Honestly I do think it would have been a bit too scary for children if they included those scenes in the final cut. Electricity is one of those things that children are taught from a young age is super dangerous, so watching cute animal characters get shocked by a collar would probably have scared kids a lot. Especially since kids often can't seperate fiction from reality very well. I think the electric collar plot points would have been great for audiences 8 and older but too scary for the 3-7 demographic and I can understand why Disney would shelve the idea as they do try to make their movies something that parents can just show to kids without having to worry about their kids being too scared afterwards.
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 True, doesn't really help that even as an adult the idea of what is essentially a society giving people shock collars to keep them in line is straight-up chilling, at least by Disney standards
There was an awesome webcomic called "Zistopia" that came out a while back that took the Zootopia shock collar storyline as its basis, though unfortunately the creator had to cancel the comic for personal reasons a couple of years ago.
hopefully featuring a TH-camr that’s a great narrator next. Vids are super cool & probably well done but bros voice is 1 long lisp & cant sit thru it for hours, respectfully.
I’d like to add a mini honorable mention: Language Arts Through Imagination. Basically these were a set of educational tapes provided to schools from 1988 to 1989. These were roughly 14 minutes which featured Figment, the purple dragon from the Journey into Imagination (Now known as Journey into Imagination with Figment) ride at EPCOT in Walt Disney World, Orlando Florida, teaching kids that happened to magically teleport inside his house in Figonia about Language Arts and many basic reading and writing techniques you would probably learn in English class. Because these tapes were only meant to be distributed to schools, they could not be found anywhere else, thus enlisting them as lost media. However, all of the 11 tapes have been reuploaded onto the internet, and as of writing are still watchable, meaning they are no longer classified as lost media, and can be fully enjoyed by everyone with an internet connection.
Its actually insane how much disney has grown over literally 100 years. I honestly enjoy seeing the more darker and lost side of disney. Love the content strider!
@@JustaHedgehoginSonicBoom IKR?! I wish Disney would bring it back, but alas, we can only dream… (Sorry about that dramatic bit, I’m a dramatic writer)
31:33 I wouldn't be surprised if "the lost Mickey and Minnie porno" was just a Tijuana bible or crude sketches and the story got embellished over the years. It's hard to imagine the artists using the studio equipment to produce a short film like that behind Walt's back, but it is known that many a professional animator or comic artist sometimes worked blue anonymously. It's the type of story that encourages embellishment over time, and people's memories get fuzzy too.
I highly doubt the story as told was entirely true. There was probably something similar that did happen at one point but I highly doubt the people who created it purposefully showed it to Walt Disney... I would think it would be more likely to be something a couple of employees made as a joke that was making its rounds before possibly being shown to disney as a joke rather than an actual well intended "Birthday gift". I can't imagine anyone seriously thinking that would be well recieved by Walt...
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 that would make a lot more sense. A few guys goof off by drawing some risque stuff and then the clean cut Boss walks in. Not as exciting a story as projecting an actual porno film at a birthday party, but almost certainly the real one.
The animator who made up the story also has made up other pretty ridiculous stories about Disney, and he's also the guy who started the protests against Disney for not crediting animators (which was totally justified) Also he's the only one who's spoken about this alleged short and no other animator has attested to its existence So I'm 99% sure he's just a very bitter ex animator trying to make Walt look bad, as long as he's the only person saying it exists, I'll continue to believe he just made it up to take the piss out of a old boss he hated
I don’t know if it’s a variant of this urban legend or a similar yet unrelated one, but I once heard a story claiming some studio had its animators make a pornographic short “as a reward for the animators’ hard work”. That doesn’t make sense because why would you “reward” workers by forcing them to do an additional project which they wouldn’t receive any compensation for? It would be one thing to say, “Since you’ve worked so hard, you have time off! Feel free to blow off some steam by drawing whatever you want, or else hit the golf course or whatever!” but expecting us to believe a professional business told workers, “Since you’ve worked so hard, we’re forcing you to make a porno!” is ridiculous.
As great a man as Disney was, he really instilled the 'animation is for kids' mindset that people have a hard time shaking. He neutered the genre since he couldn't leave is comfort zone and honestly did more harm than good.
I could not agree more. His films are too soft and everyone has to sing a damn song. I haven't watched a Disney film for 10 years because they did not give me anything to resonate with. And besides, I've found other things that spark my interest.
@@robertbarrows6687 gotta love how history gets rewritten by anyone who witnessed it and has an agenda. This was also part of the whole “Walt Disney is an Anti-Semite” rhetoric that sprang from the Union Busting. Back then, the Red Scare was very much real before it had a name and part of that came from Unions. As relayed to the House of Un-American Activity Committee in 1947, Disney told them that he was more against the Communists that riled up the Strikes at his Studio than the Workers themselves. Seeing as Hollywood has been and especially still increasingly Red/Socialist, as a staunch Anti-Socialist/Communist, it was a no brainer for him to not just point them out (Hint: this is also where the “Anti-Semetic” claims were taken as gospel) but also double down on what he believed were good values in his studio’s works. I’m no fan of Disney or even of his legacy, but I will go to bat for the guy when I see things taken out of context merely to paint things worse than they actually were. Plus, while I do agree with the sentiment that he made Animation seem more geared towards the youth (to a degree)…you would have to not know of the fact that toy companies collaborating with animation studios to push toy lines & merchandise on Saturday Morning were the main reason as to why. Back in Disney’s heyday before TV was the big thing, everyone watched cartoons, weekly news, and such before a movie/film serial as part of the movie theater experience. Animation was considered an art form and accessible to all ages in those days and not just pigeonholed into “kid’s stuff” like it is today. But just like with video games…once advertisers, studios, and toy companies saw the potential in Pester Power (ads & programming on TV influencing the youth to ask their parents for what they saw on a commercial/show)…the whole industry shifted and sort of became exactly that. Disney was always considered a family oriented company and all ages entertainment, but at the same time was releasing animated & live action movies and shorts that stood the test of time. Side Note: It’s strange how much the general public (but mostly Terminally Online people) has essentially turned hostile towards family-friendly anything and began to feel the need to champion stuff that they’re never going to watch nor support outside of tweets/comment sections. The relevance of that is present whenever talking about “The Past” and how everything was bad or something rote like that.
Agreed I seriously wish they would use deeper/darker stories in their movies and yeah I hate how he’s one of the people who have instilled that mindset because no animation is not just for kids it’s for everyone
What i heard about why disney shelved the kingdom hearts piolet is because they werent able to make sure the story matched with any future game's stories. They didnt want the brand to be confusing by having two different canons. The show canon and the videogame canon. Which considering how complex kingdom hearts came to be it might've been a good idea to not muddy the waters with a show that follows a completely different stort
Destino has proven to be amongst my favorite things ive ever seen come out of disney, and im SO glad you showed it to me! It is truly one of the most emotional things ive ever seen come out of disney and it feels wrong that its never been properly released to anything from disney.
I’ve been a Disney fanatic since forever. It started when I was a kid and it grew after my first trip to Disney World. Listening to these facts and learning about Disney’s lost media is fascinating to me
As someone who proudly has been looking into the Epic Mickey history and concepts, this is a really cool video to see, Strider and Jorge! Great to see you both! I think it's definitely worth you checking out the lost Epic Mickey 3 and Epic Donald, as well as the cancelled Epic Mickey movie, as I'm continuing to try and find information on these lost projects.
i always love hearing about Oswald, he's genuinely my favorite Disney character! I'm still mad that since they've reacquired him they've BARELY used him (outside of Epic Mickey and a few in-park appearances)!
