Intel i7-14700k Undervolting & Tuning Guide in XTU - Benchmarks
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- The 14700k is a beast of a CPU, but out of the box it runs at high voltages unnecessarily, by tweaking it by using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU) we can lower temps and power consumption while still maximizing single/multi core performance, I hope this guide will help you in Under volting and get the most out of your new CPU!
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🔥 System Specs:
Motherboard : ASRock Z790 PG
CPU: Intel i7-14700K
GPU: Intel ARC 770 LE
CPU Cooler: EK Nucleus D-rgb 240mm
RAM: Kingston Fury Renegade Rgb DDR5 32GB 7200MHz
SSD: Kingston Renegade P4 M.2 1TB
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1350W
OS: WINDOWS 11
00:00 : - Intro
00:38 : - Getting started with XTU
00:55 : - A tour over XTU
03:24 : - Thing to know before
04:32 : - The Tuning begins!
08:00 : - Things I didn't change in XTU
08:45 : - Applying Changes
09:04 : - Important to know in Load Line Calibration
09:52 : - Other things to know
10:26 : - Cinebench R23
10:40 : - Cinebench R23 RESULTS
10:53 : - AIDA64
11:32 : - AIDA64 RESULTS
11:36 : - OCCT
12:35 : - OCCT RESULTS
12:40 : - Ycruncher
12:59 : - Ycruncher RESULTS
13:06 : - Temps & Clocks
14:05 : - Correcting shown values in HWINFO
14:54 : - Borderlands 3 BENCHMARK
16:33 : - Cyberpunk 2077 BENCHMARK
17:38 : - Horizon Zero Dawn BENCHMARK
20:32 : - All Boxes Checked!
20:43 : - My CPU Silicon Quality
21:10 : - Outro
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If you want to reduce temps even further. you can lower Core ratio and that eventually lets you under volt it even further, I wanted to not lose the default multi core Ratio 5.5GHz and that's the least possible for my silicon, curious to know your results and if you need any help don't hesitate to write here.
You can download My XTU profile here: drive.google.com/file/d/1NVzINp6gch9XfuRfmISr0aOKwArGwwef/view?usp=sharing
Tips that may help changing microcode 104 : www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/10b9p6w/undervolting_on_b760/
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Hey is it safe to use ur results fpr my 13700k either ? not like importing ur profile but following ur steps in video to undervolt my 13700k . atm i just tested -100mV on all cores with -70mV on the fastest ones but didnt chaned anything else yet.
@@disturebd I think you can increase the fast cores ratio for a better single core performance
Are u getting good temps with ur current settings ?
They're safe to try
@@TECHOSAUR yeah i also have a profile for that cause the one i told u is just for powersaving like if i play LoL where now performance is needet thats the best and my temps after 10 min cinebench r23 are on 85°C max. On the other one i have just -70 mV on all cores but having + 100mhZ all core and did a single / dual core boost to 5,7 Ghz. Where Temps reach 90°C in Cinebench 92°C in Summer.
ok so i Try some of Ur settings aswell. I want to get to Know more about undervolting overall.
Little sidequestion my freind has a ASUS Rog z790-H Gaming Wifi with a 14700k There XTU dont work with the saving settings tro next resatrt feature and in bios is no " corevoltage offset setting " more like voltage offset bound to a specific clock, do i have to use i differnt offset for every clock or could i just use like -100mV on every step ?. atm -105mV is max i could use on his XTU (tested with AIDA,Cinebench, yChruncher and OCCT for 1h each) and is there a difference between the offset in bios to the ofset if i use xTU ? Thanks for ur replys :)
Does ur profile seen in this video work for an i9 14900k?@@TECHOSAUR
The 14900k has better headroom for undervolting and clock ratio; this profile done for 14700k, but it may work
Brilliant guide, thanks for making it!
Fantastic advice, makes the 14900K much more power efficient while sacrificing little performance!
thank you for the video. My out of the box temps with intel settings were just all over the place, cpu fans blasting randomly just doing nothing and games being all over the place, these settings settled them down nicely while maintaining about the same performance.
Thank you for tuning in 🙏
I'm honored
Thank you amazing video! This motherboard is on my list to get.
A really well-priced one for all it packs, totally a good recommendation after using it for over 6 months
@@TECHOSAUR i really want it but the next gen will come out in 5 months, they promise 20% better performannce but im not sure if they will deliver and if its even worth to wait that long
Great Video! Just a question, as you had set LLC, you would also set DC/AC_LL. If both are well define I supuse they don’t interfere with the OC made by XTU, right?
I keep IA AC/DC on auto
Because it will interfere with the way it's calculating power limits, it instantly caused instability on mine if make any change on them
Very good video 👍 Thanks.
Thanks for the video! Are you in windows 10 or 11? I find it much more difficult to disable all services (virtualization, etc) on 11. Thanks
I'm on Windows 11
You can disable intel virtualization in bios. That's how I do it
But if u prefer win 10, it's possible to do those tweaks in the same manner
My friend need this guide!! thank you techosaur
Happy to help!
Could you repeat this tutorial but for the 13600k? I know you’ve already made a tutorial for UV in bios, but as most bioses are different a XTU tutorial would be preferred.
But thanks for your quality videos and hard work!
I would like one for the 14600k. I would guess the 13600K would be the same, and thus a 13600k tutorial would work for the 14600k?
Also, would this 14700k tutorial work for the 14600k and the 13600k? Ty, good video.
No, no, no and no
Hi from Australia, you mentioned in your presentation you'd export your profile and leave it in the description but I can't see it? Thanks, Peter
Sorry, please check the pinned comment. It's there!
@@TECHOSAUR... thanks I found it.
Hi, I've been using your profile but I run into BSOD issues. I have a I7-14700K, DeepCool AK620, and an MSI PRO-P WIFI mobo. I have also changed the LL to Mode 4 (Max mode is 8). What should I do?
