Dogfighting Debriefs #9 - Ace in a Sortie (Tempest)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ต.ค. 2019
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These dogfighting debriefs are multiplayer flights analysed to illustrate maneuvers, tactics, and the decision making process. Whether you see kills or deaths is irrelevant. If there is a learning point to be had, you will see it here.
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Just wanna say i have learned almost all my BFM's (basic flight maneuver's) from watching your channel. It has made me a better pilot an i wanted to say thank you i always recommend to anyone wanting to learn how to fly in sim's to check you out but i needed to come and say thanks for all the great work you put into these vids they help us all alot.
Hey thanks! That's good to know and thank you for making others aware of my channel. I rely on word of mouth for that kind of stuff :-) Happy hunting!
Nice video as always! I was the G-14 that lost control at around 8 minutes in, nice fight, looking through your perspective you managed your gload fatigue way better than me there, informational as always, hope you shoot me down a few more times so I can star again
I'm sure the next time we meet you'll get me, I think you or another SCG got me in the previous map :-)
Nice, didn’t even realize it was being recorded. We had great coms and teamwork. Makes flying even better. Great video and great explanations of the tactics used. I had a great time flying. I was the Omin pilot:).
Just goes to show anyone can work together as long as you communicate. Great flying with you! :-)
Love the Tempest. I'm more into WW1 aircraft but the Tempest is the perfect mixture of fast, maneuverable, easy to fly, easy to manage engine and just generally enjoyable
Very insightful, thank you Requiem. These are very useful for me. I’m checking out the Tempest at the moment. Early days with it but it looks good so far.
As always fascinating!
Awesome video as always!
Absolutely can take away a lot from this
Man, I got the controls set up finally well on the stick and am having a good time in VR with this. Your videos have been a huge help.
Very nice! What did you decide to go with for a VR headset?
They did great job on Tempest, its beter then i expected it to be. Also like the new G effects, DFs are more natural now, that was missing before for me thats single best improvment they did (with vis im disapointed as 1-9km nothing changed as its still extreme hard to spot at thouse ranges, as it was before 3.201). Nice debrief as always, keep them coming.
"Boom-si-daisy."
"It's enuff ta make ya weep"
Definitely made me weep ;-)
@@RequiemsACTL it's from the Battle of Britain. Two instructors are watching a new pilot land in a spitfire or hurricane and he bounces pretty high when they have this exchange
@@GhostVanguard Yeah I know, I've seen that movie countless times! LOL
Undercarriage lever a bit sticky was it sir?
Great sortie, great teamwork, great video.
Awesome . Great defensive flying.
Thanks for the lessons..Great work.
Nice flying! You make it look so easy.
Thanks Lotevh, but now that we need to deal with the physiological effects on the pilot overall the combat flying becomes a little easier as you don't have to fly to the edge of performance envelopes anymore... you'll reach the G limit first now :-)
Great video. New to IL-2 and the Tempest. Easily my favourite Allied warbird in the game.
The Tempest is a beast but must be flown carefully to avoid blacking out
Do a barrel roll! nice flying! That plane is a beast in the proper hands.
These were really awesome maneuvers.
It' easy to follow your description if everything's like .5 timescale, but having to do the decision making in that very situation is difficult as hell.
It is hard, but if you put yourself in these situations often enough then it gets to be almost instinctual as to how you respond to end up where you want to be. So your decision process is sped up dramatically.
Great video Req! Informative as always! Those 4 20mm's really do just delete other aircraft out of the sky haha!
Yeah they really do. I mean the Tempest has about 600(?) rounds and you go through them very fast with 4 cannons lol
@@RequiemsACTL, if it's the Tempest V, it should have 200 rounds per gun, 800 total.
Yorue a god bud. I try dogfighting like you but I just cant do it as well. I watch all your videos, try all your tactics, sometimes I do well, other times I think I get suckered into low E maneuvers I shouldnt!!!
Love your stuff!! If you could, could you do some more videos on defensive maneuvering? I find myself getting bounced more and more as a lone pilot so I would love to know what works well against different types of situations. Low alt bounce, coming up from underneath, etc...
Thanks for your great videos!