Bruh its always so weird when something I watched as an older kid/younger teenager becomes lost media. I vividly remember reading the pop ups out loud to my brothers since they weren't very fast readers at the time. I was most exited for the Cheetah Girls 2 pop up version since it was taking place in Spain.
In my opinion, the biggest disney lost media is in their disney channel original movies from 1985-1995. As more than half of their originals are only available through VHS format. Luckily, I managed to preserve some these movies through my VHS uploads channel. That way, this form of disney lost media will never be forgotten......unless disney decides to take them down, erasing a piece of history that should've been preserved.
I actually do remember watching live action movies on the Wonderful World of Disney block on the ABC most Sunday nights. I can't even remember the names of those movies, so I agree that they would be considered lost media.
There Definately needs to be a Katzenburg Iceberg! There's alot to uncover about him; from his treatment of Disney Employee's/ ousting....to his forming of Dreamworks.
I find it extremely fascinating that Jeffrey Katzenburg kind of used his influence to have the team working on Shrek turn it into an Anti-Disney movie…down to how Lord Farquuad was lightly modeled around Michael Eisner (then-CEO). Also, how Treasure Planet was promised to the Directors, which was their Dream Project, by Katzenburg…but continuously denied it to them until they finished other projects that he felt were more “appealing” (The Little Mermaid and Hercules). Even after they got the greenlight AND a monstrous budget for it…Katzenburg was already at Dreamworks and unable to go up to bat for them to make sure it succeeded like it should’ve. It would be much more fondly remembered today had they not released it at the worst possible time (iirc around the release date of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone) and actually promoted it to the moon…but by then, Michael Eisner had determined that 2D Animation wasn’t viable in the box office anymore and just let it twist in the wind.
There was 1 you missed. In Pixar's Monsters, Inc. Harryhausen's was originally going to be blown up by the CDA after Boo causes madness. The explosion scene was deleted after 9/11 attacks as the movie was released in late 2001. The scene was replaced with a plasma dome. The footage is on TH-cam.
It’s great to see you making a lost media video, specially one that happens to be an iceberg. The fact that you collaborated with Blameitonjorge once again makes things even better. I’m looking forward to seeing more content like this from you 🙂
Hey Strider! I usually don’t comment on videos but I felt like doing so here I love your content it has been very Interesting and entertaining for a few years to me now! I have autism and your videos are super inspiring and insightful to me I definitely love listening to them in the background while I draw. You also created this fantastic community of really kind and accepting people and it’s very pleasant to hear your kind words at the end of each video. I just wanna thank you for all the years of lists covered with so much care and insightfulness. Keep doing what you’re doing
The strange thing about RUNAWAY BRAIN is that Disney still sells merch about this piece. There is a pin, showing the psycho-Mickey. They have reproduced the pin for years now, as its a big seller - even for those that don't know of the animation.
Mickey in Vietnam doesn’t look half bad art style wise for the time, even if it could be seen as controversial. Also, I think a mix of the Evil Elsa and the final Version of Frozen could be interesting, with ‘Let it Go’ being Elsa’s Redemption.
I own some of the Disney Treasures DVDs and I believe that Runaway Brain is one of them and it's a shame that Disney doesn't have the short on Disney+, I have also noticed that The Mad Doctor is not on Disney+ either
I remember watching your creepy Disney cartoons video when it was fairly new and being terrified of the imagery of “Runaway Brain”. My sister, who probably knows more about Mickey than anyone I know, didn’t even know what I was talking about when I explained this cartoon to her 😂 so that made me even more creeped out. Either way, it’s nice to see you and Jorge do an iceberg collab!
Runaway Brain is a personal fave of mine! It's literally Mickey as Taz right down to bring played by Jim Cummings! The short can be found on the Mickey Disney Treasures Collection volume 2 and uploaded on TH-cam. It holds a special place in my heart because it came out on my birthday August 11th as a short before A Kid in Kings Arthur's Court. While that movie wasn't great, the shirt is still awesome!! ❤
i have one. chicken little 2: mission to mars [lost sequel of chicken little] Chicken Little 2: Mission to Mars is an unproduced sequel to Chicken Little. Tod Carter was given the mandate to create a story reel for the project in the same time frame as Aristocats 2. The script for Chicken Little 2 was good and Carter was given a lot of freedom to invent. In the story, Chicken Little is in the midst of a love triangle with Abby "Ugly Duckling" Mallard and Raffaela, the French sheep. Abby goes to great lengths to give herself a makeover my guess on why the sequel never came out is a mix of poor reviews and Disney focusing on other projects. the original was very successful in the box office [around 300 million dollars]. there are storyboards around on the disney fandom [ about this cancelled sequel ] .
32:54 The worst part of all this is Disney’s crappy treatment of the LGTB community. Alex Hirsch originally wrote Mabel Pines as a lesbian, but Disney told him “No”. Dana Terrace fought hard with Disney because she wanted Luz Noceda and Amy Blight to develop a romantic relationship between them. Disney decided to concede… *ONLY TO STAB DANA IN THE BACK AND DENY THE OWL HOUSE A PROPER THIRD SEASON.* And then there’s the myriad of recent Disney movies that had at least one character briefly mentioning they were gay and Disney actively sabotaging each and everyone of them, creating the illusion of LGTB inclusion being a financial death sentence *and spreading the fear that the Rainbow Mafia was corrupting our youth.*
That was pretty cool. :) Though it's understandable for Disney to want to keep its stuff appropriate for all ages, I do agree that the desire to keep everything "family-friendly" goes too far sometimes. There are ways to touch on mature subjects without being too explicit or relying on too much crude humor, and Disney has shown that they are willing to be dark sometimes.
There are a couple more obscure Disney topics that I wish were explored much more. One that i'm very interested in seeing is a deleted scene from Turning Red which would have involved Mei and her friends protesting about the use of plastics in their school. The scene, as of now, is not available on DVD or Disney Plus. There are only a few snippets of footage that currently exist of the scene: One shot from the trailer and a couple short clips featured in the behind-the-scenes documentary, Embrace The Panda. Some of the film's tie-in books even feature the scene. Another one, which falls within the realm of the Disney Channel "Pop up" thing, is the Toon Disney Search For The Most Animated Kid contest. While several promos for it survived, what's lost about it is the prizes for the winners, which was taking them to Hollywood to be featured in a Disney cartoon. We don't seem to know who the winners were and which cartoons they were featured in.
Im not sure if this aired again or not. But it's still a weird episode for Disney. Around the year 2020 (I think), there was a Mickey TV series called "Micky Mouse (shorts)." In one of these episodes (The third Wheel), Mickey and Minnie try to have a romantic evening. However, Goofy keeps ruining it. At one point, he even went as far as eating almost all the food in the restaurant. Micky and Minnie snap, claiming they wanted an evening alone. Goofy understands and unhinged his jaw to the floor and ate them. In his stomach, they have a romantic dinner where Minnie comments on being alone, with Mickey responding with "you know what else two people do when they're alone?" The candle goes out, and Goofy stomach moves around as he chuckles "Gaha that tickles!" And the episode ended.
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I feel like you both missed the craziest part of the Oswald story. The way Disney re-acquired those old shorts was by giving the contract of Sportscaster Al Michaels to Universal for their coverage of Sunday night football here in the US.
