I've been playing this mod for a year. It's pretty imbalanced, but still fun. Genetron is the best overall, Xayid has best late game, and Keiron is protoss 2.0
@@mechwarreir2 This is a bit of a hot take when compared to the general consensus among the players who participated in the tournaments. Seems everyone agrees that Xayid is weakest in late-game. We didn't see enough Genetron in the tournament to make any real comparisons in Genetron vs Keiron late-game though. I'd be curious for you to more fully explain your perspective though.
@@solstice1290 I would agree with xayid having the strongest late game tbh. Though I would say it is one of the hardest compositions to transition to and requires significant knowledge on unit interactions in all the matchups, but at full potential controlled by a strong player (preferably GM+), Xayid imo is the strongest.
It was interesting to see. You can see some of it in lowko's twitch vod for last Saturday. I think because they're slower games with less activity they're hard to cast. But I liked seeing dark try to adapt, since he didn't really know how to play mod races at all. 😂
I would LOVE to see more casts of this mod. It looks really cool and seems to be balanced fairly well. Id love to see more of the custom races as well as the matchups between the custom races vs SC2 races. Like imagine Zerg vs Xayid, or Protoss vs Keiron. This is so cool Sidebar: The forcefield animation around the Citadel looks like it might be the asset used for the Psi Emitter from the HoTS campaign
Solstice did a really good job of making sure the OG races keep key unique benefits over the custom races. He didnt let new mechanics and abilities step on the toes of their OG counterparts.
Would be great if you familiarized yourself and introduced the races via a few more videos for sure Lowko! I've seen a number of games with custom races at this point but I still have almost no clue what the upgrades and counters are.
Yes please, I would love to see our favorite pro players in this custom race cup! The Keiron build animation really reminds me of the Aeon Illuminate from Supreme Commander - that race built their structures and units from pools of molten metal.
It looks amazing ! And it is funny, as someone who is part of the modelmaking community of sc2 for years, I can almost instantly tell from which pieces of units the custom models are made of :D
Lowko, seeing how fun these races seem to you i really recommend you checking out the All Races Coop arcade mod. Basically it's normal StarCraft co-op but: - (With Standard Co-op Commanders)There are 10 adittional playable factions, including all three Scion races + the winners of the Custom Races Contest. You casted one of them before: The Hybrids - There are 16 new Enemy Faction you can play against (or AS) including those mentioned above + T/P/Z Factions using all of the different unit types that the Commanders use - There are 32 new playable missions from the RTC 2017 Blizzard Contest (Some of them are clunky but there are some that actually work as amazing new Co-op Missions, I can list you the best working ones if you want) - You can play up to 3 players against Amon on all of the maps (I think, I'm sure of the orignal StarCraft maps tho :P) - You can play AS Amon using the chosen enemy faction against these 3 Commander players (From what I've seen the creators of the mod are even planning to add not only all of the Nexus Co-Op Mod commanders but the WarCraft 3 Races too xD) From the experience I can say that with right people this Mod can be so much fun, I wouldn't even recommend going on different discords during the game, just pick the Casual Difficulty for the longest objective timers and make up rules during the game. Have Fun :D
Keiron may be inspired from Aeon from Supreme Commander, they bare strong resemblance in how they build stuff and in appearance. Probably why they look so freaking cool! :P
Let’s hope Microsoft if they decide to make SC3… Make it so that story wise is set like 1000 or more years in to the future, where you won’t have many classic units or none at all, because we don’t need remastered SC2 with few new units, and or destroy story like Disney did with SW sequels 7,8,9( not talking about TV shows, way better than those Disney 💩 movies). Back to the point, gameplay similar to SC 1and2 but with some new mechanics, but still StarCraft.
1000 years in the future is a great suggestion. LotV tied off most of the character plots so cleanly that I've worried they didn't really leave themselves a place to take the plot for SC3. A big time jump would be a great way to take the game into a new story and style.
I think it's so cool to see new races, the way they play feels so unique and also it's fun to visualize how the Protoss have to adjust on the fly to defend against this new alien threat!
