Everything Great About Miitopia

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  • Finally, time to say everything great about Miitopia, or I think is everything. After sinning the 3DS version, the Casting Call, the demo and the Switch version, I felt this was a long time coming. I really hope you enjoy the video and consider subscribing, because it helps out a ton and gets us closer on the path to 2000 subscribers.
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  • @noahthompson7987
    @noahthompson7987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    One thing I think you would appreciate, the Darker Lord's theme is a combination between the Dark Lord's theme and the Great Sage's theme. Not only is that a cool and creepy detail, but it sounds AWESOME and extremely unsettling

    • @PoetsFallenLand
      @PoetsFallenLand ปีที่แล้ว

      Very cool 👍

    • @luennii
      @luennii ปีที่แล้ว +1

      just finished the darker lord and my adrenaline was going crazy!

    • @Sayoriismyfavdoki899
      @Sayoriismyfavdoki899 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They knocked it out of the park with the theme

    • @humbleebumblee
      @humbleebumblee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've always loved this detail

  • @turretboi
    @turretboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    I like how the boss with the sword and shield in neksdor has only the mii on the shield being the mii on the swords father. Even when they're both monsters, the shady merchant father wants to protect his daughter. Wholesome.
    And on the flipside, choosing to destroy the dark curse ends with said curse's final words being "thank you"

    • @Chara_Dreemurr1
      @Chara_Dreemurr1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait so... the curse wants to be killed?

    • @turretboi
      @turretboi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Chara_Dreemurr1 yes and no. The curse did not actively seek death, but is in a situation where having it's life ended would be an act of mercy. Not unlike a deathly sick pet that needed to be put down.

    • @Chara_Dreemurr1
      @Chara_Dreemurr1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@turretboi okay I understand.

  • @ericwijaya2119
    @ericwijaya2119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    An extra win is how... different the title screen music is in Otherworld when compared to the title screen of the rest of the game's areas.
    A lot of the title screen themes sound pretty jolly (or in the case of the Dark Lord's Castle and New Lumos, pretty rad) but in Otherworld, that shit's gone. You are left with a cacophony of slowed down Mii noises, as if they're begging, screaming for help from the Darker Lord's grasp.
    It's honestly one of Nintendo's creepier pieces tbh. Move aside, River Twygz Bed, Otherworld's aiming for your throne of creepiest Nintendo music.

  • @raymond_dont_cry3451
    @raymond_dont_cry3451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I hate it when people choose personalities for their miis only based on which quirks make the game easier, that sucks a lot of the fun out of the game

    • @n1jigen
      @n1jigen ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I tried it when I started the game and I was just like “man this is boring” and switched the personalities back

    • @TheRealAmadeusMozart
      @TheRealAmadeusMozart ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Absolutely
      I make miis based off characters from different games I liked, so I chose their personalities closest to what the actual character's personality is
      I dont care if it doesn't benefit me, it's so fun to have the personality quirks clash with one another, especially when two of my most active healer miis (a Cleric and a Chef) have the laid-back personality, so they get hated on half of the time lmao

    • @y.9645
      @y.9645 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Stubborn mii's not accepting heal is frustrating but also funny and I refuse to change that.

    • @imarandomgamer2
      @imarandomgamer2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, most of the miis I put into my game were OCs, for the party members I tried to choose the personality quirk closest to whatever the OC's personality is like. It feels better and the small handful of inconsistencies only make it funnier.

    • @untrollquifaitdesblaguessa2584
      @untrollquifaitdesblaguessa2584 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't care chef and kind don't go together, THE GREAT PAPYRUS IS KIND AND WILL STAY KIND!

  • @SpookyStars0
    @SpookyStars0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    A bit of an extra win for me is that different mii's have different voices depending on their personality. And for the menu whatever personality the hero mii has, that voice is singing on the menu.
    Anyways good job on the video!

    • @Dragon81205
      @Dragon81205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I didn’t notice that.

