Don’t forget to join the discord 🙏: discord.com/invite/HZjvt6vPq4 Edit: 1:30 I might have been misinformed on the Killer of Obs Haki being rooted in Conq Haki so take that with a grain of salt but my opinion on it is still the same.
Its the best interpretation, we know CoC overwhelms the target's senses and other translations have said "will" so it makes sense it may neutralize/suppress haki or even Df abilities.
So who exactly wins? I feel Shanks would win if Kaido tanks a divine departure or something but if it doesn't land somehow then Kaido wins. Oden is probably on similar level to Roger in their techniques or something and Shanks could use the same technique to most likely the same caliber thus meaning Shanks could seriously injure Kaido and that may just end Kaido.
The disrespect towards Kaido is real. Kaido lost to every version of advanced haki PLUS the most ridiculous power in the world. Haki alone was not enough to beat Kaido. "Oh but Shanks wiped out Kid. Big Mom & Kaido couldnt do that". Kaido been spank the Kid Pirates. Beat Luffy 4 times. Dropped Law with a single Thunder Bagua. Kaido put Shanks as one of the people who can fight him. Not beat him.
So prime whitebeard, roger, and xebec can’t beat Kaido as well? Dumb ass Kaido loses to all of them expect oden it makes sense shanks would beat Kaido as well unless ur saying luffy is already top 1 all time which is 🧢 since there would be no more stakes since luffy could just solo everyone which is false shanks is stronger than gear 5 luffy and Kaido Shanks>>>Luffy gear 5>Kaido
I honestly think Kaido is always the strongest after Whitebeard died even though not so much since there should be little differences with the Emperors powers individually. Kaido already has advanced Haki in all assets but Shanks is better than him when using it obviously based on the latest chapters but Kaido also has another trump card like a mythical dragon fruit and enhances his physical feats as well with some included powers so I honestly think Kaido was the strongest untli he was actually taken down by Luffy because it sounds like it's the 1st time Kaido got dethroned.
to add to that greenbull feat, in whole cake big moms conquerors was strong enough to affect luffy and katakuri, and that was in their face. the fact that shanks haki is having a similar effect on greenbull, all the way from his ship means he's probably washing greenbull badly
@@lxfj2128 cap he ran as soon as he felt his haki greenbull didnt gave a problem facin the scabbards, he knew strawhats, kid pirates and law was there so he was prepared for that
@@lxfj2128 high diff? shanks was sniping him with conq haki from all the way at his boat what do you think would happen if shanks was close shaks low diffs greenbull its not close
Imho the strongest hint that kaido and shanks just clashed at most and did not fight to the end is that shanks arrived in marineford without any injury and his ship intact. afaik kaido flew to marineford and could and probably would have heavily damaged the ship of shanks also with his gust attacks and bolo breaths... i might consider shanks beating kaido but i really cant see him doing that unharmed, dude would literally have to bet his other arm imho.. :D i think they just kinda clashed and shanks told him "hey i got this! i know how to handle this situation so we can bring the real JoyBoy to you, just wait a bit longer my lizard friendo!" and then they all left lmao
Shanks most likely told kaido about whitebeards sickness and physical well-being and kaido liking a good fight probably didn't see any reason to fight whitebeard
@@ososkic8673 good question, who knows maybe he doesn't want to fight shanks for having one arm like mihawk, or maybe he wants a "good" fight and shanks would absolutely clap him etc. Idk fun to speculate
@@jordanthomas7339 nah shanks "absolutely clapping kaido" is a wild take, even if u just theorizing. Kaido didn't fight shanks for the same reason any of the other yonko didn't attacked each other. It's for that same reason any yonko didn't challenge the marines either, and vice versa.
It was stated that only kaidou and king went to marineford of course they would’ve backed down from the entire red haired pirate crew. It’s the same reason why greenbull bailed out at wano when shanks and his crew showed up etc..
Shanks loses. People are forgetting he’s a fucking human. I agree it’s an extreme diff for kaido because he will be getting hit by sword attacks but kaido wil be able to tank more damage compared to shanks. It’s like people are forgetting shanks weakness
We never even saw kaido's full power against luffy. Chapter 1045 we see a luffy out of energy and kaido lets him rest. While kaido is holding onigashima and fighting for control over it's movement with momo. Chapter 1043 also states kaido was deeply wounded going into it, whereas Luffy got a revival. I'd say Kaido beats luffy even now and Shanks 1 shotting kidd is cool but he did catch him offguard against a kidd who is immobile and cannot move.
Yamato literally states everyone is injured lol. So no excuse for Kaido. Lufft was still injured even in G5 and this is proven by ch 1045 + Luffy states he can fight *a bit* longer. Plus, Kaido's Haki was getting stronger according to ch 1037 Luffy > Kaido th-cam.com/video/Amv28YwdgkE/w-d-xo.html
@@BeastXIS unless you can quantify how weak luffy was ur entire point is stupid. Chapter 1070 exposes gear 5s flaws and how without even taking damage he was gassed out. same tro chapter 1045. Kaido slams.Luffy was dead not injured. he was at 0 percent and was revived.
@@BeastXIS Also kaidos haki got stronger doesnt meab luffys is. he got dtronger against a weaker luffy and rayleigh states you het stronger from fighting so this is no surprise 🤦stop the mc love
@@mrskat317 that's the point. Luffy and Kaido were both unquantifiably fatigued. So to prove Kaido > Luffy, you would have to prove that Kaido was more fatigued than Luffy (which u can't) The difference between ch 1045 moment and ch 1070 moment is that Luffy explicitly notes that he was dying before getting G5 after Kaido noted that Luffy was at his limit. He even forced himself to fight by restarting his heartbelt which Kaido told Luffy to be careful about that or he'll die. Meanwhile in ch 1070, he returned to normal in a few seconds and his time limit did not run out, he just returned to base Kaido's Haki getting stronger does matter because Luffy literally overpowered Kaido in a conqueror Haki clash. And as Rayleigh implies, CoC ties to strength So yeah
Shonen "Power Creep" is gonna make Kaido into a little bitch who would get one shotted by Akainu. Luffy can defeat Kizaru, but Aokiji, Blackbeard, and certainly Akainu... low to mid dif Luffy. One Piece is Shonen.
Yeah, only logical explanation would be if it was another situation like the clash we saw between Shanks and Whitebeard. But it's hilarious to think Kaido would ever be content with just that
I really hope oda gives shanks the best feats in the series so everyone praises him and is hypes as fuck And then imu comes out of pangea castle and ONE SHOTS him with a single weak ass attack
Great video bro! Also just out of curiosity, would you consider the fact that Luffy was holding onto Kaido for his final attack as something to talk about? Cause in my opinion, the fact that Luffy was holding onto Kaido and Kaido then said that, he wasn't gonna dodge he was gonna take the attack head on, should be apparent that he could've dodged if he wanted to.
Although I understand the angle I think it’s irrelevant to the general narrative of the fight. If Kaido was stronger he would have won the final clash. I’ve gone into more detail about this in another vid.
@@Zeno1781 Yea he said that after Kaido pieced him up and hit him with different attacks. On top of that, new gears always have drawbacks, and we see on in Egg Head that Luffy still gets drained and ages even when using G5 ‘at full health’ When he went G5 vs Kaido, the first thing he says is that he just lost and he’s wondering why he can stand and why he’s having a blast. Then he says he can keep fighting, he feels like anything is possible and he’s at his peak
Shanks is that naked guy fighting with a metal bat kaido is that guy who is fighting with a wooden bat but wearing a metal armour kaido still wins physical strength, endurance, durability, healing,hax, etc all goes to kaido
i think they are evenly matched in a 1V1 scenario, i really dont see shanks being tankey thought so 3 or 4 thunder baguas and he ded, in the short term shanks comes out on top, in the long term Kaido, in crew vs crew scenario shanks negates him.
Tbh I think that the two monsters, both with “unbreakable skin” and fire based attacks/defenses (Kaido is able to use magma in his dragon form and BM has Prometheus who is very versatile) could easily have survived hanging out in magma for awhile. I feel like if Oda wanted to definitively kill them, he’d have dropped them off Onigashima into the ocean. Idk why else he’d have them “die in magma” otherwise. They’re two of the 10 strongest characters in the verse, depending on how things play out ofc.
extreme diff for shanks if kaido doesn’t go full out at first. but haki wise shanks clear rooftop luffy and kaido and can kill obs haki 😂 we know those ACOC hits hurt kaido so it’s safe to say shanks can win once kaido had his FS/OBS haki turned off. Also, shanks has been shown to have insane physical stats catching up to pure light (movie feat) or pulling up to kid under 3-5 seconds after seeing the future. Also, oda has highlighted his physical stats in SBS as well. Don’t get me wrong tho kaido in hybrid form is a tough one to beat but with ACOC and maxed out haki stats I think shanks wins extreme diff.
@@OutletR Kizaru is pure light any feats catching up to him are insane especially as a base human with no fruit lol. Also, ur reading two piece if you don’t think someone who’s the embodiment of light isn’t top 3 fastest in their verse. Also, sanjis best feat is being able to perception blitz and go invis but it’s on queen that’s not really much since queen doesn’t have any good obs feats lol. Shanks read the future and reacted in 3-5 seconds to knock out two people that were on rooftop.
It’s never been said or shown that Kaido fights with his future sight. He’s confirmed to only have used it while dodging snake man. So say he would lose without it is not accurate
He is so strong that his hand was stretched out by fish . And his eyes are marked by blackbird those hypie fans are insane . Shanks will lose inevitably without his crew against kaido .
I think when Kaido says there are only a few people capable of fighting him and remembers Rocks, Whitebeard, Roger, Oden and Shanks, he's actually saying those 5 can defeat him or they are so similar to Kaido's level that the result of the fight is unpredictable. So I think Kaido is kind of equal to Shanks in power, it actually doesn't matter if Shanks is slightly superior, the difference is small enough.
