i lost my aunt recently to alcoholism and in order to 'honor' her, some of her family and friends took a shot of her favorite drink (fireball) and i know they were trying to cope with the pain of loss but it just feels so so so wrong. imagine shooting up heroin to commemorate someone you lost to heroin, it just feels insanely disrespectful despite the good intentions. thanks for this video -- i wish alcoholism wasn't so demonized/lighthearted and instead treated with more sympathy
Lots of heroin users do just that...and hopefully remind themselves that using alone leads to death. one of the things decriminalisation will lead to is addicts not having to be so secret about their habits. Not that we want it done in public...just that they need a buddy system, quality testing etc. There would be so many less deaths.
@@LusciousTwinkle agreed, alienating addicts is the worst thing to do and i hope one day we can have like. reliable support systems for any kind of addict cuz they need that care desperately
@@xXHireneXx im so sorry hahah, i do wish they at least held off drinking for a bit just out of respect for her but , nope....just another excuse to take a shot lol
The availability of alcohol is one of the biggest obstacles. Imagine everytime you went out to eat as a heroin addict you were given a selection of different types of heroin at varying strengths and purities to go with your burger. Alcoholics that manage sobriety have to have more self control than other addicts imo. The fact you can't get a prescription for managed heroin addiction is ridiculous. Hospitals keep booze on site for people so they don't relapse. There's a clear double standard
In my country you can't buy it on Sundays, and it closes much earlier on Saturdays... I remember getting super wasted three weeks ago, Saturday, did an all-nighter and wanted more booze. I waited to leave at 9:30 AM so I would be there when it opens at 10 AM, and when I arrive it's closed, cuz it's always closed on Sundays... It actually made my heart sink, and I almost called a friend to ask if he can ''lend'' me some alcohol but then I was like ''wtf am I doing?'' Haven't had a drop since that day.
@@K4inan I don't know you and I don't know enough about problematic alcohol consumption. I just hope you'll always feel that strength, and I hope you live the life you want to live in the long run! :) I wish all the best to all you strangers on the internet!
Alcohol is INSANELY normalized. In such formative years as well. People will drink with their parents at 15. It's acceptable to drink and get drunk. And it's such a dangerous DEADLY addiction. We need to take alcohol a lot more seriously because people think that it's JUST alcohol. Alcohol is a deadly drug. And people need to be careful with it. The fact that it's so available and that it's legal definitely makes people not think of it as a drug as well. People think drugs are bad and taboo. But they're just drugs. Substances that can alter the mind or body. What makes them "bad" is what you do with them.
I totally agree! I’m fine with kids drinking with their parents but only when their parents do it as a special occasion and when they make them drink responsibly (I had alcohol at New Years at 17 but I was only allowed 1 drink and I had to wait until I was 20 before my mom allowed any more than that). Some drugs are def more harmful than others but a lot of it boils down to safety and self control etc
Then the issue is that we moralize substances instead of teaching people better. Alcohol is only really a problem when you misuse it. It's not a bad thing, it is a thing. A thing you need to use responsibly. A thing that can get out of hand if you try to rely on it too much. These addictions are symptoms of our views on mental health as a society. If people were taught how to live healthy lives MENTALLY from a young age, we would make it less of a "needed" coping mechanism and easier to break a reliance on. This isn't about good and bad, it's about responsibilities and how frankly we tend to neglect them as a society. I'm making this distinction because people think banning things works and is the solution, prohibition just makes it worse because it furthers and even tries to justify our neglect. It should be normal. It's a normal substance. But so should be good mental health care and self discipline.
"why is this poison so socially acceptable?" --something i ask myself everyday as i get closer and closer to quitting my liquor store job cause seeing the misery and suffering in peoples' eyes is getting to be too much for me
@Kamil S i dont think anyone is saying heroin is a good thing. Its poison as well, and its a sweet tricky poison, but the way alcohol is normalised in society when it so changes someones personality, and people get weird and aggressiv when it affects others as well as your self (not saying H using doesnt affect others because you need money for it etc) but on alcohol people become evil, on H... Its just a calmness.. Both should be illegal because both are addictive poison, but the double standards about alcohol compared to other drugs are crazy.
it’s also because it has been illegal back in the days but people still drank and they thought the law didn’t change much anyway so why make it illegal
@@rachelw2601 Im an alcoholic and about to be in rehab for 3 months. :( Until then I'll just keep drinking as apparently it's dangerous for me to stop without medication and treatment.
Great work stay strong. Change your whole way of living try to find happiness in the small things in life.the more years of sobriety you get the easier it is eventually you will completely change the way you feel about drinking and will want nothing to do with it you will associate it with all the problems it caused. I've been sober 15 years drank a 5th of vodka + a day for years. Good luck you can do it but it requires a lot of change in your life and thinking.
My family doesn’t understand alcoholism. My aunt is an alcoholic and everyone in our family gets mad at her for the way she acts and how much she drinks. But they enable the fuck out of it. They always bring alcohol to her house, they always drink with her. They just get mad that she can’t control herself. They think she is capable of controlling it and is just unwilling to.
If you'd bring a rock at my place i sure as hell know i'm going to put it in a spoon. And fast. That's actually a good comparison now yhat i think about it. How about using that analogy on your family members?
in the A.A.12 step program, step 1 says" we admitted we were powerless over alcohol----that our lives had become unmanageable." well, i balked at that part "...we were POWERLESS over alcohol..." i didn't like saying i was powerless, i could DECIDE not to drink, or on some days i could just take it easy on the drink, i mean, that's not POWER-LESS, so, to be honest, i realized that it was more accurate to say that "when i drink, at some point, the effects of alcohol were MORE POWERFUL than my will to control the drinking"& so i see it like leverage on a teeter totter, if im 180 lbs, sitting on one side, then it takes more than 180 on the other side to be more powerful (more weight) than me, my will. so, my new improved, rigorously honest, EDITED step ONE now reads," i admitted i was less powerful than the effects of alcohol" now, to some people, that may seem like nit-picking or denial, but i think it's important to be rigorously honest with myself, & not to say words that i don't fully mean.
it can be incredibly hard to tell an alcoholic you won't bring them alcohol or won't be around them when they're drinking. you'd think it would be straightforward to set a boundary and stick to it but they bring out the full arsenal of manipulation and guilt trips to make you change your mind. Don't know if that's the case in your family but it's really frustrating to deal with
It's WAY more accessible/acceptable. My Mom was a junkie but it was the alcohol that killed her at 52 overall. You name it she shot it. We had money to a fault, really. I just turned 50 yesterday, I smoke weed, that's it. Herion/oxy also alters your brain (receptors) from the minute you take it.
My dad was an alcoholic for as long as I know. He died a year ago from cirrhosis of the liver, not only does it affect physical health but also mental health. We had a complicated relationship because of his addiction, but its very much real and its very much serious. Worst part was he never accepted his addiction
As a pharmacist who's struggled with addiction myself, I completely support the legalisation and regulation of drugs. The idea that substance dependence is something that can be "fixed", with a goal of no substance use completely, is hurting more people than it's helping.
Absolutely true!In Germany it is possible since 2003 to get heroine as a medicine for people who are addicted (after you examined by doctors and psychologists because they want to avoid that non addicted people come into the program).And the majority of the people became healthier and looked much better. I was one of the first addicts who came into the program (I used methadone before but it didn't work, I don't like it).For me it was a good experience.
To any former alcoholics out there, don't let yourself get into a false sense of security. The way she talks about how she views alcohol now is exactly how I felt for years. When I got sober even the smell of alcohol made me, no joke, heave. For around 3-4 years I thought I was completely done with alcohol. Maybe every once in a while I thought about it, but that was immediately overshadowed by all of the times that shit nearly killed me. All the times in hospital. All the times in rehab. I thought there was no way I would ever touch it again. Then, I experienced one of the worst losses of my life. Now I drink even more than I did many years ago. It's ironic, I used to say I did it because I was just "young and stupid", yet here I am again. My point is, don't let your guard down, as it were. Because that's the moment your world will change.
Thank you so much for sharing. I am six years sober and feel that same lack of desire/borderline disgust for alcohol. I am considering dating someone new and wondered at the back of my mind, “could I have the occasional drink with them since alcohol “has lost its power” over me?” Your words shut those thoughts right down. Please know that there’s always a way back. It’s taken me a long time and many tries to break my various cycles of addiction. You will find your way out of this. ❤
My ex boyfriend is a recovering alcoholic and the nights I couldn’t find him were some of the scariest. It is a drug we just forget because it’s so accessible.
The fact that alcohol is so normalised makes it hard for alcoholics to recognise when it's a problem too, especially if they're around others who are also heavy drinkers. Thanks for such an insightful video.
@Kamil S literally no, there’s plenty of heroine “recreational users” just like their are plenty of alcohol users who are only recreational. Not al heroine users are addicts, just like all alcohol users are alcoholics, but alcoholism is a normalised issue, I’ve had friends tell me they have issues and most other people shut them down saying it’s normal, when it’s not. It’s so hard for them to get help because unless you’re doing a shot of vodka when you wake up, people don’t think you need help. There’s a spectrum of addiction, not everyone is a daily user, some just can’t control themselves when they start.
@@guyrose2350 That is really rare people that do that or people that don't have addicted personality I've been around all kinds of drugs And I could tell you there are more people that can drink just every weekend compared to somebody that uses heroin That would be said something like cocaine or math there is more people that can do that occasionally without getting super addicted Most People that are alcoholics or people that drink all the time Most at a time have anxiety or depression So they self medicate But people that just like to drink occasionally can go days those days without drinking You're acting like if you just had a few drinks on a Saturday that you're alcoholic lmfao
Especially for women, especially especially for older/ parenting age women. This has been happening since the 50s when women were encouraged to drink to get through the day and through sex, to now when they are told to drink “mommy juice” in order to get through parenting. These all stem from the fact that being a wife or mother can be extremely isolating, especially in the US where homes are single family and single generation. Independence is also romanticized but can quickly turn to isolation when you don’t have a support system or close relationships outside your family The alcoholics in my life who have gotten treatment have had their lives enriched just by the fact that they are forced to go hang out with people they have a bunch in common with at least once a week
probably the scariest thing is that if you want, you can get addicted to anything. hunger, excercise, internet, alcohol, drugs. every illness is valid, so is every addiction. I am glad, You are still around, Dorian. Wishing You all the best and more years in staying sober. Sending a virtual hug to You from Poland.
But just because it's valid doesn't make you an immoral or moral person. You're ability to be a good or bad person doesn't ride on these factors, which I think is another discussion we need to have as a society. That these topics and problems are *amoral.*
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty I agree that the stigma is not really helping the ones who are seeking help in coping and overcoming addictions. The fact you seek help should not make you someone you are not.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty That's a weird thing to say... What do you mean with "these topics are amoral"? We're talking about addictions, addictions have to do with obsessive human behaviors... And human behaviors can be morally questioned. Now, I'm not saying "all addicts are bad people", I don't believe that. I think it's far more complicated, and also, it's hard to classify people as "good" or "bad", because we all do good and bad things and our intentions and circumstances behind the same actions also vary a lot. Anyways, what do you mean with "amoral"??
@@lobaetoile8440 the action of taking or not taking a drug isn't moral or immoral. And the substance it's self isn't immoral or moral. Neither make you a better person or a worse person. And the substance isn't good or evil, it's just that substance. Whether or not you're a good person relies on other factors and the substance can be used for both good and evil. So drugs aren't bad but abusing them is and being someone who took/tried that drug doesn't make you bad, how you treat others on or off of them would. So the drugs *themselves* are amoral, as in lacking inherently morality. It's what you do with them that's good or bad. And using them isn't inherently one way or the other. Like making medicine or drugging someone. One's good the other is bad, not because drugs were involved but because of what you did with them. (And btw that was a good question, I've been dealing with people much less polite and much less interested in discussion than you blowing up my inbox with hate comments. So this was more appreciated than you'll probably ever know ☺️)
I grew up around family members who did harder drugs like meth and heroin and I feel like my childhood was much nicer than some of my friends who grew up around alcoholics, and that sounds crazy to say because of societal ideas of alcohol
wow,, how would you describe growing up like this? also sorry I don't wanna be nosy,, i just saw this kind of statement for the first time so if you don't feel comfortable its totally cool!
@@ipek2556 the people partaking were very self involved and I spent a lot of my childhood with different family members to try and shelter me from it. But even if they were out of it or jittery, they still loved me and tried to care for me the best they could. Alternatively, I’ve seen many alcoholics have anger streaks or get very emotional, which is a lot more affecting. For the most part the bad part for me was emotional distance instead of being in a more, what I would call “abusive” relationship with the people.
@@carolinefake9920 definitely! Im recovering from booze addiction and I was a super angry drunk. I'm not an angry person sober at all and how I acted was not actually (despite the common saying) true to how I felt. It really did feel like Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde. Alcohol can be terrifying.
Bro, I went out the other night to party with some friends. One of my friends kept trying to peer pressure me and my other friend (former alcoholic) to take shots with him. I told him no like 3 times, finally I said I was sober and never wanna touch that stuff again, he blew it off as a joke and kept asking for us to take shots with him. It really blew my mind that he didn't stop urging after I mentioned that me and my other friend were sober. It was like he didn't take our addiction and all the struggles we had because of the addiction seriously. Like being an addicted to alcohol is a joke.
I hope you realize that that is not really your friend , if he was, he would not pressure you in the beginning to take a drink. I think you need to reevaluate that friendship and let him go.
You are the only content creator I have found that is talking about addiction and eating disorders. I struggle with both. I have been clean for years but the eating disorder started before and is definately present in the back of my mind. It's nice to see people who have recovered.
I, too, am recovering from both & appreciate this place. I’ve been substance-sober, but the ED was there first & it’s the most difficult…gotta eat every day, after all 😓
My uncle who was a life long heroine addict recently passed away. The job of clearing out his house was put onto my brother and I, which was oddly exciting because I'd regrettably not really known him that well as an adult. His house was absolutely packed, and we found a lot of weird stuff. One of the most interesting things we found was a book/essay he'd written on his old typewriter about how prescription heroine is the only way to solve "the heroine problem." I read the whole thing and completely agreed with everything he'd written. Sadly, the next thing I found was a brief case completely full of rejection letters from every newspaper, magazine and TV news show stating that it was not a topic they were willing to cover.
i know this is a comment that's well over a year old, but i think that it'd be interesting if you manage to post it online, even if it's just a link on a tweet to a google doc with scans of his essay. i hope you and your family are doing well nowadays after the loss of your uncle
You could publish it in his honor and maybe use a portion/entirety of each sale to donate a charity that helps with heroin addiction. It could be really powerful. Hope you’re doing ok! :)
I'm a light drinker (one or two drinks every 3 months? maybe?) and its because I saw my dad pound 40-50 cans per weekend before driving to work during the week (he never drove drunk, he just worked in a different part of the UK so he'd use the weekends when he was home to "catch up" on his drink) and suffer diabetes type 2 because of it as well as being a short tempered prick at times. He and my mum would have shouting matches all the time, there was infidelity, it was nasty. He doesnt drink as much anymore since mum died. But because of this I drink very lightly. I had a friend in uni who was teatotal and didn't drink at all because of a similar but more extreme issue, and when we went out on nights out or for dinner with friends she'd get *hounded* for not drinking as if her not drinking was making other people not have fun? It was disgusting. I had to back her up a ton and tell people off so many times and I'd usually do it in a joking way so their already-drunk-ass wouldn't get violent or anything towards us sober girls. I just wanted to scream at them like, "If someone not partaking in your drug of choice makes you upset mate, maybe you're the one with a problem?" Afterall, insecurity speaks loud. Like how some people judge others by how they look and gossip because they themselves are insecure and think other people are doing the same to them. You do you Sileena
I don't know if this will help you but my sis has never drunk alcohol because her stepfather drank and she wanted to be nothing like him, but her 'drink of choice' was orange jiuce with ONE ice cube. That was her thing, and that one ice cube totally took people's attention away from the lack of alcohol. It's worth a try.
same, gets annoying having to say "no" 11 times because an entire group of people won't give up on trying to persuade you to drink. Saying its because of my meds doesn't help either. Had someone offer me 5 bucks to drink after I told them that. (i dont meet or talk to anyone anymore so its not a problem now)
I rarely drink, I don't even like the taste of alcohol.. and people think it's absurd or impossible not to drink it. Unfortunately it's considered a good way to socialise.