    • @_stardustcolors
      @_stardustcolors ปีที่แล้ว +8

      voices also slightly differ based on gender too! female miis have slightly higher pitched voices than male miis :)

    • @amiitopiafan
      @amiitopiafan ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And all the key characters have a slight difference in all their voice (youngest fab fairy has very high pitched voice, great sage has a medium-low pitched voice, dark lord has a low pitched voice, etc)

  • @tnaplayzandfriendsasvines
    @tnaplayzandfriendsasvines 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    A sin you should've covered on your Everything Wrong With Miitopia video:
    It's all fun and games until when you try to reenact one of the dance move in the Fab Fairies Dance, you hit your hand on a fireplace.
    *Note: That happened to me twice.*

  • @mediocreviddygameplayer
    @mediocreviddygameplayer ปีที่แล้ว +17

    9:04
    Honestly, this made me think about something really cool. What if, if Miitopia 2 happened, more monsters had mechanics that are clearly the same as personality quirks? Such as Energetic Imps, who could do a charge attack, or Airheaded Goblins that fall asleep during battle, or even Laid-Back Clouds that can do more or less damage than normal? It's just so fascinating to me.

  • @adriangorski5446
    @adriangorski5446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    i just love when i choose the save him option after hearing his backstory. and changing nothing of his face

    • @linghero4608
      @linghero4608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The real dark lord

    • @MirrorHall_Clay
      @MirrorHall_Clay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It makes perfect sense in story too. Literally the default; the most generic face a Mii can have

  • @ChaosPancakes
    @ChaosPancakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Speaking of Miitopia, I decided to do a recent playthrough with Sayori as the main character. Oh boy was it fun.

    • @turretboi
      @turretboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Get out of mii head

    • @ChaosPancakes
      @ChaosPancakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@turretboi pfft

    • @SilverAceOfSpades
      @SilverAceOfSpades ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I used Hatsune Miku as my main character lol

    • @HorseEater
      @HorseEater ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SilverAceOfSpades Hatsune miiku

    • @joannetrueman6838
      @joannetrueman6838 ปีที่แล้ว

      i used Yuri As the Main Character

  • @blockeontheleafeon
    @blockeontheleafeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    So glad I found this on my Birthday while attempting a Nuzlocke. Miitopia really is a special game that can be replayed endlessly and different results can happen each time. ^^

  • @pokewatcher20
    @pokewatcher20 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Man, I could write an entire essay on the character of the Great Sage. There are so many moments that let you understand who they are as a person. When the Ex Dark Lord is talking to you in the skyscraper, they mention that they were aware of what the Dark Curse was doing when possessing their body but was powerless to stop it. Combine that with the knowledge you gain in Karkaton that the Great Sage is a kind person who's helped many people, and you get some very interesting implied internal conflict. If only the game touched on this more...
    This isn't even going over the eye symbolism leading up to the fight with the Dark Lord. And the music associated with the Great Sage is very good as well! Their main theme is my favorite track in the entire game. As another comment mentioned, the Darker Lord's theme incorporates the Great Sage's theme.
    The cutscene you mentioned in your video at around 17:15 is particularly sad. Despite having played the game on the 3DS and knowing what was coming, in that moment I still answered "no", because it was a character that I genuinely cared about. What adds to this is the slow, sad remix of the first half of the Great Sage's theme. It really drives it home that you'll have to go up against someone that you've cared about, making the eventual Darkest Lord fight a bit harder. The only other place that this theme plays is at the end, right before the Great Sage explains the origin of the Dark Curse.
    Speaking of the Darkest Lord, every part of that theme is incredible. The very beginning of the fight plays a drawn-out version of the intro to the Great Sage's theme. Later in the battle, we hear the theme again, but with a different tone to it. This time, it sounds almost desperate, like the Great Sage is trying to regain control but ultimately failing, as the next part of the music is a section of the Dark Lord's theme, the part of the song that most people like the best.
    Ultimately, the Great Sage is a very underappreciated character with so much hidden potential. No matter what I cast them as, they're always my favorite, and it annoys me when people don't take the story seriously. It might just be a kid's game, yeah, but if you just cast the Great Sage as Obama or something then it's not really gonna have the same emotional impact. Or maybe I'm just over-analyzing a silly little Mii character. This video is very well put together, and I can't believe I haven't seen it sooner.

  • @TheOneAndOnlyClodsire
    @TheOneAndOnlyClodsire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sayori saying hang in there gives me flashbacks.

