BOOST HOT WATER PRESSURE - CT Force pump

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  • @plumberparts
    @plumberparts  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Links to the tools I use everyday here:* www.amazon.co.uk/shop/plumberparts
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    • @psychocybernetics1347
      @psychocybernetics1347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude!!! So recently put in pump in airing cupboard and now customer says her airing cupboard no longer works 🤭. Not sure what to say to her. Any thoughts? Any one come across this?

    • @davidwilson7579
      @davidwilson7579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi we just put in a pump on our boiler tank it keeps on burning out the neutral wire do I need a new thermostat to suit the pump

    • @martingoodright2791
      @martingoodright2791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ito switching off and it seems noisy I have good flow in the kitchen and the bathroom taps but the shower has little flow, is my pump faulty or have I got something else going on. If you can help me understand what's happening I would be most grateful. Thanks Martin

    • @martingoodright2791
      @martingoodright2791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good morning I'm trying to find out where or what is happening as when I hooked up and then after following the instructions my pump is not a auto switching and seems noisy I have good pressure in my kitchen and bathroom taps but my shower as very little flow if you could help me understand what's going on or where I've gone wrong would be most grateful for your help. Thanks Martin

  • @KurtYates-y2j
    @KurtYates-y2j 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just fitted a ct force pump after watching your tutorial,work great ,love the channel 👍

  • @TheEulerID
    @TheEulerID 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have you tried looking at warwick flanges? They are approved by Salamander too, and work in the same way save that the pump outlet comes out the top whilst the hot water outlet is on the side. The advantage of those, is due to the rotating collar, there is complete freedom of direction on both. I've fitted a couple. As the pump feed comes out the top, I also put a manual air vent into the loop above as it allows air to be purged when it's filled.
    On those top fittings, I also seal them with a tiny smear of LS-X sealant, as on old tanks they rarely make a good seal with the fibre washers. As for putting PTFE tape on the thread, then I suppose it might make the fitting easier to remove, but those fittings aren't sealed by the thread, they are sealed at the mating surface on the fibre washer.

  • @charlieyoungman5950
    @charlieyoungman5950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve just fitted one after seeing this video and THANK YOU. The difference is bordering on being life changing

  • @jeremyward5339
    @jeremyward5339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant video with loads of useful tips and tricks. I was particularly impressed with the noise - or lack of noise rather! Thanks a lot.

  • @robertlowe5795
    @robertlowe5795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are worth your weight in gold no kidding! bob here again had this problem for a while flat kitchen bathroom tank on same level,dead slow problem solved thanks to this vid a pump never crossed my mind .my best to family again take care be safe with virus knocking about bob lowe.

  • @BloomingEck
    @BloomingEck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You did a similar video 5 years ago - ie boosting hot water pressure from an indirect cylinder, gravity fed. You mentioned the possibility of air getting into the pump being negligible if the pump had 2-3 meters head; does that advice still hold ?. As in your video I want to feed a number of taps not just a shower - would a surrey flange not 'throttle' the flow ?

  • @andregriffiths263
    @andregriffiths263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi James lovely vids as always have you heard of Shower Power Booster pumps and if so what do you think?

  • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
    @BariumCobaltNitrog3n 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sparky here, thanks for the shout out, electrical should never be DIY unless it plugs in. And you don't EVER want an extension cord running to a pump like that.
    Those stairs, yikes. I'm clean and dry. great vid, good etiquette.

    • @glenn20081965
      @glenn20081965 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Question for a sparky: Why do we need a fused spur as opposed to a socket with a plug. They are both fused and yet a socket is more convenient.

    • @jimdbanjo
      @jimdbanjo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@glenn20081965 A fused spur is for stationary equipment which should not be turned off unless for maintenance or in a fault situation.
      If it was a socket, the plug could be pulled out by accident or by someone not knowing what it is for.

  • @jcsubmit
    @jcsubmit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any thoughts on boosting pressure on a HWC where the header tank is tiny and will run dry quickly? Very constrained header tank space.

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are able to boost the water within the hot water cylinder, but having a small CWS tank can lead to the pump running dry which causes damage to the pump. We do offer a water starvation protection kit which can be fitted to the CWS tank and then wired into the pump. This will cut the pump out when the water level passes a certain depth. Thanks

  • @rogergarrick620
    @rogergarrick620 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Mate Im a licenced plumber in Queensland Australia, I'm moving over to Wolsatanton ,Newcastle - Under - Lyme next month to live. UK plumbing is so different to Australia, we haven't used soft solder for over 30 years, we only use silver soldered joints, so that is a BIG learning curve. I have watched a huge amount of your plumbing tips, they are fantastic. Just like to say keep up the great work. I need to have my qualifications recognised by UK plumbing, then I'm sorted and remember HOLD TIGHT

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Man, you must be mad! Stay in lovely OZ! England's climate is going to make you wince bro! But thatnks for your comments. If you need any help you know where I am!

