Are Budget Bikes Worth Considering? || New MTB || Voodoo Braag

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  • @sofajams662
    @sofajams662 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Having recently learned to ride in my 40’s, and not knowing if this would be a hobby with longevity, I bought a used Carrera Vengeance 3x8 which was relatively cheap. It’s not missed a beat, easy to maintain and it’s given me loads of confidence in the short time I’ve been on bikes.
    I’ve just upgraded to the Voodoo Horde, which I receive next week. While still at a moderately low level price point (£675 at time of posting), it is a significant upgrade to my Vengeance.
    The whole excitement of a bike is getting out there. If a budget bike can do that, I’d say it’s worth every penny 👌
    Nice video fella 👏👏

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks for the comment and I couldn't agree more. Enjoy your new Horde when it arrives! Happy cycling!

    • @grumpy-dad3701
      @grumpy-dad3701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Enjoy those ever increasing longer rides. I had a 30 year gap from my younger years riding bikes. Haven't looked back since 2021.

  • @colinwellman9480
    @colinwellman9480 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like your thoughts on 'cheap' bikes. The ones I'd steer clear of are the Supermarket bikes, really low quality and won't last long.
    I've been repairing my own bikes for 50 years and in that time I've seen some wonderful improvements, to name brakes and gears are just two.
    The caveat is that not all new things are an improvement on what already exists. Just like golf and fishing you can spend a fortune and not enjoy it anymore than you did.
    If you're doing serious off-road, racing or time trialling then you'll need to spend more but you still need the legs.
    I just hope your video encourages more people to get a bike and find out what a great hobby cycling is.

  • @WanderingJay
    @WanderingJay ปีที่แล้ว +7

    great vid, well said, Im just getting into cycling, and ive had to rein myself in because of the "budget is crap" mentality. I went into a local bike shop with £450 and was almost laughed out of the shop cos that was my budget. so i bought a Dawes super galaxy, bout 30 yrs old! had to do some maintainance, but runs a dream, but it hates the cycle paths round here, too many punctures, lol, so heading out tomorrow to pick up a cheap 2nd hand mountain bike to get me out and about round Dartmoor. long story short , buy cheap til you figure out what you want/need a bike to do, then spend ya pennies wisely, and yer, cheap bikes a great place to learn bike maintainance, ive had great fun restoring/servicing the Dawes.

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment and enjoy your new bikes and cycling journey (whatever the budget! ). I remember getting bundled/sneered out of a store years ago when I went in to pick up a cheap Gary Fisher hybrid bike, using their 'build it' service. They hadn't even bothered to index the gears, so I went straight back in and insisted they set it up properly the same way they would for the four grand bike next in the queue. I'd recommend Schwalbe Marathon tyres on the Dawes for really good puncture resistance. Restoring an old Dawes is definitely on my to do list. Happy cycling!

  • @richb7025
    @richb7025 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my lad went to sherwood pines last weekend did the red route plus the big jumps on the jump park with his voodoo bragg no problems

  • @clippingin1593
    @clippingin1593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make some good points.
    The definition of 'starter bikes' has changed beyond recognition in the c.30 years I've been involved with cycling.
    A lot of it is tech-driven, there are so many parallels between current road-racing and F1.
    In the early 90s you could buy a near-professional spec racer for £1500, prob. £3k adjusted for inflation.
    I'm sure there's a similar arms-race with off-road too... so the idea of the 'bare minimum' shifts upwards, yet the spec of your new Voodoo is greatly superior to the gas-pipe, no-sus, cantilever brake MTBs we were riding in the 90s.
    Gaddings Dam at 3:30 ?
    Happy riding.

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comment. Yes I think there's been some considerable starter bike 'baseline' inflation over the years - both on the tech and price front. Brand snobbery - or perhaps if I'm being more generous skillful/better use of marketing and social media by the more high end companies - contributes to this, but with a lot of people being told not to even look at some brands (that knock out perfectly decent starter bikes in my opinion), which is a shame. Definitely can see the comparisons with F1 (aerodynamics, materials, surface finish) and to an extent the trickle down components and design. Twas indeed Gaddings - lovely local spot on a quiet day! Happy cycling!

