@@Walnarut tbf you can just forget about salubras house and just never revisit it until you pass over blue lake from resting grounds, which can be very late into the game
@@Buagg And the custom pins too! I got them on my first playthrough as soon as I realized that I would need to revisit past areas, and used them to mark e. g. impossible jumps and breakable floors.
Probably the most noteworthy example of someone like this is DarksydePhil. He will actually tell jokes or yell at the game to shut up, when it's trying to tell him something important... and then whines and says the game never told him about something.
@@VGamingJunkieVT Not to mention that he blames the game for every single little thing that goes wrong. Never his own fault. Nope. The game's just badly made is all.
You don't even gotta do that, literally on your next visit to dirtmouth you'll typically explore the new opened shop immediately and find the Quill with ease
@@5carresdechoco_292 I remember not exploring and so I missed the bench on screen under hornet... Took me 30 minutes to beat hornet because of it and it gently taught me that exploring is good and it's probably your fault if you find something unfair.
Lmaoo I click off the video, about to open the comment I look down in the comment section, as I was about to click it, I saw this master piece 😂 I literally die laughing on the spot
I'm still fairly new to hollow knight. Been playing it for a few weeks and also taking my time in between. But I love it and plan on getting the platinum. I'm already near the end of the story. Just need to cleanup and the pantheon
Remember the first time I played Hollow Knight, I didn't pay attention to the king's path, so I spent a good part of the game not knowing that I could focus soul to heal, so I still managed to get to the praying mantis lords, but I thought, " bro this game is so hard, I'll watch a video of it to see what I'm doing wrong" and in that I saw the person playing and healing and I was thinking, "man, I'm dumb as fuck".
My first time playing was playing really safe and heal alot and I died by the most piece of shit enemies XD. Laptop keyboard doesn't help either but still
I remember being stuck on Forgotten Crossroads for about 8 hours. Not because of game design or anything, I was just having too much fun running back and forth, getting into nooks and crannies, beating Brooding Mawlek before finding out about the False Knight, and just filling Sly's pockets, checking the Black Egg after doing anything. I remember at the time thinking "oh well, the game is meant to be speedrun in a few hours, so I must be near the end. Its such a sweet and wonderful game." .....then I found greenpath. And now I have 200+ hours on that file, and a radiant hall of gods, currently trying to get some bindings on P5. Looking back, at the time the crossroads felt so much larger.
@@bestaround3323 no, there is no more than the forgotten crossroads, there is no story, heck, there isn't even a game so ignore the youtube videos and play it on Roblox, it has more depth there
A score of 0 is the kind of score you give a game when it's fundamentally broken, not just because it's not your cup of tea, or you didn't understand it.
People who give a 0 star score can only give 0 or max, there is no in between for these people. Everything is either "literally the worst thing ever" or "gods gift to gaming".
@@Yuki-qs5mt one person said god in this reply section and your Christian ass goes crazyyyyyyy i love people who had a brick dropped on their head as a baby
They still gave the game a bad review, thereby dragging down the user score, which ultimately misinforms people to the quality of the game if they are thinking of buying it. Just imagine if even half of these morons would stop and think for two seconds about what a "0" actually means. The game would receive better general scores, which would mean more people would see how great it is, which would mean more people would buy it, which means Team Cherry gets more money, which means more of these type of passion project games can be made in the future. Unneccesarily dragging down a score because you're a memelord (or giving a positive one for a bad game, at that.) just harms the developers and misinforms consumers. Nothing "legend" about it.
@@RedFloyd469 Hey, progress is progress. Plus, they’re a torch in the darkness that are these salty reviews because they actually say that you SHOULD buy it and prove the others are salty. While I agree that the 0-Star is unnecessary, at least he’s not a completely stuck up bastard
@@pandaell1029 first, find out where he lives. Observe his house and figure out his daily routins. Gather members of the HK community you trust and assemble them in his local area. Assault him while he is alone and cannot receive help. Tie him up and prepare the ritual. Also make sure to dispose of evidence and potential witnesses.
There isn't much of a story to Hollow Knight. However, it is instead full of lore. Lore and story are two different things. Lore is what happened before you start playing or when you are not at a spot. It's often told through dialogue or details/changes in details or difficulty of a spot you were in before. Story is what happens in the game as you play it... SPECIFICALLY in the area you're at. The story typically bows down to you because it is told through the gameplay and your movements or things said or done by your character specifically. This is not to say Hollow Knight has no story, as you can choose where you want to go and you can go pretty much anywhere, following any path and making your own story, but it is still lacking. However, the lore is where HK shines the most and it's the lore, not the story, that Mossbag and several others focus on.
Also, I will say, lore is always the better of the two to focus on if you want to make the world feel alive. That is something some of these reviewers don't seem to understand.
Christopher Larkin’s brilliant score is what brought me into this game. My orchestra teacher had us play the Hornet theme before I even knew about it. How dare anyone disrespect the game’s greatest aspect like that?
It’s hilarious how many people expect a Metroidvania game (iconic for not holding the player’s hand and letting the player explore and find things on their own) to hold their hand and show them where everything is.
Honestly, I thought Hollow Knight was more hand-holding than Ori was. I couldn't play Ori at first but after playing Hollow Knight I literally got through Ori in 2-3 sittings. Hollow Knight is very generous with it's map system to help figure out where the next place is. So tons of laughing in this video lol.
@@terrahatvol7960 I feel kinda bad, because my experience was totally diferent. I got stuck on the first map for a lot of hours haha. But still, I love the game and already beated It with 112%
Yeah... people shouldn't play a metroidvania if they don't enjoy exploring for its own sake, getting lost, and revisiting old areas with new abilities. I also tried to get someone to play Outer Wilds, but they absolutely hated it because they didn't want to explore and learn and experiment. They just wanted to complete objectives and reach the end as fast as possible. They were pissed that their progress kept getting reset, and totally failed to realize that nothing had been lost. The "checkpoints" are the player's knowledge... and the only reason they weren't making progress is because they refused to pay attention or learn.
Getting lost for a total of over 60 hours is one of the biggest reasons I love this game so much, as it’s just so refreshing to walk through the ruined kingdom of Hallow Nest with the simple but beautiful art, the ambiance in sound for anything and everything, the soundtrack that fits in to the surroundings in such a harmony of emotion that you could just explore without purpose other than to just feel for hours upon hours, the way the game grasps you into getting lost in a way where you can always find a way other that that of which you came to find your way again. I don’t have any more words to describe exactly how I feel about getting lost, and why it’s such a big part of the experience for me.
"This game has to rely on touch damage and *attacks by the enemy* in order to make it harder." ... well props to them for realising how video games work, I bet they loved the Mario games
I remember how I bought the game because I was stressed and needed a relaxing experience. What I didn't realize is that this game is really hard for someone who's only ever played pokemon, and it wasn't relaxing. But on the other hand, I have 150 hours in the game, and I really loved it, as rage inducing it was.
Yeah, Hollow Knight is not a relaxing game. It's actually funny, my son gifted me Hollow Knight after I had complained my previous 3 games were too chill!
@@Empolo18 Stardew makes it very easy to get caught up in optimizing and making sure you get x task done by y time. There are a lot of things that can be going on at once, and managing everything become pretty taxing.
I’m not far from being 30 and I have to wonder how old this person is that they’re playing Hollow Knight but is still like “You Young Wippersnappers and your weird games! Back in my day games made sense!”
I mean they're trying to shift the market of the game to "HyPeR aCtIvE yOuNgStErS" when in reality that's the direct opposite of the person HK is for. In Hollow Knight, you die, die, die, die, and then you get the perfect run in which you don't die! The pure euphoria in that moment is something that most other games can't do. Hollow Knight requires a person with patience. (Also, don't worry, I'm bad too. It took me 8 hours to get the mantis claw XD)
@@rnaodmsomething i don’t even want to talk about the hours it took for the mantis lords heheh but i adore the lore and music and am patient so i don’t mind taking my time
I spent over 100 tries on Hornet when I first started but I now have beaten PoH. No excuse for anyone saying there is no room to improve or that the gameplay is too difficult.
Exactly! It took me 4 hours to beat Soul Master. And now, I've recently beaten NKG. People who complain about a game being too hard make me so confused. Do you want a game a toddler can beat? Like wtf lol
true, my first time playing i die to the false knight 2 e Hornet over 30, and now i almost beat PoH at first. A have like 60 hours and 99% of Achivements (2 times because i lost my save) and I went to recess and play other games.
I spent at least two hours straight of grinding to beat her. Plus an extra couple hours at different times. Beating her was the most satisfying thing ever!
it took me 4-5 hours over the course of two days to beat hornet, and the feeling of satisfaction from getting such a key ability as dashing (and also finally figuring out when it was safe to attack or not) made me love the game even more
Same, took me a while, plus I hadn't realised there was a stag station with a bench near the fight, which made everything even more annoying. But that only boosted the feeling of satisfaction I got at the end, the "I did it, by myself, I can do anything", such a great feeling that follows you through the game.
This man be milking a blank sheet of paper, apparently. My personal favorite was "little room for improvement." That means I'm almost as good as fireb0rn! (PS I am not).
Lol, at this point, one can say I'm taking several months to beat her, since I've yet to find the desire to get back on again. If I keep this up, I'll be at a year without defeating her!
The Knight actually does have a great memory, for exactly the reason you stated: it could explore the entirety of Hallownest, then sit down on a bench and draw a detailed map of the entire kingdom all at once. Only 1 bench is mandatory after all. No mind to think, lots of room to fill that little head with the memory of paths trodden and then empty it all out onto paper. ...the mandatory bench is obviously on the descent into City of Tears, alongside Quirrel. If you didn't sit down on that bench for a while on your first playthrough you are heartless :P
I actually didn't sit there at all because I ended up doing an entirely different route through the deepnest after beating the mantis Lords. I was in a constant state of fear because I ended up in a place where I felt I had no return and I would need to restart the entire game (no map, no lamp, old nail). But I found my way back, and enter city of tears from below.
@@jkf16m96 Wait a second...I think I took the same path as you! I never realized I could go through the main gate to the city of tears (I didn't realize I got the key or something), so once I cleared everything I could reach before that, I took the plunge into Deepnest (no city of tears, no desolate dive, no nail upgrades, etc.) with virtually nothing but a lantern to my name. _It was horrifying._ 10/10 experience. Would recommend, would not do it twice! And yea, the only bench for a while was at the bottom of Deepnest. Then I had to go through the ancient basin, then up to King's Station (I think I went a little bit into the kingdom's edge, hard to remember, tho). Deepnest was definitely the most terrifying part by far.
The fact that people were expecting things like a flag to show where you need to go to progress the story or bosses the strength of a husk shows how much the games of triple A companies spoiled them
this! seems everyone wants marker to point the way. they don’t want to explore, immerse themselves in the world. just a to b to beat the game for the sake of saying they beat it
The Ori games had map markers, and it didn't take away anything. It means players can consciously choose to advance the story, or avoid doing it. And they were placed in the void (like the dreamers) so you still had to explore to get there
@@adamya1639 I've never played Ori but don't be saying HK is simply better when they are just different games with differing styles. As fire said, not everyone likes every game and that's fine but keep in mind design choices work in much the same way.
Throughout Hollow Knight I frequently got stuck on bosses (for days or weeks at a time sometimes), lost tons of geo trying to get my shade back, and just generally wasted a lot of time struggling to do stuff. It's one of, if not my absolute favorite, games. I just suck at it :D
Sucking at it makes it all the more satisfying when you do finally beat that god damn boss you've been stuck on for hours, whilst slowly learning how to avoid its attacks and finding its weak spots, it feels even more satisfying.
I used to suck at it when I first played it a year ago, then I got good enough to beat p5, now I'm kinda washed but still about to beat steel soul hopefully (got lurien and monomon, just need herrah and THK to beat it)
@@RamzaBeoulves No one is saying you can't dislike the game, what they're saying is that you shouldn't say the game is bad just because YOU are bad at it or dont like it lol
You know, I had a similar experience that a lot of the bad reviewers described with my first play through of hollow knight (dying to nail knock back in stupid ways, getting lost, getting stuck, etc.), but the main difference between me and them is that I am a rational human being who can comprehend that some things are my fault, not the game’s. I eventually adapted to the nail knock back, I would go do something else if a boss was giving me too much trouble (cough cough lost kin cough cough), and if I, for example, never found shade cloak because I never turned on the lighthouse when I went there the first time, I would have just laughed it off as my being an idiot (definitely not based on a true story). Because of that, I thoroughly enjoyed the game, and would recommend to anyone
I tried beating lost kin without the double jump... It took me 2 hours to realise that I should've just gone past the broken vessel arena to get the monarch wings ability. Not that it helped cause I wasn't used to it so I just kept hitting the little ghosts eventually I gave up trying to learn to dodge with the double jump and practised patience... I got in 2 hits at a time eventually I won after a total of 4 hours of gameplay
Can relate a lot, though I didn't go completely blindly sadly. I knew about some stuff beforehand but the experience was still good for what it was, never got 112% nor completed PoP or any pantheons but I'd say I don't need them anyways, I was more in for the exploring and story this game had to offer. Probably one of the better games I've ever played.