    • @Gazza3501
      @Gazza3501 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roger Garrick Totally insane I'd say lol, good luck.

    • @ownyourworld
      @ownyourworld 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stay there

    • @stevo0861
      @stevo0861 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can silver solder, you'll find soft sweat soldering a piece of cake.

    • @TheEulerID
      @TheEulerID 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This puzzled me a lot. Why would soft soldering be banned (lead free I can understand). After reading the linked, it looks like it's a regional thing in Australia which depends on the water. Silver soldering, I would have thought, would be expensive and troublesome, especially with the high temperatures required.
      www.kembla.com/assets/Uploads/general-PDFs/Plumbers-Handbook-9th-Edition-July18.pdf
      "The chemical composition of water in some areas may preclude the use of soft soldered joints. Check with the local Authority" - P27.
      There are also a bunch of other restrictions on soft soldering, such as not being used under concrete slabs, not to be used in gas pipes and so on. In all, even though soft soldering is banned entirely, there are still lots of situations where it is not.

  • @gdfggggg
    @gdfggggg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,
    I just want to increase the pressure to the hot taps in a 4 storey house to the top floor as the other floors are fine. The hot water supply tank is at the top in the loft and the hot storage tank is right at the very bottom of the property. Where would I need to install the pump to increase the flow to that part of the house? I’m guessing take a feed right at the bottom of the house next to hot storage tank exactly as you did in this vid and supply that floor separate to everywhere else?
    Many thanks for your help
    Gibbins.

  • @scottobrien1334
    @scottobrien1334 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CT Force is a shower pump rather than a whole house pump. Assuming you are happy that you are unlikely to be running the shower and kitchen taps at the same time, would this be sufficient to boost both outlets as needed? (Standard shower head, one kitchen tap and one bathroom tap).

  • @andrewriley4756
    @andrewriley4756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Can I use this solution if I already have 2 showers with twin impeller pumps fitted to the same hot water circuit. I would expect the tap pump to kick in when the shower is turned on if it is fitted at the first outlet from the cylinder.

  • @elwittinio2865
    @elwittinio2865 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just been to a job tonight with exactly this problem. But for a shower gravity fed. Looked at loads of pumps, and I’ve just seen your video. Never a fan of the twin pumps or pumps in general, but needs must. Helped me out a treat, many thanks 🤟🤟

  • @PaulSmith-k6x
    @PaulSmith-k6x 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would this also work for a downstairs shower to give the hot water enough of a boost to work ok with a thermostatic shower (where the cold water is fed from the mains cold water supply) ??

  • @knightbeat
    @knightbeat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see this problem coming. We have a 35W combi boiler fitted last year. We are building a new extension with a second shower room. I think we will have a low pressure on hot water afterwards. Is there a way to address that issue? The boiler will be in the garage (ground level), the new shower also will be in the ground level, but the existing bathroom is upstairs.

  • @constantinbarzu6072
    @constantinbarzu6072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have got a twin pump which it used to be for shower . Can I use it as single pump only for hot water on sinks ? Thank you !

  • @Abritontheside
    @Abritontheside 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Salamander pump in my downstairs shower. Would there be any consequences in fitting another pump to my kitchen, laundry room? Bathroom sinks, and the bath, and would I need a larger pump? Thanking you in advance.

  • @richardheywood6392
    @richardheywood6392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this pump work in my situation? My house has no gas or oil. My central heating is just all old storage heaters. I have a cold water storage tank sitting above a direct hot water cylinder with the immersion heater in this heating my hot water. I did have all my cold taps and toilet (exception being kitchen cold tap) fed by gravity coming straight off tank and all my hot water obviously gravity from the cylinder. A plumber has re plumbed my bathroom so that every cold outlet is now directly off the mains but obviously hot water still gravity. I want a mixer shower on the bath ran straight off a deck mixer thermostatic tap on the bath. I've been told these require equal hot and cold inlet pressures. Would the ct force pump be the answer to this situation?

  • @robertallen3441
    @robertallen3441 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trying to boost the flow to upstairs hot taps but my hot water pipe from the cylinder goes back up into the loft and across the floor before dropping down to the upstairs bathroom and on to the downstairs tap. Would this type of pump be suitable for my application?

  • @barryspiers6956
    @barryspiers6956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this, quick question. The only problem I have is the kitchen mixer tap which has very low hot water pressure.
    My question is, I have a huge power shower pump in the loft, if I fitted this pump next to the water tank would it affect or damage the power shower pump.
    My house is a bungalow with the vented hot water tank at ground level, thank you for any assistance buddy.

