WPL - C Crew. Some mods and tips. WPL C14 and C24.
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- Just a mod and tips video showing what I've done to these wpl c14 and c24s. Just my way of making them perform better while being more reliable. Hope it helps! Hit that Subscribe for more! Now go RunThatRc!
RTR C34:
www.banggood.com/custlink/Dvm...
Coupon code for 20% off:
BGC34CAR
C34 Regular kit version:
www.banggood.com/custlink/v3D...
Coupon code: BG34KRAC
Mn 99:
www.banggood.com/custlink/GD3...
Coupon code:BGRA99
Military blue RTR MN 96:
www.banggood.com/custlink/3KD...
Coupon code: BGMN96RA
Military tan RTR MN 96:
www.banggood.com/custlink/mvD...
RTR MN d90:
www.banggood.com/custlink/vmK...
Coupon code:BGRA90
Kit MN d90:
www.banggood.com/custlink/Kvv...
Coupon code: BGRA90K
MN Model mn45 kit:
www.banggood.com/custlink/GGD...
Coupon code: BGRA45
MN Model MN45 rtr:
www.banggood.com/custlink/D3K...
Coupon code: BGMNRA
My other WPLs:
WPL C24 kit:
www.banggood.com/custlink/KvG...
Coupon code: BG24KRA
WPL C14 kit:
www.banggood.com/custlink/KDK...
Coupon code: BGC24RA
WPL B36 kit:
www.banggood.com/custlink/vvD...
Coupon code: BGB36RA
WPL B16 kit:
www.banggood.com/custlink/DDv...
Coupon code: BGW16RA
WPL B24zh RTR:
www.banggood.com/custlink/KGm...
Coupon code: BGZHRA
WPL B24 kit:
www.banggood.com/custlink/mmv...
Coupon code: BGB24RA - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Tried doing the stock steering link mod by heating the plastic to straighten it to remove bump steer and it worked great. thanks for the tips.
Glad it helped!
great video . Allot of information, and it is great to know that WPL actually has those upgrades
Thanks I appreciate it! I'm also glad they make upgrades because I like running these things!
That tire modification makes them look like mini super swampers. Dope😎
These trucks are for more experienced RC hobbyist. If you like to cut and create your own designs this is perfect for you. Me I love building I think most of the fun is building the RC and seeing what kind of power house you can build great video
yes definitely for more experienced thinkerers for sure. Great fun!
I just got my first RC crawler wpl c14 and I am excited that I can modify it to make it better and how easy it was to get into this hobby.
I have always been into rc in one form or another but these WPLs got me diving back into the hobby!
Very interesting. I need to check into those a little more. Thanks.
Thank you for the help on the bump steer very very helpful
Glad i can help. Now go RunThatRc!
Great tips thank for sharing that I was wondering about the steering I thought that I just hadn’t installed it properly
Thanks for watching! Glad I could help. With some tinkering these rigs are nice and affordable for anyone to get into building RCs.
Nice Thank you. Interesting mods.
Pretty sweet little fleet there! I like the motor sock idea and will probably do that one for sure. 2 speed with radio/receiver, softer tires, suspension and metal chassis parts already going on my C24 that's on the way. I already know it's going to be one of my favorites.
I am a sucker for water runs 😄. The sock trick helps a lot and keeps these motors going. I can't wait for the next water run sesh! Happy modding brotha!
I just picked one of these up since it seems to be a good middle ground starter truck. I've had Losi 1/24 crawlers before but their batteries are junk. I still have a couple of them and will maybe mod them. This truck however is awesome! I really like the 2 speed, rear wheel drive type thing he mentioned in this video. I may pick another one up and give it a try.
Thanks for sharing your free mods they're great!!
glad it helped!
Thx u so much I was wearied about the plastic breaking now I now to get better parts and I left with some nice tips and tricks
Nice! Thanks for stopping by! They are fun when setup right.
Thanks for tips! Could you share the link of softer tires please? I’ll like to improve crawling...
beautiful C24-1 and C14
Good informative video subbed
Much appreciated
I've decided that I don't like the kits to mount directly to the axle. So, I'm going to 3d print one that works the best possible. Zero bump steer, nice positive steering, especially 4wst.
