DW9 had a pretty barren launch at first, but it was improved a lot through free updates and new DLC content, so I’d prioritize on reviews or videos that discuss the game over the past few months rather than a year ago.
"If I don't see Zhang Fei drunk trying to steal a horse off the stables it's not real enough for me" Alright dude, I subscribed to your channel after that, congrats
In DW5 they look like traditional ancient china clothes....now in DW8 like drunk fusion of traditional and pop culture especially for Jin...Wang Yuangi blonde with short skirt...wat?
@@DarthBodya at least it seems like they’ve dialed it back in 9 and are going back to what they looked like in 3-5. I don’t mind getting creative with the costumes but yeah the direction they took it from 6 onwards was not the best imo
I enjoy this game a lot. I'm not a hardcore warriors fan but I like to play these types of games sometimes, my favourites being Sengoku Basara on the ps3 and the Dragon Quest Heroes games. I find this one relaxing with the fishing, hunting, gathering and overall exploration. The fighting is cool too at least for me.
What I agree on: _ The instant engaging charge in replacement of the 6 steps running charge _ Character's attire design _ Talking animation almost human _ Combined Musou of DW4(5) and DW7(8) What I suggest: _ Revive dueling ( 3 kingdoms ain't nothing without strategies and duels ) _ Retain EX System ( only fighting games like MK, Tekken, SF needs that much combo ) _ DW5 voice actors ( only for characters in DW5, after that is by choice ) _ Open world should be in Ambition Mode or the Empires expansion _ Filling in missing campaign battles from previous DW installments _ Limit weapon cloning, changing back to DW5 or DW8 weapons ( some of the weapons just wasn't mean for certain characters ) _ Additional mounts ( the 4 great horses for 3 kingoms are not the only ones being ridden ) _ DW4 or DW8 theme for Lu Bu ( the 2 best tracks for Lu Bu so far ) _ Overhaul puberty Xu Zhu ( Xu Zhu in the books is not such simpleton and full of glutton, he is somewhat like Zhang Fei, but better discipline, also lean enough to duel with Ma Chao reaching to a point of deadlocking weapons with the Ma prince ) _ Some character wasn't properly aged ( Cheng Pu already looked like 60 year old grams when joining Sun Jian )
There must be character switching mechanics due to the fact that it would be better to have two characters who handle different tasks just to get the mission done and avoid having to go back and forth accomplishing tasks while having to defend an essential stronghold or character from getting beaten or captured . Also, I think it’s time for Xu Zhu to stop acting like a simpleton and be a menacing badass just like Imagawa Yoshimoto who ditched the comedy and kemari crap to be a formidable obstacle to Oda Nobunaga’s ambition in Samurai Warriors 5
While I think this game fails as a main dynasty warriors game, It could work much better as an empires game. Maybe being more live event focused so everything happens in real time. If enemys are going to attack you, they would start amassing their forces on your borders. Or maybe if you wanted to negoiate an aliance, you would have to go to the province in person (with bodyguards) and talk to the leader of that faction. I think watching forces around the map move around, following their leaders orders would be awesome. The poor voice acting will still bug me though.
Sorry not sorry, but this game ain’t it. Cloned move sets ✅ Bad and repetitive combat system ✅ Empty and bland open world ✅ Bad frame rate and resolution ✅ Repetitive story mode ✅ Laughably bad and cringe English dub (replacing iconic voices) ✅ This game proves that being an open world game doesn’t automatically make a game good, especially when the developers have no idea what makes an open world game good. It also shows us why we shouldn’t hype anything up because it might end in disappointment.
Im a Chinese from Singapore and kudos to your intro ! I can understand what you're talking about :D I wish they would release Dynasty warriors X or 10 in the near future.
I haven't watched it yet. Have a lot of other projects on the go, but I hope to watch it. Not sure if I would do a review. Depends on my thoughts afterward.
Damn, finally a decent review that isn't just blindly shitting on the game, but actually providing constructive criticism and such. Never though I'd see the day.
I feel like if you ever say anything is a negative feature, you should give an example of how it impacts the product and give a possible solution to put everything into perspective. Not just with games, but any form of creation. It's the only way to foster continuous improvement. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. :)
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What's so funny is that on the console releases, I honestly feel like they forgot to turn on vertical sync with how bad the screen tearing gets. It does become easier to ignore it, but c'mon Koei!!! Also I finally understand the combat to the point where I actually appreciate it. Once you understand how it works, it basically allows you to kill more things with less downtime in between attacks - I honestly thought it was REALLY stupid at first too, but when I remembered what the core gameplay was since the beginning, it made more sense. I hope they do DW9E right because I am enjoying the hell out of DW8E
I enjoy the combat system but I do prefer the old one. I still played the hell out of dw9 though and still go back to it every so often and did so recently in preparation for DW9E. Like you said, I hope they do it right because I've been looking forward to it since before it was even announced as the Empires games are where I spend most of my time in Dynasty Warriors. I'm just desperate for new updates now though.
Voice actors are terrible, they lack emotion & character, combat system is sluggish & doesn’t flow, the land looks barren, no color, doesn’t feel like your traditional Dynasty Warriors game, weapons... every one needs their old weapons back Sorry I jus really hate this game
No Douglas Rye or Kirk Thornton? What a bummer! Douglas Rye made Cao Cao sound like an imposing individual while Kirk Thornton made Xiahou Dun into a ruthless badass
It wasn't bad but it could've been better. One con I definitely had with it was the English Dub voice acting. Seriously after the awesome voice cast we had for the English Dub for Warriors Orochi through DW8 along with finally getting the name pronunciations correct. We get this all new English Dub voice cast and while the name pronunciations were correct the English Dub voice cast for DW9 falls into the category of bad that it's now hilarious.
5:43 I have to disagree on this one. I think this is one of the only things DW9 actually delivers on. Equipping gems with speed buffs and fire/lightning dmg as well as being able to chain them is extremely satisfying.
For what it is, I enjoyed this entry but not as much as the golden era of Dynasty Warriors. However, I still believe this would make for a perfect Empires entry. To me, that's what this one felt like above all else.
I don't quite know how they would work an open world Empires title, but I wouldn't mind seeing it. And I have to agree with you, especially since the release of the hypotheticals, I'm enjoying DW9. I just wish it used the same combo system as 7 and 8.
@@cafelatte1124 Definitely hopping on a trend when they couldn't even spend the time to test grappling hook in its early stages, being op as fuck and making the game anti climatic. Also the open world is empty as fuck, it feels like someone one evening placed the "fillers" of little groups of enemies with officer in random locations over the map. Open world of this game could be made amazing, but it requires a team who have actual experience in creating an open world that feels alive, even traders and travelers would have been a huge help for this game.
Cao Cao 155 A,D-March 15,220 A,D Guan Yu 160 A,D-220 A.D Zhuge Liang 181 A.D-234 A.D Sun Quan 182 A.D-252 A.D Zhang Fei 168-221 A.D Zhao Yun 168 A.D-229 A.D Lu Bu 161 A.D-199 A.D Liu Bei 161 A.D- June 10, 223 A.D Also another excellent Video.
One thing that can be a pro but also a potential con is that there is a Trial version that gives you 3 tickets to choose ANY character to unlock per ticket and play their story with the added benefit that if you get the full game, those characters are still unlocked. The con being because of this, the entire game basically gets installed so you have to wait a good long while before you can play the game not to mention all the space it takes but it all and all is worth enough of the wait considering how long certain routes can be and you can pick 3 people of over 90 to play in a Free Trial version.
I've heard the PS4 version has some input lag, maybe thats why you felt the Trigger attack didn't work all the time? On PC the combat feels great, I actually went back to DW8E for a couple hours and because the new system felt so natural I kept hitting RB for no real reason. It does need some work, but things like gems, items with more varied effects, and stat points that you distribute yourself made the new combat system really fun. People have actually been sharing character builds and finding really minute details in each character to make them each different and optimal. As opposed to previous games where you would just get stuns guard breaks and life regen on everyone. And I think once you spend some more time in different characters. you might consider everyone having their own story to be a negative. There's so little that isn't shared between them that it just feels like the gameplay was padded out as long as humanly possible. It's a testament to how smart the decision to go to Kingdom Mode exclusively since 7 was.