Following up on my other Iceberg comment, I'm glad that Strider is willing to generally take this less seriously than the insanely creepy tone that most people go with It's refreshing and reminds me that Iceberg stuff isn't *inherently* spooky
I wonder why Disney doesn’t take advantage of some of these deleted scenes/lost media (that they most likely have access to) and at least upload them to Disney+ as “Disney+ originals,” it might help people actually subscribe to their streaming service….and at least save that media from being completely lost and a cheap way for Disney to bulk up there catalogue. They could have whole deleted scenes/commentaries for movies/shows or a series of “Almost Made,” Disney Movies where they parse together movies that were almost made (like Kingdom of the Sun). I highly doubt they’d ever do that….
I love to see you guys collaborate on a video as your channals are some of my favorites. Plus when I comes to lost media and some creepy stuff, I'm always game for that :3
Not gonna lie, the Zootopia shock collar scenes reminds me of the Pink Floyd songs “Dogs” and “Sheep.” They just give that atmosphere of social unrest and imbalance!
YOU GO MAN! I'm usually never early to videos ,and i don't usually watch videos longer then 35 minutes, but I'm gonna sit through this entire thing! Your videos are perfect to listen to while I'm making food. Keep it up! Stride (ba dum tsshh) for 1 million, you deserve it. edit :it seems like you are friends with like, EVERY TH-camR I LIKE WATCHING!
personal recommendations for additions to this list -dumbo 2 the scrapped direct to dvd sequel to dumbo that has the distinction of actually being advertised on one of the other dvds. -gigantic lost 2010’s movie that got an easter egg in zootopia -song of the south if you count runaway brain on this list i don’t see how this shouldn’t either -the peter pan disney infinity figure the only produced figure for disney infinity 4.0
Bambi meets Godzilla, the original meme. The music made me so nostalgic for Metroid Prime. I'm waiting for the remaster to come out physically, so I haven't played yet, but it'll be so sweet to play that classic again .
Bambi meets Godzilla was very well known amongst my parents' college groups in the 70's. My mom was so darned excited when we found the video on TH-cam lol She had it practically memorized and was reciting the credits as we watch it XD
Considering how I feel about my own characters, I get Walt's love for Mickey. That's his son and I do understand that he found the nsfw animation offensive
You missed the Robin Hood alternate ending (Would have happened before the wedding). There are storyboards where the Robin gets out of the moat injured and ends up needing to be nursed back to health but Prince John comes to stab Robing to kill him. Also there's a missing scene in Bedknobs and Broomsticks where Eglantine Price sings a song called "Step in the Right Direction" which is the main theme to the movie. The footage has been lost to time but there are stills and a recording of the song that are still out there but the whole thing put together is still missing.
It always a good day seeing my favorite 2 TH-camrs together! Your picks for this iceberg were all very interesting. While I did know some of these like the original villainous versions of Woody and Elsa, and the original pitch for The Empreor’s New Groove (glad to see you also enjoy that movie, btw), there were still a couple I hadn’t been aware of. In particular, The Pointer and the Lizzie Mcquire reboot are stuff I’d like to see in the public someday. I knew if the Kingdom Hearts animatic and agree that it would fun seeing another attempt at an animated series. And Uncle Walt is certainly interesting, it sounds like a bizarre creepypasta from the early days of lost episodes. Speaking of Oswald, in some original concepts for Epic Mickey, there were some suggestions that he was a bit more hostile to Mickey than he was the finished game, at one point merging himself with other Disney characters as some creepy creature to attack him. The developers probably realized that this wasn’t exactly the best way to reintroduce a forgotten character that people would be learning of for the first time, and made him more sympathetic. I actually made a comment on your Nintendo’s failures video with some questions I want to hear your input on, and eagerly await your response. In the meantime I’m curious to hear your thoughts on the Sonic Movies and the upcoming Mario movie. I wish you two a good day, and hope to hear from you soon . See you next time!
Love the iceberg video! Though I would have loved if there was a mention on the cancelled Epic Mickey projects, like Epic Donald, Epic Mickey 3 and Epic Racing, or something on the lines of that.
I never thought you'd do this Strider but I'm glad you have. Hey speaking of Disney Screw up and lost media. Why don't you look into the story of Bobby Driscoll. I think that's a dark secret if Disney that's been hidden for too long. See Bobby was a star for Disney back in the early days. He was in Song of the South and is most known for Voicing Peter Pan in Diseny's Peter Pan. He was fired not long after Peter Pan because he was too old to play any part. Since he was a teenager. The story of Bobby Driscoll is a very tragic one and Disney still does this legally today. Like how they did the same to Britney Spears years after Bobby. Also Pooh Corner was creepy I saw the episode that explained what you do when a adult touches you inappropriately... Yea..
Speaking of Disney ruining child actors, I noticed that they didn't say much, if anything, after Tommy Kirk passed away. Guess they didn't want people to remember who got him essentially blacklisted to begin with because he was gay (spoiler, it was Uncle Walt. He was super creepy about Annette Funicello working on non-Disney films too)
I wanna make a honorable mention: in one of Blameitonjorge's lost media Disney videos, he mentions that some of the disney Channel bumpers were lost due to less films or less storage. Another mention is that there was a time where both live action shows and cartoons did a "how many can you spot" phase and for some unknown reason it was deemed lost after the shows were completed.
Just like to say that in "Runaway Brain" Mickeys not in Pete's body, he's in a different character called Julius who debuted in the short. He's actually a Kingdom Hearts bossfight believe it or not.
Happy late birthday Josh! Also hope you and Nin had an amazing time yesterday for Valentine’s Day! I deactivated my public twitter account but I just wanna say I hope you and Nin are doing well 💛
I would’ve included the lost audio for Josh Keaton’s Spider-Man in the ‘Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes” as a part of this list. You see, Josh Keaton, voice of Spidey in the Spectacular Spider-Man reprised his role as Spidey for the series but at the last minute, Disney decided to redub all of his audio with Drake Bell because Ultimate Spider-Man was out at the time. MAJOR downgrade.
I'm pretty sure the "Pop Up" media trend started with "Pop-Up Video", a program on VH1 in the late 90s in which popular music videos of the era would have little inside facts and trivia pop up on the screen. Many episodes and segments from Pop-Up Video are also lost media.
I remember the pop up versions of the Disney Channel movies! The facts were cool but I always found the pop ups distracting. I’m sure at my parents’ house they have one or two recorded on VHS tape, because we used to do that a lot. I never knew they were considered lost media!
As a “loyalist”, I still side with the good influence of Disney. It’s true we cannot sugarcoat, erase, or even just deny the existence of the “dark side”. But if we keep looking on the dark side (whether or not that’s just part of reality nowadays), it’s just gonna make things worse for everyone, including you! Every path is full of obstacles and challenges that seem horrifying to us these days, but remember what Rafiki once said: “The past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or learn from it!”
Whoopee.. 100 years of false hope and dreams. And look at the garbage they have now. I'm only here for Strider and Blameitonjorge because they're both freakin' sweet.
I would honestly love to see disney make something out of these scraped movie plot ideas. Maybe have a graphic novel series that explores these what if scenarios like the dystopian shock collar zootpia, villain elsa or kingdom of the sun etc. Like the disney version of Marvels What If…? Comics. I’d totally read that!
I now want a AU Graphic Novel to do with the original ending of The Lion King and focusing on a more bitter, damaged, ruined, emotionally and mentally destroyed Simba.