My dad has been an alcoholic my entire life. He isn't a mean drunk or anything, and tries his hardest to not drink, but it was really difficult growing up. As an adult, you realize your parents aren't superheroes and they have their own demons. It's dangerous how desensitized society is to alcohol/alcoholism in general.
@@decomposingdiamond7355 yessss even speaking for myself who has a normal relationship with alcohol, if I was to go to a party and NOT drink then at least one person would try to pressure me to drink. Not to be mean, but just to party. However, if the same thing was to happen, except this time with drugs and I said no, then no one would likely press the issue. I'm sorry you had to experience alcoholism in your family. It's really tough, and should be taken much more seriously by society.
I thought I was the only one with a drunk father that is not necessarily mean. He is a good person on the inside. But his addiction is taking the best of him. I'm sending you support and good vibes.
I just need to write this: your experiences are and were valid as fuck. Totally. But they are anecdotal. And I’ve seen the reverse. I’ve seen alcoholics who are more or less functional. I’ve seen heroin nearly kill one friend and killing another friend.
Agreed that they're anecdotal. This is the first time I've heard someone being an heroin addict who was functional and their overall experience was positive.
@@thetinglessasmrtist The problem is they make it into a black and white situation and that’s exactly what causes more problems and leads to more drug addiction down the road that’s why I’m not a big fan of making it mythical as far as crime and stuff though there are some things that should be an absolute no, but drugs are a little more complex than just being addicted.
I cried as soon as you mentioned seizures. At the peak of my alcoholism I would be having seizures at work or on public transport once or twice a month and I was in complete denial about it being tied to my drinking. These seizures nearly ruined my life, and I have a long term shoulder problem as a result. Thank you for highlighting this issue that isn’t talked about enough!!
Whenever I tell someone that I don't drink the reaction is always insinuating that there is something wrong with me. If we are having a get together with some colleagues there is always pressure to drink (I just bring my own non alcoholic drinks.) What the fuck is wrong with people? Alcohol is literally poison, no matter how many times I explain that it hurts my sensitive stomach people brush it off and insist I drink.
Frankly? It's an experience much like something like sex where a majority of people like it. It can bring people closer together and can make thing more fun. And yes while it can be dangerous if you do so responsibly then those are minimized/negated. Most people just aren't educated well enough on what "safe" is. And also, it doesn't help that with the way you worded it you sound rather narrow minded about it. Like you're the kind of person whose never tried it and heard one bad thing and just decided it was "poison". Anything is a poison in large enough dose. And it doesn't really matter even if you have tried it before, because of how you express yourself about it. When you wall yourself off from others tonally they're going to try and get you to let them in. So rather than coming up with excuses or being dismissive, you need to open up a bit and say what REALLY hold you back. And if you haven't tried it, you should. (* As in, this is a way to understand the "hype" better and yourself better through your reaction not just because someone told you to.) It's not really something you can explain, no book or person is ever going to be able to tell you how that feels for you. You may find that it doesn't even affect you in normal dosages. Making it pointless to fear. And if you have then explain that you've tried it, you just don't like whatever it is you didn't like about it. And also avoid situations and people involving alcohol because if you don't like to drink I HIGHLY doubt you like drunk people. Either way, you should change your tone and mindset to sound and be more open minded and experienced. When you admit you literally don't know why others like some thing, they're going to try and show you. Especially when you're this adversarial about it. Like it or not, this is how it is. And I'm not going to fight with you and "change your mind", I'm just answering your question. If you have more, feel free to ask.
I always get the same reaction! Here where I live alcohol is almost always a must at gatherings of all sorts and as a person who doesn't drink I always get so many comments about it. It's honestly extremely annoying, no matter how much people would force me into drinking I always refuse and because of it I was seen as a fun killer which is just ridiculous. Some people I know even were betting on who will finally make me drink lol
@@SavvyNitro Yeah, lmao- I don’t drink and I will never drink because alcohol isn’t just something worth starting for me due to all my health problems. I don’t have to have a good reason to not want to drink anyways- just saying “no thanks” should be a good enough answer to people. I’m just lucky that I’m still underage in my country- or people would be pushy about it. Alcohol is a drug and it complicates things that I would rather just not be complicated in the first place.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty No....no. It's really up to them, if they don't feel like they like it then what's the point..? 'Oh- you don't like sex?? Well everyone else does, so maybe you should just try it even though you have no compulsion to.' Nah.
Congrats on 3 years sober!! 🎉🎉🌟 In America in the early 90s, when my mom was in residency (to be a doctor), apparently they could prescribe a beer for alcoholics when they were concerned about seizures/death, but they stopped BECAUSE OF THE OPTICS. People are literally dying from withdrawal bc hospitals don't want to look bad.
They still provide alcohol to people with withdrawals in hospitals. Maybe not all of them, but this is still very common practice as it's pretty much the only way to help an alcoholic in withdrawal. It's not like cigarettes, you cannot quit alcohol cold turkey or you can die. My ex was in the hospital with DT's and they gave her beer.
@@TheGrandGamers its funny you can quit painkillers/opiates/literal heroin cold turkey and be perfectly fine (you'll just want it really bad and feel uncomftrouble without it) but there are no negative health effects and you definitely won't die. Meanwhile quit alchohol cold turkey and you will die. crazy
@@TheGrandGamers maybe in some countries. In Austria and Italy they're ahead in pharmacological treatment of alcohol withdrawal, they don't prescribe or give alcohol
You're so lucky that your heroin addiction was as functional and..... positive? I suppose..... I come from a tough background and I started when I was 12. I'm almost 26 and it's the worst it's ever been. Like $500 a day. I know a lot of people who got sick from heroin cut with morphine (gives you the worst itchy pins and needles feeling too), or heroin cut with benzos.
Actually MANY people die while using meth because its so strong. Its way more addictive than heroin (try a month short term withdrawals rather than a week and a year of long term withdrawals rather than a month). Its expensive and people still use heroin while on it...making it harder to gauge how close you are to ODing. Heroin is cheaper and addicts should just be prescribed it.
@@LusciousTwinkle I agree, I wrote another comment saying prescription heroin should definitely be a thing. FYI I'm on methadone, I know how bad it sucks, but it did help me out of homelessness because I didn't need to focus on staying well constantly.
the way people romanticize alcohol abuse as something that only the cool kids do while demonizing hard drug usage doesn't sit right with me. if you're going to shit on one, shit on the other as well.
Hope you're better now and staying sober. Or if you're at low, I'm sure it'll get better soon :) Keep the good people around you and take care of your physical and mental health. Eat healthy, pet animals, talk to loved ones, go out on a walk whenever you can. I'm sure you can do it! Much love to you :)
Yeah you're heroin experience is definitely NOT a typical. I have no veins left, had constant infections, and robbed my own mother to not be sick. So yeah, typical junkies are not a pretty picture.
Yeah I’ve had many friends / acquaintances die of heroin overdoes..... It’s extremely destructive for most people in every way. Her experience was an aberration. Glad she is okay and can live to tell her story.🖤
i have never injected in nearly 20 years and never robbed anyone. I came to my heroin use late....and I knew what I was getting into. i dont think typical junkies exist. The problem is that those who are young and not so organised get into trouble with the law and those are the ones we hear about mostly. How many professionals go home and use? We dont know.
My boyfriend is recovering rn, but a lot of his Christmas and birthday gifts have been alcohol related in the past few years. Bottle of vodka, brewery passport, bottle of whiskey, moscow mule cups, etc. Confusing as well, bc a couple of these came from his mom, who is a former alcoholic herself. Drinking is made to be so normal but these kinds of things can do a lot of harm and I think people just choose not to see it
Wow that's crazy ! Both of your guys stories.. People just don't get it. .I'm sure they mean well ,they probably just didn't know what to buy for gift for them and the first thought was oh well he likes to drink,let's get a drink related gift! Not noticing that the word likes, is not valid atm ,no one enjoys being addicted to alcohol or anything really. .unless it's in the beginning and they have a long way to go. .
@@tri-angel my roommate´s mom also is an alcoholic who literally drank herself disabled and she gifted a bottle of rum to roommate when she was 17 and asked a few days later why she hasn´t drunk it yet... wtf
You're like that cool relative that has a ton of stories and says "don't do this, kids, but do you want to hear a story?" I do agree with you that alcohol is insanely normalized, and I thought it was just only in Spain, but apparently not. I was never an alcoholic, but I kinda decided to not drink at all a few years ago (I really despise the taste), and whenever I go out with friends, everyone is like "you don't drink? Why? Are you sick?" and things like that. I just don't understand why people can't respect that you don't drink.
Its def like that here in the US. I know a lot of people in addiction recovery from a variety of substances, but alcoholics have a really rough time because everyone wants to go to the bar or have a party at home. If you don't drink you either get left out, or harassed. Its bs.
@@electricfishfan very true. And it's so ingrained that most people don't even realize what they're doing, I think. It bothers me that my sober addict friends have to struggle so much to get sober, than all the push back from ignorant people. I do drink and smoke sometimes (though the latter is more for medical reasons.), its not that hard to abstain for a little while for their health and safety. If you can't go a day or a few hours without drinking, might be a good time to reflect on your own drinking.
@@jemimahkendall6579 I wasn't talking about the stories when I said cool, but about Dorian. I honestly think they're one of the coolest persons on this platform (aesthetic and personality wise). Sorry if my comment offended you, it was not my intention to make anyone feel uncomfortable.
I’ve been addicted to both, I had to do horrendos things to fund my heroin addiction otherwise I would be violently ill but I also had to do those same things to fund my alcohol addiction otherwise I would end up having a seizure and could possibly die. Not a lot of people know this but alcohol and benzo withdrawals are the only two that can actually kill you. Alcohol addiction is on the same playing field as heroin addiction in my eyes, they’re both serious and they both require professional help, I’ve been clean 3 years in August by the Grace of my God ❤️
@@baxterbunch I cold turkeyed from morphine last year and it was one of the most frightening things I've ever endured. Opiate withdrawal attacks you in all ways. People just cannot begin to comprehend the total horror. The worst part is the psychological part in my opinion. But the physical part is horrific too. I still have to take morphine and tramadol for a degenerative back condition but now I only use it 3 days a week to avoid addiction. My tolerance and use had escalated to incredible amounts. I was weaning off for 7 months which was hell and in the end I just cold turkeyed because I couldnt handle it anymore. So I empathise. Again well done ❤
@@craigg5410 been there but not by choice. That’s it’s own special type of nightmare. Losing 70 pounds and introducing medical marijuana allowed me to reduce my morphine intake massively. Just don’t end up in Florida when you’re in between pain management clinics. 🫵🏻
My ex stepmoms grandfather died in our house when I was 10 because he got so sick he had to quit drinking and ended up passing away in my ex step brothers room
Absolutely. I was watching a home-makeover show where they had installed a wine cooler and beer tap and I just thought how odd that was...to fill their home with "paraphernalia" like that. This substance is so accepted and embraced yet it wreaks just as much havoc as many other illicit drug. We have decades of backward thinking to undo.
My tolerance on heroin went up extremely fast when I started shooting. When I was smoking I could get by on $20-30 a day plus $10-20 for meth, because I had that addiction too. As soon as I started on the needle, I was soon shooting $100+ a day just on heroin, meth stayed about the same maybe $50 (you get a lot of meth for $50 vs $10) and I was homeless too. So glad to be sober sitting in my bed right now with a full stomach and a clear mind. When I was an alcoholic it was much cheaper for me personally, but that's intresting you found it cheaper to be a heroin addict.
As someone who struggles with an eating disorder and was slipping into a drinking/drug problem (two weeks sober) your videos really help. I can’t thank you enough for sharing your experience
Haven't gone sober yet on alcohol but you got this alright? You might get those temptations but take it day by day and don't beat yourself up. Two weeks is amazing! Keep doing you love ♥️
I'm gonna say this cause I really can't get past it. I know you said towards the end that you think all addictions should be taken seriously and you aren't telling anyone to do heroin, so I'm not putting this on you. But as a person from a US city where you can't go to the heart of the city without seeing hundreds of addicts either in groups of 5-10 walking around nodding off simultaneously, or together on the side of gas station on the floor completely out of it, or hearing that kids are finding dirty needles on play grounds more than ever, and seeing a rise in homelessness in my city due to this unfortunate rise in opiate addiction, PLEASE be fucking careful because not everyone will be able to manage opiates as well as Dorian. And all of this ^ started only in the past few years, I'm assuming due to the introduction of fentanyl. I've had to stop a woman from falling on train tracks cause she kept zoning out. I've had to pick up a woman's belongings 5+ times on a bus ride cause she kept dropping her purse (and I did it gladly each time because everyone deserves grace). It's every fucking where in my city and I don't blame these folks. A lot of this is my city not taking the proper measures to assure these folks a methadone clinic and shelters that could help them, and giving out opiates like candy in hospitals. My point is to say, don't take either of these substances lightly (again I know Dorian said this, just reiterating) because not everyone can emotional handle being so responsible with heroin, and ESPECIALLY with drugs that hook on to you, even after years of sobriety. Just how Dorian's alcohol addiction started off seemingly innocent and spiraling out of control, the same could happen to anyone with ANYTHING. And ESPECIALLY opiates, with the rise of fentanyl cuts all over America. It's fucking terrible to witness. This epidemic particularly in the states has traumatized the fuck outta me, so I say all this purely out of genuine care for you all. Please do not take either of these substances lightly. And just to add, I hate that instead of getting these people help they just through them into another traumatic situation aka jail and prison. And I'm glad you mentioned the experiments they did before the war on drugs, it'd be nice now if they did SOMETHING helpful, like seriously.
@@ferrisbueller9991 thank you for letting me know. I only mentioned it because I was watching a couple interviews of folks, and they mentioned that fentanyl felt harder to kick than anything else they did. Appreciate your comment though 🙏🏾
I'm in the states as well. Charlotte NC since 2014 and Orlando prior to that. I appreciate you saying what I wanted to say but couldn't word it as well. What major city are you in? Simply curious, so no need to answer if you don't want. Blessings
The problem is America's policy on opiate use. If it wasn't black market and wasn't stigmatized a lot of the problems you describe would disappear. I say this as someone living in the heart of the rust belt who was so hard hit by the opiate epidemic that oprah came to the area for a show. I lost a lot of friends I wouldn't have lost of they could have copped their drug legally with assurances of its purity and dosage.
Lost my dad to alcoholism. I lost him three times, actually. Once when we had to move away from him, once when he couldn't live with himself and went to live abroad homeless, and the final time when he finally killed himself with it, developing incurable throat cancer that took away all his teeth, his ability to speak and finally his ability to eat. He was 48 when he died, 2 weeks after I had seen and hugged him for the last time and told him I would visit again. He never knew he wouldn't make it but all the doctors did and never told him.
I managed to stay sober for 14 months from alcohol, but I have severe chronic pain that makes me want to end my life everyday. September 14th of 2021 a close lifelong friend of mine took his own life. A week later I relapsed and haven't even wanted to stop since then. My mother is very supportive of me, but literally nobody else around me understands how serious this addiction is. I appreciate your video so much, thank you seriously.
I struggle with chronic debilitating pain as well. That's what kept me going back to heroin over and over again. Suboxone was a game changer for me because it helps my pain & I don't feel high and it contains an opiate blocker to prevent you from being able to get high.
@@deannalawley53 yeah wait till you get cut off. I guarantee if you went through bad enough withdrawal and heroin was put in front of you, you'd rip a fat line with barely any hesitation, it any at all.
@@LILREMAlNS cut off from what? I've been using since I was 15 I'm 40 now I've gone through withdrawal plenty of times and not once tried herion. So I don't understand your comment.also I started recovery in July
We are all addicts - to serotonin, oxytocin etc. And without that addiction we would literally die as there would be no incentive to eat or drink or even get out of bed. It's all a case of what we get addicted to - gambling, extreme sports, sex, shoplifting, etc. So many options! Trying to get addicted to healthy stuff now like sports.
This video somewhat downplays the dangers of heroin use. Alcohol addiction is definitely dangerous, but I don’t think it’s worth weighing one type of substance abuse against another especially since different substances have different impacts on different people. Best to stay sober if you have an addictive personality or are in a rough spot with your mental health.
