Thanks a bunch. This made up my mind. I was going for the OWC Express, but this one is 60 dollars cheaper for the same speed. I actually attach my current enclosure with thermopads to the back of the stand of my Studio Display. It keeps the drive supercool. And the stand does not heat up at all. It just gets rid of the heat. I have a Satechi drive that gets so hot that you can't touch it, but using this technique it doesn't even get a little warm. A tip for Studio Display users ;)
Nice review! UGreen just quietly released a new USB4 SSD enclosure too. I just got it and it seems well build and is getting similar speeds to the HyperDrive.
Ugreen with a crucial p3 plus nvme drive, using the cable that came with the ugreen case, and through a usb4 port on a Lenovo legion go. crystaldiskmark test - 4 test average 5/4 GiB - read: 3615 MB/s - write: 3329 MB/s - 4 test average 9/64 GiB - read: 3610 - write: 3339 3dMark benchmark with the same setup - 4 test average: 1377
Which ugreen one please (can you link or say if it's the larger one with rubber or the one with the thin orange accents (both have fans, and USB4) @@Spacer8D
@@MikeFaucher well, drives report temp from a diode, I’m sure there’s a torture test or two out there… all you have to determine is what a “reasonable” amount of time to test it for and test both at the same time so that ambient temperature is the same for both during time of testing.
So I've got this exact setup after watching this video. I'm experiencing a weird issue though.. When I first plug in the external drive and run a speed test with Black Magic or Amorphous, I'm only getting about half of the speed I'd expect. But if I eject the drive, unplug it (that's important) then plug it back in and run the tests again, I get full speeds. This is a repeatable behavior. Just unmounting the disk and remounting it in the disk utility won't fix the read/write speeds upon further testing. It has to be physically unplugged and plugged in again. I'm not sure if this is a Mac issue or a hardware issue with the external drive enclosure. Any ideas?
Wow, that is a strange one. I have never experienced this particular issue but it does not seem like it would be drive but the computer. Can you try the drive on a different computer to see if the problem follows the PC or the drive.
@@MikeFaucher so as a followup, I tested this external drive on another computer (M2) and got the same result. Slow at first then full speed after plugged in the second time. Whats extra weird is, if the drive has been off for a while and I plug it into one laptop, say the M2 it'll read/write half speeds, then when I unplug it and plug it into my primary laptop (the M1 Max I started with), it tests at full speed the first time. It's like the external drive needs to be woken up before it can perform at full speeds, regardless of what computer its plugged into. Very odd.
As the limitations are in the TB-Controller, it is more interestin how behave different NVME drives (Cacheless, Simulated Cache SLC-Cache, DDR-Cache, NVME3, NVME4) compared to the built in storage, probably testing in a real world scenario like Big video project, Big progamming Project, Big DAW Project, ... . The Benchmarks always test a synthetic situation.
Strange! I have the same 990Pro SSD with the HyperDrive running on a M1 Max and I only get about 2000 MB/s writing and 2700 MB/s reading speeds. Any idea why?
@@MikeFaucher it's connected directly to the macbook m1 max and I tried the factory cable and different ones (all 40GBs or Thunderbold 4 / USB4). I am a little confused. I run the Black Magic Speed test with 5GB stress testing on the target drive. I am happy for every help!
What would be helpful is if you'd mention exactly which cip these are using. It's probably the new ASMedia 246xxxx chip. That would b the reason why they perform the same- they've got the same guts. And why they're faster than the Acasis enclosures, which use an older chip.
What was the maximum amount of data you were able to get on it? It performs well in tests, but when you need to load 500GB of data on it, it just overheats and crashes! What kind of drive did you put in it?
@@MikeFaucher Thank you very much. It's strange that you are using the same system and you have the drive permanently connected to the system. And you don't overheat. I guess samsung is a cooler drive than kingstome in this case. Or maybe the 4TB is too warm compared to the 2TB.
I bough the HyperDrive and attached it to my MAC mini M1. I noticed that when I now put my MAC in sleep mode the power consumtion was 4.1 watts. But before I attached the HyperDrive it used to be between 0.3 and 0.6. Is ther a way to put the HyperDrive in some sort of sleep mode, or am I missing MAC settings that can put it to sleep?
