Love the series!!! I don't mind mistakes...you're human and you can't know it all. Tell the trolls to pound sand!! I love see the comparisons apples to apples as much as one can!!! Keep it up!!
I’ve had 2 good friends who bought Mahindra tractors in the 40 to 60 hp range and both had issues with them. This made me steer clear from them. Maybe the quality has gotten better in the last several years. I sold my large frame 2nd gen Deere and got a CK Kioti and honestly knock on wood it’s been great and outshines the Deere in just about every other way. Great video Brock.
@@offermanfamily4953 No, it just means that some of us want to spend our money wisely so we look at known issues and do some research and try to make the best judgemental call with the information we have. If I'm going to spend thousands of dollars on an object, I at least want to know that (in theory) it will hold up over time.
hey brock i have a mahindra 5145 brought new from AL. Have 215 hours on it in about a year, i have only had one issue the shifter cable broke. Love the tractor for the money. i use it mainly for clearing land, tilling and using the woodland mills stump grinder
I got a 1626 several months ago and absolutely love it. I shopped around and nothing in a similar size could lift as much and the 1626 was at least $20k less than anything else near me.
I was a fully trained and certified dealership diesel tech from 2003 to 2011. No DPF or regen does make that tractor simpler. Common rail injection still means a complicated computer controlled fuel injection system with a very expensive fuel pump and sensitive to fuel quality.
I loved my 2320 deere and dealer. I treaded it in on a mahindra 2638 last July. The first 70 hrs have been good. I have a front axle seal leak, which I replaced both on my deere. The dealer covered it and was a 1 day job. So far, the weight, power and lift capacity have been great. It's an awesome machine. Will all come down to parts and service long term. I do most my own work as I am a diesel tech by trade.
Mahindra looks to be based on "old school"simplicity.Also a lot of Massey ferguson tractors are built in India using technology from the 60's.Heavy,simple,with minimal bells.Work horses.
I would agree with that comment other than the fact it has a computer controlled fuel injection. They don’t really have a choice, but to do something we don’t like in that category. It’s either common rail fuel or the DPF filter.
With the exception of the TYM with the (former) Kukje engine, I think all the engines in this size machine are common rail direct fuel injection. There’s a lot of controls and sensors on it for it to work, but it is supposedly more efficient/cleaner running. I’m not exactly sure how Mahindra gets away without a DPF unless they run really hot with EGR or something. I like the simplicity of mechanical fuel injection like the TYM (or my 1981 Ford 1700), but it’s becoming obsolete with all the modern electronics and sensors and emissions regs. Then again, maybe I like mechanical fuel injection because I understand how it works. The engine runs until you shut the fuel off!
Thanks for the review. Looking at the different models and manufacturers; all of them are only as good as the local dealer providing options and service.
Brock, I really like this series. You do a great job of pointing out the features and lift capacities of different brands. Thanks for bringing us along .
Glad to hear it. I’ve got about three more of these and then all I’ve covered the whole lineup. One of them is going to be an extended demo on my property
Howdy Brock! I've been pretty happy with my little Mahindra. Just one issue with the front axle that was my fault not Mahindra's. I addressed it in one of my very first videos. When I'm ready to go bigger it probably won't be Mahindra just because 1) The dealership I bought it from is gone, so not sure how far I would have to go for any service work. 2) No cab in that 50hp range. If I'm going to stay in this cold climate, I want a damn cab! Nicely done and thanks for sharing 🤠
Massey Ferguson 2800 tractors go up to 60.8 HP and offer hydrostatic transmissions and climate control cabs. Alot of other features also. The older 1700 and 1800 series did as well. Enjoy the reviews and comparisons.
Really appreciate the time you take to do these comparison videos. I would like to move up the same size/hp in the future. It would be cool if they let you put them to work. Love my green machine.
If thats a true power reverser. With no clutch use, thats a nice advantage in my book. Finding them in smaller tractors is not an easy task. But then im massively against hydrostatic setups, so im definitely more in favor of manual transmission setups. Haveing 12 speeds in a smaller tractor is a plus over the usual 8 speed shuttle setup. . The PTO lever is probably a rare case, of not using any electrical equipment for its engagement. . Its also nice to see the 540E mode, in a tractor thats sub 75hp . The black lever on the right side is probably the remote hydraulics on rear.
I’m really liking this tractor series!! I learn something I didn’t know about every tractor that you showcase. 👍👍🔥🔥. Looking for ward to the next tractors to review!
It’s my understanding that Mahindra has a dpf filter but it is set up to burn over 300 degrees at all times the other manufacturers do not run the exhaust as hot thus needing a regen cycle that super heats the dpf to clean it Mahindra always in a clean cycle other brands run short high temp regens necessary to clean the filter but both do have the dpf just using different methods to purge them clean. That is a nice looking tractor definitely built a little heavier than the compact tractors the other brands build
I have a 5145 Mahindra and am very happy with it. I am looking forward to the 1126 sub compact. BTW, you are wrong, as others have said, about the levers on the right. The lever closest to the fender controls the auxiliary hydraulics rear remote. The other lever controls the three point lift. It has adjustable stops on the lever frame to set the height or lower position.
