Creating History: Bringing an Aesthedes back to life
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- Creating History: Bringing an Aesthedes back to life.
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I was a service engineer of Aesthedes for Japan Market, back in 1990.
It runs on OS-9, as an Operation System.
I remember you need a diskette to start up... without the diskette, it won't start up at all.
The small CRT's on your bottom is a control display. If it works, you should get a command prompt on the bottom-right screen.
The three large monitors on top... The center one is a "composite" display, where you view the Colored Vector final image. On the right monitor, you view the lineart (not-filled) image.
You can also connect an external video camera. The image of the video camera is displayed on the left screen, so you can use it as a "template" to draw a line work on the center display.
It has s RS-232C interface, so you can connect two Aesthedes with each other if you wish... "So what can you do if you have two Aesthedes?"...Well I...forgot...
The beautiful thing about Aesthedes is... it doesn't have a "beep-beep" or Click-Sound.
Instead, it "knock knock"s this very large wooden console from underneath, by some "knocker". So the operator can "feel" the response with his hand.
in 1989-1990, Aesthedes was the One-And-Only Vector Line Work design computer in the world.....until the emerging of Adobe Illustrator...
Hello,
What a nice video!
And the Asthedes retro computer, I know this device through my father, he has worked in the graphic industry all his life, and has had to deal with this computer in his working life, I always found it a fascinating device as a child, with those 3 screens, all the backlit touch keys, that kind of black magnifying glass you used to draw on that white center surface... I can still see it all as a little kid...
maybe a small tip, the Asthedes I'm talking about was used at a large printing company (which has since passed into another company), the printing company where the Asthedes was used for years has been the SDU in The Hague, later after a fuss (1995) the entire printing company was moved to Haarlem, where the company is still located after many fussies, nowadays the company is called Idemia.
Before my father retired about 3 years ago he told me that Asthedes computer was still in use occasionally, and sometimes needed for some complicated graphic designs, maybe still...?
So probably there is also a complete Asthedes 2 collecting dust somewhere... you can of course contact the above-mentioned printing company in Haarlem, perhaps for additional information, parts or for such a black sign magnifying glass, who knows...
Anyway, good luck with the Asthedes further!
Wow! I remember seeing this amazing machine in a nostalgia nerd video some 3 years ago! So happy y'all got it up and running. Made me laugh when the PSU manufacturer said, Oh don't worry about the green stuff leaking out of them. Its ok. Makes me wonder what it is. I was guessing electrolytic capacitors failing. That would probably be the biggest issue to overcome with a project like this. I restore old tube TV's as a hobby (from the 50s-60's) and there is nothing better than bringing an old device back to life! Keep up the great work. Cheers from New Orleans Louisiana
It was some kind of protective resin that simply liquified. Very sticky stuff, but harmless ;)
On my way to see you tomorrow morning (Friday) Would love to see (touch??) the Aesthedes, and IF POSSIBLE to show a few Demo procedures on it?
Sure, can be done. Just ask and we'll get you sorted :)
I'm amazed by this machine.
Hey Bart, wat leuk zeg. Ik speelde ooit met je in de Rockin' Kofferband. Hoop dat alles wel met jullie is! groetjes Denis
Hey Denis! Leuk om eens van je te horen. Ik herinner het nog zeker ja. Mocht je een keer in de buurt zijn, kom gerust langs hè ;)
@@HomeComputerMuseum Super leuk! Zit je nog in regio DB? We komen binnenkort zeker bij je langs ,😻🙏🏽
Great system, looking @ the keyboard (or keytable)..it looks more like something that ran away from a set of Space 1999 or Star Trek or something like that...incredible machine 🙂
incredible things going on here. Keep up!
Amazing job on resurrecting this mammoth 👍
This is almost like getting the thylacine back to life again! 😄 I hope you succeed!
I read somewhere it utilised multiple M68k series cpu's per machine. Any planned insights into architecture?
Yes. It uses 2x 68020 and 2x 68882. It has 1.9MB of memory. It runs an OS called BobOS which is based on OS-9, but custom made for this one-purpose machine.
well i remember him saying it used something like 10 cpus in a tour several years ago, or is this a different machine? it sure looks like that one?
maybe i'm confused, it's been a while, i think it was the episode with the british guy retromancave i think, that's how i found this channel in the first place ;)
but yeah that leaves a lot of questions open in terms of (shared) memory architecture, the speeds that can be reached when accessed by all cpus, and all that kind of stuff, i doubt they work anything like NUMA nodes lol
i mean, it's a ring 0 cpu, right? you could probably push things into memory in a parallel way if you get the timings right, but it's going to be erratic if you don't i reckon, but you could probably even directly write to the framebuffer of the graphics, and maybe use some kind of tile-based method rendering based on memory blocks of the framebuffer
especially if you only need to push vertex data or something small like that to the respective cpus.
so it could probably work just fine when working on different jobs in different memory blocks, but may be a bit hard to deal with when trying to parallelize the same job and write to the same registers is what i'm guessing
it would be cool if they had their own ram then push that through to a faster generalized video ram or some kind of l3-cache adjacent type of thing ofcourse, but i'm not betting on it :D
@@dutchdykefinger the original Aesthedes uses 10 Motorola 68000, this one only has 2 (and 2 coprocessors). Unknown is if it was optional to add more CPU's or not, that's what we are trying to research. This kind of documentation is gone and is being rebuild based on memory of people who worked with it. So, this is definitely not a 'done' thing. We managed to get it working based on ... nothing really ;)
@@HomeComputerMuseum right, thanks for clearing that one up :)
and yeah, that must be a ridiculously crazy effort to basically reverse engineer
sure, there's plenty documentation on general 86K cpus, but who knows what kind of extensions they may have added on the cpu architecture before even going into the problem of shared memory and threading, they come in many shapes and types, just like those old zylogs did
i mean 86ks have been quite mainstream for nearly 15 years orso, especially when you look into machines from more developing countries that usually ran on older stuff for way longer, maybe not much more than 6-7 years hardcore in western europe before they released products with different architectures,
but the amiga was wildly popular around these areas, of which the cpus are crazy derivatives of those 86ks too, which may help finding people that know about digging around silly architectural differences
not to mention the operating system, finding out what it ran on and what its based on is a feat in and by itself with a system as obscure as this, and without that, you're rudderless :)
very nice!
Thats an awesome piece of equipment! But does it have a SID?
Damn those thumbnails get better and better everytime! Props to the one and only who makes those!
Onlangs een doos oude u-matic tapes gekocht. Dit zat er tussen:
Recently bought a box of old u-matic tapes. This was among them:
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Heel gaaf! Dank voor het delen!
...wow what a typical historic way how software and firmware was proprietary back then, no install disks, just copy the content of one working unit
That looks like a nuclear power-plant's control panel.
Time to invite one of the old users to draw something :-)
We're slowly getting former employees of Aesthedes to see this and hopefully trigger their memory for more information