Super fun. I'm making an RTS game myself, using a little bit of the gameplay from SC2 - but something far less rigid and narrow in terms of tactical options players can use. I'm really enjoying the fresh gameplay that comes out of this mod. The unit designs are also really nice. I've messed around a bit in SC2 modding and I'm pretty sure none of what is done here is easy to do at all! Hard work in an old game engine. Well done to the creators and I hope they get more recognition.
If Keiron would be added as an actuall fraction in the SC2 univers i wouldn't be to suprised. It is really well rounded, hast super good distinguish designs and overall they look so nice. I remember from you casting it some years ago, there was a unit that could throw some sort of basketball at enemys that would make more damage the more far the enemy would be from the unit. I also love the hamster balls xD, they are invisible out of combat. That is such a coooool idea!!!!! Such a cool fraction. If it would be a playable race, this would be mine!!
It's the keiron siege unit, it's actually the opposite, since the attack needs to come back to the unit to be launched again it does less dps when far away but has 12 max range (siege tanks have 13) so they can be used to counter tanks paired with the unit that can heal shield
A great storyline for this wo uld be how the new races appear in SC 3, SC 4, SC 5 etc. with eventually GEnetron getting more and more ruthless like the Borg to the point where there is no option but to bring back the Overmind to save all.
Definitely some interesting mods, the battle did seem to go back and forth for quite a while, without one side clearly having the upper hand very soon into the game.
plus they are invisible until they attack and deal much more damage when uncloacking ! you can also upgrade them to immediately cloak after attacking but they take 15 damage on their life each attack. It doesn't seem so great but the damage output is insane. great unit for harass !
Im so happy that you mix in something diffrent from the normal casts, because i can watch them all day, but these are giving some kind of breather. I think this makes the channel even more interesting. I personaly think it would be a good thing to see 2 Videos a week not being a pro game. Viewer games are always so fun, but it seems like you don't like casting them anymore. Some more highlight stream videos from time to time would be nice too, even tho ther are some of them sometimes.
I love this so much! Every time I think I saw everything the races have to offer, they showcase something new. That's just so much fun. And it really seems very well balanced, too. Please make more videos of those! Maybe consider using some interface that allows for tooltips checking, if that's a thing.
If hero was unprepared, I'm not really interested. I feel like we wouldn't see him at his best. Dark games, though, sound fun! I like myself some turtle matches :D
I am in love with this mod a well made new race mode That doesn't feel overpowered and it looks like it came from a different game inspired by Command and conquer and gray goo 10/ 10 billion👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🥳🥳🥳🥳
I love how this mod brings out new unit compositions from the existing races. Stalker, phoenix, mothership is not a composition you see every day! I would love to see more casts from this mod. Maybe a video of you playing it as well
Yeah as someone who's trying to figure out new metas with old races against these new ones, it's super exciting to find something new which works well. I've found for protoss against keiron, one of the most efficient compositions you can make in the late game is colossi Tempest, sometimes with Disruptors. Furthermore, none of these races have ravagers or ghosts so all of a sudden sentry based compositions aren't such a poor idea even into the early late game.
the way the keiron build their structures reminds me of how the Aeon in supreme commander build where they create a pool of quicksilver metal that slowly forms into the building or unit
I think these game design ideas are very stormgate like, which is super cool. Like, structures that have other use than only giving supply, units that have clear strengths and weaknesses but high micro potential, etc
Keiron's unit mechanic is funky. All but upgrade structure produces charges over time, and the max of these charges are limited based on structures. You spend these charges along with resource from your Citadel (the main building where workers pop out) to warp in units within Citadel's range. Also the "cooldown" in your Citadel basically makes your units including your workers move faster. Really useful for repositioning in defense, but I personally found it to be better as a resource ability since your workers also move around faster while gathering Oh and yes, their structures that enable flying units are all.also fluing buildings. You dont always need to make them in dead space, but it saves on real estate in your main and helps with crowding, sonce Keiron mains tend to be overflowing with structures that all independently produce charges
That mod looks AWESOME ! The first game did not looked very balanced, but it might be just me being used to the good old basic units. The Rest of series was surprisingly very fast-paced and action packed; just what I would expect from a good gameplay. Like the majority here - I'd love to see more casts of those ;)
Crazy that a modder managed to balance his custom races against each other as well as against the normal races!! Just wish all of them were viable both early, mid and late game
Man even just a 4th race would be awesome. Blizz should have these guys just focus on one of these races and get it perfect to introduce into the game somehow. Certainly would breath new life into the game! Or all of them haha they all def have really cool ideas
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This was a lovely change. Please cast more of these if you have the time! Thanks so much Lowko!
