ULTIMATE GUIDE To Latency in Cubase
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
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Tips and tricks to dealing with recording latency in Cubase.
Learn how to maximize your sound cards latency, even at the end of the project with high track count, heavy FX, and multiple Vsti's.
Learn how we deal with it here in a working studio.
00:44 ADJUSTING AUDIO BUFFER SIZE
03:48 DIRECT MONITORING
06:34 DIRECT MONITORING PLUS EFFECTS
11:54 RECORDING GUITAR/BASS
14:03 CONTROLLING DELAY COMPENSATION
18:46 BYPASSING LATENCY WITH HARDWARE
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Had major latency problems for a while in cubase and didn´t really know how to get rid of it, but this video really helped me out! Thanks 🙂
The ultimate guide to latency should cover jitter and midi as well, not just audio.
Amazing and comprehensive overview of options! Thank you so much!
This is the most dedicated video I have seen related to latency!. Thank you for your effort and passion!.
Thanks Luis!
What a great video. It's a real gift to be able to be so complete and yet concise in an explanation Thank you very much for this.
Great explanation of the different options in Cubase to handle latency. Didn't know all of them up to now. Thank you
Wow! This overview and resolution video is amazing! Great job on providing such useful and helpful information.
The best explanation for this subject that I ever hear in years of watching videos about this subject... I just can say thank you so much!
Very good kiind sir! This helped me immensely and solved my issue. Thank you for posting!
Another great video.
Thank you man 😊😊
Thank you sir 👍
I think your video is the most comprehensive about latency issues
The story is in short you need to understand the cause of latency and how to management your DAW / audio interface Asio driver / plug-in / VSTi / Hardware in the best way possible.
Brilliant video. Creating a playlist called DAW Masterpieces and adding this one to it. I have a mixer and an audio interface and have not got my head around using them together yet. It’s time to start doing that.
Intro 💥💯🔥
Thank you ...
Awesome video..I just ran into this on one of my first projects that pushed latency over the top. Delay compensation seems to work for me in Cubase. But I did not know about it and could not understand why my midi keyboard suddenly had so much latency.
Im glad you found it helpful. Trying to cover a more in-depth MIDI video in the near future.
Great video, I use a combination of system to achieve low latency, I have one interface for Cubase set at 2048 samples to play back the entire project (80 plus tracks) without glitches, I plug my guitar to one of the inputs and then from insert out (or direct box) into another interface (not related to Cubase) with 96 samples, I assign my guitar fx software to that interface to hear all my guitar effects. Everything I record is dry and completely in time while I hear exactly what the guitar should sound like. Then of course I assign that same guitar fx instrument as insert instrument on that recorded track.
Great Idea!
Lol. The intro.....love it
Just a little request.. can i sample that AAAAHHHH. At the intro of your video.😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 love it
Delay compensation button... why isn't it standard visible. This was a game changer info! Thank you very much.
Great video! It would be great to see a follow up video of smaller digital mixers for home recording studios (even throw some larger ones in there for people with more of a budget). I’ve been looking at the Presonus Mixers or the Zoom Live Trak to help record multiple instruments at once. But, looking for recommendations. Keep up the good work! 👍🏻
Thanks Scott, great suggestion. We've got a Presonus 3S2C here at the Studio and have been trying to get some time to do some videos on it but wasn't sure if there was an audience for it.
@@Featherlightstudio I would love to see more videos on using presonus mixers, and audio interfaces, as well as daw control surfaces.
@@WarrenPostma great suggestion
Thank you very much for this comprehensive video. Did you mention freezing audio tracks as a method to reduce latencies? If not - why?
14:03 although its mentioned, this video focuses on lesser known solutions, after you've tried the obvious stuff like freezing, ect. in hopes of giving you a more options throughout the recording process.
Excellent! What more can I say ? :)
Also Bouncing in place imprinting plugins into audio tracks and then disabling original track drops latency drastically.
Great suggestion!
Thanks! I'm gonna try out the tip of mixing my direct monitored signal from Scarlett 4i4 with some Cubase "Sends" in PRE-fader position with the vocal track fader turned all the way down! QUESTION: I'm assuming however that with this method, any time we want to listen back to what we recorded, we are going to have to move the fader back up? And also, if we were doing punch ins, this method would likely not work since the signal would be turned down, correct?