Not that I am aware of. Power is need to keep the drive alive. Some drive enclosure/SSD combos may use less however if the bus goes to sleep it will disconnect the external drive and cause other issues depending on the use case. Your observation is correct and thanks for pointing that out. I have been forced to disable power savings on MACOS since using a MAC as it causes numerous networking issues on a local LAN for the same reason. In the grander scheme of things and compared to other platforms, 4.1 watts is still pretty good.
What file system you were using on the disk? With some slower drives APFS made a difference, giving clearly better result comparing to ExFAT. The question is, does the file system matter with these extremely fast enclosures? Another question is, can I expect similar results on MacBook Air (M2)?
It is rated at IP55 rating provides reliable water and dust resistance but from the drive enclosure itself and not from the silicone cover which has many holes in it.
Yes, the 990 Pro is an overkill, as for the cheapest, check the Amazon sales for the best deal. Any NVMe will be fine though you may see a 10% difference in performance. I have had good luck and performance with the WD series drives. Good luck and let us know what you end up with.
In the slides, you use GBps when I think you mean Gbps. I was told that a capital B meant Bytes and a small b meant Bytes, Thanks for the Video. I just learned today that the Thunderbolt 4 interface is the limiting factor and buying a Gen 5 Disk at 14,400 Mbs is a waste of time as they will be throttled by the port.
Am confused a bit sir! What does an "enclosure" but enclose? You inserted a Samsung Drive from a previous enclosure into the "hyperdrive". How does an enclosure affect drive speed? Am I missing something, sir?
The enclosure contains the drive controller and allot to do with the performance. Just try some of the other cheaper brands and compare them and you will see they are not created equal. Not only are they slower, but often has drop out issues and other problems. Thanks for the feedback.
@@MikeFaucher Oh! Okay, they come with dedicated / enhancement circuitry. I get it. Meaning that a Samsung SSD drive, will perform better in one Enclosure as against another. Thanks for the clarification.
I just reviewed the Acasis TBS405Plus NVMe and docking station (th-cam.com/video/50J_ng-ok9k/w-d-xo.html). If I get a change to do another with active cooling I will. Thanks for the suggestion.
Hello and thank you for the vidéos ! Very helpfull. Just got zike with Samsung 990pro 4tb. Only getting 2700Mbs read and 3100 write on the latest sonoma version on my M3 max MacBook Pro. Direct plug No hub or anything. Don’t know what could be the reason I’m not getting those speed you get 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the feedback interesting as this is the second SSD device that has been reported as being a bit slower on the new M3. I only have M1 and M2 devices.
I actually did test these with very large transfers and the handling the heat was great. This, the NewQ, and the ZikeDrive did excellent at managing heat and were the best I have tested to date. You can see my reviews on these on my channel but you will not be disappointed with either.
@@VespasianoNevio My Hyperdrive Next USB4 (with built-in Seagate FireCuda 530) is APFS-encrypted. Using a Thunderbolt 5 cable on the new Macbook Pro M4 Pro, I achieved a read/write speed of about 3.2 GB/s. The device got quite hot during testing. I didn't notice any drops when moving 282 GB. Writing took 1min24sec. The speed with the included cable was 800 MB/s read/write speed. With Thunderbolt 3 between 1.7GB/s (long cable) and 2.5GB/s (short cable). It ran best with the Thunderbolt 5 cable (1m) as described above.
@@sdan6321Thanks a lot! I think this kind of security and encryption test deserves a video. People should also be aware of VeraCrypt, but it's crucial to understand that if VeraCrypt is not used correctly, its effectiveness can drop significantly
It is a bit large but most T4/UBB4 enclosures are about the same size. Between the extra circuitry and heatsinking, they are larger. They do make a dual drive but it is a little large and of course much more expensive. Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks a bunch. This made up my mind. I was going for the OWC Express, but this one is 60 dollars cheaper for the same speed. I actually attach my current enclosure with thermopads to the back of the stand of my Studio Display. It keeps the drive supercool. And the stand does not heat up at all. It just gets rid of the heat. I have a Satechi drive that gets so hot that you can't touch it, but using this technique it doesn't even get a little warm. A tip for Studio Display users ;)
Awesome tip and great idea. Thanks for the feedback!