4540 Mahindra would have been a good one to look at. When i bought my Mahindra max24, I priced a 4540 4wd with loader and it was 18k and some change. But that was back 2016 or 17.
Mahindra was one of my biggest mistakes. The local dealer who sold it stopped selling and servicing Mahindra shortly after. Of course the engine blew with normal use, but I can’t find anyone to work on it. It hasn’t retained its value, but parted out, it’s more valuable than purchase price, so maybe others are having difficulty servicing theirs as well.
I test drove the 2638. The loader was jerky . I'm 6'1" and the leg room was very limited. I could feel my legs being torced back into my hip sockets. Probably a decent tractor for shorter users but the TYM was vastly a better tractor with 1000 pounds more fel capacity, roomier floorboard, smooth loader, and the tractor weighs more.
As a man that doesn't know shit about tractors and 3/4s of an acre , I enjoyed the video...... I don't need a tractor but would like one to scrap some goat heads and drive to maverick for an 18 pack of Busch light.....
I believe that tractor has a EGR valve and cooler and a pile of electronics. I’ll stick with my TYM for the simplicity and DPF, with over 200 hr on mine I have never had a regin.
Brock, thank you. I honestly forgot about Mahindra. I need to go by and look at their lower hp line and see what they have to offer. That thing does look heavy
Thanks for the comparison. I currently own a Mahindra 5555 4x4 op station. Love it used it for vegetable production in Oklahoma. Had 0 problems and I bought it with 66hrs on it. So basically a used tractor. I went through the same motion u are currently going through by comparing tractors. And I finally bought the Mahindra. Have a couple of dealers in my area and it's simple to work on. Verry strong and light on fuel. Having said that, it is currently up for sale, as I quit farming and no longer need it. I am looking at skidsteers just to do general maintenance on farm land. What should your preference be on that, and why.
Look into Branson tractors. All 4x4 and all of them come with a bucket and a drag box. Not sure on the regen but they're nearly half of a similar sized Kubota.
I have a Mahindra 4530 that i bought in 2013 . It is about 45 hp. I think the loader is rated about 2950. The tractor with loader weights around i think 7200 lbs if i remember right. These tractors are built heavy and are wori horses. The 30 series is a bare bones simple no frills machine . I have had no issues with it yet . My tractor does stay inside when not in use and is very well maintained. Would i buy another Mahindra? Probably not just because of the dealer network. My dealer closed up , not sure why . They were only about a half hour away . Now i have to go an hour to o next closest dealer not a big deal but just don't get that same fuzzy feeling as my original dealer. Anyway just my 2 cents. I enjoying this series of videos and I think your doing a good job on comparing the different brands.
We really need to plug all these numbers into a spreadsheet. Now I'm starting to consider replacing my L4701HST with something a cab, better lift capacity, and a little more PTO horsepower. My gut reaction is the TYM, but it like every other tractor, it's not perfect. There may be a better value out there, and the TYM may or may not have something that makes it a deal breaker.
Not from what I can find tym was started in 1951 just after the korean war. part of rebuilding after the war with usa help $$$$$ just like with japan after ww11 part of the rebuild effort and both are our allies and host several us military bases and employee thousands of americans
Maybe it's just me, but in 20 years as a mechanic I've never experienced a diesel ECM break. It is not a big issue. I think I would remember that because it would be so unique. Injectors is not too uncommon to break on common rail systems because of the very high pressure and bad quality fuel, a very bad combo. Occasional high pressure pumps break too because of this. But they undoubtedly have more electrical issues due to all the sensors needed.
That said I do have a no thrills 36 hp pre chamber injection engine in my own compact. It works. Not as well as a common rail engine, but good enough. I would need to be very desperate indeed to buy a tractor with any exhaust treatment system.
Uses a DOC just like the new 5 series Deeres, new holland etc. there is no free lunch, these are essentially always in regen 24/7. A guy on TH-cam much smarter than me says the dpf method is best for longevity, he says DOC recycle abrasive exhaust back into the motor.
I believe that Kubota, Yanmar, and LS all use common rail fuel systems but include DEF filters. TYM 574 uses a mechanical fuel system system and only uses electronics to monitor when the DEF needs to be regend.
I would consider this Mahindra tractor to be compared with the John Deere 5000 series or the Kubota M series Tractors. When I farmed all our tractors had a mechanical lever to engage the pto, just not that long.
Mahindra makes a good tractor. Looked at them when shopping for a cabbed tractor after living with open station tractors for too many years in a cold northern climate with hot humid summers. Mahindra tractors are crazy-LOUD inside the cab and seemed like more vibration compared to others (maybe the noise made it seem like more vibration 🤷♀). If you are looking for a quiet, peaceful experience inside a cab, Mahindra is not it. Plan on wearing hearing protection and forget the radio. Not a huge deal if you are good with something like a 3M Worktunes bluetooth device.