Nah I think he's just saying what he's actually saying, and it's that those guys are some of the few that can actually fight him and not get swatted away
@@ratio8099 Kaido said " You're not Oden " when the red scabbards tried to Kill him, means Oden's level is still considered by Kaido. Even Zoro who has the Enma couldnt really hurt Kaido the way Oden did
@@gravito1573 Well it's just a cool panel with silhouettes of strong guys, I don't think it would make sense to try and shove every single character that can put up a fight with Kaido, at that point in the fight we were finding out about applying conqueror's haki to your attacks, so to me I interpreted it as these are guys Kaido met who are able to do that
The One Piece fandom is plagued by recency bias. There are people now saying old Garp who's semi retired can beat Kaido simply because of one feat he just got.
I don't understand how the author can say that this guy is the strongest living being any way you slice it, but people don't want to accept it, why? He had to fight basically a whole army and the main character with multiple revives and powerups, while holding the whole island, for it to make sense that he lost, but now Shanks one shots Kid, something Kaido could easily do, and people think there's some kind of an argument, it's bizarre. Its like the whole thing with Mihawk. Oda is giving these characters titles for a reason, but just because Whitebeard got sick and lost a lot of strength, people now think every title is a fraud. There's a reason Greenbulls bitchass didn't even dare to show up on Wano when Kaido was there, but he was ready to capture the guy that 'beat' him lol
The author never said that Kaido is the strongest, he's referred to as the strongest in the story. Why would Oda reveal who the strongest is to the audience??? Yall dumb af.
Zoro was capable with just ryou slice trough Kaido and with Asura even permanently scar him,so Shanks who is the best Advanced Conqueror Haki user we know as of now and second strongest swordsman after Mihawk bodies even somebody as strong as Kaido mid diff at best.
Shanks has shown nothing impressive because Kaido has already shown all the stuff he is doing. Kaido wins because of his durability factor, shanks was taking damage to civilians. Lets give Shanks being faster than base Kaido but Hybrid Kaido is 3 to 4 shotting Shanks if he doesn't block
you act like he couldn't block, shanks kills future sight, while shanks would be able to use his throughout the fight. Making it very easy to predict kaido, shank's attack power seems higher than kaido meaning that yes Kaido is more duarble but he doesn't hit as hard. Meanwhile kaido has speedblitz luffy while being next to him, while shanks speedblitz'd kid from being more than 500 meters away with ease. Hes clearly faster than kaido, theres a big reason why shanks stopped kaido from showing up to marineford
@@OGTwist You don't know if he's faster than Kaido, and if he is faster than Kaido its still relative. Shanks had a run in with Kaido, nothing to indicate they fought.
@@tawchaentertainment1488 Well I would assume he needs to block, I guess we don't truly know. And Shanks's speed feats, are better than Kaidos. So therefore he is faster. Thats how this works
Latest ep again further confirms holding up the island takes considerable effort. Both when skyplit and the awakening happens the island shakes and tremors are seen throughout it, as Kaido is forced to put more effort into the actual fight than moving the island. It's very tough to lift the island let alone keep it moving for that long while confidently taking attacks from 5 supernova. Undisputed WSC. Also regarding Oden scarring WSC Kaido, younger Kaido is MUCH weaker than Prime Kaido. Shanks, as we already know was only worth a bit over a bill and yc1+ just 7 years ago. The Kaido you're saying got scarred is from 20 years ago just like BM. Don't make up shit. Even then, Kaido was able to keep fighting after taking Oden's attack and never showed any other forms. Nevertheless, his haki and DF mastery were incomparable to what they are now. His race and Df give him too much of an edge over Shanks.
@Woosh Somebody has to give Luffy an incentive to grow stronger, and Kaido got wrecked already lmao. Now that the appetizer is done, we'll see what a true Yonko is capable of. The fact that Shanks is comparable to Kaido at all given he lost his sword arm and doesn't have a DF should be enough to prove that he's just on a different level from Kaido.
The reality is we don’t know enough to make a judgment. All the “narrative” arguments are mostly just word salad tbh. The most convincing one (which I still don’t think is enough), was the fact that shanks one shot Kidd while Kidd was able to hold his own on Wano, but the thing is you could argue Kidd was off guard anyways.
nice video. after the recent shanks feat i can see shanks ending up becoming stronger than kaido the way oda writes his feats. and haki surpassing all narrative
Shanks is not the only emperor ever who didn’t use devil fruits. Roger was another one. People seem to not realize that before Roger was the King of the pirates he was a Yonko as well he was not just a regular pirate captain…
I get it but dont just take the title literally without considering the hype and portrayal of certain characters.. and the interaction or perception between them
Oda literally nerfed kaido into losing to luffy so that luffy would come out victorious and shanks could also face a similar situation in the end . Kaido was always intended to be the strongest and that's the reason why he was defeated by luffy in such a manner that he wouldn't be dislodged from his tittle of strongest
Yeah, he was mad and sad when he killed Luffy and won because of that cp0 agent. Means he wanted some legitimacy at the end when he said " I won't run "
@@Buggy_DClown the longer oda waits to give someone more attention in an arc, the stronger they will be. I reckon strawhats Vs redhair pirates is next arc probably so they'll have to be stronger than kaidos crew
@@Buggy_DClown if shanks and luffy clash much later in the series when luffy is already stronger than he was back in wano im pretty sure we can say shanks is on a higher level bro kaido himself said only haki can rule the seas he himself said it devil fruits really are just like attachments on a gun
Also everyone forgets kaido history, he is the most incredible pirate ever, is like the chosen one kind of, he was an oni so he was incredible strong, at 14 years old strong enough to be wanted by Rocks, therefore a power comparable to a non prime Whitebeard and no prime Big mom, at 14 years old! Then when he grows up, he makes the most disrespectful thing to WB PRIMEs family (killing a member and humiliating his reputation and legacy, his descendants whom WB knew himself and his entire contry for ever if it wasn’t for luffy, even Oden wrote, if i am not capable of defeating him then in 20 year (Joyboy) kaido will be defeated), because Oden was extremely powrfull, after a Wordwide history breaker round with Roger and another worldwide tour with WB prime, he learned a lot of haki mastery and indeed put as close or relative as Pirate King level, so he knew Roger and WB would not win or try to win against Kaido because he is powerfull enough to be more of a bother than a desire to vengeance even though they consider Oden as family!! Kaido was strong enough to even WB prime consider a 1v1 vs Kaido as a 50/50 chance, because i dont see any other way someone so good as WB would intentionally let oden child’s, friends, family and country to be slaved and humiliated to death and not fight back!
I think shanks would win because his haki is stronger therefore giving his attacks more power and then on top of that he may be able to neutralize kaidos future sight completelty which is jsut gonna allow him to land free hits while still being able to dodge alot of kaidos attacks
Kidd literally did 0 dmg to Kaido the entire time lmfao and yes you're right. Shanks had to jump in and try to prevent the attack and not block it head on like Kaido would for a reason haha.
Kid went from 400million to 3billion without even being able to K.O Big mom. At that time he got humbled by Big mom's pirates, the only one who held his own was Urouge. Luffy at that same time, fought half of Big mom's children ALONE, defeated Cracker (with some help but doesnt change the fact that those biscuits and crackers were no match for Luffy). He defeated Katakuri and earned 1.5billion berry and got clapped by Kaido in a one shot. Kidd only awakened his fruit, he didnt really improve in terms of Haki. My opinion is that the Luffy post WCI was better in terms of DF and Haki than the Kid we have right now with 3billion berry
@@woosh1342 Kaido plays around, don't kill his enemies, Shanks doesnt care about that and jump into Action. The only time Kaido got very serious was when he was in his blood thirsty drunk phase, he even killed Luffy with that
real question mihawk vs kaido. I mean many ppl think mihawk is stronger than shanks and its suggestive that he really is so mihawk above kaido ? what yall think ?
Shanks wouldn't be that durable as kaido mostly shanks durability can be equal to rayleigh and he is very intelligent too , his IQ and BIQ Are on another level and with his OBSERVATION HAKI he can simply dodge them instead of tanking them With that much high observation haki he can dodge attacks till the end of battle It makes more sense that dodge >> tanking So what do u think more durability is best or best Observation haki and using it in correct way(IQ== CORRECT WAY) I will go with best Observation haki
Kaido wins. I could go on all day about scaling feats and statements but everyone here should already know that. Until/ unless shanks gets better feats. Kaido is still stronger
Yes shanks did one shit kid but he was serious from the start and after he saw the future he didn't let kid fire the rail gun... And I don't think he could one shot kid if he could actually fire it but yes I do think shanks takes the W here but it will be a very close fight with the Victor barely even standing
I honestly don’t know how shanks would be able to put kaidou down with something on the scale of that Devine departure, kaidou is too durable and too tough for shanks imo, only joyboy could take him down bro oden pretty much agreed with this notion and his wife who can see into the future set these things into motion. I highly doubt shanks is above gear 5th joyboy luffy let alone kaidou in his flame dragon form 😅 there is nothing that he has shown that would allow him to put kaidou down and keep him down. Sorry
okay so you are ignroing the fact that in One Piece Chapter 996’s title: The Island of the Strongest And they are referring to Kaido’s Onigashima. Which at least confirms Kaido is the strongest pirate alive right now, meaning he is stronger than Shanks. It is questionable whether this title means Kaido is just the strongest living pirate (meaning he is stronger than Shanks, Mihawk, Big Mom, Blackbeard etc.) or the strongest living being (which would mean he is stronger than Garp, Sengoku, all the Admirals, Dragon, etc.), or if he even is the strongest being in history (stronger than Roger, Whitebeard, Rocks, etc., but if you claim that it means that he is the strongest in history, you are going to have to provide more proof). Whichever one of these interpretations you have, no matter what, Kaido is stronger than Shanks. “Our opponent is the strongest pirate in the world.” - Killer. “That’s right.” - Eustass Kidd. he was called in a vivire card the strongest man alive any interprataion of any of this statemants put him way above shanks and then in rooftop he got amped a lot kaido will destroy shanks and they never battled Shanks and Kaido had a skirmish - not to sound condescending, but a skirmish/scuffle is a brief exchange, not a full-blown battle
@supernova336 Stop sucking Kaido's dick. Hate to break it to you, but Kaido isn't the main antagonist of One Piece. Literally, all it would take is Oda expanding more on Shanks' abilities and all the "Durrrr world's strongest creature" talk ends. He got beat, the story isn't over, Luffy is going to fight people stronger than Kaido. Blackbeard is likely going to end up even stronger than Kaido, let alone Shanks.