Did you make it? If so please upload the file on thingiverse
if you want, you can get some portal axle for your wpl im actually running on those they work great and have metal gears
Nice colection my friend. I wish i can have a nice colection like you have... 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Great builds
Thanks! They are fun to mess with.
You got a video on your blue truck and it's lift and parts? I love how soft that suspension is on that one! Way better than stock.
I will be putting together a video on the details of that rig soon. But the shocks are still the stock ones just kept running penetrating oil down the shock shaft over time it got better and softer. The lift is like a block kit onto the axle where the shocks and 4 link connect and I didn't thread the shocks all the way for a little more lift. I'll get that vid up soon hopefully.
Upgrades?! All metal coming soon for my WPL
Nice!
Yo me rompía la cabeza solucionando este problema . Thank you for your tips
glad it helped!
bump steer even less attaching to passenger side with a longer steering rod, with some L in it, bump steer nearly zero. have had really good luck with plastic bevel gears, they do have to be pulled apart all the way, CA bevel pinion to shaft and pressed on all the way first, then shims behind both input cover bushings (paper punch and thin cardboard CA'd in, then drilled through after), with the plastic U-joint going on last, as tight as possible without binding. newer kits have the brass bevel pinion, is *much* nicer, even with plastic ring gear.
repeating myself a little, haha, oh well! the stock rim slice and splice, really nice!
described in a more recent video, looks good painted silver chrome on C-24.
Super 👍
WPL-C🤩✨
Next:
Brushless upgrade with metal drag link and 3" tires, please
I may try another brushless. I do have a d90 mn model with a 4500kv motor attached to the wpl 2 speed gearbox. It's one of my first tiny rigs.
As for your shelf truck
RED BEAUTY in my opinion add some Sporter rims a couple touch of chrome and put her on a mirrored turn table with a couple LED lights to show off your steel drive shafts and stuff
Not sure why im not getting my comment notifications. Sorry for late reply. Yeah i would love to do something like that one day.
@@RunThatRC it was only two days I'd say a timely manner most of the time I don't get a reply
I’m waiting for my WPL C24 to come in. I’m completely new to this game but it seemed like a cheap way to get into it plus they are cheap to upgrade! I’m looking forward to it.
You will enjoy it! Also these WPLs teach you a lot about the hobby without breaking the bank. Hope you enjoy yours!
@@RunThatRC thanks man! Should be here any day now.👍🏻👍🏻
What to use as widening axles
Did you cut the middle treds as well, or just the side ones, because cutting the middle (small) ones actually gave me even more grip but you can't cut all the small ones in the middle
I've done it both ways. I cut several tires up in different ways. Makes the tires perform better for sure.
Great information! Do you recommend using oil-filled shocks in WPL trucks or they are too lightweight for them? Thanks!
some have had oil shocks work with modified suspension setups. I personally keep mine stock and just use penetrating oil on the springs to help them move around inside the plastic body and stay rust free.
@@RunThatRC Thank you Sir :)
where did you get those sick stickers? like the sun blocker sticker on the c14
Its actually just part of a car wrap and a proline sticker from my 10th scale 4runner proline body. Just made it look like a visor sticker. The hoods on 2 of them are wrapped in carbon fiber look vinyl wrap.
The mod about flipping the steering link in the front of the truck to help with the truck tilt during going over a bump is wrong, you need the metal upgrades for the axle. I am currently trying to do this and you wont be able to put it on top on the same side as the link to the servo as there is no where to mount it unless you just get a longer screw but that seems unstable!
Gang WPL YEAHH 👍
I can sit and stare at them all day! Hahaha
Haha👍
have had no problem with the plastic bevel gears, after shimming *behind* both bushings of the short input shaft. carefully pry shaft out of the small bevel gear. use a one hole paper punch for thin cardboard. use the bushings to press them down into place, then CA them. next is CA the bushings in place, then use a 3 mm drill bit to make the center hole through the bits of cardboard. with very long jawed needle nose pliers, carefully press the small bevel gear back onto the shaft. the shim behind the inside one is making tighter mesh of the plastic bevel gears, both bushings further apart the short shaft wobbles much less.
best to do as you're assembling it right out the gate, but you can do it after, it's only 4 screws.
if you have ball links and M3 threaded rod, whip up a steering link to hit over to the passenger/right side takes out even more bump steer, shrink tubing can hide the exposed threaded rod, a little nicer looking than throwing paint at it.
