Dogfighting Debriefs #4 - P-39 Playing Tag (1 vs 2)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2019
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These dogfighting debriefs are multiplayer flights analysed to illustrate maneuvers, tactics, and the decision making process.Whether you see kills or deaths is irrelevant. If there is a learning point to be had, you will see it here.
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Brilliant. I love the break down and the use of Graphics. Best info channel out there by far. 👍
Cheers Terry, appreciate you enjoy these! :-)
@@RequiemsACTL I appreciate you making them. Thank you.
Brilliant flying and explanations, thanks :)
Thanks Longshot, overall there was luck that went my way and I felt like I was fighting the TIR a bit at times trying to keep track but there were some good learning points to take from it. This flight motivated me to tweak my TIR profile a bit since then to make it work better for me.
Yes, especially with all the unusual placement of the metal framework etc in the P39. Watching you evade attacks while still maintaining enough energy to attack them on the overshoot, I was reminded of Clive Caldwell's being bounced by two Bf109s while flying a Tomahawk. He took numerous hits, but was able to shoot one of the attackers down and damage the other (a veteran ace Werner Schroer) enough that he had to disengage.
He certainly was very lucky that day, as you were here, and as you said on another comment luck is essential against such superior odds, but luck is nothing without skill. Keep up the great work :)
As someone who just started with IL-2 Sturmovik and flight sims in general, I'm in awe. I hope one day I'll be able to dogfight on the same level as you. Amazing videos.
That's awesome to hear Mikifert! Flight sims can be a really rewarding experience as you'll feel like you're not making progress and suddenly one day you realise "Hey, I got this now!" Just focus on learning one airplane at a time, especially when starting out. I can try and answer any questions you have of course, but the community on the Il-2 forum is great and will give you endless amounts of advice as well! Hope to see you online sometime :-)
Requiem is right, after 1000 hours of being a target you will suddenly "feel" out the planes and everything you need to do will be clear through the trial and errors that have developed your decision making
I just can't imagine flying that well and in such a cool state against 2 opponents, great video.
The voiceover is of course done after the fact...I couldn't really do this type of evaluation talk and fly at the same time. I don't have the brain space to do that! :-)
Very nicely done, highly informative. Love your content. Cheers. o7
Thanks Leaflizer! o7
Good stuff. I love flying the P39 and it is great against anyone that relies on a rear gunner but I rarely win even a 1 on 1 dogfight against human pilots in fighters, never mind 2 on 1!
Fantastic video as always. Thank you very much for the time you put into these, they are very helpful to me as I try to get better.
Thanks Creep, I hope you're noticing some improvements!
Fantastic and informative series!
My favorite debrief so far (and in a crate I avoid like the plague). Enjoyed the breakdown of tactics in relation to the cues you're given by your SA. Thanks for the vid, sir!
Cheers Jakob, the P-39 has been underrated in general. Since the G-force adjustments it can hold it's own pretty well and is at less of a disadvantage. When you hit things with that cannon though...man it's satisfying! LOL
i knew watching your videos you know what you were talking about. but after watching these debriefs, dang you are a straight badass!
It's all about trying to understand what you do right and wrong and learn from it. I'm very much out of practice with combat sims recently with all the RL training and flying I've been doing this year!
One of the best debriefs so far!
Well done - presentation, as well as handling a situation against 2 fighters that are at least a half generation more advanced than the one you are flying. And, I like the P-39. The eternal quest to find something that stands still long enough to bloop a 37 mm pumpkin ball into it.
Would be useful, also. Except. . . My I.Q. drops by half when I start the game up, then by half again if I log in to a multi-player server.
Cheers Guard, you're better than me then...I lose that and another half of my IQ when I get in the air :-)
Fantastic stuff.
Fantastic job!
Ahhhhh, back in me old comfy seat again! It's been a while Req, there's been pilots falling out of the sky like confetti!!
Count me as one of the confetti :-) I've been doing some skinning and some MP. Sometimes I feel like I spend more time making videos than flying the sim which makes me feel pretty rusty when I do get the chance to go online.