Kaido already recognizes how strong Shanks is, he’s not gonna test how strong Shanks is, unlike what he did to the worst generation. And not to mention that no move in the entire series can one shot Kaido, even if you go into head canon, he still isn’t getting one shotted by top tiers like White Beard and Roger.
I think kaido is a little stronger or they’re even, but Shanks crew is full of advanced haki users unlike kaido. so I think when they clashed his crew was the deciding factor in kaido giving up on the war.
I might get called a shanks wanker but man shanks and his crew would have defeated marines at marine ford for sure. Idk about bb since he is a coward and would prob run and use quakes to run. The reason why oda didnt go for it was prob because he would have to introduce so many new chars to replace the dead ones and then there is also garp who might have died too. The funny thing though since this is oda we are talking about he might turn that clash into a gag where shanks invites kaido to drink and he gets him so drunk kaido gives up. That said maybe it was shanks who told kaido about kid,hawkings and apoo aliance and where they are.
Bro you really trying to say that gear 5 luffy right now has stronger haki than shanks??? Because there is no way on gods green earth that luffy has haki even near shanks yet!! Which means kaido is getting slapped backwards and forwards by DADDY SHANKS
I do think it’s very close between him and shanks extent diff but the top 5 in kaidos eyes all beat him I reckon. I think Oden and Mihawk also beat him
I don't get It, Oden, Zoro can Scar Kaido, and we are talking 30 ribs bone broken Zoro, what makes you think Shanks wouldn't Just cut down Kaido specially with his mastery of Haki and Swordsmanship, the guy clashed with MiHawk and MiHawk would Slice Kaido like a Kebab,Haki + sword=dead kaido
I think the current strongest Haki user amongst the pirates is Shanks. Kaido clearly says Haki is what really matters, so I think in a fight till the end against Kaido, Shanks will win. Not saying it will be easy because like you said Kaido was doing a lot during is fight with Luffy. He was carrying an Island and basically fought all the strongest people on the island while knocking Luffy out 3 times. A full 1 v 1 battle Luffy probably would have lost, but after the awakening I think Luffy can go 1 v 1 verses Kaido, but I can't say the same about Shanks. It seems Shanks is still ahead of Luffy when it comes to Haki on every level. So yeah Shanks beats Kaido for me
Things are, Kaido's fighting style is way different from everything we've seen so far. Kaido rather tanks than dodge. I mean, he used future sight and even mimicked Luffy's attack with his body. Means he could have done that long ago, but he simply didnt want to. Even when Luffy pulled the Bajrang Gun, Kaido took it, he even said he won't run, implied he could have dodged the attack. I can't hardly see Shanks doing the same thing
@@gravito1573 since kaido is more durable he can tank them Shanks wouldn't be that durable as kaido mostly shanks durability can be equal to rayleigh and he is very intelligent too , his IQ and BIQ Are on another level and with his OBSERVATION HAKI he can simply dodge them instead of tanking them With that much high observation haki he can dodge attacks till the end of battle It makes more sense that dodge >> tanking So what do u think more durability is best or best Observation haki and using it in correct way I will go with best Observation haki
@@beastkaido11 I'll still go with Observation Haki, what I meant was that if Kaido used more of future sight like he did that one time against Snake man Luffy, things could have been much different for the supernovas. That's why I point the fact that their fighting style are much different, also Kaido plays around too much, while Shanks waste NO time
Kaido did haki is matters that's why he has ACoC and future sight. Kaido also said he fought countless opponents and end up being the strongest. You shouldn't ignore this statement too.
Especially after the green bull scene at the end of wano, Shanks having the strongest conqueror's haki is pretty obvious at this point. Shanks wore the straw hat just like Roger, and just like roger Shanks has no devil fruit and only haki. Imo, he is without a doubt the strongest yonko and the current pirate king level character in one piece.
Ok Shanks stopped Kaido from coming to MF pre ts Kaido is stated to be the strongest pirate post ts That means either shanks beat kaido in a unfair way that he didn't become the strongest pirate or Kaido became the strongest pirate post ts But i still got Shanks over him since Luffy>=Kaido And it wouldn't really make sense if luffy was already stronger than Shanks Also Black beard is bum whose words can't be trusted since he wasn't the worlds strongest pirate And Black beard didn't want to fight someone like Shanks or Akainu at MF since he would gain nothing from it besides some more fame Also yeah Shanks one shot killer but not kid Since it was kids own attack that knocked him out since all shanks did was blow up his own attack
3 sentences :D Shanks fought Kaido before. Shanks is in Kaido's top 5. Kaido has been caught by a Yonko multiple times. If you honestly think Shanks lost to Kaido in their fight, he aint gonna be alive after their fight 💀.
@@abbamalami9171 so he instantly became pirate king? He didn’t have to work to become yonko? Sounds unlikely to me. He was equal to white beard for a period of time and we know white beard was an emperor for decades
@@LuminaPath Bruh, an emperor is the title gained by pirates who are essentially war lords. Whitebeard had territory and an army, same with kaidou, big mom and Shanks (even though his i guess territory and army are where he gives out his flag to help them). Roger didnt have any of that. He had a ship and a super strong crew but not a army nor territory.
Absolutely. He tanked an absurd amount of damage leading up to the Nika battle and lufy still barely scraped through, winning once after losing like 3 times in a row
whitebeard was never duckin kaido bro😂 besides kaidos intro states he lost a couple times idc about the captured and shit by the navy but the fact they said lost before makes me think he lost to some people in the past
@@ShisuiDUchiha n*gga u didn't read manga properly, Everybody loses when they are young.,, luffy loses 10+ times in past, even to crocodile. At the beginning kaido also loses and get capture and to eat marine food.
@@ShisuiDUchiha n*gga who can real defeat current kaido, Even if kaido get capture, Do u think his army remain silent, kaido has the biggest army, and marine can't survive this war.. Meanwhile big mom also attack marine for support to kaido.
@@TheSlithice One oden was already dead when he found out Two going to war with another emperor poses way too many risks since they wouldn’t even be saving oden other than revenge
Definetly. They fell right into the hole where Pluton is. Since Wano isnt opene yet, we gotta go back there to see what's going with the people of Ebisu town, the Big mom's pirates who disappeared, and obiously to see Pluton. They're definetly appearing on the screen soon
Something for everybody to think about about. When Kaido is imagining all the people who are worthy like Shanks and Roger, did you notice that Big Mom wasn't there? She fought toe-to-toe with him for days and yet she does not get the honor that shanks gets. Notice also that shanks is compared to white beard, Roger, and Rocks. This definitely makes me think that shanks is pirate King level. If you believe that kaido is at or above pirate-king level, then by all means make him the winner. Otherwise, I give this fight to Shanks
If shanks was "pirate king level", he'd take on kaido and big mom before luffy and co arrived. He would take on blackbeard instead of letting him go. It seems people can't just assume one yonko can be stronger than the other but just slightly, and fighting among them would cause more trouble than anything. As for why big mom isn't in kaido "list", who knows, perhaps because they were allied at that time ? She was old ? Or he just don't value her ? The last one would be surprising as he clearly respect linlin but also seem to think she is nowhere near her older self, as he was saying things like she became an invalid when kidd and law took her out from the roof.
@@obmis_arraid21 with all due respect, Blackbeard was not going to win if Shanks fought him at Marineford even at full health. Blackbeard knew that, which is why he chose not to fight. Shanks is not the kind of person who just jumps into fights unless he has a really good reason to. I honestly don't know why he let Blackbeard live at Marineford. As far as not defeating Big Mom and Kaido, I believe it is because neither of them got in his way. Had either of them threatened any of Shanks's friends, I think he would have defeated them mid to low dif. His feats are really stacking up.
@@happychristian1173 yea ofc balckbeard couldn't win against shanks crew, it was to point out there's not that much of a difference beetween powerhouses. Kaido and big mom didn't threat shanks but they were in his way to the one piece.
@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 sorry of it looks like that, but what I'm saying work in both sides. Big mom was expecting the giants army so she can take on kaido, red haired and even whitebeard as she said. Kaido too never went for shanks poneglyph, that's what i wanna point out, there's no such thing as low diff or mid diff beetween powerhouses in one piece. That's why the world is "balanced". I really ain't downplaying shanks, but people high ball the shit out of hio everytime. I'm one of the biggest shanks fan, i watched his epic scenes i don't know how many times lol.
WHat are exactly Kaido feats again? Getting destroyed by garp and Roger? Losing to luffy? Almost getting killed by Oden before the old hag saved his life? Getting clapped by shanks who prevented him going to marinenford like he had planned and shanks came unharmed to marinenford. Imagine you having a plan to kill WB and on the way yu meet a 40 year old shanks who tell you turn around or I will clap you and he has to turn around IMAO. Kaido has 100 loses the dude is hyped for nothing. Shanks, BB, Im, Dragon. Akainu, Kong, The Gorosei they all clap him in 1vs1
What feats does Shanks have? Losing his arm to a fish, getting clapped by devilfruitless Blackbeard. Oden wasn't even close to Killing him, and on everything (except for Luffy) you said he was just 15-24 years old (close to that) and weaker than the one Luffy fought, So they're just goofy arguments and headcanon.
