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  • Thanks to Scopely for sponsoring this video - Download Star Trek Fleet Command on iOS & Android and battle in the Star Trek universe here: pixly.go2cloud.org/SH3go ~ You might remember I visited the Home Computer Museum in The Netherlands a few years back. WELL, I went back, and I had a look at some of the finest exhibits this land has ever seen, including that MASSIVE Aesthedes computer!
    00:00-01:59 Intro
    01:59-03:00 Fleet Command
    03:00-06:11 Tektronix 4051
    06:11-14:54 Aesthedes
    14:54-20:14 Dial up internet in 2023
    20:14-21:31 Credits
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  • @Nostalgianerd
    @Nostalgianerd  ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Download Star Trek Fleet Command on iOS & Android and battle in the Star Trek universe here: pixly.go2cloud.org/SH3go

    • @ShiftyMoses
      @ShiftyMoses ปีที่แล้ว +5

      games like fleet command need to come with a warning

    • @FU2Max
      @FU2Max ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow this took me back a few years. Fantastic vid, thanks.

    • @timballam3675
      @timballam3675 ปีที่แล้ว

      RMC has some way to go!

    • @shanemitchell477
      @shanemitchell477 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where's the mainframe that takes up a whole room and uses tape drives?!

    • @TheStevenWhiting
      @TheStevenWhiting ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No thanks. Games like that should be avoided at all cost. They are microtransaction hell. I'd never let them sponsor me if got offered. But if the money is good I doubt blame people from taking it if needed.

  • @RichJMoneyTV
    @RichJMoneyTV ปีที่แล้ว +228

    Having your own MSN server for a museum is peak nostalgia gratification in my book.

    • @MrHack4never
      @MrHack4never ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I also noticed that they have a support account, which is a nice touch on a museum where things might misbehave or suddenly not work

    • @AMPProf
      @AMPProf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kinda sad.. Poor old server Was never to be

  • @HomeComputerMuseum
    @HomeComputerMuseum ปีที่แล้ว +320

    It was great fun to have you in the museum again!

    • @StayCoolKeto
      @StayCoolKeto ปีที่แล้ว +10

      AMAZING place, mate! wow I hope I can visit there one day👍💪

    • @Moonchild1607
      @Moonchild1607 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dat is het zeker! Fijn dat we mee kunnen genieten met deze video. 👌🏻

    • @scottgfx
      @scottgfx ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The pen for the tablet on the Aesthedes looks a lot like the pens I've used on GTCO tablets. They are still around and apparently have merged with Calcomp.

    • @miroslavhoudek7085
      @miroslavhoudek7085 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You did such a great job with the museum, amazing

    • @pascalcoole2725
      @pascalcoole2725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ik heb jaren met dat soort oude meuk gewerkt (Personal computers maar ook mainframes, mini's en allerlij rare PDP11 achtige systemen) Toch eens komen kijken, vind het heerlijk om de ouwe spullen werkend te krijgen.

  • @mrmii6596
    @mrmii6596 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I'm glad to see the CD-i prototype still has a nice home among the rest of the amazing collection in the museum. I found and donated that prototype 2 years ago now. I'm also very happy to see that Aesthedes working again. Definitely one of the most impressive computers I've ever seen.

    • @CarfDarko
      @CarfDarko ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The amount of CD-I stuff they have is awesome, it really made me feel like a 14 year old kid again believing that FMV games where the future

    • @lucasRem-ku6eb
      @lucasRem-ku6eb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My school got official kit, i was the only person of the Philips test program to understand it, even testing the old Music CD games.
      great times !
      Red Book, we knew what it was, i was close with Philips too, my school NOT !
      as a kid, Philips was my future...