Well now I feel stupid :)))) It took me a lot to beat Hornet the first time, but it also was the first game I played with a controller so I think that justifies it :)))
I'm 50 years old and I could still finish it. The first finish took me 122 hours and I loved all of it. I loved getting frustrated at the game being a maze that I got lost in. Best game EVER!
I used to speedrun this game and haven't played it in a while. Picked it up again the other week and spent another 15 hours just playing through normally. This game is worth more than gold.
All the reviews saying that there's no story, objective or that the game has a boring/dull graphic style obviously are from people that didn't make it past the crossroads
I think the ones talking about the graphics are trolling, the graphics are what attracts so many people’s attention to the game in the first place. And even if you don’t like them they clearly aren’t low quality.
Or just didn't read any of the literal LORE TABLETS. Heck, after you beat Hornet, and stay too long, you get forced to read a part of lore, then you have dream nail.
I can't be the only one who was so fascinated by the design and beuty of the fog canyon that I walked right into a jelly fish, tried going about my day, and then was fascinated by the design and beuty of the following explosion as I began stroking out
0:45 Hey, this happened to me on my first playthrough! I wandered into Fog Canyon before fighting Hornet, got lost, didn’t know what to do, lost interest, and said I’d come back to it later. (Though, I didn’t uninstall or leave a review.) Then, 2 years later, I came back to it, started a fresh save (seeing as I had mostly forgotten the game), and it then become one of my favorite games. 112% and beat P5. And then a few days ago (which was another 2 years after beating P5), I beat it on Steel Soul. Now at 99% on Steel Soul.
I lliteraly had the same exact expirience except that instead of The Jellyfish Pit of Doom i was stuck in the Mr. Stressball's Sanctum of Soul Finding and Yoga, then i came back months later, 112% intensifies.
When I first started playing, I was also extremely frustrated with the knockback on attack. I equipped steady body as soon as I got it. 2 or 3 fights later and Im running back to the bench to take it off again bc I got used to the knockback and now all the enemies were simply walking into me 😂
...And then, dozens of hours later, you equip steady body again and realise its tremendous power, being able to stay on top of bosses in spite of quickslash like never before
The knockback did feel a bit weird to me at first, but when I found Steady Body I thought “That costs a whole charm notch!? Forget that, I’m just going to get used to the knockback.” I still don’t use Steady Body and don’t see much of a use for it for myself.
@@sandjgaez257 I use it with quicknail to just rail and rail on enemies with no hesitation. But otherwise, yeah there's a sort of rhythm you get used to with the natural knockback that feels weird to be without if you're not intentionally breaking it.
I've broken down these complaints into 3 categories 1. I've never played a Metroidvana and have no idea how they work and why they won't hold my hand and show me where to go (funny enough HK was my first Metroidvania and I did find it confusing at times, but that's what kept drawing me back) 2. I am bad at this game, and I don't want to improve or learn (I'm no game expert myself, but if it takes you over 10 tries to beat False Knight or Hornet, you're playing the game wrong) 3. I am a boring person, who does not see a reason to have a sense of exploration for either the map or the lore, and I also have no taste in art or music.
It took me way more than 10 tries to beat Hornet the first time, it's not the end of life, but I get what you mean :) Now I'm practicing for P5 though.
its difficult to figure out navigation at first but if you just follow hornet she leads you through the first few beats of the story/to important shops you need in early game, that helped me out a ton on my first playthrough
I quite literally spent a whole month trying to beat Soul Master. Alright, alright get your laughter out. But still it was one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had with a game so people complaining the game is awful because they're stuck on a boss or something I still think is really funny. Also great video!
Don't worry, I spent about a week or 2 of on and off attempts fighting the mantis lords because I didn't upgrade my nail before fighting them. I was very happy with my charm though.
Dang dude lol. Longest I remember taking on a boss was a couple 5 -6 hour play sessions to get some of the Flawless achievements in Wings of Vi. Good persistence by you though!👍
@@Allustar same but I didn’t give my money to millibelle and then died losing my money. Started another file after that. Now I’m currently 60h in at p5 and almost have all the achievements such as finishing the game in 5 hours ( just missing things I couldn’t do on my first file and p5)
I have to admit, I had a lot of issues with the game and I couldn't finish it. Yet for some reason I don't think it's that bad. I'll be honest: I just suck at platforming. It made the game hard to play for me. Glad you guys enjoy it, though.
A guy who calls himself "not a casual player" spends 22 hours to beat hornet, in this case my sister who is very new at games must a god gamer, she beated hornet within 7 hours more or less
@@TBHWHOKNOWS hornet was very easy for me the real first challenge that i fought was mantis lord (i passed 10 hours on it) and i learned a LOT of things in there
As someone who struggled with that feeling of directionlessness: I understand that person who was second to last. I have the internal directional skills of a busted compass and there were definitely a couple times in the game where I had absolutely no idea where to go. I do still like the game because of all its other positives (solid movement & combat, good boss design outside of a couple, beautiful visuals and solid soundtrack) but that is 100% a valid feeling, though granted it's one that the Wayward Compass solves
Literally the first area of the game past the tutorial has a guy that sells you a map, and as you said, Wayward Compass, a charm you can get in that very same area, solves all issues with directionlessness. Best of all: it's entirely optional whether you wish to use it or not. Now don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I have a good sense of direction, I don't. I don't mind when a game gives you quest markers or something similar. But for Hollow Knight, there really isn't an excuse to defend this silly argument. Exploration is exactly what metroidvanias are all about. That's the draw. You don't have to like exploration, but then don't buy exploration games ffs. (not talking about you, I'm talking about the troglodytes writing these reviews.)
@@synkt8759 wayward compass is so good for people like that since it costs almost nothing, only takes up one charm notch and is accessible pretty early on in the game.
@@JustARandomPersonLol69420 my god have i used so much wayward that in some areas i dont even need it anymore lmao, some i still do becausae i visited few times or spent little time in it overall comparatively, but yeah compass was like my first buy in the beggining
honestly gotta love the reviews about the gaming being "buggy" after a whole playtrough i hadnt found a single bug, literally would have to actively look for them to find them
I finished 85% of the game in 30 hours on my first time playing the game. And you actually don't realize how long and how good the game is till you reach 8 to 10 hours of gameplay. Unlocking abilities and charm hunting is definitely one of the most entertaining aspects in the game, the story is absolutely flawless. And when I talked with my friends about this game they told me "is hollow knight this 2d game" I spent like 5 seconds to answer this question because the design made it look somehow 3d. As a casual player I can easily say that hollow knight is my favorite game and I played and finished many other games like both Spider-Man games all uncharted 1,2,3 and thief's ending, both tomb raider games, dark souls and elden rimg
During my first ever playthrough, the hornet sentinel fight made me borderline suicidal. But you know what I did? I kept playing and not only beat her, but got true ending and started work on the Pantheons. Have yet to beat P4 and haven't played in a while, but your videos are convincing me to play again, just like how it finally convinced me to buy the game itself.
This is my experience, just swap P4 for P3 - Sly was a gatekeeper for me for a good couple of months. I can safely say that the only moment more satisfying than finally getting my ass kicked by Pure Vessel in five seconds was when I beat Mantis Lords for the first time and they bowed to me. Such a proud moment for someone who sucks at games.
This is the same for me but for Pure Vessel. All the other bosses I beat with someone looking over my shoulder, able to analyze the bosses pattern better than I bcs I was busy dodging. Pure Vessel was super speedy and I couldn't find a way to react quick enough. Few days later I beat him. I was so proud I almost cried. Then, recently, I beat NKG in less than an hour 30 and holy crap did I realize 'I'm actually kinda good at this game' and I was super happy. HK actually helped me with my mental health in various ways such as giving me a good sleep schedule bcs I had to wake up at 7 to beat my brother to the xbox with enough time to beat WP or Radiance. It also helped me not get angry at myself when I fail!
If you have the mental and/or motivation, you can get better and more consistent in the pantheons and actually master lot of the bosses. I'm still surprising myself for example, after getting some of the bindings now. I can now beat Pure Vessel without restrictions about 9/10 times. It took a lot of effort though. I was as bad as worst of these reviews at first.
Pure vessel is such a fun fight. The only two bosses that pose a challenge to me at this point are absolute radiance because it's such a long fight. And grey prince zote because he makes me angry. But even though those are at the end of PoH I keep trying it. And now I think back to when I died around 60 times to hornet. Good times.
The highlight of my playthrough that first comes to mind is the nightmare king Grimm fight. The ambience, the heart in the background, the music giving it a feeling like it's a dance where one miss step means you die just feels amazing! It's so intense and fun that even though I kept getting angry and my hands started to hurt my burning urge to win and sheer enjoyment of the whole thing just made me say "okay one more try". And then half an hour later on my 20th last try I said the same thing. Improving and succeeding just felt amazing and finally beating him after so long knowing how much I had to improve and get better just made it even better. To me nightmare king Grimm shows that a burning desire to improve and succeed along with just sheer enjoyment can go a super super SUPER long way.
@Oyou Graphics: It’s an art style. Just because it’s cartoonish doesn’t mean it looks like a 9 year old drew it. Backgrounds are also extremely detailed and animations are clean. Simple art style also means more people can easily draw fan art, which is something a lot of fans of the game enjoy. The darkness makes sense, you’re underground most of the time. Not dull either, I just think you’re monitor is broken. Music: I don’t know what to say. Maybe you just hate pianos that much. If the Greenpath, I mean…”jungle”…music drove you insane, then you probably have some other mental issue. Greenpath is the most calm and inviting theme in the entire game. Difficulty: The game isn’t that easy man. You saying just spam heal tells me you never got that far into the game. Plenty of bosses punish you for healing in the open, so you’re required to dodge and manage your soul in order to not die. That’s where the difficulty comes from. With your logic every game in the world is easy because “just dodge and heal”. Gameplay: Having a single weapon and three spells isn’t a bad thing. The reason it works so well is because your charms can augment how you play. You can build around nail arts, build around your spells, build around your dash doing the damage for you, build around nail spam which you seem to favor. Later in the game you unlock new movement abilities that alter how you approach dodging attacks. Enemy design is also consistently evolving and testing your ability to use all of your options together. It’s fun to learn how to master each skill, which is why so many people still play this game years later Lore: Common complaint I hear for this game and other game like Dark Souls. Yes, the story is very non-linear, but if you don’t understand the premise by the end of the game then that’s your fault. I completely understood there was an infection, I was a vessel, and vessels are the only beings that can contain the infection. By the time I defeated the Hollow Knight, I completely understood what my adventure was about without looking up a video or checking the wiki. I understand it doesn’t work for some people, but that doesn’t mean it is bad. Characters: The characters aren’t supposed to go on some elaborate developmental character arc. Most are side characters that the player may or may not talk to, so there isn’t enough time for all of them. Even then, Quirrel and Cloth at least get their respective arcs still. Cornifer is a map man, he sells maps. You shouldn’t expect any other development from the map guy and if you do you are just being picky. Zote is also a joke character. He exists to make you laugh, which is why he is a meme and nothing more. Hornet is a character the majority of people care about. She’s the only true child of the Pale King and serves as Hallownest’s last defender. Upon meeting you she is dismissive and thinks of you as nothing else but another stray vessel unfit to become anything more. As she follows you in your adventure she becomes less hostile and instead respects your presence. After you prove yourself she gives you the Kingsbrand and pushes you to become the next Hollow Knight. This culminates in the true ending where she flies in during the fight and helps you enter the Hollow Knight’s mind to defeat the radiance. There’s the change you begged for. It’s right there and you ignored it. Ergonomy: Walls that can be broken are visibly cracked and walls that can be passed through don’t have a flat wall, floor, or ceiling. Your eyes do the work and if you think you have to hit EVERY single wall you are just being stupid. The game is not overrated
@Oyou My dude really complaining about the backgrounds being dull and sad when the game's set in a *fallen kingdom*, and about the gameplay being uninteresting when you're the one who didn't bother to explore and do interesting things..? What in the world...? What are you, a gamer-Karen?
@Oyou “Difficulty:None” I’m starting to feel you just watched a walkthrough of the game and didn’t actually play it. Cause Hollow Knight has some difficult bosses such as NKG, Absolute Radiance, Pure Vessel, Markoth, and several more.
@Oyou bruh Celeste story is linear while hollow knight is non-linear (because metroidvaina) also the way you complained about the games art style is like complaining that iron lung looks like crap and you can make the game better on blender Also 1- the is no true ending (as stated by the dev) 2- spells do way more damage than your knife (forgot what it was called ) without charms even your knife is fully Upgraded 3-(for the wall breaking one) have you ever played a Metroidvania because they are all like this (remember when the gow dev took hours on a single room because he didn’t know that there are breakable blocks above him the whole time ) 5- also the lore is pretty straightforward to understand once you actually look for it. 6- isn’t there a mode in the game where you have to fight all the bosses but because it has to be in a different save file, you only have what you have at the start of the game.
