How a suit feels on me is my number one priority. I’ve yet to own a full or even half canvas suit coat that feels right. I keep trying but they simply feel inhibiting. I find that body shape plays a big role in the look and feel. When you’re svelte and proportionate, the drape of a quality fused suit better contours to the body. If you don’t have that figure, a full canvas jacket has more heft to it to help even out proportions. Just my experience in 30+ years of wearing suits daily.
one key thing though, full canvas and unstructured-at-all jackets could be simply tossed into washing machine and saves you a lot of dry-cleaning bills. fused and half canvas suits, by necessities, almost always needs to be dry-cleaned. Unless You want to deliberately destroy them. ... Most of my newer suits and blazers today are unstructured. I already have good enough body by hitting the gym, no need for canvas.
Very interesting, I can't help but notice that the aversion of a fused suit has more to do with showing off one's knowledge of finer clothing than the experienced distaste for it. Obviously the worst suits are glued and the best come from bespoke tailors, but like you said German engineering is probably well capable of producing decent suits that are fused.
love the video explanation. so in your opinion, when buying a suit, there is absolutely no point of getting a full canvas since it barely even contacts the body?
given today's manufacturing standards, a credible brand selling a half canvas suit will be considerably better than a 'traveling tailor' full canvas. When buying from a credible, higher end brand, a full canvas suit will provide an old world level of quality hard to beat. With that said, even full canvas suits today will have fusing in them in order to keep the garment from looking wavy (which used to be a sign of 'hand made' but today is perceived as 'wrinkly')
Hi, in terms of breathing, humidity comfort and water/rain damage resistance - is fused/half canvas as good as full canvas? Does this layer of fuse, that i suppose is simply some syntetic, plastic-like layer, simply not stops suit to breath and be thermal and sweat comfortable? I would be surprised if layers: wool, woolen&horsehair canvas, linen canvas, rayon - breath same good when you insert synthetic fuse in between. What would contradict with Dimitry's T point that for summer linen blazers fuse is better due to weight.
Hey Dimitry. I buying a super 130 of Loro Piana Stitchied from my tailor. I wanted to confirm from you if a full canvas is worth it for this particular fabric or a fused will be alright . Thanks
absolutely right. i am a fan of Hugo Boss and i spend there firstly because of their good fit. also the fabrics and stiches and overall quality feels great. even though i know they are fused. but as you have mentioned, they are fused in a very sophisticated way and they never turn apart.
even if a suit is full canvassed, today that would have both canvas and fusing to stabilise the canvas. The '3 ways to make a suit' thing that online retailers advertise is false over simpification to build value in a lower quality product
@@dimitryt3374 I get your point. But I think the best brands still only make full canvassed suits, take a look at Brioni, Kiton, and all Savile Row bespoke tailors.
I completely disagree with the idea that full canvas will make the suit "not breathable". It depends on what the canvas is made out of- and the canvas is only in the front of the suit to begin with. Fusing may have come up in quality, but fusing also doesn't mould to your body the way canvas does.
I've been skeptical of the fuse hate for some time now. Most everything I currently have or shop for is half canvased, but I've certainly had plenty if fused over the years. Granted they were mid tier brand name suites, and ostensibly of a fair quality for their price, but I've never personally seen one of these bubbling fused suits. I wore many of them once a week or so for years, and the pants wore out long before any issue with the jackets.
Exactly. And the shocker *drum roll* - those half canvassed suits 100% have fusing in them to stabilise the canvassing. It's not so black and white :) stick to known brands and you'll get good stuff
Dimitry T for the love of god finally someone smart here to talk about this.Those people outside read few articles then think they are suit experts lol!! Fusing technique has been developed so much it’s not having bubble anymore,and plus,no matter how wonderful a suit is if you’re not cleaning it in a right way,it still gonna end up like a crap.
while this video is not a marketing video for any products rather than being an educational video for consumers, the content speaks for itself. To your point, our own collection doesn't feature any products without a floating chest-piece as that is implicit to the brand. However, without any further knowledge, the 'fused suits' you are referring to very well may be crap.
So much bad information in this! A real tailor--I'm talking about someone who can strike a pattern, cut it, and then hand-sew the garment, including the 100% horsehair canvas--will always be preferable to fusing! This dude is just selling MTM junk.
How a suit feels on me is my number one priority. I’ve yet to own a full or even half canvas suit coat that feels right. I keep trying but they simply feel inhibiting. I find that body shape plays a big role in the look and feel. When you’re svelte and proportionate, the drape of a quality fused suit better contours to the body. If you don’t have that figure, a full canvas jacket has more heft to it to help even out proportions. Just my experience in 30+ years of wearing suits daily.
