Hell Let Loose - A Winning Garrison Strategy!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.พ. 2023
- You've put some decent hours into HLL, and you know that the more garrisons your team has, the better. But now it's time to put some real strategy behind your garrison placement.
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Wow! What else can I say except great video!
Well thank you sir!
-"If you're the type of guy to build garrisons hit that like button". If you say that you won't get any likes. Nobody builds garrisons
Except the enemy team haha
159 likes so far :)
I can ask my commander all day long for a supply drop but this mf has fucking free bird solo blasting on full volume dying in the strong point over and over again and doesn't give a fuck.
All the time cause no one else doin it. They seem to forget or jus don't know Garrisons win the game!
Nobody cares this community is casual trash now
Tip for commanders: if you don't have a squad on artillery you will probably have extra munitions. Use your munitions to drop supplies constantly at good potential garrison positions, especially behind enemy lines or areas where your team will advance to. Some of them will get found, but definitely not all of them. Even lazy squad leaders with bad support players are more likely to build those precious garrisons for you when they're walking past a bundle of supplies that's waiting for them.
Yea that's a good tip and something I like to do - proactively drop supplies all around. Saves a lot of precious time if you start losing sectors and your garries disappear with them. Supplies already ready to go for building new garries quickly.
Just started playing commander when my team has lots of players and no commander. All I did was what you recommended in your command video, I asked what squads need and i built garrison. I asked experienced players to fortify and just kept the supplies and garries topped up. I proceeded to win 5 out of 7 games, winning all the ones where i started as commander immediately, even against commanders with far more experience then me. I am level forty and the enemy commanders were level 160 plus. The commendations and praise I got from my team felt great, I even figured out all the powers by the end. My team did everything and i didnt really do much beyond commanding and giving support, its totally different from infantry or armor but it was very fun and rewarding and i leveled commander so fast, like from 0 to the highest level i have in a couple hours 5 i think. Great guides thank you, and the community is so great, i had squad leads teaching me how to command and we executed awesome airheads and some great bombing runs and stuff. Love rhis game and the community in it. Good luck on the battlefield.
Awesome work man, really glad the guide helped! It also really helps having good SL's who are willing to work with you and understand the game as well. Can make Commander an incredibly rewarding experience! Of course you get the occasional bad/frustrating experience as well, but if you stick to the basics of my guide, you'll be in good shape!
Just wait till you go against me as commander
As someone with 300hours on HLL who has just started playing commander, the tips on dropping supplies in the river or on a roof impressed the hell out of me!
Yes it's a great tip!
In addition to half-tracks, the Soviet transport truck (the flatbed) can also be used to transport supplies if they're dropped on top of it by the commander. Just make sure the commander zooms all the way in, and drops it on the back half of the map marker for the truck!
Great video, as always!
Oh no! You’re giving away our secrets! - Thank you for this video. Everyone will need it.
I've got 500hrs+ on this game and still learning... Nice hint about dropping supplies in a river... didn't even think of that! Love the videos mate keep it up
Yea, hides them well!
There are other "situations" where direct sight/ area affect /effective distances are not used but are there to find. One, for example, is placing satchel charges further away from target. Can that help you destroy something. (grin)
Great tip about the red zone garries, and going further away and focusing on halving the distance with outposts
It's a longer term play but pays off usually.
Here's a tip that I should have known since it lost me a game. If you are winning 3-2 on warfare mode with less than 20 minutes left in the game, think twice about building a back side attack garrison because FUCKING EVERY blueberry will spawn on it and you'll end up losing your current point before you can cap the next point. This happened to me and despite me telling the commander to ONLY designate a max of 2 other squads to go on attack, none of them listened and the whole team abandoned all defense, losing us the game.
😅the same happened to me we are winning 4:1 and then lose that game but only i was building garrison they only run forward
All these tutorials are so well done. Very helpful. Thank you.
Great video... but i have one question... "the garisons position of each map you can find in the discription below " you said in the video... I don't see it / them ?