I asked the dealership what 50 to 60 hp hydrostat they had and he made it sound like they didn’t make any. I guess he was talking about only what was on his lot
This comment is a bit out of context regarding comparison of the new 45-70hp tractors being looked at here, but what I would give for a simple functional workhorse of a tractor with a 3 or 4 cylinder Detroit Diesel. I'm sorry, but tractors, in the big scheme of the multitude of vehicles on the road and off road worldwide, do not contribute any measurable particulate pollution, assuming particulates are the true boon to humanity's existence. Common Rail, DEF, DPF...blah blah blah BS.
I did the exact same comparisons as you are doing. I settled on the TYM 5835. Mahindra engine was super loud and rough running. I ran a comparable New Holland at the same dealership, and it was incredibly smooth but lots of plastic that looked like it would dry rot in no time. I’ve also heard from several folks that Mahindra is notorious for not being able to get parts. After I sat in the operator station of the TYM 5835, I was sold. I’m 6’2” and had tons of leg room. Only thing is, it doesn’t come in a cab version yet. I also like the idea of the 3pt lift using external cylinders for easier service if anything ever went wrong, you wouldn’t have to take the top off the tractor.
That has been true, although the bobcat reps told me that they are starting to make them their selves. Massive Tractor production factory recently built.
Mahindra uses much larger cubic inch engines with lower RPMs to get the same horsepower. Example the engines for a 55 HP Mahindra is probably the same cubic inch of a 85 HP or HP of the other brands.
Yanmar used to make the John Deere tractors, but they don’t anymore Yanmar designs, engineers, and build their tractors from the ground up. They have a lot of innovative features.
Seemed like the dealer was telling me they didn’t make a tractor that size with a hydrostat. I guess they were telling me what they had in stock. Thanks for sharing
Dumb question maybe. Of all the trackers you've looked at, will the attachments you have work on any of them or do you have to start over buying new ones.
All modern tractors have common rall fuel injection. The Mahindras have a doc ( diesel oxujashin cadulist ) those things are always burning off the emissions and how it does that is it rots the dirty air back into the engine that is not good for engines. I would not want to a tractor that is braving in bad dirty emissions to meet the requirements
I sold my kubota and am looking hard at Bad Boy or Yanmar.. I have a Mahindra dealer 5 minutes from my house but ive heard way too many bad reviews on their longevity.. When the weld on a Mahindra bucket breaks, thats a huge red flag for me..
Google tractors with mechanical fuel injection. also a ch. called UTS has a vidjas called KUKJE VS EVERYBODY ELSE. also Kubota has a mech fuel inj in the b2650. that's too small for you but KU-BOATER does have one. not sure why just one
Mahindra is probably just as good as a john deere especially since most jd's are made in india or Mexico kubota is a solid tractor but to me the pedals are terrible and the jd is nothing but plastic
It still takes DEF right just doesnt do a REGEN due to the common rail injection, right? Sounds like you won't be able to get a Mahindra with cab for what you're looking to do hey?
@@stephenmcatee2104 the question about the DEF was referring to 100 hp skid steer reviewed in yesterday‘s video. Basically required on anything over 75 hp.
There is a Mahindra dealer in the town close to me,and I have looked at that exact tractor.I like the beefiness of it,and the all metal construction.I priced it last year at 36k.Im looking f a workhorse of a tractor to do most jobs around my place and it will get used a lot.I will also,in the future,buy one with cab at about double the HP,but for now,I'm looking for something that will be a solid,hard working tractor.I love Deere but ruled them out for this size,and I want to go to a Massey dealer and check out their stuff.So for now,my three way pick is Massey,Mahindra and TYM,not in order.