It’s not like they haven’t done it before. They have a series of books called “Disney Twisted Tales” which take popular films, like The Little Mermaid and Snow White, and make their “bad endings”
I always forget what the "Black Friday Reel" actually is and imagine a scene where toys in a store are watching the carnage of 4AM shoppers fighting over them. It could make for an interesting villain origin, potentially, seeing how humans treat each other and carrying that knowledge to their new home, where they remain numb and disinterested in their child, even when other toys are happy with their life.
This was a great video! I loved it a lot Strider... but, I have to be honest, you missed A LOT of Disney content, like two feature film versions of Hiawatha, cancelled Disney sequels, Gremlins, the older feature film drafts of Mickey and the Beanstalk and Bongo, among many more; ironically, this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to THE AMOUNT of lost Disney content, but that's to be expected with a company as massive and as old as Disney. Not mad at you or anything; it's a great video, you did pretty good... but you probably have enough content for like ten ice bergs... at least! Also, I kind-of wish you went into more detail about some of these subjects, like Alice in Wonderland, but... to be frank, a lot of this stuff can be so detailed and complicated, they might as well be videos of their own
Pretty sure the Alice Comedies were so abstract and plotless because the book was abstract with a non-cohesive plot. That’s kind of the point of Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, so it only makes sense that Walt’s first project influenced by those stories would share those elements.
About the "Winnie the Pooh" show with the costumes: I grew up watching it in the 90s in Germany. It was very cute and I didn't think it was scary at all. Is it really lost? Well, it was on German TV in the 90s.
At 3:30 Toy Story - Black Friday Reel/Evil Woody, at 4:48 The Original Frozen with Villain Elsa/Evil Elsa at 6:22 The Shock Collar/The Taming Shock Collar From Zootopia and at 18:08 The Lion King Deleted Ending/Alternative Ending. You covered those 4 deleted scenes in the Top 6 Darkest Disney Deleted Scenes video from 6 years ago when the video was published on TH-cam in 2018 the 21st of September on a Friday and at 11:02 you also covered the Mickey Mouse Runway Brain episode in the Top 6 Creepiest Mickey Mouse Cartoons video from 7 years ago when the video was published on TH-cam in 2017 the 31st of August on a Thursday.
Hey Strider, I wonder if you remember this one. There was a mid-2000s Disney animated show called "Teamo Supremo" about a three-man band of superhero kids. Captain Crandall, Skater Lad and a cowboy-themed girl I cant remember the name of. Surprisingly, the show is mostly missing from the Disney archive and very few episodes exist now. Weirdly, the only episode I remember, where Skater Lad gained a much cooler rival in Scooter Lad, is one of the missing ones! I might have once even owned a recording of it until a friend I lent it to accidentally destroyed the tape. I wonder if any progress has been made on locating Teamo Supremo? Anyway, its an interesting thing to look into!
Yeah the KH take is... okay, so imagine you're working on a story. Any story, but this one was a miracle story only made possible by chance meetings. And then people from another country come and make a version in another media and there's no sign you're going to be part of the creative process, and that it might not be close to the story you have in your head. This is why it was veto'd by Nomura - especially since, at this point, KH 2 and the such had been approved. (Also KH:CoM is easy to understand. That line was about how as Sora climbed higher up the tower, he'd seemingly lose memories. But gain new ones of somebody else.)
There's one really deep piece of lost media i'm surprised wasn't mentioned- the 1994 episode of the Disney live-action/puppet series Adventures in Wonderland "White Rabbits Can't Jump", that episode was never aired because it starred O.J. Simpson as the white rabbit and it's scheduled airing just happened to be a few weeks after he was accused of murder so the episode was ultimately removed from the schedule and never aired, a story-book version showing pictures from the episode was released but the episode has still not been found.
That Zootopia shock collar thing is so dystopian for Disney that I'm legitimately surprised that much animation was even made for it
Honestly I do think it would have been a bit too scary for children if they included those scenes in the final cut. Electricity is one of those things that children are taught from a young age is super dangerous, so watching cute animal characters get shocked by a collar would probably have scared kids a lot. Especially since kids often can't seperate fiction from reality very well. I think the electric collar plot points would have been great for audiences 8 and older but too scary for the 3-7 demographic and I can understand why Disney would shelve the idea as they do try to make their movies something that parents can just show to kids without having to worry about their kids being too scared afterwards.
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 True, doesn't really help that even as an adult the idea of what is essentially a society giving people shock collars to keep them in line is straight-up chilling, at least by Disney standards
Would have been way more interesting though
I remember a scene of poop coming out of goofy over mickey while Donald was holding him down cackling like a maniac! Got me scurried! 😭
There was an awesome webcomic called "Zistopia" that came out a while back that took the Zootopia shock collar storyline as its basis, though unfortunately the creator had to cancel the comic for personal reasons a couple of years ago.
I never thought PhantomStrider would do an Iceberg video, but I'm definitely NOT disappointed :D
He did do one called the phantom strider iceberg know it’s only available to members
It's always interesting to see people try something new with their TH-cam content.
@@Eoin_stuff I can confirm.
I wish he will do more!
hopefully featuring a TH-camr that’s a great narrator next. Vids are super cool & probably well done but bros voice is 1 long lisp & cant sit thru it for hours, respectfully.
I’d like to add a mini honorable mention: Language Arts Through Imagination. Basically these were a set of educational tapes provided to schools from 1988 to 1989. These were roughly 14 minutes which featured Figment, the purple dragon from the Journey into Imagination (Now known as Journey into Imagination with Figment) ride at EPCOT in Walt Disney World, Orlando Florida, teaching kids that happened to magically teleport inside his house in Figonia about Language Arts and many basic reading and writing techniques you would probably learn in English class. Because these tapes were only meant to be distributed to schools, they could not be found anywhere else, thus enlisting them as lost media. However, all of the 11 tapes have been reuploaded onto the internet, and as of writing are still watchable, meaning they are no longer classified as lost media, and can be fully enjoyed by everyone with an internet connection.
I remember those. My library had those as well as the Spanish versions.
I think my stepmother has a few of those in her attic, though they weren't kept well, so they wouldn't be of the best quality
Its actually insane how much disney has grown over literally 100 years. I honestly enjoy seeing the more darker and lost side of disney. Love the content strider!
I love his content too! 😃
Me too! I also like the darker Disney as well!
@@ravenscarlettanis13 it’s bone chilling 🥶
@@JustaHedgehoginSonicBoom IKR?! I wish Disney would bring it back, but alas, we can only dream…
(Sorry about that dramatic bit, I’m a dramatic writer)
@@ravenscarlettanis13 oh, that’s nothing
I’m dramatic and moody, that’s just part of my charm😏
31:33 I wouldn't be surprised if "the lost Mickey and Minnie porno" was just a Tijuana bible or crude sketches and the story got embellished over the years. It's hard to imagine the artists using the studio equipment to produce a short film like that behind Walt's back, but it is known that many a professional animator or comic artist sometimes worked blue anonymously. It's the type of story that encourages embellishment over time, and people's memories get fuzzy too.
I see and don't want to imagine what it would look like ☠️
I highly doubt the story as told was entirely true. There was probably something similar that did happen at one point but I highly doubt the people who created it purposefully showed it to Walt Disney... I would think it would be more likely to be something a couple of employees made as a joke that was making its rounds before possibly being shown to disney as a joke rather than an actual well intended "Birthday gift". I can't imagine anyone seriously thinking that would be well recieved by Walt...