In my 1st playthrough, I went right instead of left at the Crossroads and got stuck :/ I went back left, got map, defeated aspids, and defeated false knight. However, after beating false knight, I went right instead of left (because I thought the boss was only for geo) and missed vengeful spirit. I wandered around the Crossroads for a long time, beat gruz mother, brooding mawlek, rescued sly. When I looked at the map, I thought "oh, false knight? I already went there, there's no need to go back" I literally bought everything I could from iselda, sly, and salubra. I thought one of these items was how to get to the next area. I used lantern to go to c peaks. I went through dark room, fell into r grounds, and got d nail. It took me 5 hours to beat xero, because my bench was the c peaks dark room bench. (I didn't have claw so I couldn't reach Xero from the side) I tried over and over and lost 400 geo, but I succeeded. I had no Idea what in the world I was supposed to do, so I Uninstalled. Just kidding, no I didn't. I watched fireb0rn videos and then I realized I was supposed to get vengeful spirit. I agree that it can be sometimes confusing, but that's what a metroidvania is.
I feel like Hollow Knight is very rewarding as I tried to fight Grimm way to early on and I kept dying but with a bit of patience and general understanding of the bosses attacks I got it done and I felt so rewarded it’s insane!
9:44 I'll admit, I had a similar experience to this reviewer at one point. But unlike them, instead of leaving a 0 star review when I felt stuck between brick walls, I just looked stuff up, because I enjoyed the game and wanted to continue with it, and voila, I'm no longer stuck. I tried to play most of it without spoiling myself of course but once I started to dread searching everywhere again I decided to go to Google I do sort of wish there was an optional way to see what specific rooms still have stuff hidden, because not everything has obtainable map markers like the grubs do, and there's no way I would have discovered all the breakable walls on my own, particularly the one that locks the entire Grimm storyline behind it
Something akin to the map rooms in super metroid? that game puts a lil dot on a room that contains a secret and finding the map room fills your whole map in, thereby revealing what rooms have stuff hidden in them without actually showing you how they're hidden. Cornifer fills the purpose of the map on its own but they could have had a modified thing where you find a certain other npc within a region and if you've got the map already you can pay them to mark either one or all rooms that have secrets, or perhaps just the secrets that you can currently access. I think it is. . . maybe against the spirit of the game's focus on exploring to do so, but I could see the appeal of such a feature. Alternate option, something like the x-ray visor, also from super metroid, which when used on a wall will reveal if it's a normal wall or if it needs a special tool to open.
@@Splitcyclewastaken yeah, something like that... something i think that could have worked is after buying every map from cornifer and he goes home, you could talk to him there and pay him to put a random marker on your map locating something of interest you haven't discovered. as he's scouting and mapping areas he must have some rumors or suspicions of those things. and it's not like you'd get these hints for free
@@twinbruisesonmyshins I'm scared of running into spoilers when I look stuff up, and I wanna experience everything by myself but it's kinda impossible for Hollow Knight
But like for a game you shouldn't be forced to look things up that is just a failure on the game's part especially if it happens more than once. On my blind play-through, I missed so many things and b/c of the requirement of some abilities and the size of the map, I spent over half of my play-through walking around. Don't get me wrong, I liked the game and at first, the novelty of walking around and figuring things out was great you get to the maxed size of the map and are looking for the one thing you need, and it starts to become a bad game.
Like the last reviewer, I also had trouble figuring out and remembering what areas opened up after I got claw or wings or shade cloak. So I went to Iselda and bought some pins to mark the map with when exploring. The game literally has nearly that exact feature they proposed, they just have to mark it themselves to remember when they see an out of reach area.
I did the same thing except I completely forgot to mark anything so I'm wandering around for hours trying to see if a new area is unlocked for me already lol
@@georgerobins4110 Wait, so you DON'T retry that same boss for 10+ hours until you finally beat it?? Failed Champion took me 8-10 hours to beat because I REFUSED to accept defeat a 112th time
@@angeluriel2725 that was me exactly with Watcher Knights and NKG. After the first couple failed attempts, I watched some tutorials on TH-cam for better strats, then I rammed my face at them repeatedly until I finally beat them (not literally trying to facetank ofc lol). Some of the people shown in the video may view looking up help as cheating, but hey, if a little cheating here and there helps you enjoy the game more instead of ragequitting and writing a salty review, I'm fine with that.
@@nategwright yea, true, but I think the comment probably mostly refers to the enemies that can still damage you even when you've killed them, like the Ooma's and the Spiny Husk's and the corrupted version of Vengeflies that go boom boom. but yea, true, they're not "respawning", but they're still able to damage you even when you've killed them.
"Bad game don't recommend It took me a whole ass year but I finally beat troupe master and I think maybe that was it But no more backtracking around the map looking for ridiculous red flames because this game sure enjoys wasting my time 10 hours later after beating all 3 bosses scattered around the map in the most inconvenient possible place's THERE'S ANOTHER BOSS WTF DON'T PLAY THIS GAME IT'S BEEN 20 YEAR'S AND I STILL HAVEN'T BEAT HIM"
I died repeatedly to the False Knight when I first started playing. Much, much, later, I beat Nightmare King Grimm on Radiant. So I guess there's a lesson here about persistence or something.
I'm wondering which Hornet the guy was talking about... Greenpath's Hornet Guardian is really easy, and somehow I'm believing that the reviewer didn't get to Hornet Sentinel near Kingdom's Edge.
@@mastermewtwo5503 if he didn't mention the rematch in kingdom's edge, you know it's because he doesn't know about it. So, it's definitely greenpath hornet.
@@geckoanims yeah, but Steelsoul with no respawned enemies actually makes the game easier as you progress. Just makes it hard if not impossible to 100%/112%.
I feel like it could potentially make things harder. No easy access to soul, and I'm almost certain there are some places where pogoing is required that would become impassible once you kill the enemy.
Harder to get geo early, impossible for stuff like Dream Nail before Vengeful Spirit... Imagine if that still applied to the Colosseum though, and you just walked into the trial for the second time and they immediately gave you more money for doing nothing.
I remember when I first started playing I was so excited, i beat gruz mother, found sly, didn't even notice salubra, SPRINTED up to go find him in dirt mouth, saw the simple key and got so excited because I though that the door to jiji's was the door to the rest of the kingdom. I ran around trying to gather enough money, found false knight, couldn't beat him so I just did the skip and ran to the shaman thinking I was close to the end of the game or at least the big middle..... I was sooooo wrong. I wish I could play for the first time again
I'm honestly so confused. I'm the definition of a casual gamer, and hollow knight was only the second game I ever played...22 hours to beat Hornet?! Come on 😂
Hollow Knight is my first game and I can't remember how many hours in I beat her but I don't remember Hornet being that bad lmao. Hornet 2 maybe coz she's a little faster and more unpredictable but Hornet 1 is still in the realm of introductory like False Knight
Maybe they meant 22 hours of total play time? Like, from the start of the game, by the time they beat hornet it was 22 hours? I can maybe see that. Casual + bad at platformers maybe + trying to explore a lot
@@beybl7869 Yeah I replied to you comment saying maybe its possible, but then actually read the rest of the review and they also say they spend 36 hours 'getting lost'. So yeah, doesnt sound like they are saying they played for 22 hours total, they are actually saying they played for 50+ hours exploring and beating hornet total. I don't know, if a game grabs me so much that I spend 50+ hours playing it, I probably wouldnt leave a zero star review. Plus they literally say they are 'not a casual player' so the numbers just seem unlikely to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I kinda understand those guys: sometimes you are so frustrated and disappointed (in yourself) you just want to spit it out and get some shoulder pats or something. No forgiveness for comments about atmosphere tho: I literally CRIED when I discovered that cool place with bench near window in the City of Tears..
Deepnest is my favourite area because it's atmosphere is so good. I definitely don't get the atmosphere complaints because that's probably the best aspect of the game after it's music
@@voidnoidoid It's a great area! It really feels like the whole place is trying to kill you at all times and I love that. Definitely not for everyone but I really like it
As a hollow knight player with no skill these people do not speak for us smh I still enjoy the game so much and it feels incredibly rewarding to see your improvement as the game goes on for example I used to take incredibly long to fight hornet but I realized each time I tried I got better and that felt great!! Or when I finally beat soul master lol
Or do you want to lose out on platforming skips, maybe if the enemies didn't respawn why should you? Especially the shade enemies in the abyss, I'd like to see those people say they can't respawn when the player can.
Also I don't know how many relics there are but 4 arcane eggs makes 4800 geo, maybe 20k- 30k from everything else, you would barely afford a max nail, no extra charms and stuff, no more mask shards and yeah
I particulary love the "You have to dodge 20 times to hit once" review, because even in my first playthrough I remember being an absolute monster hitting the enemy as much as I could, of course, that got me killed a lot of times, but I never thought about the combat that way because it just depends on your fighting style.
I used the "22 hours to beat Hornet" review to benchmark my first playthrough and see how much I could get done in the timespans mentioned. By 22 hours I'd gotten Coiled Nail, absorbed Herrah, and had every movement ability outside of Monarch Wings. And I'd gotten my first ending by 36 hours. So at least that review was useful for something, as it gave me challenges to meet 😆
22 hours to beat hornet has me cackling I’m not a god gamer by any stretch of the imagination and even I beat hornet within an hour of encountering her lmfaoooo
I loved the "archaic" save system at the end, especially since they bring up dark souls and you can't tell me the save systems aren't basically the same
They...aren't though...in HK quitting out sends you back to the last rested at bench, which could be miles away. In Dark Souls, you quit out and you just pick up right where you left off. In a boss? Cool, you're right in front of the boss room, go right ahead champ.
It took me 10 hours to beat The Radiance (base game, not Abs Rad) my first playthrough, but I could tell it was a really well made boss. Just because I'm not good at a fight doesn't mean it's not a good fight
I honestly really liked the Radiance, at first I was completely unable to beat her, but once I finally figured out the technique to doing so, I felt like a true God Gamer. Shame that the people in the reviews didn't play long enough to experience that.
I took me 4 and a half hours to beat NKG and that's my favourite boss in the game. I'll never understand people who fail a few times and are like "the game is the problem, not me!"
@@Comboowo Yeah it is a shame. You realize you're challenging what looked like a sun and the being that was hallownest downfall. Then its moveset lives up to the hype, It literally felt impossible the first few times. learning to beat it was punishing, but really rewarding once you make some progress. That was the best part of hollow knight for me excluding the story.
@@joshuam7749 Yeah, the Radiance becomes fun to beat once you've figured out how to do so, since it becomes a lot easier. Just don't chase her when she teleports, and heal up as much as possible. Basically, play defensively. It's hard to do that at first, though, since the Hollow Knight is the complete opposite, where you just spam spells and heal very rarely, since you regain full health when you enter the Radiance boss battle.
I'll admit, sometimes I had to look up locations for obscure things, like 2 of the 4 simple keys. But let's be honest here, that's just because I'm bad and impatient at times. The game is still fantastic.
It took me two years to beat the second Hornet fight lmao (it was due to both me being really bad at the game and the fact that I couldn't play everyday due to schoolwork and burnout). I still beat her and I am now, slowly, exploring queen's gardens. After beating her I discovered a whole bunch of areas I just didn't notice, and I beat the Mantis Lords on my second try. Honestly, as long as you just keep going and trying you'll find more things and cool stuff and let's be real, the game is too beautiful to just drop.
My sympathies about the schoolwork! I bought HK in 2018 but I was like I'm not gonna touch it till I finish my degree. I defended my thesis last November and then I binged it haha
@@steveng813 why thank you! I ended up learning their attack patterns by watching too many videos of people speedrunning the game while I couldn't play it, so it ended up being easier than I would have thought. I was very surprised myself, aha!
Personally, the game was too hard for me.. so I used mods to make it easy enough for me to progress and enjoyed the fuck out of it for 40+ hours and counting anyways. The person who gave themselves invincibility and was still so salty about the difficulty is hilarious.
@@ninatheinkling5748 it would be cool if Hollow Knight made it so that after you got the true ending or something you could start a file but with all the abilities and areas unlocked. Like a game mode called ‘exploration’ or something.
@ninatheinkling5748 "this mode is not intended for a first experience and may not be as enjoyable as the classic version. It is only recommended for those that want to experience the game without certain difficult aspects." And then just toggle some options like more nail damage, infinite soul, more charm notches, less expensive items, whatever. That would be a good addition for silksong, but I get it if they don't want to add that
3:40 "there are no objectives or objective markers" hoo boy, we've found a real person who likes being handheld in videogames, guess this person loves "quests" 8:00 emmm..in the reviewr's defense, i think the sentence means that the physics are so sluggish and unwieldy the knight may as well be a wet blanket...in a physical sense
Regarding the first comment, Iselda’s pins exist for a reason. Not that I use them anyway, since I mostly remember the locations for the objectives I needed to achieve.
@@cappilau7448 The markers are pretty good to indicate doors you can't open yet or treasures you can see but don't know how to reach yet. It also means you can keep track of just how many items or unreachable/unopenable paths you've passed so far.
I remember getting stuck on the first hornet for 1-2 hours and was so frustrated, and went to the lower area (forgot the name- where you get moth wings) but I didnt have crystal heart or any of that and couldnt get back out of the area for a long while. Thought I soft locked myself. But I'm glad I didnt give up and eventually got to explore the whole game a lot more.
To be honest these comments make you laugh and also feel good about yourself for being able to actually beat this incredibly hard game for hyperactive youngsters.