@@Chad-boshi Oh boy I have been ready for so long somebody to ask me what Shanks feats are so be ready to get utterly destroyed by me a guy from Denmark. SO Shanks feats are the following. making BB quit marinenford and saying "Im not ready for you". BB before that was ready to fight all 3 admirals garp and sengoku just not shanks big indication of his power. WHen Shanks aerrived Akainu started sweating didnt say or move inch again powerhouse. Then shanks showed God tier haki feats from distance made Greenbull tap. Shanks blitz Kizaru in movie approved by oda and he blized Kidd from another part of island so Shanks has shown so far to be fastest man in the verse almost like he can use son goku instant teleportation skills crazy stuff. Then he made Kaido turn around a guy who loves fight strong dudes didnt fight shanks or did he get clapped or sacred? Either way kaido turned around. I could go on and on SHanks is wihtout a doubt the strongest pirate and only one being close to him is maybe Dragon and Im. The scary part is that Kaido and big mom are not even close to his level mate
@@ososkic8673 lmao, I see no feats. Blackbeard also ran away from Akainu, same guy who was sweating like you say. Kizaru also got blitzed by Rayleigh lmao that dude can only be fast one direction at a time, even Sanji can speedblitz him. About the Kaido to marineford anything could've happened, it doesnt mean he was scared or whatever you want it to be, because it was offscreen. Also about the Kaido list, It's about people he believes can FIGHT him and use advance conquerors NOT beat him with no difficulty. Blackbeard also said that if he let Hancock go she would petrify him (which means he would get no diffed) also if there was a fight between Shanks and his crew vs Kaido and King, how is it that NONE of them were hurt? So yes you're arguments are still goofy and headcanon🗿
@@Chad-boshi That is also why I hold Akainu the fleet admiral to very high regards. I have akainu, shanks, dragon, IM, the gorosei, Kong etc all are above kaido. SOme of them are 10 stronger than kaido and then we have shanks, dragon and Im 3 guys that are substanstially stronger than kaido who would be clapped by gear luffy. Yes kaido beat luffy but he didnt kill or beat gear five luffy it was all the forms before that. Kaido is getting clapped by the sun god if they fought right here and now however shanks dragon, akainu and im arent getting clapped as of right now to the sun god.
@@Chad-boshi None of them got hurt? WHy shuld shanks get hurt when hs is much stronger than kaido LOOL. Benn beckman is like prime rayleigh 3-4x king level. DUde its a mismatch there is a reason we havent seen shanks fight all out yet. Oda saves strongest character to end show like shanks, benn beckman, mihawk and my favorite DRAGON a Prime Monkey clan member. Kaido got his has handled to him and dipped and then we had the 2 years time skip where he wounds healed ofc.
Just want to say Kaido never was proven to have advanced armament like ryou. I think that’s why Luffy won. Yamato couldn’t break her cuffs meaning you can have adavanced conquers and not have advanced armament. Also think that’s why Yamato was weaker even if she had advance conquerers for a long time.
@Cocncnc y’all act like Luffy won a traditional 1 v 1😭😭 Luffy and like 13 other people fought him. And not to mention kaido knocked him out 4 times before that
Kaido’s portrayal sucks not comparable to Shanks at all. He himself put Shanks in the list of people who are a threat to him, a list that didn’t include Big Mom who fought him to a standstill for a night. Shanks isn’t getting tagged by fodder like Killer, Law, Zoro. He just destroys them immediately. A combined attack from Kaido and Big Mom was briefly stopped by Zoro 🤣
@@jrbarn2019 It’s all facts I honestly have no idea how any of you respect Kaido compared to Shanks, Whitebeard, etc. Everyone accepts Big Mom is a fraud which by extension means you have to accept Kaido is bc again he couldn’t overcome her for an entire night. They’re rivals. Kaido was surpassed by Luffy, the narrative was that Joy Boy surpassed Kaido. Kaido would have won if Luffy got no help but that doesn’t matter bc Luffy is stronger now than when they started. It’s the same as how Katakuri was stronger during WCI but post WCI Luffy surpassed him. They went power to power at the end and Kaido lost. Now Luffy moves onto to chasing the true strongest people in the verse. Shanks, Blackbeard, and Im I suppose which is a weird one bc idk why he has just been chilling the whole series will just have to wait and see how Oda justifies that
@Kurokami Najimi bro stanks lost to an fish and bb and current stanks got punched out by civilians but kaido that has countless of feats and while extremely tired and damaged kaido had the upper hand in the fight against 5th gear luffy and Kaido still has the highest bounty and stanks himself finally bring up the one piece after big mom and Kaido was nerfed. Like, bro kaido didn't even awaken his devil fruit and Kaido was using about 1/3 of his strength in wano at best because kaido the whole time was letting 16+ people cut and punch on him with their ultimate attacks so no stanks is not kaido. Stanks is overrated and has plenty of plot armor plus people like you are the reason why we get laughed at in debates that we should be wining.
Oden was in the list and he got one shotted, Luffy was in the list too, plus the list is about people who CAN fight him and use advance conquerors, not about people that destroy him.
One piece has become too boring for me to watch. So he’s a Zoan now. Pathetic. It’s just an excuse for the author to add more power for his main character. What’s next he becomes a logia? Lmao
well see how strong oda makes shanks tho as we know antagonists only get stronger as the story goes on in one piece meaning kaido isnt going to be the strongest one in the series
I think with strong enough conquerors haki you can actually target the spirt of the devil fruit and cause the devil fruit to buffer out kinda like the yami though not as absolute having strong enough haki will minimise the effects with this shanks could really be danger to devil fruit users causung there fruit to act up making there attacks weaker or causing them to lose control of their powers I think Roger would have this to you could also do this to none devil fruit users makes no them lose focus and be under constant pressure kinda like being under fuji gravity you constantly have to have your haki defences up or your will will be crushed causing your haki to weaken Mihawk probably has some version of this we’re he Install futures into you so you will hesitate every time before you make a move
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Edit: 1:30 I might have been misinformed on the Killer of Obs Haki being rooted in Conq Haki so take that with a grain of salt but my opinion on it is still the same.
Its the best interpretation, we know CoC overwhelms the target's senses and other translations have said "will" so it makes sense it may neutralize/suppress haki or even Df abilities.
So you claim Mihawk is stronger than Kaido but shanks isn’t ?!?! LOL
So who exactly wins? I feel Shanks would win if Kaido tanks a divine departure or something but if it doesn't land somehow then Kaido wins. Oden is probably on similar level to Roger in their techniques or something and Shanks could use the same technique to most likely the same caliber thus meaning Shanks could seriously injure Kaido and that may just end Kaido.
Who wins Garp or Roger in a fight
The disrespect towards Kaido is real. Kaido lost to every version of advanced haki PLUS the most ridiculous power in the world. Haki alone was not enough to beat Kaido. "Oh but Shanks wiped out Kid. Big Mom & Kaido couldnt do that". Kaido been spank the Kid Pirates. Beat Luffy 4 times. Dropped Law with a single Thunder Bagua. Kaido put Shanks as one of the people who can fight him. Not beat him.
So prime whitebeard, roger, and xebec can’t beat Kaido as well? Dumb ass Kaido loses to all of them expect oden it makes sense shanks would beat Kaido as well unless ur saying luffy is already top 1 all time which is 🧢 since there would be no more stakes since luffy could just solo everyone which is false shanks is stronger than gear 5 luffy and Kaido
Shanks>>>Luffy gear 5>Kaido
Who’s disrespecting kaido buddy
@@anime_world6684 anyone that thinks shanks one shotting kid puts shanks above kaido 💀
*Luffy’s Haki* wasn’t enough to beat Kaido.
Shank’s haki is GOD TIER. Power and skill.
Kaido himself said haki is supreme and devil fruits don't mean shit. Kaido was heading to Marine ford and Shanks turned his ass around xD
I honestly think Kaido is always the strongest after Whitebeard died even though not so much since there should be little differences with the Emperors powers individually. Kaido already has advanced Haki in all assets but Shanks is better than him when using it obviously based on the latest chapters but Kaido also has another trump card like a mythical dragon fruit and enhances his physical feats as well with some included powers so I honestly think Kaido was the strongest untli he was actually taken down by Luffy because it sounds like it's the 1st time Kaido got dethroned.
Exactly
to add to that greenbull feat, in whole cake big moms conquerors was strong enough to affect luffy and katakuri, and that was in their face. the fact that shanks haki is having a similar effect on greenbull, all the way from his ship means he's probably washing greenbull badly
Not necessarily I think shanks beats gb high diff
@@lxfj2128 cap he ran as soon as he felt his haki greenbull didnt gave a problem facin the scabbards, he knew strawhats, kid pirates and law was there so he was prepared for that
You crazy ass hell if you believe that
@@ShisuiDUchiha factual, some people just be so delusional.
@@lxfj2128 high diff? shanks was sniping him with conq haki from all the way at his boat what do you think would happen if shanks was close shaks low diffs greenbull its not close
I Interpret Kaido World strongest creature literally as of now. I also Agree that Kaido wins against Shanks as of now.
Nice Video bro
Kaido win because his durability, endurance, Strength,hax and Abilities and his healing abilities and also his Haki
Imho the strongest hint that kaido and shanks just clashed at most and did not fight to the end is that shanks arrived in marineford without any injury and his ship intact.
afaik kaido flew to marineford and could and probably would have heavily damaged the ship of shanks also with his gust attacks and bolo breaths...
i might consider shanks beating kaido but i really cant see him doing that unharmed, dude would literally have to bet his other arm imho.. :D
i think they just kinda clashed and shanks told him "hey i got this! i know how to handle this situation so we can bring the real JoyBoy to you, just wait a bit longer my lizard friendo!" and then they all left lmao
Shanks most likely told kaido about whitebeards sickness and physical well-being and kaido liking a good fight probably didn't see any reason to fight whitebeard
Kaido always seeks good fight and wants to die. He however didnt fight shanks. Hmmmm why is that?
@@ososkic8673 good question, who knows maybe he doesn't want to fight shanks for having one arm like mihawk, or maybe he wants a "good" fight and shanks would absolutely clap him etc. Idk fun to speculate
@@jordanthomas7339 nah shanks "absolutely clapping kaido" is a wild take, even if u just theorizing. Kaido didn't fight shanks for the same reason any of the other yonko didn't attacked each other. It's for that same reason any yonko didn't challenge the marines either, and vice versa.