  • @kdisley
    @kdisley ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That Aesthedes was giving me some complex and conflicting feelings... When I was getting set to leave school in 1992, I was determined to become a graphic designer - I had put all my eggs in one basket, and basically disregarded every subject which didn't revolve around getting into art college to work towards an eventual degree and a career in front of a draughtman's board. I went to see the careers' officer and the first question they asked was, _"Do you know anything about computers?"_ At the time, the only real experience I had was playing games on our old ZX81 and latterly Dad's Amiga, and typing up my homework on Mum's Amstrad PCW9512 - I could run a game in BASIC but that was about as far as my computing knowledge went. So I said, _"No,"_ and the careers' officer basically told me that there was no point in going to art college because by the time I had gotten a degree in paper-and-pen Graphic Design it would already be obsolete, and it would all be done on computers.
    So the Aesthedes was basically the enemy, and the reason I've never had a real career.
    Thing is, though, I later got into computers - in an attempt to make a new career for myself, my younger brother (who was part of the years below me at school who got the upgraded computer lab, and therefore was completely at home with computers - what a difference four years and a focus change in the National Curriculum makes!) suggested that I should try a Cisco CCNA course since it seemed to be up my alley. While taking the course I ended up learning a whole lot about the history of computing in general as well as networking in particular, and started to gain an appreciation for old technology... which of course eventually led me to channels like this.
    So while part of me was seething at the very existence of the Aesthedes, there was also part of me that was really interested to see it working, and was following along with what Bart was explaining about the inputs and how the displays worked. I really enjoyed seeing it in action, but I also hated myself a bit for enjoying it...!
    Very deep and complicated feelings evoked by a TH-cam curiosity video...

    • @Drew-Dastardly
      @Drew-Dastardly ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OMG. Careers' Officers - nobody but the clueless should take their advice. One told me because I am colour blind (very mild red-green that affects a LOT of males) I couldn't possibly work in Electronics, despite it being my hobby since a 7 year old. Apparently I can't see wire colours. I did work in Electronics as a service engineer but eventually switched to IT as that was more lucrative and interesting and I could see the writing on the wall for third party repair.

    • @kdisley
      @kdisley ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Drew-Dastardly I'm also red-green colourblind, and yet I was fine at graphic design... although admittedly, I did have some problems with wiring cat-5 cables on the Cisco course, but I had my teacher stand behind me telling me which colour was which (without giving away whether it was the correct wire or not, obviously!). But in fairness, who makes patch cables from scratch these days anyway?
      Weirdly, since I didn't come from an electronics background, I picked up the fibre-optics signalling module a lot quicker than everyone else in the class, but was really slow to understand the copper-wire signalling... maybe it's because I was more used to thinking about the behaviour of light than that of electricity?

  • @bjornm.3897
    @bjornm.3897 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Props to Delta, that they still got the PSU documentation after ll those years!

    • @somedutchguy7582
      @somedutchguy7582 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Delta Elektronika (not to be confused with the Taiwanese manufacturer of the same name!) is well known for its superb customer support.

  • @willemvdk4886
    @willemvdk4886 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    I feel stupid for being a Dutch vintage computer nerd never having visited the museum yet. Its a 2 hour drive. 😅 I should go soon!

    • @JacGoudsmit
      @JacGoudsmit ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I have to fly 10 hours to get there but I've been there twice. :)

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Zullen we samen gaan Willem ik ben ook nog nooit geweest en wil heel graag.
      Raar heh als je dicht bij woont is het altijd lastiger.

    • @randomsam83
      @randomsam83 ปีที่แล้ว

      Voor mij een kwartiertje.

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@randomsam83 dat is om de hoek. Dan ga je iedere keer dat je een retro urge krijgt? 😉

    • @randomsam83
      @randomsam83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CallousCoder Ik rommel het liefst met defecte vintage apparaten (thuis).

  • @AdrianMars
    @AdrianMars ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I was for a while the sole UK tech repsonsible for Aesthedes repairs and upgrades. The purchase price was vast and annual maintence costs also huge. It was obvious at the time that Corel Draw was going to kill it. It was though lovely to use. If only they had ported the software to a PC based platform, keeping the georgous user interface panel it might have stood a chance. So glad one them lives. Thanks to all concerned foe showing / exhibiting it.

    • @darkwinter6028
      @darkwinter6028 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fascinating machine. What processor architecture was it based on?
      My family had a graphics business back then, and it might give the Mac II we had a run for it’s money… (we had that Mac configured with a couple of 19” Trinitron monitors and a big digitizing tablet; and ran Freehand, Illustrator, PageMaker, and Photoshop on it. Eventually it got a Radius Rocket 68040 accelerator; and it became practical to run 3D software like Infini-D, Swivel3D, and RayDream as well)

    • @gareth1971
      @gareth1971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@darkwinter6028 The Wikipedia page says that it had 10 x Motorola 68000.

    • @jengelenm
      @jengelenm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn’t there CorelDraw software for Windows95. I vaguely remember it was free software on disc with my computer….

    • @douro20
      @douro20 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gareth1971 The original one did. This has 2x68020 and 4xEF9635 to drive the displays.