  • @geoffcope1758
    @geoffcope1758 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi ThereWe have a gravity fed water system we could turn on the heating with turning on the hot water switch but since we had a new panel fitted we now hove to turn on the hot water before the heating will work is this correct.

  • @charlesflint9048
    @charlesflint9048 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, thanks for that. I’ve already bought a 120 w booster pump, but just needed that bit of extra reassurance as to the correct place to connect.

  • @mikefarquhar5063
    @mikefarquhar5063 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice, I have a question regarding a system same gravity fed hot water cylinder, low pressure and flow rate through hot water potable, but with some big differences, it is in a flat ground floor no upstairs just one floor, the f&e tank and the hotwater cylinder are all in one cupboard in the bathroom right next to the shower, the bottom of the f&e tank feeding the hotwater cylinder is 300mm head between the bottom of the f&e tank and the top of the shower head, and about 1.5mts head height between the bathroom basin tap,
    So all of the pipework is under the floor plenty space to get around down there, it's a system boiler else I'd have just went for a balanced system off a combi, but I'm looking for one simple fix- install a pump to boost the hot water.
    The plumber fitted a single impeller pump, not a salamander brand, something cheaper from toolstation, its a Stewart Turner showermate, it's not engaging not even with all hotwater taps, I think he's just rigged it to boost the shower, is that even possible?
    I thought if it was connected to the hot water pipe system then it would then have more flow rate and then engage pump vie flow switch and boost whole hot water including mixer shower.
    The pump sits above the base of the hot water cylinder by about 100mm right next to the cylinder.
    With just two pipe in q5mm pvc speed fit,
    Would having a larger bore pipe from cylinder to pump the to shower say 22mm help?
    or a header pipe at 1" then to 22mm to encourage flow?
    I would really appreciate your advice or any onput. Your channel is great! Very informative and a natural entertainer, you're obviously good at your job.
    Cheers, Mike.

  • @liggymancoalman3521
    @liggymancoalman3521 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video.
    1. Can I plumb a bypass to the pump and use the pump ONLY when showering ; If I swicth the pump off, can I expect the existing gravity flow to work smoothly , bypassing the pump ?
    2. Don't you need a pressure expansion tank to take care of hammering on the hot water line ?

  • @AngeLica-hf5fs
    @AngeLica-hf5fs ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. I’ve got ume of this in my flat but it’s too much pressure. Is there any way I can adjust it to pump less water? Many thanks

  • @simonfisher836
    @simonfisher836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi - Was looking at this exact solution as have the same setup but my plumber is saying it's not possible as I have an open vented system, is this correct or is he having me on?

  • @kevinhewitson1998
    @kevinhewitson1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the situation if there are already booster pumped showers in the property (hot and cold boost)? Would fitting an additional hot feed boost as in this video affect them at all?

  • @actiongirl5
    @actiongirl5 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I often find myself watching these videos even though I have no need for a pump and I do not have a gravity fed system....it is sometimes frightening how interesting your videos really are. lol. Just reading a few comments I though clearing the area for a tradesperson to work was the norm??? We had an external expansion vessel fitted to our boiler last week and it was sited in a really tight and awkward spot. I moved all small appliances out of the way, cleared the kitchen worktops from the side in use and I even pulled out the washer dryer and disconnected it so the area was set up ready for the plumber to get in and out. Must just be me but you can't expect the plumber to do all that.

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Mandyram. You're the exception then! Glad you like the vids!

    • @coreymcc
      @coreymcc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a plumber by trade... Mainly work new construction... If I called someone to come fix something in my house... I would do as much prep as possible... So I understand the expectation... I would want a home owner to clear their cabinet if I'm coming to fix a leak... Or whatever the situation... I guess it's only a select few who think this way... It happens more often then not.

    • @tracyhealy7984
      @tracyhealy7984 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being a plumber myself it’s always great when the customer clears the space more often than not they don’t, I don’t hold it against them though, when I start clearing the space the customer often panics and apologises for the ‘mess’ and having not thought about it in advance, it just depends on how much of a methodical thinker the customer is, I’ve been to extremely intelligent customers houses, you know the kind that can operate on a human brain but can’t understand the simple concept of I need to shut the supply down to work on the pipes. Common sense unfortunately isn’t that common and you are the best type of customer 👍

  • @JJ-jm2mr
    @JJ-jm2mr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Very useful info. Is S flange a compulsory? Can we just fit the pump without a S flange? Any problems with that? Thanks.

  • @PEXUniverse
    @PEXUniverse 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would using a circulator pump boost water pressure as well? Or would it just allow for better hot water supply?