@@obmis_arraid21 which is? Casualties? Territory?, you didn't specify gang
It was stated that only kaidou and king went to marineford of course they would’ve backed down from the entire red haired pirate crew. It’s the same reason why greenbull bailed out at wano when shanks and his crew showed up etc..
True, extreme diff either way because it's even been said in ace novel that if yonkos were to fight they won't survive
Shanks loses. People are forgetting he’s a fucking human. I agree it’s an extreme diff for kaido because he will be getting hit by sword attacks but kaido wil be able to tank more damage compared to shanks. It’s like people are forgetting shanks weakness
Luffy's a human with a devil, and he beat Kaido. your point?
@@jasontchoudjen9740 Shanks doesn't have gear 5, your point?
@@jasontchoudjen9740 luffy can’t beat a fresh and serious kaido😂
We never even saw kaido's full power against luffy. Chapter 1045 we see a luffy out of energy and kaido lets him rest. While kaido is holding onigashima and fighting for control over it's movement with momo. Chapter 1043 also states kaido was deeply wounded going into it, whereas Luffy got a revival. I'd say Kaido beats luffy even now and Shanks 1 shotting kidd is cool but he did catch him offguard against a kidd who is immobile and cannot move.
Yamato literally states everyone is injured lol. So no excuse for Kaido.
Lufft was still injured even in G5 and this is proven by ch 1045 + Luffy states he can fight *a bit* longer.
Plus, Kaido's Haki was getting stronger according to ch 1037
Luffy > Kaido
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@@BeastXIS Luffy won because of Haki and strength too, but mainly haki, cause nothing is above the will of D. that's my guess
@@BeastXIS unless you can quantify how weak luffy was ur entire point is stupid. Chapter 1070 exposes gear 5s flaws and how without even taking damage he was gassed out. same tro chapter 1045. Kaido slams.Luffy was dead not injured. he was at 0 percent and was revived.
@@BeastXIS Also kaidos haki got stronger doesnt meab luffys is. he got dtronger against a weaker luffy and rayleigh states you het stronger from fighting so this is no surprise 🤦stop the mc love
@@mrskat317 that's the point. Luffy and Kaido were both unquantifiably fatigued. So to prove Kaido > Luffy, you would have to prove that Kaido was more fatigued than Luffy (which u can't)
The difference between ch 1045 moment and ch 1070 moment is that Luffy explicitly notes that he was dying before getting G5 after Kaido noted that Luffy was at his limit.
He even forced himself to fight by restarting his heartbelt which Kaido told Luffy to be careful about that or he'll die.
Meanwhile in ch 1070, he returned to normal in a few seconds and his time limit did not run out, he just returned to base
Kaido's Haki getting stronger does matter because Luffy literally overpowered Kaido in a conqueror Haki clash. And as Rayleigh implies, CoC ties to strength
So yeah
After kaido doing all these feats in one piece,
According to feats kaido is strongest, but someone said no the he is l*cking his fav character
Shonen "Power Creep" is gonna make Kaido into a little bitch who would get one shotted by Akainu.
Luffy can defeat Kizaru, but Aokiji, Blackbeard, and certainly Akainu... low to mid dif Luffy. One Piece is Shonen.
Power creep is for the main cast luffy and zoro can surpass kiado but no other character needs to be that strong besides bb maybe
Akoji was struggling with old garp he ain’t beating luffy nether akainu if he couldn’t finish a weakened wb how is he gonna beat luffy
Idk why people think they fought yet both were shown to have no injuries from the meeting
Yeah, only logical explanation would be if it was another situation like the clash we saw between Shanks and Whitebeard. But it's hilarious to think Kaido would ever be content with just that
I really hope oda gives shanks the best feats in the series so everyone praises him and is hypes as fuck
And then imu comes out of pangea castle and ONE SHOTS him with a single weak ass attack
Great video. I completely agree with you
Great video bro! Also just out of curiosity, would you consider the fact that Luffy was holding onto Kaido for his final attack as something to talk about? Cause in my opinion, the fact that Luffy was holding onto Kaido and Kaido then said that, he wasn't gonna dodge he was gonna take the attack head on, should be apparent that he could've dodged if he wanted to.
Although I understand the angle I think it’s irrelevant to the general narrative of the fight. If Kaido was stronger he would have won the final clash. I’ve gone into more detail about this in another vid.
@@zagessj Kaido was severely compromised at this point while G5 gave Luffy a full revival and stronger than he’s ever been
@@jocoolshow no he wasn't 💀. Luffy literally said multiple times he was out of breath and ws literally dying
@@Zeno1781 Yea he said that after Kaido pieced him up and hit him with different attacks. On top of that, new gears always have drawbacks, and we see on in Egg Head that Luffy still gets drained and ages even when using G5 ‘at full health’
When he went G5 vs Kaido, the first thing he says is that he just lost and he’s wondering why he can stand and why he’s having a blast. Then he says he can keep fighting, he feels like anything is possible and he’s at his peak
@@jocoolshow Then he drains back to an old man and says he is dying. Luffy was not at his peak and so was kaido. They both got significantly weaker
Shanks is that naked guy fighting with a metal bat kaido is that guy who is fighting with a wooden bat but wearing a metal armour kaido still wins physical strength, endurance, durability, healing,hax, etc all goes to kaido
Amazing video
i think they are evenly matched in a 1V1 scenario, i really dont see shanks being tankey thought so 3 or 4 thunder baguas and he ded, in the short term shanks comes out on top, in the long term Kaido, in crew vs crew scenario shanks negates him.
2:28 Bold of you to assume he and Big Mom's dead.
😂😂😂
very bold even. kaido and big mom are coming back and fusing; the raid WILL fail
Tbh I think that the two monsters, both with “unbreakable skin” and fire based attacks/defenses (Kaido is able to use magma in his dragon form and BM has Prometheus who is very versatile) could easily have survived hanging out in magma for awhile. I feel like if Oda wanted to definitively kill them, he’d have dropped them off Onigashima into the ocean. Idk why else he’d have them “die in magma” otherwise. They’re two of the 10 strongest characters in the verse, depending on how things play out ofc.
@@rorank Not to mention, the unfinished business Kaido has vs Luffy (rematch) and Big Mom's backstory on Elbaf.
@@mstr293 Not to mention Big Mom's pirates went missing
Remember what Kaido said: Haki is supreme
Hope you aren’t implying from what you said that shanks>kaido bc that’s stupid
extreme diff for shanks if kaido doesn’t go full out at first. but haki wise shanks clear rooftop luffy and kaido and can kill obs haki 😂 we know those ACOC hits hurt kaido so it’s safe to say shanks can win once kaido had his FS/OBS haki turned off. Also, shanks has been shown to have insane physical stats catching
up to pure light (movie feat) or pulling up to kid under 3-5 seconds after seeing the future. Also, oda has highlighted his physical stats in SBS as well. Don’t get me wrong tho kaido in hybrid form is a tough one to beat but with ACOC and maxed out haki stats I think shanks wins extreme diff.
TO be honest, Sanji, Luffy, Kaido and others are clear MFTL, some people only say Kizaru is Light speed which tells us they are watching two piece
@@OutletR Kizaru is pure light any feats catching up to him are insane especially as a base human with no fruit lol. Also, ur reading two piece if you don’t think someone who’s the embodiment of light isn’t top 3 fastest in their verse. Also, sanjis best feat is being able to perception blitz and go invis but it’s on queen that’s not really much since queen doesn’t have any good obs feats lol. Shanks read the future and reacted in 3-5 seconds to knock out two people that were on rooftop.
It’s never been said or shown that Kaido fights with his future sight. He’s confirmed to only have used it while dodging snake man. So say he would lose without it is not accurate
He is so strong that his hand was stretched out by fish . And his eyes are marked by blackbird those hypie fans are insane . Shanks will lose inevitably without his crew against kaido .
I think when Kaido says there are only a few people capable of fighting him and remembers Rocks, Whitebeard, Roger, Oden and Shanks, he's actually saying those 5 can defeat him or they are so similar to Kaido's level that the result of the fight is unpredictable. So I think Kaido is kind of equal to Shanks in power, it actually doesn't matter if Shanks is slightly superior, the difference is small enough.
Nah I think he's just saying what he's actually saying, and it's that those guys are some of the few that can actually fight him and not get swatted away
Nahh oden gets clapped by current kaido.
@@Rujewitblood Then what about Big mom?
@@ratio8099 Kaido said " You're not Oden " when the red scabbards tried to Kill him, means Oden's level is still considered by Kaido. Even Zoro who has the Enma couldnt really hurt Kaido the way Oden did
@@gravito1573 Well it's just a cool panel with silhouettes of strong guys, I don't think it would make sense to try and shove every single character that can put up a fight with Kaido, at that point in the fight we were finding out about applying conqueror's haki to your attacks, so to me I interpreted it as these are guys Kaido met who are able to do that
The One Piece fandom is plagued by recency bias. There are people now saying old Garp who's semi retired can beat Kaido simply because of one feat he just got.
oda will confirm it sometime in the story one side wont like to hear it but we'll see
I don't understand how the author can say that this guy is the strongest living being any way you slice it, but people don't want to accept it, why? He had to fight basically a whole army and the main character with multiple revives and powerups, while holding the whole island, for it to make sense that he lost, but now Shanks one shots Kid, something Kaido could easily do, and people think there's some kind of an argument, it's bizarre. Its like the whole thing with Mihawk. Oda is giving these characters titles for a reason, but just because Whitebeard got sick and lost a lot of strength, people now think every title is a fraud. There's a reason Greenbulls bitchass didn't even dare to show up on Wano when Kaido was there, but he was ready to capture the guy that 'beat' him lol
The author never said that Kaido is the strongest, he's referred to as the strongest in the story. Why would Oda reveal who the strongest is to the audience??? Yall dumb af.
Know whats crazy? Everything we think or know about about Shanks' power and status < Mihawk.
A man of culture I see
Mihawk fans gotta be the most delusional and starving fan bases out there.