    • @vanhetgoor
      @vanhetgoor ปีที่แล้ว

      Could it be that there are some forgotten spare parts you know of, left somewhere in a corner and a maintenance manual, complete and unabridged. I am not asking it for myself but that machine is of such an outstanding beauty it has to be restored completely some sunny day.

  • @marklechman2225
    @marklechman2225 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Bloody amazing collection. I could easily spend months in there. You gotta love geeks. Across all languages, nations and ideologies, we unite for the love of tech. ❤✌️

  • @rick420buzz
    @rick420buzz ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Tektronix terminal made me think of Adama dictating his commander's log on the original Battlestar Galactica, and seeing "Computer terminals provided by Tektronix" in the show's end credits.

  • @CCP2
    @CCP2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    as a graphic designer that Aesthedes machine is really fascinating. i'd love to fiddle around with it and see if i could make it do, well, anything

  • @allanalmeidapa
    @allanalmeidapa ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Proxying like in 1996!!!! I used to deal with all that stuff. Gotta love Linux and its networking core, to help and save the world, since the beginning of the time. Congratulations for sharing.

  • @jengelenm
    @jengelenm ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can spend an entire year there and not be bored. Good job on the repairs !!!!!

  • @EricYTP
    @EricYTP ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @0:57 I mean, 95% working is more than enough to produce a few hundred corrupted Princess Sylvia clones.

  • @arjanvuik2004
    @arjanvuik2004 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have been to the Home computer museum with a few 'retro lovers' a couple of weeks ago. I really loved it. Bart is such a good sport and really knows his stuff! Anyone who loves Retro computers, and you are in the neighborhood of Helmond, you have to go to the Home computer museum.

  • @penfold7800
    @penfold7800 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Once theyve got that huge CAD graphic machine working fully, it would be great to see what that original user they got in contact with can do on it.

    • @Bata.andrei
      @Bata.andrei ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As I understand it, the original designer is no longer alive. His daughter still lives, but she doesn't have a lot of info about the machine.

    • @lucasRem-ku6eb
      @lucasRem-ku6eb ปีที่แล้ว

      CAD, nope, this is Realtime PAL editing gear

  • @Tweaker420666
    @Tweaker420666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in a small canadian town. Retro computers and games are my passion, and there is literally nothing to see or obtain within 500km. If not for this, I would never know. Thank you.

  • @Black_Revue
    @Black_Revue ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm not sure if I ever knew what this Crazy Computer was

    • @raafmaat
      @raafmaat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in that case you missed a great video!

  • @LS09God
    @LS09God ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love that you did a follow up on the crazy computer thing. I'm a Dutch guy and never heard of it, before you did that first video on it. Thumbs up.

  • @datassetteuser356
    @datassetteuser356 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seeing the little Star Wars droid light up part for part was great, as was that you could not help but reference Battlestar Galactica in the beginning. And indeed, the scanning done in that show, with the different star crafts appearing and disappearing on screen in the very same fashion, was burnt into my memory. It is such an iconic way of displaying scifi stuff to me personally. There are some videos on YT that just show graphics being "rendered" on Tectronix with some nice ambient 80s computer music, and this is just so very relaxing and fascinating. Great little video, hope to visit the museum myself this year. Cheers!

  • @markh.6687
    @markh.6687 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That Dutch computer looks like it came from Moonbase Alpha in "Space 1999".

    • @Cre80s
      @Cre80s ปีที่แล้ว

      My thoughts exactly.

  • @blueyez1980
    @blueyez1980 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is amazing. Wild to see an early spiritual ancestor of Adobe Illustrator.

  • @Fly0High
    @Fly0High ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's so awesome to see the guys at the museum are trying to keep the actual architecture of the network similar to how it was back then. Impressive!
    Also the end credit music... "Up to date news for out of date tech!"

  • @BrianMaddox
    @BrianMaddox ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember the old 300 bps modems. You could pick up the phone and scream into it and never lose connection.

  • @PavlosVinieratos
    @PavlosVinieratos ปีที่แล้ว +4

    so cool to see they figured more out about that computer! we were there one time and they were debugging some stuff on it. one of my favorite museums.
    open source and crowd source everything haha.

  • @mmadmic
    @mmadmic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll visit this museum in a near future and what I like at first look in the video, is that it reminds me a computer shop from the 80s-90s with mixed computers and boxes everywhere.

