Can you DIY an Atlas Shelter?
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00:00 Intro
00:15 Crane overview
01:15 Counter-balancing the crane
04:57 Lowering the shelter
08:40 Lowering the Gen-Pod
09:38 Installing the escape hatch - บันเทิง
Looks a bit small , back in the 70s my uncle bought a house & unbeknownst to him it had a sealed 10 floor bunker built under it . Him & my dad had to cut the door off just to get inside . The crazy thing was the house & the bunker was built in the 50s by some guy that was a engineer so he knew what he was doing , to this day my uncle still has the house & every 10 years he updates it . It’s cool to hang out in . Just about every Christmas & thanks giving I go down In It when I,m over .
Wonder how the guy got rid of all the dirt ? Then a ton of material would be needed . Must not be many neighbors nearby .
Sounds awesome , don't tell anyone about it , oops it's a little late now . Nah you're okay , you guys will be popping up out in 20 years and slaying zombies .
@Next Level Only 15 floors? My uncle bought an old house and unbeknownst to him it had a 20 home underground neighborhood with a small grocery store and every thing was fully operational, being it was made by an engineer and all.
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KaChow!
Yeah that never happened
@@diesirae6780
You'd be surprised.
Many people in the midwest plains have converted old missile silos & cold war bunkers into livable homes.
My friend's Dad did nearly the same, but w/out a grocery store inside.
Wow, that's some high end stuff Scott. I'm glad you're staying busy.
Great video! Great content! You always make it look so easy! Excited to see the end result! Have a great day! 👍
If you do t interference on signal wires, keep them at least a foot from high voltage, and use shielded, properly grounded cable, but the further away you put it, the better.
Should build houses like this in tornado alley.
I'm in full agreement with you on this one!🎯💯💯💯👍👍
Bunkers or cheap houses that you can rebuild eaisly.
Excellent topic 👍👍👍!! Thanks again!!
This is a really nice project. You-guys are doing great.
Very cool 👍😎👍
Looks easily defeated if someone plugs the vents/fresh air intakes. In my opinion vents and intakes need to be ran away from the entrance, spread in different directions. Definitely more work but something to consider. Cool project.
Amen
I’ve always thought that the intake pipes needed to be far enough away from the bunker as well. Also, I’d like to run the emergency tunnel a good 50 yards away as well so that you’re not coming out to danger if people were trying to break in. If only I had the money.
Place a building on top of it and you can run intake through the building and make it look like something innocent.
question, how about "organic" oxygen source? like a room full of very sturdy plants that needs little water and sunlight?
Yeah ik right
One of the things you need to do is to not have your air intake so close to your generator exhaust, your just going to suck some of that back down into the shelter. I'm not an expert but that's my opinion.
Some great work to see thank you for the video. :)
Awesome works boys !!! How long have you been installing Rons bunkers for?
This gravel pit you have made around your bunker will be your underground retention water pond...... let’s check back in a few years.
Good work.
Just a thought, not a criticism. Personally, I’d use something heavier than PVC for unprotected, exterior conduit, like IMC (Intermediate Metal Conduit).
After welding seams, you'd better remove those bolts & fully weld the holes, or else it absolutely will leak.
Guaranteed.
Is this so? 🤔
So this might be a lack of understanding on my part, but from other videos I got the impression that rain water would bring radiation below grade. Your whole area around the bunker is gravel and the natural soil looks to be red clay. So did you put clay soil over top of the gravel or some engineered water barrier to prevent water from pooling in the porous rock ? I’m just wondering if any entry will cause radioactive water to gather around the shelter and then it penetrates into the shelter. ...... or did you create a lead barrier to prevent radiation from penetrating the shelter walls?
i agree. the gravel surround seems like a huge water gathering area.
Great Video 👍
Love the army trailer
AWESOME VIDEO!!!!!!!
Amazing content Engineer 775. How much one these gonna cost. And on a side note, will you fly to Caribbean to install a complete off grid solar system if a client requested?
Concrete/Cinderblock bunker over metal tube....Id get cabin fever up in that lil thing I need room to move lol.
That's awesome, where do I find the link to the finished product and inside tour ?
You can anything if you know how but you would want to make sure its done right.
That's the exact opposite of vacuum excavation! I've used vactor trucks for digging out areas where a backhoe couldn't get into and a shovel crew would have taken too long.
This is one of my favorite videos of Atlas, great job with all details, which I appreciate.