  • @spheonspheon9073
    @spheonspheon9073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the over flow from the cylinder! The pump would surely pump the cylinder into the tank?

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the pump is installed correctly in line with the installation guidelines, it will not pump water into the tank. Thanks.

  • @Mackeson3
    @Mackeson3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had one just like that fitted but it died after 4 years. Is there a better quality one you can recommend?

  • @jasonlaw1969
    @jasonlaw1969 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    James can any single impeller pump work or does it have to be specifically for multi outlets... cheers

    • @UberAlphaSirus
      @UberAlphaSirus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      jason lawrence any will do, best to install a twin impeller to boost hot and cold if your thinking of using mixer taps or thermostatic mixer taps or showers anywhere.

    • @UberAlphaSirus
      @UberAlphaSirus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      What! no bypass!

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bang on mate!

    • @ScottyDog345
      @ScottyDog345 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Needs to be brass for hot domestic water.

    • @jesterwaterwizard2917
      @jesterwaterwizard2917 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay brass nuts in a world of plastic

  • @daraghevans7637
    @daraghevans7637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that 3/4 x 1/2 reducers on pump hoses

  • @wiggumo
    @wiggumo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does your electricity Bill's increase with a shower pump? Didnt realise it needed an eelxtroctu plug for it! Electricity

  • @turnnburn9926
    @turnnburn9926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, love the video but just a question about the pipework into the pump.
    I'm about to fit a twin shower pump and been told not to do 90 degree angles along the pipework, any views on that? thanks!

    • @MrLubba1974
      @MrLubba1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A bend in pipework can reduce the flow rate (pressure) of water going to the pump, especially if it's a soldered joint, use pipe benders for a better flow if really needed .

  • @stevenlewis9234
    @stevenlewis9234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is this around £400 all in including parts and labour of plumber and sparky? If so, I may have to live with my slow tap for a bit longer...

  • @liutaurasmezanskas4640
    @liutaurasmezanskas4640 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi ,i did not know ,that you can fit gravity fed pump to a mixer with mains fed cold water ?thanks

    • @pete240261
      @pete240261 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am considering doing this, can this be done ??

  • @cvarsani2190
    @cvarsani2190 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Under what situation would you need a pump which pumps both Hot water and Cold water - great to see how this needs to be installed

    • @SF-ze6go
      @SF-ze6go 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chandresh Varsani : a power shower, or a thermostatic shower need hot & cold of equal pressure. Has to be gravity fed, not mains.

  • @Chb1812
    @Chb1812 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @plumberparts i have the same system, which i am looking to replace with a combi boiler, is there any benefits for keeping the existing system?

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unless space is an issue I would change this to an unvented cylinder and keep your current boiler. Combi's are nothing but hassle!

    • @billpalmer2381
      @billpalmer2381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@plumberparts true

    • @Chb1812
      @Chb1812 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it’s the tank in the attic that is going to be taking up room in the loft room. Anyway to reduce the system size without the whole system Change?

  • @paulwatson2961
    @paulwatson2961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    James, I have fitted a salamander ct50 pump to a power shower with a Warwick valve, I have now replaced the basin and mixer tap, which is slow on the hot, I was thinking of fitting this pump to pressurise the sink and basin taps, I was just going to break into the outlet (as per your video) go to the pump and return back on the horizontal pipe just before the riser vent, would this work, or push water up the vent pipe, if it s a problem, could I just put a pump under the basin unit breaking the hot feed with the pump, as my problem is only with the bathroom basin, hope this makes sense,

    • @M-ski
      @M-ski 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joining your question here...

  • @ruahproduction1739
    @ruahproduction1739 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi .I have a twin impeller pump running my hot and cold.I just want the hot boosted and not the cold.can i bypass the cold and just blank of the cold side of the pump but leave the hot connected.thanks

  • @antoniogalluccio4213
    @antoniogalluccio4213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why there is always no shit off valve for the hot water the goes to the taps? I know the vent must not have a valve but after the tee fitting down, can there be a shut off valve?

  • @beachboardfan9544
    @beachboardfan9544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But why is the hot water flow low in the first place? Why wouldnt it flow just as well as the cold? They're both supplied from the mains... right?

    • @BassBinBert
      @BassBinBert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have asked myself the same question. I am not a plumber so I don’t know but I think this system is supplied by a header tank but it supplies the hot and cold pipes so you would think the pressure would be the same. I wondered if the head pressure was lost because there is so little water in the vent pipe. I’d be interested if anybody knows.

    • @Coleman_97
      @Coleman_97 ปีที่แล้ว

      The hot water is gravity fed not mains

  • @bavs21
    @bavs21 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top of the Surrey flange is usually 28mm. Did you use a copper pipe reducer to 22mm. Or did you use the reducer supplied. I often find reducers supplied aren't all that great and was thinking of used proper 28mm pipe reduced to 22mm. Also would 90degree bends be better than soldered elbows or is difference nominal? Any thoughts?
    BTW......I think your videos are great and very well put together.