Every SL should ask a team member to switch to Support on a rotation to keep supplies regularly available so that they can build garrisons in friendly and enemy sectors
Man your videos are insanely useful. I just recently started with the game and in my first matches I got frustrated because I just died a bunch. Then I watched your video on how not to do that. While watching I thought "all well and good but I didn´t see most of the guys you killed there". But by applying those simple tips I´ve already improved quite a bit. Still die a lot, but at least I do some useful stuff before that happens.
I´m not that likely to jump into squad lead or commander any time soon, so this video isn´t even immediately useful to me, but its still very interesting and helpful information. So thank you.
From one recon A-hole to another, thanks!
If you play commander remember, it’s not just about communication, but really HOW you communicate.
Had a commander last night who wouldn’t stop talking, and so every officer eventually left the game because he got annoying.
But i remember once i had a commander who was generally pretty quiet but when he spoke he was the most polite person possible. Saying stuff like “alright so let’s try to remember to play our roles everyone, it’s super helpful for the team”
Good point. Make sure your comms have a purpose. That purpose might be important intel, a request for one of your SLs, words of encouragement, or even just some humor. But make sure it's not just constant blabbing with no purpose.
@@SoulSniperYT that’s the thing the commander was trying to be actually helpful, telling people what to do and such. He just wouldn’t stop
Lol well a good commander asks questions and listens to his SLs as well. "How are we holding up at AA Battery guys?"
@@SoulSniperYT every one tried to communicate back at first but after a while it slowly got quiet cuz this dude would not stfu it was pretty bad lol
Ive been in that same scenario. It's tough when you can't even hear yourself think or speak with your own squad.
Great intel. Thank you Sir
I’ve been just playing squad leader and dedicating my time to just garrisons and it’s been so darn helpful
Well done. Thanks.
Dude you are a HLL legend.
LOL at the video editing at 10:32. Well played sir! 😆
Hehe that eye contact tho
Absolutely fantastic
Great video sir
Great help for us new console players!
This video should be mandatory for new players
Agreed lol
@@SoulSniperYT Although isn't the red zone garries bit out of date, can't you only build them in the first two grids or am I imagining it?
Great content, as always. Thanks for that!
One question just came up when looking at the part where you drop supplies into the river or on roofs: Does the height/depth count in terms of the distance?
I mean you can only build a garrison up to 50 meters away from the supplies, right? So if the supplies would be in let's say 20 meters height on the roof of a building and I'm directly underneath it, is the distance then 20 meters or is it calculated from a "2D matrix" and the distance is actually 0? Could make a difference whether or not you're able to build a garrison.
Very interesting question. I do not believe height is taken into consideration, but I guess I'd have to test that to verify. Let me ask my discord community as someone might know the answer.
I play mostly commander, 1 garrison backup safe point is enough, just leave supplies around, and 2-3 in the currently defensive point; the rest 4-5 should be attack garrisons; attacking is harder than defending, so you must surround the enemy point, also most supply drops should be send far behind enemy lines to prepare for the next point so you can have at least 2 garrisons the moment you capture the point to immediately begin attacking the next in waves; and defend garrisons built with supply trucks; and a lot of players have COD mindset, you must make it so that they can play like they'd COD and go like zombies wave after wave from all directions overwhelming the enemy defenses, so the enemy has no choice but to defend, and the moment they attack they are done for in a cap race we are bound to win. This is good for 2 reasons, you win fast, or lose fast, victory will be determined by KD ratio in this circumstances, if the attacking team can do a 1:1 KD then we got the point... otherwise we get steamrolled, games don't drag a lifetime, 30 minutes average; don't wanna be bored in a stall game, its fast paced; either destroy them, or be destroyed; it surprisingly works, 60% of the time you win.