I feel like they should have kept the combat and weapons from 8, but added the combat state system to it. And also just because everyone can use a bow does not mean Huang Zhong and Zhu Ran can't have them as unique weapons.
You just got another sub! Thank you for this review. I know it's from 2 years ago, but you had an HONEST review of the game from YOUR perspective. I know this game has gotten a lot of hate, but I do have fun. Thanks to you and LightytheNube review, I have confidence to keep playing this game. It's not like the old DW games (3-5), but it's fun to me.
This is easily my least enjoyable DW game, it feels like the design of the game took a hit going open world. It was fun and challenging to move around in stages where you need to clear objectives, without that, and with the combat and weapon variation lacking this feels as much a step back as 6 felt, maybe even more so. I'm hoping with 10 they either go back to stages or work heavily on the design of the world. And for christ's sake dont remove weapons from the previous entry for scummy DLC
It's already been confirmed that the Warriors franchise will stay as a stage based game going forward. Though thanks to the fans of DW9, they are looking to create a spin-off or a new series that is open world.
I want to see more love given to the stages. We need big stage pieces, more events, more branching ways levels could play out depending on the resolution of those events.
1: I'd love to see a follow-up to this for Mouso month 2021 2: Got it on sale, it isn't too bad now. Being able to play test each character and decide which one to buy would have made for a much more satisfying experience. As I am only really playing 4 heroes, but ended up buying the full game to narrow down which heroes had movesets I genuinely wanted (the DLC daughter of Dong Zhuo is my fav).
I think what Koei should have done was scale back the size of this game. Instead of a huge open world make it a much smaller semi-open world (which is still much bigger than your typical DW level) and put like maybe 2-4 safe camps/towns where you can recover and change/upgrade equipment and accept some side quests. There should also be less but more interesting side quests and due to there being less side quests and a smaller semi-open world each level shouldn't take more than an hour or two to finish (giving you more chances to play other characters). I think that's how Koei could make an open world Dynasty Warriors work. Aside from the open world aspect of it Koei should bring back the weapon variety from DW 8 and just use the tried and true combat system of DW 7 & 8 with maybe some minor tweaks and enhancements if they want to. Last but not least just bring back the voice cast of DW 7 & 8, they were good and know how to play their characters as well as pronounce names properly so it's best to just use them again.
I also think a more semi-open world style would work better. They did it fairly well in DQH2 and they could have still increased the scale from that. I also agree that the combat system of the older games is great and could just use some improvements to make it that much better. I actually have a video coming out on Monday where I talk about this stuff lol Also about the voices, I have a feeling we won't ever hear English coming back unless they can guarantee sales from it. Since it's the Japanese head office that makes those decisions, the Western market can't do anything to really help make English voices a reality.
Much prefer this idea, in-terms of the stages. However I do partially disagree with you when it comes to combat, as I think 9s combat with some growth has potential to be absolutely fantastic. Right now it feels limited, but if they mixed the old combo system with this one (think it would be possible with the right tweaking and coding) oh man the combat would BEASTLY! Whilst the old combat did feel more "complete" it was still lacking, not as much as the new one, but it wasn't perfect.
I think they have a great basis for Dynasty Warriors 10. They just need better voice direction, return to the old system and spruce it up or improve this one, focus on making it feel alive, return some old weapons and allow custom characters, improve air and strategy, and custom empires and I am PRETTY SURE it'll be the best Dynasty Warriors game. It'd not take a lot to make a fantastic sequel. I just hope they understand that instead of copy their Samurai Warriors 5 approach, no disrespect to that game, but it doesn't feel like the correct approach with Dynasty Warriors specifically. Then again with how they butchered ROTK14, as much as I play it, I don't have too much hope.
the one thing that has irked me in most of the newer games is the unit roster for the actual soldiers and the non-existent morale system. In the older games that I played (3,4,5), your roster the army was much more diverse in my opinion. The basic unit always had a sergeant and 4 peasants and the more elite ones had elite sergeants and guards. And each of these units had different stats. The more elite one could actually take on several units since they also had better stats in every category, but could also attack more frequently. On top of this having a morale system reinforced these units by giving them buffs if you killed a bunch of units or prevented/did certain events for the battle. This allowed weaker, smaller unit(armies) to be able to fight much larger armies and even officers. This was certainly a more diverse system than what they had from 6 onward.
I feel like DW7 and 8 had a noticible moral system, especially 8 on higher difficulties. In DW9 though it feels like it's all you. I never felt like my allies were doing anything at all.
I just wish that they can do a dynasty warriors 4 remaster etc or a DW1 VS fighting game with ps4 or ps5 graphics. Nice content bud and DW 4 it’s my favorite at the moment.
It's nice to see someone actually try to find positives from this game lol I feel like alot of reviewers dont really know what bad video games are tbh. DW9 ain't perfect but its hella more fun than 1-5 in my opinion.
I still think it's one of the worst ones. But I see what it was trying to do. I'll play it over DW2 and am currently writing a Comparison episode between DW9 and DW6, so I'll hold my opinions on that. But I would prefer to play DW3-5 over this one personally.
@@ChrisGildart If they go with this style for the next game atleast they have alot to build and improve upon. This game could have Been really good. The idea and concept was good IT just wasn't well executed. It felt rushed and incomplete. One thing that comes to my mind is they should've focused on quality over quantity, less would've Been more for this title. - I have auto correct on...
I really enjoy this game. I don't understand the hate for it. I've played the older ones, and I've played this one. I like both. Can't be the same game doing the same thing every time, right?
i like it now that its all patched, the music is amazing, i like exploring to break up combat, and FINALLY WE GET A CHINESE DUB. i mean come on its so cool to finally hear chinese warlords speaking the language.
I still haven't really appreciated a lot of the music properly I don't think, but I saw that all the Dynasty Warriors music is on Spotify now so I'll need to listen through again.
honestly what i have issues with is that the open world feels and looks like is from a ps2 game. the other thing that really bothers me is the in game cutscenes they are so bland characters are just standing there just talking so boring. there is a certain scene where they are just drinking and talking that scene is really simple but its so good why couldnt they try to do that more. ive been skipping a lot of dialogue just cause it feels like nonsense or like it really doesnt matter. but im having the same issue i want to play something else but i keep playing the damn game cause of how simple it is to just turn it on and just go do something without thinking to much about it.
I wouldn't say these are PS2 level graphics. The world might be PS3 or early PS4. But those conversations are super boring. I call them cardboard-cutout-scenes because they aren't very expressive. SW5 did them, but added more expression to the character models.
@@ChrisGildart yeah I'm exaggerating about the graphics it's more the layout of everything. Some textures look like they haven't loaded. And structures look like they were just placed there like a sims game. I do know for sure this game has made me not like Cao Cao, don't know if he is this bland in all DW games. By the way this is my first DW game that it's not a spinoff with the skin of another franchise.
Samurai Warriors 5 so far looks promising. I like that there is aerial attacks now with charge moves and I'm loving the new character designs for it especially Hanzo Hattori 😎
Pretty sure the perfect dynasty warriors game is possible, they just need to pick a style and improve it not just do whatever. They don't know what they want to do with the game.
Hopefully Koei have learnt from DW 9, cause I think we can all assume Samurai Warriors 5 will likely be open world too. DW 9 overall is okay, I agree with the voice acting, it isn't great but definitely not the worst. The weapon clones are annoying but there are some variations to the moves for each clones and it is still fun doing the flow attack through loads of peons. Each character having their own story definitely buffs up the replay ability of the game. I don't know how difficult it would of been but for me, if Koei kept the DW 8 movesets with the EX system and maybe implemented the state combo system as well it would of been more beneficial than just getting rid of a perfect gameplay foundation built in DW 8. I agree with everything you stated in this review, Overall I do think this game shouldn't of come out this year, especially now with WO4 being released THIS YEAR with DW8 Weapons/movesets, tells me Koei rushed this game out for some reason. This game could of waited until 2019 imo, Koei could of worked more on the gameplay and each character having a unique weapon rather than the clones. That being said DW9 is still better than 6.
