I'm glad you got involved as I trust your judgement a lot more than most gun tubers! Appreciate Eureka's efforts to make their product ambi. Probably have to trade my l/h tikka to get one thanks to our WA new laws. I though Victoria and Dictator Dan were bad until WA Labour said "hold my bong" lol!
Great update; a lot of us are following the ASA videos very closely; and personally, I've been waiting to see your take on the firearm. The torture test will be the next hurdle given the aluminium chassis, but so far seems to be the best option in its class without dropping $4k on a WFA1. Looking forward to you doing a full review when it comes out.
Sweet looking rig, keen to see what NSW categorises it as! If it gets the all clear I think I’ll hang out a while… I made the mistake of buying and early taipan before they ironed out the creases…. Definitely keen on .308
Good background for the videos, keep that. Rifle looks promising, not too "busy" if you know what i mean. Some of those tactical rifles can look like to much going on.
Great to see these guys having a crack at this market and grinding towards a result. I hope they are well supported by Aussies in the firearms space, especially TH-cam "influencers."
@@CountryMusicSavedMe I'm referring to something other than monetary support, but that would help. I believe that their aim is all States compliance though, hence the lack of standard component and accessories compatibility.
That's quite acceptable for hunting & could get better with finished gun & more ammo brand testing. Federal Fusion still make a 62 grain round, I'd like to see that in testing.
We'll be very interested in one of these to try for culling work on our properties in the few roles where 223 might suit, if they are available with a 20' barrel. For us, we are chasing as high a muzzle velocity we can get to give the cartridge adequate power. Let's hope.
Isn't that exciting? That spring-assisted system demoed in their video shows potential for cycling the bolt much faster than other rifles, by simply pressing a button with the same hand, even surpassing pump actions like the Taipan. More tactical and closer to the performance of a semi. Could be a new trend?
Curious if the accuracy increases if that front scope ring is knocked back a couple of picatinny slots. Hard to tell from the video but looks a tad too close to the objective bell.
Any reason why it's .223 and not .223 wylde? Would be nice if it was compatible with 5.56 NATO rounds. Also, that magazine release might need a fence around it?
Because the inventor thinks 223 wylde is a 'sloppy chamber'. I agree, that would have been a better choice. Man, having a fence around the mag catch is a great idea.
@@fhckoutdoorsi know this has probably been mooted around a tonne however from your discussions with the manufacturers following the release of the .223 option how soon would they look at other calibres? Also could one theoretically re-barrel one in 300 BLK?
Do you have to lift your head off the stock to be able to move your hand to hit the bolt release ? Looks like it in the video? That would rule me out as (a) have midget hands and (b) bad ergos do my head in.
I also suffer from a degree of retardation....glad to hear the production lever will be longer. For reasons that escape me, no Aus mfg seems to be able to understand that reaching a mile for a cocking lever is a major turn-off. The brits have been doing straight pull/spring return AR type rifles for an age, as have some euro companies. Then there's the usual euro straight pull suspects. Surely some mfg here will catch on eventually.
@@travishimself1973 Crisp but in the heavy side (standard weight). It’s 4lbs but no creep. Straight trigger blade, which I’m not a fan of but they seem to be popular with most people.
If it was 223 Wylde id reckon it'd be a good addition to the safe but the way its going up here in qld with the community safety act I'd probably go with something that is wylde simply to get the most out of the rifle IF they bring in WA style restrictions otherwise it looks like a good open country setup...might be a bit weighty for close scrub country up here on the Cape?? 🍻🇦🇺
I'll love if Australia manufactures did something different, something not M4 / M16, not AK shaped, make their own iconic shape, guns are like cars, been the same design for basically 50 to 100 years, now i know it's because its the best to fit a human, yeah, not saying to make it so alien you need 3 fingers to shot it, just have an Australian shaped gun, not American or Russian.
It's based off the AAA, which was an Australian made rifle that was put to trails for the Australian Army in the 1980s - it lost out to the Steyr AUG, and entered service as the F88. The AAA was based on the operating system of the AR18/AR180. Seems pretty home grown Australian to me. If you want odd shaped guns, maybe consider buying a Genesis.
apart from being Australian made i really don't get the appeal of it, completely my own opinion. would have been great to have a camera angle on the left side of the gun whilst you were activating the leaver.
Interesting that they went with 1 in 8 with that. My 223 x bolt is 1 in 8 and so far I haven't found any factory hunting cartridges on the shelves more than 60 grain.
Dont go to Miami with that studio mate😂.....gun looks promising 16inch barrel with the 223 be a great roo gun . Are they at all worried for their company with how gun laws are going? Be abit daunting trying to grow a business while the government wants it all shut down.