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 that would make a lot more sense. A few guys goof off by drawing some risque stuff and then the clean cut Boss walks in. Not as exciting a story as projecting an actual porno film at a birthday party, but almost certainly the real one.
The animator who made up the story also has made up other pretty ridiculous stories about Disney, and he's also the guy who started the protests against Disney for not crediting animators (which was totally justified)
Also he's the only one who's spoken about this alleged short and no other animator has attested to its existence
So I'm 99% sure he's just a very bitter ex animator trying to make Walt look bad, as long as he's the only person saying it exists, I'll continue to believe he just made it up to take the piss out of a old boss he hated
I don’t know if it’s a variant of this urban legend or a similar yet unrelated one, but I once heard a story claiming some studio had its animators make a pornographic short “as a reward for the animators’ hard work”. That doesn’t make sense because why would you “reward” workers by forcing them to do an additional project which they wouldn’t receive any compensation for? It would be one thing to say, “Since you’ve worked so hard, you have time off! Feel free to blow off some steam by drawing whatever you want, or else hit the golf course or whatever!” but expecting us to believe a professional business told workers, “Since you’ve worked so hard, we’re forcing you to make a porno!” is ridiculous.
Phantom and Jorge doing a lost media video together is the team up we needed
Not the team we needed, but the team we deserved
Better than MCU's trash.
The guy who made the "I Love NYC" shirt and Adam Savage's dad made the short of Mickey in Vietnam. How beautiful and random that is.
The crossover we've all been waiting for to come back, and we're all glad to see blameitonjorge doing a return to the channel
As great a man as Disney was, he really instilled the 'animation is for kids' mindset that people have a hard time shaking. He neutered the genre since he couldn't leave is comfort zone and honestly did more harm than good.
I could not agree more. His films are too soft and everyone has to sing a damn song. I haven't watched a Disney film for 10 years because they did not give me anything to resonate with. And besides, I've found other things that spark my interest.
@@josephrowe849 And his opposition to unions and fair pay was just gross even for the time period.
@@robertbarrows6687 gotta love how history gets rewritten by anyone who witnessed it and has an agenda. This was also part of the whole “Walt Disney is an Anti-Semite” rhetoric that sprang from the Union Busting.
Back then, the Red Scare was very much real before it had a name and part of that came from Unions. As relayed to the House of Un-American Activity Committee in 1947, Disney told them that he was more against the Communists that riled up the Strikes at his Studio than the Workers themselves. Seeing as Hollywood has been and especially still increasingly Red/Socialist, as a staunch Anti-Socialist/Communist, it was a no brainer for him to not just point them out (Hint: this is also where the “Anti-Semetic” claims were taken as gospel) but also double down on what he believed were good values in his studio’s works.
I’m no fan of Disney or even of his legacy, but I will go to bat for the guy when I see things taken out of context merely to paint things worse than they actually were. Plus, while I do agree with the sentiment that he made Animation seem more geared towards the youth (to a degree)…you would have to not know of the fact that toy companies collaborating with animation studios to push toy lines & merchandise on Saturday Morning were the main reason as to why.
Back in Disney’s heyday before TV was the big thing, everyone watched cartoons, weekly news, and such before a movie/film serial as part of the movie theater experience. Animation was considered an art form and accessible to all ages in those days and not just pigeonholed into “kid’s stuff” like it is today. But just like with video games…once advertisers, studios, and toy companies saw the potential in Pester Power (ads & programming on TV influencing the youth to ask their parents for what they saw on a commercial/show)…the whole industry shifted and sort of became exactly that.
Disney was always considered a family oriented company and all ages entertainment, but at the same time was releasing animated & live action movies and shorts that stood the test of time.
Side Note: It’s strange how much the general public (but mostly Terminally Online people) has essentially turned hostile towards family-friendly anything and began to feel the need to champion stuff that they’re never going to watch nor support outside of tweets/comment sections. The relevance of that is present whenever talking about “The Past” and how everything was bad or something rote like that.
Never thought about that because I remember his saying about how adults can also enjoy cartoons guess I miss something
Agreed I seriously wish they would use deeper/darker stories in their movies and yeah I hate how he’s one of the people who have instilled that mindset because no animation is not just for kids it’s for everyone
What i heard about why disney shelved the kingdom hearts piolet is because they werent able to make sure the story matched with any future game's stories. They didnt want the brand to be confusing by having two different canons. The show canon and the videogame canon. Which considering how complex kingdom hearts came to be it might've been a good idea to not muddy the waters with a show that follows a completely different stort
*pilot
Destino has proven to be amongst my favorite things ive ever seen come out of disney, and im SO glad you showed it to me! It is truly one of the most emotional things ive ever seen come out of disney and it feels wrong that its never been properly released to anything from disney.
Definitely one of my favourites from Disney too. Glad I could introduce you to it too 😀
The style is more Dali than Disney though. If you like it then you should maybe check out his art.
I’ve been a Disney fanatic since forever. It started when I was a kid and it grew after my first trip to Disney World. Listening to these facts and learning about Disney’s lost media is fascinating to me
As someone who proudly has been looking into the Epic Mickey history and concepts, this is a really cool video to see, Strider and Jorge! Great to see you both!
I think it's definitely worth you checking out the lost Epic Mickey 3 and Epic Donald, as well as the cancelled Epic Mickey movie, as I'm continuing to try and find information on these lost projects.
i always love hearing about Oswald, he's genuinely my favorite Disney character! I'm still mad that since they've reacquired him they've BARELY used him (outside of Epic Mickey and a few in-park appearances)!
Bruh its always so weird when something I watched as an older kid/younger teenager becomes lost media. I vividly remember reading the pop ups out loud to my brothers since they weren't very fast readers at the time. I was most exited for the Cheetah Girls 2 pop up version since it was taking place in Spain.
Yeah. I remember watching the Red Mist scene from SpongeBob on TV, before they replaced it.
In my opinion, the biggest disney lost media is in their disney channel original movies from 1985-1995. As more than half of their originals are only available through VHS format.
Luckily, I managed to preserve some these movies through my VHS uploads channel. That way, this form of disney lost media will never be forgotten......unless disney decides to take them down, erasing a piece of history that should've been preserved.
I actually do remember watching live action movies on the Wonderful World of Disney block on the ABC most Sunday nights. I can't even remember the names of those movies, so I agree that they would be considered lost media.
Oh that's great. I would love to watch these 😭
There Definately needs to be a Katzenburg Iceberg! There's alot to uncover about him; from his treatment of Disney Employee's/ ousting....to his forming of Dreamworks.
I find it extremely fascinating that Jeffrey Katzenburg kind of used his influence to have the team working on Shrek turn it into an Anti-Disney movie…down to how Lord Farquuad was lightly modeled around Michael Eisner (then-CEO).
Also, how Treasure Planet was promised to the Directors, which was their Dream Project, by Katzenburg…but continuously denied it to them until they finished other projects that he felt were more “appealing” (The Little Mermaid and Hercules).
Even after they got the greenlight AND a monstrous budget for it…Katzenburg was already at Dreamworks and unable to go up to bat for them to make sure it succeeded like it should’ve.
It would be much more fondly remembered today had they not released it at the worst possible time (iirc around the release date of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone) and actually promoted it to the moon…but by then, Michael Eisner had determined that 2D Animation wasn’t viable in the box office anymore and just let it twist in the wind.
