So people will buy cars for $10k-$30k range and not $80-$100k range? Who knew huh? These care companies asking too much for EVs are ruining the transition.
Can’t ask companies to lose 30k per car and stay in business, the average ICE car is now at $48k every car is too expensive due to inflation and government interference in the market place. Keep the government out of the free market and let the winners and losers shake out based on demand.
Funny about radiant heat. My folks had a home built in 1910 that had these huge water radiators. The place was always toasty in the winter with none of the drafts that I’ve always felt in my newly built homes.
On the window film topic, a change in 12 degree Celsius, would be about a 22 degree change in Fahrenheit. You got 54 degrees buy just converting from 12C, but that accounted for the offset of the 2 scales, which should be ignored when talking about a change in temperature.
A cash for clunkers program is a great way to kickstart BEV sales especially if more affordable offerings become available soon... Just wish I had that sweet Chinese deal where you could snag a Wuling Mini for $4400 and offset $2800 of that by dumping off your old ICE junker... Now that would get sales soaring if similar programs were here...
Uh, I believe they're called "JERRRRRRRRRRRBBBBBSSSSSS"... And get used to it. Unionized or not anything that can be automated will be soon enough.. I give it 5 years before half the economy contracts/collapses or adjusts to the new reality of McJobs being taken by McBots!
Having said it before; the Chinese and the Koreans are way ahead on EVs and will dominate the industry.
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It's to the point where China can't steal any more intellectual property and has to start designing from scratch, let's see how they do. Probably not so good.
Yup. Korea and China are the new Japan in terms of being ahead of the technological and cultural curb... Don't forget while America can't get a working hyperloop to function, The Chinese T-Flight 1000 is now running at 600 mph in tests and first high speed 1000 mph line is under construction now! Shanghai to Hangzhou in 9 minutes...
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@@stickynorth Korea has developed their own technology for over a decade, China has mostly stolen intellectual property from western manufacturers that moved production to China. They are mostly copy cats, everything from watches to military aircraft but all inferior to the products they stole designs and technology from. Eventually workers in China will demand a realistic wage and manufacturing will move to the next country of exploited labor. The number of cheap labor countries has become smaller and in a decade or so there will be parity. Then China will have to develop their own technology to compete and they will fail.
2:17 VWs plan were always somewhat elusive. First claming to build six cell plants in Europe, next they included Northvolt Ett into that calculation, because VW is holding a 20% stake in Northvolt. Then VW announced two own plants in Europe with Salzgitter and Sagunto, both currently under construction. Northvolt seems to have issues ramping up deliveries, with BMW canceling a big contract. Let's see, if VW has to step in. And then there is Gotion (25% own by VW), which is planning to build two cell factories in Morocco and Slovakia (together with Inobat). This would certainly fit into VW's reduction in CapEx and increased focus on cooperation. I wouldn't be surprised, if we see VW and Ford or Rivan cooperation in battery cells coming from Ontario, Canada.
Automakers and dealers need to provide driver instruction on ADAS. Regulators also need to require an ‘EV with ADAS’ designation on their licence. 🤔 I’ve been wondering when car windshields and rear/side windows ever become transparent solar panels that generate electricity.
That's why the cars cost so much, and it's very hard to fire them so they can slack off whenever they want. Not to mention the huge pension and healthcare.
@@davidmccarthy6061 Do you not realize you can purchase many new GM products for less than $30K? What do you mean by "slack off?" Ever work in a factory or have a "line job?" If you "slack off" you will not last. Most full-time jobs, careers, and professions in America offer healthcare; I fail to see your point.
11:22 man Ford really can't give you a "Corvette killer" for under $300K can they? First the GT, now the Mustang GTD. Also, my money is still on the ZR1 taking it to the pitiful 800hp of the GTD, if nothing else, like any good Corvette, "for the money" 😉
I don't see how a humanoid robot could contain $150k worth of materials. The total mass has to be much less than an automobile, maybe 300-400 lbs. max. How much iron, copper, aluminum, plastic, etc. can it take? IMO, the $150k number probably is for finished components, like motors, solenoids, batteries, microprocessors, etc.