She's not downplaying things she talked about going to a hospital. She's just very functional. Last year I literally died in a car accident after drinking wine. I switched to suboxone after taking opiates to manage pain from the accident and I've had no problems. Some people have no problems ever with alcohol, some people die. Same thing with drugs, and for some reason when someone can't handle drugs people trip out but when someone dies on alcohol people just roll their eyes.
I have known DXM addicts that have died of "misadventure" and or overestimating their coping skills. These kids doing Diphe challenge concerns me greatly.
In my home country most violent crimes are done by drunk people (assaults and murders) Almost always when you hear that someone has killed someone you will find out that they did it while being drunk. When someone dares to point that out they will be met with hostility and stupid ignorant claims that cannabis is more dangerous or something. There has even been a research that basically said that my countrie's people, especially the men are more sucseptible to violence when intoxicated. My father for example had to quit drinking in his twenties because he would constantly beat people up for silly reasons, like someone asking what time it is. There are a lot of alcoholism in my country (has been since like from year 1500) but many people here deny it and think that anyone who doesn't drink is extremely weird and doesn't like fun. It's really childish attitude and I absolutely hate it.
My father was (is not an active user anymore) a severe alcoholic. My whole childhood was centered around his addiction, his anger, physical, sexual and psychological abuse. Guess what? I now suffer from C-PTSD, bulimia, depression and anxiety with severe panic attacks. Alcohol is far too normalised and it can absolutely ruin people's lives.
Experienced the same except the sexual abuse,it was horrible growing up with him. I basically lived at my friends house cause I never wanted to be home. He died from it and also had my issues with it growing up,but I’m doing so much better now.
I sincerely think I have an “easy addition personality” that’s why I never drink alcohol or use other drugs, I know I wouldn’t be strong enough to control the use. Totally agree that we live in a society where alcohol isn’t take seriously.
Same man, and I'd advice you to never even try it. I thought well I won't touch it, but just to not be interested anymore I could use drugs once. And as soon as I crossed the line, the line disappeared. I am 17 and almost had a heart attack from alcohol. I don't drink on regular basis thankfully, but I see myself drawn to it wayyy to much. And if I do, I just can't see my limits. My third time drinking alcohol I had two glasses of Vodca, one Tequila and started drinking a little bit of everything that my friends had ordered. I absolutely have no limits. Now that I look back, I remember that my friends weren't as excited as going to the bar as I was. Starting from the morning I was only fantasizing how the night would be, while they enjoyed the shopping and eating during daytime. I wondered why that was, but now I understand. Sorry, I just wanted to go into detail so you or anyone who has an addictive personality truly understands how you should not even taste drugs any bit.
im the same. i was like this good mindset you have for most of my life.. but eventually, it got me during a low pt in my life in an enabling industry (restaurant/bar). i wish i never touched alcohol or nicotine. sooo hard to quit. 😢
Been addicted to basically every drug, under the sun, and managed to stop them. Alcohol is so difficult, it’s everywhere and socially acceptable. Despite making me physically and mentally the sickest! Over a year and a half year sober from other drugs but alcohol just 9 days. 😔 Thank you for this video! People really don’t know how damaging alcohol is, definitely worse than heroin for me too. 🙏🏻
I was addicted to alcohol when I was 16-19 and everyone just laughed it off like it isn’t a serious illness, I know exactly what you mean. It was always ha ha classic sky drunk at 10am again !! And never any real concern. Sad
@@versatilehumanbeing6013 tbh I still struggle with it, but being around people who support me and aren’t only around me to drink and go to parties has helped a lot. The people I surround myself with now are much better for me. It just took a whole lifestyle change, but I still drink, just not to the extent to which I used to
@@sky-sb5jp Thats gud dear surrounding urself with people who have gud mindset will help u come out of it i am doing the same thing are u on instagram ?
@@Audreylover-dv5cl by some teenagers yes, but the majority consume alcohol and glamorize It. And weed is definitely not glamorized or even seen as neutral by society as a whole, It is demonized.
Watch jessica kent on TH-cam. She is also a recovering addict and mother. I read often in her comments that people understand their relatives better now ❤️
I lost my cousin Ricky to alcoholism… I didn’t know him very well as he was I think 14 years older than I was? Something like that… And they lived in another state. But I remember when they would visit when I was about 3 years old, Ricky always brought his acoustic guitar. And I was his biggest fan… He sat on the sofa and I parked my little behind on the floor right in front of him and kept asking him to play song after song. I was in literal awe by the fact that he could do such a magical thing and make beautiful music (this was 1976, there was a lot of beautiful acoustic guitar music then). Anyway, my uncle pushed him to go to college just like HIS father pushed him to do the same. You’d think he’d have known better because it didn’t work well for him and he eventually went into the business that made him happy. Why he pushed Ricky, I don’t know… But I think that’s why he turned to alcohol. I didn’t see him after I was 3 for another 10 years. By then at 13, no one had told me of his issues and I was so excited to see my cousins again, especially Ricky. I was hoping he would bring his guitar and play. But there was no guitar… In fact, I had no idea who this strange man was. No one needed to tell me what was going on with him, but it would have been nice if they would have told me before hand to spare me the shock. And the sadness… The Ricky I knew was already gone… He went into rehab several times, dried out, then he’d be right back not long after. When he finally passed several years ago, my mother told my husband and asked him not to tell me because of my mental issues (bipolar, anxiety, a bunch of others) and because I don’t take death well. But my husband didn’t think that was right, so he told me anyway. I didn’t say anything. He asked if I was okay and I said I was, but I don’t think he believed me. I told him, “The Ricky I knew, the one that played guitar for me when I was 3? He didn’t exist anymore. He was replaced by some strange man I didn’t know that I met when I was 13. Besides, with how bad he was, how many times he relapsed, it wasn’t a matter of IF he was going to die, it was WHEN…” I really wasn’t surprised or phased. I felt like a stranger passed away. But I have done one thing since then… I grew up and learned to play the piano (mostly myself, my mom taught me a little) but I’ve wanted to play guitar as well, just like Ricky, since I was 3 and watched him play. I asked for a 12 string (go big or go home) one year for Christmas and began taking lessons. I’m not the greatest yet, but I’m determined. Ricky was like a god of modern guitar at 3. I wanted to follow in his footsteps 😊❤
JUST A LITTLE PSA FOR Y'ALL...... Get yourselves a narcan kit learn how to use it of course, toss it in the trunk of your car, you never know when you might be at a party sometime or even just come up to someone in on the side of the road....it's not a big deal to learn how to use it and to carry one and you just might save someone's life, even if you're not in the drug scene yourself but especially if you are, better to have it not needed than need it not have it
If you leave it in a car it will expire far sooner. A hot vehicle will far exceed the acceptable storage temperature of medications. If the medication becomes ineffective and you inform an ambulance officer that they have received a dose of narcan they will account for that and the person may die because they didn't get what they needed.
I don't like this concept of "this drug is worse than this drug" so that addiction is worse or has worse stigma. Regardless of the addiction, the person deserves help
I think their point is that nobody takes alcoholism as seriously as they should. At 35:30, they literally say that everyone should take every addiction seriously. Also, everyone's experience is going to be different and they make it abundantly clear that this is just their experience. 💗🌸
Well drugs are amoral and people seem to forget that. They think everything has something to do with morality and it's harmful as fuck. Though if we're talking in terms of harm, that can be measured and ACTUALLY proven. For example, crocidyl is a drug that will seriously fuck you up. There are differences in harmfulness.
Agreed! Alcoholism and heroin addiction are both deadly. I have lost close family members to both. The fact that the beginning of this video is practically promoting heroin is disgusting. I really enjoy this channel usually, but I'm unsubscribing.
@@caitiecunningham872 Just because another addict has had a different experience from you doesn’t mean they’re promoting heroine. Dorian has talked a lot about how fucked up their life became because of heroine addiction. I think they were just making the obvious comparison of what people stigmatize heroine use as and alcoholism as. Most people think you’re going to be completely non-functional why experiencing heroine addiction, but in many cases this isn’t true. Many are able to live functional lives why addicted to heroine. No, that isn’t a promotion to take the substance, it’s basically just saying that-for some-it isn’t as crippling as it is for others. (They also mentioned that, why on heroine, they were also on methane, which reduces and completely takes away any withdrawal symptoms you receive from heroine use, which is why they were able to take it so frequently.) They did this to make the comparison that many think you can be a functional alcoholic. Some can. Some can live completely normal lives and no one will ever know, except for the people who have to encounter them. Some people ARE NOT functional in any way, shape, nor form, and that is treated more like you being stupid and irresponsible through choice rather than through addiction. By making this comparison, it highlights the definite stigma around heroine addiction and alcoholism-it isn’t Dorian saying one is better and one is worse, they’re simply making the obvious distinction about what *society* thinks. Not themselves.
I had a family member pass away at 32 years old from alcohol withdraws.. it’s no joke 😕 This was a very informational video, I liked every point you made and I think alcohol is truly the most abused drug and it needs to be taken more seriously. It’s sad how easily it gets slipped under the radar for being the leading cause of deaths by car accidents..
My uncle struggles with alcoholism and when he came forward about it to my Nana, she offered him a drink :| she struggles with drinking too but not as severe as my uncle. Just super insensitive of her. I know it took a lot for my uncle to come forward about how bad it was and for her to do that...
I remember your weight gain & being so worried about you. I’m very familiar with the look of alcoholism & can clock an alcoholic across a room instantly. Alcoholism is drug addiction and it’s just so sad how normalized it is, especially in America. Alcoholism is practically a right of passage for young people here
Alcohol is overly normalised, especially with how deadly it can be! I’ve struggled with both heroin addiction and alcoholism and only one was ever taken seriously (just guess which one)and this was at around 14. Alcoholism needs to be taken just as seriously as heroin and other addictions! Edit: Withdrawals for me were also not taken seriously. With Heroin I got a lot of support and medication however with alcohol I was forced to go cold turkey and almost died which was still taken as a joke and an ‘overreaction’
I hear you girl sounds like a similar road is mine.... Only was crack cocaine for me, but the alcohol is always much worse a problem for me too Damn straight you could have died from withdrawal of alcohol..... I know the detox and rehab centers here in New Brunswick Canada although we've got a pretty terrible meth problem in our community the local detox knows how to treat alcoholism well!!! They're actually the most incredible people in the whole planet.... The staff of the Miramichi detox center are near God like quality to me. I can even call them at any time and I always ask for my favorite nurse and she'll sit and talk with me for hours and they know you and get to know you cuz it's a small town. Best human beings on the planet right there!!!
I've also had people not take my alcohol withdrawal seriously. it's such a terrible experience and everyone acts like "well, that's what ya get!" like what the actual fuck... this is deadly. something that no one told me about is the "kindling effect" which essentially means after you "get" it your withdrawals continue to get worse and worse, even if you find yourself drinking less than before. my last detox lasted a week, up from 3 days 2 years ago, drinking wine not vodka.
I'm so sorry. Alcohol withdrawal is serious, and can be fatal. You can only ingest so much poison before your body starts to break down. My uncle nearly died of dt's (The most severe alcohol withdrawal is called delirium tremens, otherwise known as the DTs. The experience of going through delirium tremens can vary from person to person depending on the duration and frequency of their previous alcohol consumption.) in jail because they didn't take his alcoholism seriously. He also pissed off the guards (he was an asshole) so they mostly just laughed at him. He'd been drinking since he was 5-6. They got addicted before they were even old enough to understand what alcohol or being drunk was.
When I was 14 I watched my grandad at 62 years old (while drunk on his £100 a day habit), fall, have a bleed on the brain and get korsakoff syndrome which is really nasty! He passed away last year after 8 years of not talking, not walking and staring at a wall (+ multiple seizures). It's honestly put me off ever touching alcohol.
It’s interesting to hear this to those less informed. I definitely worry a lot more about a person i know who is a heroin addict than the person i know who is an alcoholic, both are functional and both have jobs. So, it’s true that alcoholism is just not seen as as dangerous by most people. Thank you for this talk.
@@MollTheLioness i thought the deaths were due to fentanyl mixed into heroin these days which makes it a lot more lethal… i am doing a placement at an outpatient treatment center ans we have been hearing of the huge spike in overdoses due to fentanyl being added to practically anything now.
My thesis is actually all about drug related deaths in England and i got on a very similar soapbox at the end. Harm reduction is needed; testing kits, needle exchanges, safe rooms.
I know some functioning heroin addicts (they have careers, play in bands etc). They have been using for about 20-25 years. They have certain rules to keep themselves in check but it hasn’t been too kind to them physically and mentally. One can definitely tell they use - there is a sadness and sunkeness look to their face and eyes. They have expressed they want to quit but it’s so hard. 😢 I think a safe controlled source would be a positive thing for them because there is so much fentanyl in the drugs here. Alcoholism is a scary beast. Luckily no one close to me is struggling with that (as far as I can tell.)
I very much buy into that whole "anti drugs" propaganda taught at school so I don't/haven't done any illegal drugs in my life - but the existence of clean needle exchanges and safe spaces for users and addicts is sooooooooo important! A friend of mine passed away from a heroin OD in 2012 (hearing that the cuts changed really piqued my interest here - I never really got closure after her death) and I really think if only we had access to methadone and safe injection sites it wouldn't have gone the way it did. The outcome of having these services has been proven as incredibly positive - im so sad we cannot see the dignity of intravenous drug users in greater society. Thanks for such an important story and perspective!
If you want to know the real reason why I have a problem with drugs we need to talk about the opium wars nobody thinks that it could be used as a weapon drugs for governments but I can it is a dark and truth and nobody wants to talk about this.
Not to mention how easy it is to relapse BECAUSE of how normalised it is, you try and quit and can’t escape it. Everywhere you go people are drinking alcohol or talking about alcohol. I’ve lost so many friends trying to go sober because thats pretty much the only thing they do to socialise is drink, and yeah I can still go out to clubs and pubs and drink juice but it’s not the same especially when everyone is drunk yelling at you to “just have one” or “don’t be a loser”. I feel like I miss out on so much now because I hate being around those kind of people, but it has really helped my mental health overall and I don’t think I’ll ever go back no matter how tempted I am. But man, it’s hard.
I just found you today ultimately bc of Eugenia's content taking me down a rabbit hole. I've been addicted to alcohol for 15 years and physically dependant for at least 7... I hate every second of it but I can't stop. I'm a stay at home mom whose life revolves around living in my house and taking care of my children. I got pregnant 2 years ago intentionally to be sober but I had twins and fell apart all over again. Idk what to do to stop the triggers. This time last year I was in rehab away from my babies for the first time ever until may and I just don't know how to stop when there is so much propaganda and desire for it 😭
My dad was an alcoholic all my childhood growing up, his dad was also an alcoholic which is why I tend to call addiction a disease. I'm proud to say my dad has been sober from alcohol for TWO years now! It was an awful struggle that I'm glad he has surpassed.
oh my i have been literally thinking about this topic today, love you for spreading awareness about alcohol dangers. coming from slavic country the drinking culture is insane and the problem of abusing liquor highly overlooked
Oh I feel you :( my grandpa died from cirrhosis, my whole slavic family thought it was funny to let me try wine as a child. I think I'm so lucky for not being addicted to alcohol (but surely addicted to sleeping pills... Well...)
Gin is such a glamourized booze for women and in my first two years of uni I started being really dependent on it. I would happily sit down and drink a neat bottle of gin to myself in the evening, wake up feeling awful, extremely depressed, vaguely remember the crazy, embarrassing stuff i'd done the night before and then go out and buy some more. It was an on going joke with my friends that you couldn't leave me in the house with a bottle of anything cause once i'd started i wouldnt be able to stop. I put on the three stone in those two years which I am still yet to loose. I got myself into SOOO many horrible situations and honestly without people looking out for me and general luck, i dont know what could have happened to me. I hardly drink now, and ive had a bottle of champagne in the house since my 21st (year ago) which i dont even think about. I was able to get myself out before things got worse and after some massive substance binges. I recognized that i was far too comfortable getting wrecked by myself at home and i got really invested in my work. I have a pretty grim diet coke habit though :') but im working on that too.
66 days sober. I wasn't an "alcoholic". I was a heavy binge drinker. It almost took my life. I was extremely depressed and the anxiety was terrible. Two months sober and all of that is gone. The reaction from other people has been crazy. I've been called boring and people have told me "if you don't drink, don't even bother coming" I'm a 34 year old... Other 30 + people say things like this. Our culture is obsessed with alcohol.