@@TheSlithice hop off shanks meat
yea but thats only because shanks lost his arm it was always heavily implied they were equals before tho
shanks was stated to not have lost ANY power after losing his left arm
in fact, his bounty back then was about a billion, now its over 4 times that
Zoro was capable with just ryou slice trough Kaido and with Asura even permanently scar him,so Shanks who is the best Advanced Conqueror Haki user we know as of now and second strongest swordsman after Mihawk bodies even somebody as strong as Kaido mid diff at best.
After zoro sliced kiado he went on to take adv coc attacks from luffy and yamoto kiado wins
There are a lot of One Piece villians that fans feel they need to defend. Just shows you how powerful the show is.
Or how stupid the one fights are
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Shanks has shown nothing impressive because Kaido has already shown all the stuff he is doing. Kaido wins because of his durability factor, shanks was taking damage to civilians. Lets give Shanks being faster than base Kaido but Hybrid Kaido is 3 to 4 shotting Shanks if he doesn't block
you act like he couldn't block, shanks kills future sight, while shanks would be able to use his throughout the fight. Making it very easy to predict kaido, shank's attack power seems higher than kaido meaning that yes Kaido is more duarble but he doesn't hit as hard. Meanwhile kaido has speedblitz luffy while being next to him, while shanks speedblitz'd kid from being more than 500 meters away with ease. Hes clearly faster than kaido, theres a big reason why shanks stopped kaido from showing up to marineford
@@OGTwist so he needs to block? how pathetic. Cry lol
@@OGTwist You don't know if he's faster than Kaido, and if he is faster than Kaido its still relative. Shanks had a run in with Kaido, nothing to indicate they fought.
@@tawchaentertainment1488 Well I would assume he needs to block, I guess we don't truly know. And Shanks's speed feats, are better than Kaidos. So therefore he is faster. Thats how this works
@@OGTwist is this cancelling observation haki actually cannon?
Latest ep again further confirms holding up the island takes considerable effort. Both when skyplit and the awakening happens the island shakes and tremors are seen throughout it, as Kaido is forced to put more effort into the actual fight than moving the island. It's very tough to lift the island let alone keep it moving for that long while confidently taking attacks from 5 supernova. Undisputed WSC. Also regarding Oden scarring WSC Kaido, younger Kaido is MUCH weaker than Prime Kaido. Shanks, as we already know was only worth a bit over a bill and yc1+ just 7 years ago. The Kaido you're saying got scarred is from 20 years ago just like BM. Don't make up shit. Even then, Kaido was able to keep fighting after taking Oden's attack and never showed any other forms. Nevertheless, his haki and DF mastery were incomparable to what they are now.
His race and Df give him too much of an edge over Shanks.
Agreed most level headed break down
Shanks negs. Sucks to suck.
@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 Oh he finally stopped camping out on random islands and hiding ?
@Woosh Somebody has to give Luffy an incentive to grow stronger, and Kaido got wrecked already lmao. Now that the appetizer is done, we'll see what a true Yonko is capable of.
The fact that Shanks is comparable to Kaido at all given he lost his sword arm and doesn't have a DF should be enough to prove that he's just on a different level from Kaido.
@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 to each their own. You're free to have your opinion but you ain't changing mine so idk what ur trying to achieve
The reality is we don’t know enough to make a judgment. All the “narrative” arguments are mostly just word salad tbh. The most convincing one (which I still don’t think is enough), was the fact that shanks one shot Kidd while Kidd was able to hold his own on Wano, but the thing is you could argue Kidd was off guard anyways.
nice video. after the recent shanks feat i can see shanks ending up becoming stronger than kaido the way oda writes his feats. and haki surpassing all narrative
Full power kiado vs full power luffy
IMO Kaido takes it
Shanks is not the only emperor ever who didn’t use devil fruits. Roger was another one. People seem to not realize that before Roger was the King of the pirates he was a Yonko as well he was not just a regular pirate captain…
I think 1 armed shanks loses
kaidou beats shanks to many statements says he’s the strongest
and lost to a 19 year old. and kaido lost 7 times prior to this he isn’t invincible ☠️ Titles aren’t end all be all💯
I get it
but dont just take the title literally without considering the hype and portrayal of certain characters..
and the interaction or perception between them
yet he lost. Titles mean nothing
A title is BS, even if ZoLo beats Mihawk and Shanks is still alive or Law is alive he will not be the strongest swordsman.
Whitebeard was stated to be worlds strongest man but we all know Shanks could have chopped his head off anytime.
Kaido is stronger, shanks overrated
Oda literally nerfed kaido into losing to luffy so that luffy would come out victorious and shanks could also face a similar situation in the end . Kaido was always intended to be the strongest and that's the reason why he was defeated by luffy in such a manner that he wouldn't be dislodged from his tittle of strongest
Yeah, he was mad and sad when he killed Luffy and won because of that cp0 agent. Means he wanted some legitimacy at the end when he said " I won't run "
cry 😂😂
Massive cope. Kizaru > kaido
Shanks takes a dump on kaido unfortunately
maybe 13 year old kaido yes but onigashima kaido murders shanks, goes back in time to the beginning of the fight to then murder him again
No he doesn’t if shanks wins it’s still extreme diff
@@Buggy_DClown the longer oda waits to give someone more attention in an arc, the stronger they will be. I reckon strawhats Vs redhair pirates is next arc probably so they'll have to be stronger than kaidos crew
@@zoan3217 not necessarily that would only be true if luffy is > his last major opponent, which he is not
@@Buggy_DClown if shanks and luffy clash much later in the series when luffy is already stronger than he was back in wano im pretty sure we can say shanks is on a higher level bro kaido himself said only haki can rule the seas he himself said it devil fruits really are just like attachments on a gun
Also everyone forgets kaido history, he is the most incredible pirate ever, is like the chosen one kind of, he was an oni so he was incredible strong, at 14 years old strong enough to be wanted by Rocks, therefore a power comparable to a non prime Whitebeard and no prime Big mom, at 14 years old! Then when he grows up, he makes the most disrespectful thing to WB PRIMEs family (killing a member and humiliating his reputation and legacy, his descendants whom WB knew himself and his entire contry for ever if it wasn’t for luffy, even Oden wrote, if i am not capable of defeating him then in 20 year (Joyboy) kaido will be defeated), because Oden was extremely powrfull, after a Wordwide history breaker round with Roger and another worldwide tour with WB prime, he learned a lot of haki mastery and indeed put as close or relative as Pirate King level, so he knew Roger and WB would not win or try to win against Kaido because he is powerfull enough to be more of a bother than a desire to vengeance even though they consider Oden as family!! Kaido was strong enough to even WB prime consider a 1v1 vs Kaido as a 50/50 chance, because i dont see any other way someone so good as WB would intentionally let oden child’s, friends, family and country to be slaved and humiliated to death and not fight back!
I think shanks would win because his haki is stronger therefore giving his attacks more power and then on top of that he may be able to neutralize kaidos future sight completelty which is jsut gonna allow him to land free hits while still being able to dodge alot of kaidos attacks
Kaido oneshots Kid aswell and is so durable Kids blasts don't even matter
Kidd literally did 0 dmg to Kaido the entire time lmfao and yes you're right. Shanks had to jump in and try to prevent the attack and not block it head on like Kaido would for a reason haha.
@@woosh1342 Yall dumb as fuck lol, he was trying to prevent his own fleet from getting destroyed.
Kid went from 400million to 3billion without even being able to K.O Big mom. At that time he got humbled by Big mom's pirates, the only one who held his own was Urouge. Luffy at that same time, fought half of Big mom's children ALONE, defeated Cracker (with some help but doesnt change the fact that those biscuits and crackers were no match for Luffy). He defeated Katakuri and earned 1.5billion berry and got clapped by Kaido in a one shot. Kidd only awakened his fruit, he didnt really improve in terms of Haki. My opinion is that the Luffy post WCI was better in terms of DF and Haki than the Kid we have right now with 3billion berry
@@woosh1342 Kaido plays around, don't kill his enemies, Shanks doesnt care about that and jump into Action. The only time Kaido got very serious was when he was in his blood thirsty drunk phase, he even killed Luffy with that
real question mihawk vs kaido. I mean many ppl think mihawk is stronger than shanks and its suggestive that he really is so mihawk above kaido ? what yall think ?
Shanks wouldn't be that durable as kaido mostly shanks durability can be equal to rayleigh
and he is very intelligent too , his IQ and BIQ Are on another level and with his OBSERVATION HAKI he can simply dodge them instead of tanking them
With that much high observation haki he can dodge attacks till the end of battle
It makes more sense that dodge >> tanking
So what do u think more durability is best or best Observation haki and using it in correct way(IQ== CORRECT WAY)
I will go with best Observation haki
Kaido wins. I could go on all day about scaling feats and statements but everyone here should already know that. Until/ unless shanks gets better feats. Kaido is still stronger
Yes shanks did one shit kid but he was serious from the start and after he saw the future he didn't let kid fire the rail gun... And I don't think he could one shot kid if he could actually fire it but yes I do think shanks takes the W here but it will be a very close fight with the Victor barely even standing
I honestly don’t know how shanks would be able to put kaidou down with something on the scale of that Devine departure, kaidou is too durable and too tough for shanks imo, only joyboy could take him down bro oden pretty much agreed with this notion and his wife who can see into the future set these things into motion.
I highly doubt shanks is above gear 5th joyboy luffy let alone kaidou in his flame dragon form 😅 there is nothing that he has shown that would allow him to put kaidou down and keep him down. Sorry
Kaido: I wanna see how strong he is, I won't dodge.
_Moments before disaster_
Shanks: *DIVIDE DEPARTURE*
Kaido: 🐲☠️🍣
Kaido never fights like that
okay so you are ignroing the fact that in One Piece Chapter 996’s title: The Island of the Strongest
And they are referring to Kaido’s Onigashima.
Which at least confirms Kaido is the strongest pirate alive right now, meaning he is stronger than Shanks.
