Interesting. I am trying to learn everything I can about this mechanism. I know this video is a few months old. I wonder if you could address the recent data coming out that shows these vaccines are not staying near the injection site, meaning they are not picked up just by muscle cells. Instead, they are getting into the blood and in many cases concentrating in the spleen, the liver, the bone marrow, the adrenal glands, the ovaries and crossing the blood/brain barrier into brain cells among other places. They are getting into breast milk and being transferred to infants. I don't have the information about the actual concentrations at this time, but I am trying not to form a biased conclusion either way. Is it possible there are non muscle cells that might be less restrictive in terms of allowing the protein to escape outside the cell? I am not convinced yet that there is not an overlooked mechanism that might allow these spiked proteins to become abundant and freely available in the body, and that this might be the reason for so many adverse reactions. Before allowing an injection, I want to have much more information than it seems most doctors are willing to provide. But I really don't like feeling pressured like this to make a decision without both sides of the argument and with inadequate information.
It is best to view, hear the SUPPOSEDLY defamed sources wrongfully discredited. Research well by listening to more than the supposedly reliable sources.
I’m right at the same situation... Being pressured to take the vaccine in a few days and going crazy trying to find these answers before then. It seems to still be unkown or not yet openly disclosed.
@@Sonia-zq9ek Say "no." You can always change your mind later. Remember high-pressure salesmen use the technique of putting scarcity in your mind. You think that if you miss this opportunity "in a few days" to take the vaccine, you will never be able to get it. That is nonsense. Take your time to do your own research and satisfy yourself that you have made the right decision, whichever that might be.
If the spike proteins (that haven't been crushed) and mrna, can escape the perforins and granzymes "hand granade" destruction, how do we know that they can't escape the Neutrophil or Dendritic cells, when they too are destroyed after presenting spike protein. Thanks
Imagine getting infected with covid while the mRNA and spike proteins are still in your system? And these ppl would like us to believe the unvaccinated are the source of the variants? Lmao
Also- if you have other health issues or predispositions- what will this spike protein do(?) Dr Ryan Cole - who you can look up here talks of Spike Protein amplifying and “bringing out” latent virus and other health issues.. Is this possible?
1894...Isolation in culture and microscopic description of causative bacteria 1898....Flea-borne transmission 1896...Usefulness of antiserum for therapy 1897...First vaccine consisting of heat-killed bacteria developed and tested. 1900-1909....Six million deaths in India.
It’s not seen it’s calculated at a chemical/molecular level. Biologists just talk in “stories” of averages, what typically happens. I’m pretty sure we don’t have calculations for the synthetic replacements to the components of these interactions at this point. So this whole dang biology story he’s telling is pretty much hypothetical based on the interactions of natural components. We all need deeper information, but no one would understand it. “Trust The “Science””.
Under normal conditions our cells express MHC I along with cytosolic peptide fragments that are naturally produced. This allows our immune cells to recognize our self-cells as "self" and not attack it. However, if our non-immune cells (i.e. muscle in this video) is presenting spike protein fragments (albeit non-functional) which is not normally produced, wouldn't this effectively be recognized by our immune cells as "non-self" and therefore result in "auto"immune response?
There has been talk that the antibodies produced by the spike protein have been noted to damage organ tissue like heart and kidney. Can you please speak on this?
@@Michael-4 what does that even mean. mRNA is a naturally occurring molecule. You mean mRNA vaccines? And who would be this "creator"? Surely, you can provide a link that supports the claim and not just random assertions?
@@hotpotato3311 the thing is, there is hardly ever one single inventor that everyone agrees on for any technology. So there is no guarantee that I will find the person the commenter is referring to when I Google this. So I'm already guessing and we haven't even gotten close to any information that has to do with spike protein antibodies damaging kidneys or hearts. I have no interest in playing guessing games and fishing in the dark. If you make a claim and people ask you for a source to back up that claim, you provide a source and not just more random and barely usable information. There is a reason why scientific publications have extensive lists of citations at the end and not just the sentence "Google it".
I would provide the whole interview (as the link I've provided is just a clip), but TH-cam took down the entire conversation because apparently, it's against TH-cam policy to have the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology provide a cautionary message on using this type of vaccine. I'm not on one side or the other but I want to provide people who are cautious about getting the vaccine as much information as possible. I research important medical information on both sides but I only hear one side of the argument on major platforms so I encourage people to learn as much as possible and figure out what option (getting vaccinated versus not vaccinated) has the least risk for your age group. I encourage everyone to research Dr. Malone to learn more about mRNA vaccine technology to make the best informed decision for you!
Isn’t the gene material still in the vein of the brain which can get into another cell to create anther spike causing it to damage a blood cell causing a blood clot in the brain?
How are you feeling about the vaccines now, that the spike proteins are being found throughout the body, especially in the ovaries by scientists worldwide ? What are your thoughts on this and the fact it is causing devastating side effects or death ?
Dark horse podcqst. Multiple Dr's on there discussing their findings. Also literature from Japan also studies found the same issue. Spuke proteins in ovaries and organs
@@kandikaye4405 Look at the actual study. The amount of mRNA vaccine found in the ovaries and most other parts of the body was less than 0.1%. The vast majority of the injected amount remained at the injection site. A bunch also ended up in the kidneys and livers where it gets cleared from the body which is exactly what the function of those organs is. Yet all you hear is people screaming in panic "the vaccine ends up in the ovaries" without any sense. What do you think happens with the spike protein when you get infected with the virus?
@@lewisphillips7223 I'm not giving you medical advice, I'm just responding to bullshit misinformation. People claiming that the vaccine "accumulates" in the ovaries without any idea of what they're talking about. You just saw a photo on facebook with no context, no explanation and now people are all up in arms with 0 understanding of what's going on.
do you ever answer any questions here? please explain why vaccinated people have also reported aches and pains throughout their body, with presumably other tissues than just the deltoid muscle and connective tissue.
Latest study shows spike protein is involved in the endothelial damage. The truth is nobody knows what are the ramifications of having a synthetic viral rna in a hosts body. The significant number of deaths from vaccination is concerning too.
What i see here is juist an assumption that it wil only go this way. What actually also can happen is putting the person in a constant inflamation which can cause autoimmune disease in the long run.
no one knows, not even the scientific team who created/engineered the vax. one can only postulate and hope. but it is wise to consider all scenarios so one can atleast 'be prepared' as much as possible
The scenario that Geert Vanden Bossche spells out is truly horrifying. Take a listen if you dare. Top it off with a podcast featuring Dr. Yeadon, former VP of Pfizer respiratory RnD.
Adreno crisis in the making. Common sense says foreign bodies that are not suppose to be there activate an immune response. The body attacks itself. Not everyone has the exact same response but there are common reactions in a mass population. The effects now are just the beginning. When the next mass deaths occur you cannot blame the unvaccinated. The signs are there telling the truth. The scheme is up and the people are seeing the truth. It was pushed too hard, too fast, too soon to not be obvious. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Just as in the days of the spanish flu.
This is all so disturbing. How come they never discovered the spike protein travels throughout the body in testing? This is a crime! This is mass murder!
If you're more worried about a tiny, tiny amount of spike protein from the vaccine than the way larger amount of spike protein from an actual infection, you've been successfully brainwashed by conspiracy theorists.
@@genetherapy666 Except it isn't. That's just complete bullshit that has been spread by anti-vax conspiracy theorists. If it were the case that the mRNA of the vaccine gets integrated into your genome (which it isn't), you'd get the same effect but worse from an actual infection. If you're infected, there is viral RNA (or worse, DNA, depending on the virus) everywhere. This is not just true for corona but for every virus everywhere. In fact this is true for bacterial infections as well. Your body is constantly bombarded with foreign genetic material from pathogens and it doesn't generally end up in your own DNA. Your cells don't have the right enzymes to make that happen. Stop spreading bullshit lies and fear-mongering.
Thanks Dr Been. I would love you to clarify one thing because I am not sure if I understood it right even though you said there are no Spike Proteins leaking out of the cells just like that. When you explained the process how a spike protein (respectively thousands?!) is formed in i.e. a muscle cell it gets shattered. Those little pieces are being transferred out overtaken by another cell which destroys the cell which formed the spike proteins and sets the other spike proteins free. So at some point there are "out", right?! ...at least until they get absorbed or bind by other cells.
17:15 You said this is exactly how our system behaves when we have cancer. People die from cancer! Which tells me that this system isn't the greatest at controlling foreign particles and keeping them from doing damage. 🤔 A response would be nice.
Thank you. This was very simple to understand 😊 can the protein effect the blood. I am O Negative blood group and have a good immune system. I looked at a video that said my blood group are very rare in getting covid-19 and if they do they get well quickly. Why would I take something that might mess up my system? Can you please help me to understand. Sandy 😊
The O group has the lowest chances of getting covid, you aren't immune to getting covid...having a good immune system won't matter. Its like saying "I do lots of sit ups, will that help against getting hit by a pickup truck?" You either win he fight or you lose, plus 20% of the winners ("healthy" people) are getting long lasting illness. Why would you take a chance?
@@peterlohnes1 Your analogy is way off. No correlation whatsoever between situps and getting hit or runover by a car. Immune system vs virus .... house vs fire .... boat vs water. Strengthening the first factor builds up defense against the damaging effects of the second, or ideally prevents it completely by sustained maintainence.
@@peterlohnes1 that's a pretty ridiculous proposition. Your basically claiming that the Milieu has no effect on your immunity. You might as well take all the drugs in the world if you have this little trust in your own biological functions. See how that turns out.
Thanks for the detailed explanation. How does the muscle cell know the protein it is translating from the mRNA is foreign and has to be broken down in the proteosome and presented on MHC-I? If the mRNA is recognized as foreign, why is it translated at all? Might there be a problem if the vaccine implanted mRNA is very similar to nucleic acids of the self? Is it?
Now the mRNA is modified to inhibit intracellular immune sensing, so it may not be recognized as foreign. Why then does the cell destroy the translated proteins? After all it makes proteins for itself and does not destroy them and present them on MHC-I?
Cells present all sorts of proteins (and other molecules) from inside the cell on their surface. This is true for endogenous proteins (proteins which occur normally in the healthy cell) as well as foreign proteins. The presenting doesn't know or care whether it presents foreign antigens or endogenous molecules. It is the cells of the immune system which recognize the foreign structures present on a cell surface and trigger the immune response.
This is like asking "Well, how do we know the immune system works?" This is why my patience for "the vaccine skeptic" community is VERY thin. You people have absolutely no idea the vast body of knowledge we have built these vaccines on, you are literally question whether the immune system can actual function.
Excellent explanation! Thank you! Could you please explain if the process will be the same if the actual spike proteins are going to be injected in us via Nanovax vaccine?