0:34 The GS estimate of $150K as the current HW-only wholesale cost is still only for off-the-shelf actuators, etc. and not bespoke-developed items. Additionally, this report was privately released ~9 months ago, so does not account for inflation since then: "Note: The following is a redacted version of the original report published 8 January 2024 [39 pgs]." "BOM cost trended down likely by 40% to $150k per unit in 2023 from c.$250k a year ago"
Base Corvettes can be had for $64-$69K; that's pretty affordable for a mid-engine "Super Car." Walk into a Ferrari dealership with $64K and tell them you want something new...... you'll be escorted to the gift shop.
Hi Sean, how about we say alternative-energy vehicle instead of new energy vehicle? Not new for EV which was even earlier than ICE, but EV is not inclusive of HEV/PHEV/etc. I got you.
@2012bigPerm not sure who is in your group, but there are Chinese folks debating the same as what I am doing here regarding what is written in the China government planning doc. I as an individual personally don't want to ride a horse equipped with batteries and ewheels one day and call it new/eco-friendly lol
EREV analogy: - A human lives each normal week on a diet of healthy, clean vegetables that are wholesome, but not energy dense. - When that human occasionally takes a weeklong backpack journey, they will wisely carry ENERGY DENSE granola, beef jerky and nuts. Similarly, an EV battery sized optimally for daily trips can be paired with a small, simple lightweight ICE using energy dense petrol for carefree road trips and 2 minute😮 refills.
So help me understand the logic here. As mentioned dirty sensors reduce their effectiveness on autonomous safety features. we are asking people to clean their cars more often yet we are allowing fully autonomous cars to be driving around with no drivers carrying around passengers. What happens when they have a splash of mud or they have a rainy day that kicks up spray. Are we really willing to say that these cars are as safe as they were designed to be? certainly doesn’t sound that way. I’m sorry, but if the safety features require them to be 100% clean in order to be 100% effective then it’s my opinion that they 100% should not be on the road.
You raise a fair point. Expect to see automated cleaning systems on sensors in the near future. This is technology not biology. It is easily added in most cases.
I’m sure the designers have thought about this. Perhaps the car should pull to the side and stop… or simply stop. And as others have said, automatic washers can be used.
Why do you think all self-driving tests are in sunny and dry regions? Not a single test has been conducted in heavy rain or snow. The technology is barely coping with just normal traffic in clear weather.
Humanoid robots are in general a bad idea. They are only good for infrastructure made for man, like cars and stairs. Wheels are much simpler and more efficient for moving around, elevators can easily replace stairs and cars should be able to drive by themselves especially in a factory.
They're actually not good for stairs either. Most stair capable machines (lots of forms of wheelchairs or other mobility) don't use bipedal motions because they're inherently unstable. From an industrial perspective bipedal also makes no sense since you have only two small contact points with the ground and almost no leverage to move or manipulate other objects. Most industrial machines are bolted to the floor or have very heavy and table bases for reasons of accuracy and leverage. These bipedal robots are so obvious a scam i'm genuinely disappointed autoline keeps reporting on it with a straight face.
The government and the ruling party of the Republic of Korea (ROK) announced on Sunday that they will expedite the launch of an electric vehicle (EV) battery certification program to address growing public safety concerns following a series of EV fires. Originally planned for a later date, the program will now begin in October. The move comes after an EV fire on August 1, involving a Mercedes-Benz with Farasis Energy batteries, took eight hours to control and caused damage to around 140 vehicles, forcing some residents in nearby apartments to evacuate!