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Surrey Flange or Salamander S Flange does come as a 28mm entry point at the top for the vent. Our Salamander S Flanges come with a reducer which will reduce the fitting from 28mm to 22mm for domestic pipework within the property and hot water cylinder. We would recommend to use 90 degree bends within the pipework as this will allow the water to flow better than using soldered elbows as this can restrict the water flow and reduce down the performance of the pump. Thanks

  • @soundsoundy3358
    @soundsoundy3358 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    does a twin pump system work ok pumping all hotwater around house? i.e pumping the main hot water out of tank to all taps, downstairs, bath, shower, bathroom sink? Obviously not all running at the same time.

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, A twin pump is for pumping both hot and cold water. If you want to only pump the hot, you will need to use a single negative head pump and fit a dedicated feed from the hot water cylinder via a Flange. If you need more information please give us a call on 0191 516 2002. Thanks

    • @barrymonahan8279
      @barrymonahan8279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SalamanderPumps I need this pump for my hot feed, but when i asked local dealer was told there is a chance of sucking in the tank it's self,would have to change the tank to a pressurised one,what you think, thanks Barry

  • @ophio101
    @ophio101 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I usually watch for fun but this time I am going in! Only issue is I have 2 hot pipes to deal with. Can you go from one outlet to 2 on this pump? Thank you please.

  • @edwardmccarthy899
    @edwardmccarthy899 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have very limited space within the airing cupboard and I’m fitting the pump featured in this video to boost hot water, can I install this pump on a shelf above the cylinder or does it specifically have to go on the floor to work correctly?

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      CT Force can be installed above the cylinder, however an anti-gravity loop must be fitted to prevent aeration. Further details are in your installation guide, which can also be accessed via our website www.salamanderpumps.co.uk/downloads.php

  • @markrimmer9028
    @markrimmer9028 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This a really helpful video. What is the best option for mains cold fed and gravity fed hot combination. Can you just pump the hot and reduce the cold mains by a PRV?

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, we would advise installing a single negative head pump, such as CT Force 30SU. Thanks.

  • @graeme9160
    @graeme9160 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alright Jimmy,
    Question for you...... I have bought this pump and have the same set up as the tank owner but!!! The tank I have purchased has a 22mm top boss and the salamander flange that you show us does not fit down the 22mm boss.
    Can you get flanges with say a 15mm inlet pipe???
    Cheers
    Graeme
    !HOLD TIGHT!

  • @ponemark
    @ponemark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just wondering would it not pump water up the vent pipe ?

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, if the pump is installed correctly, in line with the installation guidelines, it will not pump water up the vent pipe. Thanks.

  • @AisabTrebor
    @AisabTrebor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Don't you think the hot water supply pipe at the top should slightly rise towards vent pipe? Reason for that is to prevent parasitic circulation ( water convection in the same pipe), and save energy. BS 6700 and Building Reg part L state that clear.

    • @jonno-cr8lv
      @jonno-cr8lv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes he showed this in the video

  • @martindorrance8133
    @martindorrance8133 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    James, I’m about to fit a twin impeller for a power shower using a S flange but using compression fittings. Is this ok? Also, what if your customer wanted a power shower too? I have low flow on the hot gravity fed water like your customer so I was wondering if I need a second (single impeller) pump!

  • @glenn20081965
    @glenn20081965 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you explain if the S flange is a separate purchase and or what they are used for and are they essential?

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Glenn The S flange and other approved flanges are ideal for any pump installation as they stop air getting into the pump from the hot water tank and causing damage. They are not the only approved method of feeding from the Hot water
      cylinder. You can use the first tee on the downward leg for the CT Force pump if necessary.

  • @nathanreihill8737
    @nathanreihill8737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi could you post a link to this pump please, thanks

  • @glenn20081965
    @glenn20081965 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did everything in the video and it works a treat, except the shower. All the taps downstairs and upstairs work much better but when I put the shower on the pump does not kick in. It had an average pressure before and was adequate for a shower but I'm at a loss as to why the pump does not come on. Is it because of the mixer tap in the shower?