Very interesting presentation. I don't see how the messenger RNA shot is even going to work given that the immune system is going to work on fragments of the spike protein. What you showed was extremely complicated and I'm sure not complete. We were in the middle of an experiment and many of the thoughts that you brought up need to be further understood and validated. I hope you're right that this is going to be a safe vaccination process although I have my doubts. I'll stick with Zinc, hydroxychloroquine, invermectin, infused antibodies if I get sick. I'm not interested in being an experimental subject.
Despite the 31:55 lecture on how the jab will not hurt you , I personally have seen 3 formerly healthy Human Beings take the jab x2 and are now DEAD, 2 of them died within 48 hours ! So, I am going with real life experiences and not lectures from anyone !
So how can the body produce high amount of antibodies against the spike protein if none of it produced inside the cell survives and presents on cell surface , except only small broken fragments ?
What do you think the mechanism whereby some young men are getting myocarditis after the mRna vaccine? Could this be due to free Spike proteins, after vaccination, that are deposited in certain organs?
The greater possibility is that the lipid nano particles went from the vaccination site to the blood stream, thus passing through the heart muscle which pumps blood. If they entered the heart tissue, it is logical that an inflammation of the heart tissues can develop on some vaccinated people, just like corona does when it enters your blood stream...
Has been proven that S1 label with I 125 can cross BBB in mice and cause neuroinflamation. Virus and vaccines are producing S. Important subjects in pathogenesis caused by Virus. How much S (picograms/microliter) is produced by diferent ages of vaccinated peapol????
It seems that in some people the spike proteins are staying in place in the shoulder and in others they come loose and circulate right through the body . When the spike says in place there are few side effects. When they circulate they effect all parts of the body , brain , heart ,all of it.
We must start checking for levels of S S 1 and S 2. In blood specially in adverse events and also in MISAand MiSC cases... Mount Sinain researchers have proven antigenemia, leaky Gut. Other research proven that S 1 alone ( iodine 125 lable) can go through BBB in mice, and induce neuroinflamation
He's just described a 100% fully functioning immune system - so why the vax? seems like a circular argument to say the vax relies on a fully functioning immune system to actually work. But - there must be some mechanism going on with the vaccines that is vastly multiplying the amount of induced spike protein that is manufactured. Only this can explain the high rate of adverse reactions and mortalities occurring: blood clots, heart attacks, aneurisms etc
i tried to look it up... protein S has 3821 base pairs which is what the mRNA coding instructions are for. maybe this will be a lead for the next person to find out how many encapsulated RNA strands there are...
@@peterlohnes1 you realize that no matter how many actual particles of mRNA is actually injected into a body (how many tiny lipid nanoparticles can fit inside a 10 or 30 or 100 ug dose? that's a state secret, but it will spread EVERYWHERE throughout your body and be multiplied - and you have over 30 trillion cells in your body - so billions of spike proteins will likely be produced because of course they will give you enough mRNA to get a "robust" anti-body response, so while I was being a bit hyperbolic, it's completely reasonable to estimate that the number is pretty darn high of mRNA. Imagine if you were to get even 100 strands of mRNA injected into you - it will start replicating - the only difference is that it would take longer to have an effect on the rest of your body because it's starting with a smaller quantity compared with the amounts that currently can cause anaphylaxis shock in some unfortunate souls within 5-20 minutes upon injection...
@@kathrynpodgurny6846 I don't think the mRNA replicates. As far as I know it just instructs the cell to make spike proteins and then falls apart. The spike proteins don't make any more RNA, they just get cleaned up by the immune system.
My friend got that thing in the m uscle. He couldn't move his a rm for a week. Said it was like having a rm rammed by a truck. He couldn't sleep, eat, get comfortable. They aren't training staff right. She hit a b ursa not the m uscle. They don't care.
Thank you for this detailed explanation but I’m still wondering that how could we come up with active killer T cell that recognizes S protein antigen presented on the MHC 1 of the infected muscle cell and kill it in the first place ,since it has to be activated later in the process by T helper cell that in turn activated by MHC 2 antigen presenting dendritic cell in the lymph node; or could it be the job of the natural killer cell of the innate immunity instead?
@@mahanharirpoush9190 I still can’t find comprehensive explanations specific to this matter in any articles but after checking with Wikipedia,I suppose these vaccine infected cells would have gone trough apoptosis mechanisms by either intrinsic or extrinsic pathways including NK cells as in viruses infected cells.
That's what happens in theory. The thing is, the sp ike pr otein has pri on like characteristics, and so it may not be digested by the proteasome. (the spacing is so my comment is published)
And p r I o n s can self replicate. If a vaccinated cell discharges s p I k e fragments that then behave like prions, they could induce toxic protein clumping which might have unpredictable effects, e.g. accelerated dementia, myocarditis, blood clots, neuropathy to name a few.
Leaking of spike proteins IS possible. And the cell in which it is manufactured is random. Your confidence does not remove these facts. New research is showing the spike protein, whether from the virus or the vaccine, has the potential to cause prion-like protein deformities that will cause brain diseases in a few years. The difference is the vaccine spike protein is manufactured wherever the mrna can reach in the bloodstream and lymphatic system once injected, whereas the virus usually only affects the mucosal membranes of the upper sinus. Our body's line of defence to the spike protein is bypassed with the injection. Spike protein is formed at random in the body with the injection. The potential for blood clots and prion like diseases is greatly increased with the injection.
@@ytcomms39451. the bbb is leaky in old people 2. the lymphatic system was discovered to enter the brain in 2016 3. Spike proteins cause inflammation that can permeate the bbb and 4. A blood clot outside the bbb is going to be dangerous anyway
I am no doctor or medical student but can thus cause new allergies. Alot of my clients who I work for who have had the vaccine are now presenting quite severe new reactions to foods or medication, perfumes etc
That was my fear. I think many will develop auto immune and be allergic to everything because now they will be manufacturing foreign proteins and immune system will be over reacting to everything. That's my theory
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 I actually read material from one of the pharma companies. They said your immune system will take and destroy any cell expressing the spike protein. There is no need to guess. Your body will attack any foreign substance. Including your cell that doesn't behave normally. Also do more research into the spike protein. Some are actually hiv dna sequences of hiv spike protein. This is not a lie. I don't see how these gene therapy creates immunity when your being infected with an unrelated modified virus. Also notice all pharma companies say they are causing an immune response with the vaxx they actually never said it confers immunity. Then they also use terminologies like "effective" or "efficacious " neither mean immunity and fauci made this very clear in an interview. The public is being duped, for what reason? I guess we will find out in a few months
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 that's my same questions. What are the target cells that vaccine infects and immune system will destroy. Whatever pharma material I read on this was silent as to the target cells.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 supposedly tge adenovirus they use naturally favors mucus membranes in sinus, throat and lungs I think. Bur since it's modified who knows. That's interesting with the liver and the lipid envelop.
I need more clarity on how the pieces of the spike protein is removed from the body. I also need more clarification on potential problems that can arise in the sophisticated process of removal.
@Roberto The Don Well, the proverbial they are saying that a good majority of longhaulers are recovering with the vaccine, which leads me to believe that the virus is hiding somewhere in the body. Just an educated guess based on the facts given. That ran through my head as my housemate has been vaccinated before me and more than a few time until he was clear without vaccine symptoms I nearly resigned myself to wearing a mask around the clock in the house. I didn’t. Sigh.
@@reydg432 Well, I had the j and j vaccine today in hopes of kicking Covid’s ass should it be causing my longhauler’s symptoms. Kick ass J and J! I will keep you updated.
@@anybenfotiamine1728 It has been found in spinal fluid in autopsies so it is possible it's hiding. Maybe the long hauler symptoms are related to immune activity and the vaccine makes it reboot.
@Roberto The Don You wouldn't really shed spike proteins. And you wouldn't infect anybody if you did. The spike protein even if in your body is not capable of infection as it has no rna.
THANK YOU for being the voice of sanity. This was very easy to understand by a 74 year old lady with very little science background. That’s a sign of a great teacher, to make something complex understandable to an untrained person like me. 👍👏👏👏💖
@@thomzydervelt5152 can you please put some names in place of the you and yours - im trying to understand what you are saying. I agree about propagranda - are you saying Syed is full or big pharma ? And it he is full of it then what is the truth of what is happening - Im not trained in medicine but im trying to learn from instructors and critics. For example, seems he missed the concept of 75% of shot travelling and what does that mean in this video. And what is your background, so I can put your comments into perspective - yes, I value everyones input to form a picture.
@@SAFETYfull the ingredients of a breakfast cereal are listed on the package, and most people don't understand what they are. So good luck understanding the ingredients in the vaccine.
The reality is, this is your theory only. Why did all the animal studies fail? What would be very useful is if you would debate any one of the premier scientists who are calling for the total halt of these gene modification treatments - Geert Vanden Bossche, Dr Sucharit Bhakdi, Dr Janci Lindsay - any of these people would do.
People need to stop twisting that animal study. Did animals die in a mRNA study years ago? Yes! What followed? Changes to the approach and in studies afterwards, test animals didn't die! It's fine to be skeptical and raise points but quit raising things like the animal study. It only discredits what may be a legitimate concern.
Hi Dr Mobeen, thanks for providing quality references accompanied with your clarifications. Helpful indeed. I have a question regarding the long term safety of mRNA vaccines. What can we learn from previous trials using mRNA vaccine against Flu, Zika or Rabies? They all a closed but keep recording delayed side effects. But I cannot find any reports published on that. Do you or our guests have some insight? Thanks
I am not a Dr. But this is what I understand. Side effects from vaccines appear 2 - 8 weeks as a rule. I never read anything about long term side effects on rabies and Zika trials. I believe the lipid nanoparticles in these vaccines where the solution to side effects and improved efficacy from previous mRNA vaccines.
@@alandockrill4924 Either you're stupid or spewing a political narrative. Don't care either way... but you 100 % wrong. Human trials of cancer vaccines using the same mRNA technology have been taking place since at least 2011.
So now that there are reports of rare cases of thrombosis and thrombocytopenia for all available vaccines in the West, I hope that there is an update to this video when the research comes out. I really appreciate the thorough explanations 🙏
So the question still remains.... How extensive are the nanoparticles distributed throughout the body? Liposomes I presume will diffuse into the bloodstream and are not only localized to the site of injection Theoretically the lipososomes loaded with the adenovirus caring the mRNA can enter ANY cell that takes up lipososomes, so that would be responsible for the systemic effects of the vaccine
The vast majority of the injected amount stays near the injection site. Some if drains via with lymphatic system, some of it goes to the liver and kidneys. Only trace amounts are found in other parts of the body.
Can you please explain why the CDC and the WHO are saying that it will not stop transmission, and secondly they don’t know how long the shot s will last. All as they are saying is two or more weeks. Seems pointless to inject something that only gives two weeks of protection and/or something that appears to be a massive experiment. It would be nice if you or someone else would go over the chemicals in these shots too. Thanks again!
I think you may have misunderstood. It takes a few weeks after the shot to build full immunity. So far scientists believe 6-12 of protection but it could be more.