  • @retrosim4197
    @retrosim4197 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When he demoed the Tektronics machine drawing the R2D2 image, there was a striking resemblance to the 'warbook' displays shown in the original 1978 Battlestar Galactica series. I wonder if this machine was used to create those images? The time period fits.

  • @krz909_exe
    @krz909_exe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am from The Netherlands and I have to plan a visit to this warm bath… 😎

  • @Pugopugo
    @Pugopugo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice to see a Luxor ABC 1600 in the museum as well! They are the last machine produced by Luxor in the ABC range. And are quite rare, with around 400 produced. At one point I happened to own 8 of those. I will never ever again own 2% of the machines of a computer model. :)

    • @HomeComputerMuseum
      @HomeComputerMuseum ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't know that it was that rare.

    • @Pugopugo
      @Pugopugo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HomeComputerMuseum It was the last real effort from Luxor and it raised the bar a lot from their previous 8-bit series. But it was expensive and late in a time when PC started to take over.
      The Luxor 8 bit lines are interesting and were relatively widely sold here in Sweden back in the late 70:s and early 80:s. The ABC 80, the first model, was designed and produced by 3 companies in cooperation: Scandia Metric, Dataindustrier AB (DIAB) and Luxor. The first company, Scandia Metric, were early with computer educations and saw a need for a new schooling computer. They talked with DIAB and realized that they together had the competence to design the computer and peripherals, but lacked production capability for electronics and monitors. Luxor was an old manufacturer of radios, TV:s, etc, and had manufacturing experience and capability.
      The three started talks and the process was remarkably short. A first meeting was held 2 February 1978. At the end of July several prototypes were ready and the finished computer was shown 24 August the same year. One reason why they managed to produce the computer this fast was because they relied a lot on designs from DIAB. They already produced a bus computer targeted for industrial use. It used what DIAB named the 4680 bus with CPU cards, memory cards, I/O cards and whatever industrial controller cards connected to a bus with 16 bit address bus and 8 bit data bus. The ABC 80 computer had its own keyboard, a Z80 CPU, RAM and ROM but was bus wise comparable with the CPU 4680 cards. To the large bus connector at the back a breakout box could be connected, which allowed a very wide range of cards to be added. To for example add diskdrives, the disk drive controller card was added to that box. Since the bus allowed ROM modules on bus cards to be mapped into system memory the various controllers could add the necessary drivers. A lot of different cards and system enhancements were added this way. There is still a small community of ABC 80 enthusiasts in Sweden and last year I bought a new bus card with an FPGA that added SD card based HD emulation, Wifi support, separate programmable graphics output though HDMI, etc. A total of 33300 ABC 80:s were produced.
      After the relatively big success with the ABC 80 they released the ABC 800 series in 1981. It was more targeted for office use. It still used the Z80 processor but the system had several enhancements. Apart from double RAM capacity and a more advanced ROM it could take one expansion card directly, without breakout box. There were three models. The ABC 800 was an all-in-keyboard variant just as the ABC80. The ABC 802 was a compact variant with the computer inside a small screen and a separate keyboard, with diskdrives hanged on the side. The 806 was the largest variant with a separate CPU unit and separate keyboard and a screen which normally allowed color graphics. A total of 29300 ABC 800:s were made (all variants included).
      The 800 series sold, but the PC started to eat the market. One try on this is the ABC 1600, which is a completely different machine than the previous ones. It has a 68008 CPU and runs a UNIX dialect called ABCenix. As I mentioned in my previous post only 400 was made and they were relatively expensive. A system costed 47000 SEK back in 1985, which corresponds to 121693 SEK or around €10779 today. They would have needed to sell around 5000 to make the project profitable.
      After some hard years Luxor was sold to Nokia in 1985. They killed the Luxor Computers company in 1986, but tried to release a PC variant under the name ABC 1200, which is a very rare machine nowadays. DIAB also sold a more advanced UNIX machine under the name ABC 9000 for some while.