Hey I recognize the Scion Custom Races! I specialize casting this mod - it's so cool to see you cast the tournament!!
i have watching you casting it but i did not subscribe to you yet.
I discovered this mod via your channel ! shout out to you sir o/
Go on do it tho ! one click is nothing :p @@loks117
@@HoRdEs95 yo man I recognize you! Appreciate the shout out 🙌 o7
Hello!
Would love more casts of these! Balance doesn't seem terrible
I've been playing this mod for a year. It's pretty imbalanced, but still fun. Genetron is the best overall, Xayid has best late game, and Keiron is protoss 2.0
@@mechwarreir2 So its just Starcraft 2?
@@mechwarreir2 This is a bit of a hot take when compared to the general consensus among the players who participated in the tournaments. Seems everyone agrees that Xayid is weakest in late-game. We didn't see enough Genetron in the tournament to make any real comparisons in Genetron vs Keiron late-game though. I'd be curious for you to more fully explain your perspective though.
@@solstice1290 I would agree with xayid having the strongest late game tbh. Though I would say it is one of the hardest compositions to transition to and requires significant knowledge on unit interactions in all the matchups, but at full potential controlled by a strong player (preferably GM+), Xayid imo is the strongest.
You must be half blind. Looks very imbalanced to me
A real breath of fresh air, wonderful cast
*fresh of Breath air*
*air fresh breath of*
@@You-ul8qw *air of fresh breath*
of fresh air breath !!
Bring in the casts with Dark and Hero. I want to see Dark's dirty play when dealing with custom races.
It was interesting to see. You can see some of it in lowko's twitch vod for last Saturday.
I think because they're slower games with less activity they're hard to cast. But I liked seeing dark try to adapt, since he didn't really know how to play mod races at all. 😂
Hero didn't play much, he forfeited after his first series.
There were better games to cast than Dark and Hero, like Gerald actually adapted extremely well compared to the other two.
Haven't played starcraft in ages, but lowko keeps me in the loop 😅
And in an other dimension, Kolow is casting a mod for Spacecraft II with Terran, Protoss and Zerg.
It's actually Highko.
@@Vollmond720 Highok
@@Vollmond720 true xd
@@You-ul8qw Highrevive
Yes! Finally returning to casting the Scion races after a while! Love your casts!
18:45 Yes please!
It looks fun, I'd be very interested in more, especially one that has the third new faction in it.
From a former sc2 player that sticks to watching nowadays, please give us more of this mod, this is great!
I would LOVE to see more casts of this mod. It looks really cool and seems to be balanced fairly well. Id love to see more of the custom races as well as the matchups between the custom races vs SC2 races. Like imagine Zerg vs Xayid, or Protoss vs Keiron. This is so cool
Sidebar: The forcefield animation around the Citadel looks like it might be the asset used for the Psi Emitter from the HoTS campaign
Solstice did a really good job of making sure the OG races keep key unique benefits over the custom races. He didnt let new mechanics and abilities step on the toes of their OG counterparts.
Would be great if you familiarized yourself and introduced the races via a few more videos for sure Lowko! I've seen a number of games with custom races at this point but I still have almost no clue what the upgrades and counters are.
Yes please, I would love to see our favorite pro players in this custom race cup!
