM LESGOO
True. I feel like a lot of the credit gets automatically thrown to Phil lord and Chris Miller, I actually didn't even know who Alberto Mielgo was! I feel like he should've been the first person to show up in the credits, given how influential his role was in establishing the visual style for the movie.
However, this isn't mean to sweep away Lord and Miller either. They are honestly my favorite animated movie writers ever. Every single one of them is a banger. They are incredibly talented writers, but I feel like ironically they aren't that well versed when it comes to understanding how animation works. My theory as to why every animated Lord and Miller movie looks so good is because they actually give the animators full creative control. It's not like having Lord and Miller on the team suddenly makes a movie better, it's the fact that they let the artists unleash the potential they've always been holding back.
There is actually a 15 year old who worked on the movie the little bit with the legos was made by a teenager who made a fan animation of spiderverse with legos and they reached out to him to make a short section they put in the film
as someone who wishes to become an animator one day and thus am very very conscious about what goes on in the animation industry (and I know people who work in the industry who constantly share their experiences), holy shit thank you. this was so, SO refreshing to watch. the part where you showed a bunch of random artists’ portfolios and explained that most of the people who work on spiderverse also worked on the emoji movie, I audibly gasped at the fact that you’re even sharing it because you’re so absolutely correct but so many people assume bad movies are made by incompetent people when that is almost never ever the case, every single person is good enough to work for sony is GOOD. and indeed unfortunately artist mistreatment is completely normal in every visual arts industry and the entertainment industry as a whole (although spider-verse was a particularly unique case of downright horrific) all while getting paid dogshit.
I just. oh my god, thank you so much for verbalizing pretty much everything I have to say about this situation, perfectly done from the perspective of a non visual artist to a non artist audience.
I agree with all of that. Im also aspiring to be an animator as well. Good luck to you!
@@SmolMarsh same here, but I'm trying to be more creative with designs than animation, or concept art in this instance :D
i felt like the ai generated will smith eating spaghetti after watching spiderverse, in a good way
Rest in Piece to Blue Sky. Thank you for giving me Robots. One of the best childhood memories ever.
Omg I forgot about robots. Best movie of all time
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Fun fact, a 14 year old did actually work on across the Spiderverse. He animated the Lego Spider-Man scene in the movie
surfs up is my favorite. second one was ass tho since it was just a commercial and it didnt have that same live documentary style.
Seriously, why haven’t they tried doing another mockumentary style animated movie
Don't let the haters get you down! I've loved all of your videos so far, and I hope you make a lot more
T hanks mate
With the amazing current state of Sony Pictures Animation, i hope they give another chance to Lauren Faust’s Medusa and other Genndy Tartakovsky projects like Can You Imagine and Popeye.
Especially Medusa. Such a creative movie and character
22:07 This was the bit that made me hit Like on this video. I've seen people try to make the case that The Last Wish, Into the Spiderverse, and Mutant Mayhem all "look the same" and it drives me insane. It's like trying to say that an oil painting, a graphic novel, and a punk zine all look the same.
You're easily my favorite youtuber right now, your video essay material with your editing is absolute peak
As some one who thought art was easy, it’s not, I wanted to draw something and thought “how hard can it be” foolish me because holy crap arts hard. Much appreciation for artists.
I can't stand when people say "everyone gonna copy Spiderverse now by blanding 2D And 3D animation". You know, thing anime does for like 15 years at least.
Exactly.
Mate I’ll admit I came in from the eco-brutalist video, but even still you’ve really quickly become one of my favourite TH-camrs. Your videos have that unscripted feel of a dumb conversation with a friend while still actually having a point to them. Keep up the good work cause I can genuinely see this becoming a career for you
Hey thanks mate. Yeah that’s the type of vibe I go for so good thing it’s going through
Dude I can’t even express how absolutely flabbergasted I am there’s only like 7k views on this vid?? And your others too?? The way you do your videos is so laid back and chill, the way you set things up and talk about the stuff you genuinely enjoy is amazing and it shows in this video how excited you get when talking about these things. I’m definitely subscribing and keeping up from now on. Keep going dude, you’re going in the right direction
Ironic how this bad timeline of Sony animations is the exact thing that’s going on with Disney rn: executives only wanting to use rehashed brands and make sequels of preexisting movies that rake in cash, abusing their workers
Thank you so much for having a section just to talking about the amazing workers, this feels like such appreciation and it was needed after seeing the way the bigger people at Sony don’t care for the animators
Amazing video!
Loved how much attention you gave to all the arts and artists!