Try with level 5 which should have less vdroop; otherwise, increase the voltage a bit until it's stable, or you could reduce the ratio and undervolt it, depending on what you prefer.
Thanks for the guide, I followed your steps with my 14700k and MSI PRO Z790-P Motherboard. I have a H115I CPU cooler but for some reason when running all of these benchmarks I am hitting 90 degrees + very quickly, eg. 1 or 2 minutes in to the testing. Do you have any idea why? I tried to re-apply thermal paste (ARCTIC MX-6) but it didn't really help. Ambient temperature in my room is about 20-25 degrees.
Do you have enough case ventilation? And do you have your case fans oriented in the right position to ensure optimal airflow?
If you believe so, I think your only choice is to lower the voltage even further, and if it doesn't work with the set clocks, just reduce the ratio until you balance thermals and performance.
@@TECHOSAUR Yes I believe so, I have the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv, it's a bit older but has great flow. I have the radiator front mounted pulling air in, and then top and back fans extracting air.
@@ithinkv also it can be bented socket. try to remove it and apply new contact frame
Wow. Incredible its nearly 20c cooler at times.
Thank you for this! Could you share with us your Cinebench 24 multi and single core scores?
I'll try to post it ASAP
I was starting to get blue screens and after stopping intel extreme utility it seems to have resolved it.
Ive reseated my 420mm Arctic Freezer III AIO twice and my 14700k is still able to reaches 87C at stock levels LOL. No idea how this is possible considering you have a much smaller cooler.
Hopefully your config helps.
EDIT:
Your config made a huge difference in the XTU benchmark wattage/temperatures, bringing me down to around 213w at 75C. Using OCCT however is a different story, still drawing the full 255w whilst sitting at a max temp of 94C on the SSE test. (with a 420mm cooler mind you haha)
Cinebench sits around 95c/255w as well.
Try to reduce the AVX ratio to make it consume less power. OCCT AVX workloads are quite stressful, and lowering the ratio is crucial to prevent overheating.
I have the 14700kf since a month and I cannot even run a cpu stress test with default settings, I've tested 2 watercoolings and same thing, I will get thermal throttling I was thinking about undervolting it or maybe do a rma, but I think that it's not normal that is runs hot and hits 100c on stress test -.0 I should do a rma right?
It's like this for everyone, intel cpus have very high voltages by default, your only way is under volting, everyone should do it because it will thermal throttle as soon as u run anything heavy on it
I have a dumb question i moved from 10700k to 14700k but then im not getting the fps that im suppose to get infact im getting lower fps then my 10700k. My ssd i didnt do a fresh format. Should i have done that?
What cooling setup do you have? Did you check if your new CPU is thermal throttling? You probably need to undervolt it to see the real benefit over your 10700k. These CPUs run hot by factory settings and undervolting is important even if you are using a custom water loop.
Is it better to set these values in BIOS? I noticed Intel Extreme Utility needs to be manually loaded on startup and sometimes the profile needs to be manually activated by saying show values and then apply.
it's good to set them in BIOS, i think XTU has a good use when you are trying to understand limits and values, and once you are satisfied you can port them to BIOS for a definite application, i do that, but XTU is good when you like to switch between different settings on the fly, it's undoubtedly saved me lot of time knowing what to adjust,
Hey Techosaur
I'm trying to follow your guide and I'm having a ton of difficulty and crashing a lot. I'm using a asus prime -a z790 mobo. Followed your setting but doing a -85v offset and crashes. Any advice? I'm desperate.
Did you change the load line calibration level in bios ? I suggest trying level 4 usually it gives good stability while not overheating
@@TECHOSAUR I did! Level 4 of 8 on my mobo. I fiddled around with it more and the best I can do is -95 offset and only 56 and 55 ratio on the cores. I really wish I could get a higher boost. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Spent a few hours and I feel like I'm getting nowhere.
Me too. Can you solve it ?
Hello,
My VMware virtual machines require Intel Virtualization Technology, and probably benefit from VT-d. Disabling VT is not feasible for me.
I have a 14700K CPU on a Z790 mobo,
Enabling under-volting seems to upset XTU - it says
"Intel XTU is unable to start due to incompatibility with VBS unless your system has undervolt protection enabled."
But I just now disabled it as per your video. I seem to be at an impasse.
Please advise.
You can still undervolt it through the BIOS, as undervolting with XTU will require disabling the virtualization settings to be able to tune voltages negatively.
But your only option if you use a VM would be to undervolt it strictly in the BIOS.
Please tell me your motherboard model; if I'm familiar with it, I can tell you how to proceed with it.
@@TECHOSAUR Thanks for helping.
I have an Asrock Z790 Taichi Lite.
Based on your reply, I'll ignore XTU and work only within the BIOS. Following your guide is stimulating.
I easily see where undervolting can be switched on/off.
Just for fun it's my goal to have a higher Cinebench R23 score than stock, which is currently 33,300-33,700 at temp 95-100C.
The quality of my 14700K (a metric your video taught me) is just a ittle better than yours.
I can temporarily have all P's @ 57, and all E's @ 44, but soon the ratios reduce due to my 100C temp limit.
Brother first of all thnx for such a detailed video over XTU... Will be a lot of help for newbies and intermediate guys as well but still what I personally found that leaving Iccmax to unlimited was feeding a lot of unhealthy Amps which was making the system in turn unstable so I manually set it to 380amps minding intel guidelines for Intel's vcc core performance config..... Would be helpful if you shed some light into the same thnx...👍
Thanks for the tip!!
will try to revisit this and include it, I plan to make video about intel guidelines, thanks again
Ty!