Hey Nigel, I get shot down too so nothing will work all the time ;-) I'm still doing my airline upgrade Captain training at the moment, so my videos are on hold for now. The thing with defensive maneuvering is it comes down to recognising your situation and not trying to go from being immediately defensive to offensive. You need to transition from being defensive to neutral, which you'll recognise when it happens based on the bandit's position in the canopy and his energy state as he will essentially be on the other side of your turn circle, then try to become offensive if you can (it may not always be possible). I know you have likely seen all my stuff but some of what I'm talking about is in the BFM Lesson #2 about geometry (the Line of Sight Rate and Canopy position).
we need more of these!
I could make more but I like to use worthwhile sorties to learn from instead of every one I fly lol
Loved the 'boing' at the end
haha I was wondering who the first person would be to notice that...figured people don't always watch until the end so it's a little easter egg :-)
love this series! really helps me out as a newbie. Btw regarding the tempest gunsight range, is it best to leave it at default setting? or have it set to the gun convergence.
What you should do when figuring out your convergence setting is this...Just fly around and shoot at targets with icons off, but make sure you record the flight (CTRL+R). Then replay that flight and see what distance you felt comfortable shooting at and set your convergence accordingly. For me...I use around 300m for most airplanes.
As for changing convergence though...I'd recommend just setting the Tempest sight's range to whatever your convergence is set to. You will need to change the wingspan depending on the airplane though.
What server was this one on? Most don’t have icons.
This was recorded on Combat Box which doesn't display icons. I turned the icons on when I replayed the track (while recording it) so people can see the airplane and distance in these debriefs.
@@RequiemsACTL Ahh rgr. Thanks
A great watch after a lonnnnng day doing a....... Pierre Clostermann Tempest skin, as luck would have it! Cheers Req, some pretty slick shootin' going on there with those not inconsiderable Tempest guns. If you hit with them, they tend to go down, don't they?!! What I DID like was the G-14 doing 4.1-G's!!
Yeah those 20mm are brutal. One good hit and you can be sure you've done decent damage. I love this airplane :-)
@@RequiemsACTL I'm beginning to warm to it as well. It's a real 'solid platform' aint it? The ONLY thing against it is the weigh-off between the massive power and speed and the lack of G-suit, but I kind of like that in a way. Somehow a bit more 'connective'?
@@TheRaptorXX It's not a bad thing not having a G-suit...at least that way you see the effects on yourself and then you'll know if the guy chasing you is able to pull off a shot
@@RequiemsACTL That's exactly what I meant, just didn't say it quite that well!!
Excellent tutorial! Saw it many weeks ago when I started sim flying but now the subtleties in the Tacview are much more meaningful, especially because the Tempest I’d my favourite. PS , not sure where you’re rugby allegiance is, but hope you enjoyed the Trans Tasman matches (neither Reds nor Crusaders made the cut, unfortunately for my preferences).
Thanks Jammer, I haven't followed Rugby since I moved to the US. Bit harder to follow those kinds of sports here
Awesome video as always Requiem. It looks like there is an extra object behind every plane lagging in the direction of the G-force being applied. Is that our pilot I wonder? Is that something that tacview might address in an update, or is that typically when tacview is used with other sims as well?
Yeah it's a bug in the current version of Tacview. They're aware of it so it will be fixed next release...but it was either that or the Tempest displayed as a triangle in my previous version...lol
Do you use those red markers on the aircrafts to spot them easier when you play DCS or this just the replay ?
Those red markers aren't present when I'm playing multiplayer. I just include them in the replays to make the airplanes easier to see and track.
Another excellent video. Thank you again. Any chance you could do something on how to deal with the 262 ? I have been flying LA5FN and now Tempest - but I am frustrated as hell with being shot down by a plane that I never see coming. It seems (looking at replays) its a matter of seconds from a near invisible dot to guns firing.... and if I do see it and dodge it, it overshoots and vanishes in the distance in a few seconds more.
I dealt with this yesterday. Had a 109 and 262 attacking me, got rid of the 109 but the 262 was pestering me for a while but he never hit me. I was using cloud cover to break line of sight and hard turns. It doesn't take much of a turn to be out of his gun solution because the 262 flies so fast. If the 262 is above you all you can do is defend and maybe attempt a shot if he climbs in front of you. Otherwise just fly high and make sure you can be the one to get the drop on them.
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Most appreciated
@@dallas88b if you suspect 262s in the combat zone, fly just under contrail alt. This will either make the 262 climb up to you, which it doesn't really like, or he will have to ascend to contrail alt, making it far easier to suss him out and avoid him. Try not to contrail yourself, since this also gives you away.