Strat gets ruined by hackers nevertheless, it's very weak against it, need a good server as even 1 or 2 hackers can totally mess it up as they have insane KDs, and this strat is 100% dependent on the team KD being about 1 on average, also doesn't work with Soviets, bad tanks, bad weapons; I've found the Band of Brothers server works very well, but in other servers it doesn't work at all due to blatant hackers, MGs killing all the players from ludicrous distances (400m or so) racking up to 1000 points, and they finding every garrison, even defensive ones the moment it is built regardless of the location. And when they are in your team it just starts a weird battle over ludicrious distances, where none wants to cap, hackers stall the game, so a more offensive strat makes you lose, even if you got your own hackers.
Excitedly waiting for the fortification video! #sapper
Based on your username and profile pic I might need you to give me your best tips!
@@SoulSniperYT Watch and learn, brother.
@@SoulSniperYT ex-Sapper also 👍
Awesome game play brothers !!!
YEAHHHHHHHH NEW VIDEO
Great video.
Thanks!
Good luck on the double drop 😂
Didn’t realize Scotty was your actual brother. That’s so damn cool
Yep! We definitely work well together as a recon team!
Great videos and a Great Server to play on as a new guy like myself. This game offers me bails and bails of additional life frustration which I must really be missing since I keep coming back for more...
Confusing isn't it? lol
The Virus Analogy- Was Great!!!
You've done it again AWESOME VIDEO!!!
Thanks man! All credit to Otter for the virus analogy!
The worst part is, as support, I can rarely find a squad leader willing to pair up and build a garrison. They just ignore me and run to the point
In those cases just pick a point on the map where you think a garry should be built and drop the box in a secluded spot near it. More often than not, a friendly squad leader from another squad will soon pass by and build it, having noticed free supplies on their map.
Oh hey! Thats me!🦦
You should collaborate with the devs to create an actual tutorial because all too often we have no garrisons or outposts, and if we do have garrisons, they're in the middle of a field, open to tank fire, campers, snipers, etc.
Great video!
How does such a great video only have 743 likes???
You gonna get an Artillery guide up at some point? Interested to see your take
Eventually I think so yes. Got a couple other vids on the works first and then I may do that.
I personally feel map and landscape precluding, that 400m is too far for effective garrison attack placement. 200-300 m in a strategically advantageous position is better. In a public match 400m pulls too much cap weight out of utility.
This video is more useful than my university years.
Haha nice
Awesome video still a year later.
Glad you liked it!
So an RPG does not work on the default garrisons?
Great video but there's absolutely no chance of me signing up to be a commander haha
where is the video about the default garrison locations
Commanders almost always ask for nodes right at the beginning.
I'm not sure I agree about not putting a garrison on or right next to the strong point, it allows rapid reinforcement of the point, and as long as you have a couple of offset garrisons away from the strong point its a good thing to do.
I think that gary should be an injection of soldiers into the area, who then go through and set up outposts all over the place. Causing flanks to happen, rather than everyone funneling in from one direction
As a dyed in the wool engineer, I'd like to point out that when the commander, SL, or whoever drives off with the supply truck to build the first garrisons, they should take an engineer with them. They are only going to be able to build one garrison with each supply drop, leaving 100 supplies unused. The engineer can drop off and build two nodes there. They may not be ideally located and may get taken down by the enemy early in the match, but at least you'll have your initial nodes up and producing.
Building Garrison's All the time cause No one else doin it. They seem to forget or jus don't know Garrisons win the game!
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Always for me, is the 2x2 capping zone for placement.
If you're placing a garrison that means you're fighting through 100m of neutral territory then don't do it.
You should always fight through active cap territory. So often I see teams lose, because even though they're fighting well, they are caught up in neutral territory and the enemy is attacking elsewhere in your live defensive territory.
So think: "if my guys have to spend 15 minutes fighting from the garrison into the cap territory, little by little, then can your team hold off the enemy attack whilst you're not counting towards the cap?
Ideally yes, you spawn within the active cap zone so you immediately contribute toward capturing or defending.
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Fairly new to this game but watching your guides helped alot , I have a question having played a few games of H.L.L .
Is there "cheats" being used in this game?, I ask as some players seem to know exactly where you are although you've crawled from cover to cover or even in a building & not moving also is there an aim assist "bot" or such as some headshots I get killed with are a little dubious & how quick some players lock onto you & fire is extremely fast & accurate.