  • @MattSayYay
    @MattSayYay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    12:28 - That ding was perfectly placed

  • @teamawesomeness7137
    @teamawesomeness7137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    it is technically possible to get vampire during the main story, but unlike the main 12 jobs, it's not guaranteed

  • @teamawesomeness7137
    @teamawesomeness7137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    14:12 the effect of hyper sprinkles can also be induced by the imp's charm or an excite-type monster's excite guitar

  • @VIPTaptap
    @VIPTaptap ปีที่แล้ว +3

    21:45 actually theres only 1 post game job, the elf since you get the vampire quest where you unlock vampire before post game, along with some other quests. (in the travelers hub)

  • @pandadan8870
    @pandadan8870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    fun fact, you can get the vampire role before you collect those gems to unlock the skyscraper, though it is harder

  • @seshat73
    @seshat73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    10:04 I think it’s funny every time I see the quizmaster I do that

  • @The_Official_You
    @The_Official_You 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I absolutely love the world building and character development that happens throughout the game, miitopia is definitely one of my most favourite games ever

  • @teamawesomeness7137
    @teamawesomeness7137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    13:22 in the US version, it's called horse-whispering

    • @satomi-chan21
      @satomi-chan21 ปีที่แล้ว

      So in the spanish version it’s called “A caballo” which means “By horse”

  • @kingcrysanthos
    @kingcrysanthos ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with basically every point you made! I love this game and play it nearly every day (lol)
    Also, I noticed we picked the same jobs for our main miis... Warrior, Mage, Tank, and then back to Warrior for the final boss. Thought that was funny
    Great video!!

  • @skyender8353
    @skyender8353 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    By far one of the games I was glad to actually get because I wanted it on my 3ds when I was younger. (R.i.p 3DS, 11/12 years old or more and has completely died) Favorite song is from the work out/training event in the in. It's just hyper and so it makes me hyper XD overall, it's a great game, I just wish some enemies like the twerky and running nose didn't exist (they seem cursed)

  • @blazi64
    @blazi64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't usually like RPG games but I'm really glad I gave this one a try.

  • @NeilShavit
    @NeilShavit ปีที่แล้ว +2

    21:50 Technically you can unlock the vampire before the postgame but i understand associating it with the postgame

  • @zackaryevans138
    @zackaryevans138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You’re not the only one who likes the “bomb chain reaction”

  • @Me41687
    @Me41687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really need to play this game

  • @TotherKoala
    @TotherKoala 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love how nintendo dropped the best mii customiser in existence then proceeded to limit it to a port of a 3ds game with nearly no new story or anything then proceeded to try to replace them with xbox avatars. Truly the nintendo moment of all time

  • @Channelrebootinprogess
    @Channelrebootinprogess ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quick heads up at 19:40 the Imps from the dark Lord battle also cover, I’ve seen it a couple of times.

  • @birodactyl_of_the_web
    @birodactyl_of_the_web 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This game is one of my favourite games ever. Loved seeing this analysis!

  • @beaufuller8222
    @beaufuller8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I loved this so much! Every single video you make about sinning or now winning too is amazing! Even some of the comments on the reading comments videos were great! Maybe you could go back and make wins on the casting call too

    • @beaufuller8222
      @beaufuller8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also you should’ve added another win for the last hero on the dragon. It’s hilarious how they get to scared on the tail the whole time, I think even near the even of story dialogue you still see them terrified. That element was amazing for me when I played on the 3DS (haven’t got the switch version)

  • @EpicckSpareGirl
    @EpicckSpareGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    bro the chara face of the fab fairys

  • @rhyderwu4897
    @rhyderwu4897 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When there’s an interaction, a mii might see it and have resentment. This is an extra win for sure!

  • @y.9645
    @y.9645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another thing about the menu screen is that depending on your team mii's personality those will be signing in the title theme ^^

  • @DespairDoctor
    @DespairDoctor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peculia is my favorite world space, the main area. It just looks like a place I would want to live.

  • @donovanhadley2209
    @donovanhadley2209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peter: Hehe, Louis I'm in Miitopia

  • @MattSayYay
    @MattSayYay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:04 - You're not the only one who finds that funny

  • @_Aster___
    @_Aster___ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The game have one of the best OST I have ever heared !