The Keiron build animation really reminds me of the Aeon Illuminate from Supreme Commander - that race built their structures and units from pools of molten metal.
if you like Supreme Commander, you'll prefer Genetron.
@@mechwarreir2 Why, do they have Monkeylords?
You should cast more games with this mod, I definetly want to see more
It looks amazing ! And it is funny, as someone who is part of the modelmaking community of sc2 for years, I can almost instantly tell from which pieces of units the custom models are made of :D
I'd like to see more of this custom games ! thanks lowko
This was pretty dope. I wanna see Terran vs one of these races!!!
All vanilla races are weaker compared to Scion races. Genetron can play just like Terran while having a zerg-like economy.
This is actually quite interesting, I would like to see more casts of this
Lowko, seeing how fun these races seem to you i really recommend you checking out the All Races Coop arcade mod. Basically it's normal StarCraft co-op but:
- (With Standard Co-op Commanders)There are 10 adittional playable factions, including all three Scion races + the winners of the Custom Races Contest. You casted one of them before: The Hybrids
- There are 16 new Enemy Faction you can play against (or AS) including those mentioned above + T/P/Z Factions using all of the different unit types that the Commanders use
- There are 32 new playable missions from the RTC 2017 Blizzard Contest (Some of them are clunky but there are some that actually work as amazing new Co-op Missions, I can list you the best working ones if you want)
- You can play up to 3 players against Amon on all of the maps (I think, I'm sure of the orignal StarCraft maps tho :P)
- You can play AS Amon using the chosen enemy faction against these 3 Commander players
(From what I've seen the creators of the mod are even planning to add not only all of the Nexus Co-Op Mod commanders but the WarCraft 3 Races too xD)
From the experience I can say that with right people this Mod can be so much fun, I wouldn't even recommend going on different discords during the game, just pick the Casual Difficulty for the longest objective timers and make up rules during the game. Have Fun :D
Keiron may be inspired from Aeon from Supreme Commander, they bare strong resemblance in how they build stuff and in appearance. Probably why they look so freaking cool! :P
Hello Mr. Lowko, really nice cast! Would love to see more of this in the future
Blizzard should just buy the mod and put it in the Next patch
after DOTA, I wouldn't put it past them.
The Keiron reminds me a lot of Supreme Commander (Aeon build from grey pools, Cybran bipedal light assault bots, etc)
Love the cast, so glad you enjoyed it!
Hi You
@@gfg1651 Hey
Let’s hope Microsoft if they decide to make SC3… Make it so that story wise is set like 1000 or more years in to the future, where you won’t have many classic units or none at all, because we don’t need remastered SC2 with few new units, and or destroy story like Disney did with SW sequels 7,8,9( not talking about TV shows, way better than those Disney 💩 movies). Back to the point, gameplay similar to SC 1and2 but with some new mechanics, but still StarCraft.
Microsoft doesn't own starcraft nor blizzard
@mechwarreir2 Microsoft has been in the process of buying activision/blizzard for like 2 years and it was finalized like two weeks ago.
1000 years in the future is a great suggestion. LotV tied off most of the character plots so cleanly that I've worried they didn't really leave themselves a place to take the plot for SC3. A big time jump would be a great way to take the game into a new story and style.
Let's hope if they make a starcraft 3 they ignore stupid suggestions like"1000 years in the future."
@mechwarreir2 Microsoft just purchased Activision and blizzard on the 13th!
I think it's so cool to see new races, the way they play feels so unique and also it's fun to visualize how the Protoss have to adjust on the fly to defend against this new alien threat!
Kaeron gives serious Aeon Illuminate vibes.
Still, tgat construction range is undeniably OP
Super fun. I'm making an RTS game myself, using a little bit of the gameplay from SC2 - but something far less rigid and narrow in terms of tactical options players can use. I'm really enjoying the fresh gameplay that comes out of this mod. The unit designs are also really nice. I've messed around a bit in SC2 modding and I'm pretty sure none of what is done here is easy to do at all! Hard work in an old game engine. Well done to the creators and I hope they get more recognition.