It's so weird, I've had all those symptoms from when i was an alcoholic and I never even thought they came from the alcohol, I thought I was just messed up. I'm happy I'm not alone in this struggle, thank you for sharing your story, I wish I found your channel earlier. Much love to you ♥️
I wouldn't say I was truly an alcoholic but I've definitely had an alcohol issue. It's the worst drug I've touched for sure. It's so easy to mess up and very potentially die. When I was out with friends it would just be so easy sometimes to drink too much and blackout - acting a fool (nothing too bad luckily). I've said some dumb stuff but the worst episode was me blacking out and just wandering around in the opposite direction of home. I came to and wasn't hurt but sometimes I think to myself something really bad could've happened. I also have a best friend who is an alcoholic and it was really difficult to watch how she would rationalize her drinking and how quickly it all went downhill.
My therapist called this "weekend alcoholic" and I have definitely been there in the past myself. Thankfully I was always in the present of friends or good people in general, who didn't take advantage of my state.
This is the reason I'm terrified of becoming addicted to alcohol so I avoid it. My parents are both alcoholics and I already have an extremely obsessive personality. I have a few sips and I think about it for a month afterward. If someone is an alcoholic you should have the same concern for them as you would with someone using any other highly addictive substance such as Heroin.
I grew up with plenty of alcoholics who always claimed, "I'm a functioning alcoholic" or "I keep it under control." I just always remember thinking "No. You don't. You're plastered." It can be just as bad as anything else but denial changes perspective...
Great video! Considering that alcohol is so statistically dangerous, and that much of heroin's dangers are directly caused by prohibition (no clean product, safe dosage, clean needles=fentanyl and OD, and also being more expensive due to prohibition = more people ruining their and their loved one's finances), I think that if both were legal, heroin would come out as definitely safer. Heroin addicts in ideal conditions (like in some of the countries with legal programmes) don't die of liver failure and cirrhosis. There's no narcan for alcohol poisoning either. Socially, they don't get into bar fights or beat their kids while using; they just go on the nod. I say this as someone who drinks occassionally but won't do opioids, not out of some moral grandstanding bullshit, but because their effects simply don't interest me. Frankly, I like drugs that have an edge to them, like stimulants or psychedelics. For that reason I know exactly which drugs to be wary of (meth). But if I listened to mainstream advice about the subject, I'd be in deep deep trouble, because culture will never be able to think about these things rationally... hell, psychs and cannabis are still illegal. We are so far off from being able to reach true healing and education about this, and so many people are going to die or ruin their lives because of it. Very sad.
I got into more trouble drinking than I ever did on my meth addiction. Crazy thing is that my family would of preferred me to continue drinking alcohol over meth or even weed. For me it was about loosing both of them.
Congratulations on your sobriety - you're a wonderful person and I'm so happy I found your channel by complete chance! :) Thank you for sharing your experiences; I'm sure they will help so so many people
I'm an alcoholic. Over 6 1/2 years sober. I have been watching your channel for about 6 years and I adore you. Congrats on 3 years sober, and thank you for sharing your story ❣️ Edit: Yes, a person can die from alcohol withdrawals!!! Please take detoxing from alcohol seriously, everyone. 💞
I'm coming up on my first month of sobriety recovering from alcohol addiction and I can't tell you how helpful and weirdly comforting this video was. Thank you for making the content you do and being so open with your audience
Thank you so much for speaking out about this!!!!!!!!!!!! I really appreciate you! I've been an opioid addict for 13 years. My heroin experience was very positive as well. Almost identical to yours, except I often had to withdrawal from it which made it hell. But that's only a reality because it's illegal. Opiates keep me off alcohol as well. I have no urge to use or destroy myself when I take heroin. Alcohol made me violent, crazy & suicidal. Always dwelling on negatives & traumas. Now I'm on suboxone (which sucks) & my heroin dealer went to prison. My life has never been the same. And I am now less functional because I do not have heroin. I use to work harder & even cared more about my responsibilities while using heroin. The hypocrisy is insane. So I truly appreciate you speaking out about this topic. Heroin should be legalized.
Uhhh yea being on methadone is exactly why there were no “issues” lol. No withdrawal. No worrying about withdrawal. Anyway interesting topic. Everyone’s experiences are valid and everyone’s experiences are different! It’s a good thing to hear different people’s perspectives bc that’s all life really is. A perspective. 💞 Edit One minute after my comment you said the same thing. Lol I am clean and on methadone now. Definitely would have made life easier to be in it while using but I never even heard of it until I was “done” using and needed a way to put my life back together. Now just have to get off this stuff!
I agree for most of Dorians content. Although this specific video made me a bit upset because they romanticize heroin and that can have very harmful effects. They definitely did not have a typical experience with heroin. But of course I agreed with the part about how bad alcoholism can get and it’s fucked up some people don’t take it seriously
Thank you for all your videos and for making a fellow aspie feel not alone with all her struggles. I’ve battled a lot of things, mostly mental health, and honestly to see someone who I can relate to talking about it makes my bitter, cold heart sing. All the love ❤️
my friend recommended your videos to me and i’m so thankful for them for doing so. thank you for opening my eyes to my own alcoholism and i appreciate you for talking about these issues. it’s hard, but i’m going to try be sober thanks to you! i appreciate you so much :))
Thank you for telling us your story and how both of these drugs played a part in your life. I do struggle though with how heroin is portrayed. I have friends who have lost brothers, sisters, cousins and parents to this drug and I don’t feel like that should be downplayed. I’m so grateful that you’re still here but that’s not everyone’s story.
She stated that throughout the whole video. She even went to the extent of saying that a possible reason why her heroin addiction was not as destructive as the stories you hear from others is because she had a methadone prescription, so I think she made the point that experiences may vary a lot
My mother's alcoholism hugely impacted me and my siblings lives hugely. All three us of have had suicide attempts all of us have mental problems like it was fucked all of us up. My mother to the day denys it wasn't as bad as we say because she doesn't remember most of what happened and its so invalidating.
All addicts forget the impacts their addiction had on other people around them, because addiction is a self centred activity. Few ever apologise to those they’ve caused harm, because their perception is the world revolves around them.
I needed to hear this as someone who’s completely gotten off of heroin for years now but I’m currently trying to taper down on my alcohol so I can quit because I don’t have a community right now. Thank you for posting this.
Honestly I really get you on the shame aspect of it. I’ve felt far more shame due to alcohol than heroin. Like when I wake up after getting absolutely pissed out my mind I feel so much shame because of how easily I lost control. And not even knowing what kinda shit I did or said whilst drunk because I can’t remember really makes me feel ashamed.
These videos help my partner to understand how the alcoholism truly affected me and why the Anna is such a difficult thing. You're truly amazing and a wonderful voice for us who aren't able to articulate our truths about these topics thank you so very much. The road to recovery is like dancing on rusty pins, so thank God there's channel's that feel like others understand.
Even when i drank the bubbly water for the first time since my last drink i used to mix it with, all i could taste was my last hangover from over 3 months ago and i had to mentally convince myself the fizzy water was good to hydrate me and not gag. It's crazy how something i used to mix in my alcohol can be such a powerful reminder to why i shy away from drinking now
I lived with an alcoholic who was also a diehard Juggalo. It's a catastrophic combination. The dealbreaker was the night he "playfully" almost stabbed me with two of my kitchen knives, making me run out the back door. I took him to work the next day and then drove all his belongings to his mother's. I felt for you when you described those miserable sick times and I'm so glad you chose to heal. I'm also glad you never got to the point my ex roommate did.
Would you be able to do a video about eating disorder movies and how it is displayed through media culture vs the reality and the impact it could have on people watching them
Firstly, I respect you taking the time to share your experience of addiction to various substances. It opens up a much needed conversation and destigmatises hard drug use somewhat. I agree with what you’re saying, I think alcohol is more insidious in our culture and I’ve definitely done more fucked up shit from drinking but it also sounds like your experience of being a heroin addict was very different to mine. You seem quite privileged in that respect, that she never had to struggle for money, shoplift, do sex work when you didn’t want to etc. Not calling you out (I hate that pissing contest culture you find in some recovery circles) Just another perspective from someone from seemingly quite a different background to your own .
all drugs should be legal. we need to address the root causes of addiction but that requires radical social change that the system will obviously resist violently. but you're definitely right, it's weird that heroin has so much worse of a reputation when alcohol can be just as bad or worse in many ways
I could never tolerate hair of the dog. I get vicious hangovers and I remember trying a few times but I have no "off" button and I would have to drink for hours (because I was drinking so slowly as the thought of alcohol made me feel like death) and I would reach a point where I wasn't doing hair of the dog, I was just smashed again. Then I got a double hangover that I couldn't sleep away. It was a nightmare. For me my biggest alcohol trigger was music. I would hear a song on tv or youtube or just hear one in my head and straight away my mind went "Iwannadrink" like so fast. And it would keep repeating it until I had one. I would drink 5 litres of cider or a litre of vodka on my own in my bedroom every 3 days at least. And I thought ah it's not a problem because it's "only" every 3 days. When I would drink I wouldn't do anything productive I would just drift away in daydreams listening to music and imagine my life how I wanted it to be. That to me was my escape. And alcohol helped fuel those daydreams so well they were detailed and fun and exciting to me. When I drank with people it started off a good time and then all I wanted to do was dip so I could daydream at home about being beautiful and successful and in love. That's pretty sad. But as a natural loner that was just my vibe and a hella slippery slope I'm glad to be off.
I was just thinking about this this. All the people that were killed from drunk driving, you don't really hear of anyone getting killed from dope driving. People I knew used to shoot up and just lay around and nod off. None of them ever went out driving around.
Interesting video. I think your experiences are very atypical, especially the financial stuff. It's a bit unfair to compare an expensive drink like JD to a heroin habit that's heavily subsidised by methadone. But, yeah, both types of addiction are no joke. Are you aware that long-term use of opioids can/will mess with your endocrine system? They're not as benign in terms of physical health as you might believe. Anyway, I fully support access to pharma heroin for those who need it. In fact, I think all drugs should be legalised, taxed and there should be some sort of knowledge test before you can use them, a bit like a driving licence. Doubt that'll ever happen though for reasons too numerous to list!
Omg I agree they kept saying how heroin didnt effect their health at all but it can definitely have long term effects just as alcohol does, and I doubt any person would have zero negative side effects and health issues after using heroin for months or years (I’m not sure how long they were using)
@@aubreyglenn5340 Yeah, any opioid that's used long-term (including methadone) will cause significant changes in the body. For example, it decreases sex hormone levels in both men and women so often causes loss of libido, decreased muscle tone and lower bone density, especially as the person ages. It's massively underdiagnosed in both addicts and pain patients.
I actually think she made her heroin addiction up. she said she use to shoot up 5-7 times a day which doesn't actually tell me how much she was doing, the amount of heroin in a shot varys alot, also she was using alot of language that makes her sound like an undercover cop lol. But seriously it kinda pisses me off because heroin/fentanyl has ruined my life and I don't have the platform to tell people how bad it is and she is telling everyone it isn't that bad and alcohol was worse
@@mhm6488 It depends on what addiction you got from. If someone was addicted to benzos that person will tell benzos is the worst shit ever. If someone was addicted to heroin that person will say heroin is the worst shit ever. The same goes with alcohol
@@mhm6488 this video has me confused because it is humanly impossible to do that amount of heroin, a hard drug unlike weed or shrooms, for possibly a decade, and to not have dealt with debilitating health issues or symptoms?? I'm a med student so I had to learn how chemicals such as recreative drugs do to our body and what problems could arise from abusing them.
Not too long ago I felt myself slipping into alcoholism. One morning I woke up and felt a seizing pain in my chest and jaw, I happened to be sick from infection and hungover that morning, but the way my health was turning due to alcohol and how aggressive and irritable I became crossed the line. I started counselling, decided to change my degree course and make a concerted effort to be social (setting a limit to only buy / drink alcohol when in the presence of others at a social event). My inability to focus, general irritation, lack of purpose, feelings of worthlessness and isolation was what lead me to drink in the first place. I felt great while drunk and even found it easier to get on with work, focus and do things after a couple drinks. I'm glad it didn't escalate too much, but it did become enough to get me tipsy every night all week.
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i lost my aunt recently to alcoholism and in order to 'honor' her, some of her family and friends took a shot of her favorite drink (fireball) and i know they were trying to cope with the pain of loss but it just feels so so so wrong. imagine shooting up heroin to commemorate someone you lost to heroin, it just feels insanely disrespectful despite the good intentions. thanks for this video -- i wish alcoholism wasn't so demonized/lighthearted and instead treated with more sympathy
Lots of heroin users do just that...and hopefully remind themselves that using alone leads to death. one of the things decriminalisation will lead to is addicts not having to be so secret about their habits. Not that we want it done in public...just that they need a buddy system, quality testing etc. There would be so many less deaths.
@@LusciousTwinkle agreed, alienating addicts is the worst thing to do and i hope one day we can have like. reliable support systems for any kind of addict cuz they need that care desperately
@Null, I was reading this and I thought you were going to state the swore to never drink again.... My hopes were to high and wholesome for this.
@@xXHireneXx im so sorry hahah, i do wish they at least held off drinking for a bit just out of respect for her but , nope....just another excuse to take a shot lol
UGH i have SOOO been there
The availability of alcohol is one of the biggest obstacles. Imagine everytime you went out to eat as a heroin addict you were given a selection of different types of heroin at varying strengths and purities to go with your burger. Alcoholics that manage sobriety have to have more self control than other addicts imo. The fact you can't get a prescription for managed heroin addiction is ridiculous. Hospitals keep booze on site for people so they don't relapse. There's a clear double standard
Heroin is actually as available as booze in my city it's crazy
@Joseph Smith Damn thats rough.
In my country you can't buy it on Sundays, and it closes much earlier on Saturdays... I remember getting super wasted three weeks ago, Saturday, did an all-nighter and wanted more booze. I waited to leave at 9:30 AM so I would be there when it opens at 10 AM, and when I arrive it's closed, cuz it's always closed on Sundays... It actually made my heart sink, and I almost called a friend to ask if he can ''lend'' me some alcohol but then I was like ''wtf am I doing?'' Haven't had a drop since that day.
@@K4inan I don't know you and I don't know enough about problematic alcohol consumption.
I just hope you'll always feel that strength, and I hope you live the life you want to live in the long run!
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I wish all the best to all you strangers on the internet!
It's really tough staying sober from alcohol. It's everywhere, and everyone drinks it.
Alcohol is INSANELY normalized. In such formative years as well. People will drink with their parents at 15. It's acceptable to drink and get drunk. And it's such a dangerous DEADLY addiction. We need to take alcohol a lot more seriously because people think that it's JUST alcohol. Alcohol is a deadly drug. And people need to be careful with it. The fact that it's so available and that it's legal definitely makes people not think of it as a drug as well. People think drugs are bad and taboo. But they're just drugs. Substances that can alter the mind or body. What makes them "bad" is what you do with them.
Wow VERY WELL SAID!!!👏👏👏👏👏
I totally agree! I’m fine with kids drinking with their parents but only when their parents do it as a special occasion and when they make them drink responsibly (I had alcohol at New Years at 17 but I was only allowed 1 drink and I had to wait until I was 20 before my mom allowed any more than that). Some drugs are def more harmful than others but a lot of it boils down to safety and self control etc
Then the issue is that we moralize substances instead of teaching people better. Alcohol is only really a problem when you misuse it.
It's not a bad thing, it is a thing. A thing you need to use responsibly. A thing that can get out of hand if you try to rely on it too much.
These addictions are symptoms of our views on mental health as a society. If people were taught how to live healthy lives MENTALLY from a young age, we would make it less of a "needed" coping mechanism and easier to break a reliance on.
This isn't about good and bad, it's about responsibilities and how frankly we tend to neglect them as a society.
I'm making this distinction because people think banning things works and is the solution, prohibition just makes it worse because it furthers and even tries to justify our neglect.
It should be normal. It's a normal substance. But so should be good mental health care and self discipline.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty yeah I know that's what I said maaaaan.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty people enjoy moralizing things though. I think it helps them feel superior in a way.