I don’t consider myself really good at games and I probably spent a bit longer then most on some bosses, but when I managed to beat them it felt sooooo good. It’s very rewarding, and not infuriating like some other games. Soul master did piss me off a bit but when I died it was mostly my fault. Stuck on nightmare king grim at the moment I refuse to beat the game without upgrading my beautiful baby grim one last time.
I'm wondering how many of those reviews were left by people who went into the game expecting it to be a certain way and then refused to adapt to the game when it wasn't what they wanted to be. Like they probably expected face tanking to be a valid strategy and then got mad when that didn't work instead of figuring out a better strategy.
@@bruhtendr392 Basically 'Face-tanking' means standing directly in front of a baddie and taking his attacks with little effort to dodge relying only on active healing or passive defenses to save you. Usually a term for mmo's or RPGs, and obviously a strategy that won't work in a game where you have five hp and no defence, unless you count lifeblood.
To be fair, there's a lot of games you expect to enjoy only to realize the mechanics are not for you That's perfectly fine. You shouldn't be forced to enjoy a game simply because you bought it I thought I'd love Smash Ultimate, turns out it's still way too slow and campy compared to the first two titles. That's just life
this is a mix between zero patience, being oblivious, dumb, deaf, blind, among other things, also not knowing wtf steady body and pogoing off enemies is
Since I write music and learn all sorts of harmony about music and all that, I can clearly say this person has 0 appreciation for music. Like, clearly you wouldn’t be saying this if you actually heard themes like NKG and Sealed Vessel. Oh but what am I saying, these people admit they’re trash at the game. I am too, though, and beat Radiance. Just git gud
"Not every game is for everyone." That makes a hell of a lot of sense, actually. Because if a game truly is "for everyone", as in, everyone can supposedly enjoy it no matter what taste they have in video games, then it'd be really boring for everyone. Probably the reason why people like FromSoftware more than EA. Edit: Started actually watching the video, and now I'm convinced over half of these "reviews" are just trolls seeking attention.
Have you tried Steel Mantis games? They are amazing as well. Mecha Therion is awaited by me just like Silksong! Taking down Hydravok boss took me 3 days on Normal mode, now I play Valfaris second time on Hard.
@@Shawblade Why would the Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful, Grey Prince Zote ever need to cry suffering?
On the last review, he called the save system archaic, dark souls, hollow knight, minecraft and hundreds of other games have that save system. Touch this object, if die poof back to that object. Bonfire, bench, bed
I feel like a lot of this reviews could have convinced me to get the game. Lots of backtracking and the map is "confusing"? Guess I will be able to explore in peace with being pressured in a direction. Lore hard to grab? - oh I have to figure if out from clues Hard bosses? Cool challenge, I take it Lots of dying? Ha nostalgic memories to the time where every videogame was like that for me. I got exited after every hard time to earn whatever is coming
yeah like ive died many many times in hollow knight, but i didnt just uninstall and instead pushed though the challenge, the amount of happiness and proudness im filled with once i do succeed is great, obviously those people dont have perseverance or determination, like, at all
The more you play, the better you get, even if you don't realize it. If you go to start a new file, you'll see just how much more you know and can do (or else rush to get all the upgrades :j)
The first one happened to me too. But instead of giving up i played the game for multiple hours and learned how to pogo. And yes i was hulariosly bad at the game on my first playthrough.
First time I played the game I gave up around after getting the Mantis claw. But recently I returned to the game because I got bored with other games and I actually Git Gud. True, I needed few tutorials on a few things, but now I am around the White Lady cocoon part, with all grubs, almost all charms (No Kingsoul tho), Two Colosseum trials and the current pain is normal Grimm
@@magdaciechocka3076 good luck. Grimm isn't so bad once you get the hang of him. Head to the Palace Grounds with the awakened dream nail next if you're not already headed there
@@lordhellstrande7188 I didn't learn that you could pogo obstacles until white palace. I did have to learn about it to get past the purple mushrooms in fungal, but it never occurred to me that you could pogo off of spikes and saws.
@@patrickmorrey8722 I didn't even figure it out with the mushrooms, so good on ya for figuring that out. I knew something was going on but just couldn't figure it out
"Buggy, terribly optimized, horribly designed." Ok, I gotta agree with the *Buggy* part. Also it's really interesting how the ones who are giving negativity to HK is almost always the ones who enjoyed Ori.
To be fair I tried out Ori after playing Hollow Knight and I quit after the tree dungeon. Didn’t like that there was so little focus on combat and when the dungeon ended with an elaborate platforming section rather than a boss battle I kinda figured that the game wasn’t gonna be for me. Even in Hollow Knight I vastly prefer the combat and exploration over the platforming. Both games are good and they’re both metroidvanias but I don’t necessarily think they will appeal to the same kinds of people.
@@NemoTheDreamO yeah i agree with you on the art/music they are both absolutely amazing. what i found is that Ori is a nice escape game when i'm having trouble with a boss fight/level in a game. i'm currently working on path of pain and 5th pantheon for my 112% completion for HK, and i'm also playing No Man's Sky so Ori is my escape when i get frustrated with those two.
@@Awesomeflame16 what I was gonna say too. The Blind Forest's combat wasn't special. Only one hit attacks (HK also has basic nail hits) but Will of the Wisps has great combat and playstyle variety.
Ori and the blind forest: good Ori and the will of the wisps: great Hollow Knight: the best game I've ever played Ter- can't talk about that one it's to good
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Someone tell these people about steady body
i was thinking that the whole time 💀 these people seem to have only played through the VERY beginning of the game...
@@Walnarut tbf you can just forget about salubras house and just never revisit it until you pass over blue lake from resting grounds, which can be very late into the game
and wayward compass 💀
@@Buagg And the custom pins too! I got them on my first playthrough as soon as I realized that I would need to revisit past areas, and used them to mark e. g. impossible jumps and breakable floors.
IF they can get there to buy it though...
I love when you can tell who skips text because a few people definitely didn't buy the quill to actually fill in the map
Probably the most noteworthy example of someone like this is DarksydePhil. He will actually tell jokes or yell at the game to shut up, when it's trying to tell him something important... and then whines and says the game never told him about something.
@@VGamingJunkieVT Not to mention that he blames the game for every single little thing that goes wrong. Never his own fault. Nope. The game's just badly made is all.
And the compass! Like my guy please just go to the store
God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him won’t perish but will have eternal life.h
You don't even gotta do that, literally on your next visit to dirtmouth you'll typically explore the new opened shop immediately and find the Quill with ease
I like to imagine that that one guy spent 22 hours to beat Hornet in one sitting
I thought I was noob for taking 4 hours to beat her
@@MasterIsabelle damn, still
It probably includes exploration before, and he may just have missed the good paths over and over and over again
@@5carresdechoco_292 I remember not exploring and so I missed the bench on screen under hornet... Took me 30 minutes to beat hornet because of it and it gently taught me that exploring is good and it's probably your fault if you find something unfair.
could also be he was talking about Hornet 2, but he is probably just bad.
When the review is so bad fire has an existential crisis
I can agree its funny
Lmaoo I click off the video, about to open the comment I look down in the comment section, as I was about to click it, I saw this master piece 😂 I literally die laughing on the spot
not only fire...
and he's already lost all ability to suffer waiting for silksong
I'm still fairly new to hollow knight. Been playing it for a few weeks and also taking my time in between. But I love it and plan on getting the platinum. I'm already near the end of the story. Just need to cleanup and the pantheon
Remember the first time I played Hollow Knight, I didn't pay attention to the king's path, so I spent a good part of the game not knowing that I could focus soul to heal, so I still managed to get to the praying mantis lords, but I thought, " bro this game is so hard, I'll watch a video of it to see what I'm doing wrong" and in that I saw the person playing and healing and I was thinking, "man, I'm dumb as fuck".
reading does wonders haha
My first time playing was playing really safe and heal alot and I died by the most piece of shit enemies XD. Laptop keyboard doesn't help either but still
I accidentally mapped the heal button to f5, and didn't notice for 9 hours. I felt stupid as well.
A cordial reminder using guides is completely okay.
lol
I remember being stuck on Forgotten Crossroads for about 8 hours. Not because of game design or anything, I was just having too much fun running back and forth, getting into nooks and crannies, beating Brooding Mawlek before finding out about the False Knight, and just filling Sly's pockets, checking the Black Egg after doing anything.
I remember at the time thinking "oh well, the game is meant to be speedrun in a few hours, so I must be near the end. Its such a sweet and wonderful game." .....then I found greenpath.
And now I have 200+ hours on that file, and a radiant hall of gods, currently trying to get some bindings on P5.
Looking back, at the time the crossroads felt so much larger.
What do you mean the game is more then forgotten crossroads?
@@bestaround3323 no, there is no more than the forgotten crossroads, there is no story, heck, there isn't even a game so ignore the youtube videos and play it on Roblox, it has more depth there
This comment really brings back a lot of nostalgia for me… ah… the good ol’ days… when I had no idea what game I was playing.
This reads like a comment that's nostalgic for the first time learning Minecraft.
lol yeah when i came back to forgotten crossroads after some time, it feels really small compared to the first impression
God there's enough salt in these reviews that it could rival the Dead Sea lmao. I love it.
Did you know that the dead sea is shrinking and that is bad since we keep taking the salt out of the water since we are dumb ass humans
lol
Your name has the Void Heart in it and I just got it today so that’s funny
@@JustARandomPersonLol69420 Well yes, but actually no
@@acat3772 is this a bot because i checked there comment history and most of the comments they made on this channel is something related to yes and no
A score of 0 is the kind of score you give a game when it's fundamentally broken, not just because it's not your cup of tea, or you didn't understand it.
People who give a 0 star score can only give 0 or max, there is no in between for these people. Everything is either "literally the worst thing ever" or "gods gift to gaming".
God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him won’t perish but will have eternal life.q
@@Yuki-qs5mt one person said god in this reply section and your Christian ass goes crazyyyyyyy i love people who had a brick dropped on their head as a baby
Props to the one guy who straight up admitted “yeah I’m just bad, go buy the game”. Absolute legend.
They still gave the game a bad review, thereby dragging down the user score, which ultimately misinforms people to the quality of the game if they are thinking of buying it.
Just imagine if even half of these morons would stop and think for two seconds about what a "0" actually means. The game would receive better general scores, which would mean more people would see how great it is, which would mean more people would buy it, which means Team Cherry gets more money, which means more of these type of passion project games can be made in the future.
Unneccesarily dragging down a score because you're a memelord (or giving a positive one for a bad game, at that.) just harms the developers and misinforms consumers. Nothing "legend" about it.
@@RedFloyd469 Hey, progress is progress. Plus, they’re a torch in the darkness that are these salty reviews because they actually say that you SHOULD buy it and prove the others are salty. While I agree that the 0-Star is unnecessary, at least he’s not a completely stuck up bastard
@@RedFloyd469 dude its one 0 rating, youre acting like its financially devestating
we stan a king
@@RedFloyd469 0 star reviews are inevitable though no matter what game
My lore heart is hurt. I never knew there was no story. My life is a lie
Mossbags life was just debunked. Just more reason to sacrifice him for silksong
What’s the plan to sacrifice him
@@pandaell1029 first, find out where he lives. Observe his house and figure out his daily routins. Gather members of the HK community you trust and assemble them in his local area. Assault him while he is alone and cannot receive help. Tie him up and prepare the ritual. Also make sure to dispose of evidence and potential witnesses.
There isn't much of a story to Hollow Knight. However, it is instead full of lore. Lore and story are two different things. Lore is what happened before you start playing or when you are not at a spot. It's often told through dialogue or details/changes in details or difficulty of a spot you were in before. Story is what happens in the game as you play it... SPECIFICALLY in the area you're at. The story typically bows down to you because it is told through the gameplay and your movements or things said or done by your character specifically.
This is not to say Hollow Knight has no story, as you can choose where you want to go and you can go pretty much anywhere, following any path and making your own story, but it is still lacking. However, the lore is where HK shines the most and it's the lore, not the story, that Mossbag and several others focus on.
Also, I will say, lore is always the better of the two to focus on if you want to make the world feel alive. That is something some of these reviewers don't seem to understand.
Christopher Larkin’s brilliant score is what brought me into this game. My orchestra teacher had us play the Hornet theme before I even knew about it. How dare anyone disrespect the game’s greatest aspect like that?
Your teach Is cool.
cool!
I completely and utterly agree with this, I was so shocked when I heard that anyone despised the music that much.
The teacher is goated
It had to be a troll. Anyone who says the music is bad has no valid input to give
It’s hilarious how many people expect a Metroidvania game (iconic for not holding the player’s hand and letting the player explore and find things on their own) to hold their hand and show them where everything is.
Honestly, I thought Hollow Knight was more hand-holding than Ori was. I couldn't play Ori at first but after playing Hollow Knight I literally got through Ori in 2-3 sittings. Hollow Knight is very generous with it's map system to help figure out where the next place is. So tons of laughing in this video lol.
@@terrahatvol7960 I feel kinda bad, because my experience was totally diferent. I got stuck on the first map for a lot of hours haha. But still, I love the game and already beated It with 112%
@@terrahatvol7960 really? i thought that ori was much more kinder than hollow knight
Yeah... people shouldn't play a metroidvania if they don't enjoy exploring for its own sake, getting lost, and revisiting old areas with new abilities.