Heh Alain, Yes, when you listen back, you have the benefit of all the regular FX on the track, you just need to bring the fader back up to hear them. This method still works when you 'punch in' as long as the yellow 'monitor speaker icon' is engaged as Cubase is still processing live audio. So the process goes like this with the fader down: Engage monitor icon and punch in.
Disengage monitor icon and raise fader to playback. It becomes second nature after you do it a bunch.
Great info! I just notice this in cubase and it's driving me crazy. When have a plugin comp eq etc... on lets say my kick drum insert channel uad la2a for example I notice the meter is delayed from the kick hits the same thing on fabfilter pro q eq 3 and the others. If I activate Constrain Delay the meters plugin work perfect but it also disengages other plugins like on my master channel inserts for example fabfilter pro L2. So when it comes to mixing I'm totally lost now since I discovered this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Cubase pro 12 mac m1 uad x6
I have noticed a few holdover bugs from previous versions that are not fixed for M1 silicon like the VST tuner spiking the CPU meter. And the older VST's like the DeEsser shows the gain reduction with the system Latency (behind the beat)
Way back in the day, this used to be a graphics card issue but not with modern systems.
Might be a great question for Greg Ondo over at the Cubase weekly live stream?
Thanks I will follow up w/ Greg I had to create a new Cubase project and import all my tracks from the latency project into the new project and it works perfect.🤔 Very frustrating to have to start my mix over. At least I still have my song. Thanks again, @@Featherlightstudio
Glad you finally got it sorted!@@billymack4258
I see on most videos on YT people have very similar input and output latency. Why I have input 2.7ms and output around 8ms ???
Its easy, buy a RME and/or a UAD Audio PCI Card or Interface. Recording done.
In my experience, Keyboard/VSTI tracking latency can be easily avoided by always tracking with a basic VSTi routed directly to Stereo Out. After I'm happy with the performance I'll then route to the appropriate groups, choose the best VSTi/settings and apply inserts. You can even use a dedicated track for this and move your events after tracking them. Simply disabling inserts will NOT usually work; the mere existence of something like a multiband compressor on a major bus will clog up your VSTi for some reason (in Cubase 11 Pro at least). I think the Constrain Delay Compensation probably would address this scenario if you set it low enough.
Heh Steven, Thats kinda of the point of the 'constrain compensation' feature. It automatically determines the FX in not just the Vsti, but also downstream busses, Groups and Master FX that are incurring latency. It powers them off, not just disables the inserts their on, as bypassing inserts still creates the latency problem.
Great suggestion about the dedicated track.
@@Featherlightstudio I'm used to working on kind of underpowered hardware so I'm usually trying to find ways to get past those limitations. I like having a dedicated track for recording new MIDI performances on a big project because you can quickly record some notes without diving into any settings and it will work even on an older version or non-pro version that might not have "constrain compensation".
I find cubase groove agent to be the biggest pain... ill give the compensation a try ..☝
Assuming that most of people (specially pop, electronic, rap/trap) will work at 44.100/24bit or 48.000/24bit, between 128/512 buffer size, "producing/mixing on the flow". What are the best options of audio interfaces in terms of RTL (round trip latency) on those values?
This is a great resource for real world latency results: gearspace.com/board/showpost.php?p=15796206&postcount=5092
I see that even on a MAC the PEAK indicator jumps and is very high even with a small project.... In Cubase Pro 11 nothing like this occurs....
yeah, my version of 11 was very solid as well, hope the new updates get it sorted.
@@Featherlightstudio The sad thing is that 3 updates have already come out and changed nothing about this issue, which is why I'm still using version 11 despite the fact that I bought 12 as it came out.
While the buffer settings are obvious and always my first thing to check, there is this damn little button in the main window - ⚠that often even needs to be activated⚠ - called "constrain delay compensation" ("Verzögerungsausgleich einschränken" in German) that is so hard to find & keep this trap in mind while it has a massive hearable effect regarding the latency!!
The video goes into detail about constrain delay compensation here at this point: 15:20
Do u find you have to run at a low buffer in your DAW to actually capture your midi performance input even if you play on time? I not talking about audio latency. You can have hard ware synths go to a mixer for that. But I play a midi controller in my daw to trigger them. Im also not talking about timing issues of your midi playing out to hardware synths. I’m talking about playing midi in your daw and when it records the notes. Do you find it captures them better in time with lower buffer?