Hi, I have a copied all the steps but keep blue screening when i benchmark or stress test
ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI II
32gb ram ddr5
i7-14700k
4080 gpu
And I’m on XMP ii
Load line number 2 in between 1-3
Plz help
do you have any AI features enabled in your BIOS? i know that ASUS has tons of them and they would interfere with manual changes
make sure to disable any AI auto option
if that didn't work, try to shift the voltage offset by 5
each CPU unit has its sweet spot and it can also depend on other BIOS settings you have
I have artic liquid freezer iii 320 aio and a Liam li 216 case with 14700 and 3090 core 4-5 are fastest but core 5 thermal throttle. it get to 100 c preety fast while other cores are at 85 c what should I do . Great video . If room is cool it’s fine ..
your cooling setup is better than mine, i got 240mm EK-NUCLEUS, you can easily have them lower
whats your motherboard ? if its ASROCK you can follow this other guide to do in bios if you prefer
th-cam.com/video/IWU-L1kChzg/w-d-xo.html
that's the only motherboard I have so thats why its the only one with bios settings video too
but otherwise you may also follow this method in XTU and it could work on all systems even with different motherboards, its a universal intel tool
do you recommend translating the XTU settings to the bios? or just let xtu handle it
In my bios core and cache offset is combined but in xtu when u set a core voltage offset the cache voltage is untouched. In xtu i set -0,085 and in my bios i had to set it to -0,04.
If it's working fine on XTU you can keep it and it should auto adjust on windows setup if you activate that option, it's a really light tool so it doesn't consume much resources and you can set different profiles per app or hotkey , it can get so versatile !
But if u prefer using it to understand how to tune ur cpu and then once you get all parameters right, you can then copy them to bios and it should work the same way as it did in XTU
Thank you for this detailed and informative video. Could you please make a video of 14900k with ASUS MB? Very less video for 14900k undervolting videos for the same. Thanks in advance.
I'll try when I get an asus board, thanks
@@TECHOSAUR looking forward for it 😃
Thanks for the video! I have a a 14700kf, 32gb 6000mhz and a asrock z790 pro rs, I did the the tutorial but i keep getting a blue screen, do you know how can I fix it?
Try adjusting the load line calibration level. You can find that setting in your motherboard BIOS menu. You need to set the middle level, just like I did. For example, mine has five levels, and for me, the sweet spot is level three, where I get a minimum temperature increase but good stability, it's very crucial step to maintain voltage since ar are undervolting, auto setting is usually the lowest
@@TECHOSAUR it is level 3, sometimes it won’t crash immediately, but if I open any game/app it will give me a blue screen or automatically restart the pc
Hello. I can't apply the flag on Restore after reboot (3.05) and unfortunately trying to update the drivers nothing has changed. I have an Asus Z790-E Gaming WiFi II and I9-14900K, how can I solve the problem, have you found a solution?
Maybe you need to apply the settings first, then check that window to see if that option is available. Or, try reinstalling XTU. It's also possible that your Windows account isn't an administrator account, which could prevent XTU from applying the settings in the Windows scheduler
@@TECHOSAUR Hello, I have already tried all of the above and the problem remains. I also reinstalled XTU as an administrator and forced it to always boot as an administrator, it doesn't let me put the FLAG on that entry. It's a problem that a lot of people have with both Asus and MSI
Hi I have a z790 aorus master how do I put these values in the bios thanks if you can help me
I don't have an Aorus board, if you can connect on discord and send screen shots, I hope to help better there
Server link: discord.com/invite/PXmJY6BP8b
Hi ! Is there any chance to disable undervolt protrction on Asrock B760 steel legend
Check the 104 microcode article on Reddit:
www.reddit.com?
I personally never tried it, but I know some who got it working.
Hi, i just bought my pc wth specs:
i7 14700K
Prime Z790-P Wifi
RTX 4070 Ti Super
DDR5 6000mhz 16x2
But when i try to test Cinebench R23 i just got Multicore 28000pts & Singlecore 2100pts, is this normal?
After Cinebench R23 test i check HWINFO and i got throttiling say "Yes" & so many 80 - 90c temps on core temperatures.
That’s terrible
My stress tests keep failing and I can’t figure out why I’ve sat here adjusting the volts for the past 30 min. Followed your settings, Any idea?
Which test is failing ?
None of them passed?
You can try to increase the voltage offset to like -150
Or try with all p cores at 5.5ghz
In BIOS which load line calibration do u have?
In mine if I set it to level 4 or 5 it's not stable ,
From level 3 it's working fine
It's very important to adjust the load line calibration otherwise it may not be a voltage issue but the vdrop causing the system to not be stable
@@TECHOSAUR Thank you for the reply and the awesome videos you have been making brother
Cinebench is crashing even on -0.040 offset, is there anything I can do to get better undervolting? mobo is asus z790-Plus
Check to see if you have any AI features enabled in the BIOS and deactivate all of them, as they will interfere with any manual changes you make.
That likely explains why even small decrements aren't stable.
Also, make sure to set the load line calibration level to level 4 on your Asus board. There are 8 levels, so choose the middle one.
Thank you I'll try it out ! subbed@@TECHOSAUR
Hello, what bios i should get for asus b760-g d4 wifi, is z690 ok?
You shouldn't install a different chipset BIOS than the one made for yours. You can visit your motherboard's suppoet page and download the latest version uploaded, which should be the optimal one
Import your settings and when I apply I get error in xtu performannce core 10 temp cutoff error performance core 10 ratio offset unknow
If u can upload a screenshot and link here
Great video! I want to make changes to my processor like you although I'm a little afraid that something will happen....
In any case, my 360 AIO is not enough to cool the 14700k (very hot playing).
I have thought about lowering ratio 54x or less.
And lower the voltage as in the video, -0,165. I don't mind losing a little power, I'm looking to have good temperatures.
ROG STRIX Z790-F GAMING WIFI motherboard.
Do you advise me to make these changes? any more changes?
Thank you.