That's good advice! I did all those. Even went as far as buying metal shims that fit there. Unfortunately for me I must abuse these things. A buddy and I have no Iuck with the plastic ring gear. They do last a lot longer for us after shimming but eventually strips. I have had multiple runs with my blue c24(modded from the start with metal gears) seems to have done the trick for me! I am glad that the shimming works for some! Great tips brother!🤙
Maybe the plastic gears get too hot in mine? I take it on long 3 to 6 mile hikes. Back to back battery change and no resting in between.
lol naaw, that falls under heavy use and abuse! with plastics you DO have to back off the throttle as quick as the wheels start hammering, back up and alter your approach a little or you can shred them. it's usually the little bevel gear shredded for turning 2.3x per wheel turn.
what did you do to not have a bed on them
Not much upgrade actually... It's just basic and simple upgrade. this video is good for beginner.. 👍
Hi, nice WPL‘s. Could you post a link to the full metal upgrade?! Thx so much!!!
Original OP metal parts upgrade with driveshafts:
www.banggood.com/custlink/vGGK9J42zy
Wpl original 2 speed with 370 motor:
www.banggood.com/custlink/mKDD8paQh7
RunThatRC got one on amazon, that was shipped way faster. But thx for inspiration!
You try maybe change suspension? i bought " metal shocks absorber " but when i mount , they are very stiff - spring inside is very hard to pump ;/ i saw many ppl change for some oil shock but i cant find any 61-65mm with oil for 2,5-3mm hole ;c
I have not purchased any upgrade suspension at the moment. I find them ok for what they are used for. In the future i might try some oil shocks. wpl might be coming out with new oil filled shocks.
What esc would you recommend for the c14? I have a 370 2 speed and can’t seem to find a reliable esc? I Had 2 burn up in the same day…
Hobbywing 1060 would be your best bet for price and reliability. Hobbywing 1080 is my go to esc now a days they even have a v2 now.
What engine do you have in them the 180? Also what truck do you like better the c24 or c14
2 with the 180 and the blue one has a 370 with 2 speed. The white one was brushless but is waiting to be completed as a different project. I like both but performance I'd say C14 because of better departure angles. And less top heavy for less rollovers.
Fery good👍
Thanks! 😃
Where can I find wheels for these lil trucks? I have a ton of 1/10 scale crawlers like Scx10.2, Toyzuki, Elementals etc. I hardly have a stock part on most of my stuff but the one major thing I always do first is wheels, I have a MN-45 coming soon and would love to customize it to my liking. I’m also going to order the c14 and a few other lil guys to mess with too. I’ve already got a Holmes Hobbies 380 revolver and Castle Creations sidewinder mini I wanna try out too.
high end electronics on a budget truck ey! Like my d90 with excelorin brushless motor and mamba 25a esc. These little suckers are fun. Banggood and ebay has some wheels for these. If your into or know someone that has a 3d printer you can print some pretty cool wheel and accessories for these rigs.
Run That RC I figured my best bet was 3D Printing. Lol yeah high end electronics are always the best way for me to go lol. Thanks man I appreciate you taking the time to reach out and help point a newb in the right direction. 👍🏻
The c14 comes with the wheel tool?
What is the range of the c14 estimated?
In your opinion, c24 is better?
c14 and c24 are exactly alike just a different back end. The range varies depending on your electronics. I'm running kits at the moment so im using my flysky or hobbyporter and also the V2 and V3 electronics that have good range as well. I should have a New verion rtr soon on my channel.
hi sir, how can you achive the full steering angle for c24? my wheel hits the fender and suspension link
I use a flysky or hobbyporter transmitter for most my builds and can turn down and adjust throw in each direction. When you have the wpl transmitter you can't adjust endpoints so you would need to make sure you get equal steering throw left to right then you may need to move the steering link further up the steering horn to get less throw. hope that helps
What's the difference between the c14 and the c24 other then exterior looks?
thats it. just the bed is different.
are there any narror wheels for those? i am thinking of building a 1:12 (11) pinzgauer but the wheels are way to wide for my taste ..
the c34 and 44 wheel are narrower but taller by a little bit.
@@RunThatRC awesome thanks!
What suspension do you have on the blue one?
they are all running stock suspension.