"why is this poison so socially acceptable?" --something i ask myself everyday as i get closer and closer to quitting my liquor store job cause seeing the misery and suffering in peoples' eyes is getting to be too much for me
Glad i'm not the only one lol
@Kamil S i dont think anyone is saying heroin is a good thing. Its poison as well, and its a sweet tricky poison, but the way alcohol is normalised in society when it so changes someones personality, and people get weird and aggressiv when it affects others as well as your self (not saying H using doesnt affect others because you need money for it etc) but on alcohol people become evil, on H... Its just a calmness.. Both should be illegal because both are addictive poison, but the double standards about alcohol compared to other drugs are crazy.
it’s also because it has been illegal back in the days but people still drank and they thought the law didn’t change much anyway so why make it illegal
@Kamil S yeah i
every drug should be socially acceptable
my body my choice
I’m an alcoholic, I’ve been sober for 13 months. The way alcohol is promoted is frightening. Thank you for sharing your experience, strength and hope
ur coming up on ur 2 year mark.🙏🏼🌎🕊️
@@mindsigh4 I am 🙏🏼 thank you Carl ❤️
@@rachelw2601 Im an alcoholic and about to be in rehab for 3 months. :( Until then I'll just keep drinking as apparently it's dangerous for me to stop without medication and treatment.
@@noxtinoxti5525 best of luck in rehab 🙏🏼🙏🏼 giving up alcohol was the best thing I ever did
Great work stay strong. Change your whole way of living try to find happiness in the small things in life.the more years of sobriety you get the easier it is eventually you will completely change the way you feel about drinking and will want nothing to do with it you will associate it with all the problems it caused. I've been sober 15 years drank a 5th of vodka + a day for years. Good luck you can do it but it requires a lot of change in your life and thinking.
My family doesn’t understand alcoholism. My aunt is an alcoholic and everyone in our family gets mad at her for the way she acts and how much she drinks. But they enable the fuck out of it. They always bring alcohol to her house, they always drink with her. They just get mad that she can’t control herself. They think she is capable of controlling it and is just unwilling to.
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If you'd bring a rock at my place i sure as hell know i'm going to put it in a spoon. And fast.
That's actually a good comparison now yhat i think about it. How about using that analogy on your family members?
in the A.A.12 step program, step 1 says" we admitted we were powerless over alcohol----that our lives had become unmanageable."
well, i balked at that part "...we were POWERLESS over alcohol..." i didn't like saying i was powerless, i could DECIDE not to drink, or on some days i could just take it easy on the drink, i mean, that's not POWER-LESS, so, to be honest, i realized that it was more accurate to say that "when i drink, at some point, the effects of alcohol were MORE POWERFUL than my will to control the drinking"& so i see it like leverage on a teeter totter, if im 180 lbs, sitting on one side, then it takes more than 180 on the other side to be more powerful (more weight) than me, my will.
so, my new improved, rigorously honest, EDITED step ONE now reads," i admitted i was less powerful than the effects of alcohol"
now, to some people, that may seem like nit-picking or denial, but i think it's important to be rigorously honest with myself, & not to say words that i don't fully mean.
it can be incredibly hard to tell an alcoholic you won't bring them alcohol or won't be around them when they're drinking. you'd think it would be straightforward to set a boundary and stick to it but they bring out the full arsenal of manipulation and guilt trips to make you change your mind. Don't know if that's the case in your family but it's really frustrating to deal with
Alcohol has definitely destroyed more lives/families.
It's WAY more accessible/acceptable. My Mom was a junkie but it was the alcohol that killed her at 52 overall. You name it she shot it. We had money to a fault, really. I just turned 50 yesterday, I smoke weed, that's it.
Herion/oxy also alters your brain (receptors) from the minute you take it.
50,000 deaths per annum in the UK.
For me at least has affected 6 members of my family that i know of from alcohol.... Zero heroin addicts personally
My dad was an alcoholic for as long as I know. He died a year ago from cirrhosis of the liver, not only does it affect physical health but also mental health. We had a complicated relationship because of his addiction, but its very much real and its very much serious. Worst part was he never accepted his addiction
I feel like if heroin was as normalized as alcohol, the opposite would be true. Heroin ravages communities. I’ve never seen alcohol do the same.
As a pharmacist who's struggled with addiction myself, I completely support the legalisation and regulation of drugs. The idea that substance dependence is something that can be "fixed", with a goal of no substance use completely, is hurting more people than it's helping.
I agree. Also sending people to jail for drug use is barbaric too. They’d be better sent to detox and rehab than jail/prison. Ugh. It’s ludicrous.
@@BreezyBlank exactly. addiction is a medical condition, not a crime
It is the same with sex education, stop preaching abstinence
I so agree i hope i can happen soon
Absolutely true!In Germany it is possible since 2003 to get heroine as a medicine for people who are addicted (after you examined by doctors and psychologists because they want to avoid that non addicted people come into the program).And the majority of the people became healthier and looked much better. I was one of the first addicts who came into the program (I used methadone before but it didn't work, I don't like it).For me it was a good experience.
To any former alcoholics out there, don't let yourself get into a false sense of security. The way she talks about how she views alcohol now is exactly how I felt for years. When I got sober even the smell of alcohol made me, no joke, heave. For around 3-4 years I thought I was completely done with alcohol. Maybe every once in a while I thought about it, but that was immediately overshadowed by all of the times that shit nearly killed me. All the times in hospital. All the times in rehab. I thought there was no way I would ever touch it again. Then, I experienced one of the worst losses of my life. Now I drink even more than I did many years ago. It's ironic, I used to say I did it because I was just "young and stupid", yet here I am again. My point is, don't let your guard down, as it were. Because that's the moment your world will change.
Hang in there, reach out for help. The world is better with you in it.
Dorian's pronouns are he/they for future reference
I hope you're able to get well again. You're worth it!
Khoros-Mythos: Try naltrexone injections. They are miraculous. It takes addiction out of the equation.
Thank you so much for sharing. I am six years sober and feel that same lack of desire/borderline disgust for alcohol.
I am considering dating someone new and wondered at the back of my mind, “could I have the occasional drink with them since alcohol “has lost its power” over me?” Your words shut those thoughts right down.
Please know that there’s always a way back. It’s taken me a long time and many tries to break my various cycles of addiction. You will find your way out of this. ❤
My ex boyfriend is a recovering alcoholic and the nights I couldn’t find him were some of the scariest. It is a drug we just forget because it’s so accessible.
The fact that alcohol is so normalised makes it hard for alcoholics to recognise when it's a problem too, especially if they're around others who are also heavy drinkers. Thanks for such an insightful video.
@Kamil S literally no, there’s plenty of heroine “recreational users” just like their are plenty of alcohol users who are only recreational. Not al heroine users are addicts, just like all alcohol users are alcoholics, but alcoholism is a normalised issue, I’ve had friends tell me they have issues and most other people shut them down saying it’s normal, when it’s not. It’s so hard for them to get help because unless you’re doing a shot of vodka when you wake up, people don’t think you need help. There’s a spectrum of addiction, not everyone is a daily user, some just can’t control themselves when they start.
@@guyrose2350 That is really rare people that do that or people that don't have addicted personality I've been around all kinds of drugs And I could tell you there are more people that can drink just every weekend compared to somebody that uses heroin That would be said something like cocaine or math there is more people that can do that occasionally without getting super addicted Most People that are alcoholics or people that drink all the time Most at a time have anxiety or depression So they self medicate But people that just like to drink occasionally can go days those days without drinking You're acting like if you just had a few drinks on a Saturday that you're alcoholic lmfao
Especially for women, especially especially for older/ parenting age women. This has been happening since the 50s when women were encouraged to drink to get through the day and through sex, to now when they are told to drink “mommy juice” in order to get through parenting. These all stem from the fact that being a wife or mother can be extremely isolating, especially in the US where homes are single family and single generation. Independence is also romanticized but can quickly turn to isolation when you don’t have a support system or close relationships outside your family
The alcoholics in my life who have gotten treatment have had their lives enriched just by the fact that they are forced to go hang out with people they have a bunch in common with at least once a week
probably the scariest thing is that if you want, you can get addicted to anything. hunger, excercise, internet, alcohol, drugs.
every illness is valid, so is every addiction.
I am glad, You are still around, Dorian.
Wishing You all the best and more years in staying sober.
Sending a virtual hug to You from Poland.
But just because it's valid doesn't make you an immoral or moral person.
You're ability to be a good or bad person doesn't ride on these factors, which I think is another discussion we need to have as a society.
That these topics and problems are *amoral.*
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I agree that the stigma is not really helping the ones who are seeking help in coping and overcoming addictions.
The fact you seek help should not make you someone you are not.
I just asked for her name, its amazing thats Dorian, it was meant for my baby, bt last week I changed it. Now he is 5 years old Dominik.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty That's a weird thing to say... What do you mean with "these topics are amoral"? We're talking about addictions, addictions have to do with obsessive human behaviors... And human behaviors can be morally questioned. Now, I'm not saying "all addicts are bad people", I don't believe that. I think it's far more complicated, and also, it's hard to classify people as "good" or "bad", because we all do good and bad things and our intentions and circumstances behind the same actions also vary a lot.
Anyways, what do you mean with "amoral"??
@@lobaetoile8440 the action of taking or not taking a drug isn't moral or immoral. And the substance it's self isn't immoral or moral.
Neither make you a better person or a worse person. And the substance isn't good or evil, it's just that substance.
Whether or not you're a good person relies on other factors and the substance can be used for both good and evil.
So drugs aren't bad but abusing them is and being someone who took/tried that drug doesn't make you bad, how you treat others on or off of them would.
So the drugs *themselves* are amoral, as in lacking inherently morality. It's what you do with them that's good or bad. And using them isn't inherently one way or the other.
Like making medicine or drugging someone. One's good the other is bad, not because drugs were involved but because of what you did with them.
(And btw that was a good question, I've been dealing with people much less polite and much less interested in discussion than you blowing up my inbox with hate comments. So this was more appreciated than you'll probably ever know ☺️)
I grew up around family members who did harder drugs like meth and heroin and I feel like my childhood was much nicer than some of my friends who grew up around alcoholics, and that sounds crazy to say because of societal ideas of alcohol
wow,, how would you describe growing up like this? also sorry I don't wanna be nosy,, i just saw this kind of statement for the first time so if you don't feel comfortable its totally cool!
A lot of alcoholics are sooo angry. It’s a very dangerous dangerous addiction.
@@ipek2556 the people partaking were very self involved and I spent a lot of my childhood with different family members to try and shelter me from it. But even if they were out of it or jittery, they still loved me and tried to care for me the best they could. Alternatively, I’ve seen many alcoholics have anger streaks or get very emotional, which is a lot more affecting. For the most part the bad part for me was emotional distance instead of being in a more, what I would call “abusive” relationship with the people.
my mom is alcoholic and it was a nightmare, i still to this day like heroin energy more, its more peaceful,alcohol is dark and awful IMO
@@carolinefake9920 definitely! Im recovering from booze addiction and I was a super angry drunk. I'm not an angry person sober at all and how I acted was not actually (despite the common saying) true to how I felt. It really did feel like Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde. Alcohol can be terrifying.
Bro, I went out the other night to party with some friends. One of my friends kept trying to peer pressure me and my other friend (former alcoholic) to take shots with him. I told him no like 3 times, finally I said I was sober and never wanna touch that stuff again, he blew it off as a joke and kept asking for us to take shots with him. It really blew my mind that he didn't stop urging after I mentioned that me and my other friend were sober. It was like he didn't take our addiction and all the struggles we had because of the addiction seriously. Like being an addicted to alcohol is a joke.
I hope you realize that that is not really your friend , if he was, he would not pressure you in the beginning to take a drink. I think you need to reevaluate that friendship and let him go.
You are the only content creator I have found that is talking about addiction and eating disorders. I struggle with both. I have been clean for years but the eating disorder started before and is definately present in the back of my mind. It's nice to see people who have recovered.
I, too, am recovering from both & appreciate this place. I’ve been substance-sober, but the ED was there first & it’s the most difficult…gotta eat every day, after all 😓
My uncle who was a life long heroine addict recently passed away. The job of clearing out his house was put onto my brother and I, which was oddly exciting because I'd regrettably not really known him that well as an adult. His house was absolutely packed, and we found a lot of weird stuff. One of the most interesting things we found was a book/essay he'd written on his old typewriter about how prescription heroine is the only way to solve "the heroine problem." I read the whole thing and completely agreed with everything he'd written. Sadly, the next thing I found was a brief case completely full of rejection letters from every newspaper, magazine and TV news show stating that it was not a topic they were willing to cover.
i know this is a comment that's well over a year old, but i think that it'd be interesting if you manage to post it online, even if it's just a link on a tweet to a google doc with scans of his essay. i hope you and your family are doing well nowadays after the loss of your uncle
You could publish it in his honor and maybe use a portion/entirety of each sale to donate a charity that helps with heroin addiction. It could be really powerful. Hope you’re doing ok! :)
Publish posthumously ❤
People think it’s weird that I DON’T drink. Like, I’ve been made fun of for not wanting to drink. It’s insanely normalized.
I'm a light drinker (one or two drinks every 3 months? maybe?) and its because I saw my dad pound 40-50 cans per weekend before driving to work during the week (he never drove drunk, he just worked in a different part of the UK so he'd use the weekends when he was home to "catch up" on his drink) and suffer diabetes type 2 because of it as well as being a short tempered prick at times. He and my mum would have shouting matches all the time, there was infidelity, it was nasty. He doesnt drink as much anymore since mum died.
But because of this I drink very lightly. I had a friend in uni who was teatotal and didn't drink at all because of a similar but more extreme issue, and when we went out on nights out or for dinner with friends she'd get *hounded* for not drinking as if her not drinking was making other people not have fun? It was disgusting. I had to back her up a ton and tell people off so many times and I'd usually do it in a joking way so their already-drunk-ass wouldn't get violent or anything towards us sober girls.
I just wanted to scream at them like, "If someone not partaking in your drug of choice makes you upset mate, maybe you're the one with a problem?" Afterall, insecurity speaks loud. Like how some people judge others by how they look and gossip because they themselves are insecure and think other people are doing the same to them.
You do you Sileena
I don't know if this will help you but my sis has never drunk alcohol because her stepfather drank and she wanted to be nothing like him, but her 'drink of choice' was orange jiuce with ONE ice cube. That was her thing, and that one ice cube totally took people's attention away from the lack of alcohol. It's worth a try.
same, gets annoying having to say "no" 11 times because an entire group of people won't give up on trying to persuade you to drink. Saying its because of my meds doesn't help either. Had someone offer me 5 bucks to drink after I told them that. (i dont meet or talk to anyone anymore so its not a problem now)
I rarely drink, I don't even like the taste of alcohol.. and people think it's absurd or impossible not to drink it. Unfortunately it's considered a good way to socialise.
Its good you dont. Alcohol is poison.
My dad has been an alcoholic my entire life. He isn't a mean drunk or anything, and tries his hardest to not drink, but it was really difficult growing up. As an adult, you realize your parents aren't superheroes and they have their own demons. It's dangerous how desensitized society is to alcohol/alcoholism in general.
It’s truly a disease. So sad that people can’t see that and blame that person.
@@decomposingdiamond7355 yessss even speaking for myself who has a normal relationship with alcohol, if I was to go to a party and NOT drink then at least one person would try to pressure me to drink. Not to be mean, but just to party. However, if the same thing was to happen, except this time with drugs and I said no, then no one would likely press the issue. I'm sorry you had to experience alcoholism in your family. It's really tough, and should be taken much more seriously by society.
I thought I was the only one with a drunk father that is not necessarily mean. He is a good person on the inside. But his addiction is taking the best of him. I'm sending you support and good vibes.
I just need to write this: your experiences are and were valid as fuck. Totally. But they are anecdotal. And I’ve seen the reverse. I’ve seen alcoholics who are more or less functional. I’ve seen heroin nearly kill one friend and killing another friend.
I'm sorry to hear that :(
I smell environment and genetics in play. I think addiction is more complex then people give it credit. I think preferences involved, too.
Agreed that they're anecdotal. This is the first time I've heard someone being an heroin addict who was functional and their overall experience was positive.
@@thetinglessasmrtist The problem is they make it into a black and white situation and that’s exactly what causes more problems and leads to more drug addiction down the road that’s why I’m not a big fan of making it mythical as far as crime and stuff though there are some things that should be an absolute no, but drugs are a little more complex than just being addicted.
I cried as soon as you mentioned seizures. At the peak of my alcoholism I would be having seizures at work or on public transport once or twice a month and I was in complete denial about it being tied to my drinking. These seizures nearly ruined my life, and I have a long term shoulder problem as a result. Thank you for highlighting this issue that isn’t talked about enough!!