First of all you don't need to worry at all as it's totally safe to under volt, in fact it's even more healthy for the CPU longevity
I think ur 360mm AIO could easily cool it than my 240mm used in this video
It also surprised me that my cooler is able to handle it under every load without any issue Now, it's amazing how Intel CPUs can handle under volting, it's like a total whole different experience post tweaking
My first suggestion is that you set high standards, always aim for the the highest possible clocks that are able to run stable at a temp range of 80-90c max under heaviest workload
On mine I could go as low as 70c on 53 ratio but then I would feel that I actually paid for higher clocks and want to make the use of that so I feel the urge to raise clocks as much as possible with decent temps
Also the 2 fast cores can handle higher ratio so you can increase them for higher single core performance
In my opinion, based on ur cooling setup there's a good potential in optimizing ur 14700k, you can easily get decent clocks at max 80c, all u need is finding the sweet spot of voltage to ratio, I just shared the technique I know but each one could have different experience
Also choosing the right load line calibration level plays a crucial role, I advise choosing the middle one you have on ur board to balance stability and thermals, I think on Asus boards it's level 5
Please feel free to give a follow-up on how it's going if you are attempting to tune it and we can go on with it 👍
@@TECHOSAUR
I'm going to do what you said! thank you very much for your answer. If it is true that it makes no sense to lower the processor frequencies, you pay to have the maximum. But seeing it at 90 or even peaks of 100 degrees in some cores, worries me...
If it is true that I play at 1440p with a 4070ti and the processor should be with less load, and not work much cpu. But still, it's hot.
So far I've gone down to 5.2ghz stable and it's going better, with max power limit between 250w and 255w.
To lower volts it doesn't let me, I have to enable or disable some option on my motherboard before, right? I guess it's the over voltage protection option. I have to deactivate it maybe, true?
Hello I need help for undervolting my 14700k when I put all your settings it's getting crash always..
what motherboard do you have?
you also need to check that you have for load line calibration at least the middle-level set, because by default the auto option is set as the lowest one with the biggest vdrop and that causes instability with further under volting, you need to raise the load line calibration level to maintain voltage better, for example, my ASRock board has 5 levels for load line calibration setting, my sweet spot is 3, always choose the middle-way, you can find this setting in motherboard bios, for example i did it on mine min 09:04
@@TECHOSAUR Hey ! I have z790h asus rog strix i have calibrated it on level 4 because there are 7 levels on my motherboard not like u
Thanks! But I can't find "undervolt protection" on gigabyte aorus motherboard. Have you any idea?
Is it Z Or B chipset?
@@TECHOSAUR z790
@@TECHOSAUR finally finded it
@@petruchio00700 in which section if you can share ? perhaps others reading your comment might be in need as well, thanks! 🙂
@@TECHOSAUR go to Tweaker -> Advanced CPU settings -> Under Voltage Protection
Hello, i have a Problem with my Pc
I buy for 1 week new pc
I9 14900k
4080 super
32gb ram 6000mhz
1000watt power
In benchmark crash up over 100 degrees . And if i play a game 5min later crash only game
I must set in 220watt power. Then is ok.
Can any help me thanks
You need to undervolt it. All the latest Intel CPUs overheat out of the box. They're set to a very high voltage that causes over 100 degrees.
Install XTU and try to follow some of this guide to undervolt your 14900k.
What's your motherboard? Perhaps you can undervolt it there too.
Hello, do you know how to disable undervolt protection in a mb Asus b760? I can’t find the option and almost every option in xtu software is locked, I can’t do any changes :/
Yes i talked about this from 3:25 to 4:34
Well basically you would need to change the microcode 104, that's what I know for b chipset motherboards, i also linked a reddit post that may help you on how to change it, only z boards can have it straight ahead working
@@TECHOSAURthank u so much, I successfully undervolted my 14700KF by setting at -0.180 and I had a huge temperature drop, I also did the test on cinebench and I got 29,669 pts in multicore. I saw that you got 35,878 if you know a way to improve it even more with b760 mb I would be grateful, thx so much 👍🏻
I have b760 plus wifi and have changed the microcode and still cant undervolt only system agent undervolt comes enabled
@@makebittencourt8912 that’s weird, my exact model is b760f gaming wifi, which bios version are u running?
Very Nice. thanks.
I cant open my xtu... persist messenge to check virtualization, under. protect, etc
Did you disable under volt protection ?
Настройки с видео 4:36 у меня заблокированы в разделе Core... Я не понимаю, что сделать, ибо оно все почти серым
did you run the app in administrator privilege, sometimes lack of admin access may limit the app, also do you see a yellow bolt icon or you disabled under volt protection in BIOS?
what CPU and motherboard do you run ? as some OEM PCs may have them disabled
consider installing previous version of XTU, sometimes it may work
Hello my brother, thank you for video! So, i have the same processor that you have i7-14700k, but because of i dont understand anything in PC bedore, i bought motherboard MSI MAG B760M MORTAR MAX WIFI. And i cant off the undervolt protection. I saw that you've pinned some guides, but i cant understand anything in that... Sorry, that im taking time from you
I wish my processor was as stable as yours, but I don't know what to do yet. in my stress tests, it beats at 100 Celsius in a couple of seconds. Although my cooling system is three-section at 300 tdp
But in BIOS do u have voltage offset ? U don't need to explicitly under volt in XTU, U can do it in ur MSI bios too, there should be voltage settings somewhere
Thanks for your help about get the best performance for 14700k.
But I tried import the profile and XTU indicated that Incompatible Values is Core Voltage Offset -165,0 mV.
I have MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk MAX WIFI and TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan DDR5 6000 MHz CL 38-38-38-78
Check that under volt protection isn't enabled on ur system otherwise you can't under volt it, also Intel virtualization and VT-D should be off in my bios settings
Check part 3:30
If u have that yellow thunderbolt symbol you can't import my voltage offset
@@TECHOSAUR Undervolt Protection, Intel Virtualization and VT-d are OFF on MSI BIOS of my motherboard. In fact, XTU app not working if not disabled these "technologies".