Extremely excited for future content from this channel.
i would genuinely love to watch an unedited 2 and a half hours of someone funny ranting about a good movie. like genuinely genuinely
great video man, keep it up!
Artistic freedom really is the greatest thing when it comes to all of this stuff. Heck I think nothing exemplifies this more than the indie animation scene right here on TH-cam. So many creative people have been able to share their passion projects and even make full scale productions on this platform with little to no creative restrictions at all since they're their own boss! Like we have a whole generation of amazing Indie produced animated shows on this platform now, with the 3 biggest probably being Helluva Boss, Lackadaisy, and Murder Drones, all of which are highly praised!
Whats even better is that this aint a competition for profit either, not about one outperforming the other. These creatives know that with more indie animation, everybody wins, more great stories can be told with more creativity. Plus many people in this, both newcomers and industry veterans often work across multiple indie projects! The creatives leading such projects also often seem to champion fair and uplifting work conditions, like one of the animators on Lackadaisy made a whole video on the great work process on their pilot and how it was completely open and everyone involved could see what everyone else was doing and learn from one another alongside community events and creative freedom, even down to smaller cogs in the production like individual animators. Another example being Helluva Boss, which there is slightly less known about, but where equal pay amongst its voice actors is also prioritised to be fair, no matter if the VA is a relatively small actor, or a broadway star or even celebrity, like with Kesha's role in one episode.
Like we know of Helluva Boss, Lackadaisy, and Murder drones, but even beyond that there are so many smaller projects like Monkey Wrench, Tales of Zale, Ollie & Scoops, and Satina to name a few, and even more on the way like Far Fetched, and The Amazing Digital Circus. On top of projects making it from the indie animation scene into the big studio hands against the odds like Don't Hug me I'm scared, Hazbin Hotel, and to an extent Smiling Friends.
Like, tldr, we see right here that when artists are given the freedom and means to make something great, they absolutely can and will do that!
I would genuinely sit and listen to you talk about spiderverse for two hours
I read the desc and i want to tell you that you should delete stupid comments like that , that make you loose motivation. Your videos are really cool and i genuinely smile when i see that you posted
He should just release it uncut and unfiltered to his patrons or something
Thank you for really pointing out the differences between allowing workers and artists to have creative freedom vs ideas being stomped out by certain executive. I believe that creative freedom and collaboration is why we DO have really good movies out there. It's why underrepresented communities stories are being told in animation. Miles as an African American/Black superhero, Katie Mitchell as Sony's first openly queer (and neurodivergent) main character are huge inspirations for people. Plus Mitchells vs Machines is my favorite animated movie of all time due to the creative freedom allowed, and the fact that the two main directors worked on Gravity Falls.
Bro talking how Sony made a perfect sequel, but isn’t talking about how this was a perfect sequel to his eco-brutalist video. You rock, dude.
Thanks man. Means a lot
Sony is planning on doing more movies with Genndy Tartakovsky including a slate of movies for teens and adults which is exciting
I don't think spiderverse influenced arcane at 22:00 there are other examples to give. Although Arcane was released after spiderverse by 2 years, the studio behind arcane had already crafted that style on their own. Look at the music video "RISE" on the League of Legends youtube channel released 2 months before spiderverse and it is 100% in the style of Arcane. They've also used various other art styles over the years.
Minor nitpick. I otherwise thought this was a great well researched video that gives credit to the amazing artists.
No you’re totally right. They had some people working on both arcane and spider-verse despite the studios being in different countries. I only recently learned about the studio that made arcane. If anything, arcane influenced Across The Spiderverse. Like the Hobie effect was already being done in arcane in small bits
You made some great, well-researched points! The introduction of stylized animation to Hollywood is so important!!! As an artist who works under a big studio it's frustrating to deal with a constant cycle of execs who have no sympathy for the artists dealing with the stress of the creative process, they don't seem to understand the concept of "quality over quantity". The peanuts movie was really where I started to see everything turn for the better; I'm excited for people to finally start taking animation seriously!
I love this "limited animation but 3D" era
Coming from eco brutalist vid, channel's a vibe dude. Went back and saw the prince of egypt one too, I dig it
Absolutely amazing video(s!), I cannot believe how well structured (hehe) and entertaining your video essays are. I always save your videos to watch them later because I don't want to miss a single one. It's impressive how well you study the topics, how much work you put into it and it's pretty mind-blowing how knowledgeable you're in certain areas. I hope more people will acknowledge your work and look forward to see you grow. I adore the humour (I am, in fact, a zoomer) and your style.