Not a terrible idea. Maybe they could FINALLY tighten up driving testing and standards in the US. If you pass a higher level competency test you can have some ADAS disabled on your vehicle. Or something like that
Wonder which of various EV makers, with own battery plants see the slow down as OPPORTUNITY to use slack production time as chance to do production optimization/integration of new battery chemistries into their product portfolio….. Make lemons --> FUTURE SELLING ADVANTAHGES!!
That Hyundai windshield technology could be a real gamechanger for Snowbelt vehicles.. Often you can spend 15 minutes just sitting in a car to warm up only to drive less than 5 minutes. That was my experience working here in Canada in the winter... You waste more diesel just warming up your vehicle than actually driving it most days... This is why we need hearty EV's!
Coal-fired power plants in China generate over half of the world's coal-fired power and a significant portion of China's electricity. In 2023, coal accounted for 39.9% of China's electricity supply, while non-fossil fuels like nuclear and renewables accounted for 53.9%. However, China is responsible for 95% of new coal power construction in 2023, with 70.2 GW of new construction underway, which is 19 times more than the rest of the world. As of August 29, 2023, China has 243 GW of new coal power approved or under construction
🔌🔌I like the Aptera approach to keeping the vehicle cool if it ever comes to market. It will keep it cool and benefit from an additional 40 miles of free range to its 1000-mile range added daily because it is Driven by the Sun.🔌🔌
Tesla Headline News: Another VP quits! Another CyberBust tow hitch disconnects from wimpy, brittle aluminum casting! Another day without any autonomous permits!
Italy smart $ they know about FISKER take the money and run and NISSAN TENNESSEE $2.3 billion taxpayer funded battery 🪫 factory built , paid for but never opened . This green Agevda is GTA for EVs
if you have an E-rev vehicle with a 45% efficient motor, you are going to beat the efficiency of a full EV, when you consider that most power plants are not even 40% efficient, and you lose about 20% in transmission losses to the charging station, and lose a few percent in the DC to DC conversion in charging stations. People mistakenly think that EV's charge by magic, but our US grid is not that efficient, and older steam power plants are down below 30% efficiency.
That is not accurate, this ignores the inefficiencies of that solution, which are similar in many ways, especially with additional losses between thermal and electrical conversion on top. That aside, some modern plants are closer to 60% efficiency, and transmission losses are important considerations but not necessarily as high as 20%. And for many EV drivers the power comes free with solar panels, or clean with solar/wind farms. For reference, FCV is in a similar boat in terms of converting chemical to electrical energy, and the efficiency differences there are 87% for EV vs 40% for FCV.
@@AllanSustainabilityFan your estimates for transmission losses are not accurate for the USA. We don't often make use of the waste heat in our plants; unlike in Germany where they squeeze every Joule for what it is worth, by putting their power plants in the middle of the town so as to use the waste steam heat for nearby buildings, Americans typically put their power plants at the edge of town and have losses throughout the system; invariably using crappy aluminum wire. They under-report the actual losses. Aluminum wire only has 61% the conductivity of Copper, but they switched to AL because it is lighter and cheaper, but you are still warming up the air with those losses. America's grid is old and the old step down transformers on the poles are maybe 95% efficient, not the 98% that they can be new. IF we used copper the thieves would steal it. Our local traffic lights here in Oakland have been attacked repeatedly with the wires stolen for scrap (around $4/lb for copper). America's typical suburban grid is woefully inadequate to handle an all electric transportation scheme.
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So people will buy cars for $10k-$30k range and not $80-$100k range? Who knew huh? These care companies asking too much for EVs are ruining the transition.
Can’t ask companies to lose 30k per car and stay in business, the average ICE car is now at $48k every car is too expensive due to inflation and government interference in the market place. Keep the government out of the free market and let the winners and losers shake out based on demand.
I mean money grows on trees so I don't see why ppl would want to spend less 🤷🤣
Poor quality of EV charging will do them in. History repeating itself.