  • @platty-wv8uk
    @platty-wv8uk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mint video! I have a voodoo bantu 2018 and its rips had replace drive train recently as i bought it from a friend that had it just sat around so got into mountain biking as i have adhd and budget bikes like the voodoo is a great entry level low budget great rides #bikelife keep the great videos going 🤟🏽

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment. Enjoy getting out on your Bantu - it's a great bike! Happy cycling!

  • @Sparky-ov1ot
    @Sparky-ov1ot ปีที่แล้ว

    You've hit the nail on the head! It's the engine that makes the difference, and the will.

  • @Kristian_Saile
    @Kristian_Saile ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great points and I will add, the more high end the mountain bike, the more capable it is, the harder the trail has to be to get a challenge from it. I find riding a more budget hardtail can offer more fun on trails that aren’t quite as technical. My wife just “downgraded” to a Rockhopper Eljte. Initially it was just to use as a budget gravel bike but then she ended up liking its speed, simplicity, and lack of worries of scratching it/laying it down so much, it has become her primary bike for dirt. She is probably going to do some races on it. The underbiking movement is alive and well. 😆

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 'underbiking movement', that's a great way of putting it! I think you definitely have to pick your lines a bit better on a (budget) hardtail, which is kind of fun. Thanks for the comment and happy cycling!

  • @MrDazP1adv3ntures
    @MrDazP1adv3ntures ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Them trails look very familiar.
    I totally agree with you about the functionality of a bike and the price of bikes nowadays and you raised some interesting points there. I try to pitch it within a budget by searching for good quality components at the right price then fitting the parts in the shed as part of the hobby.
    It can take a while to build a good bike with higher spec parts and over the years I have acquired some really nice pieces of kit at a fraction of the cost. Most of the guys I know have £7k £8K plus....bikes. ( They get replaced every other year or so too ! )
    Personally I'm not into cycling at that price and at times it can look like people are keeping up with the Jones's. It would be nice to have the latest Pinarello Dogma but that's almost the price of a new car !.
    I have used Raleigh bikes now for 10 years and people often look down their noses at them. They don't creak, they are just as quick and ride just as good as the "Big name" brands
    Some people I have met will even say that a particular £££ bike rides really well and is comfy. This makes me chuckle because in general you should have a bought a bike that is basically your size to begin with. A comfy bike could well be down to tyre choice and running at a lower pressure, it is as simple as that.
    I have never understood why people who do not race need £1000 power meters fitted for example and that aero bikes now are so complicated to do basic maintenance on them because everything is integrated which means roadside repairs are out of the question.........
    Sorry about waffling on here but I find it all very thought provoking.
    My winter commute bike is probably worth less than scrap value but I keep it going with old parts and just buy new wearable parts such as pads and chains as when. This bike is comfy, practical, it is usually a disgusting dirty mess but it puts a smile on my face.

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really interesting to hear your thoughts and I couldn't agree more with all of that, especially about what makes a comfy bike and can it be repaired roadside. I switched jobs last year (now a 180 mile round trip to the office when I go in) and about a decade of daily cycle commuting came to an end - really miss it (and the hunka junk bike - but perfectly set up! - I used in all weathers for the task!).

    • @MrDazP1adv3ntures
      @MrDazP1adv3ntures ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@onemorecyclist I have done the same commute for the last 21 years and this could come to an end in the next couple of months. I couldn't face driving to work so will have to look local if things don't go to plan.
      I took the MTB out today and had a proper tough ride over to Gaddings and the PBW.
      It is a lot harder than road cycling that is for sure !

