Pints With Aquinas # 200 | Andrew Swafford
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 เม.ย. 2020
- I sit down with Dr. Andrew Swafford (well before the Coronavirus madness) to discuss the Bible, and how you can love it more.
Andrew Swafford is Associate Professor of Theology at Benedictine College. He holds a doctorate in Sacred Theology from the University of St. Mary of the Lake and a master’s degree in Old Testament & Semitic Languages from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He is member of the Society of Biblical Literature, Academy of Catholic Theology, and a senior fellow at the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology. He lives with his wife Sarah and their five children in Atchison, KS.
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This was great. I came into the Church last Easter. My wife and kids remain Protestant. I am a former Protestant minister and was educated at a good Christian university with a great theology department. Episodes like this one really get me excited, where the guest is able to make connections in Scripture that I never heard (nor would have made sense) when I was a Protestant. Thank you for these videos and for all of your ministry. In my first short year as a Catholic I've encountered intense difficulties, some of which have even made me question my faith altogether (I haven't been to Mass since September and now that I'm finally feeling the draw back to Mass I can't go!). Apostolates like yours, Trent Horn's, and others have kept me connected to the Catholic/Christian world while I've been wandering in the desert the past few months. Words can't express how much your work means to me and the profound impact you are having on our world and culture for our Lord. Hope you and your bride are on the mend and feeling better. - Benjamin
I keep you in prayer. 🙏
00:05:00 Tells about himself.
~00:16:00 Jewish Jesus, understanding Bible in a holistic way.
~00:19:00 Restore confidence in the historical Jesus.
~00:21:00 Importance of both Old and New Testaments.
~00:25:00 Gradual revelation. Different kinds of law.
~00:29:00 The 10 plagues were strategic strikes against polyteism.
~00:32:00 Different sacrifices asked in Leviticus.
~00:37:00 How the Eucharist is the fulfillment of Passover lamb.
~00:40:00 Does symbolic view of the Eucharist align with ancient Jews’ hope?
~00:44:00 Restoration of all 12 tribes. Jew and Israelite is not the same.
~00:48:00 History of biblical scholarship.
~00:51:00 Was Last Supper Passover meal or not? Word Passover for the ancient Jews could be used in more than one way.
~00:55:00 Why Sola Scriptura is false?
~01:00:00 Why Catholic Bible is thicker than Prostestant?
~01:05:00 Bible crash course: read not chronologicaly but by timeline (12 periods).
~01:16:00 How much divine life you want? How to pray with Scripture?
That’s my Christian Moral Life professor! We missed class for you to have this interview... I hope you’re happy. What a g
I am grateful for your sacrifice...what a blessing to have Dr. Swafford as your teacher!! I am grateful that you have shared him with us!
Dr. Swafford is the man I love him so much. He and I just chill during his office hours and talk scripture. The guy is like my long lost brother
will have to view and listen to this again... there's sooooooo much here! I hope you can get Dr. Brant Pitre soon hehe
Wow! I felt like I was drinking from a fire hydrant. This interview has been an overview of things I am currently curiously learning as a Protestant. I love how Andrew is so excited that every word just flys out of his mouth. It was a lot to take in. Thanks for your work Matt.
I had Dr Merrick for a Scripture class two my freshman year (less than a year after his conversion, if I remember correctly), and it was AMAZING
I bought the Great Adventure Bible when it first came out last Sept! I am loving it! Thank you Ascension Press! God bless you guys for all that you do.
Congratulations on #200!
Loved this talk! He is so inspiring!
One of my favorite guests so far! I wish I could take a class from him. And he mentions so many fascinating things I have never heard about especially regarding the mosaic law and exodus. It turns what seems to be incredibly dry material into some of the most fascinating stuff in the entirety of scripture.
I love Matt's sweater.
Holy cow. This guy talks super fast.
It was an hour long interview with 2 hours of content, Haha.
May Key try having class with him... your hand begins to fall off trying to capture the wisdom hahha
@@sebastianfuentes63 Haha, that is crazy. I normally listen at 2x speed, but went half way through before I realized it was still on normal. haha
5:37 me too (at the University of Dallas). We have to reclaim our Catholic schools. I'm waiting for a bishop to take this on. I will MOVE to his diocese!
This is really good -- Thanks Matt!
I'm currently going through Fr. Schmitz's 'Bible in a Year' podcast (which uses the Great Adventure Bible) and Dr. Swafford's commentary here adds even more depth. God willing, my family and I will get to visit the Holy Land this summer and actually go to some of these sacred places.
Great show Matt, Br. Kevin mc
Absolutely LOVED this!