  • @aureliamastergoomba1278
    @aureliamastergoomba1278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:22
    I fought the painting boss (the one with the Mona Lisa) and two of my characters had a massive quarrel happening just before it, and uh, they fought each other during it, and it ended up killing the boss!

  • @teamawesomeness7137
    @teamawesomeness7137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:37 in the US version, the line is you dunnit

  • @kaotic763
    @kaotic763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    WOOOO This is a certified KACHOW moment

  • @nootnootboopssnoots9707
    @nootnootboopssnoots9707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:06 I'd add an additional win for the hilarious face you've featured in your save.

  • @Eaten_squid_cake
    @Eaten_squid_cake 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Extra win: Neksdor’s name is a pun

  • @joshuajames1246
    @joshuajames1246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The great things are apparent but some points the bad outweighs the good!

  • @FrostyTheNightmare
    @FrostyTheNightmare 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:16
    As someone who is a fan of Doki Doki Literature Club this may have turned me into a snickers bar monster

  • @oom-7845
    @oom-7845 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it's a good sign when a sins video is shorter than a wins video

  • @MattSayYay
    @MattSayYay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought that energetic idle animation was exclusive to the Princess class for some reason. You can guess why.

  • @Daniel_Nir
    @Daniel_Nir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am happy to know that I am not the only one that loves to speed up the quizmaster’s running animation 😂

  • @Fliptastic
    @Fliptastic ปีที่แล้ว

    What's interesting is that if you're in the middle of a level with echo effects, if you browse the journal, the journal will also have echo effects in the sound effects! Either this is a coding thing, or attention to detail

  • @beaufuller8222
    @beaufuller8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can we get a miitopia 2? Cmon this game was iconic I adore it! Plus if we do get miitopia 2, can we get

    • @beaufuller8222
      @beaufuller8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another everything wrong with* idk why it didn’t come up

  • @darknesstheemowolf
    @darknesstheemowolf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the mii makeup feature sould be the default mii making screen. like i dont want the most bland mii i need it to be creative and not like every other mii or limited to the hair that act like their literally stone and dont move at all

  • @LunaticRhythms
    @LunaticRhythms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    dark lord memes? more like dank lord memes

  • @lucastelfair7946
    @lucastelfair7946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Must. Have… MIITOPIA!

  • @macroshamyham4429
    @macroshamyham4429 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best features in this game is the sound design my favorite songs are the celebration music after winning the surprise games and the Masion stage theme from 3Ds👌🏾

  • @benjamincooper358
    @benjamincooper358 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently, I spent seven months on a nightmare run of the game. Seven months and I’ve only just beaten the Pharaoh. If it was any other game, I probably would have quit. But in Miitopia, I prevailed. Such a good game.

  • @PoetsFallenLand
    @PoetsFallenLand ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For win counter #31 aka the one where you make the quiz master run in place really fast i agree it is really funny

  • @aureliamastergoomba1278
    @aureliamastergoomba1278 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:44
    Then I played the Demo…and uh, my Laid Back Warrior got the Air Headed thief mad from cadging on HP Bananas and made him angry because he likes the Cautious Fermale Pop Star

  • @aceash5.065
    @aceash5.065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:06: Hello, failboat.,.

  • @untrollquifaitdesblaguessa2584
    @untrollquifaitdesblaguessa2584 ปีที่แล้ว

    everything great about the mii chosen: Sayori is here, and she's the great sage +100
    yeah that's a reason for me.

  • @teamawesomeness7137
    @teamawesomeness7137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    14:52 or "her adventure" with a female protagonist

  • @aureliamastergoomba1278
    @aureliamastergoomba1278 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:10
    Funny is an understatement dude

  • @KiwiMeowo
    @KiwiMeowo ปีที่แล้ว

    10:05 i always love speeding up this part, and then call my sister just to laugh at this scene together

  • @IsabruhMoment
    @IsabruhMoment ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know how to feel about the implications of Sayori being the Great Sage

  • @thomasskinner4113
    @thomasskinner4113 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:10. We know he is not alone

  • @buprerevengeance
    @buprerevengeance 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "You're shorter than I expected" - Anakin Skywalker

  • @within_the_ice6626
    @within_the_ice6626 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot how the darkest lord makes every mini expression as he dies as he desperately trying to make a new face

  • @sergianimations6262
    @sergianimations6262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also I love a lot the new lumos battle music

  • @PokioAndZero
    @PokioAndZero ปีที่แล้ว

    The vampire job I got before the final battle

  • @lunacandy7972
    @lunacandy7972 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the dream sequences that occasionally happens is pretty funny as well.