I have a feeling Koei will be going back to stage based games. I've heard the in Japan and China the game wasn't as well received as previous ones. But I do think that Dynasty Warriors CAN work in open world. Koei just needs to do a bit more research on how you make their world more interesting and make players want to keep playing.
I think a pre-patched XL CE version with all the characters and weapons available from the onset would help ease at least some of the ill will generated by this release, but I think Koei Tecmo needs to be careful, because they're not making multiplayer-focused eSports titles like the sort that gets away with being scummy.
100 hours in DW9, I think its wonderful. There is huge obvious flaws, but its got its charm If the cities had more immersion omg I would love it, the cities are all so wonderful to walk through
Just finding these reviews for DW.. BEEN A HUGE FAN SINCE THE THIRD INSTALLMENT AND HAVE LOVED IT EVER SINCE. As far DW 9 I still love the idea of an open world, cause this history actually did take place so think it is cool they did it that route I want them to cont ok une with that. Along with adding to the fullness of the world (merchants, patrol troops, criminals, and etc. Classic RPG mechanics with what have already implemented). I hope they take a route of continuing this idea. While making the world fuller as you said and I stated, but also keep the intimacy with characters, story, and combat. They have shown they can create the intimacy with the story DW7 ( that story was gripping, I would just replay that game to watch the 'Dynasty warriors" movie!) The state combo system isnt terrible. I think they should flesh it out, make certain chains from each reaction perse. This installment has me fascinated in the hybrid of RPG and Hack n' slash if perhaps they took some mechanics from AC and implemented them in the game. Not nessicarily fascinating them but having also grappling attacks like in DW6 those where so cool just doing a quick grapple on an officer or soldier to push them away or kill them. Also like with the musous make some grappling as they introduced in DW7. The one verses a thousand is funn but I think I am ok with 1 vs 500 cause that may be a better combat system for some cool intimate grappling moments and also a vas fuller world. Rather than trying to fight a thousand mindless AI. I kind of want to see if they continue this idea cause I am still deeply fascinated with this open world thought.
I'm a series veteren and this is the one DW game I just cannot get into. I feel it was a great idea not fully executed the best way it could. I've cleared one or two story modes and after that I had zero interest in the same old side quests and exploring and just warped to the objectives. The constantly repeating side quests were a down side to em :S Saying that.. I am looking forward to Dw9 Empires as I ALWAYS love the Empires series so.... let's see how that goes
I never finish the story mode for any characters. I like something new but DW9 is just too empty to me. maybe they should make the stage base but bigger instead.
i havent spoken mandarin since primary school (its forced into the curriculum in hk ughh) and i could still homehow understand what you said in the intro lol you did pretty good ngl 👍
@@ChrisGildart what if they do and they also add Like DW3 maps and the way you get weapons, like if you are at a level 9 weapon you can switch back to a level 1
@@ActualHorrify Absolutely not. 9 is the only one in the franchise I don't find remotely enjoyable. It's a grand ambitious game that ultimately failed to deliver substance.
Yup. Nope. Season passes? Pay walls? Dynasty Warriors is Dead to me now. I'm just going to go back and take what I've got and be happy with that. All good things come to an end. Time to live in the past just like my heroes.
I prefer 7 also. I haven't played 8. I agree, Empires isn't for me either. I also like Samurai 4 II and Warriors Orochi 4. Between those 3 I think you've got all the hack n' slash you need...lol... :D
Actually can't you get skills and accessories to change your attack speed, cancel types and skill triggers? I don't remember combat being the EXACT same from start to finish
It's difficult to say. KT tend to lean more toward the Japanese market and I heard they liked DW9's open world. I feel like they could refine it more and release a successful open world game. But with WO4 being big now they could go back to stage based... it's very up in the air.
same game with more stuff to do in between fights, better VA's, and a refined combat system... and better cutscenes... btw i have never played a real dynasty warriors before, i am going into 8 soon, so any tips for a future fan of the franchise who may or may not buy dynasty warriors 10 and onward (we'll see what 9 xtreme legends comes up with)
I have a feeling we won't get a DW9XL. At least not in the traditional sense. We might see it as a game of the year addition where it comes with all the DLC. As far as tips for newcomers to the Warriors franchise, honestly DW8 is one of my personal favourites. If you're looking at the Xtreme Legends Complete Edition on PS4, Switch, or PC you're going to get the best package.
That's what I'd recommend. Unless they put out a big patch. It's just not what we need for an open world Warriors game. Not terrible, but nothing I'd go back to and binge a night of gaming on.
I'm really hoping we dont end up with a cycle for the series, where we get a good game, a game that's more of the same, and then a complete overhaul that the fans hate. between from 4 to 9, we've seen this happen twice now.
Not gonna lie...I like Zhuge Liang's new VA more. The turning point that gave it to me was how he exclaimed "I call upon the thunder!" during his Musou attack. I know classic Zhuge Liang's calmness during every line, even more serious ones, is part of his personality, but I do like a BIT of three dimensions for my DW characters.
It always seems like the first DW game for the next gen of consoles isn't gonna be good PS2 - 2, granted 2 only really seems to be bad in hindsight, PS3 - 6, PS4 - 9 (because 8 was just a remaster/ GOTY edition of the PS3 version). Kinda has me worried if we get a DW10
This is like the biggest hot mess that I play on a regular basis. Been playing Dynasty Warriors since I was in grade school so I definitely give nostalgia some of the blame, but I’ve been playing it fairly regularly since it came out, tryin to work through all of the characters stories. I don’t think it’s the worst thing to ever happen to Dynasty Warriors like some people do, but it’s definitely got a ton of wasted potential. Sad too, because I feel the story was told the best in this game (minus those god awful “cutscene” animations) , which is what keeps me coming back lol
All this time I was waiting for a new outfit for Lu Bu. So far they haven't bothered. But with every new patch and extra feature they've put into DW9, it's gotten considerably better. The Trials, with all updates in mind, present a real challenge. Especially the Cursed Beasts stones, basically animal boss battles. I still haven't figured out how to beat them even now. My pros about this game are the landmarks and scenery. For example, the HuangLong just northwest of ChengDu, beautiful sight. And the fact that battles are no longer isolated on a small map, and enemy armies are in a more full scale, especially during Seige battles. Mounts when fully leveled up go CRAZY fast. They help with getting around the battlefield as well if you don't like how the Flow Combat System works. And yes, they also help when you do your initial exploration of the entire landscape. Needless to say, it'll take well over a day to cover the whole map. My cons, naturally is the English dub cast they ended up with. That was really because they couldn't get the original VOs, due to the #PerformanceMatters protest. Yet some of them nail their roles better then most. Such as the English dub for Xu Sheng was perfect. And the game engine itself is still looking a bit buggy, yet regardless I managed to get over that and still enjoyed it. Overall, I admit it's far from the best, but it's still not really the worst. DW6 still has the worst entry in my book.
This is a unique review, I enjoy watching it. For once, it's not full on 'completely bash on DW9', even if the cons outweigh the pros, you still mentioned the pros. Good job. Though I do have one question. What are your thoughts of the new characters introduced in this game? Are they good or bogged with problems too, like the game?
I don't really feel many of the new characters have much weight to them. Cheng Pu, Yuan Shu, and Hua Xiong are the only ones I felt needed to be made unique with some characters still being left as generic. Though I do like Xin Xianying.
I still haven't played this game because I don't have a machine powerful enough. I really want to though, the ability to run around open-world ancient China is really tempting.
Hey man, Musou May is still going on. I've been pretty busy so I haven't been posting the links on social media, but the videos are still being uploaded daily until the end of the month.
16:01 So about that... Great video though! I can see below you would have lowered the rating based on losing interest. I was the same. It got very stale, very quick. Also the DLC practices are becoming a little bit too crazy for me. I only picked up the first season pass. But yeah, just completed your Dynasty Warriors Review series. Subscribed!
Thanks dude! I'm glad you enjoyed the videos. I think I'd bring up the score back to what I gave it thanks to the DLC and patches, but initially I do feel I rated it too high. Season pass 2 and 3 were much better in my opinion with the new scenarios.
