Good Times | J.J. Sides With Thelma Against Their Parents | The Norman Lear Effect
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- Thelma (BernNadette Stanis) is engaged, but James and Florida (John Amos and Esther Rolle) don't take the news too well. Surprisingly, J.J. (Jimmie Walker) is the only one siding with his sister.
From Season 3, Episode 4 'Love in the Ghetto': Thelma gets engaged to Larry and is hesitant to tell her parents. When she does, Florida and James do not approve.
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JJ always came through for both Thelma and Michael when needed.
Came through? He was wrong.
True
I’m willing to bet he just wanted her gone so he could have his own room.
Yeah he had some painting 🎨 to do
The 1st time JJ was prepared to get that azz whumpin' without fear.
Right he didn't back down from pops. He was respectful..
Agreeing to disagree 😅😅😅😊
I am proud of JJ in this case.
Hahaha!!!!
Actually it's not the first time there's another time in season 1 when jj and James had a disagreement and jj moved out
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James threatened JJ to leave the house if he didn't stop painting for the guy James held a heavy grudge against.....and JJ left.
JJ was always scared shittly of his father but this is one of the few times I seen him stand his ground against James,feel confident in what he said and the points he made,and defended his sister without disrespecting anyone. He even acknowledged that his fathers points were valid because he is head of the household but still defended his sister. I thought that was beautiful.
One of the best scenes in the series.
Agree @@georgehenderson7783
JJ got into good trouble.
JJ may have been a goofball sometimes but when it came to standing up to James, he wasn’t goofy a bit and I think that even Thelma was amazed at the way her big brother stood up for her!
In this one episode. Junior was typically almost always scared stiff of James. Wouldn’t you be??
Another episode involved JJ willing to leave the Evans apartment because James had a beef with a guy (whose residence JJ stayed at) who was impressed with JJ's art skills.
After this episode James tied JJs legs in two knots
I just remember 3x really that he stood up to him...
This episode, the one with the patron, and when he eloped...
All the other times he would be hiding behind Michael and Thelma...😀😀😀
@@carolcarney1022 Don't forget JJ going in the Army.
2:48 "He betta unsay it" 😆😆..John Amos was gold!
James said Having two of you running around here lol🤣🤣🤣
Ahah ahah
JJ was too goofy, and immature. All his girlfriends used him.
@@SouthSideLadyWrightExcept TC. Yeah, He Became Mature In The Final Season. I Don't Believe Diane(Debbie allen Or Clarissa Robinson Used Him.
@1:18 Thelma you better grab him quick 😂 😂😂
LMAO! 😂😂😂😂
Which made no sense because bernadette she is beautiful!!
@@AngelHollshe is fine asf
@moneymakinbee Very True! I think it wuz the unexpected timing to take a jab & lighten the energy.
I thought this was the last time we were going to see J.J. alive.
Standing up for his sister 🔥🥰🥰🥰🥰
@2:20 Thelma and Florida's reaction and James saying "What" after what J.J. said gave me the same feeling. I applaud J.J. for sticking up for Thelma👏👏👏👏
It takes a wise parent to witness what has been taught thru word and example...if your parents say stand up for what u believe in... they do it And he did. But parents don't like to be challenged not realizing that the best road test before going out into society. If u can respectfully agree to disagree with your parents u have the backbone to stand and not back down... parents gotta remember children will disagree at times and it's ok... His thoughts and ideas were different that doesn't mean he was disrespectful. I speak from EXPERIENCE. IF U ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOICE YOUR MIND AT THE HOUSE U WILL NOT DO IT IN THE WORLD. IM JUST SAYING.... IT LEARNING THE BALANCE.. NO ONE IS A CLONE.
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@@RobetteRodgers-dq2vlvery well said
The end scene when James told
Him he was proud and gave him hug. You could see the pride in JJ’s eyes. My favorite scene.
Applaud him James was right.
Today James Evans would be considered a "BROKE DUDE" and most women would NEVER give that Brotha a shot. Yet he was a family man always grinding with character & growth
Great point... comment of the century 👏
Parents today not like Goodtimes parents they was different
He probably started out fine and they had dreams of leaving the ghetto. 3 kids later and losing jobs, long periods between jobs, things change. They got stuck.
You know that most people would have been PROUD to have a father like that! In the episode that he died in and afterwards, the true importance of his absence was felt. What we in society have now are mentally LAZY people with broke morals, broke education, and quite literally, no ambition or desire to better themselves. It just proves the old saying, "those who ignore their history are doomed to repeat it."
@@TheSecondAdam True. He was also in the wrong part of the country. He should've moved to Texas.
Man this was the era of when parents told the children "when i want your opinion I'll give it to u!"
Im sure at times JJ said to himself im glad we are just acting cause John Amos looked intimidating.
He definitely did 😂
He always seemed angry in the show!
1:05 beautiful moment between mother & daughter! 🥰 especially when Florida touches Thelma's chin: and says; "and just look at that face" 😊 So Sweet!