Funny about radiant heat. My folks had a home built in 1910 that had these huge water radiators. The place was always toasty in the winter with none of the drafts that I’ve always felt in my newly built homes.
bZ4X has offered it for 2 years now. Living in Minnesota, I can tell you how nice the feature is. Warm legs without blasting the heater is awesome.
Radiant home heat from cast iron radiators is nice because it is not on or off like forced air. To an extent it masks the drafts.
So....when humanoid robots begin assembling other humanoid robots does that mean we need Sarah Connor more than ever?
Used EVs are a great buy. $30,000 is the magic number.
On the window film topic, a change in 12 degree Celsius, would be about a 22 degree change in Fahrenheit. You got 54 degrees buy just converting from 12C, but that accounted for the offset of the 2 scales, which should be ignored when talking about a change in temperature.
Like all good news there was an "up to" in there
@@2012bigPerm No. Unit conversions are just math, they have only one correct answer.
Sounds like the new rumored all wheel drive Corvette is the much anticipated Zora.
E-ray is AWD. On sale today.
A cash for clunkers program is a great way to kickstart BEV sales especially if more affordable offerings become available soon... Just wish I had that sweet Chinese deal where you could snag a Wuling Mini for $4400 and offset $2800 of that by dumping off your old ICE junker... Now that would get sales soaring if similar programs were here...
Unfortunately in the U.S. the policy for many industries change 180 degrees every four years so that puts us far behind the advanced countries.
Robot: Beep boop
UAW: They took our jobs!!
Uh, I believe they're called "JERRRRRRRRRRRBBBBBSSSSSS"... And get used to it. Unionized or not anything that can be automated will be soon enough.. I give it 5 years before half the economy contracts/collapses or adjusts to the new reality of McJobs being taken by McBots!
Having said it before; the Chinese and the Koreans are way ahead on EVs and will dominate the industry.
It's to the point where China can't steal any more intellectual property and has to start designing from scratch, let's see how they do. Probably not so good.
Such insight and you've even said it before, nice.
@@2012bigPerm Still true though...
Yup. Korea and China are the new Japan in terms of being ahead of the technological and cultural curb... Don't forget while America can't get a working hyperloop to function, The Chinese T-Flight 1000 is now running at 600 mph in tests and first high speed 1000 mph line is under construction now! Shanghai to Hangzhou in 9 minutes...
@@stickynorth Korea has developed their own technology for over a decade, China has mostly stolen intellectual property from western manufacturers that moved production to China. They are mostly copy cats, everything from watches to military aircraft but all inferior to the products they stole designs and technology from. Eventually workers in China will demand a realistic wage and manufacturing will move to the next country of exploited labor. The number of cheap labor countries has become smaller and in a decade or so there will be parity. Then China will have to develop their own technology to compete and they will fail.
Simply Great Show. Love it. Thanks.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks, Sean!
2:17 VWs plan were always somewhat elusive. First claming to build six cell plants in Europe, next they included Northvolt Ett into that calculation, because VW is holding a 20% stake in Northvolt. Then VW announced two own plants in Europe with Salzgitter and Sagunto, both currently under construction. Northvolt seems to have issues ramping up deliveries, with BMW canceling a big contract. Let's see, if VW has to step in. And then there is Gotion (25% own by VW), which is planning to build two cell factories in Morocco and Slovakia (together with Inobat). This would certainly fit into VW's reduction in CapEx and increased focus on cooperation. I wouldn't be surprised, if we see VW and Ford or Rivan cooperation in battery cells coming from Ontario, Canada.
E-revz would have been great in 2008
Automakers and dealers need to provide driver instruction on ADAS. Regulators also need to require an ‘EV with ADAS’ designation on their licence. 🤔 I’ve been wondering when car windshields and rear/side windows ever become transparent solar panels that generate electricity.
Wait…UAW workers make 150000 a year??!?!
...with overtime, that's about right. Skilled trades can usually top $200K
@@12345682900is that their rate of pay, or the cost to the company including benefits?