Nice review! UGreen just quietly released a new USB4 SSD enclosure too. I just got it and it seems well build and is getting similar speeds to the HyperDrive.
Awesome, thanks for the update about Ugreen. Working with them currently on their new NAS.
Awesome, thanks for the feedback, I will have to look at it.
What's your real world speeds with your ugreen? Try transferring 100gb to and from.
Ugreen with a crucial p3 plus nvme drive, using the cable that came with the ugreen case, and through a usb4 port on a Lenovo legion go.
crystaldiskmark test
- 4 test average 5/4 GiB
- read: 3615 MB/s
- write: 3329 MB/s
- 4 test average 9/64 GiB
- read: 3610
- write: 3339
3dMark benchmark with the same setup
- 4 test average: 1377
Which ugreen one please (can you link or say if it's the larger one with rubber or the one with the thin orange accents (both have fans, and USB4) @@Spacer8D
I am getting 3500mb/s read and write with Satechi USB4 enclosure with 4TB 990PRO inside on Thunderbolt 5 port of M4 PRO Mac Mini.
Great performance. Thanks.
I have 2 of these connected to my Mac Studio Max - love these.
I agree. Thanks for the feedback.
One additional test that would be great to do is finding out which enclosure keeps the SSD cooler as this will impact drive longevity.
Great point and tough to validate.
@@MikeFaucher well, drives report temp from a diode, I’m sure there’s a torture test or two out there… all you have to determine is what a “reasonable” amount of time to test it for and test both at the same time so that ambient temperature is the same for both during time of testing.
So I've got this exact setup after watching this video. I'm experiencing a weird issue though.. When I first plug in the external drive and run a speed test with Black Magic or Amorphous, I'm only getting about half of the speed I'd expect. But if I eject the drive, unplug it (that's important) then plug it back in and run the tests again, I get full speeds. This is a repeatable behavior. Just unmounting the disk and remounting it in the disk utility won't fix the read/write speeds upon further testing. It has to be physically unplugged and plugged in again.
I'm not sure if this is a Mac issue or a hardware issue with the external drive enclosure. Any ideas?
Wow, that is a strange one. I have never experienced this particular issue but it does not seem like it would be drive but the computer. Can you try the drive on a different computer to see if the problem follows the PC or the drive.
@@MikeFaucher I'll try that out
I should add, i'm running on an M1 Max MacBook Pro
@@Tetra84 I have both the M1 and M2 Macair and they both are fine.
@@MikeFaucher so as a followup, I tested this external drive on another computer (M2) and got the same result. Slow at first then full speed after plugged in the second time. Whats extra weird is, if the drive has been off for a while and I plug it into one laptop, say the M2 it'll read/write half speeds, then when I unplug it and plug it into my primary laptop (the M1 Max I started with), it tests at full speed the first time. It's like the external drive needs to be woken up before it can perform at full speeds, regardless of what computer its plugged into. Very odd.
As the limitations are in the TB-Controller, it is more interestin how behave different NVME drives (Cacheless, Simulated Cache SLC-Cache, DDR-Cache, NVME3, NVME4) compared to the built in storage, probably testing in a real world scenario like Big video project, Big progamming Project, Big DAW Project, ... . The Benchmarks always test a synthetic situation.
Very true but not all of these reach the TB limitations. Great point and thanks for the feedback.
Strange! I have the same 990Pro SSD with the HyperDrive running on a M1 Max and I only get about 2000 MB/s writing and 2700 MB/s reading speeds. Any idea why?
Are you running through a hub or direct to the computer? Are you using the factory cable or did you buy a longer one?
@@MikeFaucher it's connected directly to the macbook m1 max and I tried the factory cable and different ones (all 40GBs or Thunderbold 4 / USB4). I am a little confused. I run the Black Magic Speed test with 5GB stress testing on the target drive. I am happy for every help!