A Amateur Radio Operator will need a 2 inch pipe to run cable and lines. I put a 4 inch for my house to run my stuff threw it and it is tight.
My experience with non metallic electrical conduit, Always full of water. How did you seal ?
Use primer when you glue it. If pvc can keep sewer in you bet it can keep ground water out. Also bed it, once you glue it that's it leave it be so many guys glue it out of the trench and then throw 200ft of glued together pipe in at once and your joints will leak if you do that. Pay attention to how a plumber runs pvc underground and you'll have no problems.
Don't glue it like an electrician. 😂
I wonder what you could do if you followed power or com's cabling into the ground, found the top of those plastic pipes and poured fuel down them instead of the well protected air vent?
Lucky! The best I might ever have is a converted underground crap tank..
Just wondering what the life expectancy is of that? I didn't see or hear about anything used to prevent that metal from rusting.
It's galvanized so it should last a while.
I have seen galvanized roofs rust out because they didn't have enough pitch. Pine needles, leaves, acorns accumulate and the roof stays wet in those areas and rust through. This wouldn't last 20 years 🤷♂️
@@ctraltdel6510 yeah exactly what I thought. Has to be sealed concrete.
Ductile iron lasts 100 years underground. Galvanized will last longer.
I'm surprised these shelters aren't at minimum 10ft deep. just from overall potential hazards associated with certain blasts and fallout
They don't need to be that deep. If you're right at ground zero it won't matter. 3 ft of dirt and the fact your head it away from the ceiling will protect you from fallout very well during that initial "hot" period. But why you'd want to survive after....sooner or later all that tech will not work.
Typical depth of soil needed to guard against radiation is only about 3'
You only need 2 feet of soil or whatever on top of you.
NICE VIDEO DEAR SIR KEEP IT UP
Wow look at the flex in that POS
Better hope nothing goes wrong exterior wise. Going to be a big pain to dig that back out.
Why backfill with the rock and gravel rather than just backfill with the soil that was there? Drainage? Pressure? Or to not damage the utility pipes?
I found a giant underground fuel tank that looks to be in good condition. It's 40' x 9' could this be used as a bunker? I don't suppose gas would leave an odor behind with steel. As long as the vapors are gone It should work right?
be very careful with containers used for other things. It might be coated with something toxic etc. And also whether it could withstand at least 3ft of dirt + 1ft of concrete
Galvanized fittings underneath for the well doesn’t seem like a good idea what if it ever failed how would you fix it? Brass would be a much better idea or some sort of dielectric unionBut galvanize seems like the worst idea if you ask me a plumber with over 20 years in the trade.
By the time the galv is spalling this thing will probably have other,
bigger catastrophic failures.
Any one know why gravel was used to fill the hole back in and not the dirt that came out of it? I know water would drain better but that must have cost a small fortune to buy 45 yards and then drop it in with that fancy machine..
Drainage is exactly the reason
Looks like the native soil at that location is clay heavy. Now if you could find a nice sandy location...
Well, if your serious:
63514 E. Highway 77, Oracle, AZ. 85623
Titan 2 missile complex including 11.78 acres of land.
$495,000
Question staying on how the electrical stuff is underneath and rocks is built around it if anything outside of their brakes are malfunctions how do you get in there to repair
Good question. It should probably remain accessible for inspection and maintenance/repairs.
Im curious why culverts and welded boxes are the chosen methods over sonotubes and poured concrete. Id imagine concrete would be cheaper.
Wowow...
Nice.
You check the shelter for Radon Gas levels? They may be toxic if u use bluestone aggregate as bedding in material even tho sandy soil may not be.
Good luck
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Just wondering if the air intake. Generator exhaust, and air discharge should all be right next to each other. I feel like you'll be taken in a lot of fumes
I suspect they'll be separated before they get to the surface. :)
@@dougdobbs hahah il buy that.
So what do you do when outside forces destroy your solar and generator exhaust and other 'external' lines?
you shoot the few ppl who would have any energy left from the starvation that follows most disasters
Just curious why you don't use pea gravel you wouldn't have to worry about compaction.
We might use some on the next one just for flow but the 57 works good once you get up a little higher.
@@engineer775 Pea gravel has gone up in price. One of the more expensive stone choices.
Is loose rock better than soil when it comes to shielding from radiation or because of your location was radiation not a consideration when placing your shelter?
it's a drainage thing. pack soil in around that and the water has nowhere to go but into your shelter and you basically have a submarine underground. the gravel lets any water collect at the bottom and be pumped out. it also has a radiation attenuation closer to rock than soil and depending on what final grade is, there still might be 4'+ of soil over all this.