How Long do the ribosomes make spike proteins? My concern is the On switch is on too long, leading to possible immune hyperactivation and dysfunction. Covid doesn't kill people, immune over-reaction does via the cytokine storm. What is needed is an immune system Modulator to keep it from over-reacting. This is what Vitamin D is. Most people are deficient in it, especially in India. Why the MSM isn't letting people know they should be taking it is beyond my understanding.
Jim Mooney - I agree! Clinical research shows how important vitamin D is, but even doctors I know just criticize the research as not conclusive! I have taken about 3000 IU daily for a year now, when I watched Dr Seheult’s video on it (Medcram).
Hello, thanks for your blog. Now cytotoxicity is being discussed. When do diseases come? Are spike proteins from J&J vaccines do as much damage as mRNA’s spike proteins? When do autoimmune issues come about? A year, 2-10 yrs?
Fantastic presentation! Very detailed! Watching this video a couple months after the upload i am wondering if you can make a similar presentation on how the people get blood cloths and strokes after they get it??
Once your body creates anti-bodies to recognize and get rid of the protein, they will be handled by the anti-bodies and immune system. Your cells are always dying and being replaced, so those cells will be replaced in matter of days.
@@CoolBreeze866 What about things like endothelial cells, etc? It sounds like the vaccines essentially 'transform' otherwise healthy cells into foreign-looking cells that our bodies will essentially kill off... so it could cause our immune response to basically kill heart cells, lung cells, etc... maybe im getting it wrong tho?
@@AdamIsMyNameO great concern, I am thinking the same too. I think it is most likely that this will happen thus autoimmune diseases. this could explain why some covid patients develop some autoimmune diseases symptoms
@@belovedflorence4109 Well I don't think this is the same as an autoimmune disease. The mRNA does not last long in our bodies, so cell death as a result of our immune system killing anything off would be transient, not chronic as with an auto-immune disease. I was more thinking about just the fact that the immune system could attack otherwise healthy cells if they're displaying the spike protein. However, I believe the mRNA is not absorbed much at all beyond the local injection (shoulder), which is why some people get a rash on the area.
Thank you Dr you are helping leaders fight for healthier people and for human rights to be well and informed !! God bless! Keep well ! Thank you for making it easy for every day people to understand what happens and is happening. Thank you for CARING !
Doctor this is a fantastic video and it would be great if you were able to update this to account for the recent British study of spike proteins (or parts of them or related antibodies) found in a group of nurses. I was wondering whether that study raises any new or unexplained concerns or issues.
This is very helpful and opened more questions. 1) If what is presented on the outside of the cell is broken down and is only pieces of the spike protein,, how does it train our immune to recognize the spike protein in its whole form? 2) would the immune system be trained to recognize and attack any proteins which contain those specific ‘pieces’? 2 a) are there necessary proteins in our body which contain spike protein pieces? And could they been seen as dangerous for having those broken down spike protein elements? 3) when the cell manufacturing the s proteins is destroyed, you said the not yet broken down s proteins do get out and join to receptors but not to worry about those. So the question is: How many of these intact s proteins are released? from how many cells? could this add up to many? 4) could you explain in more detail what happens to the s proteins which do end up free and attached? How they are destroyed?? That part is very unclear to me. Thanks
seems likely so if the spike is dismantled to the point where there are no nucleic acids (prions- non nucleic acid containing particles, thus not DNA or RNA) but so far we know that prions affect brain and neural tissues and can manifest decades later (mad cow's or creutzfeldt-jakob's disease) after cumulative effect.
What % of the lipidnanoparticle end up in the muscle cells. What happens to the vaccine that has not yet broken down and was transported by the blood to vital organ cells and/or cells lining the blood vessels. Would these cells express spike and eventually die? Is this something to be concerned about?
Thanks for making us smarter. I appreciate your patience in explaining it to us, viewers, like reasonable human beings. Many North American doctors simply dumb us down and offer us burger and fries like dogs, just to get the jab. It is insulting.
@@xTHEDWTA61x I think the choice is not limited to getting Covid or getting a vaccine. While analyzing things before making an infomed choice, I can use N95 masks to protect myself and others. I think masking did not lose its effectivity when the vaccine rolled out ☺
@@xTHEDWTA61x It's a fact that the spike protein on it's own is a pathogen, just search Dr. Byram Bridle. let me ask you this, If I have a 99.5% chance of surviving the covid19 infection naturally, is it worth taking an experimental mRNA vaccine that had previously failed FDA testing from a government that at best is extremely shady. Just look at Dr. fauci have you looked into his past ?
Since a "wave energy" scientist has discussed at a conference several years ago the success of activation of nanoparticles through wave energy (presumably electromagnetic waves), what would be the effect of electromagnetic waves on this mechanism of injected nanoparticles?
@@grose2272 I have not seen input from scientists relative to the biological effect. Little discussion of nanoparticles is found. I am aware, however, that the University of Texas has a nanotechnology lab 8 floors below ground level having briefly met an employee of that department. Why 8 levels below ground?
Thank you for the great lecture today. At around 19 minutes the lecture was going over perforins and granzymes and tell the cell to kill itself. How many muscle cells will be killed during this process since this is an IM injection?
Probably one cell per RNA molecule. Having those pieces presented is like walking around in an office waving a gun. Security is going to come and shoot you at some point. Of course some cells can hog up multiple RNA like in the example. What I'd like to know does the RNA have a repeat loop that the ribosome can keep making spike proteins with it or is it just one spike?
He said when the cell is destroyed for making wrong proteins,, the s proteins inside that cell, that haven’t been through the breakdown machine yet are released,, and those do bind to receptors. He simply just added not to worry about those.
@@digitaldebbi wrong ....your seeing it now ......big problems are to come from this vaxx....amazing how people just got swindled into taking something they basically are clueless about long term
The only thing i'm alarmed about is the lipid nanoparticles since I've heard they collect in bone marrow. I've heard so much contrasting information that I genuinely don't understand it at all, some say it MAY cause mutations that lead to leukemia and AI diseases, some say it helps prevent said diseases, and some say they get destroyed within a week. seriously, I have no idea what to believe about this stuff.
It more than likely causes leukemia. My mom got the vaccine in April and now her hips are hurting. She's having trouble walking now and has red bruise like sore spots on her legs now a long with swelling around her ankles and on her feet. I warned her not to get this vaccine. My uncle and ex father law are both now having pain in their legs and trouble walking too since given the c vaccine.
@@juju7530 there’s no evidence yet that it’s “more than likely” and sorry but that’s anecdotal. I don’t know a single vaccinated person with those problems
@@CoolDrifty are you white? The people I know with these problems are black (fully human and the prime target) and all 3 are on high blood pressure meds which I've been told can kill you if you are eating GMO food or taking any other medicine that contains GMOs while being on HBMs. I believe all vaccines and prescription drugs now contain GMOs.
@@bloepje Yes, I believe it appears to be fundamental to all pathological aspects of covid-19, and understanding how SARS CoV is so effective at triggering this ultimately lies in the viral genome.
@@bloepje Yes, it certainly does, as it is consistent with hyper activation of the immune response. Teasing out the reasons for mast cell activation in particular could be complicated, as some of the drugs used to "fight" covid could also be aggravating. If covid somehow induces long-term production of "foreign-perceived" proteins, this could be the source for enhanced antibody-antigen response. "Confusion" of the immune memory and/or recognition pathways through signaling dys-regulation/function could also induce such response - these all need to be investigated.
You did provide that we are still learning. There are complicated processes we still do not know. I think time and further research will make me more comfortable getting the vaccine. I don't begrudge anyone for getting it. Thank you all for testing it for me. I hope for the best.
does the protein spike S that is produced by the RNA of the vaccine has its own RNA so when it attacks a human cell will use the cell mechanism to replicate itself further?
proteins don't have mrna or dna, they are amino acids. Its like saying can vinegar have its own mRNA. The smallest known organism with DNA is thousands if not millions of times bigger than proteins. If it doesn't have DNA, it cant produce mRNA.
I'm more confused now after this presentation... I understood the whole idea of these vaccines was to present the intact spikeprotein to the immune system. Pfizer document even says the spike is engineered to be manufactured in its pre-fusion state... so won't it defeat the purpose if its mostly digested and broken up by the cells? How will the body identify the real virus from these fragments?
@@CellGames2006 Because we can't see what's happening at the cell level, in real time in vitro, we have to make assumptions. They may be correct or not.
@@CellGames2006 well that is my limited understanding so far....and interesting suggestion it is the proteins sheding waste? Is what will activate the immune system ie chronic then on...
@@billytheweasel A treatment is good for any time - for before and/or after herd immunity is reached. I define treatments more broadly than just a pharmaceutical intervention, basically to me, it is anything that helps or works with our immune system to fight off viral infections, irrespective of the variant or type of virus. The vaccines do not include the virus, so it operates in a different way compared to when a person gets the infection "naturally". One issue I have with these vaccines, is that a vaccine would not be needed as much if only enough doctors and medical professionals acknowledged the wide variety of treatments that have been tested in hospitals by front line doctors (even before and excluding the FLCC who gained notoriety in the media recently) and which have been successful in saving people's lives (which is NOT inconsequential to those survivors) during this global pandemic.
I assume the cancer cells would be destroyed by the immune system. Don't think it will be complete, so it won't "cure" the cancer, but pretty sure it will "damage" it at least a bit.
Alledgely this recent study shows it would stop the anti-cancer cells working. A study by scientists at Sloan Kettering discovered Messenger RNA inactivates tumor suppressing proteins, meaning that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, have a look at the research.
@@Aksamsons What the study found was that, in some leukemia patients, the white blood cells (or stem cells in the bone marrow which make them) do not have DNA mutations that cause them to go cancerous and divide unbounded, but instead they have errors occurring during the transcription of DNA to mRNA in the nucleus which cause them to go cancerous. This finding has no relevance to mRNA vaccines. There's not even transcription involved with the vaccines, since they are already mRNA.
I have APS, (anti-phosphilid sydrome/ autoimmune disease) I've been given contradicting advice as tp whether I should get the vaccine. Appreciate your comments
Antibodies looking for the spike protein is the result. Could the "spike" protein actually be part of another beneficial process that the virus hijacked and mimicked and now antibodies attack causing a detrimental situation?
Dr. Been please help -- why are some of us having bad side effects? I'm 1 month post Pfizer, my leg muscles are weak, I have parasthesia, and I am still exhausted. Initially I was very ill with a fever lasting off and on the first 11 days. Went to the ER they suspected GBS but ruled it out because my reflexes are good. Desperate for help. What could possibly have gone wrong in my case? Also, I suspect they hit a blood vessel when they injected because I tasted the plastic when it hit my bloodstream (I can smell/taste saline, for example, when they flush an IV). I have no underlying conditions, am young. Got this to protect my grandmother. Now I'm very worried. What might have gone wrong in my case? What can I do to recover? Thank you
Can I suggest for you to watch a different video that will explain why? This doctor still doesn’t see that the spikes that attach to the receptors outside the cells trigger the immune response. Similar to the actual Covid virus you are having the same result and are potentially someone who’s cardiovascular system had been compromised.