I uninstalled the game after 70 hours of gameplay. I'm a thousand times more dissapointed than i was with dw6. It's just not dynasty warriors, it's a random open world sandbox with combat that makes me sleep and dissapointing cutscenes and story/character progression. It's just not a musou game. I wouldn't be so upset if this was like a spin-off empires title.
Honestly man the only thing i would love in DW9 open world is simple rather than waiting for you for a battle to start the battles to keep going without you example you didnt manage to help Sun jian at hu lao gate and he got defeated now that force is coming to flank at the main camp and on another play though Sun jian could have defeated them and reach first Dong Zhuo . Also some AI vs Ai NEEDS improvement i waited at a battle for give or take 60 mins and the only one that kicked the bucket was Lian shi while Sun Quan was asking for help for about 50 mins he didnt die (thats because as soon as the AI officers stop fighting (at distance) they will replenish their HP to full (and another weird factor that the ai for that to end fast there must absolutely noy be any mobile unit capaitns mixed into the fight). but overall aside from the naggativity i really liked the game gives me hopes for DW10
That is an amazing idea. They could run with it if they stick to open world aspect in Dynasty Warriors from here on, they couldn't apply it to the entire roster as that would be an enormous amount of work just not possible in few years, but it would continue as a series of various characters having their stories out in the open world, affected by your decisions.
@@BlingBoyOto imagine making the open world aspect more exciting with characters reacting to your actions. For example, try entering the Imperial Palace and start raising hell like a psycho and guards will react by chasing you and try to attack you or rescue someone who’s being held hostage by hostile forces and you’ll be rewarded for a job well done
I downloaded a trial and couldn't finish it I hated it. I liked the DW style not this RPG. I ended up spending an hour on the first mission and didn't finish it most of it was just running around, hate the RPG convos instead of the over the top cut scenes, hate the new hub and the forced mini map, hate the combat got pure bored, didn't feel like a warriors game at all for me. New voice acting sucks. I was Dun and his voice grinded on me high pitched, his voice used to be deep, growly and badass in old games
I'd love to, but these reviews take a lot of time and I'm working on a bunch of other projects. I also don't know if my rating would change much, but they've definitely added some things I'm enjoying.
@@JassomJassom-mc2ez I've been a huge supporters of the Warriors franchise (Dynasty and Samurai) since DW2, literally played every game. But one thing I always do is wait for the price to drop, so I can trade in the previous versions and not pay a whole lot for the new one. I just played the DW9 demo 2 days ago, since now the price dropped to $20, I figured let me try it out...so glad I didn't buy, this game is horrible. DW3 looked better than this. Graphics are abysmal, resolution is a mess, horses run into walls, launch attacks are a cheesefest, cutscenes are a joke, and voice acting was just ridiculous. The new movesets were great, I liked how they fit each character, but they changed it from a unlockable linked attack system to just basic button mash, it gets old quick. It's a moot point anyway because thr game doesn't give you incentive to try out every character. Because of it's long, tedious, grindy nature, starting all over with a new character is a chore now. How did they think this was a $60 - $90 game? I get that they wanted to spice it up and try something new, especially jumping to strictly current gen. But in their attempt to enter new territory, they got away from what made it such an enjoyable experience in the first place. They could've easily used the Empires system and expanded that into their own style of open world. I'm sorry, but this game is so far away from what the franchise was meant to be. I'll wait for DW10.
Shame If they changed a few things the idea of nine would be epic add army controls custom characters and soldiers etc and events and a better English cast or better directing then the games idea can be salvaged but whatever.
@@angelvaldez3536 the standard edition should had designed army control and Empire Vagabond troops by taking Unity Pro's greatest options. And yet NO CUSTOM CHARACTERS FOR Nine characters, they could had used custom characters to advertise 9 and it is much easier to add custom Unity addon-tools to the game but Koei fails at Coding. Not Unity's fault but language in C# is too difficult.
FreelanceArt101 I prefer they made a new empire that way they can just rid the old combat system and add a new one with all these new things and even then maybe add something that gets rid of the unnecessary size of the map to help performance.
I like DW9 , The music , character, and sound effect and grapich of course , But there is one very fatal flaw , the voice actor ,..😭😭 , i Really like Lu Bu voice in 2 - 8 , But in 9 , Look! , The all voice actor is like naahhhh yaaa is suck
DW9 had a pretty barren launch at first, but it was improved a lot through free updates and new DLC content, so I’d prioritize on reviews or videos that discuss the game over the past few months rather than a year ago.
I was able to get it for $10. Hopefully all the new content makes this game worth $10.
I would say $10 isn't a bad price for this.
I would love it if Koei remastered the classic DW games, especially DW4 with its amazing soundtracks
Dw4 so overrated, 5 is so much better
hhmmmm....
@@ikk9597 Na 3 & 4 were the best 5 was after those two
@@cameront7804 🤨
@@ikk9597Why is 5 better iyo? 🤔
"If I don't see Zhang Fei drunk trying to steal a horse off the stables it's not real enough for me"
Alright dude, I subscribed to your channel after that, congrats
Thanks man! Haha
I'd really looking forward to this video. Did not disappoint. Another great video man!
Thanks! I know this video took a little while haha
Dynasty warriors 5 had the best character costumes and weapons sets
For me its 4 as far as costumes however the ones from 5 were also very cool,
In DW5 they look like traditional ancient china clothes....now in DW8 like drunk fusion of traditional and pop culture especially for Jin...Wang Yuangi blonde with short skirt...wat?
@@DarthBodya at least it seems like they’ve dialed it back in 9 and are going back to what they looked like in 3-5. I don’t mind getting creative with the costumes but yeah the direction they took it from 6 onwards was not the best imo
I enjoy this game a lot. I'm not a hardcore warriors fan but I like to play these types of games sometimes, my favourites being Sengoku Basara on the ps3 and the Dragon Quest Heroes games. I find this one relaxing with the fishing, hunting, gathering and overall exploration. The fighting is cool too at least for me.
What I agree on:
_ The instant engaging charge in replacement of the 6 steps running charge
_ Character's attire design
_ Talking animation almost human
_ Combined Musou of DW4(5) and DW7(8)
What I suggest:
_ Revive dueling ( 3 kingdoms ain't nothing without strategies and duels )
_ Retain EX System ( only fighting games like MK, Tekken, SF needs that much combo )
_ DW5 voice actors ( only for characters in DW5, after that is by choice )
_ Open world should be in Ambition Mode or the Empires expansion
_ Filling in missing campaign battles from previous DW installments
_ Limit weapon cloning, changing back to DW5 or DW8 weapons ( some of the weapons just wasn't mean for certain characters )
_ Additional mounts ( the 4 great horses for 3 kingoms are not the only ones being ridden )
_ DW4 or DW8 theme for Lu Bu ( the 2 best tracks for Lu Bu so far )
_ Overhaul puberty Xu Zhu ( Xu Zhu in the books is not such simpleton and full of glutton, he is somewhat like Zhang Fei, but better discipline, also lean enough to duel with Ma Chao reaching to a point of deadlocking weapons with the Ma prince )
_ Some character wasn't properly aged ( Cheng Pu already looked like 60 year old grams when joining Sun Jian )
There must be character switching mechanics due to the fact that it would be better to have two characters who handle different tasks just to get the mission done and avoid having to go back and forth accomplishing tasks while having to defend an essential stronghold or character from getting beaten or captured . Also, I think it’s time for Xu Zhu to stop acting like a simpleton and be a menacing badass just like Imagawa Yoshimoto who ditched the comedy and kemari crap to be a formidable obstacle to Oda Nobunaga’s ambition in Samurai Warriors 5
I can’t believe this game came out over 5 years ago now.. crazy effort into this video, thank you!
While I think this game fails as a main dynasty warriors game, It could work much better as an empires game. Maybe being more live event focused so everything happens in real time. If enemys are going to attack you, they would start amassing their forces on your borders. Or maybe if you wanted to negoiate an aliance, you would have to go to the province in person (with bodyguards) and talk to the leader of that faction.
I think watching forces around the map move around, following their leaders orders would be awesome. The poor voice acting will still bug me though.