Don’t forget Katzenberg starting Quibi, which was such a massive failure that it didn’t even last a year.
There was 1 you missed. In Pixar's Monsters, Inc. Harryhausen's was originally going to be blown up by the CDA after Boo causes madness. The explosion scene was deleted after 9/11 attacks as the movie was released in late 2001. The scene was replaced with a plasma dome. The footage is on TH-cam.
I always find the Lost Media side of the internet interesting to follow, so stuff like this is up my alley
It’s great to see you making a lost media video, specially one that happens to be an iceberg. The fact that you collaborated with Blameitonjorge once again makes things even better. I’m looking forward to seeing more content like this from you 🙂
The Collaboration of the freaking century! I’ve never been more excited for a TH-cam video in my life
Hey Strider! I usually don’t comment on videos but I felt like doing so here I love your content it has been very Interesting and entertaining for a few years to me now! I have autism and your videos are super inspiring and insightful to me I definitely love listening to them in the background while I draw. You also created this fantastic community of really kind and accepting people and it’s very pleasant to hear your kind words at the end of each video. I just wanna thank you for all the years of lists covered with so much care and insightfulness. Keep doing what you’re doing
Never expected an iceberg from Strider but it’s great to see him both trying something new and returning to an old topic.
The strange thing about RUNAWAY BRAIN is that Disney still sells merch about this piece.
There is a pin, showing the psycho-Mickey. They have reproduced the pin for years now, as its a big seller - even for those that don't know of the animation.
Mickey in Vietnam doesn’t look half bad art style wise for the time, even if it could be seen as controversial.
Also, I think a mix of the Evil Elsa and the final Version of Frozen could be interesting, with ‘Let it Go’ being Elsa’s Redemption.
I own some of the Disney Treasures DVDs and I believe that Runaway Brain is one of them and it's a shame that Disney doesn't have the short on Disney+, I have also noticed that The Mad Doctor is not on Disney+ either
You are right, Runaway Brain is on the second volume of Mickey in color as an extra
Never expected an iceberg video from you Strider! You never fail to surprise!
I remember watching your creepy Disney cartoons video when it was fairly new and being terrified of the imagery of “Runaway Brain”. My sister, who probably knows more about Mickey than anyone I know, didn’t even know what I was talking about when I explained this cartoon to her 😂 so that made me even more creeped out.
Either way, it’s nice to see you and Jorge do an iceberg collab!
BlameitonStrider is back! Amazing vid, Josh! It's so cool you got Jorge to help again!
Love the video Strider!!!! So nice to see a lost media/Disney video
Oh my gosh. Wow. I never thought Josh was going to do an iceberg video let alone upload today. Amazing job Josh and George
Yeah so next maybe josh will made the top 6 best nick jr shows
Runaway Brain is a personal fave of mine! It's literally Mickey as Taz right down to bring played by Jim Cummings! The short can be found on the Mickey Disney Treasures Collection volume 2 and uploaded on TH-cam. It holds a special place in my heart because it came out on my birthday August 11th as a short before A Kid in Kings Arthur's Court. While that movie wasn't great, the shirt is still awesome!! ❤
i have one. chicken little 2: mission to mars [lost sequel of chicken little]
Chicken Little 2: Mission to Mars is an unproduced sequel to Chicken Little. Tod Carter was given the mandate to create a story reel for the project in the same time frame as Aristocats 2. The script for Chicken Little 2 was good and Carter was given a lot of freedom to invent. In the story, Chicken Little is in the midst of a love triangle with Abby "Ugly Duckling" Mallard and Raffaela, the French sheep. Abby goes to great lengths to give herself a makeover
my guess on why the sequel never came out is a mix of poor reviews and Disney focusing on other projects. the original was very successful in the box office [around 300 million dollars].
there are storyboards around on the disney fandom [ about this cancelled sequel ] .
32:54 The worst part of all this is Disney’s crappy treatment of the LGTB community. Alex Hirsch originally wrote Mabel Pines as a lesbian, but Disney told him “No”. Dana Terrace fought hard with Disney because she wanted Luz Noceda and Amy Blight to develop a romantic relationship between them. Disney decided to concede… *ONLY TO STAB DANA IN THE BACK AND DENY THE OWL HOUSE A PROPER THIRD SEASON.*
And then there’s the myriad of recent Disney movies that had at least one character briefly mentioning they were gay and Disney actively sabotaging each and everyone of them, creating the illusion of LGTB inclusion being a financial death sentence *and spreading the fear that the Rainbow Mafia was corrupting our youth.*
Pretty cool how Kingdom Hearts referenced Runaway Brain by putting that version of Pete as a secret boss in Dream Drop Distance
another shift in content, eh? I love that you keep things fresh on here, you and Jorge did a great job on this iceberg!
That was pretty cool. :) Though it's understandable for Disney to want to keep its stuff appropriate for all ages, I do agree that the desire to keep everything "family-friendly" goes too far sometimes. There are ways to touch on mature subjects without being too explicit or relying on too much crude humor, and Disney has shown that they are willing to be dark sometimes.
I think Disney went with the family friendly thing to get more money
There are a couple more obscure Disney topics that I wish were explored much more.
One that i'm very interested in seeing is a deleted scene from Turning Red which would have involved Mei and her friends protesting about the use of plastics in their school. The scene, as of now, is not available on DVD or Disney Plus. There are only a few snippets of footage that currently exist of the scene: One shot from the trailer and a couple short clips featured in the behind-the-scenes documentary, Embrace The Panda. Some of the film's tie-in books even feature the scene.
Another one, which falls within the realm of the Disney Channel "Pop up" thing, is the Toon Disney Search For The Most Animated Kid contest. While several promos for it survived, what's lost about it is the prizes for the winners, which was taking them to Hollywood to be featured in a Disney cartoon. We don't seem to know who the winners were and which cartoons they were featured in.
I like how, unlike most other iceberg videos, Strider actually has some emotion beyond "Spooky narrator"
Glad to see you tackling this kind of media, especially from good ol' Disney.
Im not sure if this aired again or not. But it's still a weird episode for Disney.
Around the year 2020 (I think), there was a Mickey TV series called "Micky Mouse (shorts)." In one of these episodes (The third Wheel), Mickey and Minnie try to have a romantic evening. However, Goofy keeps ruining it. At one point, he even went as far as eating almost all the food in the restaurant. Micky and Minnie snap, claiming they wanted an evening alone. Goofy understands and unhinged his jaw to the floor and ate them. In his stomach, they have a romantic dinner where Minnie comments on being alone, with Mickey responding with "you know what else two people do when they're alone?" The candle goes out, and Goofy stomach moves around as he chuckles "Gaha that tickles!" And the episode ended.
I've seen some artists do a more respective redesign of Sunflower, with some really beautiful art. it's what she deserves :)
Savannah Alexandra, a character designer based in Atlanta, based her art style on the Centaurettes and has made beautiful centaurs in a variety of body types and skin tones. Check it out
Ooooooh, can you point me to some?
I feel like you both missed the craziest part of the Oswald story. The way Disney re-acquired those old shorts was by giving the contract of Sportscaster Al Michaels to Universal for their coverage of Sunday night football here in the US.
This iceberg seems like a fitting way to celebrate Disney’s 100th anniversary.