Ron goes over radiation attenuation on his website and TH-cam videos. There is plenty in this location for it to not be an issue for sure.
www.atlassurvivalshelters.com/
nice.. my shelter is underground.... but only 24 inch diameter pipe, cozy
can you give more info on a small hand dug one
So instead of routing conduit under the floor in the bunker, and behind the entrance ladder, they run it next to the bunker inside compacted gravel? Hope you don't ever need to replace burnt wire, or upgrade something. Also, maybe have the sump pump accessible through a hatch in the bunker. Half ass apocalypse shelters are annoying in their garbageness.
Yeah we do take care not to bust any conduits or fittings and I know when some bunkers it is run down through the entrance and that still could be done later on if there was ever a problem.
If this is half ass who has a whole ass shelter?
For the rest of the class, these are the real deal ...
(As featured on Engineer775 TV)
www.atlassurvivalshelters.com/
@@engineer775 Ridged conduit would have been better underground. I’ve never seen pvc used at that depth with that load on top. Maybe 6’ max and for non critical circuits. Anything at depth or mainline should be ridged..
I’d build a crummy looking shack on top of this shelter to contain and disguise air intakes and vents. Preferably through a false chimney. Or false plumbing vent
Total financial outlay for such a project would be interesting. I'd bet $100,000 plus.
My quick math at local prices shows over 20k in just the gravel to backfill
He said $250-300k
Thanks for showing how this is done so any intruders know what to look for
Larry Foster ...hummmm air vents and other thing...once they go in they won’t be coming back out easy pickings.
How much cheaper would it be to do it yourself why not use pea gravel
It doesn’t seem you created any cleat-like protrusions; so, the cylinder (save for the access tube) has no resistance on spinning in place.
I note this - thinking of all contingencies, that were a prolonged and drastically horrible seismic event to occur and the shelter were somehow (for any reason) motivated to rotate along its long axis,...nothing but the access tube and what utility protrusions there are, would offer resistance. It would become a tug-of-war over mostly the strength of the access tube connection versus the strength of the rotational instigation.
So - my questions...
One, is this scenario considerable or am I thinking too far outside the box?
Two, if considerable, how best to build to guard against this possibility?
Thinking way way too far buddy…
What do you think the cost of this project is start to end? Probably north of $300k is my guess.
250k
@@engineer775 that is the cost of the big boy, install, etc, yes?
How much did this project run?
Why don’t you put filter fabric on the sides?
How high up are piling dirt? And thicknesses of cement, reinforced or not? Definitely doesn’t look like you’ll have enough over burden to protect against radiation, let alone blasts...needs to be way deeper, unless you’re using hardened, reinforced, leaded concrete. Which I don’t think you are.
Ron goes over all of the info on blast/radiation protection on his website and TH-cam videos. www.atlassurvivalshelters.com/
How do I get to the 2nd video
Did you say galvanized fitting for the water? !
no geofabric on the sides? overtime you'll get fines intrusion, loose permeability. encase all that gravel like casing on a sausage
No compacting either?
MrThisIsMeToo He explains the compaction
Non-woven geotech around the stone and dimplemat around the shelter ALONG WITH his silicone and sump pump would be the belt and suspenders and clean underwear and another pair in the glove box -just in case, approach. But the client often determines the budget and the list of needs/wants and the designer needs to navigate a zoom world where clients no longer own pants.
@@melvin_0bviously haha, got it...I was in my ideal theoretical world there for a second....client pays the bills. Keep them videos coming...very enjoyable
havn't watched the whole video yet, so may delete.... but what was your cost?
how can you pump out the water in case you have no electrifity?
Shore power, solar, genset, etc
I thought that all the joints were to be bolted and welded together?
@engineer775 I’ve got some questions that I’d like to ask you, as I’m about to begin my own bunker project. Are you open to a call?
It looks great but not exactly "Do it yourself" with all the earthworks, gravel conveyers, and tons of contractors. I'd say all in all looks like the cost of a small home.
Air intake right next to gen exhaust!?
I think the air-exit pipe is on the gen-pod end.
that's the gen air intake. not living space air
I recognize an Atlas shelter when I see it 😀
Can you? Yes. If you have the knowledge you can do anything DIY. :)
Nice if you have the land and the money for it.