  • @stevenfreeman7798
    @stevenfreeman7798 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid!. And so true!!. You don't need to spend a fortune to get a great bike. You do need to spend a fortune if you want a super light one though bit does super light mean strong and durable?. Probably not as much as people think.

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment. I really like the super light top end bikes - and interesting as to how they compare in terms of durability - but I don't think I'll ever fall into thinking I actually need one! Happy cycling!

  • @chrisbow1776
    @chrisbow1776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I went on my first bike ride today in 15 years after digging out my old bike from the shed. Got 5 miles, and the chain decided to snap while trying to peddle up a hil from a stop position. I'm now considering buying a new one, but so many choices, trying to decide on a hardtail or full suspension. All I will use it for is riding off-road but mainly on the flat around reservoirs etc. Great advice to anyone who is not an hardcore biker and never will be, no need to spend £1000 ++++ on a bike, but at the same time, I am looking at the bikes on the Halfords website and thinking, should I spend £500, the £750 looks good, but damn! the £1200 one looks nice, haha.

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Chris. Kudos for getting back out on the bike after such a long time. New Bike day is always fun, whatever the budget! Hope you get sorted and happy cycling! Maybe check out joining British Cycling in order to access 10% off at Halfords. If they still do this and depending what bike you go for you could save a few extra ££ doing that. Thanks for the comment and happy cycling!

  • @bailzzzzzz
    @bailzzzzzz 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    On sale £464 currently. Bought as a spare to keep at my parents, seems like an absolute bargain look forward to it arriving

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think that's a great price for what you get!

  • @chris53small
    @chris53small ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats so true about the worry of theft
    i have a plus £2000 ebike Hybrid that i commute on But have never stopped to go in a shop for fear of it being stolen and even though i have insurance against theft or accident im not leaving it outside alone EVER,
    Great vlog
    Enjoyed your opinion

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the nice comment, Peter. I'm slightly afraid to try an ebike because I know I'll end up wanting one. Happy cycling!

  • @stevenporter9631
    @stevenporter9631 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got the exact same bike in blue absolutely love it

  • @andylinder132
    @andylinder132 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video sir. And well said. Completely agree. I’ve just ordered my voodoo braag from Halfords. £580 After watching your video….. I’m sure it will be fine. 👍👍

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, hope you like it. I'm just heading back from bikepacking in the Highlands on mine and it's held up brilliantly. Thanks for the comment and happy cycling!

  • @Devil-ou2pi
    @Devil-ou2pi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to get this from halfords just for casual road riding to keep fittness levels up do people recommend this bike or a carrera hellcat both similar prices right now at Halfords

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For what you're looking at riding-wise I'm sure both would be suitable. Not had a Carerra MTB but I had one of the road bikes a few years back and it was faultless for the price. Happy cycling!

  • @bluejoe1873
    @bluejoe1873 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love ma Voodoo am a Road Rider but every time get my MTB out BIG Smiles

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Always fun to mix it up on and off road! Thanks for the comment and happy cycling!