I’m not an expert on anything and I don’t try to be My information provided in this video came from conversation with the dealership, followed up with a conversation with an engineer that I know who diesel emissions components I would like you to educate and the other viewers on the things that I said that were incorrect
@RockhillfarmYT alright, to clarify. Anything that's over 25hp these days is gonna be common rail no matter who makes it, otherwise it would be physically impossible to perform a regen cycle which requires fuel to either be chucked in on the exhaust stroke of 1 or 2 cylinders or requires a doser injector for fuel downstream in the exhaust pipe. The reason that Mahindra isn't using a particulate filter is I'm presuming they can tune the engine to meet particulate caps in-cylinder with some timing adjustments and probably a doc which is just a catalytic converter. Now all these engines are most likely gonna have a cooled egr circuit to keep combustion temps down and displace the excess oxygen that's taken in which will mostly solve the NOx emissions which is usually in a conflict with keeping particulate matter emissions down as well. Now when you get into SCR systems which use exhaust fluid, that's a completely independent system that introduces the urea compound downstream of the engine into the exhaust system and that chemical reaction will destroy the NOx molecules and turn them into nitrogen gas. This system is only used on engines above 75hp and the beauty of it, is that it does not negatively affect anything in the engine like the other 2 devices, except it's viewed negatively because i guess putting a gallon of fluid in from time to time is too much for people
@wizard_of_poz4413 great, now you’re adding to a conversation that will be read by others and possibly providing valuable information. What I’m attempting to do is provide value to someone who shopping for a tractor by explaining the important part of this that is relevant to them. In this case, what is important to the buyer to understand and maybe they didn’t already know is that this is one of the only tractors over 25 hp that you can get does not have a DPF filter. If I messed up a terminology or didn’t perfectly explain. It doesn’t take away from the information. The most important thing I’ve learned here is that this is an electronically controlled fuel injection that is supposed to deliver a more precise amount of fuel whereas TYM kukje engine is mechanical On the TM Tractor, if it has to regen, you have to park it for that regen. But in a majority of TYM owners say that their tractors essentially never do a regen I think this is the information people care about while Tractor shopping Here’s a great video that talks about the difference between the Mahindra engine and kukje engine th-cam.com/video/pLgTFXknP3o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UWukIe4x3bKmTjdz
Here’s a great video that talks about the difference between the Mahindra engine and kukje engine th-cam.com/video/pLgTFXknP3o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UWukIe4x3bKmTjdz
@RockhillfarmYT right and I want to point out anytime I see anyone who's trying to spread information that's not as accurate as they can present it whether by intent or not because either way it damages the whole commons by spreading a ton of really irritating superstition and bs and that's the last thing we need when we're under pressure from regulatory and commercial entities who want to get rid of engines altogether and switch us to battery everything
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Love the series!!! I don't mind mistakes...you're human and you can't know it all. Tell the trolls to pound sand!! I love see the comparisons apples to apples as much as one can!!! Keep it up!!
I’ve had 2 good friends who bought Mahindra tractors in the 40 to 60 hp range and both had issues with them. This made me steer clear from them. Maybe the quality has gotten better in the last several years. I sold my large frame 2nd gen Deere and got a CK Kioti and honestly knock on wood it’s been great and outshines the Deere in just about every other way. Great video Brock.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Based on that logic.....you wouldn't use a any brand of anything
@@offermanfamily4953 No, it just means that some of us want to spend our money wisely so we look at known issues and do some research and try to make the best judgemental call with the information we have. If I'm going to spend thousands of dollars on an object, I at least want to know that (in theory) it will hold up over time.
@Lilfarmrboy again based off your logic, you wouldn't own any vehicle
hey brock i have a mahindra 5145 brought new from AL. Have 215 hours on it in about a year, i have only had one issue the shifter cable broke. Love the tractor for the money. i use it mainly for clearing land, tilling and using the woodland mills stump grinder
I got a 1626 several months ago and absolutely love it. I shopped around and nothing in a similar size could lift as much and the 1626 was at least $20k less than anything else near me.
I was a fully trained and certified dealership diesel tech from 2003 to 2011. No DPF or regen does make that tractor simpler. Common rail injection still means a complicated computer controlled fuel injection system with a very expensive fuel pump and sensitive to fuel quality.
I loved my 2320 deere and dealer. I treaded it in on a mahindra 2638 last July. The first 70 hrs have been good. I have a front axle seal leak, which I replaced both on my deere. The dealer covered it and was a 1 day job. So far, the weight, power and lift capacity have been great. It's an awesome machine. Will all come down to parts and service long term. I do most my own work as I am a diesel tech by trade.
Mahindra looks to be based on "old school"simplicity.Also a lot of Massey ferguson tractors are built in India using technology from the 60's.Heavy,simple,with minimal bells.Work horses.
I would agree with that comment other than the fact it has a computer controlled fuel injection. They don’t really have a choice, but to do something we don’t like in that category. It’s either common rail fuel or the DPF filter.
Mahindra owns old designs etc from massey i believe
With the exception of the TYM with the (former) Kukje engine, I think all the engines in this size machine are common rail direct fuel injection. There’s a lot of controls and sensors on it for it to work, but it is supposedly more efficient/cleaner running. I’m not exactly sure how Mahindra gets away without a DPF unless they run really hot with EGR or something. I like the simplicity of mechanical fuel injection like the TYM (or my 1981 Ford 1700), but it’s becoming obsolete with all the modern electronics and sensors and emissions regs. Then again, maybe I like mechanical fuel injection because I understand how it works. The engine runs until you shut the fuel off!
i own 2 mahindras with over 1700 hrs and they are good tractors and the few parts i have needed were no problem getting
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the review. Looking at the different models and manufacturers; all of them are only as good as the local dealer providing options and service.
i have a mahindra 2638 and love it. no problems with it at all.
I’m learning from these videos. Saves a lot of time at different dealers. Great job.
Thanks
Brock, I really like this series. You do a great job of pointing out the features and lift capacities of different brands. Thanks for bringing us along .