I also tried to get someone to play Outer Wilds, but they absolutely hated it because they didn't want to explore and learn and experiment. They just wanted to complete objectives and reach the end as fast as possible. They were pissed that their progress kept getting reset, and totally failed to realize that nothing had been lost. The "checkpoints" are the player's knowledge... and the only reason they weren't making progress is because they refused to pay attention or learn.
Getting lost for a total of over 60 hours is one of the biggest reasons I love this game so much, as it’s just so refreshing to walk through the ruined kingdom of Hallow Nest with the simple but beautiful art, the ambiance in sound for anything and everything, the soundtrack that fits in to the surroundings in such a harmony of emotion that you could just explore without purpose other than to just feel for hours upon hours, the way the game grasps you into getting lost in a way where you can always find a way other that that of which you came to find your way again. I don’t have any more words to describe exactly how I feel about getting lost, and why it’s such a big part of the experience for me.
"This game has to rely on touch damage and *attacks by the enemy* in order to make it harder."
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well props to them for realising how video games work, I bet they loved the Mario games
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AND THE PRIZE FOR FILTHIEST CASUAL GOES TO
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Well someone’s never played a video game before
Yeah I was so confused on that one. Like how do they think enemies work?
I personally prefer my enemies to stand motionless and wait patiently for my nail to strike them down.
You can smell the salt and sweat in their reviews.
Man, I sure I love playing games built for HYPERACTIVE YOUNGSTERS.
Yes
@@mrblur6055 I agree
Yo dont we love that genre, the hyperactive youngster genre? personally, those gen z games are pretty litty af doe am i right BOIIIIIS
@@SuiGeneris8888 you become a member
oh yeah 😎
I remember how I bought the game because I was stressed and needed a relaxing experience.
What I didn't realize is that this game is really hard for someone who's only ever played pokemon, and it wasn't relaxing.
But on the other hand, I have 150 hours in the game, and I really loved it, as rage inducing it was.
Me, 100%. Pokemon --> HK was a bold choice but no regrets XD
Yeah, Hollow Knight is not a relaxing game. It's actually funny, my son gifted me Hollow Knight after I had complained my previous 3 games were too chill!
This has the same energy as buying stardew vallew to relax
@@usernametaken017 Wait... People aren't playing Stardew to relax?
@@Empolo18 Stardew makes it very easy to get caught up in optimizing and making sure you get x task done by y time. There are a lot of things that can be going on at once, and managing everything become pretty taxing.
as someone who is a “hyperactive youngster” i’m literally so horrible at hollow knight but it’s genuinely so fun to me and i find it to be beautiful
I’m not far from being 30 and I have to wonder how old this person is that they’re playing Hollow Knight but is still like “You Young Wippersnappers and your weird games! Back in my day games made sense!”
I mean they're trying to shift the market of the game to "HyPeR aCtIvE yOuNgStErS" when in reality that's the direct opposite of the person HK is for. In Hollow Knight, you die, die, die, die, and then you get the perfect run in which you don't die! The pure euphoria in that moment is something that most other games can't do. Hollow Knight requires a person with patience. (Also, don't worry, I'm bad too. It took me 8 hours to get the mantis claw XD)
@@rnaodmsomething i don’t even want to talk about the hours it took for the mantis lords heheh but i adore the lore and music and am patient so i don’t mind taking my time
@@zara-uv1kp oh no
@@rnaodmsomething to be fair i’ve never ever played a metroidvania or platform i normally play more chill games
I spent over 100 tries on Hornet when I first started but I now have beaten PoH. No excuse for anyone saying there is no room to improve or that the gameplay is too difficult.
Exactly! It took me 4 hours to beat Soul Master. And now, I've recently beaten NKG. People who complain about a game being too hard make me so confused. Do you want a game a toddler can beat? Like wtf lol
true, my first time playing i die to the false knight 2 e Hornet over 30, and now i almost beat PoH at first. A have like 60 hours and 99% of Achivements (2 times because i lost my save) and I went to recess and play other games.
Damn, I still haven't beaten P3, I hate Zote.
I spent at least two hours straight of grinding to beat her. Plus an extra couple hours at different times. Beating her was the most satisfying thing ever!
💀💀 do u play with ur feet? 100 tries?
it took me 4-5 hours over the course of two days to beat hornet, and the feeling of satisfaction from getting such a key ability as dashing (and also finally figuring out when it was safe to attack or not) made me love the game even more
Same, took me a while, plus I hadn't realised there was a stag station with a bench near the fight, which made everything even more annoying. But that only boosted the feeling of satisfaction I got at the end, the "I did it, by myself, I can do anything", such a great feeling that follows you through the game.
took me 2h blind from the start only help was a friend told me to go to green path
@@ΣοφίαΣτουπά-ρ2τ Happened exactly the same to me
thats exactly what happened to me
I think it took me around 3 hours to beat hornet it's too bad I had to fight her though she is my favorite character and all her fights are really fun
"What have I been doing for the past 5 years?" LMAO XD
Damn, can't believe mossbag has made a whole lore channel about a game with no lore. Honestly pretty impressive!
This man be milking a blank sheet of paper, apparently. My personal favorite was "little room for improvement." That means I'm almost as good as fireb0rn! (PS I am not).
This is game theory
Yeah, just like people talking about Elden Ring lore! Absolutely no story what so ever
mossbag wasted his time on walking simulator smh 😤😤😤
The fact that someone actually took 22 hours to beat Hornet makes me feel better for taking 5+ tries against her 😅😅
Lol, at this point, one can say I'm taking several months to beat her, since I've yet to find the desire to get back on again. If I keep this up, I'll be at a year without defeating her!
@@TriforceKeybladeSkykid Don't worry, she's the hardest boss in the game.
Bro, it took me over 10 tries, and I probably lost count
@@TotallyNotSnowman Rad took me under 10 tries lol. But not everyone can be as good as me of course🤴
@@Wonkess_Chonkess I haven't even beaten Rad my dude
The Knight actually does have a great memory, for exactly the reason you stated: it could explore the entirety of Hallownest, then sit down on a bench and draw a detailed map of the entire kingdom all at once. Only 1 bench is mandatory after all.
No mind to think, lots of room to fill that little head with the memory of paths trodden and then empty it all out onto paper.
...the mandatory bench is obviously on the descent into City of Tears, alongside Quirrel. If you didn't sit down on that bench for a while on your first playthrough you are heartless :P
Me, a smooth brain: oh, that's referencing the Deepnest bench...oh no, my bad, you're right.
I actually didn't sit there at all because I ended up doing an entirely different route through the deepnest after beating the mantis Lords.
I was in a constant state of fear because I ended up in a place where I felt I had no return and I would need to restart the entire game (no map, no lamp, old nail).
But I found my way back, and enter city of tears from below.
@@jkf16m96 I love hearing about the odd paths people end up taking :D Accidentally losing the opportunity is obviously not a problem.
@@jkf16m96 Wait a second...I think I took the same path as you! I never realized I could go through the main gate to the city of tears (I didn't realize I got the key or something), so once I cleared everything I could reach before that, I took the plunge into Deepnest (no city of tears, no desolate dive, no nail upgrades, etc.) with virtually nothing but a lantern to my name. _It was horrifying._ 10/10 experience. Would recommend, would not do it twice!
And yea, the only bench for a while was at the bottom of Deepnest. Then I had to go through the ancient basin, then up to King's Station (I think I went a little bit into the kingdom's edge, hard to remember, tho). Deepnest was definitely the most terrifying part by far.
And then don't talk to him so he becomes immortal
The fact that people were expecting things like a flag to show where you need to go to progress the story or bosses the strength of a husk shows how much the games of triple A companies spoiled them
this! seems everyone wants marker to point the way. they don’t want to explore, immerse themselves in the world. just a to b to beat the game for the sake of saying they beat it
The Ori games had map markers, and it didn't take away anything. It means players can consciously choose to advance the story, or avoid doing it. And they were placed in the void (like the dreamers) so you still had to explore to get there
@@diethylmalonate hollow knight was simply better than ori though.
@@adamya1639 it's not. Ori 2 isn't as good as HK but Ori 1 can't be compared
@@adamya1639 I've never played Ori but don't be saying HK is simply better when they are just different games with differing styles. As fire said, not everyone likes every game and that's fine but keep in mind design choices work in much the same way.
Throughout Hollow Knight I frequently got stuck on bosses (for days or weeks at a time sometimes), lost tons of geo trying to get my shade back, and just generally wasted a lot of time struggling to do stuff.
It's one of, if not my absolute favorite, games. I just suck at it :D
Sucking at it makes it all the more satisfying when you do finally beat that god damn boss you've been stuck on for hours, whilst slowly learning how to avoid its attacks and finding its weak spots, it feels even more satisfying.
Through failure, you shall become more skilled.
I used to suck at it when I first played it a year ago, then I got good enough to beat p5, now I'm kinda washed but still about to beat steel soul hopefully (got lurien and monomon, just need herrah and THK to beat it)
They didn’t play long enough to hear Hornet’s famous “get good” line, no wonder they haven’t realized they suck at video games
And quirrel's croissant
Ikr
There's nothing wrong with having less (or different) video game experience
@@RamzaBeoulves but there IS something wrong with blaming the game when the lack of experience is the only problem
@@RamzaBeoulves No one is saying you can't dislike the game, what they're saying is that you shouldn't say the game is bad just because YOU are bad at it or dont like it lol
You know, I had a similar experience that a lot of the bad reviewers described with my first play through of hollow knight (dying to nail knock back in stupid ways, getting lost, getting stuck, etc.), but the main difference between me and them is that I am a rational human being who can comprehend that some things are my fault, not the game’s. I eventually adapted to the nail knock back, I would go do something else if a boss was giving me too much trouble (cough cough lost kin cough cough), and if I, for example, never found shade cloak because I never turned on the lighthouse when I went there the first time, I would have just laughed it off as my being an idiot (definitely not based on a true story). Because of that, I thoroughly enjoyed the game, and would recommend to anyone
I tried beating lost kin without the double jump... It took me 2 hours to realise that I should've just gone past the broken vessel arena to get the monarch wings ability. Not that it helped cause I wasn't used to it so I just kept hitting the little ghosts eventually I gave up trying to learn to dodge with the double jump and practised patience... I got in 2 hits at a time eventually I won after a total of 4 hours of gameplay
I didn't even have the shadow cloak or quick slash... Yes I was a dumb dumb
Can relate a lot, though I didn't go completely blindly sadly. I knew about some stuff beforehand but the experience was still good for what it was, never got 112% nor completed PoP or any pantheons but I'd say I don't need them anyways, I was more in for the exploring and story this game had to offer. Probably one of the better games I've ever played.
The funny thing for me is that I have gotten so used to nail knock back that steady body now causes me to consistantly walk into enemies
@@magnateze as someone who only has somewhere from 5 to 20 hours of playtime, i still have the same issue
I originally had very negative feelings cause of how difficult it was to progress
And then I realized I was overcharmed 💀💀💀
"It took me 22 hours to beat Hornet"
Fire: *Every review, we stray further from the God Gamers*
game journalists
That guy should have realised, he's meant to fight her not date her
22 hours lol, beat Hornet on my first try, and I was 10
Well now I feel stupid :)))) It took me a lot to beat Hornet the first time, but it also was the first game I played with a controller so I think that justifies it :)))
@@nyoo2222 saaaame, it took me around 2 hours worth of trying and failing, but when I finally beat her I was so happy :)
I'm 50 years old and I could still finish it. The first finish took me 122 hours and I loved all of it. I loved getting frustrated at the game being a maze that I got lost in. Best game EVER!
Now do patheon of hallownest without gathering swarm
I used to speedrun this game and haven't played it in a while. Picked it up again the other week and spent another 15 hours just playing through normally. This game is worth more than gold.
If you like being frustrated at games and being lost in the maze, you should play Rain World.
@@behindthecookie8653 thanks. I'll check it out.
@@great_channel hell no. That’s too difficult.
that 22 hours to beat hornet had me straight up crying of laughter
Imagine fighting hornet for 22 hrs and losing 😂
if you dont beat hornet in 5-10 attempts then you are a failure, BUT THIS, IS SO GODAMN FUNNY-
@@peacock871 Not really
Some people take more time to learn
Not giving up is more important
@@rahulverma8774 ok i take it back, 20-30 attempts
Bro 22 hours was my time to beat the hollow knight on my first completely blind playthrough
the clown music really adds something special to this video
so true
What clown music? lol
I think it's because it uses Silksong music
@@cole8685 the snowy area song from Mario 64
@@cancerousPlatanorr fair enough
All the reviews saying that there's no story, objective or that the game has a boring/dull graphic style obviously are from people that didn't make it past the crossroads
I think the ones talking about the graphics are trolling, the graphics are what attracts so many people’s attention to the game in the first place. And even if you don’t like them they clearly aren’t low quality.
Or just didn't read any of the literal LORE TABLETS. Heck, after you beat Hornet, and stay too long, you get forced to read a part of lore, then you have dream nail.
Emegle? It’s me manatee!