How does it protect your grandmother? the role of the vaccine is to reduce symptoms so you don't experience the cycoclikne storm. It was nether made to stop transmission or as a to cure the virus
Can someone remind me what the point of building the S protein is again if it's immediately destroyed by the proteosome? Between the ribosome and proteosome, what's the point? I seem to have missed a logical connection to building the s protein in the first place if a virus' RNA is copied to produce antibodies. So, a better question is, where do the antibodies come in? Why produce the exact same thing that was disassembled only to reassemble it before immediately shredding it?
This is no need to do so. From _Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies,_ published 09 September, 2020 in Nature Microbiology: _Should it occur, ERD caused by human vaccines will first be observed in larger phase II and/or phase III efficacy trials that have sufficient infection events for statistical comparisons between the immunized and placebo control study arms._ Enhanced Respiratory Distress was not of note in the completed clinical trials.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 Okay, so we're talking about the spike protein present in the full-blown CoV-2 virus. What then do you mean by "might evolve"? In what way might it evolve? You're unclear.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 Furthermore, there are numerous reports of cases involving patients that have tested positive for CoV-2 twice >4mos apart and have worse symptoms/outcomes the second time, thus setting the stage for immune enhancement as a potential explanation. If antibody enhancement were of concern among the vaccinated cohort, the current data would show it to be much less efficacious (Israel, U.K., etc.)-- this, however, is not so.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 It appears you are seeking evidence to claim that vaccines can cause--or at least be associated with--ADE with ERD as its clinical manifestation. Am I correct here? If not, what is your aim? Science starts with a stated aim, otherwise nothing gets funded.
I understand that the RNAses break down the RNA if it is released outside of the cell, but would it be possible for the lipid nanoparticles to be transported before being digested and end up in a glandular or hormone secreting cell elsewhere in the body which could release the spike proteins in large enough quantities to cause covid-like symptoms?
Something is causing ppl to have significant symptoms especially after the second shot. He makes it sound very benign, that our bodies have this but for our bodies to produce symptoms that keep ppl down for 2 days +, it’s not such a benign response.
the autoimmune reactions are often caused by the antibodies produced by the immune system. While a full blown infection will produce thousands of different antibodies against the many antigens of the virus, the vaccine triggers only the production of antibodies against the spike proteine which will shutdown a subsequent infection before loads of other antibodies get produced. Therefore the risk of developing an autoimmune reaction is significantly less with the vaccine in comparison with the desease.
@@hedy_7084 hopefully enough people will have been vaccinated and will have immunity to not spread the virus to you. The quicker the virus can be fought off by your immune system, the less time and opportunity the virus has to reproduce (via your hijacked cells), and therefore the less amount of virus being spread from one person to another. The vaccination just gives your body a way to ID the virus quickly to fight it off, so the virus doesn't proliferate through your body. If everyone who can tolerate an adequate immune response can get immunity, you'll be more protected. If you're being treated for lupus, like my mom and aunt, you're probably on immunosuppressive meds. I'm not sure if you're immune system would respond as well as a non-immunocompromised person would to the vaccine, but if we all chip in to reduce the number of infections and namely uncontrolled infections, we could reduce the chance of you getting sick from covid! I've been getting vaccines all my life to protect both myself and my mom, because I know if I got a preventable viral infection that was both reproduced and spread by me to my mom, she would be at a higher risk of getting ill and suffering more because her immune system is supressed and is less capable of fighting off infection. This supression of her immune system is necessary though, so her immune system doesn't destroy her own body super quickly.
@@emcompton5565 yes I was hoping that would be the case with more herd immunity. And yes, I am on immunosuppressive drugs, so not even confident the vaccine would be effective in protecting me. I may change my mind, but for now I am not going to get it. Everyone around me is vaccinated, so I hope that helps protect me as well.
This is all well and good, however you don’t address the mechanism in those of us with compromised immune systems. If any of the “ases” or other cells that digest are not working correctly, then what? If your Tcells are low, then what? If rnases are lacking, then what? What about free nanoparticles in the system after they unload their mRNA load? What effect do they have? Finally, how are we sure the mRNA program applies ONLY TO SARS COV2? Could other “programs” be in there?
So he spends some time on explaining the process....that the body does to protect itself from whatever...it was quite an explanation...and what gets me...is that some believe this all happened because of evolution lol...the functions of the human body is evidence of a grand creator and then they ask us to doubt that creator and trust them with our body’s programming...lol...I will never understand how and why society thinks and does...I used to believe people were smart...but not anymore..
What if the shot gets injected into a blood vessel by mistake? Would the RNA then get taken up by endothelial cells in the blood vessels? Then when the spike protein is presented on the cell could it then start blood clots?
Unfortunately, there is very little known about mRNA fate inside the body and usually things don’t happen as in a cartoon. That’s way deaths related to these vaccines have increased 12 thousand percent compared to all previous vaccines combined in the last 15 years in US.
If the cell is required to undergo such tremendously complicated processes to internally create spike proteins and then expel them in pieces in vesicles from the cell, then how is the virus itself supposed to be creating perfect copies of its viron within the cell and releasing them fully formed?
Rna is the direction to start creating the spikes. There must be something telling whatever is holding the rna to replicate the rna which is picked up in other cells if not multiply the spikes which attach to other receptors.
depends on clotting risk before vaccine which depends on genetics, lifestyle and diet, age and cardiovascular hx and/or any combination of these factors and other factors such as gender, current meds-- immunosuppressants ? steroids ? and pssbly more for one's body to develop a full immune response
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Interesting. I am trying to learn everything I can about this mechanism. I know this video is a few months old. I wonder if you could address the recent data coming out that shows these vaccines are not staying near the injection site, meaning they are not picked up just by muscle cells. Instead, they are getting into the blood and in many cases concentrating in the spleen, the liver, the bone marrow, the adrenal glands, the ovaries and crossing the blood/brain barrier into brain cells among other places. They are getting into breast milk and being transferred to infants. I don't have the information about the actual concentrations at this time, but I am trying not to form a biased conclusion either way.
Is it possible there are non muscle cells that might be less restrictive in terms of allowing the protein to escape outside the cell? I am not convinced yet that there is not an overlooked mechanism that might allow these spiked proteins to become abundant and freely available in the body, and that this might be the reason for so many adverse reactions. Before allowing an injection, I want to have much more information than it seems most doctors are willing to provide. But I really don't like feeling pressured like this to make a decision without both sides of the argument and with inadequate information.
@@lanajack404 - You need to learn source methodology so you can vet your sources better. High wire is hype.
It is best to view, hear the SUPPOSEDLY defamed sources wrongfully discredited. Research well by listening to more than the supposedly reliable sources.
Thoughtful questions, many of which I have too, and can't seem to find answers to. I am in 100% agreement with everything you wrote.
I’m right at the same situation... Being pressured to take the vaccine in a few days and going crazy trying to find these answers before then. It seems to still be unkown or not yet openly disclosed.
@@Sonia-zq9ek Say "no." You can always change your mind later. Remember high-pressure salesmen use the technique of putting scarcity in your mind. You think that if you miss this opportunity "in a few days" to take the vaccine, you will never be able to get it. That is nonsense. Take your time to do your own research and satisfy yourself that you have made the right decision, whichever that might be.
Dr Been I’ve emailed you several times now.... can you please make an exclusive video on why people are suffering from myocarditis after the vaccine
It's affected a few children, I'm not sure anybody knows why yet. Thankfully it's rare but still worrying and odd.
I think he did one recently.
@@Marrow452 my guess is the spike proteins that your body produces from the vaccine
they aren't
@@Marrow452 enterovirus will do this, also
How about stop experimenting on people!
If the spike proteins (that haven't been crushed) and mrna, can escape the perforins and granzymes "hand granade" destruction, how do we know that they can't escape the Neutrophil or Dendritic cells, when they too are destroyed after presenting spike protein. Thanks
yes I have this same question
Imagine getting infected with covid while the mRNA and spike proteins are still in your system? And these ppl would like us to believe the unvaccinated are the source of the variants? Lmao
finally someone that know what they are talking about.
Also- if you have other health issues or predispositions- what will this spike protein do(?) Dr Ryan Cole - who you can look up here talks of Spike Protein amplifying and “bringing out” latent virus and other health issues.. Is this possible?
yes it is different in each individual
My question would be if the immune system already does what the functions of the mRNA perform then why do would we need the vaccine?
Ditto
1894...Isolation in culture and microscopic description of causative bacteria
1898....Flea-borne transmission
1896...Usefulness of antiserum for therapy
1897...First vaccine consisting of heat-killed bacteria developed and tested.
1900-1909....Six million deaths in India.
What amazes me is how we can "see" this happen at cellular level and understand what's happening. Great overview and thank you.
they see nothing..it is like about the dark matter in the universe..
It’s not seen it’s calculated at a chemical/molecular level. Biologists just talk in “stories” of averages, what typically happens. I’m pretty sure we don’t have calculations for the synthetic replacements to the components of these interactions at this point. So this whole dang biology story he’s telling is pretty much hypothetical based on the interactions of natural components.
We all need deeper information, but no one would understand it.
“Trust The “Science””.
@@voytregnal8031 this guy knows "the secret"
@@maiaheiss2991we should trust the trustworthy, identified through indenpent verification and historical vindication
Thank you for making this process easy to understand.
Under normal conditions our cells express MHC I along with cytosolic peptide fragments that are naturally produced. This allows our immune cells to recognize our self-cells as "self" and not attack it. However, if our non-immune cells (i.e. muscle in this video) is presenting spike protein fragments (albeit non-functional) which is not normally produced, wouldn't this effectively be recognized by our immune cells as "non-self" and therefore result in "auto"immune response?
Bingo.
Are you sure? Based upon what long term studies of the effects of mRNA on the general population?
I guarantee over time the spike proteins are going to be more abundant than anyone planned
There has been talk that the antibodies produced by the spike protein have been noted to damage organ tissue like heart and kidney. Can you please speak on this?
Source?
@@JackFou The creator of the mRNA techology. LOL
@@Michael-4 what does that even mean. mRNA is a naturally occurring molecule.
You mean mRNA vaccines? And who would be this "creator"?
Surely, you can provide a link that supports the claim and not just random assertions?
@@hotpotato3311 the thing is, there is hardly ever one single inventor that everyone agrees on for any technology.
So there is no guarantee that I will find the person the commenter is referring to when I Google this.
So I'm already guessing and we haven't even gotten close to any information that has to do with spike protein antibodies damaging kidneys or hearts.
I have no interest in playing guessing games and fishing in the dark.
If you make a claim and people ask you for a source to back up that claim, you provide a source and not just more random and barely usable information.
There is a reason why scientific publications have extensive lists of citations at the end and not just the sentence "Google it".