Following up on my other Iceberg comment, I'm glad that Strider is willing to generally take this less seriously than the insanely creepy tone that most people go with
It's refreshing and reminds me that Iceberg stuff isn't *inherently* spooky
I wonder why Disney doesn’t take advantage of some of these deleted scenes/lost media (that they most likely have access to) and at least upload them to Disney+ as “Disney+ originals,” it might help people actually subscribe to their streaming service….and at least save that media from being completely lost and a cheap way for Disney to bulk up there catalogue.
They could have whole deleted scenes/commentaries for movies/shows or a series of “Almost Made,” Disney Movies where they parse together movies that were almost made (like Kingdom of the Sun). I highly doubt they’d ever do that….
24:09 To get Disenchanted some credit, at least we got an amazing villain song. Seriously, Badder is such an ear worm, I love it so much.
I love to see you guys collaborate on a video as your channals are some of my favorites. Plus when I comes to lost media and some creepy stuff, I'm always game for that :3
Not gonna lie, the Zootopia shock collar scenes reminds me of the Pink Floyd songs “Dogs” and “Sheep.” They just give that atmosphere of social unrest and imbalance!
YOU GO MAN! I'm usually never early to videos ,and i don't usually watch videos longer then 35 minutes, but I'm gonna sit through this entire thing! Your videos are perfect to listen to while I'm making food. Keep it up! Stride (ba dum tsshh) for 1 million, you deserve it.
edit :it seems like you are friends with like, EVERY TH-camR I LIKE WATCHING!
Alice Shorts can be found in the Disney Treasures Collection: Disney Rarities 1920s-1960s. Lots if great gems too!
Strider MUST return to his Top 10 movies, tv-shows & characters lists! I MISS it!
Bro this is so cool!! You guys are some of my favorite TH-camrs too!!
Edit: Dude Oswald's my favorite Disney character
personal recommendations for additions to this list
-dumbo 2
the scrapped direct to dvd sequel to dumbo that has the distinction of actually being advertised on one of the other dvds.
-gigantic
lost 2010’s movie that got an easter egg in zootopia
-song of the south
if you count runaway brain on this list i don’t see how this shouldn’t either
-the peter pan disney infinity figure
the only produced figure for disney infinity 4.0
it's always a good day when these two do a collab. i've been watching both of them since 2015/16. they are apart of my childhood
the music choices for this video are scary af, good picks made me pay more attention to the ost at times o-o
Let's gooooo! I've been waiting so long for a collab with the both of you! So awesome!
BlameitonJorge & PhantomStrider team up? Yes! 😁
20:28 - Fun fact, there was a time Godzilla was planned to meet Batman
Bambi meets Godzilla, the original meme.
The music made me so nostalgic for Metroid Prime. I'm waiting for the remaster to come out physically, so I haven't played yet, but it'll be so sweet to play that classic again .
Never thought I'd see a Phantomstrider iceberg video so this is awesome!!
Bambi meets Godzilla was very well known amongst my parents' college groups in the 70's. My mom was so darned excited when we found the video on TH-cam lol
She had it practically memorized and was reciting the credits as we watch it XD
Glad to see one of my favourite TH-camrs is bringing something new to the table, great video my friend! 🙂👍
Considering how I feel about my own characters, I get Walt's love for Mickey. That's his son and I do understand that he found the nsfw animation offensive
Imagine if J.R.R. Tolkien had let Walt Disney adapt The Hobbit and our perception of Tolkien writings would have been influenced by the Disney movie.
I think there's a fanmade adaptation of Lord of the Rings with the style of Disney
You missed the Robin Hood alternate ending (Would have happened before the wedding). There are storyboards where the Robin gets out of the moat injured and ends up needing to be nursed back to health but Prince John comes to stab Robing to kill him.
Also there's a missing scene in Bedknobs and Broomsticks where Eglantine Price sings a song called "Step in the Right Direction" which is the main theme to the movie. The footage has been lost to time but there are stills and a recording of the song that are still out there but the whole thing put together is still missing.
It always a good day seeing my favorite 2 TH-camrs together!
Your picks for this iceberg were all very interesting. While I did know some of these like the original villainous versions of Woody and Elsa, and the original pitch for The Empreor’s New Groove (glad to see you also enjoy that movie, btw), there were still a couple I hadn’t been aware of. In particular, The Pointer and the Lizzie Mcquire reboot are stuff I’d like to see in the public someday. I knew if the Kingdom Hearts animatic and agree that it would fun seeing another attempt at an animated series. And Uncle Walt is certainly interesting, it sounds like a bizarre creepypasta from the early days of lost episodes.
Speaking of Oswald, in some original concepts for Epic Mickey, there were some suggestions that he was a bit more hostile to Mickey than he was the finished game, at one point merging himself with other Disney characters as some creepy creature to attack him. The developers probably realized that this wasn’t exactly the best way to reintroduce a forgotten character that people would be learning of for the first time, and made him more sympathetic.
I actually made a comment on your Nintendo’s failures video with some questions I want to hear your input on, and eagerly await your response. In the meantime I’m curious to hear your thoughts on the Sonic Movies and the upcoming Mario movie.
I wish you two a good day, and hope to hear from you soon . See you next time!
You know your day has been made whenever Strider posts a top 6 or 10 video.
I remember seeing something like Welcome to Pooh's Corner so seeing it on the iceberg was like opening a lost memory
I watched Welcome to Poohs corner as a kid
I also watched Dumbo's Circus as a kid
On Dumbo's Circus he had the feather he would hold by his tail to fly
Love the iceberg video! Though I would have loved if there was a mention on the cancelled Epic Mickey projects, like Epic Donald, Epic Mickey 3 and Epic Racing, or something on the lines of that.
I never thought you'd do this Strider but I'm glad you have.
Hey speaking of Disney Screw up and lost media.
Why don't you look into the story of Bobby Driscoll. I think that's a dark secret if Disney that's been hidden for too long.
See Bobby was a star for Disney back in the early days. He was in Song of the South and is most known for Voicing Peter Pan in Diseny's Peter Pan.
He was fired not long after Peter Pan because he was too old to play any part. Since he was a teenager. The story of Bobby Driscoll is a very tragic one and Disney still does this legally today. Like how they did the same to Britney Spears years after Bobby.
Also Pooh Corner was creepy I saw the episode that explained what you do when a adult touches you inappropriately... Yea..
Speaking of Disney ruining child actors, I noticed that they didn't say much, if anything, after Tommy Kirk passed away. Guess they didn't want people to remember who got him essentially blacklisted to begin with because he was gay (spoiler, it was Uncle Walt. He was super creepy about Annette Funicello working on non-Disney films too)
@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 And no one mentions that
I wanna make a honorable mention: in one of Blameitonjorge's lost media Disney videos, he mentions that some of the disney Channel bumpers were lost due to less films or less storage. Another mention is that there was a time where both live action shows and cartoons did a "how many can you spot" phase and for some unknown reason it was deemed lost after the shows were completed.
Just like to say that in "Runaway Brain" Mickeys not in Pete's body, he's in a different character called Julius who debuted in the short. He's actually a Kingdom Hearts bossfight believe it or not.
I love love love the variety of videos on this channel. It's like a grab bag of topics, but they're always so interesting and fun to watch. ☆
Happy late birthday Josh! Also hope you and Nin had an amazing time yesterday for Valentine’s Day! I deactivated my public twitter account but I just wanna say I hope you and Nin are doing well 💛
I would’ve included the lost audio for Josh Keaton’s Spider-Man in the ‘Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes” as a part of this list. You see, Josh Keaton, voice of Spidey in the Spectacular Spider-Man reprised his role as Spidey for the series but at the last minute, Disney decided to redub all of his audio with Drake Bell because Ultimate Spider-Man was out at the time. MAJOR downgrade.