    • @pete240261
      @pete240261 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am considering installing one and have the same set up. Is you cold water in the mixer tap on mains pressure or fed from the tank

  • @gamwam
    @gamwam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about if you want to boost both hot and Cold? My shower has terrible pressure on both feeds

  • @sparkyt6497
    @sparkyt6497 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I already have a pump which has a 3 speed is this in addition to that pump

  • @joekicker9188
    @joekicker9188 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi James I am going to do a extension to my house & putting in a pressurised system from a gravity system with 2 pressurised bar showers, the flow rate is 16l min with 3 bar pressure from the outside tap will I have great pressure for the showers or will I need a pump/acculameter thanks love the videos

    • @jordanackland9588
      @jordanackland9588 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3 bar incoming main should be defiantly enough to for the pressurised vessel, just make sure plumber installs 22mm not 15 mm from the main to the pressurised vessel.

    • @joekicker9188
      @joekicker9188 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jordan Ackland thanks will do

  • @allanpennington
    @allanpennington 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a pump and separate pressure controller to fit. I noticed though that the cold water coming out of the shower is at a lower pressure than the kitchen tap which is mains pressure. Thus I must have a low pressure mixed for the shower??? The cold pressure is similar to the gravity fed hot water pressure at present at the shower outlet. Thus will I need a different shower mixer if I boost the hot water pressure? The pump will be placed after the temper unit which ensures the hot water supply throughout the house is not over 55 degrees C which is to building code. It may be that there is just a restricter inside the cold input on the shower mixer?? Any advice pls

  • @seychelles44
    @seychelles44 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to get a better hot water flow to bath when it's low pressure/flow rate with a combie system?

  • @steveday6860
    @steveday6860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, given me hope. I'll tell you why.
    I have just installed a new mixer tap in my kitchen, along with a new sink, as it happens. I now have almost zero hot water pressure at the new tap. Everywhere else is fine, bathroom etc.
    I think I know what the problem is...I have an old gravity fed system and this modern tap is designed for a minimum of 1bar. So, I now think to myself...install a pump on the hot water feed. But I need to understand the feasibility of this given that I have a Mira power shower drawing from the hot pipe from the hot tank and from the cold header tank. I will use a plumber to do the work but I need to understand how it will work, as I realize that the Mira shower pump doesn't want hot water 'pumped' into it.
    I just want to know it can be done before a plumber tells me I need a Combi or another type of tap.

    • @MrWad3y
      @MrWad3y 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve what was the outcome? Did you install the pump without harming the shower? Cheers.

    • @steveday6860
      @steveday6860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrWad3y Due to the fact that my boiler was quite an old back boiler. I installed a new combi and changed the shower pump to a combi-compatible pump. I now have pumped hot water from the combi boiler.

    • @MrWad3y
      @MrWad3y 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steveday6860 ah ok, probably a better choice in the end. Thanks for the reply, appreciate it!

  • @danrowe8699
    @danrowe8699 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, just wondering, could that not cause pump over into the f&e? sorry if it is a stupid question.

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No worries mate. It would if you installed it before the feed and f pipe, but the way it's installed here, it's only pushing on the hot and cold taps!

    • @danrowe8699
      @danrowe8699 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      plumberparts ah I get ya. Cheers mate.

  • @avdavies1984
    @avdavies1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did it improve the shower?

  • @bilaalsoobhany7767
    @bilaalsoobhany7767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can i boost a low pressure solar water heater with this system?

  • @scotchegg6422
    @scotchegg6422 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Assuming this will boost all hot water outlets, including a mixer shower?

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, a single CT Force 20 can be used to pump against the mains to hot water outlets including a mixer shower. We do recommend the negative head (universal) variant, depending on flow rates.

    • @scotchegg6422
      @scotchegg6422 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salamander Pumps thanks. Still waiting for @plumberparts to do a full install video.

  • @shanedraper240692
    @shanedraper240692 ปีที่แล้ว

    My issue is my kitchen hot tap is really slow but the bathroom right on the other side of the wall is fine, I traced the hot pipe to the airing cupboard and checked there's so isolation valves turned down. I don't get it

  • @hakimvlogs6579
    @hakimvlogs6579 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t find it on twitter or Instagram, will this work on a combi ? My hot water pressure is terrible I have a 24kw Vaillant it’s probs 10-12 years old or do you think it could be an issue with the mains water coming into my house?

  • @gslightingsoundsandvlogs2911
    @gslightingsoundsandvlogs2911 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this be fitted to a combination open vented hot water cylinder? Cheers

  • @milojanis7376
    @milojanis7376 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for showing how this is done.I have a Victorian house in London with a 3/4 lead pipe cold water feeding two Bosch boilers as the house is in two flats ,the pipe coming in is 3/4 to 15mm that feeds the hole house ,the pressure is ok but it can not deal with both boiler on at the same time or the toilet flushing .the pipe coming in is in the basement but have converted to a cinema room can I fit some type of pump with its own storage tank as I don't think that the pipe can deal with the increase in water flow needed, but it has to be small and not heard pumping away.Thank you for any advice that you can give me as I am no longer using the downstairs .