@AustralianSportingAgencies cars are functional and are made to look good too, why not do both? You legit could have done something no one has yet like a gas lever release FAL and it would sell like hotcakes
@@KipKil1igan Probably wouldve ran afoul of military appearance laws in every state if they'd made it look like a FAL. Even Qld and Vic have mil appearance laws like NSW, they're just not as liberally applied. They're also building it to a price point. It still looks better than a genesis and a stock taipan anyway (not that those are particularly high bars)
@@KipKil1igan Weapons Categories Regulation 1997 5 Category D weapons (1) Each of the following is a category D weapon- (a) a self-loading centre-fire rifle designed or adapted for military purposes or a firearm that substantially duplicates a rifle of that type in design, function or appearance; Like I said. They're not as liberally applied as NSW's appearance laws, but Qld does have them on the books.
not without extreme amounts of work and custom engineered trigger, sear and hammer as well as complete removal of the locking system. the gun has no sear to hold back the hammer while the bolt returns forward and youre still holding the trigger, the locking system does that job, without the lock up or a sear the hammer comes forward with the bolt and youre left with a loaded chamber and a decocked gun.
Love your honesty Ed. Chassis aren't for me, but that's not to say that gun doesn't have its purpose. I don't subscribe to sub MOA rubbish from the manufacturers. Most people cannot shoot sub MOA anyway. What's the deal with Belmont? You based up here now, or just visiting. Asking cause I see your backdrop has changed as well.
I hope they go well in the market place. I don't know about the manufacturing side of things but. I would have looked into a ball bearing style lock-up instead of that rubbish colt bolt head failure. It's always been a very troublesome design which continues to be used due purely to the US military legacy. Had that rubbish idea not been adopted by the US Army, it would have died very quickly after release onto the market. I realise that Eureka have decided that the American market is the market to satisfy & that's understandable. Just a shame we couldn't see a far superior design used instead of that rubbish Colt abomination.
@@CountryMusicSavedMe I think the closest would be a HK style roller delay system, and while that would certainly work they'd have to be careful designing the system such that the gun doesn't unlock too forcefully and beat itself to death over a couple thousand rounds.
Thanks for the scoop mate! Would defiantly love to see your hands on 1 of the 5 in the future. Cheers
@@southeastcreations1700 Thanks mate! I hope so too
I'm glad you got involved as I trust your judgement a lot more than most gun tubers! Appreciate Eureka's efforts to make their product ambi. Probably have to trade my l/h tikka to get one thanks to our WA new laws. I though Victoria and Dictator Dan were bad until WA Labour said "hold my bong" lol!
Thanks mate, much appreciated
@@porterrockwell5287 100%
"bong" is being a tad generous, I'd probably say those germs are wayyyyyy too familiar with the business end of a glass barbie
Can’t wait to see a finished build too!!
Great update; a lot of us are following the ASA videos very closely; and personally, I've been waiting to see your take on the firearm. The torture test will be the next hurdle given the aluminium chassis, but so far seems to be the best option in its class without dropping $4k on a WFA1. Looking forward to you doing a full review when it comes out.
Don't worry, we keep a close eye on you too 😂
Sweet looking rig, keen to see what NSW categorises it as! If it gets the all clear I think I’ll hang out a while… I made the mistake of buying and early taipan before they ironed out the creases…. Definitely keen on .308
Looking forward to having a play with one. First thing I’ll be doing is fitting up an arca rail up front to hang off the tripod.
Ed,out of all the Aussie rifles of this type, this is the one I think I’ll get.
But I won’t be convinced until they throw it down the stairs…😂🚀
"If you've got stairs, we've got the rifle for you"
Done! 😂
@@AustralianSportingAgencies Don't forget a loaded up 60 series. Looking forward to the 9mm. Any chance of double stack (Glock) magwell adapter in it?
Good background for the videos, keep that. Rifle looks promising, not too "busy" if you know what i mean. Some of those tactical rifles can look like to much going on.
@@bestestusername thanks mate
Great to see these guys having a crack at this market and grinding towards a result.
I hope they are well supported by Aussies in the firearms space, especially TH-cam "influencers."
@@CountryMusicSavedMe I'm referring to something other than monetary support, but that would help.
I believe that their aim is all States compliance though, hence the lack of standard component and accessories compatibility.
I feel your pain being subjective with how lovely Eureka are
I’ve only met Rick but they’re a lovely bunch
I’m a big fan of the handle on it
Cool to see the belmont range
That's quite acceptable for hunting & could get better with finished gun & more ammo brand testing. Federal Fusion still make a 62 grain round, I'd like to see that in testing.