R u using 4TB one? I usually got slower writing speed when using >2TB SSD in TB enclosures.
USB-C? Adapter?
@@MikeFaucher it’s probably the NVMe drive itself, depending on the brand they run different speeds
What would be helpful is if you'd mention exactly which cip these are using. It's probably the new ASMedia 246xxxx chip. That would b the reason why they perform the same- they've got the same guts. And why they're faster than the Acasis enclosures, which use an older chip.
That is what the zikedrive used but the hyper did not mention it.
@@MikeFaucher if the hyper is a newer product, and gives the same performance, then it almost certainly is the ASMedia chip in there too.
@@ahgflyguy most likely
What was the maximum amount of data you were able to get on it? It performs well in tests, but when you need to load 500GB of data on it, it just overheats and crashes!
What kind of drive did you put in it?
I was doing around 300G with a few minutes between copies and did not see this. I will try a larger around when I get a chance. Thanks for the input.
@@MikeFaucher Thank you very much.
It's strange that you are using the same system and you have the drive permanently connected to the system. And you don't overheat. I guess samsung is a cooler drive than kingstome in this case. Or maybe the 4TB is too warm compared to the 2TB.
@@viktorascybulskis good question.
What's your real world numbers? For example when transferring 100GB file to and from the enclosure drive.
I will do some additional testing and let you know.
@@MikeFaucher Any luck?
@@alexdublin2673 Not yet. Have not had a chance Are you time to copy or something else?
@@MikeFaucher Yes and not getting the results in sustained real world task on win11 TB4 port (crystaldiskmark matches).
I bough the HyperDrive and attached it to my MAC mini M1. I noticed that when I now put my MAC in sleep mode the power consumtion was 4.1 watts. But before I attached the HyperDrive it used to be between 0.3 and 0.6. Is ther a way to put the HyperDrive in some sort of sleep mode, or am I missing MAC settings that can put it to sleep?
Not that I am aware of. Power is need to keep the drive alive. Some drive enclosure/SSD combos may use less however if the bus goes to sleep it will disconnect the external drive and cause other issues depending on the use case. Your observation is correct and thanks for pointing that out. I have been forced to disable power savings on MACOS since using a MAC as it causes numerous networking issues on a local LAN for the same reason. In the grander scheme of things and compared to other platforms, 4.1 watts is still pretty good.
What file system you were using on the disk? With some slower drives APFS made a difference, giving clearly better result comparing to ExFAT. The question is, does the file system matter with these extremely fast enclosures? Another question is, can I expect similar results on MacBook Air (M2)?
I used Apfs and ntfs.
Why would you want to use a silicone cover on the drive to impede heat transfer to the environment.
Good point but it is vented and helps when you handle it. Thanks for the feedback.
Hi! Thank you for the review! How hot does the case and SSD get after prolonged intensive use?
The case gets to around 118-120F after real heavy and prolonged use. Most utilities do not read the drive temp so I am not sure.
How's the waterproofing on the HyperDrive? Does the waterproofing happen with the silicon cover or in the metallic unit itself?
It is rated at IP55 rating provides reliable water and dust resistance but from the drive enclosure itself and not from the silicone cover which has many holes in it.
Look also for Jeyi TB2464 it has asmedia 2464 USB to NVME Chip far cheaper than you tested
Thanks for the feedback, I will check it out.
Which is the best and cheap ssd should I buy, considering speed throttling ,Samsung 990 pro would be an overkill right?
Yes, the 990 Pro is an overkill, as for the cheapest, check the Amazon sales for the best deal. Any NVMe will be fine though you may see a 10% difference in performance. I have had good luck and performance with the WD series drives. Good luck and let us know what you end up with.
I'd go for one of the slower 5000MB/s Gen4 NVMe drives for one of these enclosures, like the Crucial P3 Plus.
In the slides, you use GBps when I think you mean Gbps. I was told that a capital B meant Bytes and a small b meant Bytes, Thanks for the Video. I just learned today that the Thunderbolt 4 interface is the limiting factor and buying a Gen 5 Disk at 14,400 Mbs is a waste of time as they will be throttled by the port.