Definitely, anything that strains the CPU is going to affect that. Thats why, at the end of a project when I have a lot going on, and I have to record more parts, I always shut down VST's and even temporarily freeze VSTi's if needed.
@@Featherlightstudio awesome information sir. Do you happen to know if Protools has a similar constrain delay compensation?
@@undercrownhiphop9422 I dont have the latest subscription version of PT to compare, maybe some one else can chime in here on that one?
@@undercrownhiphop9422 In your Pro Tools session if you click on the little notepad icon at the bottom left corner of the mixer, it will open the mixer options and you can enable the delay compensation checkbox. You can also go to 'View' / 'Mix Window Views' and enable / disable it there as well.
What about track freezing. Doesnt thatreduce latency ?
14:03 although its mentioned, this video focuses on lesser known solutions, after you've tried the obvious stuff like freezing, ect. in hopes of giving you a more options throughout the recording process.
Just before 13:57. NO YOU CANNOT GET A DRY SIGNAL INTO THE RECORDER IN THIS WAY because the DI box is connected AFTER the pedals: Jump up and down all day but you ain't going to get any dry signal whilst the DI is AFTER the pedals. No matter what you do you will still hear those pedals full on both from the parallel out AND the mic output of the box. Please correct this because you are confusing everybody.
That's the point of the second method...to 'include' the sound of the pedals with the dry signal ( meaning no amplifier ) sorry for the confusion. The first method shows how to get a re-amp signal chain that prints the direct out from the guitar with no pedals or amps. The idea is to pick the method that best suits your recording style.
If you want to change 'everything' after recording, then Method one.
If you want the character of your 'pedal setup' included in the recording, then Method two.
Hm, this is actually not a problem with a fast computer and a RME interface, you will be able to get below hearable latency.
that intro 🤣👍
I've never experienced latency like I have in Cubase 12. 32gb ram on a 12th gen i7 with a motu interface and 3 vst's starts to break up, even at 512. Asio guard spikes like crazy. I went to Studio One 5 and it stopped.
The newest 12.0.40 version is out, might be worth a try to see if it improves a bit.
I've used both on and off for a long time and found Cubase to be overall more stable and use about half as much CPU as Studio One and less crashing.
If you want the most stable setup money can buy, use RME interface or pcie card (can use any actual converters you want) via MADI. And use Reaper.
This is not what I use, but is 100% the most stable solution available on the market, and will work on any OS.
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The latency to the information I'm after is toooooo loooonnnnggg in this video.... 1:40 - Just Sayin.
Wasted four days learning cubase 11 only to record tracks with horrible latency issues what a waste of time
Cubase sucks so bad. I can't stand it anymore
Cubase itself is a big a.. latency. They should quit and retire the program already. It has been 100 years, and you are still talking about latency in Cubase crap.
Man, you clearly don't know how to use Cubase. All latency can be dropped down.
Every program ( FL Studio, Logic, PT, Ableton Live, Reaper, Cubase, ect ) if it runs on a computer, incurs latency.
@@perkunas7 listen you fool, I have used cubase 1.0 in Atari starting in 1989, then for Macintosh. But when Apple bought Emagic and turned to Logic, Cubase was history, and of course Ableton Live killed it. This is year 2022, and this dude is talking about latency, plus showing cheap ass sound cards is lame. This why cubase is in coma, the latency.
@@Featherlightstudio I run Logic Pro on a 2017 mac book air with tons of channels, plugins and vsts, I have never dealt with any latency. By the way, you should figure how people not interested in cubase by the views of video, you have 6000 plus subcribers but this video has seen 600 plus views. Nobody is interested in Cubase. Even the owner sold it to Pinnacle systems in 2003, and then they sold it to Yamaha 2004 one year later. Cubase is history my friend. Don’t waste your energy with latency crap.
Latency depends on your computer power and how are you using the Daw. I am happy with Cubase and I don't see a reason to switch to other Daw. If you ever used Cubase you should know that in Cubase you can bounce in place tracks to audio and then disable original instrument tracks so Daw is not wasting Processor resources for playing instruments or using plugins. When using instruments you can switch buffer size to 2000 so you get basically 0 latency. When you want to record audio bounce in place all tracks to audio and disable original tracks set buffer size to 64. If you want some effects use cards DSP or record dry. And that gives you 0 latency too. Then you add processing to vocals after recording and do bounce in place if needed and then again you get nearly 0 latency. That's it. And there is no cubase fault but people who doesn't know how to use it.