    • @noth606
      @noth606 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pugopugo I had an 806 with the card expansion cabinet thing, plus a bunch of extra cards including a few for experimentation in a control software thing, got it from my school a few years after they stopped using it in favor of PLC for automation. I also had an ABC1600, with the tiltable screen, and mouse+keyboard, and a DIAB DS90 rack server hehehe. The DIAB and ABC1600 are in a friends basement, or his moms basement now, the 806 etc I'm not sure where it went, at the time I left Sweden for good, so I found homes for all that stuff. Probably 1998 or 1999 at the latest. Haven't been back except for a short visit once many years ago. The last DIAB thing was made but as I recall less than 20 in total, most went to the Swedish navy if I recall correctly, I found some of the original guys from DIAB through chasing info and hardware through ads in magazines, and indeed ABCenix and the DIAB SysV AT&T port as well as the hardware are cross compatible, the DIAB I used to own was used to build the binaries for ABCenix GUI by Luxor at the time, or rather the sub company made for that which I forget the name of now - it was tied to DIAB. I think the whole DIAB unix reference manual still survives, which is 80% of ABCenix, in my friends moms basement in Göteborg hehe.

    • @Pugopugo
      @Pugopugo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noth606 Interesting to hear! There are quite some info to dig up and document about DIAB as well as Scandia Metric. Luxor and the ABC:s are quite good documented, but computers like Scandia Metric's Metric 85 TD is very little documented.
      I became kind of happy some years ago when I saw a roof box on a car that looked like it came from the 80:s and had "DIAB Data AB" printed on it. The company was renamed to that in 1986, after some turbulent years owner wise. That name is a bit funny as DIAB is already an achronym for Dataindustrier (computer industries) AB (aktiebolag = limited). That means that the new name contained Data two times and AB two times. :)

  • @NumptyMcNumptyface
    @NumptyMcNumptyface ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Dutch person can I just say "Cheers for the invite"?
    Probably should visit it myself some time - it's only a two and half hour from t'North.

  • @Tactical_Hotdog
    @Tactical_Hotdog ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can't wait for LGR to see this!

  • @kwikdahl
    @kwikdahl ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I still remember the dial up sound sequence... it is etched in my brain forever. What a wonderful world of internet before the curse of social media came... ugh...

    • @cmdraftbrn
      @cmdraftbrn ปีที่แล้ว

      social media did nothing but make the scourge that is humanity the forefront instead of buried in 4chan

    • @deang5622
      @deang5622 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep, social media came along and ruined it. Now isn't that the truth.

    • @StayCoolKeto
      @StayCoolKeto ปีที่แล้ว

      totally! Love that sound lol! I remember can somebody answer the phon;, they sampled the dial up sound for the song. Good days ahhhh

    • @Tweaker420666
      @Tweaker420666 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I could tell, laying in bed listening to someone connect to my c64 bbs, their connect rate by sound, and what they were doing on the bbs by the sound of the drives loading, how long, clicks, etc. Such a different time.

    • @RJRC_105
      @RJRC_105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can smell that bit of the video. The new plastic smell and the ozone from the CRTs.

  • @Dinnye01
    @Dinnye01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is so nice that the PSU manufacturer provided the scemathics. Props for them.

  • @LP64000
    @LP64000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Growing up in Norwich; Zoom and the metal scene.... (Circa 1997)
    It always warms my cockles seeing your uploads.
    (Anyone else here in their mid 40's from Norwich? Second Hand Land boi) ❤❤❤

  • @mercuryvapoury
    @mercuryvapoury ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I loved every second of this video. 1996 was the year I first discovered the internet, at college. I had an Amiga at home, and I was famed for taking a box of floppies into college every day, filling them with stuff from Aminet, taking them home, and using CrossDOS to copy everything from the disks to my Amiga's (240Mb) hard drive. I must have been one of the first users of Hotmail, though my original account has long since expired. Back then, they gave you a generous 2Mb of space. I imaged my Amiga drive several years ago, and still have saved emails dated from late 1996. Naturally, these must have came from those floppies. Good lord, I'm getting all nostalgic for stuff that happened more thanb half of my life ago.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know someone who still has a Hotmail address today. Maybe worth checking yours to see if it still works?

  • @UncleAwesomeRetro
    @UncleAwesomeRetro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really cool with the dial up connection. And that screen that burns the image on the screen, never heard about that before :) Very interesting to see.

  • @michailokeefeMooMoo
    @michailokeefeMooMoo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some amazing computers there

  • @Derpy1969
    @Derpy1969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:25 the Tek 4051 was used to generate the scanner screens for Battlestar Galactica 1978.

  • @JeroenHoningh
    @JeroenHoningh ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm from the netherlands and 52 years old. Very nostalgic seeing all these things from the past. I worked with and used NT 4, dial up modems and msn messenger back in the day. Thank you @Nostalgianerd i've been a fan of you and the content of your channel for a couple of years now. Keep up the good stuff. Greetings from the Netherlands, very close to the Johan Cruyff Arena stadium home of the Amsterdam Ajax team.