    • @lunacandy7972
      @lunacandy7972 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially the giant tomato and giant Mii.

  • @donovanhadley2209
    @donovanhadley2209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite is the twerky because of people reactions to it

  • @No-ei3ms
    @No-ei3ms หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love intro music the tech area

  • @stupididoitfromidkman
    @stupididoitfromidkman ปีที่แล้ว

    10:04 no you're not alone

  • @fnaf6491
    @fnaf6491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:08
    I do it all the time

  • @Raldi_Crack
    @Raldi_Crack ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite thing in miitopia is the dark sun.

  • @lordenma4449
    @lordenma4449 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel the great sage theme with ya

  • @xxavaxx3151
    @xxavaxx3151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video should have just been your entire play through

  • @SirenPandaSabo
    @SirenPandaSabo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:03 Same really, I call it payback >:)

  • @Cwoissa
    @Cwoissa ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve went to the themes page and just listened to it

  • @Ranyesn
    @Ranyesn ปีที่แล้ว

    The people singing the title screen are the ones in your inn btw

  • @jackdexter5163
    @jackdexter5163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes It's Out!

  • @Jordy855
    @Jordy855 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Uhh I mean she is the light of my life"
    "Did i say that? That was embarrassing. I meant she is the light of the party!"
    Smooth talker.

  • @user-jq3yb8xr6y
    @user-jq3yb8xr6y 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:04 No, you're not. I always do it because its absolutely hillarious 🤣🤣

  • @shib9780
    @shib9780 ปีที่แล้ว

    is horseplay and horse wispering different attacks or is it the same attack nut with different names depending on the version

  • @madelinearchie9424
    @madelinearchie9424 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10:10 no you are not I find it so funny

  • @manqoman
    @manqoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes good job

  • @nevzatduzgun9684
    @nevzatduzgun9684 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did u edit characters out of your party?

  • @treenaowen3466
    @treenaowen3466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your miis are so COOL.

  • @Willow-Bergstrom
    @Willow-Bergstrom ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this could be a actual mod just to make sure if people wanna Suffer they get this mod

  • @TheFuturistic_
    @TheFuturistic_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm I got my first quarrel right before the realm of the Fey
    Guess it’s always a random reaction

    • @satomi-chan21
      @satomi-chan21 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first quarrel was in greenhorne with my alt

  • @vetortheplaguewerewolf
    @vetortheplaguewerewolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:05 I do the same thing LOL

  • @multifandomiguess
    @multifandomiguess 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love miitopia

  • @chaseyboi9918
    @chaseyboi9918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where I am from horse play is called horse wispering

    • @chaseyboi9918
      @chaseyboi9918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And when a new job is using horse whispering it says, "Horse whispering (job)"

    • @benjaminkelleher
      @benjaminkelleher วันที่ผ่านมา

      us

  • @osamabinladen4299
    @osamabinladen4299 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the fact that God is named horst in the german Version XD

  • @kraxicorde1301
    @kraxicorde1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just asking dude: why are most of your miis anime characters?

  • @NeilShavit
    @NeilShavit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The title is misleading. EVERYTHING is great about Miitopia (well except for the tank, i regret picking it to be my job for the Realm of the fey world)!

  • @charliereiscott4608
    @charliereiscott4608 ปีที่แล้ว

    People call me the weird kid at school but jokes on them I AM i ship random game characters if their age is unknown

  • @Brownyan
    @Brownyan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:01 My answer was because of who I chose. Jibanyan. And Jibanyan is lazy,

  • @therobloxgamesdanielfuntim8024
    @therobloxgamesdanielfuntim8024 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to subscribe. He told me to. Lol anyway I subbed because I wanted to not because I was forced to.

  • @lexishereonyt
    @lexishereonyt ปีที่แล้ว

    MONIKAA
    Im Both a demon slayer and ddlc fan.

  • @16sexybebe
    @16sexybebe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😮

  • @mariekhaos3505
    @mariekhaos3505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:20 or you are someone like me who like the macho set