  • @TheRealColt
    @TheRealColt ปีที่แล้ว

    I've still got a 2018 voodoo bizango going strong, that's been on a good few hardcore trails and done countless thousands of miles since i got it. The 1X drivetrain has been honestly unbelievably good, i remember when i first got it and built it up out the box i was upgrading from an old bianchi 6600 mountain bike with a 3X drivetrain and 26er wheels and deary me the difference brought a tear to my eye, the voodoo would practically pedal itself up hills and just fly up to top end cruising speed like a dream. Still have this bike now and tbh ive not looked after it at all like i should of either and its still performing well on long commutes and trail rides. however the biggest annoyance for me in regards to cheapish bikes and id imagine this be more so with cheaper than bizango bikes (mine was £585 on deal at the time) is the upgradability and cost of replacement parts. At the time the bizango had already won a good few awards for being the best sub 750 and sub 1000 pound bike and they accomplished this by choice selecting parts, the bizango had good pros in that it has a brilliantly designed frame, cutting edge drivetrain(at the time) decent hydraulic brakes and air forks. however it has cheap wheels that didnt last all that long i think after doing whinlatter and maybe 1000 miles the back wheel had cracks in it and i had to replace it, add on another 2000 miles and the chain snapping and needing replacing, really the cassette and chain ring and jockey wheels should be changed but it would be £200 pound replacement for the like for like drivetrain, like i said I've not been good on maintenance so the suntour raidon forks are likely shot to bits and have lost like 70-80% of their low end sensitivity and its pretty awkward and convoluted to find a cheap replacement fork for them or parts for suntour forks so all in all, cheap bikes are good but upgradability and replacement parts/maintenance is awkward or that expensive you may as well by another cheap end bike. plus if the wheel fails again itll be a pain to source a 29er backwheel with 10x135mm qr and 11sp hg hub so im looking to upgrade to a bike with modern thruaxles and more updated sram 1X drivetrain.

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your Bizango sounds like it's been an amazing workhorse MTB and having had a couple of Voodoo MTBs I'm not surprised, they're great bikes for the money! I think you raise an interesting issue around potential difficulty replacing parts and whether it turns out to be a false economy. I've not generally found replacing bits on cheap road bikes a problem, or expensive, and thankfully haven't had to replace much on my MTBs over the years, apart for things I chose to swap like post for dropper post etc. I do think when people buy new bikes quite naturally they're not thinking about long term maintenance and whether they'll be able to get the replacements they need. New bike time is a bit more heart over head time, at least for the majority of people I think. One of the things I plan to do at some point is build up a dedicated touring bike from scratch - which I doubt will be cheaper than just buying one ready-made, but at least I'll know all the parts and having sourced them myself, probably have a better idea what to use that's easily replaceable if it fails. Thanks for the comment and happy cycling!

  • @jackh1988
    @jackh1988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What are the gears like on the braag? Was surprised when the guy said how low the selection is but I’m presuming they’re sufficient ?

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Compared to high end bikes (probably 12 speed and >50T large sprockets) the gearing might be considered pretty modest, although I'd say on par with bikes upto about 2 or 3 times the price. For the riding i do I've found them sufficient though in terms of spread of gears etc. and also pretty bombproof in terms of positive and precise shifting. Thanks for the comment and happy cycling!

    • @jackh1988
      @jackh1988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@onemorecyclist thank you appreciate it, due to collect mine tomorrow 😁

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jackh1988 Brilliant stuff! Happy New Bike Day! 🙂

    • @jackh1988
      @jackh1988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@onemorecyclist thank you 😁

  • @JanBanJoovi-ol1qv
    @JanBanJoovi-ol1qv ปีที่แล้ว

    Bicycles have become so expensive these days, that you’re no longer comfortable leaving outside even for a short time while shopping and even if locked properly. Meanwhile if it’s price is just around£200 brand new, the worry might be lessened. I used to own a £2,000 gravel bike. when me and my cycling friends stop on a cafeteria after a leisure biking, I’m sitting with my friends and talking and laughing, but can’t get rid of the thought about my very expensive bicycle being out there, outside, away from my sight. I realise it’s giving me stress as I’m always worried it might get stolen or get scratched, etc. so I’ve sold it. I’m now having peace of mind riding cheap bicycles. I miss the gold old days when bicycles are not as expensive as an entry level motorcycle or even a used sedan. Damn, they surely messed up the bicycle industry.

  • @James-hh1lq
    @James-hh1lq ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lots of bike snobbery out there it’s sad really

  • @hartleyhare99
    @hartleyhare99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate bike snobs😢

  • @halfcan-nitafan5207
    @halfcan-nitafan5207 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Subbed and commented if you have a public email I've a vid I'd like to share about my bike plan biy if not don't worry but you have saved me some money thank you

    • @onemorecyclist
      @onemorecyclist  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't have a public email but thanks for following along and happy cycling.