It is questionable whether this title means Kaido is just the strongest living pirate (meaning he is stronger than Shanks, Mihawk, Big Mom, Blackbeard etc.) or the strongest living being (which would mean he is stronger than Garp, Sengoku, all the Admirals, Dragon, etc.), or if he even is the strongest being in history (stronger than Roger, Whitebeard, Rocks, etc., but if you claim that it means that he is the strongest in history, you are going to have to provide more proof).
Whichever one of these interpretations you have, no matter what, Kaido is stronger than Shanks.
“Our opponent is the strongest pirate in the world.” - Killer.
“That’s right.” - Eustass Kidd.
he was called in a vivire card the strongest man alive
any interprataion of any of this statemants put him way above shanks
and then in rooftop he got amped a lot
kaido will destroy shanks
and they never battled
Shanks and Kaido had a skirmish - not to sound condescending, but a skirmish/scuffle is a brief exchange, not a full-blown battle
@supernova336 Stop sucking Kaido's dick. Hate to break it to you, but Kaido isn't the main antagonist of One Piece. Literally, all it would take is Oda expanding more on Shanks' abilities and all the "Durrrr world's strongest creature" talk ends. He got beat, the story isn't over, Luffy is going to fight people stronger than Kaido. Blackbeard is likely going to end up even stronger than Kaido, let alone Shanks.
Kaido already recognizes how strong Shanks is, he’s not gonna test how strong Shanks is, unlike what he did to the worst generation.
And not to mention that no move in the entire series can one shot Kaido, even if you go into head canon, he still isn’t getting one shotted by top tiers like White Beard and Roger.
meanwhile kaido: death destroyer thunder bagua
I think kaido is a little stronger or they’re even, but Shanks crew is full of advanced haki users unlike kaido. so I think when they clashed his crew was the deciding factor in kaido giving up on the war.
We don’t have any confirmation for any of the red hair pirates having advanced conquerors other than shanks. Idk where you’re getting that from
Shanks vs gear 5th, who you got?
5th gear
I think Shanks will be roger ~ Wb level
this being released on April 1st is kinda sus
I guess we’ll never know 😂
kaido has more on screen feats but i still think that shanks is more powerful
Kaido is stronger is than shanks but shanks crew stronger then kaido’s crew.
Kaido beats shanks he said it himself the only person that could beat him is joy boy shank fan boys gonna still try to argue
kaido is strong but he wont be the strongest in order for the series to progress stonger characters and antagonists have to be introduced
its a reoccurring thing in one piece as we all know
Shanks stomps mihawk though
@@slimmy478-6 Mihawk>shanks
@@BONES4pf In your wet dreams
I might get called a shanks wanker but man shanks and his crew would have defeated marines at marine ford for sure.
Idk about bb since he is a coward and would prob run and use quakes to run.
The reason why oda didnt go for it was prob because he would have to introduce so many new chars to replace the dead ones and then there is also garp who might have died too.
The funny thing though since this is oda we are talking about he might turn that clash into a gag where shanks invites kaido to drink and he gets him so drunk kaido gives up.
That said maybe it was shanks who told kaido about kid,hawkings and apoo aliance and where they are.
Bro you really trying to say that gear 5 luffy right now has stronger haki than shanks??? Because there is no way on gods green earth that luffy has haki even near shanks yet!! Which means kaido is getting slapped backwards and forwards by DADDY SHANKS
I do think it’s very close between him and shanks extent diff but the top 5 in kaidos eyes all beat him I reckon.
I think Oden and Mihawk also beat him
I don't get It, Oden, Zoro can Scar Kaido, and we are talking 30 ribs bone broken Zoro, what makes you think Shanks wouldn't Just cut down Kaido specially with his mastery of Haki and Swordsmanship, the guy clashed with MiHawk and MiHawk would Slice Kaido like a Kebab,Haki + sword=dead kaido
if its 1 on 1, bet on kaido
Kaido didn't truly go all out till after sky splitter luffy if I remember correctly
I feel like Mihawk is like kaido with is nickname bc I think he has the best swordsmanship but overall power he's not on shanks level
I think the current strongest Haki user amongst the pirates is Shanks. Kaido clearly says Haki is what really matters, so I think in a fight till the end against Kaido, Shanks will win. Not saying it will be easy because like you said Kaido was doing a lot during is fight with Luffy. He was carrying an Island and basically fought all the strongest people on the island while knocking Luffy out 3 times. A full 1 v 1 battle Luffy probably would have lost, but after the awakening I think Luffy can go 1 v 1 verses Kaido, but I can't say the same about Shanks. It seems Shanks is still ahead of Luffy when it comes to Haki on every level. So yeah Shanks beats Kaido for me
Things are, Kaido's fighting style is way different from everything we've seen so far. Kaido rather tanks than dodge. I mean, he used future sight and even mimicked Luffy's attack with his body. Means he could have done that long ago, but he simply didnt want to. Even when Luffy pulled the Bajrang Gun, Kaido took it, he even said he won't run, implied he could have dodged the attack. I can't hardly see Shanks doing the same thing
@@gravito1573 since kaido is more durable he can tank them
Shanks wouldn't be that durable as kaido mostly shanks durability can be equal to rayleigh
and he is very intelligent too , his IQ and BIQ Are on another level and with his OBSERVATION HAKI he can simply dodge them instead of tanking them
With that much high observation haki he can dodge attacks till the end of battle
It makes more sense that dodge >> tanking
So what do u think more durability is best or best Observation haki and using it in correct way
I will go with best Observation haki
@@beastkaido11 I'll still go with Observation Haki, what I meant was that if Kaido used more of future sight like he did that one time against Snake man Luffy, things could have been much different for the supernovas. That's why I point the fact that their fighting style are much different, also Kaido plays around too much, while Shanks waste NO time
Kaido did haki is matters that's why he has ACoC and future sight.
Kaido also said he fought countless opponents and end up being the strongest. You shouldn't ignore this statement too.
You poor soul. I see you've lost your way. If I went to help each and everyone out, I'd have no time so I'll have you think that for now.
Especially after the green bull scene at the end of wano, Shanks having the strongest conqueror's haki is pretty obvious at this point. Shanks wore the straw hat just like Roger, and just like roger Shanks has no devil fruit and only haki. Imo, he is without a doubt the strongest yonko and the current pirate king level character in one piece.
Ok Shanks stopped Kaido from coming to MF pre ts
Kaido is stated to be the strongest pirate post ts
That means either shanks beat kaido in a unfair way that he didn't become the strongest pirate or
Kaido became the strongest pirate post ts
But i still got Shanks over him since
Luffy>=Kaido
And it wouldn't really make sense if luffy was already stronger than Shanks
Also Black beard is bum whose words can't be trusted since he wasn't the worlds strongest pirate
And Black beard didn't want to fight someone like Shanks or Akainu at MF since he would gain nothing from it besides some more fame
Also yeah Shanks one shot killer but not kid
Since it was kids own attack that knocked him out since all shanks did was blow up his own attack
3 sentences :D
Shanks fought Kaido before.
Shanks is in Kaido's top 5.
Kaido has been caught by a Yonko multiple times.
If you honestly think Shanks lost to Kaido in their fight, he aint gonna be alive after their fight 💀.
Shanks Only emperor ever to not have a devil fruit *Gol D Rodger: Laughs*
Roger wasn't an emperor
@@abbamalami9171 so he instantly became pirate king? He didn’t have to work to become yonko? Sounds unlikely to me. He was equal to white beard for a period of time and we know white beard was an emperor for decades
@@LuminaPath Roger was never referred to as an emperor, the emperor system was most likely created after Roger's death to share his power
@@LuminaPath Bruh, an emperor is the title gained by pirates who are essentially war lords.
Whitebeard had territory and an army, same with kaidou, big mom and Shanks (even though his i guess territory and army are where he gives out his flag to help them).
Roger didnt have any of that. He had a ship and a super strong crew but not a army nor territory.
Luffy will be the conqueror haki killer. He’ll be the conqueror of conquerors and able to shut off other supreme king conquerors haki
Kaido losts because Oda could've done better with kaido but chose not to.
More then likely, Shanks is more powerful then Kaido. As of right now with just Statements and showings Kaido is the strongest person shown currently.
Bro imagine if shanks had the invisible fruit omg
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Let’s not give shanks to much credit on that he literally pulled up on near death opponents ofc he wouldn’t mine taking them all on
Portrayal > Statements
Even until now I still think that Kaido is stronger than Luffy ..
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Absolutely. He tanked an absurd amount of damage leading up to the Nika battle and lufy still barely scraped through, winning once after losing like 3 times in a row
Only joyboy can bear kaido, even whitebeard was afraid
whitebeard was never duckin kaido bro😂 besides kaidos intro states he lost a couple times idc about the captured and shit by the navy but the fact they said lost before makes me think he lost to some people in the past
@@ShisuiDUchiha n*gga u didn't read manga properly,
Everybody loses when they are young.,, luffy loses 10+ times in past, even to crocodile.
At the beginning kaido also loses and get capture and to eat marine food.
@@ShisuiDUchiha n*gga who can real defeat current kaido,
Even if kaido get capture,
Do u think his army remain silent, kaido has the biggest army, and marine can't survive this war..
Meanwhile big mom also attack marine for support to kaido.
@@ShisuiDUchiha WB never going to wano to "avenge" Oden and save his people while WB was still in his prime still bothers me.
@@TheSlithice
One oden was already dead when he found out
Two going to war with another emperor poses way too many risks since they wouldn’t even be saving oden other than revenge
Let’s not forget shanks is missing an arm.
I don't think Kaido's durability is greater than luffy's Gear 5...
Pretty sure kaido isn’t dead just like big mom isnt
Definetly. They fell right into the hole where Pluton is. Since Wano isnt opene yet, we gotta go back there to see what's going with the people of Ebisu town, the Big mom's pirates who disappeared, and obiously to see Pluton. They're definetly appearing on the screen soon
Something for everybody to think about about. When Kaido is imagining all the people who are worthy like Shanks and Roger, did you notice that Big Mom wasn't there? She fought toe-to-toe with him for days and yet she does not get the honor that shanks gets. Notice also that shanks is compared to white beard, Roger, and Rocks. This definitely makes me think that shanks is pirate King level.