Looks awesome, but with your experience doing lots of underground work and other previous builds and being an actual engineer I wouldn’t consider this project a typical DIY project lol. As a master electrician occasionally helping out white collar friends I think you may be giving yourself too little credit and over estimating the mechanical aptitude of most people.
Blue print to hire and instruct tho.
Yes you can is my guess
Why so much stone? I'm thinking that with all that stone there will be voids, voids that will fill with water, and since there are voids it's less dense, so less protection from radiation. I'm i right or wrong? What were your reasons for the stone?
Stones dont hold water so that the bunker will be dryer. How much it protects compared to dirt idk
@@kaptein1247 That much rock creates voids, voids fill with water. without a line towards the bottom of the rock, it will fill with water.
water is dense.
@@dancooper3066 thats what the pump is for. And dirt sucks up all the moisture and holds it in place. Which will make the bunker rust a whole lot quicker.
Best way is to cover it in concrete anyways.
@@dancooper3066 thats what the pump is for. And dirt sucks up all the moisture and holds it in place. Which will make the bunker rust a whole lot quicker.
Best way is to cover it in concrete anyways.
How do you heat and cool it?
Should stay around 68 degrees year round.
Well, I couldn’t... but would love it if I could.
Hey Boss , where is Johnny V. ?
I like how so meny people comment one little thing that could be done differently or better not as a suggestion but as a reason you shouldn't build a shelter at all. I rather have an imperfect bunker than just a cracker jack box house when the shtf
Yes Everyone has this kind of money. Geeez
What no supporting steel? Rock is heavy and will make pressure on sides.
Still not full of water?
why not 40' maritime containers instead of pipe?
Rectangular shipping containers cannot be easily buried as they are designed to bear weight on the corners only, and very quickly deform ( squash) when backfilling. Also, second hand shipping containers are second hand for a reason, they are damaged, often rusted badly, and no longer suitable for purpose. New shipping containers are very expensive, not galvanised and have the same issue with not being designed to be buried. For reasonable cost, you can purchase the galvanised cylindrical culvert pipe, in various standard diameters, and almost unlimited lengths.
cat6 why not just use fiber?
To build a form would have saved several yards, and had rebar.
My god that must be expensive!
Check out the Atlas site. Yep, cheap ones are pricey for most folks. They have some priced more than my 2600 SF home. For younger folks with the financial means, go for it. I'm on the down hill side of life, focused on taking care of an elderly relative and if there's any life left in me, and the world has turned totally to a New Green Deal, I'm going to travel and burn up some fossil fuel.
yolo
I see one problem. That hole is lined with clay. The water is going to flow through the rock ad just sit in the bottom of that hole up against the outside of the shelter. That can’t be good for the shelter.?
If it is all clay the sump will pump it out. The shelter itself is water tight. Check out the website to see the what n how on it's construction www.atlassurvivalshelters.com/
If the budget had allowed for it it would be smart to put a gravity drain to daylight down the hill. My guess is the budget wouldn't allow for that.
@@dougdobbs Sounds like a good idea to me as well, but I agree that it most likely wasn't in the budget.
11:50 Don't get... stoned :) (Queue the bad dad jokes)
And if something fails you need to dig all that stuff out to repair! Or run a whole new system inside….. i did comment at the start
What did it cost for this installation excluding the price of the bunker?
Little over $40.
See my comment that Engineer775 responded to. He said $250k.
@@hoffdodge I saw that I thought that price he gave you included the bunker
Soo much stone!!!
F-ing killer- neat
Why gravel?
Why the bleep would I?
I seen one mistake that you made you didn't tamp pack the gravel
Tomb
Of course you can if you know how to ryn heavy equipment, do your research and have a good welder.
What about putting a 20 ft conex in the ground? I allready did. just seeing what you think?
The conex container will basically implode. The walls aren't ment for holding back the weight of the earth surrounding it .I've seen them crush like soda cans. They are strong only in a vertical way. Like one stacked on top of another. The sides don't have the strength to hold back the ground pressure pushing on the sides. There are many videos that show this exact situation. The idea sounds great but they're not ment to be buried, where as a round culvert is and distributes the pressure evenly around the culvert. It's the round shape that gives the extra strength and reinforcement. You may be able to save yours if you add walls to help distribute the weight and push out against the walls of your conex
Short answer: You can do it yourself but you'll almost certainly just be making a death trap when you don't know what you are doing.
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I grew up just after the big craze of the 1950s when people were making bomb shelters and within a year of being built, most of them were full of water.
Those were the good ones.
That’s a whole lot of people that know where a bunker is now…
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