Glad to hear it. I’ve got about three more of these and then all I’ve covered the whole lineup.
One of them is going to be an extended demo on my property
I think you may very well be the Doug DeMuro of Tractors! Love your comparison videos Brock
Howdy Brock! I've been pretty happy with my little Mahindra. Just one issue with the front axle that was my fault not Mahindra's. I addressed it in one of my very first videos. When I'm ready to go bigger it probably won't be Mahindra just because 1) The dealership I bought it from is gone, so not sure how far I would have to go for any service work. 2) No cab in that 50hp range. If I'm going to stay in this cold climate, I want a damn cab! Nicely done and thanks for sharing 🤠
Dang it I own LS tractor 45 horse been awesome. 300 hours on it zero problems or something like that you got me thinking about getting a Mahindra now.
Nothing wrong with the LS it's a good machine !
Massey Ferguson 2800 tractors go up to 60.8 HP and offer hydrostatic transmissions and climate control cabs. Alot of other features also.
The older 1700 and 1800 series did as well. Enjoy the reviews and comparisons.
Well done Brock, enjoyed this presentation. Always appreciate your take on these various brands you have looked at.
Love these videos your doing, big Kubota fan here but I do love them all. Yanmar is awesome and very under rated in my opinion.
Thanks
Really appreciate the time you take to do these comparison videos. I would like to move up the same size/hp in the future. It would be cool if they let you put them to work. Love my green machine.
I’ve got one demo set up where they’re going to bring it to me
If thats a true power reverser.
With no clutch use, thats a nice advantage in my book.
Finding them in smaller tractors is not an easy task.
But then im massively against hydrostatic setups, so im definitely more in favor of manual transmission setups.
Haveing 12 speeds in a smaller tractor is a plus over the usual 8 speed shuttle setup.
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The PTO lever is probably a rare case, of not using any electrical equipment for its engagement.
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Its also nice to see the 540E mode, in a tractor thats sub 75hp
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The black lever on the right side is probably the remote hydraulics on rear.
I’m really liking this tractor series!! I learn something I didn’t know about every tractor that you showcase. 👍👍🔥🔥. Looking for ward to the next tractors to review!
I’ve got three or four more to cover and it looks like a couple of them are gonna let me take them home for the review
It’s my understanding that Mahindra has a dpf filter but it is set up to burn over 300 degrees at all times the other manufacturers do not run the exhaust as hot thus needing a regen cycle that super heats the dpf to clean it Mahindra always in a clean cycle other brands run short high temp regens necessary to clean the filter but both do have the dpf just using different methods to purge them clean. That is a nice looking tractor definitely built a little heavier than the compact tractors the other brands build
I have a 5145 Mahindra and am very happy with it. I am looking forward to the 1126 sub compact.
BTW, you are wrong, as others have said, about the levers on the right. The lever closest to the fender controls the auxiliary hydraulics rear remote. The other lever controls the three point lift. It has adjustable stops on the lever frame to set the height or lower position.
Good series! Looking forward to you taking home the 4052R!
I want to take a serious look at every brand, but wondered if the audience would be fatigued of all the Tractor reviews
Never gets old @RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT Wonder no further. The answer is, No!!!
Good because I’ve got two more tractors lined up. Looks like one of them they’re going to bring them to my house for a more in-depth review.
@RockhillfarmYT Brock I'm looking forward to that.
4540 Mahindra would have been a good one to look at. When i bought my Mahindra max24, I priced a 4540 4wd with loader and it was 18k and some change. But that was back 2016 or 17.
Mahindra was one of my biggest mistakes. The local dealer who sold it stopped selling and servicing Mahindra shortly after. Of course the engine blew with normal use, but I can’t find anyone to work on it. It hasn’t retained its value, but parted out, it’s more valuable than purchase price, so maybe others are having difficulty servicing theirs as well.
I’m looking to buy next year and vesting out the difference brands, impressed with Mahindras so far.
I have a review on this size tractor from every brand of you are interested
I test drove the 2638. The loader was jerky . I'm 6'1" and the leg room was very limited. I could feel my legs being torced back into my hip sockets. Probably a decent tractor for shorter users but the TYM was vastly a better tractor with 1000 pounds more fel capacity, roomier floorboard, smooth loader, and the tractor weighs more.
As a man that doesn't know shit about tractors and 3/4s of an acre , I enjoyed the video...... I don't need a tractor but would like one to scrap some goat heads and drive to maverick for an 18 pack of Busch light.....
I believe that tractor has a EGR valve and cooler and a pile of electronics. I’ll stick with my TYM for the simplicity and DPF, with over 200 hr on mine I have never had a regin.
Brock, thank you. I honestly forgot about Mahindra. I need to go by and look at their lower hp line and see what they have to offer.