If you believe that kaido is at or above pirate-king level, then by all means make him the winner. Otherwise, I give this fight to Shanks
If shanks was "pirate king level", he'd take on kaido and big mom before luffy and co arrived. He would take on blackbeard instead of letting him go. It seems people can't just assume one yonko can be stronger than the other but just slightly, and fighting among them would cause more trouble than anything. As for why big mom isn't in kaido "list", who knows, perhaps because they were allied at that time ? She was old ? Or he just don't value her ? The last one would be surprising as he clearly respect linlin but also seem to think she is nowhere near her older self, as he was saying things like she became an invalid when kidd and law took her out from the roof.
@@obmis_arraid21 with all due respect, Blackbeard was not going to win if Shanks fought him at Marineford even at full health. Blackbeard knew that, which is why he chose not to fight. Shanks is not the kind of person who just jumps into fights unless he has a really good reason to. I honestly don't know why he let Blackbeard live at Marineford.
As far as not defeating Big Mom and Kaido, I believe it is because neither of them got in his way. Had either of them threatened any of Shanks's friends, I think he would have defeated them mid to low dif. His feats are really stacking up.
@@happychristian1173 yea ofc balckbeard couldn't win against shanks crew, it was to point out there's not that much of a difference beetween powerhouses. Kaido and big mom didn't threat shanks but they were in his way to the one piece.
@@obmis_arraid21 The downplay of Shanks is crazy.
@@unfortunatecircumstances8870 sorry of it looks like that, but what I'm saying work in both sides. Big mom was expecting the giants army so she can take on kaido, red haired and even whitebeard as she said. Kaido too never went for shanks poneglyph, that's what i wanna point out, there's no such thing as low diff or mid diff beetween powerhouses in one piece. That's why the world is "balanced". I really ain't downplaying shanks, but people high ball the shit out of hio everytime. I'm one of the biggest shanks fan, i watched his epic scenes i don't know how many times lol.
WHat are exactly Kaido feats again? Getting destroyed by garp and Roger? Losing to luffy? Almost getting killed by Oden before the old hag saved his life? Getting clapped by shanks who prevented him going to marinenford like he had planned and shanks came unharmed to marinenford. Imagine you having a plan to kill WB and on the way yu meet a 40 year old shanks who tell you turn around or I will clap you and he has to turn around IMAO. Kaido has 100 loses the dude is hyped for nothing. Shanks, BB, Im, Dragon. Akainu, Kong, The Gorosei they all clap him in 1vs1
What feats does Shanks have? Losing his arm to a fish, getting clapped by devilfruitless Blackbeard. Oden wasn't even close to Killing him, and on everything (except for Luffy) you said he was just 15-24 years old (close to that) and weaker than the one Luffy fought, So they're just goofy arguments and headcanon.
@@Chad-boshi Oh boy I have been ready for so long somebody to ask me what Shanks feats are so be ready to get utterly destroyed by me a guy from Denmark. SO Shanks feats are the following. making BB quit marinenford and saying "Im not ready for you". BB before that was ready to fight all 3 admirals garp and sengoku just not shanks big indication of his power. WHen Shanks aerrived Akainu started sweating didnt say or move inch again powerhouse. Then shanks showed God tier haki feats from distance made Greenbull tap. Shanks blitz Kizaru in movie approved by oda and he blized Kidd from another part of island so Shanks has shown so far to be fastest man in the verse almost like he can use son goku instant teleportation skills crazy stuff. Then he made Kaido turn around a guy who loves fight strong dudes didnt fight shanks or did he get clapped or sacred? Either way kaido turned around. I could go on and on SHanks is wihtout a doubt the strongest pirate and only one being close to him is maybe Dragon and Im. The scary part is that Kaido and big mom are not even close to his level mate
@@ososkic8673 lmao, I see no feats. Blackbeard also ran away from Akainu, same guy who was sweating like you say. Kizaru also got blitzed by Rayleigh lmao that dude can only be fast one direction at a time, even Sanji can speedblitz him. About the Kaido to marineford anything could've happened, it doesnt mean he was scared or whatever you want it to be, because it was offscreen. Also about the Kaido list, It's about people he believes can FIGHT him and use advance conquerors NOT beat him with no difficulty. Blackbeard also said that if he let Hancock go she would petrify him (which means he would get no diffed) also if there was a fight between Shanks and his crew vs Kaido and King, how is it that NONE of them were hurt? So yes you're arguments are still goofy and headcanon🗿
@@Chad-boshi That is also why I hold Akainu the fleet admiral to very high regards. I have akainu, shanks, dragon, IM, the gorosei, Kong etc all are above kaido. SOme of them are 10 stronger than kaido and then we have shanks, dragon and Im 3 guys that are substanstially stronger than kaido who would be clapped by gear luffy. Yes kaido beat luffy but he didnt kill or beat gear five luffy it was all the forms before that. Kaido is getting clapped by the sun god if they fought right here and now however shanks dragon, akainu and im arent getting clapped as of right now to the sun god.
@@Chad-boshi None of them got hurt? WHy shuld shanks get hurt when hs is much stronger than kaido LOOL. Benn beckman is like prime rayleigh 3-4x king level. DUde its a mismatch there is a reason we havent seen shanks fight all out yet. Oda saves strongest character to end show like shanks, benn beckman, mihawk and my favorite DRAGON a Prime Monkey clan member. Kaido got his has handled to him and dipped and then we had the 2 years time skip where he wounds healed ofc.
You said Mihawk was stronger than Kaido but apparently Kaido stronger than shanks ?! Doesn’t make any sense.
What are you talking about? He clearly means mihawk>kaido>shanks🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️. Not that hard to understand
@@ayeekoolaid520 yup not like Mihawk and shanks were equals back in the day or anything
@@mattc4266 BACK IN THE DAY. Not now
@@Zeno1781 yea I know shanks bounty has only quadrupled since than !!!
Just want to say Kaido never was proven to have advanced armament like ryou. I think that’s why Luffy won. Yamato couldn’t break her cuffs meaning you can have adavanced conquers and not have advanced armament. Also think that’s why Yamato was weaker even if she had advance conquerers for a long time.
All imma say is “one vs one bet on kaido”
@Cocncnc Luffy lost what you mean
@Cocncnc y’all act like Luffy won a traditional 1 v 1😭😭 Luffy and like 13 other people fought him. And not to mention kaido knocked him out 4 times before that
@Cocncnc that just means that Luffy surpassed him and the other yonko, not that Kaido is weak, gear 5 would 100% demolish Shanks
@Cocncnc luffy got knocked out 5 times big bro kaido won.
@Cocncnc I did kaido won
Stop it luffys df has nothing to do with this haki shanks clearly surpases año haki kaido has
in fact shanks is the only one alive in kaido top 5
Kaido’s portrayal sucks not comparable to Shanks at all. He himself put Shanks in the list of people who are a threat to him, a list that didn’t include Big Mom who fought him to a standstill for a night. Shanks isn’t getting tagged by fodder like Killer, Law, Zoro. He just destroys them immediately. A combined attack from Kaido and Big Mom was briefly stopped by Zoro 🤣
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@@jrbarn2019 It’s all facts I honestly have no idea how any of you respect Kaido compared to Shanks, Whitebeard, etc. Everyone accepts Big Mom is a fraud which by extension means you have to accept Kaido is bc again he couldn’t overcome her for an entire night. They’re rivals. Kaido was surpassed by Luffy, the narrative was that Joy Boy surpassed Kaido. Kaido would have won if Luffy got no help but that doesn’t matter bc Luffy is stronger now than when they started. It’s the same as how Katakuri was stronger during WCI but post WCI Luffy surpassed him. They went power to power at the end and Kaido lost. Now Luffy moves onto to chasing the true strongest people in the verse. Shanks, Blackbeard, and Im I suppose which is a weird one bc idk why he has just been chilling the whole series will just have to wait and see how Oda justifies that
@Kurokami Najimi bro stanks lost to an fish and bb and current stanks got punched out by civilians but kaido that has countless of feats and while extremely tired and damaged kaido had the upper hand in the fight against 5th gear luffy and Kaido still has the highest bounty and stanks himself finally bring up the one piece after big mom and Kaido was nerfed. Like, bro kaido didn't even awaken his devil fruit and Kaido was using about 1/3 of his strength in wano at best because kaido the whole time was letting 16+ people cut and punch on him with their ultimate attacks so no stanks is not kaido. Stanks is overrated and has plenty of plot armor plus people like you are the reason why we get laughed at in debates that we should be wining.
Oden was in the list and he got one shotted, Luffy was in the list too, plus the list is about people who CAN fight him and use advance conquerors, not about people that destroy him.
@@Chad-boshi facts
Shanks Him 🔥
One piece has become too boring for me to watch. So he’s a Zoan now. Pathetic. It’s just an excuse for the author to add more power for his main character. What’s next he becomes a logia? Lmao
Kaido wins against shanks - in a 1v1 I’m betting on kaido
I believe Oda lol if it 1 on 1 always bet on kaido
well see how strong oda makes shanks tho as we know antagonists only get stronger as the story goes on in one piece meaning kaido isnt going to be the strongest one in the series
Gear 5 luffy vs full power kaido
I think kaido win
Kaido is stronger bc of endurance not power. 1v1, bet on kaido
Kaido is him as a shanks fan
Kaido
I think with strong enough conquerors haki you can actually target the spirt of the devil fruit and cause the devil fruit to buffer out kinda like the yami though not as absolute having strong enough haki will minimise the effects with this shanks could really be danger to devil fruit users causung there fruit to act up making there attacks weaker or causing them to lose control of their powers I think Roger would have this to you could also do this to none devil fruit users makes no them lose focus and be under constant pressure kinda like being under fuji gravity you constantly have to have your haki defences up or your will will be crushed causing your haki to weaken Mihawk probably has some version of this we’re he Install futures into you so you will hesitate every time before you make a move
Shanks wins
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Kaido stomps shanks high diff
Shanks betta