  • @royh4305
    @royh4305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro, this is really good. So interesting, was glued to the screen the whole time! That guy from the Home Computer Museum is great at explaining. Excellent collaboration, thanks!

  • @heindijs
    @heindijs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I donated my fair share of stuff to the museum. Glad to see it looking so well

  • @zaxchannel2834
    @zaxchannel2834 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:43 Bonzi Buddy, ask that darned parrot to tell you a joke

    • @tinto278
      @tinto278 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man that parrot was funny back in the day. 🤣

  • @309electronics5
    @309electronics5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Went to the museum and love all the computers they have there its fun seeing what my parents or even grandparents used as a computer back in the 19xxS and i love older computers compared to todays rgb flashy shit that cant even survive being dropped by one meter computers these where built realy well! Even tough i did not grow up in the 19xx but 2008 i love retro computers and its fun that its in my own country the netherlands so i dont have to drive hours to get there

  • @user-yr1xg5mu9j
    @user-yr1xg5mu9j ปีที่แล้ว

    I was the first person to use an Aesthedes in the ceramic industry. We used the system to create finished film work for decals that could require over 30 variations of shapes for one design. The designs could easily require over 8 colours for the single design. At the beginning this was only linework but later using a raster based system to create halftone graphics the two were combined with all the transformations created on the Aesthedes, being performed on the raster images via a Silicon Graphics computer, combining the two together. Later the same process was done using Barco software. Creator for the colour separations and Strike for the vector and transformations. So the system combined OS9 (Aesthedes), VMS (Vax) and SGI (Silicon Graphics) operating systems to talk to each other. The Aesthedes was, with restricted ownership software used to create artwork for banknotes. The cost for just the Aesthedes was about £100,00 with support costing approx £26,000 per year.

  • @pda1799
    @pda1799 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whow, that 3 monitor beast is so very cool!

  • @cuchalainngwndwyr1052
    @cuchalainngwndwyr1052 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing - seeing NT4 Server as a DC brought me waaaaay back.
    The fact these guys are piping everything via proxy to internet archive for the authentic experience is a level of genius. With genuine hardware from the period - absolute chefs kiss.
    I couldn't help but notice a little Vetrex in one of the shots - but that's incidental.
    Should I find myself in the Netherlands I would love to visit this place. Very VERY cool.

  • @martindejong3974
    @martindejong3974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see you have the other early Dutch computer too. The Aster-CT80. 0:34 (showing the Tandy section) you can see it at the top of the second rack of the right. It is the beige computer with two floppies (the black section). It above the TRS-80 model 2. But electronically the Aster CT-80 is more like a TRS-80 model 3 than the TRS-80 model 1 (AKA the "trash 80") it is a clone of as it fixes many problems the model 1 had. It doesn't have the optical appeal the Holborn had which appeared a few months earlier, but a lot more Asters were made than Holborns. There is another larger computer museum in Zwolle, that also has both an Aster and a holborn, the Bonami computer museum. It has many more computers and much more floorspace than this museum, and also has both the Aster, and the Holborn, but so much more! you should also visit Bonami.

  • @pokerandphilosophy8328
    @pokerandphilosophy8328 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In 1973, you could buy an Aesthedes computer graphics system for just $20,000 that could draw polygons and squiggly lines on a TV screen.
    In 2023, you can train an AI chat bot for just $20,000,000 that can tell knock knock jokes nearly as well as human child.

  • @garveyng
    @garveyng ปีที่แล้ว

    I am in Nigeria, in my 50s. I spent my 20s doing Windows 95, NT 4 Server, Redhat 6.2, spent a lot of time on them in the days. Was like playing with toys from another world. Thanks for showing them.

  • @banaanepit
    @banaanepit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun to see my 5,25 bay crt in the background at 18:08 :) yes its the One featured on LGR.

  • @Waifu4Life
    @Waifu4Life ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lol, same music as the "This week in retro" podcast!

  • @thesteelrodent1796
    @thesteelrodent1796 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    his explanation of what they're doing with the network was a bit confusing, but otherwise it's a really impressive collection they've assembled.

  • @TheSimArchitect
    @TheSimArchitect ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh girls just wanna have fun... (sorry, I couldn't resist 😁).
    Lovely tour, thanks!

  • @skillaxxx
    @skillaxxx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Aesthedes machine is amazing, as was that Vector CRT-with-memory screen, yet 'silly' WinRoute hit hard on the nostalgia too, forgot all about that !