That thing does look heavy
We have a 2017 Mahindra, 2555 with shuttle shift. Lots of power and lift capacity
Thanks for the comparison. I currently own a Mahindra 5555 4x4 op station. Love it used it for vegetable production in Oklahoma. Had 0 problems and I bought it with 66hrs on it. So basically a used tractor. I went through the same motion u are currently going through by comparing tractors. And I finally bought the Mahindra. Have a couple of dealers in my area and it's simple to work on.
Verry strong and light on fuel.
Having said that, it is currently up for sale, as I quit farming and no longer need it. I am looking at skidsteers just to do general maintenance on farm land.
What should your preference be on that, and why.
Look into Branson tractors. All 4x4 and all of them come with a bucket and a drag box. Not sure on the regen but they're nearly half of a similar sized Kubota.
Hey ! Look at that I’m guessing you had this set up before I mentioned about the Mahindra line up but great series !
I LOVE my 2635 Mahindra !
I have a Mahindra 4530 that i bought in 2013 . It is about 45 hp. I think the loader is rated about 2950. The tractor with loader weights around i think 7200 lbs if i remember right. These tractors are built heavy and are wori horses. The 30 series is a bare bones simple no frills machine . I have had no issues with it yet . My tractor does stay inside when not in use and is very well maintained. Would i buy another Mahindra? Probably not just because of the dealer network. My dealer closed up , not sure why . They were only about a half hour away . Now i have to go an hour to o next closest dealer not a big deal but just don't get that same fuzzy feeling as my original dealer. Anyway just my 2 cents. I enjoying this series of videos and I think your doing a good job on comparing the different brands.
I meant work horses
We really need to plug all these numbers into a spreadsheet. Now I'm starting to consider replacing my L4701HST with something a cab, better lift capacity, and a little more PTO horsepower. My gut reaction is the TYM, but it like every other tractor, it's not perfect. There may be a better value out there, and the TYM may or may not have something that makes it a deal breaker.
I have always liked their old school style and big heavy Tractor but didn’t feel comfortable buying one. They are probably pretty good.
What about the 2660 Mahindra hst w/ cab? I know they make it, I just looked at one. 60hp, hst, full cab, 3100 lb. loader lift. Take a look Brock.
massey 2860 next please!!
I just found a dealership that has one with the cab
@@RockhillfarmYT cant wait. thanks for all the effort you put in. keep it up buddy.
I have a 3650. It has been a great farm tractor sadly they don't make it anymore.
The Mahindra has a regen, but not an active one. It constantly passively regens with DOC instead of actively doing one every 50-100hrs with DPF.
Great information. Can you address the seat suspensions. For us old farts, that matters!
TYM up until very recently made Mahindra. TYM is a tractor GIANT. The reason it's similar to a TYM 5835 is TYM built it for Mahindra.
This is true, although I don’t think they made the bigger Mahindra. Only the 35 hp and under.
@@RockhillfarmYTcorrect.
Not from what I can find tym was started in 1951 just after the korean war. part of rebuilding after the war with usa help $$$$$ just like with japan after ww11 part of the rebuild effort and both are our allies and host several us military bases and employee thousands of americans
Maybe it's just me, but in 20 years as a mechanic I've never experienced a diesel ECM break. It is not a big issue. I think I would remember that because it would be so unique.
Injectors is not too uncommon to break on common rail systems because of the very high pressure and bad quality fuel, a very bad combo. Occasional high pressure pumps break too because of this.
But they undoubtedly have more electrical issues due to all the sensors needed.
That said I do have a no thrills 36 hp pre chamber injection engine in my own compact. It works. Not as well as a common rail engine, but good enough. I would need to be very desperate indeed to buy a tractor with any exhaust treatment system.
What about the 2660? Similar to the other tractors in the comparison. HST and cab.
I was told the mahindras have a much higher operating temp. I'd go simple. t574 or t494 for ROPS 30k and cab around 35k
Uses a DOC just like the new 5 series Deeres, new holland etc. there is no free lunch, these are essentially always in regen 24/7. A guy on TH-cam much smarter than me says the dpf method is best for longevity, he says DOC recycle abrasive exhaust back into the motor.
I need to pay more attention to Mahindra. The closest tractor dealer to me is a Mahindra so that would be the best for service.
I believe that Kubota, Yanmar, and LS all use common rail fuel systems but include DEF filters. TYM 574 uses a mechanical fuel system system and only uses electronics to monitor when the DEF needs to be regend.
TYM 574 does not use DEF! And no electronics for the fuel system.
@robertshoup5313 my bad. I meant to type DPF.
Mahindra got its own engine not from mitsubishi this engine is designed and made by mahidnra and the design is identical to international b 275
Tractors are like other machines some common sense required yes that s rare these days
I would consider this Mahindra tractor to be compared with the John Deere 5000 series or the Kubota M series Tractors. When I farmed all our tractors had a mechanical lever to engage the pto, just not that long.
That dealer told me the same thing. It’s just the closest they had to what I’ve been looking at.