It's not appears the yellow thunderbolt symbol and my pc shutdown a little time after applied the profile :(
I have a question about the energy, is important the Active Power Plan in Windows? I have "Balanced" profile.
The XTU version app is 7.14.0.15
Thanks and Regards from Spain.
@@Mr_Raymon i have your exact hardware and same problems! u managed to solve?
@@p_p Unfortunately, no :(
I tried various Core Voltage Offset values but I only got blue screens.
Hello, After a blue screen I had to reset my bios and now the program does not open, it stays loading in the logo, I already uninstalled and installed it several times until I deleted the files and profiles but it remains the same.
Perhaps you need to remove its files in app data and temp. Check also program data in the C drive. In view, check the "unhide" items to see those folders.
@@TECHOSAUR I did it until I downloaded a program to delete the data from the Windows registry and it's still the same.
@daniel12603 Hmm, that's weird. I think I remember it happened to me once, after uninstalling XTU, you will still find an XTU folder in the C drive program files, so delete it and reinstall again. I remember that's what I did to fix the stuck logo screen.
Hey i have questions i have b760 msi it’s work too on me motherboard ?😊
Check microcode 104 post on Reddit
www.reddit.com?
I never tried it personally, but I know people thet got it under volted on b760
Hi, Bro. I have an i7-13700K and an MSI board and it's much easier there and I get about -10°C. I still have the same POWER, I set unlimited. Nice work, but this is not something a normal person would come up with :-) How did you figure it out? :-)) 😀😀😀 Thx.
I do a lot of testing approximately a week of extensive trials and errors to find the best config at least for my CPU unit, motherboard and cooling setup
Every system could get a different result but I was just sharing my experience with mine and the process I followed exactly
I'm still using those configs and it's really much cooler now, I love Intel CPUs for their big headroom to under volt 👍
@@TECHOSAUR I also like the Intel i7-14700K. I'll rethink if it's worth replacing when I have an i7-13700K that's also pretty good. I'm using a cheap cooler, and the telots are about 70°C in games with undervolting. But a lot of people are badmouthing Intel... I also have and RYZEN 7800x3D and it's +- the same for gaming.
Sadly, I followed this guide and my benchmark ran hotter, with slower P&E core max Frequency and lower points, along with power limit throttling. I'll check everything over again to make sure I didn't miss anything but I don't think I did. Edit, I get lower scores on Cinebench 2024 After downloading your profile I see there is a change in System Agent Voltage which seems to improve my scores a bit, Was that not in the video or did I just not see it? can anyone answer this for me please?
System memory agent frequency pertains to the memory, not the CPU core. It aids in tightening memory timings, which determine how tight the timings are that you can boot and stabilize. It helps with CPU uncore components
hi there would this be possible with an intel ultra 7 155H ?
Unfortunately I don't have any device with an Intel ultra CPU, otherwise I would have done a guide about it separately, this one is for Intel 14700k desktop
But if ur CPU is unlocked for under volting then it's worth trying tunning it on XTU by using some techniques here, I just haven't got any to test on myself 😔
Is it mandatory to disable virtualization and vt-d?
I use docker so I need it.
if you don't turn them off, you may get that yellow lighting bolt symbol preventing you from under volting at all, if you dont get it with them ON then its not mandatory
@@TECHOSAUR I have basically the same config as yours.
Asrock Z790 PG lightning + 14700kf + 16x4 corsair 6400mhz.
Could you help me pass these XTU configs directly to the BIOS?
@LucasSousaRosa try this another guide where I did them in bios, same asrock motherboard:
th-cam.com/video/IWU-L1kChzg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4TbHpcYOGtsPCu1r
Hope it helps
Hi, can you help me? I have the same motherboard and cpu, but my memory is 6000mhz (Kingston Fury Beast, RGB, 32GB (2x16GB), 6000MHz, DDR5, CL36, Branco - KF560C36BWEAK2-32) and i received this error on cinebench when apply your profile...
And when i have applied your profile, i received this warning message on intel:
Can you help-me?
I replied in discord sorry for the delay 🙏
Is it safe to change microcode to 104 on Asus B660 motherboard?
I've never done it honestly but I think it's safe and u should always be able to set it back to default
Very good video but it would have been good to show people what to set in y cruncher you skipped that part lol
Thanks!
I run the component stress tester, so when u open Y-cruncher you press options in this order :
1 - Components Stress Tester
7 - Enable all
0 - Start
@@TECHOSAUR thanks
I've got an i7 14700KF with a Asus TUF Z790 Plus Wifi and attempting to use you're profile.
But apon trying apply the profile I'm notified Watchdog timer is unavailable at this point.
So I can't move forward with testing.
Anyone else getting this?
Apparently it's a known issue with Asus Z790 boards and XTU
What's my best course of action now.
Some info from the Asus forum topic on the issue: ASUS uses the Watchdog timer on XMP to ensure system sustainability, hence it will limit IXTU from using WDT. If there's any room for manoeuvre on this I'll update the post. (02/07/2024)
Sorry I'm not using an asus board so I don't know about this, if I learn something I'll update you
Hi, I tried these settings with Load Line Calibration 3 but either Benchmark crashes or Stress Test fails.
CPU: i7 14700kf
GPU: Zotac 4080 OC
Mobo: Asrock Nova z790
Memory: Corsair 64gb @ 6400
I moved Load Line Calibration to 2 and it's stable, but temps increase back to ~90c
What should I begin to calibrate to keep load line @ 3 and improve stability?
You could lower clock ratios or increase voltage, since increasing load line calibration to a higher level will make it much hotter, and it's obviously not worth it, making the whole process pointless.
If you lower clocks even by one ratio, you will get so much headroom for lowering voltages, which will all reflect in lower temps.
It's only ideal to use the balanced LLC to get good stability with reasonable thermals
Used Level 4 LLC on a Asus z790-h. CPU 38c in games!