**TIMESTAMPS:**
**The Surface**
Bing Bong Original Death Scene: 1:03
Mickey Mouse in Vietnam: 2:26
Toy Story Black Friday: 3:33
Villain Elsa: 4:49
Zootopia’s Shock Collar: 6:24
Pinocchio Lost Dialogue: 8:18
**Shallow waters:**
Fantasia 3/2006: 8:50
Runaway Brain: 11:04
Oswald The Lucky Rabbit (my beloved)’s Lost Episodes: 12:41
Kingdom Heart’s Animatied Pilot: 13:45
Infinity 4: 15:15
**Iceberg Dephs:**
Alice in Wonderland (original movie): 17:00
The Lion King’s deleted ending: 18:10
The original Emperor’s New Groove: Kingdom of sun: 19:01
Bambi meets Godzilla (WHAT?): 20:27
Jungle Book - original film: 20:50
Disney Channel pop-up movies: 22:51
Enchanted Deleted Song: 23:23
The Lizzy McGuire Revival: 24:23
**Deep Waters:**
Fantasia (Deleted Scenes): 26:40
Alice Comedies: 28:51
Welcome to Pooh corner: 30:24
**The Depths:**
Mickey and Minnie lost fortification tape: 31:28
Uncle Walt: 33:23
Walt: The Pointer: 34:33
Thank you! I'll add these in
This is not the video I expected to come out of this channel but I'm more than happy that it did.
I'm pretty sure the "Pop Up" media trend started with "Pop-Up Video", a program on VH1 in the late 90s in which popular music videos of the era would have little inside facts and trivia pop up on the screen. Many episodes and segments from Pop-Up Video are also lost media.
Omg?? Two of my favorite youtubers!!
I probably shouldn't have, but I laughed at the Bambi meets Godzilla short. Your commentary just makes it even funnier. 😂
I remember the pop up versions of the Disney Channel movies! The facts were cool but I always found the pop ups distracting. I’m sure at my parents’ house they have one or two recorded on VHS tape, because we used to do that a lot. I never knew they were considered lost media!
As a “loyalist”, I still side with the good influence of Disney. It’s true we cannot sugarcoat, erase, or even just deny the existence of the “dark side”. But if we keep looking on the dark side (whether or not that’s just part of reality nowadays), it’s just gonna make things worse for everyone, including you! Every path is full of obstacles and challenges that seem horrifying to us these days, but remember what Rafiki once said:
“The past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or learn from it!”
Better watch this now before Disney strikes it.
I get so excited when my notifications pop up and there is a new video from phantomstrider!
Whoopee.. 100 years of false hope and dreams. And look at the garbage they have now.
I'm only here for Strider and Blameitonjorge because they're both freakin' sweet.
Wow man you did two of my favorite topics iceberg and lost media please do more of thses
This video was really fun and fascinating. I wouldn't consider myself a huge fan of Disney but even I found this video really interesting.
I would honestly love to see disney make something out of these scraped movie plot ideas. Maybe have a graphic novel series that explores these what if scenarios like the dystopian shock collar zootpia, villain elsa or kingdom of the sun etc. Like the disney version of Marvels What If…? Comics. I’d totally read that!
I now want a AU Graphic Novel to do with the original ending of The Lion King and focusing on a more bitter, damaged, ruined, emotionally and mentally destroyed Simba.
It’s not like they haven’t done it before. They have a series of books called “Disney Twisted Tales” which take popular films, like The Little Mermaid and Snow White, and make their “bad endings”
I always forget what the "Black Friday Reel" actually is and imagine a scene where toys in a store are watching the carnage of 4AM shoppers fighting over them. It could make for an interesting villain origin, potentially, seeing how humans treat each other and carrying that knowledge to their new home, where they remain numb and disinterested in their child, even when other toys are happy with their life.
This was a great video! I loved it a lot Strider... but, I have to be honest, you missed A LOT of Disney content, like two feature film versions of Hiawatha, cancelled Disney sequels, Gremlins, the older feature film drafts of Mickey and the Beanstalk and Bongo, among many more; ironically, this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to THE AMOUNT of lost Disney content, but that's to be expected with a company as massive and as old as Disney.
Not mad at you or anything; it's a great video, you did pretty good... but you probably have enough content for like ten ice bergs... at least! Also, I kind-of wish you went into more detail about some of these subjects, like Alice in Wonderland, but... to be frank, a lot of this stuff can be so detailed and complicated, they might as well be videos of their own
Pretty sure the Alice Comedies were so abstract and plotless because the book was abstract with a non-cohesive plot. That’s kind of the point of Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, so it only makes sense that Walt’s first project influenced by those stories would share those elements.
About the "Winnie the Pooh" show with the costumes: I grew up watching it in the 90s in Germany. It was very cute and I didn't think it was scary at all. Is it really lost? Well, it was on German TV in the 90s.
It's been a hot minute since Strider and Jorge collaborated.
Great video as always, Strider!
At 3:30 Toy Story - Black Friday Reel/Evil Woody, at 4:48 The Original Frozen with Villain Elsa/Evil Elsa
at 6:22 The Shock Collar/The Taming Shock Collar From Zootopia and at 18:08 The Lion King Deleted Ending/Alternative Ending. You covered those 4 deleted scenes in the Top 6 Darkest Disney Deleted Scenes video from 6 years ago when the video was published on TH-cam in 2018 the 21st of September on a Friday and at 11:02 you also covered the Mickey Mouse Runway Brain episode in the Top 6 Creepiest Mickey Mouse Cartoons video from 7 years ago when the video was published on TH-cam in 2017 the 31st of August on a Thursday.
Blameitonjorge is back again!
Also nice job explaining an iceberg.
Hey Strider, I wonder if you remember this one. There was a mid-2000s Disney animated show called "Teamo Supremo" about a three-man band of superhero kids. Captain Crandall, Skater Lad and a cowboy-themed girl I cant remember the name of. Surprisingly, the show is mostly missing from the Disney archive and very few episodes exist now. Weirdly, the only episode I remember, where Skater Lad gained a much cooler rival in Scooter Lad, is one of the missing ones! I might have once even owned a recording of it until a friend I lent it to accidentally destroyed the tape. I wonder if any progress has been made on locating Teamo Supremo? Anyway, its an interesting thing to look into!
Yeah the KH take is... okay, so imagine you're working on a story. Any story, but this one was a miracle story only made possible by chance meetings. And then people from another country come and make a version in another media and there's no sign you're going to be part of the creative process, and that it might not be close to the story you have in your head.
This is why it was veto'd by Nomura - especially since, at this point, KH 2 and the such had been approved. (Also KH:CoM is easy to understand. That line was about how as Sora climbed higher up the tower, he'd seemingly lose memories. But gain new ones of somebody else.)
There's one really deep piece of lost media i'm surprised wasn't mentioned- the 1994 episode of the Disney live-action/puppet series Adventures in Wonderland "White Rabbits Can't Jump", that episode was never aired because it starred O.J. Simpson as the white rabbit and it's scheduled airing just happened to be a few weeks after he was accused of murder so the episode was ultimately removed from the schedule and never aired, a story-book version showing pictures from the episode was released but the episode has still not been found.