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Milo The best way to deal with this is like you have
      mentioned, it is fitting a cold water storage tank and using a single negative
      head pump. There are some details to cover so it would be best to call our
      Techincal Team on 0191 5162002 for further information.

  • @dylanwalsh1532
    @dylanwalsh1532 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi can you use this to boost pressure to a shower

  • @christopherpeacher8657
    @christopherpeacher8657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanted to find out how noisey a pump would be in my new home, I am not a plumber so have not had to hear one before this, seems really good, thanks guys for a great video.

  • @The1stCommentsGuy
    @The1stCommentsGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can these be used on an old worchester 240 combi boiler ? Good vid by the way.

    • @armoris66
      @armoris66 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never pump the outlet from a combi mate. However, I believe Salamander (or Stewart Turner) make a boost pump for the inlet to a combi. Therefore if your mains pressure is low you run the main after your stopcock into the pump and is give you a boooost 😨!

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@armoris66 that is right! We have a pump called HomeBoost which is specifically designed to boost the incoming mains to a combi boiler. Plumberparts has also done a video on this - th-cam.com/video/fURajD17BBQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @johnt714
    @johnt714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I am replacing our existing Salamader pumps that have been discontinued. It has a 28psi sticker on it but when I rang Salamander they said that pump was rated 2.6bar. Online conversion says 28psi is basically 2 bar. should i get a 2 bar one or a 3 bar one to replace? The model Salamander suggested is the CT Force 20SU or 30SU. Many thanks in advance.

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      CT Force 30SU is the most similar product to your previously installed pump. Thanks.

  • @emsd2393
    @emsd2393 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just had the guys out to fit one of these today. Thanks for this info I now understand what they did and how it will improve the water pressure for me.

  • @wastelander6341
    @wastelander6341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @plumberparts
    Will this pump feed downstairs and the tap/shower mixer in the bathroom?

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, CT Force is a whole house pump so would be suitable for this use.

  • @amana1480
    @amana1480 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:50 Can the pump be fixed to the floor so it can't be knocked/moved accidentally?

    • @billpalmer2381
      @billpalmer2381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      it can not good idea will transmit sound mount pump on foam ore rubber

    • @billpalmer2381
      @billpalmer2381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      pump location?

  • @MrJcollins95
    @MrJcollins95 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mate, is that a positive head pump ?

  • @thesecretauthor9983
    @thesecretauthor9983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Thanks for making it look simple. I had fear it was huge job. To all Plumbers what should I be looking at to install. Thanks All.

    • @lance39478
      @lance39478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Off video, he skipped a lot of work in a tactical process to hide vital stages that threaten his career. And make the whole work appear simple.

  • @Dean.44
    @Dean.44 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this fantastic video, I have a question please can you install a pump on combi boiler?

    • @UberAlphaSirus
      @UberAlphaSirus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dean Abousaid only to boost you mains presure. If you cold pressure is good, then your boiler is either not working right or isn't powerfull enough to heat the water at the speed you want it. look up its specs to find out its litres per minute hot water rate.

    • @billpalmer2381
      @billpalmer2381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes if supplied by cwsc tank lay mans terms pump must be matched to flow rate of boiler ore as close as possible

    • @billpalmer2381
      @billpalmer2381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      single booster or universal if low head

    • @billpalmer2381
      @billpalmer2381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      or mains pump if tank not available

    • @billpalmer2381
      @billpalmer2381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      depends on installation ect

  • @kevinair7648
    @kevinair7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you run 2 pumps of your hot pipe .ive got a twin pipe one for my shower and need one for my hot tap water can you put 2 on .cheers council kev uk

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, each pump would need its own dedicated feed so this could not be done. However, CT Force is a whole house pump so could be used alone if needed.

  • @bencrow3008
    @bencrow3008 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will this pump used in the video work with mixer taps the pump selector on salamander website says I need positive and negative head. My setup is similar to this video.

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are boosting water to a mixer tap that is used with the mains cold water supply, you will require a single negative head pump, such as CT Force 30SU.

  • @Danny.A665
    @Danny.A665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a danger of the storage tank run dry if demand is high ?

    • @steveg59
      @steveg59 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, this is the same question that I had but noticed that you had not had an answer so wondered how you had got on ? Cheer.

    • @Danny.A665
      @Danny.A665 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steveg59we changed out the gravity fed storage tank/boiler and put in a combi so pump no longer needed.

    • @steveg59
      @steveg59 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, after I asked this question I found that Salamander have produced a "water starvation pump kit" to overcome this tank problem. Not sure how it works but looks ok to do the job.@@Danny.A665

  • @ambivelan
    @ambivelan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I have the exact same setup but when switch on the hot water tap it's starts pumping water into the tank for some reason even though I also get hot water in the tap .