Me too. Had a seizure at work once. Lost my job bc of it.
Thats when I first realized I really need to stop with this stupid alcohol shit lol
Whenever I tell someone that I don't drink the reaction is always insinuating that there is something wrong with me. If we are having a get together with some colleagues there is always pressure to drink (I just bring my own non alcoholic drinks.) What the fuck is wrong with people? Alcohol is literally poison, no matter how many times I explain that it hurts my sensitive stomach people brush it off and insist I drink.
Frankly?
It's an experience much like something like sex where a majority of people like it. It can bring people closer together and can make thing more fun.
And yes while it can be dangerous if you do so responsibly then those are minimized/negated. Most people just aren't educated well enough on what "safe" is.
And also, it doesn't help that with the way you worded it you sound rather narrow minded about it. Like you're the kind of person whose never tried it and heard one bad thing and just decided it was "poison".
Anything is a poison in large enough dose. And it doesn't really matter even if you have tried it before, because of how you express yourself about it. When you wall yourself off from others tonally they're going to try and get you to let them in.
So rather than coming up with excuses or being dismissive, you need to open up a bit and say what REALLY hold you back. And if you haven't tried it, you should. (* As in, this is a way to understand the "hype" better and yourself better through your reaction not just because someone told you to.)
It's not really something you can explain, no book or person is ever going to be able to tell you how that feels for you.
You may find that it doesn't even affect you in normal dosages. Making it pointless to fear.
And if you have then explain that you've tried it, you just don't like whatever it is you didn't like about it. And also avoid situations and people involving alcohol because if you don't like to drink I HIGHLY doubt you like drunk people.
Either way, you should change your tone and mindset to sound and be more open minded and experienced.
When you admit you literally don't know why others like some thing, they're going to try and show you. Especially when you're this adversarial about it.
Like it or not, this is how it is. And I'm not going to fight with you and "change your mind", I'm just answering your question.
If you have more, feel free to ask.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty Or maybe people should just respect other people’s preferences?
I always get the same reaction! Here where I live alcohol is almost always a must at gatherings of all sorts and as a person who doesn't drink I always get so many comments about it. It's honestly extremely annoying, no matter how much people would force me into drinking I always refuse and because of it I was seen as a fun killer which is just ridiculous. Some people I know even were betting on who will finally make me drink lol
@@SavvyNitro Yeah, lmao- I don’t drink and I will never drink because alcohol isn’t just something worth starting for me due to all my health problems. I don’t have to have a good reason to not want to drink anyways- just saying “no thanks” should be a good enough answer to people. I’m just lucky that I’m still underage in my country- or people would be pushy about it. Alcohol is a drug and it complicates things that I would rather just not be complicated in the first place.
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty No....no. It's really up to them, if they don't feel like they like it then what's the point..?
'Oh- you don't like sex?? Well everyone else does, so maybe you should just try it even though you have no compulsion to.'
Nah.
Alcoholism is a truly evil disease. Dorian, I’m so so grateful you’re still with us, you have no idea
As someone who lost my mother to alcoholism, seeing alcoholism being treated like a joke is really hurtful. Thank you for discussing this.
Congrats on 3 years sober!! 🎉🎉🌟 In America in the early 90s, when my mom was in residency (to be a doctor), apparently they could prescribe a beer for alcoholics when they were concerned about seizures/death, but they stopped BECAUSE OF THE OPTICS. People are literally dying from withdrawal bc hospitals don't want to look bad.
how ironic cause wouldn’t they look better if less people died in their beds??
They still provide alcohol to people with withdrawals in hospitals. Maybe not all of them, but this is still very common practice as it's pretty much the only way to help an alcoholic in withdrawal. It's not like cigarettes, you cannot quit alcohol cold turkey or you can die. My ex was in the hospital with DT's and they gave her beer.
@@TheGrandGamers its funny you can quit painkillers/opiates/literal heroin cold turkey and be perfectly fine (you'll just want it really bad and feel uncomftrouble without it) but there are no negative health effects and you definitely won't die. Meanwhile quit alchohol cold turkey and you will die.
crazy
@@TheGrandGamers they don't give alcohol, they give benzos
@@TheGrandGamers maybe in some countries. In Austria and Italy they're ahead in pharmacological treatment of alcohol withdrawal, they don't prescribe or give alcohol
You're so lucky that your heroin addiction was as functional and..... positive? I suppose.....
I come from a tough background and I started when I was 12. I'm almost 26 and it's the worst it's ever been. Like $500 a day.
I know a lot of people who got sick from heroin cut with morphine (gives you the worst itchy pins and needles feeling too), or heroin cut with benzos.
Methadone while still using can save lives honestly, because getting sick is what makes you go nuts and lose everything.
That's some harm minimisation right there!
Actually MANY people die while using meth because its so strong. Its way more addictive than heroin (try a month short term withdrawals rather than a week and a year of long term withdrawals rather than a month). Its expensive and people still use heroin while on it...making it harder to gauge how close you are to ODing. Heroin is cheaper and addicts should just be prescribed it.
@@LusciousTwinkle are you talking about methadone or methamphetamine?
@@toesrus9852 What do you think?
@@LusciousTwinkle I agree, I wrote another comment saying prescription heroin should definitely be a thing. FYI I'm on methadone, I know how bad it sucks, but it did help me out of homelessness because I didn't need to focus on staying well constantly.
the way people romanticize alcohol abuse as something that only the cool kids do while demonizing hard drug usage doesn't sit right with me. if you're going to shit on one, shit on the other as well.
I agree! In one way I felt like Dorian did the opposite and that’s very harmful as well. She did not have a typical experience with heroin at all
Exactly, keep the same energy, people are dying because of both and addiction isn’t fun or quirky & edgy.
not like alcohol isnt hard drug lol
You described alcoholism beautifully. It truly is a horrific existence. I have 20 years sober. Congrats on yours.
I’m proud of you
I'm a young early-stage alcoholic from a family of alcoholics. I just relapsed last night. thank you for this video.
Hope you're better now and staying sober. Or if you're at low, I'm sure it'll get better soon :) Keep the good people around you and take care of your physical and mental health. Eat healthy, pet animals, talk to loved ones, go out on a walk whenever you can. I'm sure you can do it! Much love to you :)
Healing isn’t linear. You’re doing a great job
Svck4L be aware protect yourself gvng
Stay strong buddy!
Do you like weed ? Because my number one Tipp would be to replace your addiction with a weed addiction which won't ruin you that much
The way she speaks… she has so much self awareness. Her comprehensive knowledge about the subject would make her an amazing therapist
Yeah you're heroin experience is definitely NOT a typical. I have no veins left, had constant infections, and robbed my own mother to not be sick. So yeah, typical junkies are not a pretty picture.
Yeah I’ve had many friends / acquaintances die of heroin overdoes..... It’s extremely destructive for most people in every way. Her experience was an aberration. Glad she is okay and can live to tell her story.🖤
BTW I hope you are doing okay also!!💙
@@CaveWomen88 I am great, actually. 3 years and almost 4 months with no heroin. I'm 41, but finally got my shit together!
@@christineschaefer8216 That is fantastic 😌🖤 💪🏼
i have never injected in nearly 20 years and never robbed anyone. I came to my heroin use late....and I knew what I was getting into. i dont think typical junkies exist. The problem is that those who are young and not so organised get into trouble with the law and those are the ones we hear about mostly. How many professionals go home and use? We dont know.
About the joke gifts, I’m an active alcoholic and my Christmas gifts from my sister were a bottle of wine and a bottle of gin.
My boyfriend is recovering rn, but a lot of his Christmas and birthday gifts have been alcohol related in the past few years. Bottle of vodka, brewery passport, bottle of whiskey, moscow mule cups, etc. Confusing as well, bc a couple of these came from his mom, who is a former alcoholic herself. Drinking is made to be so normal but these kinds of things can do a lot of harm and I think people just choose not to see it
Wow that's crazy ! Both of your guys stories.. People just don't get it. .I'm sure they mean well ,they probably just didn't know what to buy for gift for them and the first thought was oh well he likes to drink,let's get a drink related gift! Not noticing that the word likes, is not valid atm ,no one enjoys being addicted to alcohol or anything really. .unless it's in the beginning and they have a long way to go. .
@@tri-angel my roommate´s mom also is an alcoholic who literally drank herself disabled and she gifted a bottle of rum to roommate when she was 17 and asked a few days later why she hasn´t drunk it yet... wtf
You're like that cool relative that has a ton of stories and says "don't do this, kids, but do you want to hear a story?"
I do agree with you that alcohol is insanely normalized, and I thought it was just only in Spain, but apparently not. I was never an alcoholic, but I kinda decided to not drink at all a few years ago (I really despise the taste), and whenever I go out with friends, everyone is like "you don't drink? Why? Are you sick?" and things like that. I just don't understand why people can't respect that you don't drink.
@@BeatriceFlowers Yeah! I've had people tell me that they don't know how to have fun without drinking, and I think that's a big problem.
Its def like that here in the US. I know a lot of people in addiction recovery from a variety of substances, but alcoholics have a really rough time because everyone wants to go to the bar or have a party at home. If you don't drink you either get left out, or harassed. Its bs.
@@electricfishfan very true. And it's so ingrained that most people don't even realize what they're doing, I think. It bothers me that my sober addict friends have to struggle so much to get sober, than all the push back from ignorant people. I do drink and smoke sometimes (though the latter is more for medical reasons.), its not that hard to abstain for a little while for their health and safety. If you can't go a day or a few hours without drinking, might be a good time to reflect on your own drinking.
Cool? Nothing about any of this is cool, all my dead friends thought they were the cool uncle/aunty
@@jemimahkendall6579 I wasn't talking about the stories when I said cool, but about Dorian. I honestly think they're one of the coolest persons on this platform (aesthetic and personality wise).
Sorry if my comment offended you, it was not my intention to make anyone feel uncomfortable.
I’ve been addicted to both, I had to do horrendos things to fund my heroin addiction otherwise I would be violently ill but I also had to do those same things to fund my alcohol addiction otherwise I would end up having a seizure and could possibly die. Not a lot of people know this but alcohol and benzo withdrawals are the only two that can actually kill you. Alcohol addiction is on the same playing field as heroin addiction in my eyes, they’re both serious and they both require professional help, I’ve been clean 3 years in August by the Grace of my God ❤️
Well done on your recovery! That's excellent 😊
@@craigg5410 thank you 😄😄
@@baxterbunch I cold turkeyed from morphine last year and it was one of the most frightening things I've ever endured. Opiate withdrawal attacks you in all ways. People just cannot begin to comprehend the total horror. The worst part is the psychological part in my opinion. But the physical part is horrific too. I still have to take morphine and tramadol for a degenerative back condition but now I only use it 3 days a week to avoid addiction. My tolerance and use had escalated to incredible amounts. I was weaning off for 7 months which was hell and in the end I just cold turkeyed because I couldnt handle it anymore. So I empathise. Again well done ❤
@@craigg5410 been there but not by choice. That’s it’s own special type of nightmare. Losing 70 pounds and introducing medical marijuana allowed me to reduce my morphine intake massively. Just don’t end up in Florida when you’re in between pain management clinics. 🫵🏻
My ex stepmoms grandfather died in our house when I was 10 because he got so sick he had to quit drinking and ended up passing away in my ex step brothers room
Absolutely. I was watching a home-makeover show where they had installed a wine cooler and beer tap and I just thought how odd that was...to fill their home with "paraphernalia" like that. This substance is so accepted and embraced yet it wreaks just as much havoc as many other illicit drug. We have decades of backward thinking to undo.
My tolerance on heroin went up extremely fast when I started shooting. When I was smoking I could get by on $20-30 a day plus $10-20 for meth, because I had that addiction too. As soon as I started on the needle, I was soon shooting $100+ a day just on heroin, meth stayed about the same maybe $50 (you get a lot of meth for $50 vs $10) and I was homeless too. So glad to be sober sitting in my bed right now with a full stomach and a clear mind. When I was an alcoholic it was much cheaper for me personally, but that's intresting you found it cheaper to be a heroin addict.
You Quit both?
@@goneburnforher yeah I'm on suboxone at the moment, have been for about 2 years.
@@goneburnforher I would love do do that but I got drug induced psychosis from amphetamines almost got permafried...
@@goneburnforher whatever works for you tho!
@@Sophia-wz9qf na, Mine want really drin inintroduced
As someone who struggles with an eating disorder and was slipping into a drinking/drug problem (two weeks sober) your videos really help. I can’t thank you enough for sharing your experience
Hey, I’m two weeks sober too! Congrats, keep at it ❤️
Congrats on 2 weeks sober!!!
@@brittney6463 congrats to you too!!!! Keep at it, you can do it! Relapse happens, just get back on the wagon!
Haven't gone sober yet on alcohol but you got this alright? You might get those temptations but take it day by day and don't beat yourself up. Two weeks is amazing! Keep doing you love ♥️
@@BreezyBlank you better still be clean I’m coming back to check on you
I'm gonna say this cause I really can't get past it. I know you said towards the end that you think all addictions should be taken seriously and you aren't telling anyone to do heroin, so I'm not putting this on you. But as a person from a US city where you can't go to the heart of the city without seeing hundreds of addicts either in groups of 5-10 walking around nodding off simultaneously, or together on the side of gas station on the floor completely out of it, or hearing that kids are finding dirty needles on play grounds more than ever, and seeing a rise in homelessness in my city due to this unfortunate rise in opiate addiction, PLEASE be fucking careful because not everyone will be able to manage opiates as well as Dorian. And all of this ^ started only in the past few years, I'm assuming due to the introduction of fentanyl. I've had to stop a woman from falling on train tracks cause she kept zoning out. I've had to pick up a woman's belongings 5+ times on a bus ride cause she kept dropping her purse (and I did it gladly each time because everyone deserves grace). It's every fucking where in my city and I don't blame these folks. A lot of this is my city not taking the proper measures to assure these folks a methadone clinic and shelters that could help them, and giving out opiates like candy in hospitals.
My point is to say, don't take either of these substances lightly (again I know Dorian said this, just reiterating) because not everyone can emotional handle being so responsible with heroin, and ESPECIALLY with drugs that hook on to you, even after years of sobriety. Just how Dorian's alcohol addiction started off seemingly innocent and spiraling out of control, the same could happen to anyone with ANYTHING. And ESPECIALLY opiates, with the rise of fentanyl cuts all over America. It's fucking terrible to witness. This epidemic particularly in the states has traumatized the fuck outta me, so I say all this purely out of genuine care for you all. Please do not take either of these substances lightly.
And just to add, I hate that instead of getting these people help they just through them into another traumatic situation aka jail and prison. And I'm glad you mentioned the experiments they did before the war on drugs, it'd be nice now if they did SOMETHING helpful, like seriously.
👏
Fentanyl isn't increasing addiction, just fatalities.
@@ferrisbueller9991 thank you for letting me know. I only mentioned it because I was watching a couple interviews of folks, and they mentioned that fentanyl felt harder to kick than anything else they did. Appreciate your comment though 🙏🏾
I'm in the states as well. Charlotte NC since 2014 and Orlando prior to that. I appreciate you saying what I wanted to say but couldn't word it as well. What major city are you in? Simply curious, so no need to answer if you don't want. Blessings
The problem is America's policy on opiate use. If it wasn't black market and wasn't stigmatized a lot of the problems you describe would disappear. I say this as someone living in the heart of the rust belt who was so hard hit by the opiate epidemic that oprah came to the area for a show. I lost a lot of friends I wouldn't have lost of they could have copped their drug legally with assurances of its purity and dosage.
Lost my dad to alcoholism. I lost him three times, actually. Once when we had to move away from him, once when he couldn't live with himself and went to live abroad homeless, and the final time when he finally killed himself with it, developing incurable throat cancer that took away all his teeth, his ability to speak and finally his ability to eat. He was 48 when he died, 2 weeks after I had seen and hugged him for the last time and told him I would visit again. He never knew he wouldn't make it but all the doctors did and never told him.
I managed to stay sober for 14 months from alcohol, but I have severe chronic pain that makes me want to end my life everyday. September 14th of 2021 a close lifelong friend of mine took his own life. A week later I relapsed and haven't even wanted to stop since then. My mother is very supportive of me, but literally nobody else around me understands how serious this addiction is. I appreciate your video so much, thank you seriously.