  • @michac3796
    @michac3796 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everone: UPDATE YOUR OS !!11!!!1
    Dutch computer museum: no...

  • @elblanco5
    @elblanco5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This place is pure magic! I hope I can visit someday!

  • @bdp2868
    @bdp2868 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I totally can hang out and share some drinks with the museum guy :) He is so proud and aware about what is showing to you its a joy to watch :)

  • @Ratchet_effect
    @Ratchet_effect ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking at the key-pads on that awesome Aesthedes! reminds me of the show from the 80s *The Adventure Game*

  • @michiel2722
    @michiel2722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bart is explaining it absolutely briljantly! Going there is a blast. Love going there!

  • @BRBTechTalk
    @BRBTechTalk ปีที่แล้ว

    6:12 OMG That is an amazing machine. So complicated and power hungry.

  • @JasperWilliams-Juice-Factory
    @JasperWilliams-Juice-Factory 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had the pleasure of working on an Aesthedes at Holmes & Marchant in Marlow for around 5 years. It took a long time to get to grips with it but once we did it was ground breaking. In terms of devloping new business it had massive PR appeal as very few people had one and kew how to make it sing, presentations on it were like a performance. In the end we had 2 and we said it looks like the USS Enterprise flight deck to encourage clients to come and see it, and they did. Performance after performance. I would love to have a go on the Aesthedes again, once it's properly up and running.

  • @MichaelJantzen42
    @MichaelJantzen42 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live just down the street from Tektronix museum - it's very much worth a visit.

  • @jacobdavidcunningham1440
    @jacobdavidcunningham1440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these sponsor transitions as smooth as LTT

  • @canozzian
    @canozzian ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outro music approved by This Week In Retro Neil at RMC the Cave ;)

  • @Oddlot0930
    @Oddlot0930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I very much want to visit this place. Sadly travel of any kind doesn't seem to be in my future. I'd be like a kid in a candy store playing around especially with the 90's computer stuff.

  • @4wheelwarrior
    @4wheelwarrior ปีที่แล้ว

    That Aesthedes console is possibly the dopest thing I've ever seen ... !!!

  • @StephenJohnson-uk
    @StephenJohnson-uk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember the aesthedies! I was working at Tony Stone Images in the 1980s and Tony was talking to someone interested in being a contributor to the library so they could contribute images. Cannot remember if it went ahead, from memory the images were a little graphic rather than photographic…

    • @AdrianMars
      @AdrianMars 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is essentially vector based but also supports a bitmap layer, so you can include photos, but it didn't support much (any?) bitmap editing tools.

  • @Boogie_the_cat
    @Boogie_the_cat ปีที่แล้ว

    Suuuper fun behind the scenes indepth look at crazy interesting technology. Great video, mate!

  • @Dosgamert
    @Dosgamert ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome to see that they got it to work! I and I didn't know about the Archive/old-web proxy! That's just amazing. Great video!

  • @kareloh
    @kareloh ปีที่แล้ว

    Visited last week for the first time and got the grand tour from Bart. Great place with a bonkers collection and great people.

  • @Conradsonvideo
    @Conradsonvideo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was soooo cool ! Thanks for this awesome video ❤️

  • @EternalGamingNet
    @EternalGamingNet ปีที่แล้ว

    Realy enjoyed this video. really takes you back.

  • @syrus3k
    @syrus3k ปีที่แล้ว

    This museum is incredible.. I have memories of all those old setups, nt4 and really old redhat, Windows 95 etc

  • @rikroos5258
    @rikroos5258 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello,
    What a nice video!
    And the Asthedes retro computer, I know this device through my father, he has worked in the graphic industry all his life, and has had to deal with this computer in his working life, I always found it a fascinating device as a child, with those 3 screens, all the backlit touch keys, that kind of black magnifying glass you used to draw on that white center surface... I can still see it all as a little kid...
    maybe a small tip, the Asthedes I'm talking about was used at a large printing company (which has since passed into another company), the printing company where the Asthedes was used for years has been the SDU in The Hague, later after a fuss (1995) the entire printing company was moved to Haarlem, where the company is still located after many fussies, nowadays the company is called Idemia.
    Before my father retired about 3 years ago he told me that Asthedes computer was still in use occasionally, and sometimes needed for some complicated graphic designs, maybe still...?
    So probably there is also a complete Asthedes 2 collecting dust somewhere... you can of course contact the above-mentioned printing company in Haarlem, perhaps for additional information, parts or for such a black sign magnifying glass, who knows...
    Anyway, good luck with the Asthedes further!