Do you think the C24 bumper would fit on the B24? I don't like how far the B24s bumper sticks out and I'm looking for an alternate solution.
Probably can mod it but the cab is actually connected to that bumper assembly for the tilt cab over.
I left off the bumper it works fine . Actually makes it easier to install the cab and it's pivot into the frame rail. I may make a custom bumper, just was wondering if something off another WPL model would work, since they're pretty much all the same. I still want to protect the cab, but leaving the factory bumper off raised the approach angle a lot!
With some fabrication it could work
What solution did you apply to overcome the use of the plastic links with the metal base? I'm having issues trying to fit metal links with the 2speed gearbox. Thanks dude!✌
You need to take (cut off) the end tabs from the plastic truss that the links slide on to and use it with the metal truss. I also lifted the gearbox and that seems to get the shift link out of the way.
@@RunThatRC I got the links perfect thanks man! I have lifted the gearbox up with some custom plates, what parts exactly did you have to dremel away on the cab to get it to fit back on?
I show it here.
th-cam.com/video/1kdoxFBnsUo/w-d-xo.html
@@RunThatRC thanks man! I've got the c14km and it looks like my trim point my be different on the c14 😥
@@blakesosebee9793 not sure what you mean? Is the km kit body made different?
do you think foam or wheel weight are necessary?
if you have a lot of steep trails and climbs wheel weights is a must due to them beimg hard bodies.
Hi I need some advice for my wpl c24.I would like to buy a new engine powerful enough what do you recommend.thank you bye
If you haven't tried the 2 speed with 370 motor you need to give yhat a shot. It's my go to system for my wpls and mn models.
How much better is the 370 motor over 180 or 130?
if you have a newer kit with the lower ratio tan colored gearbox and 180 motor you're pretty well set for climbing steep
nice video i have 3.
Thanks for the support! They are fun little things aren't they!
Did u cut the knobs off with a box cutter?
I used flush cutter pliers.
Sir which type of paint use for body shells
I don't really paint my trucks. I should but im lazy lol. I experimented with Plastidip on one truck(the gray one). Ended up looking ok.
Is there any transmission and motor upgrades? I'm seriously considering getting this truck.
plenty of options and ways to go about building these things. If you never tried modding and want to... This is the cheapest way to explore custom Rcing!
@@RunThatRC I've done a couple of Tamiya rc's so doing a kit build isn't a problem dut finding upgrades or parts for them is a pain in the ass. I was just wondering what kind of options are available and if its worth it.
I have the WPL truck but the battery dies fast asf on it tho
What truck and what battery are you using?
Just orded o e 😆👍👍👍👍👍👍
nice! Hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy WPL RCs.
Can you do a mod like a rock racer type? For crawling and high speed for racing? The problem for high speed is that the car will roll due to top heavy... how about give it a try thanks
I have a mn model that I used a brushless system in and it wasnt that fast but it would tend to roll at faster speeds. You would need a open diff to make the truck handle better.
@@RunThatRC As I analyze the chassis of this it is due to the chassis design in which the girder is almost straight so maybe a customized girder can help reposition the links and axles for more like ultra4 truck style
Hey man my motor seems to keep coming loose and it gets hot I was wondering if you would know why? I upgraded the battery once it was out the box but now it comes loose I tighten everything down not sure how or why it gets loose
hi there, not sure what your setup is. It definitely would help get you the right answer. Is it a stock RTR or a kit or even a KM kit? If its a RTR then you have the original gearbox with 180 motor. That setup does get warm slow crawling. When they heat up the motor mount housing warps and the motor will slip out. I like to place a piece of thin cardboard to wedge the motor to the gearbox or you can even glue it. I always recommend upgrading these for more performance. They get a lot more capable and fun for sure but still fun stock with limits obviously.
@@RunThatRC that was my thought exactly that the plastic housing would get warm and the motor would get loose
I have the rtr version
@@RunThatRC what motor would you recommend for a crawling upgrade?
how to raise wpl c24 raise 2 speed transmission for ground clearence
you can use a piece or metal or plastic. I use lexan and just remount the gearbox higher up with it.
what is the name of that red one was that c14?
yes its a C14 kit.