I struggle with chronic debilitating pain as well. That's what kept me going back to heroin over and over again. Suboxone was a game changer for me because it helps my pain & I don't feel high and it contains an opiate blocker to prevent you from being able to get high.
Addiction as a whole is a symptom, - the drug is interchangeable.
Yeah.. I've gone from iv heroin to alcohol
Some of us addicts do not change from drug to drug, I have been taking pain pills since I was 15 and never once tried heroin.
@@deannalawley53 yeah wait till you get cut off. I guarantee if you went through bad enough withdrawal and heroin was put in front of you, you'd rip a fat line with barely any hesitation, it any at all.
@@LILREMAlNS cut off from what? I've been using since I was 15 I'm 40 now I've gone through withdrawal plenty of times and not once tried herion. So I don't understand your comment.also I started recovery in July
We are all addicts - to serotonin, oxytocin etc. And without that addiction we would literally die as there would be no incentive to eat or drink or even get out of bed. It's all a case of what we get addicted to - gambling, extreme sports, sex, shoplifting, etc. So many options! Trying to get addicted to healthy stuff now like sports.
This video somewhat downplays the dangers of heroin use. Alcohol addiction is definitely dangerous, but I don’t think it’s worth weighing one type of substance abuse against another especially since different substances have different impacts on different people. Best to stay sober if you have an addictive personality or are in a rough spot with your mental health.
She's not downplaying things she talked about going to a hospital. She's just very functional. Last year I literally died in a car accident after drinking wine. I switched to suboxone after taking opiates to manage pain from the accident and I've had no problems. Some people have no problems ever with alcohol, some people die. Same thing with drugs, and for some reason when someone can't handle drugs people trip out but when someone dies on alcohol people just roll their eyes.
I have known DXM addicts that have died of "misadventure" and or overestimating their coping skills. These kids doing Diphe challenge concerns me greatly.
@@michaelchitwood389 Did you see this?(Chubbyemu video on TikTokker that drank 2 bottles of Benadryl):
th-cam.com/video/NaAFOrudj0g/w-d-xo.html
In my home country most violent crimes are done by drunk people (assaults and murders) Almost always when you hear that someone has killed someone you will find out that they did it while being drunk. When someone dares to point that out they will be met with hostility and stupid ignorant claims that cannabis is more dangerous or something. There has even been a research that basically said that my countrie's people, especially the men are more sucseptible to violence when intoxicated. My father for example had to quit drinking in his twenties because he would constantly beat people up for silly reasons, like someone asking what time it is. There are a lot of alcoholism in my country (has been since like from year 1500) but many people here deny it and think that anyone who doesn't drink is extremely weird and doesn't like fun. It's really childish attitude and I absolutely hate it.
I can't help but wonder, have you ever been addicted to anything like heroin? Probably not.
My father was (is not an active user anymore) a severe alcoholic. My whole childhood was centered around his addiction, his anger, physical, sexual and psychological abuse. Guess what? I now suffer from C-PTSD, bulimia, depression and anxiety with severe panic attacks. Alcohol is far too normalised and it can absolutely ruin people's lives.
I’m sorry that you experienced that❤️ hope you’re healing
Experienced the same except the sexual abuse,it was horrible growing up with him. I basically lived at my friends house cause I never wanted to be home. He died from it and also had my issues with it growing up,but I’m doing so much better now.
Find bat man
Absolutely vile that these creatures get to reproduce. Sorry
Same here and I am so sorry absolutely nobody deserves that and I hope you’re staying grounded as possible now
I sincerely think I have an “easy addition personality” that’s why I never drink alcohol or use other drugs, I know I wouldn’t be strong enough to control the use.
Totally agree that we live in a society where alcohol isn’t take seriously.
Same man, and I'd advice you to never even try it. I thought well I won't touch it, but just to not be interested anymore I could use drugs once. And as soon as I crossed the line, the line disappeared.
I am 17 and almost had a heart attack from alcohol. I don't drink on regular basis thankfully, but I see myself drawn to it wayyy to much. And if I do, I just can't see my limits. My third time drinking alcohol I had two glasses of Vodca, one Tequila and started drinking a little bit of everything that my friends had ordered. I absolutely have no limits.
Now that I look back, I remember that my friends weren't as excited as going to the bar as I was. Starting from the morning I was only fantasizing how the night would be, while they enjoyed the shopping and eating during daytime. I wondered why that was, but now I understand.
Sorry, I just wanted to go into detail so you or anyone who has an addictive personality truly understands how you should not even taste drugs any bit.
im the same. i was like this good mindset you have for most of my life.. but eventually, it got me during a low pt in my life in an enabling industry (restaurant/bar). i wish i never touched alcohol or nicotine. sooo hard to quit. 😢
Been addicted to basically every drug, under the sun, and managed to stop them. Alcohol is so difficult, it’s everywhere and socially acceptable. Despite making me physically and mentally the sickest! Over a year and a half year sober from other drugs but alcohol just 9 days. 😔 Thank you for this video! People really don’t know how damaging alcohol is, definitely worse than heroin for me too. 🙏🏻
I was addicted to alcohol when I was 16-19 and everyone just laughed it off like it isn’t a serious illness, I know exactly what you mean. It was always ha ha classic sky drunk at 10am again !! And never any real concern. Sad
Me too, it's a horrid feeling:(
How did u overcome it girl please ley me know i too am suffering from it
@@versatilehumanbeing6013 tbh I still struggle with it, but being around people who support me and aren’t only around me to drink and go to parties has helped a lot. The people I surround myself with now are much better for me. It just took a whole lifestyle change, but I still drink, just not to the extent to which I used to
@@sky-sb5jp Thats gud dear surrounding urself with people who have gud mindset will help u come out of it i am doing the same thing are u on instagram ?
Alcohol is so destructive, yet legal but weed is demonized......laws are very strange indeed
Weed is glamorized by many young people
@@Audreylover-dv5cl I know, but it's not glamorized by the law apparently lol
@@Audreylover-dv5cl by some teenagers yes, but the majority consume alcohol and glamorize It. And weed is definitely not glamorized or even seen as neutral by society as a whole, It is demonized.
My dad died of heroine overdose so I'm gonna have to watch this when I'm mentally ready.
Take your time sweetie. Now the time to be gentle with yourself HUGGS 😢🤗🤗
Take your time. ❤ sending love
You don't have to watch it if it's triggering! < 3
sorry for your loss :(.
Watch jessica kent on TH-cam. She is also a recovering addict and mother. I read often in her comments that people understand their relatives better now ❤️
I lost my cousin Ricky to alcoholism… I didn’t know him very well as he was I think 14 years older than I was? Something like that… And they lived in another state. But I remember when they would visit when I was about 3 years old, Ricky always brought his acoustic guitar. And I was his biggest fan… He sat on the sofa and I parked my little behind on the floor right in front of him and kept asking him to play song after song. I was in literal awe by the fact that he could do such a magical thing and make beautiful music (this was 1976, there was a lot of beautiful acoustic guitar music then). Anyway, my uncle pushed him to go to college just like HIS father pushed him to do the same. You’d think he’d have known better because it didn’t work well for him and he eventually went into the business that made him happy. Why he pushed Ricky, I don’t know… But I think that’s why he turned to alcohol. I didn’t see him after I was 3 for another 10 years. By then at 13, no one had told me of his issues and I was so excited to see my cousins again, especially Ricky. I was hoping he would bring his guitar and play. But there was no guitar… In fact, I had no idea who this strange man was. No one needed to tell me what was going on with him, but it would have been nice if they would have told me before hand to spare me the shock. And the sadness… The Ricky I knew was already gone… He went into rehab several times, dried out, then he’d be right back not long after. When he finally passed several years ago, my mother told my husband and asked him not to tell me because of my mental issues (bipolar, anxiety, a bunch of others) and because I don’t take death well. But my husband didn’t think that was right, so he told me anyway. I didn’t say anything. He asked if I was okay and I said I was, but I don’t think he believed me. I told him, “The Ricky I knew, the one that played guitar for me when I was 3? He didn’t exist anymore. He was replaced by some strange man I didn’t know that I met when I was 13. Besides, with how bad he was, how many times he relapsed, it wasn’t a matter of IF he was going to die, it was WHEN…” I really wasn’t surprised or phased. I felt like a stranger passed away.
But I have done one thing since then… I grew up and learned to play the piano (mostly myself, my mom taught me a little) but I’ve wanted to play guitar as well, just like Ricky, since I was 3 and watched him play. I asked for a 12 string (go big or go home) one year for Christmas and began taking lessons. I’m not the greatest yet, but I’m determined. Ricky was like a god of modern guitar at 3. I wanted to follow in his footsteps 😊❤
as a 15yr old trying to recover from being an alcoholic, this really helped.
Hugo?
@@yeahnah3145 you know them
JUST A LITTLE PSA FOR Y'ALL...... Get yourselves a narcan kit learn how to use it of course, toss it in the trunk of your car, you never know when you might be at a party sometime or even just come up to someone in on the side of the road....it's not a big deal to learn how to use it and to carry one and you just might save someone's life, even if you're not in the drug scene yourself but especially if you are, better to have it not needed than need it not have it
Worth noting that it DOES expire - but even with that in mind, expired Narcan is better than no Narcan.
@@amoureux6502 yes very good point!
@@amoureux6502 how long till it expires?
@@-t96 18 - 24 months but it's been noted that it can still be chemically stable for over 10 months after the labelled expiration date.
If you leave it in a car it will expire far sooner. A hot vehicle will far exceed the acceptable storage temperature of medications. If the medication becomes ineffective and you inform an ambulance officer that they have received a dose of narcan they will account for that and the person may die because they didn't get what they needed.
The heroin version of the tequila joke the therapist made:
One hit, two hits, three hits
Morgue
YOOO
Rocks?
Okay... that made me grin just a bit. Here's a like.
Eh would take alot more shots for me to end up in the morgue 🤣 that tolerance builds up so fast is insane
@@miiz_murrderr the reality of how rare it is to OD is lost on people whose only experience of heroin is through a screen.
I don't like this concept of "this drug is worse than this drug" so that addiction is worse or has worse stigma. Regardless of the addiction, the person deserves help
I think their point is that nobody takes alcoholism as seriously as they should. At 35:30, they literally say that everyone should take every addiction seriously. Also, everyone's experience is going to be different and they make it abundantly clear that this is just their experience. 💗🌸
Absolutely but it's not what the video it's saying, it's saying alcoholism is not taken seriously compared to other addictions
Well drugs are amoral and people seem to forget that. They think everything has something to do with morality and it's harmful as fuck.
Though if we're talking in terms of harm, that can be measured and ACTUALLY proven. For example, crocidyl is a drug that will seriously fuck you up.
There are differences in harmfulness.
Agreed! Alcoholism and heroin addiction are both deadly. I have lost close family members to both. The fact that the beginning of this video is practically promoting heroin is disgusting. I really enjoy this channel usually, but I'm unsubscribing.
@@caitiecunningham872 Just because another addict has had a different experience from you doesn’t mean they’re promoting heroine. Dorian has talked a lot about how fucked up their life became because of heroine addiction. I think they were just making the obvious comparison of what people stigmatize heroine use as and alcoholism as.
Most people think you’re going to be completely non-functional why experiencing heroine addiction, but in many cases this isn’t true. Many are able to live functional lives why addicted to heroine. No, that isn’t a promotion to take the substance, it’s basically just saying that-for some-it isn’t as crippling as it is for others. (They also mentioned that, why on heroine, they were also on methane, which reduces and completely takes away any withdrawal symptoms you receive from heroine use, which is why they were able to take it so frequently.)
They did this to make the comparison that many think you can be a functional alcoholic. Some can. Some can live completely normal lives and no one will ever know, except for the people who have to encounter them. Some people ARE NOT functional in any way, shape, nor form, and that is treated more like you being stupid and irresponsible through choice rather than through addiction.
By making this comparison, it highlights the definite stigma around heroine addiction and alcoholism-it isn’t Dorian saying one is better and one is worse, they’re simply making the obvious distinction about what *society* thinks. Not themselves.
I had a family member pass away at 32 years old from alcohol withdraws.. it’s no joke 😕
This was a very informational video, I liked every point you made and I think alcohol is truly the most abused drug and it needs to be taken more seriously. It’s sad how easily it gets slipped under the radar for being the leading cause of deaths by car accidents..
My uncle struggles with alcoholism and when he came forward about it to my Nana, she offered him a drink :| she struggles with drinking too but not as severe as my uncle. Just super insensitive of her. I know it took a lot for my uncle to come forward about how bad it was and for her to do that...
I remember your weight gain & being so worried about you. I’m very familiar with the look of alcoholism & can clock an alcoholic across a room instantly. Alcoholism is drug addiction and it’s just so sad how normalized it is, especially in America. Alcoholism is practically a right of passage for young people here
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in Poland it's worse
Alcohol is overly normalised, especially with how deadly it can be! I’ve struggled with both heroin addiction and alcoholism and only one was ever taken seriously (just guess which one)and this was at around 14. Alcoholism needs to be taken just as seriously as heroin and other addictions!
Edit: Withdrawals for me were also not taken seriously. With Heroin I got a lot of support and medication however with alcohol I was forced to go cold turkey and almost died which was still taken as a joke and an ‘overreaction’
I hear you girl sounds like a similar road is mine.... Only was crack cocaine for me, but the alcohol is always much worse a problem for me too
Damn straight you could have died from withdrawal of alcohol..... I know the detox and rehab centers here in New Brunswick Canada although we've got a pretty terrible meth problem in our community the local detox knows how to treat alcoholism well!!! They're actually the most incredible people in the whole planet.... The staff of the Miramichi detox center are near God like quality to me. I can even call them at any time and I always ask for my favorite nurse and she'll sit and talk with me for hours and they know you and get to know you cuz it's a small town. Best human beings on the planet right there!!!
I've also had people not take my alcohol withdrawal seriously. it's such a terrible experience and everyone acts like "well, that's what ya get!" like what the actual fuck... this is deadly. something that no one told me about is the "kindling effect" which essentially means after you "get" it your withdrawals continue to get worse and worse, even if you find yourself drinking less than before. my last detox lasted a week, up from 3 days 2 years ago, drinking wine not vodka.
I'm so sorry. Alcohol withdrawal is serious, and can be fatal. You can only ingest so much poison before your body starts to break down. My uncle nearly died of dt's (The most severe alcohol withdrawal is called delirium tremens, otherwise known as the DTs. The experience of going through delirium tremens can vary from person to person depending on the duration and frequency of their previous alcohol consumption.) in jail because they didn't take his alcoholism seriously. He also pissed off the guards (he was an asshole) so they mostly just laughed at him. He'd been drinking since he was 5-6. They got addicted before they were even old enough to understand what alcohol or being drunk was.
When I was 14 I watched my grandad at 62 years old (while drunk on his £100 a day habit), fall, have a bleed on the brain and get korsakoff syndrome which is really nasty! He passed away last year after 8 years of not talking, not walking and staring at a wall (+ multiple seizures). It's honestly put me off ever touching alcohol.
korsakoff is awful and im sorry you had to witness that. it should be used to deter people from alcoholism because it is so dangerous
It’s interesting to hear this to those less informed. I definitely worry a lot more about a person i know who is a heroin addict than the person i know who is an alcoholic, both are functional and both have jobs. So, it’s true that alcoholism is just not seen as as dangerous by most people. Thank you for this talk.
@@MollTheLioness i thought the deaths were due to fentanyl mixed into heroin these days which makes it a lot more lethal… i am doing a placement at an outpatient treatment center ans we have been hearing of the huge spike in overdoses due to fentanyl being added to practically anything now.
As a former opiate addict that was on methadone (8 years clean 🎉) I’m glad to hear someone talking about this without shame! Sending you love ❤
My thesis is actually all about drug related deaths in England and i got on a very similar soapbox at the end. Harm reduction is needed; testing kits, needle exchanges, safe rooms.
I know some functioning heroin addicts (they have careers, play in bands etc). They have been using for about 20-25 years. They have certain rules to keep themselves in check but it hasn’t been too kind to them physically and mentally. One can definitely tell they use - there is a sadness and sunkeness look to their face and eyes. They have expressed they want to quit but it’s so hard. 😢 I think a safe controlled source would be a positive thing for them because there is so much fentanyl in the drugs here. Alcoholism is a scary beast. Luckily no one close to me is struggling with that (as far as I can tell.)