Exactly i want empires 9
@@isidoro19david65 SAME HERE!
Sorry not sorry, but this game ain’t it.
Cloned move sets ✅
Bad and repetitive combat system ✅
Empty and bland open world ✅
Bad frame rate and resolution ✅
Repetitive story mode ✅
Laughably bad and cringe English dub (replacing iconic voices) ✅
This game proves that being an open world game doesn’t automatically make a game good, especially when the developers have no idea what makes an open world game good. It also shows us why we shouldn’t hype anything up because it might end in disappointment.
Im a Chinese from Singapore and kudos to your intro ! I can understand what you're talking about :D
I wish they would release Dynasty warriors X or 10 in the near future.
Glad to hear I didn't mess up too bad on my intro. I think Dynasty Warriors 10 will be a couple more years at least.
@@ChrisGildart Have you watched the new Dynasty Warriors movie yet? will you do a review for this movie?
I haven't watched it yet. Have a lot of other projects on the go, but I hope to watch it. Not sure if I would do a review. Depends on my thoughts afterward.
Damn, finally a decent review that isn't just blindly shitting on the game, but actually providing constructive criticism and such.
Never though I'd see the day.
I feel like if you ever say anything is a negative feature, you should give an example of how it impacts the product and give a possible solution to put everything into perspective. Not just with games, but any form of creation. It's the only way to foster continuous improvement. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. :)
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What's so funny is that on the console releases, I honestly feel like they forgot to turn on vertical sync with how bad the screen tearing gets. It does become easier to ignore it, but c'mon Koei!!!
Also I finally understand the combat to the point where I actually appreciate it. Once you understand how it works, it basically allows you to kill more things with less downtime in between attacks - I honestly thought it was REALLY stupid at first too, but when I remembered what the core gameplay was since the beginning, it made more sense. I hope they do DW9E right because I am enjoying the hell out of DW8E
I enjoy the combat system but I do prefer the old one. I still played the hell out of dw9 though and still go back to it every so often and did so recently in preparation for DW9E. Like you said, I hope they do it right because I've been looking forward to it since before it was even announced as the Empires games are where I spend most of my time in Dynasty Warriors. I'm just desperate for new updates now though.
Voice actors are terrible, they lack emotion & character, combat system is sluggish & doesn’t flow, the land looks barren, no color, doesn’t feel like your traditional Dynasty Warriors game, weapons... every one needs their old weapons back
Sorry I jus really hate this game
the video I've been waiting for a long time, excellent review
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Con: Jamieson Price did not voice Lu bu like he did for DW 5 to 8XL
I liked Dan Woren from DW4. Scary as hell.
@@mystifyer_x5706 he did his thing no doubt set the bar for Jamieson Price
No Douglas Rye or Kirk Thornton? What a bummer! Douglas Rye made Cao Cao sound like an imposing individual while Kirk Thornton made Xiahou Dun into a ruthless badass
Pros:none
Cons: *everything*
Pros: new characters
Cons: open world not implemented correctly.
Lmao 😂😂
I can kinda agree with you on combo, til I played chain and sickle. This one, the trigger and extra attacks own. Jia Xu is great.
I still haven't played any of the chain and sickle characters. Maybe that should be the next story I do.
It wasn't bad but it could've been better. One con I definitely had with it was the English Dub voice acting. Seriously after the awesome voice cast we had for the English Dub for Warriors Orochi through DW8 along with finally getting the name pronunciations correct. We get this all new English Dub voice cast and while the name pronunciations were correct the English Dub voice cast for DW9 falls into the category of bad that it's now hilarious.
5:43 I have to disagree on this one. I think this is one of the only things DW9 actually delivers on. Equipping gems with speed buffs and fire/lightning dmg as well as being able to chain them is extremely satisfying.
For what it is, I enjoyed this entry but not as much as the golden era of Dynasty Warriors. However, I still believe this would make for a perfect Empires entry. To me, that's what this one felt like above all else.
I don't quite know how they would work an open world Empires title, but I wouldn't mind seeing it.
And I have to agree with you, especially since the release of the hypotheticals, I'm enjoying DW9. I just wish it used the same combo system as 7 and 8.
I miss old moveset and old weapons
Same. Would have loved to see weapons and movesets from DW5 be added to DW8 as DLC after seeing Cao Pi and Cao Ren 's weapons return.
@@ChrisGildart I miss old Gan Ning with his sword and Zhang He with his claws
Dynasty warriors 9 in my opinion is a good game,have many flaws however is a unique and inovating dw game
lol nope. There is no innovation here. They just hopped on that "open world" train that a lot of games were already going for.
@@cafelatte1124 Definitely hopping on a trend when they couldn't even spend the time to test grappling hook in its early stages, being op as fuck and making the game anti climatic. Also the open world is empty as fuck, it feels like someone one evening placed the "fillers" of little groups of enemies with officer in random locations over the map.
Open world of this game could be made amazing, but it requires a team who have actual experience in creating an open world that feels alive, even traders and travelers would have been a huge help for this game.
Man, some of the costumes really look better now.
I think the character design for DW9 is actually some of the best.
10:17 look guys, its the best dw game
This dude knows what's up.
Ya
I enjoyed this game.... before i bought dw8 CE
They shoulda just stick with the stage system like always.
I'm fine that they tried to do something new. But now that it didn't work, they should go back to the old system.
Cao Cao 155 A,D-March 15,220 A,D Guan Yu 160 A,D-220 A.D Zhuge Liang 181 A.D-234 A.D Sun Quan 182 A.D-252 A.D Zhang Fei 168-221 A.D Zhao Yun 168 A.D-229 A.D Lu Bu 161 A.D-199 A.D Liu Bei 161 A.D- June 10, 223 A.D Also another excellent Video.
One thing that can be a pro but also a potential con is that there is a Trial version that gives you 3 tickets to choose ANY character to unlock per ticket and play their story with the added benefit that if you get the full game, those characters are still unlocked.
The con being because of this, the entire game basically gets installed so you have to wait a good long while before you can play the game not to mention all the space it takes but it all and all is worth enough of the wait considering how long certain routes can be and you can pick 3 people of over 90 to play in a Free Trial version.
I've heard the PS4 version has some input lag, maybe thats why you felt the Trigger attack didn't work all the time? On PC the combat feels great, I actually went back to DW8E for a couple hours and because the new system felt so natural I kept hitting RB for no real reason. It does need some work, but things like gems, items with more varied effects, and stat points that you distribute yourself made the new combat system really fun. People have actually been sharing character builds and finding really minute details in each character to make them each different and optimal. As opposed to previous games where you would just get stuns guard breaks and life regen on everyone.
And I think once you spend some more time in different characters. you might consider everyone having their own story to be a negative. There's so little that isn't shared between them that it just feels like the gameplay was padded out as long as humanly possible. It's a testament to how smart the decision to go to Kingdom Mode exclusively since 7 was.
I feel like they should have kept the combat and weapons from 8, but added the combat state system to it. And also just because everyone can use a bow does not mean Huang Zhong and Zhu Ran can't have them as unique weapons.
You just got another sub! Thank you for this review. I know it's from 2 years ago, but you had an HONEST review of the game from YOUR perspective. I know this game has gotten a lot of hate, but I do have fun. Thanks to you and LightytheNube review, I have confidence to keep playing this game. It's not like the old DW games (3-5), but it's fun to me.
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
This is easily my least enjoyable DW game, it feels like the design of the game took a hit going open world. It was fun and challenging to move around in stages where you need to clear objectives, without that, and with the combat and weapon variation lacking this feels as much a step back as 6 felt, maybe even more so. I'm hoping with 10 they either go back to stages or work heavily on the design of the world. And for christ's sake dont remove weapons from the previous entry for scummy DLC
It's already been confirmed that the Warriors franchise will stay as a stage based game going forward. Though thanks to the fans of DW9, they are looking to create a spin-off or a new series that is open world.
@@ChrisGildart I like that approach, a best of both worlds deal suits everyone
Welcome to the plight of Bioware fans.
I want to see more love given to the stages. We need big stage pieces, more events, more branching ways levels could play out depending on the resolution of those events.
Good attempt in speaking in Mandarin!