Love the content 👍
There are cheats in every game, unfortunately. But to be honest, most of the time when it feels like there's someone cheating, it's just someone in a really good position who is a skilled shooter.
@@SoulSniperYT Thanks for the prompt reply 👍, personally I don't see the point in playing any game if you need a cheat to prove something.
I'll never understand it man.
Also, people who are genuinely cheating can usually be identified without too much trouble. On the SoulSniper server, we have a number of different ways to check on a player someone accuses of cheating. As Soul (blessed be his name) himself said, it's usually just a really good player. But if it's not, we can almost always tell.
@@ummeli2 yeah I love the game it's brilliant but honestly it's impossible some of the things that happen as I said earlier I have literally been lying prone behind a bank with a large hedge along it next to a wall & still been found & shot somehow.
It puts you off playing tbh but it's evened out by some really good tactical players & squads that you know are playing faur are just better players than you are.
One thing that confuses me a bit is why more people don't "ping" where incoming is coming from it would help loads if everyone did ngl especially if you have the MG42 or a browning set up well to give cover fire.
I am only Lvl 40+ but i always found to use supply trucks for garrisons at the start of the game a bit of a waste.
They drop 2x150 sup's but a garrison at the start of the game costs only 50 sup's. Thats 100 sup's wasted which could be used for nodes.
Especially since the supply class can drop those 50 sup's for the garrison.
That's true but I think the problem is you can't rely on support players to drop supplies instead of just running off into battle. Trying to flamethrower someone lol.
@@SoulSniperYT True 😂
excellent video
Glad you liked it!
100 QI with that half track tip!
at 11:12 then you hear the Discord sound in the video but look for an update on your discord. just to realise that it was the video playing the Discord sound and not your discord 😆
Haha yea I noticed it when I was driving to work the morning I uploaded the video and was listening to it. Lol
The German supplies are Dongs.
Words to live by, really.
Based entirely on the size of real German dongs. My son is half German, and it's, well... it's completely true.
01:55 when he said click the like button , it glowed like a rainbow around the like button, is this a new youtube feature?
Whoa, you're right! I never noticed before, but that's pretty cool!
@@SoulSniperYT great indeed! On a side note SoulSniper,i got HLL few days ago on console, it was my first game ever i used my mic on, i followed your guides since you are great and straight to the point, and in one match i tried to jump to the officer role since our previous officer went away, even with my broken english i had a great time, my squad started speaking and we had a nice time defending a point, we eventually lost but my team had fun and so did i, command also congratulated with me for my first officer role, i met nice people, btw i found a bit hard to hear my teammates and command togheter, ill try to adjust some settings, any advice on that front? Thank you a lot and sorry for the broken grammar and long comment!
Red zone garrisons within 200m for attacking are important with a noob team. If its open then great, everyone floods the point, if its locked, also great, random lonewolves dont all spawn in the middle of nowhere and run arpund uselessly.
Again, this kinda is best for noob teams. I get fussed at constantly for purposely lacking attack garrisons miles away from points, but when randos spawn in huge waves with no SLs keeping them in line you go from a solid defense and solid map control, to letting the enemy walk right in, in a matter of just a couple minutes.
This is especially the case when working for the last point. Everyone just becomes attack zombies and the meta of being backcapped to oblivion is all too common.
I'm aggressive for mid and 4thpoint, beyond that, if recon ismt capping alone, forget it, time to reaccess and regroup
in your lvl 50 and up server, do people actually do this stuff? The game is great, buts its frustrating asking my SL to drop a gary like 8 times in a row and he ignores me completely. Im not 50 yet but im hoping when i get there i can join this server and people will actually coordinate and communicate.
I'd say the level of play is higher on our level locked server, yes. At least people aren't completely new and know there way around the very basics of the game. Depending on what role you play, level 50 actually comes pretty quick. Engineer for example levels up way faster than something like Sniper or Machine Gunner.