Also I personally find your thumbnails funny and fitting to your sense of humour, but I think that leaning more towards higher quality thumbnails might help you attract more viewers. I personally found you through the love, death, and robots video and then I accidentally discovered hidden hold when I watched your Prince of Egypt and Ecobrutalism video. Just a suggestion, it may very well be your style!
I'm looking forward to more of your work!
by the way, i think your videos are so enjoyable because they have this casual like chill vibe of some dude talking about whatever he finds interesting at the time, i think if you shifted to box yourself in or to appeal to the algorithm it would kinda suck yk for everyone. all i’m saying is i love your videos because it seems that you enjoy them so just do what you enjoy
omg! Loved the video it was so interesting!!! Please consider uploading the unedited 2 hour rant about the movie!!! I would love to watch the whole thing🙌🏻
Thanks but that shi staying in the vault lmao
It was really cool that you looked at the work done by people further into the credits!
Love that this isn't just about Sony Animation but animation as a whole and how artists DESERVE fair treatment.
Its almost funny how changing the most simplest things can transform into something beautiful. Loved this vid. Keep it up 🎉
Sorry to hear about the backlash on your previous video, I think you handled it very well honestly! I enjoyed this one a lot and I’m excited to see your future content! ⭐️✨
(P.S. I could also barely understand Hobie throughout the movie I can’t wait to watch at home with subtitles 😭)
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fun fact: the guy who worked on the legy part of atsv was 14 years old
they hired him bc they saw he made the trailers in that sort of lego style and they admired his work
Awesome video dude - I love hearing about how the internal workings of the studio have such an impact on the movies! Seems obvious but it’s not something you automatically consider when passing judgement on a movie. Hopefully Sony’s winning streak can continue bc the Spiderverse movies and Mitchells have been just incredible
Agreed. The movies they have promised look super cool so far. Even if they aren’t great at least they’ll be creative
Hey man I didn’t stick around for modern art videos, I’m sticking around for your whimsical nature and based takes. Keep up the good work king
You actually inspired me to touch my dusty ass video essay google doc again
this is the first video of yours i've seen, but ngl i would 100% watch your unedited 2.5 hour rant about across the spider-verse
Your content/perspective is so cool, keep up the good work! I hope your channel blows up soon
Thanks
Yo, I didn't even realize who I was watching until halfway through the video when Thundervision stuff started popping up. Great work with this video! The editing style is very nice, feels like I'm watching any other high quality video essay. Excited to see what content you make in the future. (Nice music choices btw)
YOOOOOOOOOO that’s actually so funny. Us band kids love a good video essay haha. Keep doing music stuff man you’re seriously one of the most talented people I’ve come across
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This is an insanely good attention grabbing narrative break, you're gonna go far kid
Yo this video was awsome! Thanks for giving animation as a medium the respect and consideration and analysis that it deserves!!! As a pro artist it warms my heart hearing u talk about the medium from such a pure outside perspective!
damn it sucks that ppl were being mean to you on that other video, this is my 1st video i watched from you and i honestly think ur funny and the way you talk about animation makes it a lot more interesting than it already is, and i loved how you took the time to appreciate the ppl who made it, not just the directors, producers, etc but like the ppl who dont get enough credit making the film. also u earned a new sub :D
Not to mention the Sony hack is the reason TSAM3 was cancelled
Wait I didn’t know this wtf
You gotta post the unhinged rant SOMEWHERE. I need to listen to that shit lmao.
I just wanna say that you can’t say you remember the Lego movie without remembering the everything is awesome song!
I work in the anim industry and wow I love how u looked up random people in the credits. It felt very validating haha, because I love to look thru the credits to find people I know or appreciate all the amazing artists in production
Yeah sometimes I wish the credits were like a yearbook or something instead of just names on a black screen. Anything to add so personality like signatures
You remind me of purple, one of my favorite flavors. Keep up the good work.
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Great video!! Very interesting topic and essay!!! Sorry that some people were being mean in the comments of the eco-brutalism video, that really sucks. Hope to eventually see some more cool videos about stuff youre passionate about!! Keep up the great work :b
Hey 3D animator here ! I don't know why but when you were complimenting and amazed at the artists working in the movie I felt really proud even though I didn't work on them. Like, yay this is the kind of reaction I want to give people when they see my work :)) Your compassion as well for the artists regarding the working conditions touched me as well. Feels good to be seen :)
Not even done with the video yet, but I am just now learning of the Sony hack and wow. Wow. Adore your style of video and how it truly seems to go in depth!!! Excited to finish the vid and watch more of ur channel later!!