@@RequiemsACTL Ahhh, the dark art of skinning eh? I'm a very familiar exponent of THAT endless pit of twilight!! I also spend a lot of time both doing that and making videos just to illustrate their in - game 'glory'! What skins y'been treating the world to then?
So far I've just made Spit IX skins for Busdriver and myself. You can download them and have a look if you like. I used the template but re-painted the invasion stripes and some other minor touch ups.
www.dropbox.com/s/qiohsfmzhhuhtd2/RequiemMkIX.zip?dl=0
www.dropbox.com/s/e0zovtxai1z3jw3/BusdriverMkIX.zip?dl=0
Very good explanations i learned a lot with your demos which are well done.
Thanks Thierry, glad to hear it!
I truly enjoy these videos. I am way low in the food chain, so everything adds! Yours are the best videos I have found. I wish there would be DCS videos on this matter, since those red/blue tags are most of the time blocked in the multiplaye arenas...
Thanks David! Honestly it doesn't matter what sim is used to represent these perspectives unless you're looking for aircraft specific items. I make DCS content but haven't gotten around to really doing these kinds of MP debriefs using Tacview.
Brilliant stuff, Req!
Cheers mate! :-)
Great tactics and great shooting. My buddy & I flew the P-39 for the first time today - quite a nice little ride, in its own way.
The saving grace of the P-39 is it's cannon. You really need practice to get used to it's trajectory though...like many people say it's like throwing pumpkins at someone LOL
@@RequiemsACTL Летаю на P-39 и стараюсь выжить в боях. Я сбиваю и меня сбивают. Рекорд сбитых на Кобре - 4 истребителя. Но это думаю случайность. Лично моё мнение, что истребитель плохо реализован в игре. Такое чувство, что у него тормозной парашют в заднице. Скорость не плохо, а ооочень плохо держит. Пушка М-4 слабая ! Мой рекорд - 4 попадания в Fw-190 и он ушёл. И ещё необоснованная раскачка самолёта по тангажу и крену. Слишком чувствительный. Кобра нравится, но она не соответствует, что о ней говорят ветераны. В игре двигатель и пушка слабые ! Полёты на P-39 многими вирпилами считается извращением. )))
@@Superassgeyer Да, я согласен с тем, что вы имеете в виду. Иногда это не похоже на истребителя, которым военно-воздушные силы были бы довольны из-за его производительности в игре. Я также думаю, что в целом на всех самолетах существует проблема со слишком высокой чувствительностью и контролем, особенно в рыскании и тангаже.
(Это было написано с помощью гугл переводчика)
@@RequiemsACTL Я смысл вашего текста понимаю. У моего друга, дед воевал вместе с асом Комозиным. Он рассказывал, что такое Кобра и как он сбивал мессершмиттов и фокке-вульфов. Истребитель был ОТЛИЧНЫЙ ! Дед на Кобре дошёл до Берлина. Разработчики далеки от истины. Лишь бы продать и получить выгоду. Товар не соответствует. Но я всё равно с товарищами стараемся и её оседлать. )))
Excellent.
Thank you, much appreciated
Thanks for making these videos :)
A bigger problem if both attackers are on the same comms and working together. Aircraft working as a team set the hostile up for the kill shot. It is possible to herd a victim by positioning and feint attack runs quite easily, if they don't understand what is happening.
Being adept at aerobatic evades I'm usually the "Bait" fighter for my wingman / wingmen to whack whatever is failing to shoot me down.
I once spent 34 minutes on the CloD - Blitz ATAG server keeping one of the top aces (Jg.4 Meyer) busy, along with his wingman flying defence circles (RAF Standard tactic to frustrate / thwart boom and zoom attackers as it is next to impossible to hit a plane flying in a defence circle from a boom and zoom attack plus risky). Anyhow after 5 minutes his wingman grew impatient and ended up going past my Hurricane as I came around, in my defence circle, and I PKed him. I then continued to frustrate repeated boom and zoom attacks for the next 29 minutes whilst on comms to a friendly Spitfire, flown by Count Orlok, who was closing on my position at extreme altitude. When Meyer was at the top of his climb Count Orlok swooped down and nailed him.