If you compare it to those models, it’s well priced
Mahindra makes a good tractor. Looked at them when shopping for a cabbed tractor after living with open station tractors for too many years in a cold northern climate with hot humid summers. Mahindra tractors are crazy-LOUD inside the cab and seemed like more vibration compared to others (maybe the noise made it seem like more vibration 🤷♀). If you are looking for a quiet, peaceful experience inside a cab, Mahindra is not it. Plan on wearing hearing protection and forget the radio. Not a huge deal if you are good with something like a 3M Worktunes bluetooth device.
I think that you should look at the Mahindra 2660 hst with cab. 60 horsepower hydro with cab. 3122lbs loader lift. Has a backhoe option.
I asked the dealership what 50 to 60 hp hydrostat they had and he made it sound like they didn’t make any. I guess he was talking about only what was on his lot
This comment is a bit out of context regarding comparison of the new 45-70hp tractors being looked at here, but what I would give for a simple functional workhorse of a tractor with a 3 or 4 cylinder Detroit Diesel.
I'm sorry, but tractors, in the big scheme of the multitude of vehicles on the road and off road worldwide, do not contribute any measurable particulate pollution, assuming particulates are the true boon to humanity's existence.
Common Rail, DEF, DPF...blah blah blah BS.
I would like to see how that power shuttle works.
International tried this with their MaxxForce diesel engines. See how that turned out for them...
the t494 and t574 weigh 6700lbs with loader and rimguard
There was a small petal under the steering wheel on the floor, what is it for
Tilting the steering wheel
Ge said tilt steering... but that's usually on the dash. Small pedal on floor... is usually foot throttle for reversing.
I did the exact same comparisons as you are doing. I settled on the TYM 5835. Mahindra engine was super loud and rough running. I ran a comparable New Holland at the same dealership, and it was incredibly smooth but lots of plastic that looked like it would dry rot in no time. I’ve also heard from several folks that Mahindra is notorious for not being able to get parts. After I sat in the operator station of the TYM 5835, I was sold. I’m 6’2” and had tons of leg room. Only thing is, it doesn’t come in a cab version yet. I also like the idea of the 3pt lift using external cylinders for easier service if anything ever went wrong, you wouldn’t have to take the top off the tractor.
I have ran the 5835 before. Nice machine.
260 series has cab with shuttle and hydrostat
What dealer are you at? I don’t believe you said.
Lambert tractor in Riverton Kansas
Do the Bobcat tractor.
I am setting something up with the dealership I had in yesterday’s video
Kioti makes the bobcat tractors
That has been true, although the bobcat reps told me that they are starting to make them their selves. Massive Tractor production factory recently built.
Mahindra uses much larger cubic inch engines with lower RPMs to get the same horsepower. Example the engines for a 55 HP Mahindra is probably the same cubic inch of a 85 HP or HP of the other brands.
Mahindra, 2660 is probably what you’re looking for
First
Yanmar is a John Deere. A tractors weight dictates what implements it can pull, and pull well.
Yanmar used to make the John Deere tractors, but they don’t anymore
Yanmar designs, engineers, and build their tractors from the ground up. They have a lot of innovative features.
Why not that bigger cab?
I feel like that is too big for what I do
I have a 1635 shuttle shift. I believe it’s a rebadged Korean tractor but it’s been great.
Mostly of the Mahindra are all made in India unless yours is actually made by TYM which they did for limited models
Your 1635 would actually be a Mitsubishi built tractor with a Indian built Mahindra engine.
Mahindra has the 2660 with cab and hydrostat trans. In Eau Claire Wi for about $50k as of this comment
Seemed like the dealer was telling me they didn’t make a tractor that size with a hydrostat. I guess they were telling me what they had in stock.
Thanks for sharing
that Mahindra looks to be very comparable to the massey 2605 or 2606.
Dumb question maybe. Of all the trackers you've looked at, will the attachments you have work on any of them or do you have to start over buying new ones.
I have a few things that fit the bigger tractor, but most of them won’t
@@RockhillfarmYT I'm gonna guess that some might not give that a thought till the end. I'm sure they come at a pretty price
All modern tractors have common rall fuel injection. The Mahindras have a doc ( diesel oxujashin cadulist ) those things are always burning off the emissions and how it does that is it rots the dirty air back into the engine that is not good for engines. I would not want to a tractor that is braving in bad dirty emissions to meet the requirements
Tym 574 does not have common rail. It uses an old school mechanical pump.
I sold my kubota and am looking hard at Bad Boy or Yanmar..
I have a Mahindra dealer 5 minutes from my house but ive heard way too many bad reviews on their longevity..
When the weld on a Mahindra bucket breaks, thats a huge red flag for me..
It's going to be weird seeing you on a non-green tractor but if price is a significant factor I don't see it going any other way.