Thanks, I was trying pretty hard to do well. It's a difficult language when you're as severely monolingual as I am haha
That Lubu doesn’t have an alternative end where he shit stomps Cao Cao
I agree the designs are amazing
1: I'd love to see a follow-up to this for Mouso month 2021
2: Got it on sale, it isn't too bad now.
Being able to play test each character and decide which one to buy would have made for a much more satisfying experience.
As I am only really playing 4 heroes, but ended up buying the full game to narrow down which heroes had movesets I genuinely wanted (the DLC daughter of Dong Zhuo is my fav).
I think what Koei should have done was scale back the size of this game. Instead of a huge open world make it a much smaller semi-open world (which is still much bigger than your typical DW level) and put like maybe 2-4 safe camps/towns where you can recover and change/upgrade equipment and accept some side quests. There should also be less but more interesting side quests and due to there being less side quests and a smaller semi-open world each level shouldn't take more than an hour or two to finish (giving you more chances to play other characters). I think that's how Koei could make an open world Dynasty Warriors work. Aside from the open world aspect of it Koei should bring back the weapon variety from DW 8 and just use the tried and true combat system of DW 7 & 8 with maybe some minor tweaks and enhancements if they want to. Last but not least just bring back the voice cast of DW 7 & 8, they were good and know how to play their characters as well as pronounce names properly so it's best to just use them again.
I also think a more semi-open world style would work better. They did it fairly well in DQH2 and they could have still increased the scale from that. I also agree that the combat system of the older games is great and could just use some improvements to make it that much better. I actually have a video coming out on Monday where I talk about this stuff lol
Also about the voices, I have a feeling we won't ever hear English coming back unless they can guarantee sales from it. Since it's the Japanese head office that makes those decisions, the Western market can't do anything to really help make English voices a reality.
Much prefer this idea, in-terms of the stages. However I do partially disagree with you when it comes to combat, as I think 9s combat with some growth has potential to be absolutely fantastic. Right now it feels limited, but if they mixed the old combo system with this one (think it would be possible with the right tweaking and coding) oh man the combat would BEASTLY! Whilst the old combat did feel more "complete" it was still lacking, not as much as the new one, but it wasn't perfect.
I think they have a great basis for Dynasty Warriors 10. They just need better voice direction, return to the old system and spruce it up or improve this one, focus on making it feel alive, return some old weapons and allow custom characters, improve air and strategy, and custom empires and I am PRETTY SURE it'll be the best Dynasty Warriors game. It'd not take a lot to make a fantastic sequel. I just hope they understand that instead of copy their Samurai Warriors 5 approach, no disrespect to that game, but it doesn't feel like the correct approach with Dynasty Warriors specifically.
Then again with how they butchered ROTK14, as much as I play it, I don't have too much hope.
the one thing that has irked me in most of the newer games is the unit roster for the actual soldiers and the non-existent morale system. In the older games that I played (3,4,5), your roster the army was much more diverse in my opinion. The basic unit always had a sergeant and 4 peasants and the more elite ones had elite sergeants and guards. And each of these units had different stats. The more elite one could actually take on several units since they also had better stats in every category, but could also attack more frequently. On top of this having a morale system reinforced these units by giving them buffs if you killed a bunch of units or prevented/did certain events for the battle. This allowed weaker, smaller unit(armies) to be able to fight much larger armies and even officers. This was certainly a more diverse system than what they had from 6 onward.
I feel like DW7 and 8 had a noticible moral system, especially 8 on higher difficulties. In DW9 though it feels like it's all you. I never felt like my allies were doing anything at all.
I just wish that they can do a dynasty warriors 4 remaster etc or a DW1 VS fighting game with ps4 or ps5 graphics.
Nice content bud and DW 4 it’s my favorite at the moment.
Dynasty Warriors 5 Xtreme Legends is my favorite because of Destiny Mode 😂
That needs to come back. Especially in Empires.
@@ChrisGildart yes I hope it will come back in their future installments 💯
It's nice to see someone actually try to find positives from this game lol I feel like alot of reviewers dont really know what bad video games are tbh. DW9 ain't perfect but its hella more fun than 1-5 in my opinion.
I still think it's one of the worst ones. But I see what it was trying to do. I'll play it over DW2 and am currently writing a Comparison episode between DW9 and DW6, so I'll hold my opinions on that. But I would prefer to play DW3-5 over this one personally.
Dw 3-4 are the best
@@ChrisGildart If they go with this style for the next game atleast they have alot to build and improve upon. This game could have Been really good. The idea and concept was good IT just wasn't well executed. It felt rushed and incomplete.
One thing that comes to my mind is they should've focused on quality over quantity, less would've Been more for this title.
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I really enjoy this game. I don't understand the hate for it. I've played the older ones, and I've played this one. I like both. Can't be the same game doing the same thing every time, right?
Imo DW9 should not have been numbered DW game. It should have been another IP, a new IP. It just doesn’t feel like Dynasty Warriors.
@@ElfHostage Like "Dynasty Wars" instead of Dynasty Warriors?
i like it now that its all patched, the music is amazing, i like exploring to break up combat, and FINALLY WE GET A CHINESE DUB. i mean come on its so cool to finally hear chinese warlords speaking the language.
I still haven't really appreciated a lot of the music properly I don't think, but I saw that all the Dynasty Warriors music is on Spotify now so I'll need to listen through again.
honestly what i have issues with is that the open world feels and looks like is from a ps2 game. the other thing that really bothers me is the in game cutscenes they are so bland characters are just standing there just talking so boring. there is a certain scene where they are just drinking and talking that scene is really simple but its so good why couldnt they try to do that more. ive been skipping a lot of dialogue just cause it feels like nonsense or like it really doesnt matter. but im having the same issue i want to play something else but i keep playing the damn game cause of how simple it is to just turn it on and just go do something without thinking to much about it.
I wouldn't say these are PS2 level graphics. The world might be PS3 or early PS4. But those conversations are super boring. I call them cardboard-cutout-scenes because they aren't very expressive. SW5 did them, but added more expression to the character models.
@@ChrisGildart yeah I'm exaggerating about the graphics it's more the layout of everything. Some textures look like they haven't loaded. And structures look like they were just placed there like a sims game. I do know for sure this game has made me not like Cao Cao, don't know if he is this bland in all DW games. By the way this is my first DW game that it's not a spinoff with the skin of another franchise.
8:06 did you want the full DW 6 + DW 9 combo? 😂 (The weapon he is using lol)
I'd honestly prefer the full DW6 combo than the DW9 one lol
@@ChrisGildart DW6 was what made me play 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9. DW6 was the first Dynasty game I tried
Samurai Warriors 5 so far looks promising. I like that there is aerial attacks now with charge moves and I'm loving the new character designs for it especially Hanzo Hattori 😎
Pretty sure the perfect dynasty warriors game is possible, they just need to pick a style and improve it not just do whatever. They don't know what they want to do with the game.
They're definitely all over the place with what they want to do with this series.
Waiting for dynasty warriors 10
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I really, really didn’t like this game. This one sits below 6 as easily my least favorite warriors game.
This game feels like the latest assassins creed lol but with tons of character rooster
Pros: ...
Cons: Yes.
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Hopefully Koei have learnt from DW 9, cause I think we can all assume Samurai Warriors 5 will likely be open world too. DW 9 overall is okay, I agree with the voice acting, it isn't great but definitely not the worst. The weapon clones are annoying but there are some variations to the moves for each clones and it is still fun doing the flow attack through loads of peons. Each character having their own story definitely buffs up the replay ability of the game. I don't know how difficult it would of been but for me, if Koei kept the DW 8 movesets with the EX system and maybe implemented the state combo system as well it would of been more beneficial than just getting rid of a perfect gameplay foundation built in DW 8. I agree with everything you stated in this review, Overall I do think this game shouldn't of come out this year, especially now with WO4 being released THIS YEAR with DW8 Weapons/movesets, tells me Koei rushed this game out for some reason. This game could of waited until 2019 imo, Koei could of worked more on the gameplay and each character having a unique weapon rather than the clones. That being said DW9 is still better than 6.