Ain't that awesome and loving... how a daughter needs that from at least from one parent. If not the Lord will make up the difference AMEN BE BLESSED FAM
"so, you have chosen death!"-James Evans
THERE are times that James Evans Sr. NEEDS to be taken down a peg or two. The Family Gun episode: Michael and Florida were right about James being wrong about having a gun in the house.
@@wonderwoman5732 that episode was on yesterday on Catchy Comedy.
James would never try uncle Phil like that james would get a beat down!!!
@@angholloway5091I don't think so,James is strong,he held that chair with one hand!
@@LovelyLonewolf-mc3ld Yeah James is strong. I would bet on him too. Should I say WAS strong. He's a very old, feeble man now.
I absolutely missed " James Evans" when he left the show !! I understand his point of view but J.J. makes a good point too !! Even though he was about to "Die" I was proud of J.J. for speaking his mind !! 👍
No. It's called parental approval not big brother approval.
So Proud Of JJ..❤❤
James wasn't playing with jj😂
Yes he was
JJ wasn't playing either.
When James ran up on JJ -AND- JJ DID NOT BUDGE 💪🏾💪🏾
They don't make TV shows like this anymore
No they don't. They don't exist anymore :(
Have two of you running around here? No I'd never do that 🤣
Because JJ was too goofy and immature. JJ was a headache to James.
Father figure is important, and that show is really emphasizing on that,
Very beautiful 🤩 how JJ finally showed he’s big brother side
No Dad....No Dad
Way to go jj for standing up for james
JJ should've minded his own business.
@@SouthSideLadyWright👎.
@@SouthSideLadyWright No he shouldn't have. We got to see that JJ had a brave side too.
I remember watching this episode for the first time, and J.J. came to Thelmas Defense, I'm like wow, like wasn't expecting that.
Losing john amos was tough and there went the show.
FACTS!!
Not really the show was still good. After he was fired
@@jarvasedundy1 Good, but not GREAT.
There were a few really good episodes after John Amos was fired, but the early seasons when he was there are still the best.
I love Esther Rolle
Florida seemed like she was on JJ’s side.
When James started laughing I thought he was gonna jump on JJ
Out of all the episodes I watch I remember this episodes the most. To stand up to your father when you know he is wrong, even under threat of a beating.
"No Dad!" 😂😂😂
John Amos at 3:01....classic.
Can not get no better than that.
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James looks very shocked let your child have they share.
My dad was like James Evans. I was nineteen years old, and one day, I raised my voice to my father, in public, one time too many, and he slapped the taste out of my mouth, reminded me that he was my father, and told me not to raise my voice to him again. My dad was 44, and buffed, having served years in the U.S. Army, and the Vietnam War. 🪖
A REAL man, not like these wusses of today my dad and granddads were the same way,oh and my great grands too.💪👊💥💯
that’s how it was done in our families. But most of us grew up with great morals and integrity. We also learned not to let anyone push us around. You noticed the n the end James did calm down
1:43 "I love him..." "I love him..." "I love him...."
lol, i was expecting her to look at the camera...
How many times has Thelma been engaged? At least 4 times:
1. To an old guy "Donald," whom she dumped and gave back the engagement ring, after she realized she could not say "I love you" to him.
2. This guy "Larry," the car mechanic whom she dumped because she lost interest and did not want to move with him to California.
3. A Nigerian guy "Ebe" in college with whom she wanted to move to Nigeria -- she dumped him after he could not promise her he would not take more wives.
4. Her eventual husband, "Keith."
*Any more I missed?* She was on the verge of being engaged to a jailed bigamist called "Lloyd" before JJ saved her....That girl falls in love fast!
Larry was the best looking one,in real life he married a white lady.
Her hormones were raging
@@LovelyLonewolf-mc3ld Not a surprise!
Now ain't that the truth?
That's right Thelma is easy to falling in love
I wonder how many takes they had to do that scene without laughing when James said "Alright Junior I'm going to say this one more time " 😂😂😂😂😂
James: yeah I see the ring but where's the diamond
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The fact that J.J didn’t budge showed he was ready for whatever for his sister. He believed she deserved to be happy.
The best episode in good times history
Alright JR Imma say this 1 more time lol
No pop
Wonderful actors!
But at the end James was Proud of JJ for standing up to him
I wish it showed that part.
John Amos And Jimmie Walker Like Brothers John Amos only 7 years older than Jimmie Walker in real life
7 years that's Brothers not Father and Son
Theodore Wilson Sweet Daddy Williams and Jimmie Walker like Brothers too they was only 3 years apart
@@lavellwilliams1541 Sure didn't seem like it!
JJ thought he was Bootney Lee Farnsworth talking to James like that but forgot he was actually speaking to Kansas City Mack!
😂🤣 yes 👏🏾 "Lets Do It Again"
I really liked this episode. I really liked Good Times...the first three seasons, at least.
That's what gonna happen if you keep popping them chops
😅😅😅that's a strong man protecting his family....luv me some JAMES EVANS...HOW WE NEED MORE OF THEM IN OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT🎉🎉🎉😊
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Haha
LMAO! James: no, and have 2 of you running around here? LOL
John Amos Was Always Laughing 😂
John Amos played a real dad figure for us black Americans. I really love his stern father figure.