Where do you tell tac view to look for the data for Il2? I use it for DCS but never found where to get Il2 data from
It does it automatically. You just need to change the Tacview record setting in Il-2 startup.cfg file, so whenever you record a track in-game it will create the Tacview file too.
This is great. What do tit use to turn your head when flying? Track ir, mouse, or vr?
TrackIR
Requiem your vids have got me interested in returning to playing IL2, as soon as I upgrade my graphics card. You should try doing wheel landings. I do them when landing live taildraggers. Once you get the hang of them they are easier than trying to 3 point. The trick is to fly to the runway slightly faster than normal so you get close to the runway more or less level, pitch up just enough to level off, and when you are only a couple feet up you *push* (not too hard). The mains will come down to contact and you keep a bit (just a bit) of forward stick in, which prevents the tail coming back down and bouncing you back into the air. As you slow you increase forward stick to hold the tail up, until about 2/3s full down elevator, and let the tail come down and use the remaining elevator to ease the touchdown of the tail, then stick full aft. You can see where you are going through most of the landing roll, and it looks really cool in external view.
Yeah I do wheel landings occasionally for practice. I have a couple of tutorial videos teaching them. I don't have my tailwheel endorsement...YET! I hope to see you in MP someday when you upgrade!
Hi dear instructor! Was wondering if by any chance you considered doing a tutorial for the dive recovery sytem that was added in game for a few attackers/dive bombers (Ju87,88 and pe2 from the top of my head)?
Yes indeed
Are you chopping throttle in the barrel roll? As always, well done instructional vid!
Yeah I cut the throttle to help with speed management.
nice thanks
Found you!
Awesome!!! I just don't even know how to start learning how to fly these things 😂 I struggle with spotting and ID aircraft. Any tips? Thanks, Micah
Practice. You will be a target for 1000 hours before you start to understand what is happening at any given moment. There is no substitute for hard work. Analyze your deaths, try to find out where you went wrong and why. The spotting thing is probably the hardest to get used to, we all struggle with it. As far as identifying, see if you can find aircraft silhouettes online for each aircraft and note the differences. Look at cockpit/canopy profile, wing and tail shapes, if there are radiators under the fuselage and what they look like, look at nose cowlings, and of course camo and paint schemes
@@adriangoodman8901 yeah makes sense. Gotta work to get that good outcome. I also seem to always be pulling too high G's, and often my screen starts blacking out a bit. I guess I'm just not used to the high speeds compared to RoF in the WW1 birds.
could you do a tutorial on how to make custom camos in this game? i want a desert or grey camoon my stuka.
forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/13726-quick-start-guide-to-skinning-with-gimp/
I flew this beast last night for first time God I love 4 20mm that just rip apart aircraft
You have a flight stick and head tracker ? 🙂
Yep, I have a Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and TrackIR 5
Do you use a VR headset such as Oculus or a tracking device? What do you recommend? I have nothing at the moment and have trouble following my opponents while using evasive maneuvers.
I just use TrackIR... I'd love to get VR but the cost isn't justifiable to me yet.
@@RequiemsACTLI've been looking into TrackIR and I think it'll be the route I take as well. Thank you!
Vc poderia prassar pra gente o modo que vc configura seu angulo de visão no trackir 5 ou open tracker?
forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/3625-air-combat-tutorialstir-profile-angle-off-charts-updated-1-october-2019/?do=findComment&comment=832328
@@RequiemsACTL thanks man!
Hey!!!! Dear flight master!!!! Was wondering... pretty soon a little cousin of our favorite game should be born: the Il-2 sturmovik: cliffs of dover's expansion: TOBRUK! Have you been thinking about making videos about it? All plane will be entirely clickable like in IL-2 CLOD! There will be the martlet (british f4f wildcat), the 4x20mm hurricane and some 109, F trop and G trop I think, and more! I know I'l be looking for tutorials, and yours are great!
Not sure to be honest. I played Clod and while I loved theater of Battle of Britain I just didn't get into it. Will see what happens witj their expansion
@@RequiemsACTL Is it the mutliplayer side that didnt do it for you? Also have you tried it since it became cliffs of dover blitz? It was a massive change, the team that did that huge patch saved the game at the time. It was let down and buggy as hell before that.
@@matydrum I played multiplayer for it after TF took over but just some of the graphical/UI elements turned me off it in the end
Good one, Req. Are the Enemy Pilots AI or Players?
99% of the kills you see in my videos are other players
Well, your bad landing is better than most people's good landings that I've seen on youtube. Some consolation in that I suppose but there's nothing quite like buttering the bread is there?