This is such a cool take on new units. They have similarities but also are very unique at the same time!
Oh yeah, please do more of these. These new races and their gameplay look hella fun!
Ahhh Lowko, the one of few constants in my life. Thanks for another one.
We need more casts of this mod , it is so refreshing
I'd love more of these, especially a series with the 3rd race we didn't see here
If Keiron would be added as an actuall fraction in the SC2 univers i wouldn't be to suprised. It is really well rounded, hast super good distinguish designs and overall they look so nice. I remember from you casting it some years ago, there was a unit that could throw some sort of basketball at enemys that would make more damage the more far the enemy would be from the unit. I also love the hamster balls xD, they are invisible out of combat. That is such a coooool idea!!!!! Such a cool fraction. If it would be a playable race, this would be mine!!
It's the keiron siege unit, it's actually the opposite, since the attack needs to come back to the unit to be launched again it does less dps when far away but has 12 max range (siege tanks have 13) so they can be used to counter tanks paired with the unit that can heal shield
@@altonito777 ahhhh
Please cast more games from the tournament if you can, seeing the new races was really cool!
Absolutely loveeee these custom game casts!!!! Great content
Please cover more of these games!!! Scion custom races are the future of SC!
These races really makes the imagination fly with ideas of what a cool race could be
A great storyline for this wo uld be how the new races appear in SC 3, SC 4, SC 5 etc. with eventually GEnetron getting more and more ruthless like the Borg to the point where there is no option but to bring back the Overmind to save all.
I love this, you should make a video introducing these new races and their units and structures!!!
nice cast! Would love to see more of this in the future
please show more of these races. they are awesome
I’m so excited for the RTS games on the horizon. ❤ In the meanwhile, this is really cool - I’d love to see you cast some more games!
Had no idea this mod existed. Really awesome. Suddenly I want to play SC2 again. It's been years!
Keiron, especially their building animation looks like Aion faction from Supcom.
Definitely some interesting mods, the battle did seem to go back and forth for quite a while, without one side clearly having the upper hand very soon into the game.
Lowko, you're the best! I really appreciate your upbeat attitude!
"hamster ball" unit looks amazing! can not quite believe it is a custom model, so nicelly done!
plus they are invisible until they attack and deal much more damage when uncloacking ! you can also upgrade them to immediately cloak after attacking but they take 15 damage on their life each attack. It doesn't seem so great but the damage output is insane. great unit for harass !
That yellow colour on Keiron really reminded me of Series 9 from KKND2, love that game
"You have your detector and transport unit in one, which is kind of awesome."
Yes, what a novel concept. Not like the zerg had it in SC1, right? ;)
Im so happy that you mix in something diffrent from the normal casts, because i can watch them all day, but these are giving some kind of breather. I think this makes the channel even more interesting. I personaly think it would be a good thing to see 2 Videos a week not being a pro game. Viewer games are always so fun, but it seems like you don't like casting them anymore. Some more highlight stream videos from time to time would be nice too, even tho ther are some of them sometimes.
would love to see more, beautiful mod, refreshing cast
we didn't expect this lowko
Really enjoyed this, definately would like to see more and learn more...via you learning more... and telling me during the cast 😂
I really/always liked the way the Xayid looks like, but the way they play out is uncanny.
I love this so much! Every time I think I saw everything the races have to offer, they showcase something new. That's just so much fun. And it really seems very well balanced, too.
Please make more videos of those! Maybe consider using some interface that allows for tooltips checking, if that's a thing.
I could handle a once a week Scion mod cast. I hope you get enough views to justify it!
This sounds like an epic idea
These videos are so amazing and entertaining, the videos with a twist such as this one and the ais are just incredible, please cast more of them🤩
It's cute to see modded races in SC2, wouldn't mind seeing more (:
If hero was unprepared, I'm not really interested. I feel like we wouldn't see him at his best. Dark games, though, sound fun! I like myself some turtle matches :D
Ive been hoping to see you cover some custom races.