Didn’t know you played this game
Hi, been a while
I can't be the only one who was so fascinated by the design and beuty of the fog canyon that I walked right into a jelly fish, tried going about my day, and then was fascinated by the design and beuty of the following explosion as I began stroking out
0:45 Hey, this happened to me on my first playthrough! I wandered into Fog Canyon before fighting Hornet, got lost, didn’t know what to do, lost interest, and said I’d come back to it later. (Though, I didn’t uninstall or leave a review.) Then, 2 years later, I came back to it, started a fresh save (seeing as I had mostly forgotten the game), and it then become one of my favorite games. 112% and beat P5. And then a few days ago (which was another 2 years after beating P5), I beat it on Steel Soul. Now at 99% on Steel Soul.
damn your good i still can beat p5 and i havent even gotten to city of tears in steel soul
I lliteraly had the same exact expirience except that instead of The Jellyfish Pit of Doom i was stuck in the Mr. Stressball's Sanctum of Soul Finding and Yoga, then i came back months later, 112% intensifies.
When I first started playing, I was also extremely frustrated with the knockback on attack. I equipped steady body as soon as I got it. 2 or 3 fights later and Im running back to the bench to take it off again bc I got used to the knockback and now all the enemies were simply walking into me 😂
...And then, dozens of hours later, you equip steady body again and realise its tremendous power, being able to stay on top of bosses in spite of quickslash like never before
haha same. i rly do live by steady body now in all honesty. never rly took it off
The knockback did feel a bit weird to me at first, but when I found Steady Body I thought “That costs a whole charm notch!? Forget that, I’m just going to get used to the knockback.” I still don’t use Steady Body and don’t see much of a use for it for myself.
yeah I can't stand steady body either.
@@sandjgaez257 I use it with quicknail to just rail and rail on enemies with no hesitation. But otherwise, yeah there's a sort of rhythm you get used to with the natural knockback that feels weird to be without if you're not intentionally breaking it.
I've broken down these complaints into 3 categories
1. I've never played a Metroidvana and have no idea how they work and why they won't hold my hand and show me where to go (funny enough HK was my first Metroidvania and I did find it confusing at times, but that's what kept drawing me back)
2. I am bad at this game, and I don't want to improve or learn (I'm no game expert myself, but if it takes you over 10 tries to beat False Knight or Hornet, you're playing the game wrong)
3. I am a boring person, who does not see a reason to have a sense of exploration for either the map or the lore, and I also have no taste in art or music.
It took me way more than 10 tries to beat Hornet the first time, it's not the end of life, but I get what you mean :) Now I'm practicing for P5 though.
it took me a few more than 10 tries to beat those, but i agree with what you mean.
Hornet is on a different leauge that false knight.
I no hitted false knight, but it took me 8 tries to beat hornet
Current me {Who is currently practicing for pantheon 5} would be screaming at past me for struggling HARD against false knight and hornet.
its difficult to figure out navigation at first but if you just follow hornet she leads you through the first few beats of the story/to important shops you need in early game, that helped me out a ton on my first playthrough
I quite literally spent a whole month trying to beat Soul Master. Alright, alright get your laughter out. But still it was one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had with a game so people complaining the game is awful because they're stuck on a boss or something I still think is really funny. Also great video!
Don't worry, I spent about a week or 2 of on and off attempts fighting the mantis lords because I didn't upgrade my nail before fighting them. I was very happy with my charm though.
My Play time on my main save file is 65h 06m and It feels like 65h 05m was spent on mantis lords
I can only imagine your frustration when you thought you defeated him, only to see it was a fake out.
Dang dude lol. Longest I remember taking on a boss was a couple 5 -6 hour play sessions to get some of the Flawless achievements in Wings of Vi. Good persistence by you though!👍
Im loaing my mind here trying to get past the 3RD patheon i dont even know if ill be able to get the godmaster endings ):
I laughed so hard when you said "they probably gave all their money to millibelle and then quit" 😂
That’s what happened to me at first. Then I actually played the game.
Imagine him beating mantis lords. Or radience...
@@Allustar same but I didn’t give my money to millibelle and then died losing my money. Started another file after that. Now I’m currently 60h in at p5 and almost have all the achievements such as finishing the game in 5 hours ( just missing things I couldn’t do on my first file and p5)
i love how fire insults the people who gave 0 stars with such a calming voice LMAO
there is something special in it
again, what have i been doing for the past 5 years?
@@HowToLive352 breathing
when the guy said it's annoying that your basic attack pushes you back i was thinking have you ever heard of steady body
I love one star reviews. It's so funny to watch people complain about things you love, often times completely missing the point.
Calling the music and art bad in particular is hilarious
Fire out here spitting these facts and logic. Also love the background music choices, overall nice video
I have to admit, I had a lot of issues with the game and I couldn't finish it. Yet for some reason I don't think it's that bad. I'll be honest: I just suck at platforming. It made the game hard to play for me. Glad you guys enjoy it, though.
the "vessel has no mind to think, but certainly a good memory" joke made me laugh outloud like i haven't in a long time
FIRE SPITTING FACTS
A guy who calls himself "not a casual player" spends 22 hours to beat hornet, in this case my sister who is very new at games must a god gamer, she beated hornet within 7 hours more or less
damn she must've learned a lot from that 7 hours of fighting Hornet
@@TBHWHOKNOWS hornet was very easy for me the real first challenge that i fought was mantis lord (i passed 10 hours on it) and i learned a LOT of things in there
@@Guntesfdp imo mantis lords were really easy and the pattern is fun and satisfying to follow, only took about half an hour or a bit more to beat them
That's more casual than a video game journalist
The one about indicating on the map where you need an ability was funny to me because the game gives you something you can do that with, map pins.
As someone who struggled with that feeling of directionlessness: I understand that person who was second to last. I have the internal directional skills of a busted compass and there were definitely a couple times in the game where I had absolutely no idea where to go. I do still like the game because of all its other positives (solid movement & combat, good boss design outside of a couple, beautiful visuals and solid soundtrack) but that is 100% a valid feeling, though granted it's one that the Wayward Compass solves
Literally the first area of the game past the tutorial has a guy that sells you a map, and as you said, Wayward Compass, a charm you can get in that very same area, solves all issues with directionlessness. Best of all: it's entirely optional whether you wish to use it or not.
Now don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I have a good sense of direction, I don't. I don't mind when a game gives you quest markers or something similar. But for Hollow Knight, there really isn't an excuse to defend this silly argument.
Exploration is exactly what metroidvanias are all about. That's the draw. You don't have to like exploration, but then don't buy exploration games ffs. (not talking about you, I'm talking about the troglodytes writing these reviews.)
Yeah I have an absolutely abysmal directional sense, and move around like a drunk, blind junebug. Compass was a godsend to my stupid ass
@@synkt8759 wayward compass is so good for people like that since it costs almost nothing, only takes up one charm notch and is accessible pretty early on in the game.
@@JustARandomPersonLol69420 my god have i used so much wayward that in some areas i dont even need it anymore lmao, some i still do becausae i visited few times or spent little time in it overall comparatively, but yeah compass was like my first buy in the beggining
Why don't these people just look up area guides lmao. We live in an age where "Google it" is a common phrase and TH-cam are a thing.
honestly gotta love the reviews about the gaming being "buggy" after a whole playtrough i hadnt found a single bug, literally would have to actively look for them to find them
Wym the game is full of bugs
@@TotallyNotSnowman you did not just-
It took me 300 hours to find a bug that actually effects gameplay
HOW u couldn't found a single bug, when ur literally as far as i'm considered playing as a bug?
Well it actually have a lot of bugs
I finished 85% of the game in 30 hours on my first time playing the game. And you actually don't realize how long and how good the game is till you reach 8 to 10 hours of gameplay. Unlocking abilities and charm hunting is definitely one of the most entertaining aspects in the game, the story is absolutely flawless. And when I talked with my friends about this game they told me "is hollow knight this 2d game" I spent like 5 seconds to answer this question because the design made it look somehow 3d. As a casual player I can easily say that hollow knight is my favorite game and I played and finished many other games like both Spider-Man games all uncharted 1,2,3 and thief's ending, both tomb raider games, dark souls and elden rimg
Bro it took me like 70 hours to beat the main game cause i kept getting sidetracked now i have 115 hours and stuck on the p5 💀💀💀💀
During my first ever playthrough, the hornet sentinel fight made me borderline suicidal. But you know what I did? I kept playing and not only beat her, but got true ending and started work on the Pantheons. Have yet to beat P4 and haven't played in a while, but your videos are convincing me to play again, just like how it finally convinced me to buy the game itself.
This is my experience, just swap P4 for P3 - Sly was a gatekeeper for me for a good couple of months. I can safely say that the only moment more satisfying than finally getting my ass kicked by Pure Vessel in five seconds was when I beat Mantis Lords for the first time and they bowed to me. Such a proud moment for someone who sucks at games.
This is the same for me but for Pure Vessel. All the other bosses I beat with someone looking over my shoulder, able to analyze the bosses pattern better than I bcs I was busy dodging.
Pure Vessel was super speedy and I couldn't find a way to react quick enough. Few days later I beat him. I was so proud I almost cried.
Then, recently, I beat NKG in less than an hour 30 and holy crap did I realize 'I'm actually kinda good at this game' and I was super happy.
HK actually helped me with my mental health in various ways such as giving me a good sleep schedule bcs I had to wake up at 7 to beat my brother to the xbox with enough time to beat WP or Radiance. It also helped me not get angry at myself when I fail!
If you have the mental and/or motivation, you can get better and more consistent in the pantheons and actually master lot of the bosses. I'm still surprising myself for example, after getting some of the bindings now. I can now beat Pure Vessel without restrictions about 9/10 times. It took a lot of effort though. I was as bad as worst of these reviews at first.
Pure vessel is such a fun fight. The only two bosses that pose a challenge to me at this point are absolute radiance because it's such a long fight. And grey prince zote because he makes me angry. But even though those are at the end of PoH I keep trying it. And now I think back to when I died around 60 times to hornet. Good times.
The highlight of my playthrough that first comes to mind is the nightmare king Grimm fight. The ambience, the heart in the background, the music giving it a feeling like it's a dance where one miss step means you die just feels amazing! It's so intense and fun that even though I kept getting angry and my hands started to hurt my burning urge to win and sheer enjoyment of the whole thing just made me say "okay one more try". And then half an hour later on my 20th last try I said the same thing. Improving and succeeding just felt amazing and finally beating him after so long knowing how much I had to improve and get better just made it even better. To me nightmare king Grimm shows that a burning desire to improve and succeed along with just sheer enjoyment can go a super super SUPER long way.
"This game sucks because I don't like this genre" is my favorite type of bad review- absolutely hilarious
@Oyou
Graphics: It’s an art style. Just because it’s cartoonish doesn’t mean it looks like a 9 year old drew it. Backgrounds are also extremely detailed and animations are clean. Simple art style also means more people can easily draw fan art, which is something a lot of fans of the game enjoy. The darkness makes sense, you’re underground most of the time. Not dull either, I just think you’re monitor is broken.
Music: I don’t know what to say. Maybe you just hate pianos that much. If the Greenpath, I mean…”jungle”…music drove you insane, then you probably have some other mental issue. Greenpath is the most calm and inviting theme in the entire game.
Difficulty: The game isn’t that easy man. You saying just spam heal tells me you never got that far into the game. Plenty of bosses punish you for healing in the open, so you’re required to dodge and manage your soul in order to not die. That’s where the difficulty comes from. With your logic every game in the world is easy because “just dodge and heal”.
Gameplay: Having a single weapon and three spells isn’t a bad thing. The reason it works so well is because your charms can augment how you play. You can build around nail arts, build around your spells, build around your dash doing the damage for you, build around nail spam which you seem to favor. Later in the game you unlock new movement abilities that alter how you approach dodging attacks. Enemy design is also consistently evolving and testing your ability to use all of your options together. It’s fun to learn how to master each skill, which is why so many people still play this game years later
Lore: Common complaint I hear for this game and other game like Dark Souls. Yes, the story is very non-linear, but if you don’t understand the premise by the end of the game then that’s your fault. I completely understood there was an infection, I was a vessel, and vessels are the only beings that can contain the infection. By the time I defeated the Hollow Knight, I completely understood what my adventure was about without looking up a video or checking the wiki. I understand it doesn’t work for some people, but that doesn’t mean it is bad.
Characters: The characters aren’t supposed to go on some elaborate developmental character arc. Most are side characters that the player may or may not talk to, so there isn’t enough time for all of them. Even then, Quirrel and Cloth at least get their respective arcs still. Cornifer is a map man, he sells maps. You shouldn’t expect any other development from the map guy and if you do you are just being picky. Zote is also a joke character. He exists to make you laugh, which is why he is a meme and nothing more. Hornet is a character the majority of people care about. She’s the only true child of the Pale King and serves as Hallownest’s last defender. Upon meeting you she is dismissive and thinks of you as nothing else but another stray vessel unfit to become anything more. As she follows you in your adventure she becomes less hostile and instead respects your presence. After you prove yourself she gives you the Kingsbrand and pushes you to become the next Hollow Knight. This culminates in the true ending where she flies in during the fight and helps you enter the Hollow Knight’s mind to defeat the radiance. There’s the change you begged for. It’s right there and you ignored it.
Ergonomy: Walls that can be broken are visibly cracked and walls that can be passed through don’t have a flat wall, floor, or ceiling. Your eyes do the work and if you think you have to hit EVERY single wall you are just being stupid.