I very much buy into that whole "anti drugs" propaganda taught at school so I don't/haven't done any illegal drugs in my life - but the existence of clean needle exchanges and safe spaces for users and addicts is sooooooooo important! A friend of mine passed away from a heroin OD in 2012 (hearing that the cuts changed really piqued my interest here - I never really got closure after her death) and I really think if only we had access to methadone and safe injection sites it wouldn't have gone the way it did. The outcome of having these services has been proven as incredibly positive - im so sad we cannot see the dignity of intravenous drug users in greater society.
Thanks for such an important story and perspective!
If you want to know the real reason why I have a problem with drugs we need to talk about the opium wars nobody thinks that it could be used as a weapon drugs for governments but I can it is a dark and truth and nobody wants to talk about this.
Not to mention how easy it is to relapse BECAUSE of how normalised it is, you try and quit and can’t escape it. Everywhere you go people are drinking alcohol or talking about alcohol. I’ve lost so many friends trying to go sober because thats pretty much the only thing they do to socialise is drink, and yeah I can still go out to clubs and pubs and drink juice but it’s not the same especially when everyone is drunk yelling at you to “just have one” or “don’t be a loser”. I feel like I miss out on so much now because I hate being around those kind of people, but it has really helped my mental health overall and I don’t think I’ll ever go back no matter how tempted I am. But man, it’s hard.
I just found you today ultimately bc of Eugenia's content taking me down a rabbit hole.
I've been addicted to alcohol for 15 years and physically dependant for at least 7... I hate every second of it but I can't stop. I'm a stay at home mom whose life revolves around living in my house and taking care of my children. I got pregnant 2 years ago intentionally to be sober but I had twins and fell apart all over again. Idk what to do to stop the triggers. This time last year I was in rehab away from my babies for the first time ever until may and I just don't know how to stop when there is so much propaganda and desire for it 😭
My dad was an alcoholic all my childhood growing up, his dad was also an alcoholic which is why I tend to call addiction a disease. I'm proud to say my dad has been sober from alcohol for TWO years now! It was an awful struggle that I'm glad he has surpassed.
oh my i have been literally thinking about this topic today, love you for spreading awareness about alcohol dangers. coming from slavic country the drinking culture is insane and the problem of abusing liquor highly overlooked
Same in Europe, its absolutely normal to drink every day
Oh I feel you :( my grandpa died from cirrhosis, my whole slavic family thought it was funny to let me try wine as a child. I think I'm so lucky for not being addicted to alcohol (but surely addicted to sleeping pills... Well...)
Gin is such a glamourized booze for women and in my first two years of uni I started being really dependent on it. I would happily sit down and drink a neat bottle of gin to myself in the evening, wake up feeling awful, extremely depressed, vaguely remember the crazy, embarrassing stuff i'd done the night before and then go out and buy some more. It was an on going joke with my friends that you couldn't leave me in the house with a bottle of anything cause once i'd started i wouldnt be able to stop. I put on the three stone in those two years which I am still yet to loose. I got myself into SOOO many horrible situations and honestly without people looking out for me and general luck, i dont know what could have happened to me. I hardly drink now, and ive had a bottle of champagne in the house since my 21st (year ago) which i dont even think about. I was able to get myself out before things got worse and after some massive substance binges. I recognized that i was far too comfortable getting wrecked by myself at home and i got really invested in my work. I have a pretty grim diet coke habit though :') but im working on that too.
66 days sober. I wasn't an "alcoholic". I was a heavy binge drinker. It almost took my life. I was extremely depressed and the anxiety was terrible. Two months sober and all of that is gone. The reaction from other people has been crazy. I've been called boring and people have told me "if you don't drink, don't even bother coming" I'm a 34 year old... Other 30 + people say things like this. Our culture is obsessed with alcohol.
It's so weird, I've had all those symptoms from when i was an alcoholic and I never even thought they came from the alcohol, I thought I was just messed up. I'm happy I'm not alone in this struggle, thank you for sharing your story, I wish I found your channel earlier. Much love to you ♥️
I wouldn't say I was truly an alcoholic but I've definitely had an alcohol issue. It's the worst drug I've touched for sure. It's so easy to mess up and very potentially die. When I was out with friends it would just be so easy sometimes to drink too much and blackout - acting a fool (nothing too bad luckily). I've said some dumb stuff but the worst episode was me blacking out and just wandering around in the opposite direction of home. I came to and wasn't hurt but sometimes I think to myself something really bad could've happened. I also have a best friend who is an alcoholic and it was really difficult to watch how she would rationalize her drinking and how quickly it all went downhill.
My therapist called this "weekend alcoholic" and I have definitely been there in the past myself. Thankfully I was always in the present of friends or good people in general, who didn't take advantage of my state.
This is the reason I'm terrified of becoming addicted to alcohol so I avoid it. My parents are both alcoholics and I already have an extremely obsessive personality. I have a few sips and I think about it for a month afterward. If someone is an alcoholic you should have the same concern for them as you would with someone using any other highly addictive substance such as Heroin.
I grew up with plenty of alcoholics who always claimed, "I'm a functioning alcoholic" or "I keep it under control." I just always remember thinking "No. You don't. You're plastered." It can be just as bad as anything else but denial changes perspective...
Great video! Considering that alcohol is so statistically dangerous, and that much of heroin's dangers are directly caused by prohibition (no clean product, safe dosage, clean needles=fentanyl and OD, and also being more expensive due to prohibition = more people ruining their and their loved one's finances), I think that if both were legal, heroin would come out as definitely safer. Heroin addicts in ideal conditions (like in some of the countries with legal programmes) don't die of liver failure and cirrhosis. There's no narcan for alcohol poisoning either. Socially, they don't get into bar fights or beat their kids while using; they just go on the nod. I say this as someone who drinks occassionally but won't do opioids, not out of some moral grandstanding bullshit, but because their effects simply don't interest me. Frankly, I like drugs that have an edge to them, like stimulants or psychedelics. For that reason I know exactly which drugs to be wary of (meth). But if I listened to mainstream advice about the subject, I'd be in deep deep trouble, because culture will never be able to think about these things rationally... hell, psychs and cannabis are still illegal. We are so far off from being able to reach true healing and education about this, and so many people are going to die or ruin their lives because of it. Very sad.
I got into more trouble drinking than I ever did on my meth addiction. Crazy thing is that my family would of preferred me to continue drinking alcohol over meth or even weed. For me it was about loosing both of them.
Congratulations on your sobriety - you're a wonderful person and I'm so happy I found your channel by complete chance! :) Thank you for sharing your experiences; I'm sure they will help so so many people
I'm an alcoholic. Over 6 1/2 years sober. I have been watching your channel for about 6 years and I adore you. Congrats on 3 years sober, and thank you for sharing your story ❣️
Edit: Yes, a person can die from alcohol withdrawals!!! Please take detoxing from alcohol seriously, everyone. 💞
I'm coming up on my first month of sobriety recovering from alcohol addiction and I can't tell you how helpful and weirdly comforting this video was. Thank you for making the content you do and being so open with your audience
Thank you so much for speaking out about this!!!!!!!!!!!! I really appreciate you!
I've been an opioid addict for 13 years. My heroin experience was very positive as well. Almost identical to yours, except I often had to withdrawal from it which made it hell. But that's only a reality because it's illegal.
Opiates keep me off alcohol as well. I have no urge to use or destroy myself when I take heroin.
Alcohol made me violent, crazy & suicidal. Always dwelling on negatives & traumas.
Now I'm on suboxone (which sucks) & my heroin dealer went to prison.
My life has never been the same. And I am now less functional because I do not have heroin.
I use to work harder & even cared more about my responsibilities while using heroin. The hypocrisy is insane.
So I truly appreciate you speaking out about this topic. Heroin should be legalized.
Uhhh yea being on methadone is exactly why there were no “issues” lol. No withdrawal. No worrying about withdrawal. Anyway interesting topic. Everyone’s experiences are valid and everyone’s experiences are different! It’s a good thing to hear different people’s perspectives bc that’s all life really is. A perspective. 💞
Edit One minute after my comment you said the same thing. Lol I am clean and on methadone now. Definitely would have made life easier to be in it while using but I never even heard of it until I was “done” using and needed a way to put my life back together. Now just have to get off this stuff!
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I'm just shocked you have less that 1 million subs. You are so authentic and honest. We need more people like you on this platform ❤
Agree there! Dorian is so good at explaining things and I love the videos so much!
I agree for most of Dorians content. Although this specific video made me a bit upset because they romanticize heroin and that can have very harmful effects. They definitely did not have a typical experience with heroin. But of course I agreed with the part about how bad alcoholism can get and it’s fucked up some people don’t take it seriously
Thank you for all your videos and for making a fellow aspie feel not alone with all her struggles. I’ve battled a lot of things, mostly mental health, and honestly to see someone who I can relate to talking about it makes my bitter, cold heart sing. All the love ❤️
my friend recommended your videos to me and i’m so thankful for them for doing so. thank you for opening my eyes to my own alcoholism and i appreciate you for talking about these issues. it’s hard, but i’m going to try be sober thanks to you! i appreciate you so much :))
Thank you for telling us your story and how both of these drugs played a part in your life.
I do struggle though with how heroin is portrayed. I have friends who have lost brothers, sisters, cousins and parents to this drug and I don’t feel like that should be downplayed. I’m so grateful that you’re still here but that’s not everyone’s story.
She stated that throughout the whole video. She even went to the extent of saying that a possible reason why her heroin addiction was not as destructive as the stories you hear from others is because she had a methadone prescription, so I think she made the point that experiences may vary a lot
My mother's alcoholism hugely impacted me and my siblings lives hugely. All three us of have had suicide attempts all of us have mental problems like it was fucked all of us up. My mother to the day denys it wasn't as bad as we say because she doesn't remember most of what happened and its so invalidating.
All addicts forget the impacts their addiction had on other people around them, because addiction is a self centred activity. Few ever apologise to those they’ve caused harm, because their perception is the world revolves around them.
I was almost killed by a drunk driver, so yeah, not a fan of alcohol. Glad you've been able to get sober, be well and safe everyone ❣️
same
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I needed to hear this as someone who’s completely gotten off of heroin for years now but I’m currently trying to taper down on my alcohol so I can quit because I don’t have a community right now.
Thank you for posting this.
Honestly I really get you on the shame aspect of it. I’ve felt far more shame due to alcohol than heroin. Like when I wake up after getting absolutely pissed out my mind I feel so much shame because of how easily I lost control. And not even knowing what kinda shit I did or said whilst drunk because I can’t remember really makes me feel ashamed.
These videos help my partner to understand how the alcoholism truly affected me and why the Anna is such a difficult thing. You're truly amazing and a wonderful voice for us who aren't able to articulate our truths about these topics thank you so very much.
The road to recovery is like dancing on rusty pins, so thank God there's channel's that feel like others understand.
Even when i drank the bubbly water for the first time since my last drink i used to mix it with, all i could taste was my last hangover from over 3 months ago and i had to mentally convince myself the fizzy water was good to hydrate me and not gag. It's crazy how something i used to mix in my alcohol can be such a powerful reminder to why i shy away from drinking now
I lived with an alcoholic who was also a diehard Juggalo. It's a catastrophic combination. The dealbreaker was the night he "playfully" almost stabbed me with two of my kitchen knives, making me run out the back door. I took him to work the next day and then drove all his belongings to his mother's. I felt for you when you described those miserable sick times and I'm so glad you chose to heal. I'm also glad you never got to the point my ex roommate did.
He must have listened to 'I stab people' and took the message to heart.
Would you be able to do a video about eating disorder movies and how it is displayed through media culture vs the reality and the impact it could have on people watching them
Firstly, I respect you taking the time to share your experience of addiction to various substances. It opens up a much needed conversation and destigmatises hard drug use somewhat. I agree with what you’re saying, I think alcohol is more insidious in our culture and I’ve definitely done more fucked up shit from drinking but it also sounds like your experience of being a heroin addict was very different to mine. You seem quite privileged in that respect, that she never had to struggle for money, shoplift, do sex work when you didn’t want to etc. Not calling you out (I hate that pissing contest culture you find in some recovery circles) Just another perspective from someone from seemingly quite a different background to your own .
all drugs should be legal. we need to address the root causes of addiction but that requires radical social change that the system will obviously resist violently. but you're definitely right, it's weird that heroin has so much worse of a reputation when alcohol can be just as bad or worse in many ways
I could never tolerate hair of the dog. I get vicious hangovers and I remember trying a few times but I have no "off" button and I would have to drink for hours (because I was drinking so slowly as the thought of alcohol made me feel like death) and I would reach a point where I wasn't doing hair of the dog, I was just smashed again. Then I got a double hangover that I couldn't sleep away. It was a nightmare. For me my biggest alcohol trigger was music. I would hear a song on tv or youtube or just hear one in my head and straight away my mind went "Iwannadrink" like so fast. And it would keep repeating it until I had one. I would drink 5 litres of cider or a litre of vodka on my own in my bedroom every 3 days at least. And I thought ah it's not a problem because it's "only" every 3 days.
When I would drink I wouldn't do anything productive I would just drift away in daydreams listening to music and imagine my life how I wanted it to be. That to me was my escape. And alcohol helped fuel those daydreams so well they were detailed and fun and exciting to me. When I drank with people it started off a good time and then all I wanted to do was dip so I could daydream at home about being beautiful and successful and in love. That's pretty sad. But as a natural loner that was just my vibe and a hella slippery slope I'm glad to be off.
I was just thinking about this this. All the people that were killed from drunk driving, you don't really hear of anyone getting killed from dope driving. People I knew used to shoot up and just lay around and nod off. None of them ever went out driving around.
I personally have known many people robbed at knifepoint by dopesick junkies. Some died, some didn't.
Interesting video. I think your experiences are very atypical, especially the financial stuff. It's a bit unfair to compare an expensive drink like JD to a heroin habit that's heavily subsidised by methadone. But, yeah, both types of addiction are no joke. Are you aware that long-term use of opioids can/will mess with your endocrine system? They're not as benign in terms of physical health as you might believe. Anyway, I fully support access to pharma heroin for those who need it. In fact, I think all drugs should be legalised, taxed and there should be some sort of knowledge test before you can use them, a bit like a driving licence. Doubt that'll ever happen though for reasons too numerous to list!
Omg I agree they kept saying how heroin didnt effect their health at all but it can definitely have long term effects just as alcohol does, and I doubt any person would have zero negative side effects and health issues after using heroin for months or years (I’m not sure how long they were using)
@@aubreyglenn5340 Yeah, any opioid that's used long-term (including methadone) will cause significant changes in the body. For example, it decreases sex hormone levels in both men and women so often causes loss of libido, decreased muscle tone and lower bone density, especially as the person ages. It's massively underdiagnosed in both addicts and pain patients.
I actually think she made her heroin addiction up. she said she use to shoot up 5-7 times a day which doesn't actually tell me how much she was doing, the amount of heroin in a shot varys alot, also she was using alot of language that makes her sound like an undercover cop lol. But seriously it kinda pisses me off because heroin/fentanyl has ruined my life and I don't have the platform to tell people how bad it is and she is telling everyone it isn't that bad and alcohol was worse
@@mhm6488 It depends on what addiction you got from. If someone was addicted to benzos that person will tell benzos is the worst shit ever. If someone was addicted to heroin that person will say heroin is the worst shit ever. The same goes with alcohol
@@mhm6488 this video has me confused because it is humanly impossible to do that amount of heroin, a hard drug unlike weed or shrooms, for possibly a decade, and to not have dealt with debilitating health issues or symptoms?? I'm a med student so I had to learn how chemicals such as recreative drugs do to our body and what problems could arise from abusing them.
We have a lot of alcoholism in my family, it’s no joke... it really should be taken as seriously as any other addiction if not more so.
Not too long ago I felt myself slipping into alcoholism. One morning I woke up and felt a seizing pain in my chest and jaw, I happened to be sick from infection and hungover that morning, but the way my health was turning due to alcohol and how aggressive and irritable I became crossed the line. I started counselling, decided to change my degree course and make a concerted effort to be social (setting a limit to only buy / drink alcohol when in the presence of others at a social event).
My inability to focus, general irritation, lack of purpose, feelings of worthlessness and isolation was what lead me to drink in the first place. I felt great while drunk and even found it easier to get on with work, focus and do things after a couple drinks. I'm glad it didn't escalate too much, but it did become enough to get me tipsy every night all week.