I have a feeling Koei will be going back to stage based games. I've heard the in Japan and China the game wasn't as well received as previous ones. But I do think that Dynasty Warriors CAN work in open world. Koei just needs to do a bit more research on how you make their world more interesting and make players want to keep playing.
I think a pre-patched XL CE version with all the characters and weapons available from the onset would help ease at least some of the ill will generated by this release, but I think Koei Tecmo needs to be careful, because they're not making multiplayer-focused eSports titles like the sort that gets away with being scummy.
100 hours in DW9, I think its wonderful. There is huge obvious flaws, but its got its charm
If the cities had more immersion omg I would love it, the cities are all so wonderful to walk through
My thoughts exactly. Playing it still right now. As strange as it sounds I find the game relaxing when it needs to be.
DW5 is the best and only Great version of all game history
Agreed
Closely followed by dw8
1.DW3
2.DW5
3.DW8
@@leebarr5529 3 ain't too bad but controls are annoying
Just finding these reviews for DW.. BEEN A HUGE FAN SINCE THE THIRD INSTALLMENT AND HAVE LOVED IT EVER SINCE.
As far DW 9 I still love the idea of an open world, cause this history actually did take place so think it is cool they did it that route I want them to cont ok une with that. Along with adding to the fullness of the world (merchants, patrol troops, criminals, and etc. Classic RPG mechanics with what have already implemented). I hope they take a route of continuing this idea. While making the world fuller as you said and I stated, but also keep the intimacy with characters, story, and combat. They have shown they can create the intimacy with the story DW7 ( that story was gripping, I would just replay that game to watch the 'Dynasty warriors" movie!) The state combo system isnt terrible. I think they should flesh it out, make certain chains from each reaction perse. This installment has me fascinated in the hybrid of RPG and Hack n' slash if perhaps they took some mechanics from AC and implemented them in the game. Not nessicarily fascinating them but having also grappling attacks like in DW6 those where so cool just doing a quick grapple on an officer or soldier to push them away or kill them. Also like with the musous make some grappling as they introduced in DW7. The one verses a thousand is funn but I think I am ok with 1 vs 500 cause that may be a better combat system for some cool intimate grappling moments and also a vas fuller world. Rather than trying to fight a thousand mindless AI. I kind of want to see if they continue this idea cause I am still deeply fascinated with this open world thought.
Honestly an Empires game with this open world concept could work really well
Yeah, for me the only cool thing of this game are the new looks of characters (and music, ofc)
I'm a series veteren and this is the one DW game I just cannot get into. I feel it was a great idea not fully executed the best way it could. I've cleared one or two story modes and after that I had zero interest in the same old side quests and exploring and just warped to the objectives. The constantly repeating side quests were a down side to em :S Saying that.. I am looking forward to Dw9 Empires as I ALWAYS love the Empires series so.... let's see how that goes
I never finish the story mode for any characters. I like something new but DW9 is just too empty to me. maybe they should make the stage base but bigger instead.
i havent spoken mandarin since primary school (its forced into the curriculum in hk ughh) and i could still homehow understand what you said in the intro lol
you did pretty good ngl 👍
Thanks! I was trying to learn for a while. Haven't touched it in a while.
@@ChrisGildart learning a new language when ur passionate abt it is fun :D keep up the good work!
I want to get a DW4 remaster
Same here.
@@ChrisGildart what if they do and they also add Like DW3 maps and the way you get weapons, like if you are at a level 9 weapon you can switch back to a level 1
i am really disapointed that in wo 4 there was no vs mode..gauntled.....character customatization.......looking foward to your review of WO4
Oh I'll be taking notes the entire time I'm playing WO4 for my review.
@@ChrisGildart I'm also waiting for WO4 review
When will you do a pro and con of the orochi seires?
I'll be reviewing WO4 sometime. My estimate is within a month or two to write, record, and edit the script.
This a 7/10 and DW2 a 4/10? I would flip those scores around.
i rather play dw9 than dw 2 lmao pretty sure you'd do the same thing
@@ActualHorrify Absolutely not. 9 is the only one in the franchise I don't find remotely enjoyable. It's a grand ambitious game that ultimately failed to deliver substance.
I could not agree more
Yup. Nope. Season passes? Pay walls? Dynasty Warriors is Dead to me now. I'm just going to go back and take what I've got and be happy with that. All good things come to an end. Time to live in the past just like my heroes.
I honestly prefer Dynasty Warriors 7, Xtreme Legends and 8 along with Xtreme Legends. Honestly the Empires expansion are not my cup of tea.
I prefer 7 also. I haven't played 8. I agree, Empires isn't for me either. I also like Samurai 4 II and Warriors Orochi 4. Between those 3 I think you've got all the hack n' slash you need...lol... :D
Actually can't you get skills and accessories to change your attack speed, cancel types and skill triggers? I don't remember combat being the EXACT same from start to finish
What do u guys think dynasty warrior 10 will be ?
It's difficult to say. KT tend to lean more toward the Japanese market and I heard they liked DW9's open world. I feel like they could refine it more and release a successful open world game. But with WO4 being big now they could go back to stage based... it's very up in the air.
same game with more stuff to do in between fights, better VA's, and a refined combat system... and better cutscenes... btw i have never played a real dynasty warriors before, i am going into 8 soon, so any tips for a future fan of the franchise who may or may not buy dynasty warriors 10 and onward (we'll see what 9 xtreme legends comes up with)
I have a feeling we won't get a DW9XL. At least not in the traditional sense. We might see it as a game of the year addition where it comes with all the DLC.
As far as tips for newcomers to the Warriors franchise, honestly DW8 is one of my personal favourites. If you're looking at the Xtreme Legends Complete Edition on PS4, Switch, or PC you're going to get the best package.
2020 probably, they need to make a new game from the ground up to clean the shitstain dw9 was. But knowing koei, they will probably take until 2022.
@@ChrisGildart personallyifthey can refine it I'd like samurai warriors 5 to be open world
I still don't know if I want this game or not might wait for a price drop but Good Review.
That's what I'd recommend. Unless they put out a big patch. It's just not what we need for an open world Warriors game. Not terrible, but nothing I'd go back to and binge a night of gaming on.
Koei know to make good characters and soundtracks
I'm really hoping we dont end up with a cycle for the series, where we get a good game, a game that's more of the same, and then a complete overhaul that the fans hate. between from 4 to 9, we've seen this happen twice now.
Kirk Thornton makes Xiahou Dun sound like a badass. After all, he voiced the “Wolf of Mibu”, Saito Hajime
He had been recast for 9, though
@@fierytigergaming8112 I feel that Xiahou Dun sounds more stern and tough with Kirk Thornton as his voice actor
Omg this feels SO EMPTY!!! I hate DW2,but you can bet yo ass I'd find more enjoyment with that than THIS one. This WHOLE GAME is a CON.
Not gonna lie...I like Zhuge Liang's new VA more. The turning point that gave it to me was how he exclaimed "I call upon the thunder!" during his Musou attack. I know classic Zhuge Liang's calmness during every line, even more serious ones, is part of his personality, but I do like a BIT of three dimensions for my DW characters.
I just started playing this game recently. Downloaded the free trial, and bought my fave character for $3. I'm enjoying the heck out of it.
It always seems like the first DW game for the next gen of consoles isn't gonna be good PS2 - 2, granted 2 only really seems to be bad in hindsight, PS3 - 6, PS4 - 9 (because 8 was just a remaster/ GOTY edition of the PS3 version).
Kinda has me worried if we get a DW10
This is like the biggest hot mess that I play on a regular basis. Been playing Dynasty Warriors since I was in grade school so I definitely give nostalgia some of the blame, but I’ve been playing it fairly regularly since it came out, tryin to work through all of the characters stories.
I don’t think it’s the worst thing to ever happen to Dynasty Warriors like some people do, but it’s definitely got a ton of wasted potential. Sad too, because I feel the story was told the best in this game (minus those god awful “cutscene” animations) , which is what keeps me coming back lol
I don't mind DW9, honestly. I'll still throw it in to play, especially now that I have an Xbox One X. I'm going for 100% achievements again.