The game is not overrated
@Oyou My dude really complaining about the backgrounds being dull and sad when the game's set in a *fallen kingdom*, and about the gameplay being uninteresting when you're the one who didn't bother to explore and do interesting things..? What in the world...? What are you, a gamer-Karen?
@Oyou “Difficulty:None”
I’m starting to feel you just watched a walkthrough of the game and didn’t actually play it. Cause Hollow Knight has some difficult bosses such as NKG, Absolute Radiance, Pure Vessel, Markoth, and several more.
@Oyou standing here, i watch this argument. And agree with splotch.
@Oyou bruh Celeste story is linear while hollow knight is non-linear (because metroidvaina) also the way you complained about the games art style is like complaining that iron lung looks like crap and you can make the game better on blender
Also
1- the is no true ending (as stated by the dev)
2- spells do way more damage than your knife (forgot what it was called ) without charms even your knife is fully Upgraded
3-(for the wall breaking one) have you ever played a Metroidvania because they are all like this (remember when the gow dev took hours on a single room because he didn’t know that there are breakable blocks above him the whole time )
5- also the lore is pretty straightforward to understand once you actually look for it.
6- isn’t there a mode in the game where you have to fight all the bosses but because it has to be in a different save file, you only have what you have at the start of the game.
"The game makes you go back through 5+ screens of enemies to get back to the boss"
Bestie got stuck in soul sanctum ONCE and never tried again 💀
Great game, though I must admit, it had tons of "bugs".
i like that joke
White Lady is a bug?
have been searching for this lol
stoP
And there are extremely crappy boss fights in the waterways
In my 1st playthrough, I went right instead of left at the Crossroads and got stuck :/ I went back left, got map, defeated aspids, and defeated false knight. However, after beating false knight, I went right instead of left (because I thought the boss was only for geo) and missed vengeful spirit. I wandered around the Crossroads for a long time, beat gruz mother, brooding mawlek, rescued sly. When I looked at the map, I thought "oh, false knight? I already went there, there's no need to go back" I literally bought everything I could from iselda, sly, and salubra. I thought one of these items was how to get to the next area. I used lantern to go to c peaks. I went through dark room, fell into r grounds, and got d nail. It took me 5 hours to beat xero, because my bench was the c peaks dark room bench. (I didn't have claw so I couldn't reach Xero from the side) I tried over and over and lost 400 geo, but I succeeded. I had no Idea what in the world I was supposed to do, so I Uninstalled. Just kidding, no I didn't. I watched fireb0rn videos and then I realized I was supposed to get vengeful spirit. I agree that it can be sometimes confusing, but that's what a metroidvania is.
Ah yes that feeling when you find the huge borehole into Resting Grounds for the first time:
"What the FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-------------------"
That is quite the story. Pretty funny too
I did all that without vengeful spirit or dash
@@Shawblade Usually by the time you're spending hours farming geo for items from shops you should have thought, "I must have missed something"
@@AndrewJohnson-ny5nx I thought that I would need the items to progress further into the game, that's why I farmed geo to buy them.
I feel like Hollow Knight is very rewarding as I tried to fight Grimm way to early on and I kept dying but with a bit of patience and general understanding of the bosses attacks I got it done and I felt so rewarded it’s insane!
Oh my God I remember Grimm he was not easy I never could beat the nightmare version I barely could beat the first one lol randomizer or no
9:44 I'll admit, I had a similar experience to this reviewer at one point. But unlike them, instead of leaving a 0 star review when I felt stuck between brick walls, I just looked stuff up, because I enjoyed the game and wanted to continue with it, and voila, I'm no longer stuck. I tried to play most of it without spoiling myself of course but once I started to dread searching everywhere again I decided to go to Google
I do sort of wish there was an optional way to see what specific rooms still have stuff hidden, because not everything has obtainable map markers like the grubs do, and there's no way I would have discovered all the breakable walls on my own, particularly the one that locks the entire Grimm storyline behind it
Something akin to the map rooms in super metroid? that game puts a lil dot on a room that contains a secret and finding the map room fills your whole map in, thereby revealing what rooms have stuff hidden in them without actually showing you how they're hidden. Cornifer fills the purpose of the map on its own but they could have had a modified thing where you find a certain other npc within a region and if you've got the map already you can pay them to mark either one or all rooms that have secrets, or perhaps just the secrets that you can currently access. I think it is. . . maybe against the spirit of the game's focus on exploring to do so, but I could see the appeal of such a feature.
Alternate option, something like the x-ray visor, also from super metroid, which when used on a wall will reveal if it's a normal wall or if it needs a special tool to open.
@@Splitcyclewastaken yeah, something like that... something i think that could have worked is after buying every map from cornifer and he goes home, you could talk to him there and pay him to put a random marker on your map locating something of interest you haven't discovered. as he's scouting and mapping areas he must have some rumors or suspicions of those things. and it's not like you'd get these hints for free
idk what it is w gamers sometimes but they absolutely refuse to look stuff up and will drop the game before doing so on some occasions
@@twinbruisesonmyshins I'm scared of running into spoilers when I look stuff up, and I wanna experience everything by myself but it's kinda impossible for Hollow Knight
But like for a game you shouldn't be forced to look things up that is just a failure on the game's part especially if it happens more than once. On my blind play-through, I missed so many things and b/c of the requirement of some abilities and the size of the map, I spent over half of my play-through walking around. Don't get me wrong, I liked the game and at first, the novelty of walking around and figuring things out was great you get to the maxed size of the map and are looking for the one thing you need, and it starts to become a bad game.
Like the last reviewer, I also had trouble figuring out and remembering what areas opened up after I got claw or wings or shade cloak. So I went to Iselda and bought some pins to mark the map with when exploring. The game literally has nearly that exact feature they proposed, they just have to mark it themselves to remember when they see an out of reach area.
I did the same thing except I completely forgot to mark anything so I'm wandering around for hours trying to see if a new area is unlocked for me already lol
I did that and then I forgot what mental colour coding I used for the different markers
I used that same system. Blue markers for things I need items I don’t have to get to, red markers for “I’ve tried this boss so many times, send help”
@@georgerobins4110 Wait, so you DON'T retry that same boss for 10+ hours until you finally beat it?? Failed Champion took me 8-10 hours to beat because I REFUSED to accept defeat a 112th time
@@angeluriel2725 that was me exactly with Watcher Knights and NKG. After the first couple failed attempts, I watched some tutorials on TH-cam for better strats, then I rammed my face at them repeatedly until I finally beat them (not literally trying to facetank ofc lol). Some of the people shown in the video may view looking up help as cheating, but hey, if a little cheating here and there helps you enjoy the game more instead of ragequitting and writing a salty review, I'm fine with that.
Someone probably already pointed this out, but I think the review at 3:20 refers to enemies you have to kill twice for them to 100% die
isn’t that just the flukemons though?
@@nategwright yea, true, but I think the comment probably mostly refers to the enemies that can still damage you even when you've killed them, like the Ooma's and the Spiny Husk's and the corrupted version of Vengeflies that go boom boom. but yea, true, they're not "respawning", but they're still able to damage you even when you've killed them.
Man, if these guys are complaining this hard about hornet, I'd love to see them try nightmare king Grimm.
"Bad game don't recommend
It took me a whole ass year but I finally beat troupe master and I think maybe that was it
But no more backtracking around the map looking for ridiculous red flames because this game sure enjoys wasting my time
10 hours later after beating all 3 bosses scattered around the map in the most inconvenient possible place's
THERE'S ANOTHER BOSS WTF DON'T PLAY THIS GAME
IT'S BEEN 20 YEAR'S AND I STILL HAVEN'T BEAT HIM"
Lol
I died repeatedly to the False Knight when I first started playing. Much, much, later, I beat Nightmare King Grimm on Radiant. So I guess there's a lesson here about persistence or something.
I'm wondering which Hornet the guy was talking about... Greenpath's Hornet Guardian is really easy, and somehow I'm believing that the reviewer didn't get to Hornet Sentinel near Kingdom's Edge.
@@mastermewtwo5503 if he didn't mention the rematch in kingdom's edge, you know it's because he doesn't know about it. So, it's definitely greenpath hornet.
Well, now I kind of want to see a mod that removes enemy respawn. True Steelsoul, everything stays dead.
Ok, but you also dont respawn
@@geckoanims yes, and??
@@geckoanims yeah, but Steelsoul with no respawned enemies actually makes the game easier as you progress. Just makes it hard if not impossible to 100%/112%.
I feel like it could potentially make things harder. No easy access to soul, and I'm almost certain there are some places where pogoing is required that would become impassible once you kill the enemy.
Harder to get geo early, impossible for stuff like Dream Nail before Vengeful Spirit... Imagine if that still applied to the Colosseum though, and you just walked into the trial for the second time and they immediately gave you more money for doing nothing.
8:25 he just got warped to white palace for some reason I guess
I thought Deepnest
I remember when I first started playing I was so excited, i beat gruz mother, found sly, didn't even notice salubra, SPRINTED up to go find him in dirt mouth, saw the simple key and got so excited because I though that the door to jiji's was the door to the rest of the kingdom. I ran around trying to gather enough money, found false knight, couldn't beat him so I just did the skip and ran to the shaman thinking I was close to the end of the game or at least the big middle..... I was sooooo wrong. I wish I could play for the first time again
I'm honestly so confused. I'm the definition of a casual gamer, and hollow knight was only the second game I ever played...22 hours to beat Hornet?! Come on 😂
Hollow Knight was my second game and that’s ridiculous, I very much doubt those numbers. I mean, it took me 17 hours to Path of Pain.
Hollow Knight is my first game and I can't remember how many hours in I beat her but I don't remember Hornet being that bad lmao. Hornet 2 maybe coz she's a little faster and more unpredictable but Hornet 1 is still in the realm of introductory like False Knight
Maybe they meant 22 hours of total play time? Like, from the start of the game, by the time they beat hornet it was 22 hours? I can maybe see that. Casual + bad at platformers maybe + trying to explore a lot
@@beybl7869 Yeah I replied to you comment saying maybe its possible, but then actually read the rest of the review and they also say they spend 36 hours 'getting lost'. So yeah, doesnt sound like they are saying they played for 22 hours total, they are actually saying they played for 50+ hours exploring and beating hornet total. I don't know, if a game grabs me so much that I spend 50+ hours playing it, I probably wouldnt leave a zero star review. Plus they literally say they are 'not a casual player' so the numbers just seem unlikely to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@unknownperson8527 took me like 10 minutes of actually fighting the boss lmao
This had me in tears, especially the person who spent 22 hours on hornet 💀😭
6:41
I love how he just stops reading after “22 hours to beat Hornet” 😂
I kinda understand those guys: sometimes you are so frustrated and disappointed (in yourself) you just want to spit it out and get some shoulder pats or something.
No forgiveness for comments about atmosphere tho: I literally CRIED when I discovered that cool place with bench near window in the City of Tears..
Honestly same. City of Tears is still my favourite area for the music alone.
Deepnest is my favourite area because it's atmosphere is so good. I definitely don't get the atmosphere complaints because that's probably the best aspect of the game after it's music
@@pluto3194 DEEPNEST!? I salute you, brave soldier
@@voidnoidoid
It's a great area! It really feels like the whole place is trying to kill you at all times and I love that. Definitely not for everyone but I really like it
Yep. Suddenly seeing quirell on a bench and sitting beside him with that look on the knight's face, so much vibe and atmosphere damn!
As a hollow knight player with no skill these people do not speak for us smh I still enjoy the game so much and it feels incredibly rewarding to see your improvement as the game goes on for example I used to take incredibly long to fight hornet but I realized each time I tried I got better and that felt great!! Or when I finally beat soul master lol
"the enemies shouldnt respawn" ok so you want to find every single relic for geo?
Or do colos with basic gear to get the geo to upgrade it I guess?
Or perhaps you want the flower quest to be absolutely not challenging at all?
Or do you want to lose out on platforming skips, maybe if the enemies didn't respawn why should you?
Especially the shade enemies in the abyss, I'd like to see those people say they can't respawn when the player can.
Or try to complete the Hunters Journal and fail miserably?
Also I don't know how many relics there are but 4 arcane eggs makes 4800 geo, maybe 20k- 30k from everything else, you would barely afford a max nail, no extra charms and stuff, no more mask shards and yeah
I particulary love the "You have to dodge 20 times to hit once" review, because even in my first playthrough I remember being an absolute monster hitting the enemy as much as I could, of course, that got me killed a lot of times, but I never thought about the combat that way because it just depends on your fighting style.
I used the "22 hours to beat Hornet" review to benchmark my first playthrough and see how much I could get done in the timespans mentioned. By 22 hours I'd gotten Coiled Nail, absorbed Herrah, and had every movement ability outside of Monarch Wings. And I'd gotten my first ending by 36 hours. So at least that review was useful for something, as it gave me challenges to meet 😆
7:11 this one sounds like a live poem reading at some small bar where it’s trying to sound profound *finger snaps*
22 hours to beat hornet has me cackling
I’m not a god gamer by any stretch of the imagination and even I beat hornet within an hour of encountering her lmfaoooo
Yeah I was terrible at the game and beat her in like 45 minutes. 22 hours on a literal tutorial boss is insane to me
The cuphead journalist
Bruh I first tried hornet lmaoooooo
An hour is fast tho
Guess I am worse than I thought, hornet took 50 tries
Reviewers: "why am i getting knocked back when i attack"
Me: "It's called recoil"
I loved the "archaic" save system at the end, especially since they bring up dark souls and you can't tell me the save systems aren't basically the same
They...aren't though...in HK quitting out sends you back to the last rested at bench, which could be miles away.