I would provide the whole interview (as the link I've provided is just a clip), but TH-cam took down the entire conversation because apparently, it's against TH-cam policy to have the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology provide a cautionary message on using this type of vaccine. I'm not on one side or the other but I want to provide people who are cautious about getting the vaccine as much information as possible. I research important medical information on both sides but I only hear one side of the argument on major platforms so I encourage people to learn as much as possible and figure out what option (getting vaccinated versus not vaccinated) has the least risk for your age group. I encourage everyone to research Dr. Malone to learn more about mRNA vaccine technology to make the best informed decision for you!
Isn’t the gene material still in the vein of the brain which can get into another cell to create anther spike causing it to damage a blood cell causing a blood clot in the brain?
How are you feeling about the vaccines now, that the spike proteins are being found throughout the body, especially in the ovaries by scientists worldwide ? What are your thoughts on this and the fact it is causing devastating side effects or death ?
Source?
Dark horse podcqst. Multiple Dr's on there discussing their findings. Also literature from Japan also studies found the same issue. Spuke proteins in ovaries and organs
@@kandikaye4405 Look at the actual study. The amount of mRNA vaccine found in the ovaries and most other parts of the body was less than 0.1%.
The vast majority of the injected amount remained at the injection site. A bunch also ended up in the kidneys and livers where it gets cleared from the body which is exactly what the function of those organs is.
Yet all you hear is people screaming in panic "the vaccine ends up in the ovaries" without any sense.
What do you think happens with the spike protein when you get infected with the virus?
@@JackFou
@@lewisphillips7223 I'm not giving you medical advice, I'm just responding to bullshit misinformation.
People claiming that the vaccine "accumulates" in the ovaries without any idea of what they're talking about.
You just saw a photo on facebook with no context, no explanation and now people are all up in arms with 0 understanding of what's going on.
Thank you Dr. As someone who is dismally ignorant of biology your discussion is very clear so now I know enough to understand more. many thanks.
do you ever answer any questions here? please explain why vaccinated people have also reported aches and pains throughout their body, with presumably other tissues than just the deltoid muscle and connective tissue.
Latest study shows spike protein is involved in the endothelial damage. The truth is nobody knows what are the ramifications of having a synthetic viral rna in a hosts body. The significant number of deaths from vaccination is concerning too.
What i see here is juist an assumption that it wil only go this way. What actually also can happen is putting the person in a constant inflamation which can cause autoimmune disease in the long run.
no one knows, not even the scientific team who created/engineered the vax. one can only postulate and hope. but it is wise to consider all scenarios so one can atleast 'be prepared' as much as possible
The scenario that Geert Vanden Bossche spells out is truly horrifying. Take a listen if you dare. Top it off with a podcast featuring Dr. Yeadon, former VP of Pfizer respiratory RnD.
@@texasmeg4026 can you post a link ? :)
Yes. No long term studies yet. Let’s see what happens in 2 plus years
Adreno crisis in the making. Common sense says foreign bodies that are not suppose to be there activate an immune response. The body attacks itself. Not everyone has the exact same response but there are common reactions in a mass population. The effects now are just the beginning. When the next mass deaths occur you cannot blame the unvaccinated. The signs are there telling the truth. The scheme is up and the people are seeing the truth. It was pushed too hard, too fast, too soon to not be obvious. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Just as in the days of the spanish flu.
This is all so disturbing. How come they never discovered the spike protein travels throughout the body in testing? This is a crime! This is mass murder!
It's called Genocide.
If you're more worried about a tiny, tiny amount of spike protein from the vaccine than the way larger amount of spike protein from an actual infection, you've been successfully brainwashed by conspiracy theorists.
@Abcb I have a PhD degree in chemistry and I'm currently working as a research scientist in industry.
@@JackFou And you have been brainwashed by what is a gene therapy masquerading as a vaccine,
@@genetherapy666 Except it isn't. That's just complete bullshit that has been spread by anti-vax conspiracy theorists.
If it were the case that the mRNA of the vaccine gets integrated into your genome (which it isn't), you'd get the same effect but worse from an actual infection. If you're infected, there is viral RNA (or worse, DNA, depending on the virus) everywhere. This is not just true for corona but for every virus everywhere. In fact this is true for bacterial infections as well. Your body is constantly bombarded with foreign genetic material from pathogens and it doesn't generally end up in your own DNA. Your cells don't have the right enzymes to make that happen.
Stop spreading bullshit lies and fear-mongering.
Thanks Dr Been. I would love you to clarify one thing because I am not sure if I understood it right even though you said there are no Spike Proteins leaking out of the cells just like that. When you explained the process how a spike protein (respectively thousands?!) is formed in i.e. a muscle cell it gets shattered. Those little pieces are being transferred out overtaken by another cell which destroys the cell which formed the spike proteins and sets the other spike proteins free. So at some point there are "out", right?! ...at least until they get absorbed or bind by other cells.
Yup!
When they leak out from the cells , they become the source of blood clots
Thanks for clearing our doubts in such a refined manner..
17:15 You said this is exactly how our system behaves when we have cancer. People die from cancer! Which tells me that this system isn't the greatest at controlling foreign particles and keeping them from doing damage. 🤔 A response would be nice.
From what I understand, human body has cancer cases occuring every day, but our immune system works, so we are healthy.
@@SiergiejW exactly! I wholeheartedly agree. Our bodies are amazing and don't need to be re-engineered to do what they already do naturally.
Katherine P I am trying to read your whole reply but it is being blocked. I’m hoping that if I reply I’ll get to read your whole comment.
Katherine P yep I can’t read more of your comment.
@Katherine P Where can I find more, and up-to-date information about this?
Thank you. This was very simple to understand 😊 can the protein effect the blood. I am O Negative blood group and have a good immune system. I looked at a video that said my blood group are very rare in getting covid-19 and if they do they get well quickly. Why would I take something that might mess up my system? Can you please help me to understand. Sandy 😊
The O group has the lowest chances of getting covid, you aren't immune to getting covid...having a good immune system won't matter. Its like saying "I do lots of sit ups, will that help against getting hit by a pickup truck?" You either win he fight or you lose, plus 20% of the winners ("healthy" people) are getting long lasting illness. Why would you take a chance?
Your blood is important to our blood supply. Your unvaccinated might be needed more than you know.
@@peterlohnes1 Your analogy is way off. No correlation whatsoever between situps and getting hit or runover by a car. Immune system vs virus .... house vs fire .... boat vs water. Strengthening the first factor builds up defense against the damaging effects of the second, or ideally prevents it completely by sustained maintainence.
You have an extremely high chance of survival no matter your blood type
@@peterlohnes1 that's a pretty ridiculous proposition. Your basically claiming that the Milieu has no effect on your immunity. You might as well take all the drugs in the world if you have this little trust in your own biological functions. See how that turns out.
Thanks for the detailed explanation. How does the muscle cell know the protein it is translating from the mRNA is foreign and has to be broken down in the proteosome and presented on MHC-I? If the mRNA is recognized as foreign, why is it translated at all? Might there be a problem if the vaccine implanted mRNA is very similar to nucleic acids of the self? Is it?
Now the mRNA is modified to inhibit intracellular immune sensing, so it may not be recognized as foreign. Why then does the cell destroy the translated proteins? After all it makes proteins for itself and does not destroy them and present them on MHC-I?
Cells present all sorts of proteins (and other molecules) from inside the cell on their surface. This is true for endogenous proteins (proteins which occur normally in the healthy cell) as well as foreign proteins. The presenting doesn't know or care whether it presents foreign antigens or endogenous molecules. It is the cells of the immune system which recognize the foreign structures present on a cell surface and trigger the immune response.
@@winstongludovatz111 actually so wrong ahaha
This is like asking "Well, how do we know the immune system works?" This is why my patience for "the vaccine skeptic" community is VERY thin. You people have absolutely no idea the vast body of knowledge we have built these vaccines on, you are literally question whether the immune system can actual function.
Excellent explanation! Thank you! Could you please explain if the process will be the same if the actual spike proteins are going to be injected in us via Nanovax vaccine?
Very interesting presentation. I don't see how the messenger RNA shot is even going to work given that the immune system is going to work on fragments of the spike protein. What you showed was extremely complicated and I'm sure not complete. We were in the middle of an experiment and many of the thoughts that you brought up need to be further understood and validated. I hope you're right that this is going to be a safe vaccination process although I have my doubts. I'll stick with Zinc, hydroxychloroquine, invermectin, infused antibodies if I get sick. I'm not interested in being an experimental subject.
Agree 100%
I was looking for these answers everywhere. First video that provided the chronology I was looking for AWESOME thank you
Despite the 31:55 lecture on how the jab will not hurt you , I personally have seen 3 formerly healthy Human Beings take the jab x2 and are now DEAD, 2 of them died within 48 hours ! So, I am going with real life experiences and not lectures from anyone !
So how can the body produce high amount of antibodies against the spike protein if none of it produced inside the cell survives and presents on cell surface , except only small broken fragments ?
What do you think the mechanism whereby some young men are getting myocarditis after the mRna vaccine? Could this be due to free Spike proteins, after vaccination, that are deposited in certain organs?
You know the answer already bru
The greater possibility is that the lipid nano particles went from the vaccination site to the blood stream, thus passing through the heart muscle which pumps blood. If they entered the heart tissue, it is logical that an inflammation of the heart tissues can develop on some vaccinated people, just like corona does when it enters your blood stream...
Has been proven that S1 label with I 125 can cross BBB in mice and cause neuroinflamation. Virus and vaccines are producing S. Important subjects in pathogenesis caused by Virus. How much S (picograms/microliter) is produced by diferent ages of vaccinated peapol????
It seems that in some people the spike proteins are staying in place in the shoulder and in others they come loose and circulate right through the body . When the spike says in place there are few side effects. When they circulate they effect all parts of the body , brain , heart ,all of it.
We must start checking for levels of S S 1 and S 2. In blood specially in adverse events and also in MISAand MiSC cases... Mount Sinain researchers have proven antigenemia, leaky Gut. Other research proven that S 1 alone ( iodine 125 lable) can go through BBB in mice, and induce neuroinflamation
He's just described a 100% fully functioning immune system - so why the vax? seems like a circular argument to say the vax relies on a fully functioning immune system to actually work. But - there must be some mechanism going on with the vaccines that is vastly multiplying the amount of induced spike protein that is manufactured. Only this can explain the high rate of adverse reactions and mortalities occurring: blood clots, heart attacks, aneurisms etc
How many is a "few spike proteins"? Why frame it as a "few"? How many lipid encapsulated RNA strands are in each dose of vaccine?
i tried to look it up... protein S has 3821 base pairs which is what the mRNA coding instructions are for. maybe this will be a lead for the next person to find out how many encapsulated RNA strands there are...
@@ergo322 billions apparently - BILLIONS...
@@kathrynpodgurny6846 hahahhaha, source?