I am in love with this mod a well made new race mode That doesn't feel overpowered and it looks like it came from a different game inspired by Command and conquer and gray goo 10/ 10 billion👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🥳🥳🥳🥳
More of these would be amazing ! I love it!
I love how this mod brings out new unit compositions from the existing races. Stalker, phoenix, mothership is not a composition you see every day! I would love to see more casts from this mod. Maybe a video of you playing it as well
Yeah as someone who's trying to figure out new metas with old races against these new ones, it's super exciting to find something new which works well. I've found for protoss against keiron, one of the most efficient compositions you can make in the late game is colossi Tempest, sometimes with Disruptors. Furthermore, none of these races have ravagers or ghosts so all of a sudden sentry based compositions aren't such a poor idea even into the early late game.
Would love to see more casts of this tournament!
The mendlings actually look like a kitbash of both the queen and the lurker, they got lurker legs and spines but queen posture and attack animations
the way the keiron build their structures reminds me of how the Aeon in supreme commander build where they create a pool of quicksilver metal that slowly forms into the building or unit
I saw these way back in the mod competition The 3rd Race, if memory serves. Not bad entries but my favourite was the proper UED.
Lowko - "These Umbras have such a cool movement idea! That unit movement is really neat!" Baneling - Am I a joke to you? *explodes*
this is really cool, would love to see more
That yellow race looks Really COOL ! Microsoft hire this guy who made this race. :)
The Flying V. It really works 😂
I think these game design ideas are very stormgate like, which is super cool. Like, structures that have other use than only giving supply, units that have clear strengths and weaknesses but high micro potential, etc
Keiron's unit mechanic is funky. All but upgrade structure produces charges over time, and the max of these charges are limited based on structures. You spend these charges along with resource from your Citadel (the main building where workers pop out) to warp in units within Citadel's range.
Also the "cooldown" in your Citadel basically makes your units including your workers move faster. Really useful for repositioning in defense, but I personally found it to be better as a resource ability since your workers also move around faster while gathering
Oh and yes, their structures that enable flying units are all.also fluing buildings. You dont always need to make them in dead space, but it saves on real estate in your main and helps with crowding, sonce Keiron mains tend to be overflowing with structures that all independently produce charges
I would love see more of this.
Fun! I'd love to see more of this mod from you.
looks great would love to watch more
Very neat! I'd love to see more.
More of these custom race matches plz ❤
Love watching this! I wanna check out the mod now. I'm happy to hear theyre making sc3!
"You have your detector and transport unit in one, which is kinda awesome"
SC1 zerg: First time?
really fun hope you cast this some more another time =)
I'd looove you to showcase the rest of the games from the tournament :D
Detector and transport unit in one was in SC1. Also served as supply, so it was way overpowered.
That mod looks AWESOME !
The first game did not looked very balanced, but it might be just me being used to the good old basic units. The Rest of series was surprisingly very fast-paced and action packed; just what I would expect from a good gameplay.
Like the majority here - I'd love to see more casts of those ;)
Thanks for casting! ^^
I like this mod a lot, it's the first time I'm seeing it and it's nuts. Definitely there's lots of potential right there!
Crazy that a modder managed to balance his custom races against each other as well as against the normal races!! Just wish all of them were viable both early, mid and late game
More please!
Nice cast here sir Lowko
would be so cool to see this in all tournaments..
Very interesting. I can imagine the amount of time and effort it takes to make the custom races. Hoping for Starcraft III.
I llllllllLOVE high quality casts for the scion races, especially vs standard races. Plz moar!!!
I can watch more of this, might even play it
*Glowing Balls rolls
-Lowko impress
Forgot banelings exists
Man even just a 4th race would be awesome. Blizz should have these guys just focus on one of these races and get it perfect to introduce into the game somehow. Certainly would breath new life into the game! Or all of them haha they all def have really cool ideas
I would love to see more of these please
Love you keep up the good StarCraft content
this was amazing