🤩
Why undervolting gives better performance? I dont understand, higher frequencies mean higher performance, no?
But we didn't compromise on frequency as well. I pushed all clocks while boosting the two fast cores to a higher frequency, all while undervolting. However, when you have a lower temperature, you will get consistently good performance, and that will reflect in the final score. While initially, with stock settings, it may boost higher, as soon as it thermally throttles, it will downclock itself hard. Still, voltages will be high to begin with, and it will never recover. With lower voltage, you will give it headroom to boost and stay consistently, offering optimum performance.
@@TECHOSAUR i see, its now about 20 years that i didnt had a desktop, i used laptops but i felt the need for a powerful PC so im building one. Till now i got the Thermaltake Divider 370 case, Deepcool PX1000G ATX 3.0 PSU, Asus Z790 Prime A WIFI motherboard, i9 13900k processor and a Thermalright contact frame, 2x16 G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000mt/s CL32 memory, 980 Pro SSD.
Today i will receive the Deepcool LT720 AIO cooler and i will be able to start the PC and test it for stability and try to tweak it. I will buy the GPU sometime later cause no money left for now, i gathered all the components in a few months and i was hunting for good deals.
I will try to understand and learn more about undervolting, and can you recommend some torture test softwares for RAM memory and CPU. From what i read for RAM would be good MemTest86, for CPU Prime95 and OCCT? Thanks a lot!
Intel XTU ¿valores de fabrica?
desculpe, não entendi, o que você quer dizer com valores de fábrica XTU? você quer dizer como redefinir os valores de volta à fábrica?
Do a video Bios vs XTU.
Same settings to see diferences
Okay ! Thanks for the suggestion 👍
@@TECHOSAUR maybe bios perfor better
Hi for me impossible to pass the -0.100 offset, with an msi Z790 a pro and a 4080, with u same settings.
Which Load line calibration level did u set in bios ? In MSI board there should be 8 modes , you can try option 4
Also what's ur CPU cooler ?
@@TECHOSAUR I have calibration 8 option I am at 4 and I have an artic freeze II 360
@@TECHOSAUR I can't adjust my high temperature help me please😭
I`m getting cpu power throttled, shou I increase the watts?
Defending on what ur cooling can take, what's ur current Power limits?
You can either choose to lower ratio and this way you avoid getting power throttled or increase power limit and that may cause higher temps
For Asus mobo it seems impossible to enable watchdog so no way to keep settings after a reboot.
I would be glad if anybody have a solution to this (probably intended) issue.
I'm not familiar with watchdog
What's that ?
@@TECHOSAUR Watchdog timers are used to monitor complex systems and maintain the reliability of a system. In XTU it is needed to detect a crash so to not apply the settings at reboot. Check at the bottom of the system tab of xtu. Problem is, it seems Asus disabled the loading of teh watchdog driver purposely. Why ? My guess is they don't want a software doing what their expensive mobos do, but for free. I dont' see any other explanation.
Anyway, XTU on Asus mobos won't reapply settings automatically at boot as watchdog driver isn't loaded. Shame ASUS...
@@davidg.1387 that sucks. I wanted to undervolt with xtu but I found out it can't be done with asus mobo... even though I have watchdog timer driver installed.
@@DarthCapybara Indeed. You still can do it but you will have to reapply your profile each time. I ended doing this in the bios as before.
didnt work for me. Applied all and run the stress test and failed. Then I run Cinebench R23, failed and return all the numbers to default.
Try to troubleshoot by checking whether it's stable at a lower ratio. The silicon quality may be different
ciao posso eseguire le modifiche per un Socket gigabyte B760 aorus elite ax rev 1 ddr5 - Thermalright FN240 BLACK ARGB Raffreddamento ad acqua CPU, 240 - i7 14700k
Devi assicurarti che l'undervolting sia abilitato. Di solito le schede con B Chipset non supportano l'undervolting a meno che non cambi i microcode 104. Ecco alcuni post su reddit su come farlo e quindi aprire le funzionalità di undervolting da eseguire su XTU.
www.reddit.com/r/intel/s/QX1EtB8XEh
www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/s/1Z874SlNzB
@@TECHOSAUR Ciao e buona sera e grazie di avermi risposto leggendo nelle caratteristiche della mia scheda madre dice CPU uCode 0x104 (la versione obsoleta di uCode porta a problemi di sicurezza del processore non risolti, utilizza a tuo rischio e pericolo) dovrei passare a ucode per modificare il microcode ? cosa puo succedere ?
Của tôi bị khởi động lại và nó tự reset bios 😢
I am curious to know your cyberpunk profile?
you mean in XTU or game settings ?
@@TECHOSAURin xtu
@@denvernaicker8250 it was just for demo, i never made any specific profile 😂
but if i were to make one for gaming specifically, i think i would raise the p cores clocks, especially the 2 fast cores even with an increased voltage since in gaming it run less hot than in heavier workloads so there's a room for increasing voltage and clocks, but i just felt that the one default preset was just too good for all purpose like low temps, decent clocks, maybe because after spending a whole week doing it i felt lazy 😆
Thank You TECHOSAUR! very good guide. helped me, i have bought a new pc, one weak ago.
i7 14700k
4080
Gigabyte aorus elite z790
patriot viper 64gb 6400 ddr cl32
and thanks to u i got 90-93 C, but my clocks drop from 5.5 to 5.2 what can i do to fix that? Load calibration level high (middle of the line)
and maybe u can help me to with xmp profile, my ddr5 give xmp throbleshot in stock xmp profiles. i try to use profiles 1,2,3 and all of them gave to me instability in aida tests.
so i dropped my xmp1 profie from 6400 to 6000, and now its works, but i'm sad that i can use a full power of this ram..
and in games sometimes, as i have something like a micro lags .. very sad about that, what can i do? in XTU p-core are 5.6 rest 5.5, all e-cores 4.4 , core voltage offset -0.150, turbo boost power max 280 W, turbo boost short power max 300W, couse i have arctic frezeer II 360 , power supply bequiet! PURE POWER 12M 1000W ATX 3.0 Power options in high performance.