In Dark Souls, you quit out and you just pick up right where you left off. In a boss? Cool, you're right in front of the boss room, go right ahead champ.
@@cosmic2750 i think they meant dying then rage quitting hoping to outrun the save but they load in either dead or in the death animation
the negative reviews are always just significantly funnier
‘uinstalled’
It's always like 'waa I played a game with genre aspects I don't like and I didn't end it liking up )): Why is this happening 0/10 uninstalled'
@@kalamies. exactly x’D but I think you meant ‘end up liking it’ :p
@@SecondFloor2311 the terrible grammar is part of the satirical review
@@kalamies. You forgot “uinstalled”
You just wander around a massive maze. Me: THATS THE POINT
"the map is too confusing" clearly this person has never opened a gps before
Yo wut gps ain’t that hard
It took me 10 hours to beat The Radiance (base game, not Abs Rad) my first playthrough, but I could tell it was a really well made boss. Just because I'm not good at a fight doesn't mean it's not a good fight
I honestly really liked the Radiance, at first I was completely unable to beat her, but once I finally figured out the technique to doing so, I felt like a true God Gamer. Shame that the people in the reviews didn't play long enough to experience that.
I took me 4 and a half hours to beat NKG and that's my favourite boss in the game. I'll never understand people who fail a few times and are like "the game is the problem, not me!"
@@Comboowo Yeah it is a shame. You realize you're challenging what looked like a sun and the being that was hallownest downfall. Then its moveset lives up to the hype, It literally felt impossible the first few times. learning to beat it was punishing, but really rewarding once you make some progress. That was the best part of hollow knight for me excluding the story.
@@joshuam7749 Yeah, the Radiance becomes fun to beat once you've figured out how to do so, since it becomes a lot easier. Just don't chase her when she teleports, and heal up as much as possible. Basically, play defensively. It's hard to do that at first, though, since the Hollow Knight is the complete opposite, where you just spam spells and heal very rarely, since you regain full health when you enter the Radiance boss battle.
I feel bad for the people who never experienced the adrenaline rush when you beat watcher knights
I'll admit, sometimes I had to look up locations for obscure things, like 2 of the 4 simple keys. But let's be honest here, that's just because I'm bad and impatient at times. The game is still fantastic.
6:42 I LOVE how you can't help but chuckle at the 22 hour to beat hornet part
It took me two years to beat the second Hornet fight lmao (it was due to both me being really bad at the game and the fact that I couldn't play everyday due to schoolwork and burnout). I still beat her and I am now, slowly, exploring queen's gardens. After beating her I discovered a whole bunch of areas I just didn't notice, and I beat the Mantis Lords on my second try. Honestly, as long as you just keep going and trying you'll find more things and cool stuff and let's be real, the game is too beautiful to just drop.
My sympathies about the schoolwork! I bought HK in 2018 but I was like I'm not gonna touch it till I finish my degree. I defended my thesis last November and then I binged it haha
As someone who is a very-slow-to-improve gamer and loved taking HK slow, I felt this in my soul
Mantis Lords on your second try is impressive, there's nothing lacking about your skill if that happened
@@steveng813 why thank you! I ended up learning their attack patterns by watching too many videos of people speedrunning the game while I couldn't play it, so it ended up being easier than I would have thought. I was very surprised myself, aha!
the 22 hours for hornet just sounds like a skill issue.
Personally, the game was too hard for me.. so I used mods to make it easy enough for me to progress and enjoyed the fuck out of it for 40+ hours and counting anyways. The person who gave themselves invincibility and was still so salty about the difficulty is hilarious.
I used God mode to kill Soul Master. I also had about 5 frames of input delay on average though.
It would be cool if hollow knight had an assist mode like Celeste maybe
@@ninatheinkling5748 it would be cool if Hollow Knight made it so that after you got the true ending or something you could start a file but with all the abilities and areas unlocked. Like a game mode called ‘exploration’ or something.
@@JustARandomPersonLol69420 thats just new game+
@ninatheinkling5748 "this mode is not intended for a first experience and may not be as enjoyable as the classic version. It is only recommended for those that want to experience the game without certain difficult aspects." And then just toggle some options like more nail damage, infinite soul, more charm notches, less expensive items, whatever. That would be a good addition for silksong, but I get it if they don't want to add that
3:40 "there are no objectives or objective markers" hoo boy, we've found a real person who likes being handheld in videogames, guess this person loves "quests"
8:00 emmm..in the reviewr's defense, i think the sentence means that the physics are so sluggish and unwieldy the knight may as well be a wet blanket...in a physical sense
I think what he meant to say was "wet noodle," just for being devil's advocate.
Still dumb though.
Regarding the first comment, Iselda’s pins exist for a reason. Not that I use them anyway, since I mostly remember the locations for the objectives I needed to achieve.
@@cappilau7448 The markers are pretty good to indicate doors you can't open yet or treasures you can see but don't know how to reach yet. It also means you can keep track of just how many items or unreachable/unopenable paths you've passed so far.
I remember getting stuck on the first hornet for 1-2 hours and was so frustrated, and went to the lower area (forgot the name- where you get moth wings) but I didnt have crystal heart or any of that and couldnt get back out of the area for a long while. Thought I soft locked myself. But I'm glad I didnt give up and eventually got to explore the whole game a lot more.
To be honest these comments make you laugh and also feel good about yourself for being able to actually beat this incredibly hard game for hyperactive youngsters.
I even killed something in aerial combat once. Turns out it is not impossible. No I don't have screenshot to prove it :P
I don’t consider myself really good at games and I probably spent a bit longer then most on some bosses, but when I managed to beat them it felt sooooo good. It’s very rewarding, and not infuriating like some other games. Soul master did piss me off a bit but when I died it was mostly my fault. Stuck on nightmare king grim at the moment I refuse to beat the game without upgrading my beautiful baby grim one last time.
I'm wondering how many of those reviews were left by people who went into the game expecting it to be a certain way and then refused to adapt to the game when it wasn't what they wanted to be. Like they probably expected face tanking to be a valid strategy and then got mad when that didn't work instead of figuring out a better strategy.
yeah sorry about this but what does face tanking mean? I genuinely don't know.
@@bruhtendr392 Basically 'Face-tanking' means standing directly in front of a baddie and taking his attacks with little effort to dodge relying only on active healing or passive defenses to save you. Usually a term for mmo's or RPGs, and obviously a strategy that won't work in a game where you have five hp and no defence, unless you count lifeblood.
@@Dracoocard oh so like it's basically being a tank
To be fair, there's a lot of games you expect to enjoy only to realize the mechanics are not for you
That's perfectly fine. You shouldn't be forced to enjoy a game simply because you bought it
I thought I'd love Smash Ultimate, turns out it's still way too slow and campy compared to the first two titles. That's just life
Quote by Einstein fits well here "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
this is a mix between zero patience, being oblivious, dumb, deaf, blind, among other things, also not knowing wtf steady body and pogoing off enemies is
If they actually dislike the graphics of HK, they must be one of those people that won’t play Minecraft because “it’s graphics are all pixelated.”
Or any good game that was pixelated,(undertale,deltarune, haiku the robot, Celeste)
burh 90% of the good games I've played are pixelated(maybe cuz I have a potato pc)
I love pixilated games, I've played megaman
That moment when the review says "dull, forgettable soundtrack"
that's the only one that made me angry
*screaming noises intensify*
Since I write music and learn all sorts of harmony about music and all that, I can clearly say this person has 0 appreciation for music. Like, clearly you wouldn’t be saying this if you actually heard themes like NKG and Sealed Vessel.
Oh but what am I saying, these people admit they’re trash at the game. I am too, though, and beat Radiance. Just git gud
NKG and Sealed are great pieces of music and I love them dearly but I stand by The Radiance theme as being a banger final boss theme
That physically hurt me
“This game has to rely on touch damage and *attacks by the enemy* to make it harder” 💀
"Not every game is for everyone."
That makes a hell of a lot of sense, actually. Because if a game truly is "for everyone", as in, everyone can supposedly enjoy it no matter what taste they have in video games, then it'd be really boring for everyone. Probably the reason why people like FromSoftware more than EA.
Edit: Started actually watching the video, and now I'm convinced over half of these "reviews" are just trolls seeking attention.
Have you tried Steel Mantis games? They are amazing as well. Mecha Therion is awaited by me just like Silksong!
Taking down Hydravok boss took me 3 days on Normal mode, now I play Valfaris second time on Hard.
I'm having a right chuckle trying to read these salt-filled reviews in Zote's voice
Now THAT's what we need!
Zote has no voice (to cry suffering)
@@Shawblade Why would the Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful, Grey Prince Zote ever need to cry suffering?
*Tiso's
the fact that there are people who took an entire day to beat hornet while im here with only 3 - 4 tries ☠
Same
On the last review, he called the save system archaic, dark souls, hollow knight, minecraft and hundreds of other games have that save system. Touch this object, if die poof back to that object.
Bonfire, bench, bed
i think they wanted something like a quicksave/quickload system which wouldnt really make sense for this type of game
I feel like a lot of this reviews could have convinced me to get the game.
Lots of backtracking and the map is "confusing"? Guess I will be able to explore in peace with being pressured in a direction.
Lore hard to grab? - oh I have to figure if out from clues
Hard bosses? Cool challenge, I take it
Lots of dying? Ha nostalgic memories to the time where every videogame was like that for me. I got exited after every hard time to earn whatever is coming
yeah like ive died many many times in hollow knight, but i didnt just uninstall and instead pushed though the challenge, the amount of happiness and proudness im filled with once i do succeed is great, obviously those people dont have perseverance or determination, like, at all
These are some of the reasons why it's my favourite game
9:17 "Unfathomably hollow" YES, WE DID IT BOYS, WE *ARE* THE HOLLOW KNIGHT
I had (still have) a lot of struggle with the game, but I still loved it sooo much
The more you play, the better you get, even if you don't realize it. If you go to start a new file, you'll see just how much more you know and can do (or else rush to get all the upgrades :j)
@@terrahatvol7960 I know, right! I started at a very noob gamer level, finished the game, took ages, and now I am on an okish level XD
@@terrahatvol7960 I can agree, I can beat 2nd hornet in my 2nd playthrough first try, despite hornet 2 driving me on the verge of tears in my 1st one
The first one happened to me too. But instead of giving up i played the game for multiple hours and learned how to pogo. And yes i was hulariosly bad at the game on my first playthrough.
I didn't learn how to pogo until Colosseum, I think...kept going
First time I played the game I gave up around after getting the Mantis claw. But recently I returned to the game because I got bored with other games and I actually Git Gud. True, I needed few tutorials on a few things, but now I am around the White Lady cocoon part, with all grubs, almost all charms (No Kingsoul tho), Two Colosseum trials and the current pain is normal Grimm
@@magdaciechocka3076 good luck. Grimm isn't so bad once you get the hang of him. Head to the Palace Grounds with the awakened dream nail next if you're not already headed there
@@lordhellstrande7188 I didn't learn that you could pogo obstacles until white palace. I did have to learn about it to get past the purple mushrooms in fungal, but it never occurred to me that you could pogo off of spikes and saws.
@@patrickmorrey8722 I didn't even figure it out with the mushrooms, so good on ya for figuring that out. I knew something was going on but just couldn't figure it out
Maybe by rigid he meant enemy hit box’s? Since sometimes they can be bigger than the sprites, but even then it’s by like an inch.
"Buggy, terribly optimized, horribly designed."
Ok, I gotta agree with the *Buggy* part.
Also it's really interesting how the ones who are giving negativity to HK is almost always the ones who enjoyed Ori.
To be fair I tried out Ori after playing Hollow Knight and I quit after the tree dungeon. Didn’t like that there was so little focus on combat and when the dungeon ended with an elaborate platforming section rather than a boss battle I kinda figured that the game wasn’t gonna be for me. Even in Hollow Knight I vastly prefer the combat and exploration over the platforming. Both games are good and they’re both metroidvanias but I don’t necessarily think they will appeal to the same kinds of people.
@@NemoTheDreamO yeah i agree with you on the art/music they are both absolutely amazing. what i found is that Ori is a nice escape game when i'm having trouble with a boss fight/level in a game. i'm currently working on path of pain and 5th pantheon for my 112% completion for HK, and i'm also playing No Man's Sky so Ori is my escape when i get frustrated with those two.
@@NemoTheDreamO which ori? will of the wisps combat was great, I also enjoyed hollow knights combat
@@Awesomeflame16 what I was gonna say too. The Blind Forest's combat wasn't special. Only one hit attacks (HK also has basic nail hits) but Will of the Wisps has great combat and playstyle variety.
Ori and the blind forest: good
Ori and the will of the wisps: great
Hollow Knight: the best game I've ever played
Ter- can't talk about that one it's to good