Yes, of course vegan activists should discuss and have more knowledge about religions, especially street activists, but also youtubers, if they want to address other people's opnions and belief systems. I hope to see more debates of you and other vegan youtubers on religions.
Patricia wasn't prepared for this debate. I agree that precise definitions of such words like God or consciousness are are essential for a fruitful discussion. I would appreiciate though if you explained your understanding of the word carnism as well and its connection with religions.
yes, we can reframe "is there God" question to "Is consciousness or matter a foundation of reality", definitely we need to agree to some definion of consciousness or even start a discussion from this point.
sorry, I can't understand your sentence, for me it doesn't make sense even from gramatical point of view. Can you re-write it so that I would understand what you are asking about?
You cannot predict what the possiblity of our universe. You have no comparison. ..... If universes come into existance at a rate of 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000to the power of a billion.... per micro second with random attributes. . and has been doing so for 1000000000000000000 billions years. then no our universe or somthing very simular could be rather abondoned.
We are very attached to randomness because this is sth that have been experiencing since we appeared on the earth. Therefore we must use our imagination to go beyond reality we have experienced. Because there is no randomness if there is nothing. What we got to know and perceive as randomness is always the result of prior events. True spontanous randomness doesn't exist.
What does that mean? You can randomly hit a ball on a pool table and if you do it a billion times at some point there would be a pattern that the balls would fall in. It would seemingly create order through randomness . If you want to state that NO order could ever come from a random act. That is simply not true.
@@IgnoranceBegetsConfidence You can throw the ball an infinite number of times and there wouldn't be a pattern. An actual random act is completely devoid of any pattern, if you see a pattern then it is you creating it....
No, you didn't win right away and Patricia didn't prove god exists by not giving a clear definition. She proved belief in god exists and there are some very common god claims/definitions.
she proved he exists in people's mind = exists. By not giving a precise definition, she didn't establish that he must exist regardless of people's minds
@@KasperKatje in literature? Yes. There is, for example, the fairy tale "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" If that is what you mean, because I have never seen this word and needed to translate it. Is it the same as swarfs?
@@VeganikaPolishActivist yes, it's an Irish dwarf and something with a four leaf clover and I believe a pot of gold. So they exist in folklore, in literature and people's mind, just like the biblical god. But it would be stupid to use them to base laws and your life on, just like the god claimed by many. But I am not sure if you only want(ed) to claim god as the creator.
yes, of course it would be stupid to base laws and your life on dwarfs same as it is crazy to base it on biblical god. Therefore I am so active in criticizing biblical ethics and trying to tell other vegans into doing the same. Didn't I say this in this debate. Or didn't I repeat it again in my yesterday video about Carnism Debunked?
what would you expect to be achieved other than intellectual entertainment or inspiration to check the current science. Patricia lacked basic knowledge so she unfortunatelly didn't understand what I was talking about. So we could only play the game of words hoping that some random pepople drown by the topic will visit our vegan channels.
@VeganikaPolishActivist I emailed you a couple of days ago but somehow that email never processed. Now, I need your email because I no longer have it. 👍
I am sorry, I haven't received any email. Now I tried to reach you from my side, I send message to email given on your channel. Please, let me know if you can see it.
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Yes, of course vegan activists should discuss and have more knowledge about religions, especially street activists, but also youtubers, if they want to address other people's opnions and belief systems. I hope to see more debates of you and other vegan youtubers on religions.
Patricia wasn't prepared for this debate. I agree that precise definitions of such words like God or consciousness are are essential for a fruitful discussion. I would appreiciate though if you explained your understanding of the word carnism as well and its connection with religions.
yes, we can reframe "is there God" question to "Is consciousness or matter a foundation of reality", definitely we need to agree to some definion of consciousness or even start a discussion from this point.
Great vid!
thanks
Patricia has several irrational and morally bankrupt notions and beliefs
Can you provide any examples? I've already noticed that she's mean to other vegans plus she's a zionist.
God 😆 🤣 😂
No god doesn’t exist. Fuck other people’s feelings. Just be a good person. Be politically active. It affects you more than this worry does.
and be vegan! first of all
and the question wether Gos exists in not a worry, but intellectual entertainment.
Being a good person involves eating meat and not being a vegan.....
Animal sacrifice? Cursing the serpent? Jesus on 2 donkeys?
what are you talking about?
@@VeganikaPolishActivist you asked "what do you think the subject/objections against religion are in a discussion with a vegan atheist?".
sorry, I can't understand your sentence, for me it doesn't make sense even from gramatical point of view. Can you re-write it so that I would understand what you are asking about?
You cannot predict what the possiblity of our universe. You have no comparison. ..... If universes come into existance at a rate of 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000to the power of a billion.... per micro second with random attributes. . and has been doing so for 1000000000000000000 billions years. then no our universe or somthing very simular could be rather abondoned.
We are very attached to randomness because this is sth that have been experiencing since we appeared on the earth. Therefore we must use our imagination to go beyond reality we have experienced. Because there is no randomness if there is nothing. What we got to know and perceive as randomness is always the result of prior events. True spontanous randomness doesn't exist.
@@VeganikaPolishActivist determinism I suppose.
You don't get order from randomness.....
What does that mean? You can randomly hit a ball on a pool table and if you do it a billion times at some point there would be a pattern that the balls would fall in. It would seemingly create order through randomness . If you want to state that NO order could ever come from a random act. That is simply not true.
@@IgnoranceBegetsConfidence You can throw the ball an infinite number of times and there wouldn't be a pattern. An actual random act is completely devoid of any pattern, if you see a pattern then it is you creating it....
No, you didn't win right away and Patricia didn't prove god exists by not giving a clear definition.
She proved belief in god exists and there are some very common god claims/definitions.
she proved he exists in people's mind = exists. By not giving a precise definition, she didn't establish that he must exist regardless of people's minds
@@VeganikaPolishActivist so leprachauns exist?
@@KasperKatje in literature? Yes. There is, for example, the fairy tale "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" If that is what you mean, because I have never seen this word and needed to translate it. Is it the same as swarfs?
@@VeganikaPolishActivist yes, it's an Irish dwarf and something with a four leaf clover and I believe a pot of gold.
So they exist in folklore, in literature and people's mind, just like the biblical god.
But it would be stupid to use them to base laws and your life on, just like the god claimed by many.
But I am not sure if you only want(ed) to claim god as the creator.
yes, of course it would be stupid to base laws and your life on dwarfs same as it is crazy to base it on biblical god. Therefore I am so active in criticizing biblical ethics and trying to tell other vegans into doing the same. Didn't I say this in this debate. Or didn't I repeat it again in my yesterday video about Carnism Debunked?
Terrible debate...nothing archieved.
what would you expect to be achieved other than intellectual entertainment or inspiration to check the current science. Patricia lacked basic knowledge so she unfortunatelly didn't understand what I was talking about. So we could only play the game of words hoping that some random pepople drown by the topic will visit our vegan channels.
@VeganikaPolishActivist I emailed you a couple of days ago but somehow that email never processed. Now, I need your email because I no longer have it. 👍
I am sorry, I haven't received any email. Now I tried to reach you from my side, I send message to email given on your channel. Please, let me know if you can see it.
@@VeganikaPolishActivist
Got it! I'll reply now