Make sure to download the chipset driver from your motherboard page, it's very important for windows to recognize your CPU and this greatly helps in fixing micro stuttering issues
It's normal that sometimes XMP profile aren't stable, I also had similar experience and just reducing memory speed from 7200 to 7000 made it stable but also it's good that in this way u can manually tighten the memory timings like just a bit since we reduced speed a bit, just for copium 😆
It worked for me stable when I reduced the cas timings like at least 1 each
Let me know if installing the chipset driver fixed ur stuttering problems, install all of them like Intel management engine and latest BIOS etc
I downloaded all drivers from Gigabyte Center app after instalation win. but i can try from site, about xmp, i have good timings in xmp3 , i can choose xmp3 and reduce from 6000 to 5600, will be good?@@TECHOSAUR
will be the same on gaming x ax motherboard?
Z790 GAMING X AX ?
XTU is a universal tool and could work on all manufacturers boards
damn, sadly any slight undervolt (even -0.035) gets my cinebench to crash.. I managed to get 36.5k on multicore 23.2 but I can't undervolt by any means. Maybe its bad silicon luck or below-average motherboard (z790 maxsun icraft). Oh well, it's still performing great. Thanks for the video.
Mine is also on the budget side: ASRock Z790 PG Sonic, which costs about $230.
Make sure that you have the BIOS updated and the chipset drivers installed
in your video you say to disable undervolt protection, but the xtu programme won't open unless its enabled, literally pops up saying it won't open without it enabled. another thing this programme is pretty useless if you have to do these settings everytime because the watchdog feature isn't available to asus users anymore since january 2024.
It's strange that it never displayed for me the message to enable undervolt protection. I just tried it now with the latest version of XTU, and undervolt protection was off.
@@TECHOSAUR just tried it again, until i turn undervolt protection on it just gives me and error saying it can't open the programme while its off :(
What's ur motherboard?
Can you please do this for 13700k .
I wish I could, but I have limited access to components. Trust me, though, the 14700k is very similar to the 13700k, except for core numbers of efficiency from 8 to 12. Also, higher clock potential on the 14700k. Aside from that, if you follow this guide, I think it will help with under volting the 13700k as well. If you are having a problem, please let me know. I can try to help!
Still crashing. Same everything.
Setup
Asus dark hero z790
7200ddr5
4090
Do you have Asus AI features turned on? They might interfere. Also, set load line calibration to level 4 for your motherboard.
Crazy you consistently shave off 15-20 watt and still get better performance.
Yes, Intel CPUs can be very efficient, they're just poorly adjusted out of the box, but with just some adjustments you can get awesome performance and thermals
I apply all steps and giving me blue screen. after that rebooting with optimized default.
Edit: I have z790 aero g motherboard
Pair with:
64gb 6000mhz trident Z
360 aio Nzxt kraken rgb
Msi gaming z trio 3060ti
Okay did you change the load line calibration level ? It shouldn't be on auto with this config
Try to select the middle level found in ur motherboard
If that didn't work try to reduce the voltage offset by -5
Keep doing that until it's stable or you can check whether you need to reduce clock ratios, but I would suggest you first to try the load line Calibration middle level
I tried -5 and medium in calibration i get same blue screen
@@karlfrancisco8981 do you get BSOD immediately or after running a specific workload ?
perhaps lowering the AVX2 ratio could help if its an AVX specific
All running. But in my case it did not reaching max pcore 5.8ghz
Good fucking Job.
Thanks 🙏
@@TECHOSAUR im stressing the cpu with ur profile and it reaches around 86c max im thinking about reseating my AIO but it is stable after 5h of stress test in aida64
@@J4ckKun good news!
86c is quite awesome, if you upgrade your CPU frame I'm sure it will get below 80c, I'm using the original one but others quite found it to make better contact with the cooler block
@@TECHOSAUR in gaming i dont even exceed 75c wich is great! :D
i can't do minus offset just plus?
There is an “undervolt protection” setting in your motherboards bios. It only allows undervolting in the bios and not in the system os. You probably need to disable it in the bios.
@@Norman34O1not only it does it
Disable Intel Virtualization
Disable Undervolt Protection
Disable Core Protection in windows
In case you have MSI bios I had to Disable Intel VT-D
Disable Intel Virtualization Technology
Disable Undervolt Protection
To get this to under volt the tab the settings were in is Advanced CPU Configuration and you Access it by using F7 and clicking OC Menu
XTU says it won't start unless you enable undervolt protection in BIOS.
What's ur motherboard?
I also disabled the under volt protection
Check 3:24 on how I did it on my asrock
@@TECHOSAUR I have a MSI Z790 with a late 2022 BIOS. I can find nowhere "underclock protection", and neither anywhere help on the internet. Maybe i need to update my BIOS, but i don't want to take that risk. I just settled on BIOS undervolting, setting the core voltage to offset, -0.100. Core clocks to auto and core wattage to unlimited. That provided me a good enough temperature reduction and speed increase i can live with.
why disbale the virtualization ?
Because undervolting in XTU gets blocked if you have Intel Virtualization Technology as well as VT-d and undervolt protection turned ON in BIOS.
I tried it with it enabled, and undervolt in XTU has this sign ⚡️, limiting it only to increase but not decrease voltage. Also, on the ASUS board, it's like this.