Youve upgraded to gamer twitch streaming setup👍
Yeah my other channel is streaming 17 hours of me saying "ooohh fuck" whenever an enemy appears hahah
@@fhckoutdoors 🤣
Good video mate. Good to see another opinion of it but keen to hear your thoughts after the proper review of the production model. 💪
@@intothenight1993 thanks mate. Hopefully I can get into it soon
Great video, and you are bang on regarding the 3 vs 5 round groups WRT sub MOA guarantees
Looks promising 👍
Cheers mate 👍
Thank you
You're welcome
We'll be very interested in one of these to try for culling work on our properties in the few roles where 223 might suit, if they are available with a 20' barrel. For us, we are chasing as high a muzzle velocity we can get to give the cartridge adequate power. Let's hope.
They offer it in a 20" in either 1:8 or 1:12.
@@fhckoutdoors Thanks for the positive heads-up mate
Isn't that exciting? That spring-assisted system demoed in their video shows potential for cycling the bolt much faster than other rifles, by simply pressing a button with the same hand, even surpassing pump actions like the Taipan. More tactical and closer to the performance of a semi. Could be a new trend?
Until it gets shut down, believe me.. it will. Hope it lasts.
Shhhhhh !
Looks awesome, very promising, also new studio?
Yep, new place.
@@fhckoutdoors looks a bit snazzier than the old goon cave
200th like 👍 😁 Pretty good rifle, even tho I’ve got no clue what’s talked about 😅
Curious if the accuracy increases if that front scope ring is knocked back a couple of picatinny slots. Hard to tell from the video but looks a tad too close to the objective bell.
Could be onto something there. I didnt mount the optic so didnt take much notice of it, but you're right, it does look pretty close to the bell.
What action is this rifle?? A button release bolt action?
Yes most likely but we won't know until final categorisation has been done by police.
Any reason why it's .223 and not .223 wylde?
Would be nice if it was compatible with 5.56 NATO rounds.
Also, that magazine release might need a fence around it?
Because the inventor thinks 223 wylde is a 'sloppy chamber'. I agree, that would have been a better choice.
Man, having a fence around the mag catch is a great idea.
@@fhckoutdoorsi know this has probably been mooted around a tonne however from your discussions with the manufacturers following the release of the .223 option how soon would they look at other calibres? Also could one theoretically re-barrel one in 300 BLK?
@@JSOWderulo They have plans to offer 300blk, I’m just not sure how soon after
@@fhckoutdoors thanks for the info I'll keep my eyes out 👌
Seems like there is some competition between ozzie firearm producers right now. Keen to see how stoackade, taipan x and warwick rifles compare
Any updates that you know of ?
Exciting times for Australian gun owners.
Yep!
Do you think old school aluminium ar15/m16 mags would run in one of these?
@@bigj2240 They should.
What’s the weight like?
I haven't weighed it, but I think its around 3.8kg?
Do you have to lift your head off the stock to be able to move your hand to hit the bolt release ? Looks like it in the video? That would rule me out as (a) have midget hands and (b) bad ergos do my head in.
Nah you don't have to lift your head, I'm just retarded.
The production lever will also be longer than the current one so you will reach it easier 🎉
I also suffer from a degree of retardation....glad to hear the production lever will be longer. For reasons that escape me, no Aus mfg seems to be able to understand that reaching a mile for a cocking lever is a major turn-off. The brits have been doing straight pull/spring return AR type rifles for an age, as have some euro companies. Then there's the usual euro straight pull suspects. Surely some mfg here will catch on eventually.
Gday from QLD- what type of gas mech? Short stroke piston or impingement ? Or some other Aussie bush mech bum grab mumbo
Short stroke piston.
Wish they can add a lever to both side
Good thinking, maybe in a gen 2. For now the safety would be in the way, but maybe an after market lever could be made.
Is the lever designed so that it can be changed to either side
@@cameronhickey7771 Yes, but you will need a right side lever which is slightly different to the right side lever. We will offer them after market
In the context of AR triggers, what's this one like?
@@travishimself1973 Crisp but in the heavy side (standard weight). It’s 4lbs but no creep. Straight trigger blade, which I’m not a fan of but they seem to be popular with most people.
If it was 223 Wylde id reckon it'd be a good addition to the safe but the way its going up here in qld with the community safety act I'd probably go with something that is wylde simply to get the most out of the rifle IF they bring in WA style restrictions otherwise it looks like a good open country setup...might be a bit weighty for close scrub country up here on the Cape?? 🍻🇦🇺
I'll love if Australia manufactures did something different, something not M4 / M16, not AK shaped, make their own iconic shape, guns are like cars, been the same design for basically 50 to 100 years, now i know it's because its the best to fit a human, yeah, not saying to make it so alien you need 3 fingers to shot it, just have an Australian shaped gun, not American or Russian.
It's based off the AAA, which was an Australian made rifle that was put to trails for the Australian Army in the 1980s - it lost out to the Steyr AUG, and entered service as the F88. The AAA was based on the operating system of the AR18/AR180. Seems pretty home grown Australian to me.