Really wish he could have explored more deeply, how the post-Baal Mosaic covenant is less analogous to the New Covenant, than was the pre-Baal Mosaic covenant or the Davidic or Abraham covenant. That makes a lot of sense and I think really helps make sense of Gal3 and a lot of other stuff in Paul (Rom2 and 3; all of 2Cor; etc) Also the sacrifice of sin-offering and guilt-offering of being different and not the only sacrifices (peace, thank, etc)
I also LOVE that he smacked down the whole "SeConD TeMpLE jUdAism was reductively eArthly and PoLiTiCaL!" thing that's in ever Jesus-movie. And LOVE that he smacked down the whole notion that the "Palestinian Jewish canon" was consistent and was the same as the Protestant OT canon.
Reading the Bible can be very daunting, especially with a job and kids. I think to get into the Bible, you need real quiet time, even if it's only 10 to 15 min. a week.
One thing that really helped motivate me, was what a priest said to me: you can't really be a family if you don't have a common history. Only rules will not a family make, you need a personal link and commonality. So, in order to fully be part of the Catholic family, you have to understand the history (so as to have a "shared past and memories"), and this starts with the Bible.
Understanding the overall narrative and how the books connect is key. Protestants have done a great job at this, and we Catholics have been behind, but people like Hahn or Cavins are great ressources. I'm also a huge fan of Pitre, though I'd start out with a "smaller book" (like Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist). Thanks to them, I've found the experience of reading the Bible so much more exciting and extremely rich.
Finally, imagination. When reading a passage, I like to stop and really think about what I've read. Where are the people? What does the landscape look like? How is the weather? What is the historical context in the passage and worldwide? What kind of food are they eating? Thinking about banal things like those, have strangely made the reading less dry and more engaging.
One last thing that worked for me, was starting out slow, really slow. I started out with the Magnificat and just the Sunday readings and meditate on that throughout the week. Then, daily readings, and grew from there.
Hope everyone is doing ok in these strange times and God bless.
Loved this interview... Had to rewind a few times because Andrew talked super fast! Haha.
It's great to see many Roman Catholics getting back into the Scriptures since Vatican II. That's definitely at least one positive point of the council. Many people forget that before Luther's German translation of the Bible, there were as many as 17 translations into German or a German dialect. (Although they were translations of a translation and not into common everyday German like Luther's Bible)
Wycliffe's translation was authorized by clerical authorities at the time as well. Unfortunately, due to the Reformation and counter reformation, translations in the vernacular were forbidden. There was a time when it was a crime here in France to sing the Psalms in French. All the way into the 1950s, Bible reading (outside of the missals) was highly discouraged. For example, the Jesuit priest Pierre Gibert recounted an incident in a Catholic high school in 1952 where it was required that all books, aside from the textbooks and the missals were to be presented to the school director for written approval. He was offered a Catholic Bible at that time (Cardinal Liénard) and felt he might look silly asking for approval. But when he did he was told in no uncertain terms to put "that book" deep in his drawer and keep it there till he returned to his parents. There are many similar stories, although obviously there was no official ban at the time.
In that sense, Vatican II is a welcome development.
While it is admirable to try to find a nugget of gold in a pile of feces, you still end up in a shitty situation regardless.
The douay-rheims bible was around 300+ years before Vatican II.
@@gerardomartinez6226 Indeed it was. That didn't stop reading the Bible from being highly discouraged in conservative Catholic circles up into the mid 20th Century, and for a time in France (1685 until 1787) both owning a French Bible and singing the Psalms in French was forbidden, because the Huguenots were forbidden.
@@christophekeating21 I think it had more to do with the illegal translations Protestants were using. They're not the same bibles we Catholics use. I could be wrong.
@@gerardomartinez6226 you're right, but the thing is, because of the context of the religious wars, it basically meant everyone with a Bible in French was suspected of being a Protestant. Again, Wycliffe's translation (from the Latin Vulgate) was authorized by the religious authorities, then banned. Desiderius Erasmus remained a Catholic his whole life, but his writings were later considered heretical, and so on. Of course I have a biased perspective being a Protestant myself, but André Gibert who relates the story is a Jesuit priest.
And the Bible du Cardinal Liénard is most definitely a Catholic Bible.
I was about to watch it live, but then I had to go to online school :(
I've read through the Great Adventure Bible 3 times since I bought it - my only complaint is the wafer-thin pages.
Hey Matt Fradd, what are your thoughts on Fr.Groeschel's work?
Play at .75 speed!
I second how he keeps refering to Dr. Pitre. You'll probably need a week or month of interviews with him. In his books he mentions objections I've not heard of before and then demonstrates the Catholic view so well.