Love the explanation, made it very clear!
one key thing though, full canvas and unstructured-at-all jackets could be simply tossed into washing machine and saves you a lot of dry-cleaning bills.
fused and half canvas suits, by necessities, almost always needs to be dry-cleaned. Unless You want to deliberately destroy them.
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Most of my newer suits and blazers today are unstructured. I already have good enough body by hitting the gym, no need for canvas.
Very interesting, I can't help but notice that the aversion of a fused suit has more to do with showing off one's knowledge of finer clothing than the experienced distaste for it. Obviously the worst suits are glued and the best come from bespoke tailors, but like you said German engineering is probably well capable of producing decent suits that are fused.
Sjef: Correct. It's about pretending to be an expert rather than having deep, objective knowledge of the subject. Well said!
Personally my favorite suit is a fused wool suit. Never had a problem with it
love the video explanation. so in your opinion, when buying a suit, there is absolutely no point of getting a full canvas since it barely even contacts the body?
given today's manufacturing standards, a credible brand selling a half canvas suit will be considerably better than a 'traveling tailor' full canvas. When buying from a credible, higher end brand, a full canvas suit will provide an old world level of quality hard to beat. With that said, even full canvas suits today will have fusing in them in order to keep the garment from looking wavy (which used to be a sign of 'hand made' but today is perceived as 'wrinkly')
Hi, in terms of breathing, humidity comfort and water/rain damage resistance - is fused/half canvas as good as full canvas?
Does this layer of fuse, that i suppose is simply some syntetic, plastic-like layer, simply not stops suit to breath and be thermal and sweat comfortable?
I would be surprised if layers: wool, woolen&horsehair canvas, linen canvas, rayon - breath same good when you insert synthetic fuse in between.
What would contradict with Dimitry's T point that for summer linen blazers fuse is better due to weight.
Hey Dimitry. I buying a super 130 of Loro Piana Stitchied from my tailor. I wanted to confirm from you if a full canvas is worth it for this particular fabric or a fused will be alright . Thanks
absolutely right. i am a fan of Hugo Boss and i spend there firstly because of their good fit. also the fabrics and stiches and overall quality feels great. even though i know they are fused. but as you have mentioned, they are fused in a very sophisticated way and they never turn apart.
But it seems all the top brand still only make full canvas suit.
that;'s simply not true
@@dimitryt3374 Okay, maybe not all of them, but I think most of them still only offer full canvas suit.
@@jkwhitedog once again, not accurate
even if a suit is full canvassed, today that would have both canvas and fusing to stabilise the canvas. The '3 ways to make a suit' thing that online retailers advertise is false over simpification to build value in a lower quality product
@@dimitryt3374 I get your point. But I think the best brands still only make full canvassed suits, take a look at Brioni, Kiton, and all Savile Row bespoke tailors.
I completely disagree with the idea that full canvas will make the suit "not breathable". It depends on what the canvas is made out of- and the canvas is only in the front of the suit to begin with.
Fusing may have come up in quality, but fusing also doesn't mould to your body the way canvas does.
then buy a linen summer suit in +40c weather and see how it breathes
can you explain how canvas technically mould to one's body without parroting what online tailors claim?
@@dimitryt3374In that case just go unconstructed. Fusing doesn’t really have place at higher price points
I've been skeptical of the fuse hate for some time now. Most everything I currently have or shop for is half canvased, but I've certainly had plenty if fused over the years. Granted they were mid tier brand name suites, and ostensibly of a fair quality for their price, but I've never personally seen one of these bubbling fused suits. I wore many of them once a week or so for years, and the pants wore out long before any issue with the jackets.
Exactly. And the shocker *drum roll* - those half canvassed suits 100% have fusing in them to stabilise the canvassing. It's not so black and white :) stick to known brands and you'll get good stuff
Dimitry T for the love of god finally someone smart here to talk about this.Those people outside read few articles then think they are suit experts lol!! Fusing technique has been developed so much it’s not having bubble anymore,and plus,no matter how wonderful a suit is if you’re not cleaning it in a right way,it still gonna end up like a crap.
Nice information there ty for the video
A nice way to market your fused Suits 😉 , but once again , fused Suits are crap
while this video is not a marketing video for any products rather than being an educational video for consumers, the content speaks for itself. To your point, our own collection doesn't feature any products without a floating chest-piece as that is implicit to the brand. However, without any further knowledge, the 'fused suits' you are referring to very well may be crap.
Bro said all that just to say come buy a suit from me
well put
So much bad information in this! A real tailor--I'm talking about someone who can strike a pattern, cut it, and then hand-sew the garment, including the 100% horsehair canvas--will always be preferable to fusing! This dude is just selling MTM junk.
rejected for a job with us and THIS is your reply?