That's why the cars cost so much, and it's very hard to fire them so they can slack off whenever they want. Not to mention the huge pension and healthcare.
@@davidmccarthy6061 Do you not realize you can purchase many new GM products for less than $30K? What do you mean by "slack off?" Ever work in a factory or have a "line job?" If you "slack off" you will not last. Most full-time jobs, careers, and professions in America offer healthcare; I fail to see your point.
@@12345682900those less than 30k vehicles are imports from Korea or Mexico lmao
No chance against BYD Yangwang and GAC Aion.
Competition is a good thing.
11:22 man Ford really can't give you a "Corvette killer" for under $300K can they? First the GT, now the Mustang GTD. Also, my money is still on the ZR1 taking it to the pitiful 800hp of the GTD, if nothing else, like any good Corvette, "for the money" 😉
I don't see how a humanoid robot could contain $150k worth of materials. The total mass has to be much less than an automobile, maybe 300-400 lbs. max. How much iron, copper, aluminum, plastic, etc. can it take? IMO, the $150k number probably is for finished components, like motors, solenoids, batteries, microprocessors, etc.
Interesting tech by Hyundai, heating system like this could really help with efficiency.
Not surprised by Geely great sales their cars are great
It does. bZ4X already has that. As a result, you don't have to draw as much from the heat-pump to stay warm.
Does the window film help prevent occasional chipped glass from gravel?
So, the same as the GM heated screens from the late '80s?
The same as Fords Instaclear system from the early 80's on the Taurus.
0:34 The GS estimate of $150K as the current HW-only wholesale cost is still only for off-the-shelf actuators, etc. and not bespoke-developed items. Additionally, this report was privately released ~9 months ago, so does not account for inflation since then:
"Note: The following is a redacted version of the original report published 8 January 2024 [39 pgs]."
"BOM cost trended down likely by 40% to $150k per unit in 2023 from c.$250k a year ago"
All that battery production capacity is really going to waste. It should be going into electric semis and truck trailers.
Those robots just make me think of Itchy and Scratchy land.
Easy to design Corvettes. When are they going to design something affordable that people actually want
Nevah or Nevaaaah!
The C8 Corvette is an engineering masterpiece and that fact is easily recognizable to any person with even a basic knowledge of automobiles.
It’s quite alright. Wouldn’t really call it a “masterpiece” tho unless you are a GM fanboy
To engineer a car for the masses and make it desirable that’s masterpiece
Base Corvettes can be had for $64-$69K; that's pretty affordable for a mid-engine "Super Car." Walk into a Ferrari dealership with $64K and tell them you want something new...... you'll be escorted to the gift shop.
Hi Sean, how about we say alternative-energy vehicle instead of new energy vehicle? Not new for EV which was even earlier than ICE, but EV is not inclusive of HEV/PHEV/etc. I got you.
Because you know.... Everyone else knows what words mean until you guys go and make em modern
@2012bigPerm not sure who is in your group, but there are Chinese folks debating the same as what I am doing here regarding what is written in the China government planning doc. I as an individual personally don't want to ride a horse equipped with batteries and ewheels one day and call it new/eco-friendly lol
Why we in America don't have EREV ?
That's what Chevy Volt was..
@@digitalkov was and now zero
So which is more affordable and efficient, a hybrid or an erev?
Tesla Humanoid Robot will rule!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sure Sure but just in your mind!
Hoping they'll fix his stock
Will it be like other Elon promises?
It will be another Musk flop like the CyberFlop.
EREV analogy:
- A human lives each normal week on a diet of healthy, clean vegetables that are wholesome, but not energy dense.
- When that human occasionally takes a weeklong backpack journey, they will wisely carry ENERGY DENSE granola, beef jerky and nuts.
Similarly, an EV battery sized optimally for daily trips can be paired with a small, simple lightweight ICE using energy dense petrol for carefree road trips and 2 minute😮 refills.