  • @themamosians62
    @themamosians62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    such an exciting video!!!! Always love new content from you buddy! great work

    • @themamosians62
      @themamosians62 ปีที่แล้ว

      ps omg msn messenger. My first girlfriend dumped me on that

  • @NIL0S
    @NIL0S ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gods, this video gave me strong, strong nostalgia 🥲

  • @bikkyghaisai7692
    @bikkyghaisai7692 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing the internet way of things in the '90. Nostalgia indeed!

  • @krashd
    @krashd ปีที่แล้ว

    15:01 Hearing him talk about dial up and then seeing that Diamond box on the shelf reminded me of my Diamond SupraMax 56K modem, that was a great modem and I still have it somewhere.

  • @CarfDarko
    @CarfDarko ปีที่แล้ว

    That is the ULTIMATE sleeper pc cabinet!
    Love the video, love the machine, keep up the creativity :)

  • @HankMegens
    @HankMegens ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw this machine in action at the 1984 grafivak at the RAI congressbuilding Amsterdam, the Netherlands

  • @videomaster8580
    @videomaster8580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to program sheet metal components on the Tektronix 4051!

  • @apocs4677
    @apocs4677 ปีที่แล้ว

    right around my corner... awesome place!

  • @drunkensailor112
    @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool. I know of several video game museums and arcades here in the Netherlands, but not about this one and helmond is like 50 km from here. I will soon visit this place. Thanks

  • @_The_Jim
    @_The_Jim 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really interesting! it was great to see they actually had a bunch of stuff working and set up.

  • @ctrlaltdude
    @ctrlaltdude ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Really need to go there again. A lot has changed.

  • @damustermann
    @damustermann ปีที่แล้ว

    That TekTronix screen is amazing.

  • @howl3098
    @howl3098 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was exactly there a couple months ago..!! How amazing to see it finally working!

  • @l0g1cb0mb
    @l0g1cb0mb ปีที่แล้ว

    The memories... . To see where we've been to where we are now, 128MB on a P133 @ Mhz speed with all the peripherals you could stand, to beasts my my rig 16core hyper threaded to 32 @ over 3Ghz, 128GB ram and terabytes of storage. Lol and window is still clockin' Notepad from windows 3 if it wasn't around in 1.0 with no expanded capabilities in all the years!
    Awesome museum, super impressed! XD

  • @techkev140
    @techkev140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really liked this. Unexpected and interesting to see older (tech) ways of doing things which ran parallel to what i knew about at the time.

  • @qlum
    @qlum ปีที่แล้ว

    Was there last year, great place, guy is really good at telling the stories about the hardware. That Aesthedes is indeed the centerpiece of the whole thing.

  • @Mr_Top_Hat_Jones
    @Mr_Top_Hat_Jones ปีที่แล้ว

    That Aesthedes is badass. I’ve never even heard of that. Thanks for showing it!

  • @DeannaEarley
    @DeannaEarley ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing that redhat desktop was... Oh, the memories!

  • @keith_5584
    @keith_5584 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great troubleshooting skills. Using a microscope to find the connection scratches was brilliant.

  • @antzpantz
    @antzpantz ปีที่แล้ว

    OK, that dial-up setup REALLY brought me back... 😂😭😁

  • @johnwiiu7005
    @johnwiiu7005 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:00 look there's an IBN 5100, just what I needed for the time travel mission!

  • @alexander3554
    @alexander3554 ปีที่แล้ว

    I visited the museum last weekend for the first time and was completely blown away by the sheer size of the collection. The gratification of being able to actually use most machines is just indescribable. Bart is not only a great guy to talk to, he has also organized it all very well. Visit if you can; you'll leave smiling from ear to ear.

  • @zyxnull
    @zyxnull ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video!!!, thank you so very much

  • @H4lminator
    @H4lminator ปีที่แล้ว

    What a fantastic museum! I shoul go there as a Dutchman.

  • @Bacon420
    @Bacon420 ปีที่แล้ว

    This gave me Windows NT flashbacks. Used to teach an NT class to tech support. Startup and rebooting took most of our day! Eeeeeek.

  • @neonvoid
    @neonvoid ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic museum, definitely will visit when I'm in the Netherlands.