If you want odd shaped guns, maybe consider buying a Genesis.
apart from being Australian made i really don't get the appeal of it, completely my own opinion. would have been great to have a camera angle on the left side of the gun whilst you were activating the leaver.
Yeah fair point, probably should have filmed that.
G'day fom North West QLD
Interesting.
can you load another round without moving to much mate ...??
@@Gshock25able I had dramas firing prone, but standing was fine
@@fhckoutdoors yeah that makes sense ..is the thumb lever too short or tough? thanks for the reply mate ..im waiting for my rilfe to come
@@Gshock25able It’s soft as to flick, I just couldn’t reach it from prone.
@@fhckoutdoors awesome, cheers mate .I enjoy your content
@@Gshock25able Thanks man, much appreciated
Interesting that they went with 1 in 8 with that. My 223 x bolt is 1 in 8 and so far I haven't found any factory hunting cartridges on the shelves more than 60 grain.
They offer it in both 1:8 and 1:12.
@@fhckoutdoors Thanks. Do you have any recommendations for heavier 223 factory cartridges? I.e. for pigs/goats?
@@stuartmanuell4207 Anything that isn't FMJ will work well on game. Federal Fusions are good, being a bonded bullet.
@@fhckoutdoors Thanks. Wish I could find on the shelf somewhere. Considering reloading......
Dont go to Miami with that studio mate😂.....gun looks promising 16inch barrel with the 223 be a great roo gun
. Are they at all worried for their company with how gun laws are going? Be abit daunting trying to grow a business while the government wants it all shut down.
@@Paul-lk4np Nah they are pretty positive it’s going to be approved. They’ve had talks with QLD and NSW police about it.
@@fhckoutdoors awesome. Wish them all the best for the future
Think they're gonna try to ban it?
@@peterwarner2868 Nope
@@fhckoutdoors hope not it's a cool option.
Another aussie built rifle that probably wont be legal in NSW, damn our appearance laws
@@rockynrolling6206 Unlucky
Don’t loose all hope mate they have said they’re going to try.
Rifle is ugly as sin. Its just a rectangular block like the warwick
Sorry mate we went for functionality not looks.
@AustralianSportingAgencies cars are functional and are made to look good too, why not do both? You legit could have done something no one has yet like a gas lever release FAL and it would sell like hotcakes
@@KipKil1igan Probably wouldve ran afoul of military appearance laws in every state if they'd made it look like a FAL. Even Qld and Vic have mil appearance laws like NSW, they're just not as liberally applied.
They're also building it to a price point. It still looks better than a genesis and a stock taipan anyway (not that those are particularly high bars)
@@Hiraeth91537 QLD doesnt have appearance laws otherwise how does anyone own an Ociania sp15?
@@KipKil1igan Weapons Categories Regulation 1997
5 Category D weapons
(1) Each of the following is a category D weapon-
(a) a self-loading centre-fire rifle designed or adapted for military purposes or a firearm that substantially duplicates a rifle of that type in design, function or appearance;
Like I said. They're not as liberally applied as NSW's appearance laws, but Qld does have them on the books.
lol these things are gonna get modded to semi auto so easily
@@Opclipz Once you’ve seen the internals you’ll find it can’t.
not without extreme amounts of work and custom engineered trigger, sear and hammer as well as complete removal of the locking system. the gun has no sear to hold back the hammer while the bolt returns forward and youre still holding the trigger, the locking system does that job, without the lock up or a sear the hammer comes forward with the bolt and youre left with a loaded chamber and a decocked gun.
What he said!! 😂
Love your honesty Ed.
Chassis aren't for me, but that's not to say that gun doesn't have its purpose.
I don't subscribe to sub MOA rubbish from the manufacturers.
Most people cannot shoot sub MOA anyway.
What's the deal with Belmont?
You based up here now, or just visiting.
Asking cause I see your backdrop has changed as well.
@@damop4827 I’ve moved mate.
Welcome to Queensland brother.
Hope to shake your hand one day, just to say thanks for all you do. Keep up the good work.
Cheers.
@@damop4827 Thanks mate, much appreciated!
I hope they go well in the market place.
I don't know about the manufacturing side of things but. I would have looked into a ball bearing style lock-up instead of that rubbish colt bolt head failure.
It's always been a very troublesome design which continues to be used due purely to the US military legacy. Had that rubbish idea not been adopted by the US Army, it would have died very quickly after release onto the market. I realise that Eureka have decided that the American market is the market to satisfy & that's understandable. Just a shame we couldn't see a far superior design used instead of that rubbish Colt abomination.
@@rotasaustralis from my recollection it was the armalite design, not colt. But yeah I agree ball locks are superior and don’t require bolt rotation
@@CountryMusicSavedMe I think the closest would be a HK style roller delay system, and while that would certainly work they'd have to be careful designing the system such that the gun doesn't unlock too forcefully and beat itself to death over a couple thousand rounds.
Jealoussss