So help me understand the logic here. As mentioned dirty sensors reduce their effectiveness on autonomous safety features. we are asking people to clean their cars more often yet we are allowing fully autonomous cars to be driving around with no drivers carrying around passengers. What happens when they have a splash of mud or they have a rainy day that kicks up spray. Are we really willing to say that these cars are as safe as they were designed to be? certainly doesn’t sound that way. I’m sorry, but if the safety features require them to be 100% clean in order to be 100% effective then it’s my opinion that they 100% should not be on the road.
Tesla can't even get AutoWipers to work, yet, 10/10 day is around the corner.
You raise a fair point. Expect to see automated cleaning systems on sensors in the near future. This is technology not biology. It is easily added in most cases.
I’m sure the designers have thought about this. Perhaps the car should pull to the side and stop… or simply stop. And as others have said, automatic washers can be used.
You must have a brain. Listen up...Stop it 😂
Why do you think all self-driving tests are in sunny and dry regions?
Not a single test has been conducted in heavy rain or snow.
The technology is barely coping with just normal traffic in clear weather.
Humanoid robots are in general a bad idea. They are only good for infrastructure made for man, like cars and stairs.
Wheels are much simpler and more efficient for moving around, elevators can easily replace stairs and cars should be able to drive by themselves especially in a factory.
Not a bad idea but a complementary idea.
They're actually not good for stairs either. Most stair capable machines (lots of forms of wheelchairs or other mobility) don't use bipedal motions because they're inherently unstable. From an industrial perspective bipedal also makes no sense since you have only two small contact points with the ground and almost no leverage to move or manipulate other objects. Most industrial machines are bolted to the floor or have very heavy and table bases for reasons of accuracy and leverage.
These bipedal robots are so obvious a scam i'm genuinely disappointed autoline keeps reporting on it with a straight face.
@@ethanwelner1230 If one needs an industrial robot you don't use the humanoid robot. These complement existing robots they only replace people.
Robots will improve quickly as well as AI.
C3P...oh no
Replace humans in factories. Right… that’s what they’re planning.
The government and the ruling party of the Republic of Korea (ROK) announced on Sunday that they will expedite the launch of an electric vehicle (EV) battery certification program to address growing public safety concerns following a series of EV fires. Originally planned for a later date, the program will now begin in October. The move comes after an EV fire on August 1, involving a Mercedes-Benz with Farasis Energy batteries, took eight hours to control and caused damage to around 140 vehicles, forcing some residents in nearby apartments to evacuate!
I really hate ADAS. They are very annoying for the driver. I would pay to ave them removed
Not a terrible idea. Maybe they could FINALLY tighten up driving testing and standards in the US. If you pass a higher level competency test you can have some ADAS disabled on your vehicle. Or something like that
@@divid3dbyZero And put a sensor in the car to prevent driving when your tired or distracted.
I drive as much as possible with Autopilot on.
What is a NEV ?
New Electric Vehicle?
New Energy Vehicle
Wonder which of various EV makers, with own battery plants see the slow down as OPPORTUNITY to use slack production time as chance to do production optimization/integration of new battery chemistries into their product portfolio….. Make lemons --> FUTURE SELLING ADVANTAHGES!!
That Hyundai windshield technology could be a real gamechanger for Snowbelt vehicles.. Often you can spend 15 minutes just sitting in a car to warm up only to drive less than 5 minutes. That was my experience working here in Canada in the winter... You waste more diesel just warming up your vehicle than actually driving it most days... This is why we need hearty EV's!
Coal-fired power plants in China generate over half of the world's coal-fired power and a significant portion of China's electricity. In 2023, coal accounted for 39.9% of China's electricity supply, while non-fossil fuels like nuclear and renewables accounted for 53.9%. However, China is responsible for 95% of new coal power construction in 2023, with 70.2 GW of new construction underway, which is 19 times more than the rest of the world. As of August 29, 2023, China has 243 GW of new coal power approved or under construction
Unmissable
Consumers won't pay $100k for an EV anymore? Cheapskates!