@@peterlohnes1 you realize that no matter how many actual particles of mRNA is actually injected into a body (how many tiny lipid nanoparticles can fit inside a 10 or 30 or 100 ug dose? that's a state secret, but it will spread EVERYWHERE throughout your body and be multiplied - and you have over 30 trillion cells in your body - so billions of spike proteins will likely be produced because of course they will give you enough mRNA to get a "robust" anti-body response, so while I was being a bit hyperbolic, it's completely reasonable to estimate that the number is pretty darn high of mRNA.
Imagine if you were to get even 100 strands of mRNA injected into you - it will start replicating - the only difference is that it would take longer to have an effect on the rest of your body because it's starting with a smaller quantity compared with the amounts that currently can cause anaphylaxis shock in some unfortunate souls within 5-20 minutes upon injection...
@@kathrynpodgurny6846 I don't think the mRNA replicates. As far as I know it just instructs the cell to make spike proteins and then falls apart. The spike proteins don't make any more RNA, they just get cleaned up by the immune system.
My friend got that thing in the
m uscle. He couldn't move his a rm for a week. Said it was like having
a rm rammed by a truck. He couldn't sleep, eat, get comfortable. They aren't training staff right. She hit a
b ursa not the m uscle. They don't care.
Thank you for this detailed explanation but I’m still wondering that how could we come up with active killer T cell that recognizes S protein antigen presented on the MHC 1 of the infected muscle cell and kill it in the first place ,since it has to be activated later in the process by T helper cell that in turn activated by MHC 2 antigen presenting dendritic cell in the lymph node; or could it be the job of the natural killer cell of the innate immunity instead?
I was thinking exactly about the same thing. Do you have an answer for it in the mean while?
@@mahanharirpoush9190 I still can’t find comprehensive explanations specific to this matter in any articles but after checking with Wikipedia,I suppose these vaccine infected cells would have gone trough apoptosis mechanisms by either intrinsic or extrinsic pathways including NK cells as in viruses infected cells.
@@reongyootbodharamik4954 interesting, so they do not get destroyed by T killer cells. Right?
because the active killer T's don't get encoded right away, that happens at the end doesnt it? he's just explaining the full cirlce of events i think
thank you for sharing your expertise so eloquently (verbally and visually)
That's what happens in theory. The thing is, the sp ike pr otein has pri on like characteristics, and so it may not be digested by the proteasome. (the spacing is so my comment is published)
And p r I o n s can self replicate. If a vaccinated cell discharges s p I k e fragments that then behave like prions, they could induce toxic protein clumping which might have unpredictable effects, e.g. accelerated dementia, myocarditis, blood clots, neuropathy to name a few.
Leaking of spike proteins IS possible. And the cell in which it is manufactured is random. Your confidence does not remove these facts.
New research is showing the spike protein, whether from the virus or the vaccine, has the potential to cause prion-like protein deformities that will cause brain diseases in a few years. The difference is the vaccine spike protein is manufactured wherever the mrna can reach in the bloodstream and lymphatic system once injected, whereas the virus usually only affects the mucosal membranes of the upper sinus. Our body's line of defence to the spike protein is bypassed with the injection. Spike protein is formed at random in the body with the injection. The potential for blood clots and prion like diseases is greatly increased with the injection.
@@ytcomms39451. the bbb is leaky in old people 2. the lymphatic system was discovered to enter the brain in 2016 3. Spike proteins cause inflammation that can permeate the bbb and 4. A blood clot outside the bbb is going to be dangerous anyway
I am no doctor or medical student but can thus cause new allergies. Alot of my clients who I work for who have had the vaccine are now presenting quite severe new reactions to foods or medication, perfumes etc
GMOs
That was my fear. I think many will develop auto immune and be allergic to everything because now they will be manufacturing foreign proteins and immune system will be over reacting to everything. That's my theory
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 I actually read material from one of the pharma companies. They said your immune system will take and destroy any cell expressing the spike protein. There is no need to guess. Your body will attack any foreign substance. Including your cell that doesn't behave normally. Also do more research into the spike protein. Some are actually hiv dna sequences of hiv spike protein. This is not a lie. I don't see how these gene therapy creates immunity when your being infected with an unrelated modified virus. Also notice all pharma companies say they are causing an immune response with the vaxx they actually never said it confers immunity. Then they also use terminologies like "effective" or "efficacious " neither mean immunity and fauci made this very clear in an interview. The public is being duped, for what reason? I guess we will find out in a few months
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 that's my same questions. What are the target cells that vaccine infects and immune system will destroy. Whatever pharma material I read on this was silent as to the target cells.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 supposedly tge adenovirus they use naturally favors mucus membranes in sinus, throat and lungs I think. Bur since it's modified who knows. That's interesting with the liver and the lipid envelop.
Does anyone know the NAME of the SPECIFIC test that determines if you had Covid antibodies from before or from vaccine?
Are you willing to be liable and take accountability on the thousands of deaths caused by the these injections presumed to function as vaccines?
I need more clarity on how the pieces of the spike protein is removed from the body. I also need more clarification on potential problems that can arise in the sophisticated process of removal.
@Roberto The Don Well, the proverbial they are saying that a good majority of longhaulers are recovering with the vaccine, which leads me to believe that the virus is hiding somewhere in the body. Just an educated guess based on the facts given. That ran through my head as my housemate has been vaccinated before me and more than a few time until he was clear without vaccine symptoms I nearly resigned myself to wearing a mask around the clock in the house. I didn’t. Sigh.
@@reydg432 Well, I had the j and j vaccine today in hopes of kicking Covid’s ass should it be causing my longhauler’s symptoms. Kick ass J and J! I will keep you updated.
@@anybenfotiamine1728 It has been found in spinal fluid in autopsies so it is possible it's hiding. Maybe the long hauler symptoms are related to immune activity and the vaccine makes it reboot.
@Roberto The Don You wouldn't really shed spike proteins. And you wouldn't infect anybody if you did. The spike protein even if in your body is not capable of infection as it has no rna.
HI, and thank you for the great presentation. But what happens with the Lipid nanoparticles that are a.o. made of synthetic parts (plastics)?
Obviously Side EFFECTS 🙄 for some or maybe all..... ⏰ 🕑 🕙
THANK YOU for being the voice of sanity. This was very easy to understand by a 74 year old lady with very little science background. That’s a sign of a great teacher, to make something complex understandable to an untrained person like me. 👍👏👏👏💖
I am an I.T. Engineer and I am hooked to your lectures.
I want the cdc to give the people a layman’s term document of exactly what is inside the vaccine!
Dr Jane Ruby has a study from Spain breaking that down. It’s astonishing
Good luck with that!
@@thomzydervelt5152 can you please put some names in place of the you and yours - im trying to understand what you are saying. I agree about propagranda - are you saying Syed is full or big pharma ? And it he is full of it then what is the truth of what is happening - Im not trained in medicine but im trying to learn from instructors and critics. For example, seems he missed the concept of 75% of shot travelling and what does that mean in this video. And what is your background, so I can put your comments into perspective - yes, I value everyones input to form a picture.
@@elfarrow1 Yes it is astonishing. Astonishingly wrong. The ingredients are listed on each companies website.
@@SAFETYfull the ingredients of a breakfast cereal are listed on the package, and most people don't understand what they are. So good luck understanding the ingredients in the vaccine.
The reality is, this is your theory only. Why did all the animal studies fail? What would be very useful is if you would debate any one of the premier scientists who are calling for the total halt of these gene modification treatments - Geert Vanden Bossche, Dr Sucharit Bhakdi, Dr Janci Lindsay - any of these people would do.
This isn't a theory. It's his immune system works. This is the ABC of the Immune system.
Yes, please invite any one of these scientists for a conversation.
@@DrBeenMedicalLectures Sorry but in this video Dr. Been has explained how the mRNA vaccines are presumed to work, not how the immune system works!
People need to stop twisting that animal study. Did animals die in a mRNA study years ago? Yes! What followed? Changes to the approach and in studies afterwards, test animals didn't die! It's fine to be skeptical and raise points but quit raising things like the animal study. It only discredits what may be a legitimate concern.
Hi Dr Mobeen, thanks for providing quality references accompanied with your clarifications. Helpful indeed. I have a question regarding the long term safety of mRNA vaccines. What can we learn from previous trials using mRNA vaccine against Flu, Zika or Rabies? They all a closed but keep recording delayed side effects. But I cannot find any reports published on that. Do you or our guests have some insight? Thanks
I am not a Dr. But this is what I understand. Side effects from vaccines appear 2 - 8 weeks as a rule. I never read anything about long term side effects on rabies and Zika trials. I believe the lipid nanoparticles in these vaccines where the solution to side effects and improved efficacy from previous mRNA vaccines.
@@wilsonsdrift9462 question, what is the "rule based"upon, sometimes is expedience rather than understanding
@@alandockrill4924 "fingers crossed" also a symptom of neurological disease and arthritis, make sure you can willingly uncross them
@@alandockrill4924 Either you're stupid or spewing a political narrative. Don't care either way... but you 100 % wrong.
Human trials of cancer vaccines using the same mRNA technology have been taking place since at least 2011.
@@alandockrill4924 Can you link the study please?
What a disaster the world is in now.
How the naive T cell will recognize the code of broken down pieces of spike proteins? And when it broken into pieces will it same size OR random ?
So now that there are reports of rare cases of thrombosis and thrombocytopenia for all available vaccines in the West, I hope that there is an update to this video when the research comes out. I really appreciate the thorough explanations 🙏
Will these vaccines effect our natural immunity. In fact reduced our ability to fight future viruses and infections?
Yes. Thus far it appears so.
So the question still remains....
How extensive are the nanoparticles distributed throughout the body?
Liposomes I presume will diffuse into the bloodstream and are not only localized to the site of injection
Theoretically the lipososomes loaded with the adenovirus caring the mRNA can enter ANY cell that takes up lipososomes, so that would be responsible for the systemic effects of the vaccine
Mucosal lining
The vast majority of the injected amount stays near the injection site. Some if drains via with lymphatic system, some of it goes to the liver and kidneys.
Only trace amounts are found in other parts of the body.
The lipids are called (Peg) Its the same lipids they use in ibuprofen. I researched this.
@@JackFou no it doesn't. Japanese data proves that's false. Biodistribution study.
@@HillbillyYEEHAA you clearly didn't actually read the study. It confirms exactly what I said.
Can you please explain why the CDC and the WHO are saying that it will not stop transmission, and secondly they don’t know how long the shot s will last. All as they are saying is two or more weeks. Seems pointless to inject something that only gives two weeks of protection and/or something that appears to be a massive experiment. It would be nice if you or someone else would go over the chemicals in these shots too.
Thanks again!
I think you may have misunderstood. It takes a few weeks after the shot to build full immunity. So far scientists believe 6-12 of protection but it could be more.
*6-12 months
I truly believe that this a bioweapon.
It is a bioweapon from a Function of Gain institution. It is what they research and experiment with.