@@TECHOSAUR interesting, XTU on my gigabyte z790 aorus elite AX is all good to go with Virtualization on. didn't check the VT-d (it was off by default)
Computer restarted itself after the first "apply" Dx. I think my cpu is dying.
did you change anything in BIOS such as the Load Line Calibration level ? it's important when under volting to have at least a balanced current level the usual factory AUTO selection for LLC is the lowest and it has the biggest vdrop. since we undervolting, so it will not be stable, its crucial to set at least the moderate level for LLC found in voltages section in BIOS for VRM, for example, my motherboard has 5 levels and choosing level 3 is the best as in this case it won't get hot and still be stable, please tell me your motherboard type and whether if you have other settings applied in BIOS
@@TECHOSAUR I sent this in discord too if youd rather talk there. Ive got z7900-a d5 2-32gb ddr5 vengeance 6400mt/s slotted in a2 and b2 and a 14700kf. IM having much more issues than just trying to undervolt. Found your video in an attempt to possibly find a fix to my problem. ive reinstalled windows countless times and ran every test and scan known to man. some apps wont install most have trouble opening even if i do get them installed and i constantly get random BSODS if i try to do ANYTHING that puts a load on my computer. occt bsods. ixtu bsods. starting a game give me a backlit black screen. and this all started from discord not wanting to stay open. would randomly close and i got tired of it so figured it was time to upgrade some stuff and start fresh. I bought the z790-a the ddr5 ram and swapped the psu i had in there for one from a previous build.(its better) 750w(basic psu) to 850 G5 gold evga. i changed the load line calibration and
it actually made a difference. i was able to get into windows for the first time with xmp1 enabled. i just dont really know where to go from here. its how i stunbled upon your video in the first place. just looking for a miracle fix. lmao
i did the same setting on xtu but it keeps restarting my pc
i tried downloading you xtu profile. but cannot import file , did not meet expected format might be corrupted.
Can u tell me whether u changed in BIOS load line calibration? ,
@@TECHOSAURno its on auto. I got 14700k on msi z790i board
@@romiejohnbanares1184 that's probably why it's not working, there are 8 modes for ur board right ?
@@TECHOSAUR yes 8 modes. so what should i choose?
Igors Lab compare few couple 14700k and compared to their test your 14700k is above average.
I check your settings on z690 asus prime ddr4 and with llc4 -0.165 is too much. I decrase to -0.1 and it is stable I will check lower values.
EDIT.
-0.1 this is max for my combo motherboard and CPU.
Yes also mine global offset is -0.1 but In BIOS I use the V/F curve instead
Look here th-cam.com/video/IWU-L1kChzg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=tJSbcFT-ixkP_0SL
Min 5:10
So I tried bios under volt and XTU and in both it works fine on mine even though it doesn't have high silicon quality according to my motherboard CPU indicator
@@TECHOSAUR
Did you use combo settings from two movie? I through you use default bios with changed LLC only.
@@queven369 I didn't combine settings between this one and the previous, I started with All auto except for XMP profile and LLC to level 3, Also under volt protection to disabled, just the essentials shown here
But I was saying that I tried 2 approaches, here in XTU and before in BIOS, also in my motherboard BIOS you can't shift the global voltage offset less than -0.100 but with the v/f curve you can go as low as -0.500
@@TECHOSAUR
Thanks for answer. Oh -0.5 it is big offset. I did not try v/f curve setting (I have no time to testing :() I checked only offset in bios -0.07 on llc3 or -0.1 on llc4. Also testing your XTU settings and also -0.1 but better temps.
I did everything great i have aorus z790 elite and i7 14700kf and i got blue screen
Check ur load line calibration settings, did u change it ?
@@TECHOSAUR. I changed it to high
@@TECHOSAUR. High is the middle in my bord
Check if it's working now
@@TECHOSAUR i just tested it rn and my pc went off to rest changes
my game started crashing after this oc :( 14700kf, 4080super, asus z690 prime d4 wi fi
What did you set ?
@@TECHOSAUR i copied your XTU settings in my XTU. Im playing cs2. it never crashed, but it crashed 2times after i used your XTU settings. by the way - temp improved alot, like -10c.
for bios freeze windows 11 xD that guide
U need to adjust bios settings before this too, change load line calibration before under volting
@@TECHOSAUR bios i set all but cinebench work 5100 no sense XDD standard settings i have 35500
Is it back to the Ally now? Lol
Yes and much more! 🙂
@@TECHOSAUR I can’t wait to see what you’ve been cooking up, 👀👀👀
unistall xtu better bios settings for games
everytime i try this i bsod.
What's your motherboard and did you change the load line calibration settings in bios?
I have , my mother board is z790I aorus ultra.
ok load line set to High which is the middle option, i can run a game of fortnite ,but cannot run more than a minute of OCCT. BSOD after 50secs@@TECHOSAUR
with current intel guideline default power limit. you will lose 25% of your performance. wow.. this is from 7 MAY 2024
with manual changes, it's much better than their guidelines because They're just limiting clocks and PL, making it power limited. What's done here is different. identify our fast cores and raise clock for single-core performance since those cores require less voltage per frequency, then we set the rest of cores to a lower clock usually 200-300MHz less than fast one, then undervolt to avoid compromising performance while of course altering power limits depending on the cooling system. For an AIO 240mm like mine, I can set PL1 to 250 and PL2 to 255, but anyway, by undervolting, it doesn't even need that much power since we reduced the voltage. Of course, stability is a factor to consider, so it requires some patience to make sure you have it all right.
Mine isn't consuming more than 235w under heavy load in OCCT small data and temps are not exceeding ~80c
And even my case has 2 140mm intake fans and aio fans exhaust on top being 120mm and another exhaust back fan that is 120mm
So 5 fans + pump are able to tame it
very bad english, cant understand anything
I think -0.165 might be too much. My PC shutdown 😂.
since we are not increasing the multi-core clock higher it is possible to under volt it, try with different Load line calibration levels, I chose the medium level and it tends to give me the best stability while not overheating
its an important step to change the LLC because AUTO option will not handle it
mine has from level 1-5 and i use 3
Hm.. I'll have a look and see. What does LLC do if its 1 vs 5? I was able to get a stable undervolt at -0.090V. Would love to bring it even lower.@@TECHOSAUR