I clicked on this video completely by accident. Let me tell you I have never been more happy over a mistake in my life, your video was amazing, you are so funny and cheered up my pretty bad day. You deserve all the praise in the world, I watched your other videos and am so glad I did. Each one amazing and entertaining, it scratches my short attention span in a way that not many other TH-camrs can. Thanks man, I look forward to seeing what you do next!
Surf's Up is criminally underrated.
I came from your most recent video, but I read through your description and I have to say your Rothko/Interstellar topic sounds cool as hell and it’s a shame we won’t get to see it. It really sucks that discussions on modern art tends to attract a Certain Kind Of Crowd, but maybe a patreon or something could be a good place to make that kind of stuff (if you want ofc). Also great video, I’m trying to break into the animation industry and projects like Spiderverse motivate me to keep trying. I appreciated the breakdown of what was going on behind the scenes. Anyways absolutely subscribed and looking forward to more of your stuff, thanks and take care!
Love Midna's Lament playing in the background through some of it, lmao
Hey, I'm not in your position and by that can't quite grasp how especially these, personal insulting comments must have felt. I admire your way of handling the situation and wish you all the best, hope you finde even more confidence to upload all you feel inspired to, but at the same time understand that it is hard and annoying because it is not your fault you feel restricted in creating and sharing, but these hateful comments are.
Strange how online platforms make it apparently so easy to forget you're addressing a human being whilst being human and capable of empathy.
I really enjoy your videos and how you present a topic with all the different layers involved :)
I really enjoyed the way you broke this down and I couldn’t agree more! This spider-verse style of animation is my favourite to watch because the artistry is beautiful and I’m obsessed with looking at it
I LOVED the credit game!!! I did this sort of with the hamilton cast last time I watched on Disney+ and followed almost everyone, I'm gonna start doing this with other movies and tv shows in the future
Where is the door in his room, it looks like he’s trapped in there
Actual amazing quality content!! These are hard to come by in mordern TH-cam, but I'm super glad you keep making them!!
I think they make a generic moneymaker film to the fund the actual movie they want to create.
SPYRO MUSIC IN THE BACK???? ONGSOSNSBDAHWOSO I LOVE DARK HOLLOW
Hello fellow human. I just want to remind you real quick that most of us just leave a like and go on with our life. Even when the video really resonated with us.
To post a comment is quite a lot of work, so the haters who really have a lot of time are the ones that are bothering you. Most of us, and this is true in any population, are cool.
You know this, but just wanted to remind ya.
Your work is cool and inspiring. I am jealous of you in more ways I am willing to admit. Right on, my dude 🤙
i am sad to hear about the awful comments but it is probably due to that engagement that u popped up on my feed. i like your tone of voice and chill energy as much as i like your thoughtful critiques and lil interjections of jokes. i am an artist and i like watching media criticism while i work on my art and i really want to watch the video about Rothko/Interstellar. please do it! yr videos are great!!
Bro i gotta say i love this video and the way you filmed and edited it. Im a TH-camr as well and I was trying to do a video during university last semester and it went so fucking bad. It was so hard to organize it and film and put it together while living in a dorm and not having anything I normally do. It seems like you had the same problems doing this video, but it turned out good anyway. Like the camera cutting out and the cut that you had to add to speak about the new info on the work conditions during the spider verse movie would have destroyed the video for me. But you just put it together and it worked really well and was still laid out nicely. Also i have adhd and i always want to put like every single thought i have into my videos but I always leave them out because I either forget or can’t find a way to put it in the video. It seems like you put every thought you had into the video but it also fits really well into the video to. It was honestly satisfying to watch because my brain always goes 1000 miles an hour watching TH-cam videos and I’m always thinking of 100 things at once and it was like you spoke about all 100 of my thoughts every moment in the video before I could get to it. it was really satisfying. I’m almost embarrassed to post this long ass comment but I’m posting it anyway whatever.
Yeah filming without a tried and true method always sucks ass lol. Like even this video my mic was messing up and now has this weird ringing sound in the video. If you watch my last video you would know how much I hate filming lol. Had to redo it twice. Anyways, glad you liked the video
@@joshuabushman7 lol yes i saw that video dude, holy crap. God did not want you to finish that one. Also really good tho.