That's always the goal... I'm super annoyed with myself whenever I bounce a bit on a landing like that. It's kind of why I poke fun at myself with the sound effect I added lol
Do you use TrackIR or Trackhat please?
TrackIR
@@RequiemsACTL Thank you for your reply.
Boing!:7
yay another one found it :-)
can you make a tutorial on how to make skins in this game??
Not my video, but should get you started if you want a video th-cam.com/video/amN1RAuz69I/w-d-xo.html
Otherwise you can check this link out as well forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/13726-quick-start-guide-to-skinning-with-gimp/
what sim/game is this?
Il-2 Battle of Bodenplatte
What server is this please. Thanks.
Combat Box
I need you to narrate how to bake a cake....
Haha well I'd be afraid of putting people to sleep if I did that :-)
Anyone else feels, that FM got kind of wobbly lately? I had a long pause and returned to IL-2 recently and seems to me that planes are rather unstable and too happy to pull crazy amount of AoA on any impulse from receiving hit to harsh maneuvering. It feels like a leaf in the wind, something I do not remember from half a year ago. The fact that force feedback just died in my old G940 do not help this as I now lack the loss of forces on before stall.
Do you have curves set on your stick?
@@Yamdarnocnivek I have just removed them, finding it to be a bit more predictable now. But that is beside the point. I do not thing airplanes are physically able to do some stuff they now do in IL2 regardless of input (and relates to opponent's movements as well).
I used to have a G940 myself and replaced it with a Thrustmaster Warthog. There was a bit of an adjustment period for me, but the FM feels fine to me.Try and a 40% curve on your pitch/yaw and see how that feels.
@@RequiemsACTL I am thinking to check singleplayer, if it is not something caused by lag.
Controls are far too sensitive by default, you'd have to be drunk to fly as badly as default curves make it seem. Try doing what these guys said and it will make a difference, it becomes a whole new ball game when you get the control curves right.
Is this DCS world?
It's Il-2 Battle of Bodenplatte
what s game?
Il-2 Battle of Bodenplatte
Average landing! That's a good one for me.
It was just a funny ending to that sortie...not every landing is perfect so I thought it was important to show that while adding some unexpected humour into it :-)
Hi ! As always Nice video. I'm one of your French usual followers, my english is not so good and wanna ask you, without wanting to offend you in any way, if it is possible to speak more slowly and to articulate the words in your videos, please ? Because I think you have many many foreign followers. Many thanks in advance !
Thanks Zobby, I know I have plenty of ESL subscribers and I'll try my best to speak clearer
Many thks for your reply. What means ESL ?
@@zobbyirre8743 English as Second Language
The labels are great for making these videos but you don't get to use them on the servers...do you ?
No, he usually mentions marked enemies as he was unaware of them yet, etc in his vids, so I'm pretty sure he only has them in the replays. BTW, in War Thunder's "Realistic" mode, these markers are so annoying, you never know whether you can do a surprise attack on the enemy or not... Or, the game doesn't let you lock on your manually spotted target sometimes. That's so annoying in that game... Either have them always on or always off IMO. But hell, WT is still the most Il-2-like thing you can get for free (sadly?)...
The markers weren't there on his flight; he's viewing the in-game recording of his flight, which allows you to enable markers and use a 3rd-person free camera. Ctrl+R starts/stops recording, and there's an option on the main menu to view the recordings.
Not on the servers I fly on no, there are no icons at the time I'm flying. My livestreams show what I'm seeing at the time I'm flying. I turn the icons on during the replay to assist the viewer
Was this PvE?
No it's all versus other players
Tempest needs a total rework. It was one of the best fighters of the war, but no historical record mentions it to be more agile than spitfire, or even more agile than G-14, all the while being as tanky as it is in the game. It has the FM of 1946's AI at this point. at now it is the GB equivalent to 1946's I-185. it flew to the game straight from history channel at night. disgraceful to the game that is supposed to be a simulation.
Playing with tags on is ruining the pleasure...
I don't fly in any MP using icons. I keep the icons on when I record the replays so it's easier for you guys to see :-) My livestream videos show exactly what I see at the time
Improved visibility??!!
It's still terrible compare to real life and other sims. If anything it's worst than before.
There are two server settings for visibility now. Both allow for longer range spotting than we previously could (one setting more so than the other). In this server the alternate spotting was turned off though so the max ranges were shorter, but I'm leaning towards preferring the longer range spotting setting overall.