What's the 36$ metal upgrade your talking about?
its the metal upgrade kit for the axles and driveshafts. the prices have changed since i made this video so look around for deals. You can also opt for the KM kits available on the WPL-RC.com official store.
How do I lower the C24? Can I cut the spring coz it's too high
you can cut the springs just make sure to cut a little at a time and test it.
which is the best for you?
these 4 are physically the same underneath so just choose the style you like and build it up to your liking! Each truck has its own purpose.
What do you do for shocks?
I use the stock shocks. They perform better when sprayed with penetrating oil and run it for a couple runs. It will get nice and soft and work ok that way. I have no experience with installing aftermarket shocks on these sorry.
were can u get theses upgrades
They are available on ebay, amazon, banggood and other sites. search wpl upgrades and you should find a few.
bro all the red ones are hard to find it seems. all the vendors seem sketchy af and im getting irritated putting a cart together for a full build. can someone please help me?!
I tend to purchase from banggood.com. usually a good deal and if you search on Google for coupon codes you can find some sort of discount most times.
Would you guys recommend buying from banggood?
I personally have been for years and have had some minor issues with damaged package and one lost package. Banggood has always taken care of my issues thats why I really don't have a problem purchasing from them. Also patience because sometimes it takes forever for shipping.
Now what about the servo?
These all have the stock kit servo they come with. Plastidiped for waterproofing
Really cool well I just got mine in the mail yesterday ready to run version and I painted it lol not that good at painting through but I posted it on my page
What exactly are the differences of the c14 and c24?
C14 and C24 are basically the same. just different rear ends. the c14 will be less top and back heavy than the c24 with the bed and camper shell on it.
Also, the C24 is based on a 1979-1981 Toyota Hilux (pickup truck) which has round headlights and 4 openings in the grille. The C14 is a later truck, about 1982-1983 with rectangular headlights and 6 openings in the grille. After that, the bodies were redesigned for 1984 and up.
Rtr is waterproof ?
no unfortunately its not waterproof out the box. I have a couple waterproofing vids that work well for these.
What shocks?
I use the stock shocks on my rigs. I think once broken in they are giod enough for these tiny rigs. I may try to find some oil filled shocks one day.
I have one of them, and they are fragile ass....even modding them can be a challenge because the tolerance on machined metal parts arent that great. There is always something that isnt right with one part or two with after market stuff. I have a two speed 180 motor i think and the torque at low gear is so strong, even the metal drive train can come apart. Maybe need some thread lock glue.
My personal experience has been better than others so far. I build the kits usually and have had little to no trouble in setting up gear mesh and parts assembly is usually done with minimal tinkering. I do remember building my first C24 and thinking this isnt going to last long. But the driveshafts where the only things i managed to break, but sometimes breaking a shaft also strips the trans gears. So now WPL does the KM line with all the upgrades you need for a solid rig included. Can't wait for the WPL official site to be back up!
@@RunThatRC I meant 370 motor, not 180. Mine was kit too, but every time I fix it up, i pass it to my kid to test it, 3 mins, he comes back and tell me the tires came off, the drive shaft came off, the steering shaft came off, etc left side to right side to rear right to rear left. Waiting for the loctite to come and hope it will fix my problems. Maybe I should check WPL's site too when it's up.
Dude how tf do you fix the steering angle
whats your electronics setup? Are you not getting full steering lock? Not sure what your referring to exactly, fixing the angle?
@RunThatRC yes I was not getting full steering lock. Tried other 17g servos & still didn't. But I just 3d printed a new tray that fits 20kg servo last night & best upgrade yet
whats that intro song?
Chase by The brothers records. It's on TH-cam's music list
How much does the battery last
depending on what battery and what terrain your on can greatly vary your runtime. I use anything from 500mah to 1500mah 2s on my rigs and get 15 to 45 min runtimes.
@@RunThatRC thanks for answering
@@unknown.58 no problem!
I subbed and appreciate one back. I wish you could make a video on your electronics in this truck. Thanks
I have a couple videos explaining what I used but I may try to make a video on how I stuffed all the electronics in the truck.
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Thanks for the sub!
I need help ?🤦🏾♂️Im not good at all with working on my c24
this channel, Gabriel Silvaz, and HobbyDaddy, have some great info videos.
What are you need help with bro? Let me know and I will try and see if I have a solution.
Run that rc not shelf queen 😂