"sony sells lots of things like tvs-" puts up a picture of the exact television on my dresser right now
Eternal blessings to you for mentioning the artists in the project as much as you did. The Spiderverse movies are the first animated films in a LONG time where I felt like the artistic vision of the project was preserved, you could see and feel how much energy was put into them. I want to write every creative who worked on those films into my will, I want their names tattooed on my body, I will say a prayer for them before I go to sleep. They deserve to be treated SO MUCH BETTER by studios.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
great video, don't let haters slow you down, its content like this we need
Awesome video! honestly, i wouldn't mind listening to the whole Spiderverse rant, edited or not, just because i loved the movie and it's always fun listening to people go off about it
Feel the need to say that Wish Dragon isn’t actually terrible, it’s no masterpiece but the animation is fluid and it’s an overall fun time, in my opinion.
There actually is a 14 year old that worked on the project! The guy who did the lego stuff has his own youtube channel, and he's a teenager
Lol Im so glad you mentioned Peanuts, people forget that Peanuts lowkey started the stopmotion style 3d animation
It did. Guess blue sky ended on a pretty good note
ok first of all Monster House was genuinely good and it's not just my nostalgia speaking I watched it again recently and it still surprisingly holds up in the kid's horror genre.
Wow hi! First off, fantastic job on this video. There are so many comments so you might not see mine and I wasn’t planning to write one until I read your description, but now I feel like keeping my thoughts to myself when awful people feel entitled to share theirs would be a mistake. I had no idea that smaller creators received such awful feedback as well. Like you have four videos and you’re STILL getting harassed?? Insane. So I totally get it if you feel that making these videos is too much work for such upsetting return. But I think you are doing a great job and the amount of time and research and effort that goes into these is INSANE. Your videos are always very funny and informative, and I always find that you bring up points I wouldn’t have considered otherwise. You have fantastic critical thinking skills! In closing, as your following increases I hope that you remember this is supposed to be something you enjoy and that you are never required to work to the point of stress and burnout just to meet the arbitrary expectations of the internet. You are doing this of your own volition and no one is entitled to your work. You are based and hell and fun to watch! Thanks again!!! :)
btw if u like genndy tartakovski, hes directing a 2d animated feature for sony called 'fixed', idk when its coming out but it looks beautiful
And Trolls 3 is a cult classic on Tumblr now
based off the thing you said about the concept art looking like the qctuql movie- i immediately thought of the mutant mayhem artbook.
Art is all about passion. Holywood and money made people forget that. Passion breeds skills which makes amazing works like Spiderverse.
man, i just love your videos they always go in an unexpected direction which id so cool
damn, now I can't stop thinking about the Mark Rothko/Interstellar video😂 hope you'll have an opportunity to make it someday
wish you the best and the kindest viewers ❤
This is definitely my the most entertaining video I've ever watch ESPECIALLY the attention, dedication, and care you give to the artists. I too also do this but in a smaller scale. I would, bookmarked, look at an artist other socials, like, rt, all the shi just to support their hard work.
WORKERS ARE THOSE THAT UPHOLD THE REALITY OF THE WORLD. WORKERS OF THE WORLD HAVE BEEN MISTREATED FOR TOO LONG. THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION SHOULD BE IN THE HANDS OF THE WORKING CLASS. VIVA LA REVOLUCIÓN
Bruh wait. I knew I recognized the room you are in. We freaking go to the same collage. Bro wtf. Then I went back and looked at the footage from your highschool days. We grew up in the same town. Weird jump scare man
frog and toad video sounds INCREDIBLE
This channel & these videos are so cozy 💕
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Ok but a 14 year old DID work on this movie- he actually single-handedly did the Lego scene I believe
there‘s actually a 14 year old that worked on spiderverse. he did the lego-verse scene, he’s on youtube too. seriously insane talent that worked on that movie
Awesome video. Entertaining and informative. Like genuinely the contrast between emoji movie and spiderverse is crazyy. Just subbed bro
Just found your channel. It's kind sad that it has just 4 videos, but I really liked your way of explaining the facts and instead of reading a script, you decided to have a conversation with the camera. I really enjoyed the video and I'm hoping to see more in the future. All the loves from Brazil.
Oh nice. I’m surprised how many people from Brazil like my videos but it is more than welcomed haha
seeing other people get excited about art always makes me so happy :-) humans are so creative it’s so cool and i forget to appreciate it enough sometimes. Ive never been the biggest movie analyst person ever but watching some of your videos, i think film is one of if not the best display of human creativity there is, so many uniquely crazy talented and passionate people making one big piece of art together… idk why im only just having this realization now, this is not that crazy of a take. Your videos are great though, keep it up :)
Incredibly wholesome comment, we love to see it 👍
Excited for Frog and Toad video!