@@SoulSniperYT nice, im not like tactical reconnaissance level, but i want SLs to give orders, basically more than just a call of duty session lol, that sounds good. Ive been doing the Engi thing so once im 50 ill be hoppin in bby
I've noticed the vibe of the players in the squad often dictates how actively they communicate and coordinate. Sometimes when I'm frustrated or just not feeling the game I get quiet and just kind of do my own thing. I find that oftentimes the rest of the squad kinda matches my energy. Other times I'm feeling more talkative and getting into it more, and that can be quite contagious. You start calling out some targets, making tactical suggestions, cracking a joke once in a while, etc. and suddenly the whole squad is talking and doing the same. Seriously, humor is really effective when it comes to creating some camaraderie and cooperation.
Only server I play on.
My man!
All my garrison are blessed by our Lord and Savior Trap32.
It's the only way to ensure their safety. I didn't get into that because it's a whole other video!
Most of his guides also work for squad
Hi there, great video as always!
Just a tiny detail jumped my eye. At 6:46 you placed the red zone garry too far in enemy territory. You can't build that far back.
Sorry my pedantic mind couldn't hold back. 😬
All the best and keep up the good work!
Ahhh good catch, you're absolutely correct! I was eyeballing distance from the point and forgot about sector restrictions. Oh well, still illustrates the point I was making. :)
@@SoulSniperYT yeah, absolutely. if there are any red zone garrys built, most of them are far too close to the strongpoints and are locked straight away. in my opinion it should be mandatory to pinch watch your educational vids and those of other content creators to educate all the (new) players, before beeing allowed on the battlefields!
What i dont understand is why it takes 30 seconds to dismantle garrisons when i know it took 3 seconds to build lost cause of this twice and it was stupid i destroyed both of them but 30sec dismantle cheats
garrions in locked territory take 6times longer to dismantle ( 30 seconds)
What where's the explosion when artie hits that garry
1.15
Yea it's weird you can't see the explosion but it certainly turned those guys into hamburger meat.
Phew... You didn't tell all the supply drop tricks. :)
Perhaps that could be a new video
What if my enemy follows this same strategy tho
Then you've got the makings of a great, competitive back and forth battle and the team with the best squads and combat tactics will come out on top!
The Key is Communication
Comments help!
Can't place a garrison at 6:45 3 squares in.
didn't know that half-track one
Yea I was paying more attention to being far enough away from the strong point that I didn't notice I went that deep lol
Highly suggest anyone watching this video to play on his servers on pc!
Everyone is welcome, but for the love of Trap32, please use a mic, and work as part of a team, i.e. your squad. If you don't know what you're doing, ask for help (SoulSniper has an entire video on this). We love having new players on the SoulSniper server, but we want players who are interested in playing HLL like it's meant to be played, using teamwork, strategy, comms, combined arms, and so on. Not like it's COD on steroids.
I see way too many noob commanders try and drop airheads directly on top of the enemy strong point and, god, does it piss me off.
Yea....just gotta make it a learning moment and explain to em why that's not a good idea.
HOW DID YOU COMMENT 12 hrs ago!!
He's my pal and is shouted out in the video (Otter), so I gave him a sneak peek!
The early river mammal gets the worm(?)
@@DoccOtt The bait hadn’t even need set
Fur-bearing quadrupeds are favored on our server.
These videos should be auto installed with the game and be part of the basic training. The game needs it.
Tell Team 17!
They need to give the engineer a supply box or something because having to redeploy and switch classes with someone is one of the most frustrating things in the game
Wtf? You just made the support class useless. Glad youre not on the leash
@@jonttu9186 useless? The support could actually go support the troops instead of being tied to the officers ass. The class isn't just a box of 50 supplies with legs.
Im a guy that like to go behind the lines i have taken out number of garrisons an op,,an supplys..
Might as well forget all this...cauee lately no one wants to build them..if its not changed soon..im done with this game to many dumb squad leads,,dont put them down..an need to put down more than one,garrison..mabe 3 all the way around the objective u r attacking...dont be dumb people