🔌🔌I like the Aptera approach to keeping the vehicle cool if it ever comes to market. It will keep it cool and benefit from an additional 40 miles of free range to its 1000-mile range added daily because it is Driven by the Sun.🔌🔌
Whatever happened to Aptera Motors?
One hopes they finally come out with their product, seems to be still struggling on the funding side, but the "design" looks ready.
I actually thought they went bankrupt @@AllanSustainabilityFan
We need to go back to the term BEV so automakers don't mix it up when it suits them - electrified is BS. Hybrids are gas cars
Tesla Headline News: Another VP quits! Another CyberBust tow hitch disconnects from wimpy, brittle aluminum casting! Another day without any autonomous permits!
MegaCasting is a MegaFlop.
One more reason why $andy Munro is a fraud…nobody uses cast aluminum for truck frames yet $andy cheers Musk on like the fanboy he is
Italy smart $ they know about FISKER take the money and run and NISSAN TENNESSEE $2.3 billion taxpayer funded battery 🪫 factory built , paid for but never opened . This green Agevda is GTA for EVs
Elon = next year 😂😂
I have made a lot of research concerning crypto market but I haven't gotten the fundamentals step to get started. I wish I can get the help of a pro.
For a couple of time now, I have a strong desire to earn in digital currency but I don't know how to go about it.
I have made a lot of mistakes trying to do it on my own,I really need direction or help of a pro in the field.
Wow, you guys are discussing about the same thing in my mind what a coincidence. Hahaha .I bought couple of crypto like Shiba Inu,BNB,XRP & ADA.
But,I have lost so much money on them trying to keep for a long time. I need to take a different direction, I don't mind if taking risk is involved.
©✓✓I suggest, Cathy Rose,🌹 she is extremely good on that.
if you have an E-rev vehicle with a 45% efficient motor, you are going to beat the efficiency of a full EV, when you consider that most power plants are not even 40% efficient, and you lose about 20% in transmission losses to the charging station, and lose a few percent in the DC to DC conversion in charging stations. People mistakenly think that EV's charge by magic, but our US grid is not that efficient, and older steam power plants are down below 30% efficiency.
That is not accurate, this ignores the inefficiencies of that solution, which are similar in many ways, especially with additional losses between thermal and electrical conversion on top.
That aside, some modern plants are closer to 60% efficiency, and transmission losses are important considerations but not necessarily as high as 20%.
And for many EV drivers the power comes free with solar panels, or clean with solar/wind farms.
For reference, FCV is in a similar boat in terms of converting chemical to electrical energy, and the efficiency differences there are 87% for EV vs 40% for FCV.
@@AllanSustainabilityFan your estimates for transmission losses are not accurate for the USA. We don't often make use of the waste heat in our plants; unlike in Germany where they squeeze every Joule for what it is worth, by putting their power plants in the middle of the town so as to use the waste steam heat for nearby buildings, Americans typically put their power plants at the edge of town and have losses throughout the system; invariably using crappy aluminum wire. They under-report the actual losses. Aluminum wire only has 61% the conductivity of Copper, but they switched to AL because it is lighter and cheaper, but you are still warming up the air with those losses. America's grid is old and the old step down transformers on the poles are maybe 95% efficient, not the 98% that they can be new.
IF we used copper the thieves would steal it. Our local traffic lights here in Oakland have been attacked repeatedly with the wires stolen for scrap (around $4/lb for copper).
America's typical suburban grid is woefully inadequate to handle an all electric transportation scheme.
CCP propaganda on Chinaline Daily is disappointing!
who would buy a jaguar they are junk. landrover is even worse.
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Why only 3% per cent female Techs in the automotive industry
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Why are Techs leaving the automotive industry
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