Google tractors with mechanical fuel injection. also a ch. called UTS has a vidjas called KUKJE VS EVERYBODY ELSE. also Kubota has a mech fuel inj in the b2650. that's too small for you but KU-BOATER does have one. not sure why just one
Good video I had a mahendra great hydraulics the Rest of it Is a piece of junk Run
solis 25 with cab
Mahindra is probably just as good as a john deere especially since most jd's are made in india or Mexico kubota is a solid tractor but to me the pedals are terrible and the jd is nothing but plastic
Looks beefy. Too bad they didn't have a cab version in stock. Mahindra just knocked most of the others down a peg!
Apparently mahindra makes a 2860 that would have been a better comparison. This was definitely a heavy built machine
Ive just heard a lot of bad experiences from Mahindra on a dealer and customer level
It still takes DEF right just doesnt do a REGEN due to the common rail injection, right? Sounds like you won't be able to get a Mahindra with cab for what you're looking to do hey?
No def
@@RockhillfarmYT Did I Hear it right that Bobcat guy said it used common rail also but it did have DEF as well?
@stump-bossBIll I think that is what he said.
only very large tractors use def
@@stephenmcatee2104 the question about the DEF was referring to 100 hp skid steer reviewed in yesterday‘s video. Basically required on anything over 75 hp.
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@@Cowboy_Steve just fully watching it now 1002
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You're barking up the wrong tree. Look at the Massey Ferguson 2600H series. I think you'd like those better.
I have a trip scheduled. Just trying to give a fair review to every brand
@@RockhillfarmYT 10-4 thanks
Following your beginning requirements, 55 -60hp with a cab and hydo, the 2860 is your best comparison. It's a great tractor, I have the 40hp version.
There is a Mahindra dealer in the town close to me,and I have looked at that exact tractor.I like the beefiness of it,and the all metal construction.I priced it last year at 36k.Im looking f a workhorse of a tractor to do most jobs around my place and it will get used a lot.I will also,in the future,buy one with cab at about double the HP,but for now,I'm looking for something that will be a solid,hard working tractor.I love Deere but ruled them out for this size,and I want to go to a Massey dealer and check out their stuff.So for now,my three way pick is Massey,Mahindra and TYM,not in order.
This guy definitely is not an expert at all on emissions.
I’m not an expert on anything and I don’t try to be
My information provided in this video came from conversation with the dealership, followed up with a conversation with an engineer that I know who diesel emissions components
I would like you to educate and the other viewers on the things that I said that were incorrect
@RockhillfarmYT alright, to clarify. Anything that's over 25hp these days is gonna be common rail no matter who makes it, otherwise it would be physically impossible to perform a regen cycle which requires fuel to either be chucked in on the exhaust stroke of 1 or 2 cylinders or requires a doser injector for fuel downstream in the exhaust pipe.
The reason that Mahindra isn't using a particulate filter is I'm presuming they can tune the engine to meet particulate caps in-cylinder with some timing adjustments and probably a doc which is just a catalytic converter.
Now all these engines are most likely gonna have a cooled egr circuit to keep combustion temps down and displace the excess oxygen that's taken in which will mostly solve the NOx emissions which is usually in a conflict with keeping particulate matter emissions down as well.
Now when you get into SCR systems which use exhaust fluid, that's a completely independent system that introduces the urea compound downstream of the engine into the exhaust system and that chemical reaction will destroy the NOx molecules and turn them into nitrogen gas. This system is only used on engines above 75hp and the beauty of it, is that it does not negatively affect anything in the engine like the other 2 devices, except it's viewed negatively because i guess putting a gallon of fluid in from time to time is too much for people
@wizard_of_poz4413 great, now you’re adding to a conversation that will be read by others and possibly providing valuable information.
What I’m attempting to do is provide value to someone who shopping for a tractor by explaining the important part of this that is relevant to them.
In this case, what is important to the buyer to understand and maybe they didn’t already know is that this is one of the only tractors over 25 hp that you can get does not have a DPF filter.
If I messed up a terminology or didn’t perfectly explain. It doesn’t take away from the information.
The most important thing I’ve learned here is that this is an electronically controlled fuel injection that is supposed to deliver a more precise amount of fuel whereas TYM kukje engine is mechanical
On the TM Tractor, if it has to regen, you have to park it for that regen. But in a majority of TYM owners say that their tractors essentially never do a regen
I think this is the information people care about while Tractor shopping
Here’s a great video that talks about the difference between the Mahindra engine and kukje engine
th-cam.com/video/pLgTFXknP3o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UWukIe4x3bKmTjdz
Here’s a great video that talks about the difference between the Mahindra engine and kukje engine
th-cam.com/video/pLgTFXknP3o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UWukIe4x3bKmTjdz
@RockhillfarmYT right and I want to point out anytime I see anyone who's trying to spread information that's not as accurate as they can present it whether by intent or not because either way it damages the whole commons by spreading a ton of really irritating superstition and bs and that's the last thing we need when we're under pressure from regulatory and commercial entities who want to get rid of engines altogether and switch us to battery everything