  • @thelastofmykind2124
    @thelastofmykind2124 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it legal to do this in America?

  • @abbeyjahan7295
    @abbeyjahan7295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, can you install this for my property? I have low hot water pressure.

  • @2006ladylala
    @2006ladylala 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this ok to use , I’ve just started to install the aqualisa Midas shower you did a vid for and I’m worried the pressure on the hot will be to low , thank you , hold tight pal

  • @davepowell4489
    @davepowell4489 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone answer this please?
    At the start you said that the Salamander mustn’t have hotter than 65° through it.
    Wouldn’t it be hotter than that going from the hot tank into the inlet on the pump?

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If your stat is set to 65 Degrees then this can fluctuate around to 67-68 degrees, which it will enter the product at higher than 65 degrees. As long as the water does not exceed over 65 on the outlet of the product then this will be fine. Turning down your stat to around 60 degrees will be ok. Thanks

    • @sgt_xs9905
      @sgt_xs9905 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SalamanderPumps But dont worry, any engineer they send, there temp measuring device is set to read at least 69oC whatever the temp to avoid warranty claim and invalidate it. Surprised they not commented on how the incorrect pump has been used for the installation with mixer taps, has this invalidated my warranty! Wrong type of pump, yet engineer states he does not know what pump it should be, wow.

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sgt_xs9905 Hi James, can you let us know your pump serial number and a contact number as our Customer Service Manager would like to look into this for you?

    • @sgt_xs9905
      @sgt_xs9905 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SalamanderPumps CTF30PS957 I dont see how it can help, the opportunity to rectify the faulty pump was given when the engineer came to sort it.

    • @sgt_xs9905
      @sgt_xs9905 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SalamanderPumps Was that serial enough to bring up my details?

  • @andrewsmith9755
    @andrewsmith9755 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I have a baxi combi and my hot and cold water taps cant be used at the same time due to low water pressure coming into the house, could I still use something like this to increase my hot water for my power shower

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Andrew, Unfortunately you could not use one of these type of pumps to pump direct from a combi. You can pump to a combi with one by
      putting a cold water storage tank in the property and then pump from that into
      your combi instead of using the mains feed to it. A Salamander HomeBoost pump may be a better solution to boost your incoming mains water. If you give us a call on 0191 5162002 then we can advise.

  • @johnaustin1825
    @johnaustin1825 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are several models. What is: 30 PS, 30 PT, 30 TU??

  • @davidwilson7579
    @davidwilson7579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What thermostat would I need for a pump it keep burning the neutral wire out

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, we would advise to have a cylinder thermostat or a blending valve fitted. If you contact our Technical team on 0191 516 2002, they can get in touch and help you resolve this issue. Thanks.

  • @okulenkopavlo3073
    @okulenkopavlo3073 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful video. Helped me to find solutions with salamander flange. Thank you.

  • @janethunter8611
    @janethunter8611 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how much are the pumps and rough estimate of installation costs,i really need one of those ,i live in the north (sheffield)

    • @craigwatson7692
      @craigwatson7692 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Late reply to this but the pump in the video is around £170, other fittings including the flange shown will be about £50. Labour varies per plumber but estimate around £100 - 150. Things to consider though is tank size in your loft, if your tank isn't 40+ gallons it will need upgrading or another tank linking to it. Also if you have any mixer showers, a single impeller pump won't be suitable as you'll need to boost the cold water to the shower too. Also the pump shown is a positive head pump, which means it works off a flow switch. Some modern taps (mainly cartridge mixers) can't maintain the flow rate needed to keep the pump continuously pumping, which can cause the pump to pulse (stopping and starting), For this reason I only fit negative head pumps which rely on a pressure switch, they cost more but a much better pump.

  • @ajovjosev
    @ajovjosev 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    For a 4 bedroom house is 2 bar pump is enough?

  • @andrewgreen9938
    @andrewgreen9938 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi would this affect my electric showers as I have been told it my imbalance the water.

    • @SalamanderPumps
      @SalamanderPumps 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Andrew It depends on what is being fed from what to be
      honest. In this instance it would be best to give our technical team a call on
      0191 5162002 so we can get more detail and advise you of the right way to go
      forward.

  • @Mrlistenandlearn
    @Mrlistenandlearn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I am getting hot water in the shower. But kitchen & bathroom sink the water is coming when hot tap turned on but it’s coming out cold/ luke warm -can anyone help with this what is the issue?

  • @davidleaver2167
    @davidleaver2167 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi what model Number is this pump Thanks

  • @davidwebster5217
    @davidwebster5217 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can anyone help me? my pump works great but when I turn my tap off it keeps running the pump on and off! I’m not sure what the problem is