Thank goes to many mothers that has stepped into father/son wars on different perspectives of a situation.
It seems here JJ has won the battle, daddy's laughter symbolizes of "hands up"" he has surrendered to IJ😂😂
I can't believe how John Amos was 19 years younger than Esther Rolle. Esther did look very young and John was so handsome.
Thelma's face after that first
"No Dad"
I always loved this show and the characters but I hate how Thelma whined every time she spoke.
Thelma: when are you guys gonna stop treating me like a baby?!
Florida: Baby, Baby. Trues to calm Thelma down 😂
1:45 - 1:51 Me in a pet store, looking at all the puppies 😂
My Parents names are Larry and Thelma and when they would watch this together my mom would yell at the tv "RUN THELMA RUN!" lol
What I liked about this show and some people have mentioned it already: the importance of a father figure in the home.
JJ Always did make James Laugh 😂
She's had more engagements than Elizabeth Taylor
Because she was spoiled and talked to her parents any kind of way
Because she was the only daughter bernadette is beautiful and feisty!!!
But at least Thelma stopped short of marrying all the wrong ones. 😉
@@deantodd8103Larry was right for Thelma
When your dad wants an opinion, he'll give you one.
James: See this matter is going to be decided between me and your mother.
JJ: No dad
Thelma was always "falling in love" with these one-episode brothas lol.
🤣😂🤣😂
2:28 "Well that's just what's gon happen you keep poppin them chops!" 😂😂😂😂😂
The TV shows taught lessons made laughing and had family values 🤣
Best sitcom ever♥
I loved this part.
IIRC this episode took place not long after the episode in which Thelma planned to marry an older man (played by Louis Gossett IIRC) but was not able to tell him, especially in front of the family that she loved him. Now she's able to say she loves someone. I think James should've been more understanding.
James wanted Thelma to marry a meal ticket.
@@brockreynolds870 He didn't want to marry the older man. I remember he came to like him because he was a nice guy. "You're a good guy, for someone else's daughter!" LOL I think he didn't believe Larry could provide for Thelma. I wouldn't have had a problem with them being engaged but I'd definitely be wanting them to postpone marriage until they were both out of school and had jobs. And of course Thelma needed to go to college.
James Evans later warmed up to Larry
Until he tried to take Thelma to California.
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Thelma 😍
This is the first time JJ tried his father
No room in there for a flaw. Ha!
It makes you wonder, if Thelma and Larry were married, would he stayed longer on Good Times, on would they split up or would he had been killed off like they did James ?
It's funny there was an episode when JJ's date's parents disapproved of him because he was a poor boy. James called them out on saying they were snobs. But we see James doing the same thing with Thelma telling her she gonna marry a doctor.
The debutante ball.
Papa's are always protective of the daughters whether right or wrong
Gotta love James
James my number 1 Person on there, James & JJ look alike
@3:06 Thelma looks genuinely afraid for JJ. 😅
The big brother still gets the scolding, so did my big brothers and big sister, but I'm the youngest, and I feel like I was the most raised, I was the bad boy.
Thelma was so dramatic!
And spoiled.
💯💯
I wanna see the whole episode.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Come to think of it, Thelma was engaged 3 times before she met Keith. There was Donald(the older man), Larry and Ibe.
Thumbs for J.J.!
I think this show lost a lot when John Amos left, he was the perfect father figure.
Think of the trainwreck it would be if they remade this show today....
Right 😅
It would be a disconnect. Luv this sitcom. CLASSIC 😅😅😅
Why would it need to be remade? There are more opportunities for people of all races today. Would you want to see a show about a poor white family in the ghetto?
They did remake it but it was a flop.
@@SouthSideLadyWright not a remake but it was a good times revival on ABC
James says better unsay it then that evil smile and that scary laugh true APHA MALE indeed...
I loved James
@@wally6914 True father figure of the 70s.
👍
1:43-1:51 just wondering if she loved him. Anyone knows?🤣
I think she did..😂😂😂
Sure, she thinks that money isn’t important until she’s frantically trying to pay bills because Larry won’t work.
She would have been better off with Larry instead of Keith. At least Larry owned a gas station Keith was a wife beating bum.
Thelma too spoiled and James and Florida are way too lenient on Thelma. I would've popped Thelma in her mouth, if she ever stood in my face telling me what she gonna do with her boyfriend because I disagree with her engagement to him.
Bruh JJ was right and wasn't he like 20 😂😂
Larry probably rich somewhere with multiple mechanic garages
I seriously see why people have to be negative towards fictional characters especially people today. Because I'm looking at these comments and their just outta line.
Who was scarier? James or Uncle Phil? Vote now!
Dang! How many fiances did Thelma have?! 😄
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Thelma and Larry isn’t that much different than Florida in James.
They wanted better for their kids they didn’t want to repeat the cycle.
@@Mrs.TJ516What, a cycle of love and devotion?
@@Mrs.TJ516Of course. But not letting things play out will push her even further in his arms.