No doubt! Georgia guidestones
What, the covid, or the jab?
@@misterbobby8913 both more specifically the MRNA spike protein.
How Long do the ribosomes make spike proteins? My concern is the On switch is on too long, leading to possible immune hyperactivation and dysfunction. Covid doesn't kill people, immune over-reaction does via the cytokine storm. What is needed is an immune system Modulator to keep it from over-reacting. This is what Vitamin D is. Most people are deficient in it, especially in India. Why the MSM isn't letting people know they should be taking it is beyond my understanding.
Jim Mooney - I agree! Clinical research shows how important vitamin D is, but even doctors I know just criticize the research as not conclusive! I have taken about 3000 IU daily for a year now, when I watched Dr Seheult’s video on it (Medcram).
Hello, thanks for your blog. Now cytotoxicity is being discussed.
When do diseases come? Are spike proteins from J&J vaccines do as much damage as mRNA’s spike proteins? When do autoimmune issues come about? A year, 2-10 yrs?
Compare to the spike proteins generated by the "all natural wholesome" coronavirus.
How would this be any different than the spike proteins from the actual virus when you get sick.
Virus fought in blood stream not in the cells ….so cellular spike protein could trigger autoimmune disease!!
@@russellsueosborne9106 This is complete nonsense. Viruses infiltrate your cells and hijack the cell's machinery to make copies of themselves.
Latest info is that spike protein does damage endothelial cells.
Would you mind citing your source?
Fantastic presentation!
Very detailed!
Watching this video a couple months after the upload i am wondering if you can make a similar presentation on how the people get blood cloths and strokes after they get it??
Finally someone who explains the process thoroughly! I was tired of getting a dumbed down version! Thank you!
This is still a dumbed down version
Have you seen the study out of Salk that said that the spike protein itself causes cellular damage?
So how long will those spike protein pieces controlled on the surface of the cell stay there?
Once your body creates anti-bodies to recognize and get rid of the protein, they will be handled by the anti-bodies and immune system. Your cells are always dying and being replaced, so those cells will be replaced in matter of days.
@@CoolBreeze866 What about things like endothelial cells, etc? It sounds like the vaccines essentially 'transform' otherwise healthy cells into foreign-looking cells that our bodies will essentially kill off... so it could cause our immune response to basically kill heart cells, lung cells, etc... maybe im getting it wrong tho?
@@AdamIsMyNameO great concern, I am thinking the same too. I think it is most likely that this will happen thus autoimmune diseases. this could explain why some covid patients develop some autoimmune diseases symptoms
@@belovedflorence4109 Well I don't think this is the same as an autoimmune disease. The mRNA does not last long in our bodies, so cell death as a result of our immune system killing anything off would be transient, not chronic as with an auto-immune disease. I was more thinking about just the fact that the immune system could attack otherwise healthy cells if they're displaying the spike protein. However, I believe the mRNA is not absorbed much at all beyond the local injection (shoulder), which is why some people get a rash on the area.
@@CoolBreeze866 endothelial cells don’t renew for one year.
Thank you Dr you are helping leaders fight for healthier people and for human rights to be well and informed !! God bless! Keep well ! Thank you for making it easy for every day people to understand what happens and is happening. Thank you for CARING !
Doctor this is a fantastic video and it would be great if you were able to update this to account for the recent British study of spike proteins (or parts of them or related antibodies) found in a group of nurses. I was wondering whether that study raises any new or unexplained concerns or issues.
The video is hopelessly out of date. Recent information tells us that the vaccine spike proteins travel widely through the body.
This is very helpful and opened more questions.
1) If what is presented on the outside of the cell is broken down and is only pieces of the spike protein,, how does it train our immune to recognize the spike protein in its whole form?
2) would the immune system be trained to recognize and attack any proteins which contain those specific ‘pieces’?
2 a) are there necessary proteins in our body which contain spike protein pieces? And could they been seen as dangerous for having those broken down spike protein elements?
3) when the cell manufacturing the s proteins is destroyed, you said the not yet broken down s proteins do get out and join to receptors but not to worry about those. So the question is: How many of these intact s proteins are released? from how many cells? could this add up to many?
4) could you explain in more detail what happens to the s proteins which do end up free and attached? How they are destroyed??
That part is very unclear to me.
Thanks
I.believe enzymes destroy the fragments from cell destruction!!
I believe you're thinking too much... :)
@@jeebus6263 stupid statement. Just be a lemming then
Good questions..
What about the prion like structures in the spike RBD? Can they be released intracellularly?
They may be able to inhibit the proteasome.
I hope everyone know what a prion is
Who are reading the comments.
I'm glad . I know, my only question is, where is the oral vaccine???
seems likely so if the spike is dismantled to the point where there are no nucleic acids (prions- non nucleic acid containing particles, thus not DNA or RNA) but so far we know that prions affect brain and neural tissues and can manifest decades later (mad cow's or creutzfeldt-jakob's disease) after cumulative effect.
@@1herbsforlifeentrepreneur198 I am sure there are many of us educating ourselves medical
What % of the lipidnanoparticle end up in the muscle cells. What happens to the vaccine that has not yet broken down and was transported by the blood to vital organ cells and/or cells lining the blood vessels. Would these cells express spike and eventually die? Is this something to be concerned about?
Yes. Thats the main issue with these. I
Thanks for making us smarter. I appreciate your patience in explaining it to us, viewers, like reasonable human beings. Many North American doctors simply dumb us down and offer us burger and fries like dogs, just to get the jab. It is insulting.
Lol you might want reevaluate your comment based on new findings that the spike protein alone can cause damage to human cells
@@ROBMCKISSOCK source? And also if it does do damage is it better or worse than getting the covid virus?
@@ROBMCKISSOCK Im interested about this new finding. Can you provide some sources so I can decide. Thanks
@@xTHEDWTA61x I think the choice is not limited to getting Covid or getting a vaccine. While analyzing things before making an infomed choice, I can use N95 masks to protect myself and others. I think masking did not lose its effectivity when the vaccine rolled out ☺
@@xTHEDWTA61x It's a fact that the spike protein on it's own is a pathogen, just search Dr. Byram Bridle. let me ask you this, If I have a 99.5% chance of surviving the covid19 infection naturally, is it worth taking an experimental mRNA vaccine that had previously failed FDA testing from a government that at best is extremely shady. Just look at Dr. fauci have you looked into his past ?
Since a "wave energy" scientist has discussed at a conference several years ago the success of activation of nanoparticles through wave energy (presumably electromagnetic waves), what would be the effect of electromagnetic waves on this mechanism of injected nanoparticles?
A human algorithm
@@grose2272 I have not seen input from scientists relative to the biological effect. Little discussion of nanoparticles is found. I am aware, however, that the University of Texas has a nanotechnology lab 8 floors below ground level having briefly met an employee of that department. Why 8 levels below ground?
Thank you for the great lecture today. At around 19 minutes the lecture was going over perforins and granzymes and tell the cell to kill itself. How many muscle cells will be killed during this process since this is an IM injection?
Probably one cell per RNA molecule. Having those pieces presented is like walking around in an office waving a gun. Security is going to come and shoot you at some point. Of course some cells can hog up multiple RNA like in the example. What I'd like to know does the RNA have a repeat loop that the ribosome can keep making spike proteins with it or is it just one spike?
Given all of this is so, what then do we attribute adverse reactions and ADE, antibody-dependent enhancement
RNASES will brake down the RNA. What will happen to the small broken particle of RNA?
The spike protein is supposed to stay in the injection area.. it's not.. it's reaching other parts of the body..
Well, this question has already been decided in a study: The answer is YES!
Yes what?
Well, the fact that spike proteins bind to our cells!
He said when the cell is destroyed for making wrong proteins,, the s proteins inside that cell, that haven’t been through the breakdown machine yet are released,, and those do bind to receptors. He simply just added not to worry about those.
@@digitaldebbi wrong ....your seeing it now ......big problems are to come from this vaxx....amazing how people just got swindled into taking something they basically are clueless about long term
@@kaleidoscope8743 he said YES to conspiracy.
The only thing i'm alarmed about is the lipid nanoparticles since I've heard they collect in bone marrow. I've heard so much contrasting information that I genuinely don't understand it at all, some say it MAY cause mutations that lead to leukemia and AI diseases, some say it helps prevent said diseases, and some say they get destroyed within a week. seriously, I have no idea what to believe about this stuff.
It more than likely causes leukemia. My mom got the vaccine in April and now her hips are hurting. She's having trouble walking now and has red bruise like sore spots on her legs now a long with swelling around her ankles and on her feet. I warned her not to get this vaccine. My uncle and ex father law are both now having pain in their legs and trouble walking too since given the c vaccine.
@@juju7530 there’s no evidence yet that it’s “more than likely” and sorry but that’s anecdotal. I don’t know a single vaccinated person with those problems
@@CoolDrifty are you white? The people I know with these problems are black (fully human and the prime target) and all 3 are on high blood pressure meds which I've been told can kill you if you are eating GMO food or taking any other medicine that contains GMOs while being on HBMs. I believe all vaccines and prescription drugs now contain GMOs.
@@juju7530 yes but not everyone I know is also white lol and I have many vaccinated family members on high blood pressure meds as well
That's interesting that people are concerned with eating GMO's but not infecting themselves with them
Do you have any concerns about dysregulated mast cell activation from the various peptides, or spike proteins, or any other vaccine components?
Mast cell activation sounds like one of the problems of the long haul covid-19 disease.
@@bloepje Yes, I believe it appears to be fundamental to all pathological aspects of covid-19, and understanding how SARS CoV is so effective at triggering this ultimately lies in the viral genome.
@@bloepje Yes, it certainly does, as it is consistent with hyper activation of the immune response. Teasing out the reasons for mast cell activation in particular could be complicated, as some of the drugs used to "fight" covid could also be aggravating. If covid somehow induces long-term production of "foreign-perceived" proteins, this could be the source for enhanced antibody-antigen response. "Confusion" of the immune memory and/or recognition pathways through signaling dys-regulation/function could also induce such response - these all need to be investigated.
You did provide that we are still learning. There are complicated processes we still do not know. I think time and further research will make me more comfortable getting the vaccine. I don't begrudge anyone for getting it. Thank you all for testing it for me. I hope for the best.
does the protein spike S that is produced by the RNA of the vaccine has its own RNA so when it attacks a human cell will use the cell mechanism to replicate itself further?
No
proteins don't have mrna or dna, they are amino acids. Its like saying can vinegar have its own mRNA. The smallest known organism with DNA is thousands if not millions of times bigger than proteins. If it doesn't have DNA, it cant produce mRNA.
Every animal that had these types of drugs tested on them died ? Why are we doing this to humanity ?
Georgia guidestones
Interesting presentation of how the vaccine is designed to work. Whether it works according to design remains to be seen.