It's a very old dogfight sim team tactic going back a long time. We've used it successfully on IL-2 GB too usually with 110's as they can be forced to turn tighter than the 109 and 190 plus have a higher dive speed with superior gun accuracy.
Bravo
It seems you weren't using the 5 minute emergency mode during the fight, more like the combat power mp with continuous RPM. You were low energy state anyway against those opponents, but maybe 3000 RPM and 51" would have given a bit more power for the prop hang to hit them better?
You're right there Super Étendard, I'm a little more conservative than I probably should be on the power when I'm fighting as I hate breaking an engine. The extra power would have helped a little bit in some spots for sure. I think there was a good hit from the Fw towards the end as well which caused engine damage, so running emergency could have made the situation worse.
Very nice! I wish I could fly the p39 well, they always grab me by the 6th or my engine breaks in a dogfight
It's a nice plane to fly provided you keep the speed up. The P-39 and P-40 engines are a little too sensitive for my taste so I fly them a little too conservatively, but they are fun to fly them. It's soooo satisfying when you hit something with the P-39 37mm cannon...when you do hit them they STAY hit LOL
The Air Combat Tutorial Library that’s what I love about the p39 too, you really KNOW when you get that 37mm hit, and there’s little more satisfying than to watch what it takes off ze german.
@@TheDominionOfElites Yeah the best part is you can really watch the round on it's way to the target...kachunk...1 potato, 2 potato.....BOOM!
Do you have a video on spitting enemy aircraft? Your spotting and tracking skills are phenomenal.
Thanks, there's a little bit about spotting in one of my ACM videos working as a 2 ship I think
Nice quality of contents, awesome!
I have a question for you: How did you set up your cockpit camera movements? They are looking really smooth, I am especially interested in moving around in the cockpit (leaning to the sides, moving forward, back, up, etc.. ) What kind of controls do you use for it? (Numpad, joy axis, etc) Thank you! :)
Hi László, I use a piece of equipment called "TrackIR" which allows me to do that. One piece sits on the monitor and another sits on my headset. This way my head movements give me the movement in game
Wow, thank you very much! 😊
You could do a video on team defence tactics such as the Lufberry Ring. I was flying one of 3 Blenheim on IL-2 CloD - Blitz 4.56 last week when we spotted 3 x 109's intercepting us. The flight lead immediately called for a clockwise Lufberry Ring and we kept this up until all 3 of the 109's had been shot down either by turret guns or by the forward BB gun in the left wing.
In IL-2 GB (last summer) we formed a 5 x 110 Lufberry Ring and very quickly nailed a sucker who ventured into it.
I've also witnessed, in the past on other sims, enemy player flown aircraft forming a Lufberry Ring and immediately decided stayed well from the trap.
It would be interesting to make a video covering that for sure. It would take some organising of several different players to practice and do it right though. I'm aware of the tactic, but it's not something I've really used myself.
@@RequiemsACTL It does require practice and a minimum of 3 planes. Ideal number is 5.
The circle is never tight and the diameter depends on the number of aircraft forming the points of it.
They show it in an episode of the TV show "Dogfights" with NVA Migs flying in a Lufberry Ring to attempt to trap a US fighter.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufbery_circle
acepilots.com/wwi/raoul-lufbery.jpg
What software do you use to visualize your dogfights? It's amazing. Thanks for the informational series. Really helpful!
It's called Tacview, very good program to have for review if the servers you fly on enable it. Will always work in singleplayer though
What version of TacView do you have? Advanced or standard? Thanks!
Just standard
I may have missed it, but what do you mean by jinking?
Just using the term in a very general sense when making a quick change of direction to spoil a gun solution.
@@RequiemsACTL Thank you!
just amazing, but I think in this fight there is a huge "lucky boy component" the two germans missed a lot of good occasions to close the game. by the way the defence was incredibly good
Yeah I agree completely. There were several moments where I expected to get hit harder than I was. 1 v 2 in a very inferior airplane you definitely need some luck.
@@RequiemsACTL I love your channel please continue like this becouse I think you are one of the best Aviation/sim channel in whole youtube.