Thanks for pointing that out. As for the Gen 5, you are right until we get thunderbolt 5 controllers. Thanks for the feedback.
Even you had a typo. Small b means Bits, not Bytes. But evidently you got your message through.
Does it fit a WD 8TB WD_BLACK SN850X or double sided ssd in general?
Yes, double-sided drives work fine. I tried it with the Sabrent drive and did not have any issues.
Am confused a bit sir! What does an "enclosure" but enclose? You inserted a Samsung Drive from a previous enclosure into the "hyperdrive". How does an enclosure affect drive speed? Am I missing something, sir?
The enclosure contains the drive controller and allot to do with the performance. Just try some of the other cheaper brands and compare them and you will see they are not created equal. Not only are they slower, but often has drop out issues and other problems. Thanks for the feedback.
@@MikeFaucher
Oh! Okay, they come with dedicated / enhancement circuitry. I get it.
Meaning that a Samsung SSD drive, will perform better in one Enclosure as against another.
Thanks for the clarification.
There are several portable 40gbps drive bays with fans now in the market. Hopefully you can review some of them
I just reviewed the Acasis TBS405Plus NVMe and docking station (th-cam.com/video/50J_ng-ok9k/w-d-xo.html). If I get a change to do another with active cooling I will. Thanks for the suggestion.
Hello and thank you for the vidéos ! Very helpfull.
Just got zike with Samsung 990pro 4tb.
Only getting 2700Mbs read and 3100 write on the latest sonoma version on my M3 max MacBook Pro. Direct plug No hub or anything.
Don’t know what could be the reason I’m not getting those speed you get 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the feedback interesting as this is the second SSD device that has been reported as being a bit slower on the new M3. I only have M1 and M2 devices.
Are they the same controller inside?
Not sure. I do not have utility that reads the hardware controller.
Both ASM2464PD
I used the Hyperdrive with the Acer G700 M.2 2tb SSD and got 5234 W and 5112 R this enclosure seems to be capped when used with Samsung or Sabrent
I got a thunderbolt 4 cable BTW not the stock one, that seems to be a big factor
You are right about the cables but I did not have any issues with this stock one, but I certainly have before.
Great numbers, what PC or laptop where you using.
It would be interesting to see how they handle very large file transfer and heat.
I actually did test these with very large transfers and the handling the heat was great. This, the NewQ, and the ZikeDrive did excellent at managing heat and were the best I have tested to date. You can see my reviews on these on my channel but you will not be disappointed with either.
Did you have any issues opening it?
Not really but the top is a little stiff.
please check after encryption
Talking about performance?
@@MikeFaucher yes because i use apple 128 bit encryption and its nice and private and safe.. but i think the speed drops
@ I will check it out. Thanks.
@@VespasianoNevio My Hyperdrive Next USB4 (with built-in Seagate FireCuda 530) is APFS-encrypted. Using a Thunderbolt 5 cable on the new Macbook Pro M4 Pro, I achieved a read/write speed of about 3.2 GB/s. The device got quite hot during testing. I didn't notice any drops when moving 282 GB. Writing took 1min24sec. The speed with the included cable was 800 MB/s read/write speed. With Thunderbolt 3 between 1.7GB/s (long cable) and 2.5GB/s (short cable). It ran best with the Thunderbolt 5 cable (1m) as described above.
@@sdan6321Thanks a lot! I think this kind of security and encryption test deserves a video. People should also be aware of VeraCrypt, but it's crucial to understand that if VeraCrypt is not used correctly, its effectiveness can drop significantly
I had a jeyi and this hyperdrive is way more reliable, you get what you pay for
Glad to hear, and I completely agree.
And there is a valentines sale right now
Thanks for the info!
that thing is huge, why not allow 2 nvme to be installed
It is a bit large but most T4/UBB4 enclosures are about the same size. Between the extra circuitry and heatsinking, they are larger. They do make a dual drive but it is a little large and of course much more expensive. Thanks for the feedback.
Zikedrive
Yep, I am still using mine as my my daily driver but they are both really good.