All this time I was waiting for a new outfit for Lu Bu. So far they haven't bothered. But with every new patch and extra feature they've put into DW9,
it's gotten considerably better. The Trials, with all updates in mind, present a real challenge. Especially the Cursed Beasts stones, basically
animal boss battles. I still haven't figured out how to beat them even now.
My pros about this game are the landmarks and scenery. For example, the HuangLong just northwest of ChengDu, beautiful sight.
And the fact that battles are no longer isolated on a small map, and enemy armies are in a more full scale, especially during Seige battles.
Mounts when fully leveled up go CRAZY fast. They help with getting around the battlefield as well if you don't like how the Flow Combat System works.
And yes, they also help when you do your initial exploration of the entire landscape. Needless to say, it'll take well over a day to cover the whole map.
My cons, naturally is the English dub cast they ended up with. That was really because they couldn't get the original VOs, due to the #PerformanceMatters protest. Yet some of them nail their roles better then most. Such as the English dub for Xu Sheng was perfect.
And the game engine itself is still looking a bit buggy, yet regardless I managed to get over that and still enjoyed it.
Overall, I admit it's far from the best, but it's still not really the worst. DW6 still has the worst entry in my book.
This is a unique review, I enjoy watching it. For once, it's not full on 'completely bash on DW9', even if the cons outweigh the pros, you still mentioned the pros. Good job.
Though I do have one question. What are your thoughts of the new characters introduced in this game? Are they good or bogged with problems too, like the game?
I don't really feel many of the new characters have much weight to them. Cheng Pu, Yuan Shu, and Hua Xiong are the only ones I felt needed to be made unique with some characters still being left as generic. Though I do like Xin Xianying.
one more thing Dong Zhuo 138 A.D-May 22 ,192 A.D
Compared to the other Warriors games?
This was abyssmal.
They need to add like 100 players per server in this huge ass world, not 2 players it just not right to me, and add a customized characterization
I recently started playing Warriors Orochi 4 again and I really want to play Dynasty Warriors. But this game just ain’t it
Go with 8xl. Its on ps4 aswel and its much truer to the series higher quakity standard
I found Samurai Warriors spirit of Sanada to be better :3 not to mention DW8
Spirit of Sanada and DW8XLCE are the two best games in both series in my opinion. Mechanically solid and well told stories.
I hope the upcoming empires version is the game to get.
I still haven't played this game because I don't have a machine powerful enough. I really want to though, the ability to run around open-world ancient China is really tempting.
What happened to Musou May? Did that end?
Hey man, Musou May is still going on. I've been pretty busy so I haven't been posting the links on social media, but the videos are still being uploaded daily until the end of the month.
16:01 So about that...
Great video though! I can see below you would have lowered the rating based on losing interest. I was the same. It got very stale, very quick. Also the DLC practices are becoming a little bit too crazy for me. I only picked up the first season pass. But yeah, just completed your Dynasty Warriors Review series. Subscribed!
Thanks dude! I'm glad you enjoyed the videos. I think I'd bring up the score back to what I gave it thanks to the DLC and patches, but initially I do feel I rated it too high. Season pass 2 and 3 were much better in my opinion with the new scenarios.
At least, rolling and parry come back. I genuinely believe those are playing an significant role of DW game.
I uninstalled the game after 70 hours of gameplay. I'm a thousand times more dissapointed than i was with dw6. It's just not dynasty warriors, it's a random open world sandbox with combat that makes me sleep and dissapointing cutscenes and story/character progression. It's just not a musou game. I wouldn't be so upset if this was like a spin-off empires title.
I've said that too. If this was a spin-off the reception to it would have been much better.
Open world would work with Empires.
Honestly man the only thing i would love in DW9 open world is simple rather than waiting for you for a battle to start the battles to keep going without you example you didnt manage to help Sun jian at hu lao gate and he got defeated now that force is coming to flank at the main camp and on another play though Sun jian could have defeated them and reach first Dong Zhuo . Also some AI vs Ai NEEDS improvement i waited at a battle for give or take 60 mins and the only one that kicked the bucket was Lian shi while Sun Quan was asking for help for about 50 mins he didnt die (thats because as soon as the AI officers stop fighting (at distance) they will replenish their HP to full (and another weird factor that the ai for that to end fast there must absolutely noy be any mobile unit capaitns mixed into the fight). but overall aside from the naggativity i really liked the game gives me hopes for DW10
That is an amazing idea. They could run with it if they stick to open world aspect in Dynasty Warriors from here on, they couldn't apply it to the entire roster as that would be an enormous amount of work just not possible in few years, but it would continue as a series of various characters having their stories out in the open world, affected by your decisions.
@@BlingBoyOto imagine making the open world aspect more exciting with characters reacting to your actions. For example, try entering the Imperial Palace and start raising hell like a psycho and guards will react by chasing you and try to attack you or rescue someone who’s being held hostage by hostile forces and you’ll be rewarded for a job well done
I downloaded a trial and couldn't finish it I hated it. I liked the DW style not this RPG. I ended up spending an hour on the first mission and didn't finish it most of it was just running around, hate the RPG convos instead of the over the top cut scenes, hate the new hub and the forced mini map, hate the combat got pure bored, didn't feel like a warriors game at all for me.
New voice acting sucks. I was Dun and his voice grinded on me high pitched, his voice used to be deep, growly and badass in old games
Loved this game. Still do.
Glad to see someone likes this game.
@@xmarksthespot1372 Its one of my favorite games of all time :)
Wish I could see the game that way. Unfortunately, I can't.
Do a new review with the new patches please
I'd love to, but these reviews take a lot of time and I'm working on a bunch of other projects. I also don't know if my rating would change much, but they've definitely added some things I'm enjoying.
Patches can't really fix this game much lol
eandjproductions2 every game learns there mistakes they will make it perfect in the future we should support the koei that’s what we should do
Lol i see you everywhere supporting this game. Looking forward to the super bosses like lighting bear or flame tiger
@@JassomJassom-mc2ez I've been a huge supporters of the Warriors franchise (Dynasty and Samurai) since DW2, literally played every game. But one thing I always do is wait for the price to drop, so I can trade in the previous versions and not pay a whole lot for the new one.
I just played the DW9 demo 2 days ago, since now the price dropped to $20, I figured let me try it out...so glad I didn't buy, this game is horrible. DW3 looked better than this. Graphics are abysmal, resolution is a mess, horses run into walls, launch attacks are a cheesefest, cutscenes are a joke, and voice acting was just ridiculous.
The new movesets were great, I liked how they fit each character, but they changed it from a unlockable linked attack system to just basic button mash, it gets old quick. It's a moot point anyway because thr game doesn't give you incentive to try out every character. Because of it's long, tedious, grindy nature, starting all over with a new character is a chore now. How did they think this was a $60 - $90 game?
I get that they wanted to spice it up and try something new, especially jumping to strictly current gen. But in their attempt to enter new territory, they got away from what made it such an enjoyable experience in the first place. They could've easily used the Empires system and expanded that into their own style of open world. I'm sorry, but this game is so far away from what the franchise was meant to be. I'll wait for DW10.
Still waiting for empires 😤
I'm not sure that they'll do an Empires.
Shame
If they changed a few things the idea of nine would be epic add army controls custom characters and soldiers etc and events and a better English cast or better directing then the games idea can be salvaged but whatever.
@@angelvaldez3536 the standard edition should had designed army control and Empire Vagabond troops by taking Unity Pro's greatest options. And yet NO CUSTOM CHARACTERS FOR Nine characters, they could had used custom characters to advertise 9 and it is much easier to add custom Unity addon-tools to the game but Koei fails at Coding. Not Unity's fault but language in C# is too difficult.
FreelanceArt101 I prefer they made a new empire that way they can just rid the old combat system and add a new one with all these new things and even then maybe add something that gets rid of the unnecessary size of the map to help performance.
Congrats dynasty warriors 9 empires has been announced
Looks still kinda fun.
I like DW9 , The music , character, and sound effect and grapich of course , But there is one very fatal flaw , the voice actor ,..😭😭 , i Really like Lu Bu voice in 2 - 8 , But in 9 , Look! , The all voice actor is like naahhhh yaaa is suck