You mean Dr. Pitre, I think.
@@chayanroychoudhury3091 haha thanks! I fixed it. I guess my brain combined "Brant" and "Pitre" while I was typing 🤦♂️
Hey Matt, when trying to get into reading the Bible take into consideration that Jesus used the scriptures as a weapon of warfare against Satan when he was tempted in the desert. He repeatedly responds “it is written” to the attacks of the devil. Ephesians 6:11-12 says “Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realm” One of those weapons is the word of God which is the sword of the Spirit. Love the show!
This was good. I largely agreed.
However, it seemed narrow. Pretty much all Western Christianity. Very limited reference to Church Fathers. I know, I know, this show tips its hat to Aquinas. I get it. But, man...it’s like Eastern Christianity doesn’t exist. I wonder what the guest thinks Fathers like Maximus the Confessor or Gregory of Nyssa have to say related to the themes he outlined. There was some guarded charity given to Protestants, but, again, that “tradition” is just another side of the same coin.
As a Convert, and prior to my conversion, I've never had an issue with the Authority of the Catholic Church. I have an issue with abusive corrupt Authority in the Catholic Church and the cowardly Bishops who water-down the faith to appease the wolves who masquerade in Sheeps Clothing. We are in serious need of JESUS cleansing the temple area with his belt whipping these clowns out of his Father's House!
Good stuff.........but what a fast talker .... slow down a little please. I can't decipher the words as fast as they're spoken. I didn't take 'speed hearing.' ;)
I'll be honest about FOCUS....The people whom I've met who were in it who seem normal seem to regret it, and the people who were in it and seem like the Christians that everyone loves to hate, don't regret it. There is something very wrong with it, although I can't quite put my finger on it.
@Clay McDermott
Genuine question: I’m curious, what are the particular traits or behaviors from Christians that everybody loves to hate? I know you said you can’t put you finger on it, but any perspective at all that leads you to think that something is very wrong with FOCUS?
I'm sorry Matt, but my wife and I were watching this and within the first few minutes you "swear to God"?? What was that about, mate?
@MJ Arcilla One would hope.
Good content but he seems to have very pressured speech so hard to listen
Coffees are hot boys
Try not to bang on the table, ya drongo.
I thought you had Coronavirus last week and were scared out of your mind? You look 100% now. ???
Stephen Kennedy
I think this was recorded way before.
Jude Solis OK, makes sense. I hope he is recovering well.
wait, didn’t you have the covid19?
This was filmed last month before all the craziness. :) And we haven't got our test results back yet.
Very poor arguments with swearing.
1) The fundamental principle of morality, as you know, is that one may never do evil that good may come. If it's not good, it doesn't matter what it accomplishes. That's about 70% of what you guys argued. 2) I've heard exorcists talk about how vulgar language is an invitation to demons. Small crack in the door, but a door nonetheless. 3) Vulgarity is plainly unbecoming of the dignity of humans, especially those cleansed by baptism and on the pilgrimage to heaven. 4) There are clear scriptural injunctions that there be *no* unclean speech among you and to discipline and master the tongue. 5) The culture is increasingly crass, and we cannot be contributing to it. The crassness and vulgarity is constantly aiding our rapid moral decay. 6) It's rarely a good sign when a Christian starts to feel comfortable engaging publicly in swearing, particularly on social media. *So woke!* 7) We should want to not just avoid sinning when we speak but actually honour Him through our words. Swearing as an option quickly dissipates when seen through that lens.
This all said, most people will still swear (me included), but as an inadvertent sin, not a justified one. I repent immediately, almost completely avoid swearing when anyone else would hear, especially the young & innocent, and then I confess it. I can tell when I haven't been to confession in a while because the habit comes back. It is obviously not the worst of sins, and there are people I love with a bad habit of swearing who are in many ways better people than me.
But we need to better in at least our principles, and the fact that this discussion also destroys basic Christian principles of morality is disturbing. Call me a prude, but these seemingly little sins have a much bigger effect than we'd like. It matters. Clean up your mouths, Christians.
Come on MATT...no Catholic anywhere should use the phrase "I swear to G.." what the heck? That's using the Lord's name in vain.. confession time!
Imagine a world where you could worry about your own sins and not pietysignal on the internet.....
I think he's not using it blasphemously.
@@matthewantero5960 not possible
@@shayneswenson I guess you don't realize as Christians we are not about just being agreeable, nor accepting of mortal sin, but to call each other out because of our love for each other...
@The one whom Jesus loves All I'm saying is... it might as well be slip of the tongue