I'm more confused now after this presentation... I understood the whole idea of these vaccines was to present the intact spikeprotein to the immune system. Pfizer document even says the spike is engineered to be manufactured in its pre-fusion state... so won't it defeat the purpose if its mostly digested and broken up by the cells? How will the body identify the real virus from these fragments?
@@CellGames2006 Because we can't see what's happening at the cell level, in real time in vitro, we have to make assumptions. They may be correct or not.
I'm confused. The presentation and follow up chat was how to mitigate ADE.
@@CellGames2006 well that is my limited understanding so far....and interesting suggestion it is the proteins sheding waste? Is what will activate the immune system ie chronic then on...
So, a double regimen of Ivermectin PLUS intake of "back seeds and honey" should REALLY REALLY be effective. Right?
Will a double dose of ivermectin/ black seed oil and honey damage the liver?
@@krisyas3136 nope!
Just get Ivermectin and Sativa seeds and forget the mad Scientist and Dr Frankenstien s😎
you are right ,but only vaccine are best solution get this virus under control
@@milacek
Vaccine is one weapon in the war.
@@milacek why? It's not a treatment, why aren't we considering treatments that seem to give the same end result as these experimental "vaccines"?
@@kathrynpodgurny6846 Need herd immunity from infection and/or vax.
Treatment is for disease when those are not achieved yet.
@@billytheweasel A treatment is good for any time - for before and/or after herd immunity is reached. I define treatments more broadly than just a pharmaceutical intervention, basically to me, it is anything that helps or works with our immune system to fight off viral infections, irrespective of the variant or type of virus.
The vaccines do not include the virus, so it operates in a different way compared to when a person gets the infection "naturally".
One issue I have with these vaccines, is that a vaccine would not be needed as much if only enough doctors and medical professionals acknowledged the wide variety of treatments that have been tested in hospitals by front line doctors (even before and excluding the FLCC who gained notoriety in the media recently) and which have been successful in saving people's lives (which is NOT inconsequential to those survivors) during this global pandemic.
so, why are magnets sticking to arms?
I think this video addresses concerns many people have about mRNA vaccines. I’m curious what would happen if the RNA got into cancer cells
Dunno. But since this technology was originally developed to tackle cancer I assume it must be at least as sound as for vaccines.
I assume the cancer cells would be destroyed by the immune system. Don't think it will be complete, so it won't "cure" the cancer, but pretty sure it will "damage" it at least a bit.
Alledgely this recent study shows it would stop the anti-cancer cells working. A study by scientists at Sloan Kettering discovered Messenger RNA inactivates tumor suppressing proteins, meaning that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, have a look at the research.
@@Aksamsons What the study found was that, in some leukemia patients, the white blood cells (or stem cells in the bone marrow which make them) do not have DNA mutations that cause them to go cancerous and divide unbounded, but instead they have errors occurring during the transcription of DNA to mRNA in the nucleus which cause them to go cancerous. This finding has no relevance to mRNA vaccines. There's not even transcription involved with the vaccines, since they are already mRNA.
I have APS, (anti-phosphilid sydrome/ autoimmune disease) I've been given contradicting advice as tp whether I should get the vaccine. Appreciate your comments
I hope you didn't. I have 3 close relatives who are experiencing ms type side effects from this. Non had any issues like that before. Its very common.
Thanks for an excellent explanation of the immune response.
How is the mRNA going to “eat” the spikes when the mRNA actually creates the spike proteins or atleast tells the romaZoid to crest the spikes?
The immune system will get rid of the spikes because the immune system will recognize them as foreign.
Dear doctor what will happen to the modified adeno virus DNA, went inside the nucleus after producing the mRNA, in the case of Oxford vaccine
I assume it gets similarly shredded.
@@kevinmcfarlane2752 hopefully, if is not so much mutated in the laboratory to create another pandemic
Antibodies looking for the spike protein is the result. Could the "spike" protein actually be part of another beneficial process that the virus hijacked and mimicked and now antibodies attack causing a detrimental situation?
Dr. Been please help -- why are some of us having bad side effects? I'm 1 month post Pfizer, my leg muscles are weak, I have parasthesia, and I am still exhausted. Initially I was very ill with a fever lasting off and on the first 11 days. Went to the ER they suspected GBS but ruled it out because my reflexes are good. Desperate for help. What could possibly have gone wrong in my case? Also, I suspect they hit a blood vessel when they injected because I tasted the plastic when it hit my bloodstream (I can smell/taste saline, for example, when they flush an IV). I have no underlying conditions, am young. Got this to protect my grandmother. Now I'm very worried. What might have gone wrong in my case? What can I do to recover? Thank you
I hope you reported this. I also hope the Dr answers you. I imagine if they hit a vein that may be the issue??
Can I suggest for you to watch a different video that will explain why? This doctor still doesn’t see that the spikes that attach to the receptors outside the cells trigger the immune response. Similar to the actual Covid virus you are having the same result and are potentially someone who’s cardiovascular system had been compromised.
@@stephaniebrunk1808 can you share the video?
How are you feeling now?
How does it protect your grandmother? the role of the vaccine is to reduce symptoms so you don't experience the cycoclikne storm. It was nether made to stop transmission or as a to cure the virus
Can someone remind me what the point of building the S protein is again if it's immediately destroyed by the proteosome? Between the ribosome and proteosome, what's the point? I seem to have missed a logical connection to building the s protein in the first place if a virus' RNA is copied to produce antibodies. So, a better question is, where do the antibodies come in? Why produce the exact same thing that was disassembled only to reassemble it before immediately shredding it?
Can you discuss Antibody Dependent Enhancement?
This is no need to do so. From _Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies,_ published 09 September, 2020 in Nature Microbiology:
_Should it occur, ERD caused by human vaccines will first be observed in larger phase II and/or phase III efficacy trials that have sufficient infection events for statistical comparisons between the immunized and placebo control study arms._
Enhanced Respiratory Distress was not of note in the completed clinical trials.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 What do you mean by "such a spike protein"?
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 Okay, so we're talking about the spike protein present in the full-blown CoV-2 virus. What then do you mean by "might evolve"? In what way might it evolve? You're unclear.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 Furthermore, there are numerous reports of cases involving patients that have tested positive for CoV-2 twice >4mos apart and have worse symptoms/outcomes the second time, thus setting the stage for immune enhancement as a potential explanation.
If antibody enhancement were of concern among the vaccinated cohort, the current data would show it to be much less efficacious (Israel, U.K., etc.)-- this, however, is not so.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 It appears you are seeking evidence to claim that vaccines can cause--or at least be associated with--ADE with ERD as its clinical manifestation. Am I correct here? If not, what is your aim? Science starts with a stated aim, otherwise nothing gets funded.
I understand that the RNAses break down the RNA if it is released outside of the cell, but would it be possible for the lipid nanoparticles to be transported before being digested and end up in a glandular or hormone secreting cell elsewhere in the body which could release the spike proteins in large enough quantities to cause covid-like symptoms?
Something is causing ppl to have significant symptoms especially after the second shot. He makes it sound very benign, that our bodies have this but for our bodies to produce symptoms that keep ppl down for 2 days +, it’s not such a benign response.
the autoimmune reactions are often caused by the antibodies produced by the immune system. While a full blown infection will produce thousands of different antibodies against the many antigens of the virus, the vaccine triggers only the production of antibodies against the spike proteine which will shutdown a subsequent infection before loads of other antibodies get produced. Therefore the risk of developing an autoimmune reaction is significantly less with the vaccine in comparison with the desease.
Does the same hold true for those of us already having auto immune conditions such as lupus?
@@hedy_7084 yes, of course.
Guess I’m damned if I do, and damned if I don’t…
@@hedy_7084 hopefully enough people will have been vaccinated and will have immunity to not spread the virus to you.
The quicker the virus can be fought off by your immune system, the less time and opportunity the virus has to reproduce (via your hijacked cells), and therefore the less amount of virus being spread from one person to another. The vaccination just gives your body a way to ID the virus quickly to fight it off, so the virus doesn't proliferate through your body.
If everyone who can tolerate an adequate immune response can get immunity, you'll be more protected. If you're being treated for lupus, like my mom and aunt, you're probably on immunosuppressive meds. I'm not sure if you're immune system would respond as well as a non-immunocompromised person would to the vaccine, but if we all chip in to reduce the number of infections and namely uncontrolled infections, we could reduce the chance of you getting sick from covid! I've been getting vaccines all my life to protect both myself and my mom, because I know if I got a preventable viral infection that was both reproduced and spread by me to my mom, she would be at a higher risk of getting ill and suffering more because her immune system is supressed and is less capable of fighting off infection. This supression of her immune system is necessary though, so her immune system doesn't destroy her own body super quickly.
@@emcompton5565 yes I was hoping that would be the case with more herd immunity. And yes, I am on immunosuppressive drugs, so not even confident the vaccine would be effective in protecting me. I may change my mind, but for now I am not going to get it. Everyone around me is vaccinated, so I hope that helps protect me as well.
This is all well and good, however you don’t address the mechanism in those of us with compromised immune systems. If any of the “ases” or other cells that digest are not working correctly, then what? If your Tcells are low, then what? If rnases are lacking, then what? What about free nanoparticles in the system after they unload their mRNA load? What effect do they have? Finally, how are we sure the mRNA program applies ONLY TO SARS COV2? Could other “programs” be in there?
So he spends some time on explaining the process....that the body does to protect itself from whatever...it was quite an explanation...and what gets me...is that some believe this all happened because of evolution lol...the functions of the human body is evidence of a grand creator and then they ask us to doubt that creator and trust them with our body’s programming...lol...I will never understand how and why society thinks and does...I used to believe people were smart...but not anymore..
Dr. Mobeen, this info youtube clip was extremely useful and precise. You made me proud of the profession. Thank you much :)
What if the shot gets injected into a blood vessel by mistake? Would the RNA then get taken up by endothelial cells in the blood vessels? Then when the spike protein is presented on the cell could it then start blood clots?
It always goes into your veins and finds a cessel, doesnt matter the type, the rna will tell the protein fabricator to create the spikes.
My question as well!
Unfortunately, there is very little known about mRNA fate inside the body and usually things don’t happen as in a cartoon. That’s way deaths related to these vaccines have increased 12 thousand percent compared to all previous vaccines combined in the last 15 years in US.
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and the data is less than 6 months worth
If the cell is required to undergo such tremendously complicated processes to internally create spike proteins and then expel them in pieces in vesicles from the cell, then how is the virus itself supposed to be creating perfect copies of its viron within the cell and releasing them fully formed?
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Rna is the direction to start creating the spikes. There must be something telling whatever is holding the rna to replicate the rna which is picked up in other cells if not multiply the spikes which attach to other receptors.
I'm extremely concerned about the effect of the spike proteins present in the body from virus but more importantly the vaccine ?
depends on clotting risk before vaccine which depends on genetics, lifestyle and diet, age and cardiovascular hx and/or any combination of these factors and other factors such as gender, current meds-- immunosuppressants ? steroids ? and pssbly more for one's body to develop a full immune response