I got the Pro 4x instead of the Dmax and Triton. It looks better and suites my needs for a ute. There's no perfect ute, all have their pros and cons, base your choice on what you gonna do with it and enjoy.
Just traded my Bt-50/Dmax for Navara after 2 years. Main reason: Navara was surprisingly quiet, no engine rattle, and much better ride due to coil spring.
Im from Chile South América and I Have bought the new facelift Nissan Navara. The engine is very good, in highway the cabin is very silence and quiet. I also like a lot the ride comfort of the suspension, is like a Suv.
Having the steering reach makes it a tick for the dmax for me. For us taller dudes it's crappy having your seat back to get the legroom only to find the wheel is not within comfortable reach!!! Should have been standard on all vehicles for at least the last 10 years.
If you are serious about off-roading then you should also view the test done by this channel on the off-road capabilities comparing 12 utes/bakkies, where the D-MAX really loses out to the Navara and many others due to its poor traction control.
Many people look at these cars as their daily for around town and a bit off-roading. But when you go through red dirt all the time you realise you need something simple and thats why it was easy for me to buy a Navara. Its just simple whether onroad or off-road. If you use a ute for what it was meant all the infotainment and flushy things are useless
Couldn't agree more I have a Nov 2021 pro 4x warrior and it has no elec. Seats or heated seats and I couldn't be happier about that, less to fail when you go for a bog hole swimming session lol😅
Quoted $71k for a Pro 4 X, and $68 for an STX. Dealership laughed at the sunroof option and said it wasn't possible due to COVID. Ended up at the Isuzu dealership later that day for an X terrain $62,200 drive away. Isuzu had a shorter lead time ( July v August) so it really was a simple as that!
Navara - Not reliable ? do you own an D23 NP300 ? I do and have for 5 years....did it's first 120Ks inside 2 years and done another 40 in the last 3 and never had any issues with it. Never broken down, never failed to start, never thrown a code. 1 battery and 1 set of discs and pads (which I chose to change to upgrade ayway). Going strong still. Still comfortable, still drives like new, still quick off the mark. Only deterioration is the leather on the drive seat bum area on the part I lean on the get in and out has cracked. That was probably due to me not conditioning the leather enough.
The comparison that I've been waiting for quite some time. Both are really good, but gotta pick one. I'd go for DMAX 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 though Navara still the better choice from most of the people here in the Philippines just because of the comfortable ride due to coil springs.
❤️🇸🇽 I'll go w/ the Dmax too, mainly for the engine choice. The PH Navara uses the 2.5 Diesel engine instead of the more fuel-efficient and reliable 2.3 Twin-turbo Diesel being used in TH and AUS. ✌️
@@Duck95ish yes, the only thing I realized was the one with 360camera is a much needed feature than the Autonomous Braking System. Also Be careful while driving it on muddy and wet roads, the brakes vibrates as hell and dont hold. I almost crashed at least 4 times
@@ironmangx-1969 could you do or change something to prevent it, or do you just struggle with the braking? That does sound a bit sketchy, and I intend to use the truck on a farm where mud and hills are part of the daily routine - can one pull the fuse out?
The Isuzu does have a wireless charging option, it's an extra but for whatever reason they have chosen not to mention it in any brochures, etc. It was $250-300 extra from the dealer from memory.
Nav for me mate. The local Isuzu dealer lost me with crappy finance options and average service so I walked over the road and bought a Navara. Their service is spot on and the cars the comfiest ride over all of the leaf sprung utes I drove before hand. Oh and pretty much 7l/100kms after a month in the real world
After watching this presenter's videos, I find a bias towards the Ranger. They are probably great, but all the rangers from the mid to late 2010's we used at work had a lot of reliability issues and sounded like tractors after a few years in the mines.
Do you drive this dmax daily? Or go for offroad? Im considering between these 2 for daily work and pick up my kids aswell, not going for offroad often though
@@zionc4554 Yes I do use it as a daily I have the x Terrain personally I really love it I love the design the features on the infotainment are amazing and no the driving systems are quite customisable I love the adaptive cruise and Lane departure makes driving on the highway really easy what I can recommend is take one for a test drive because if you order one it will take 12 months minimum to arrive do what I did and watch a lot of review videos including the four driving ones because I can still help make your decision and look at the Facebook groups
I had the dmax for a work vehicle and first thoughts were awesome. Although the longer you spend in it the less appreciation I had for it. The steering although light gets to be to sensitive and all the safety features ruin the drive. The nav although alot more basic it's still nice for what it is and ride is second to none. Also the after market mods on these things make them a far more capable vehicle . Iv had the nav for 3 months now and loving it
I chose dmax over navara.. Due to it's newer platform, new everything and best bang for your buck. I really like navara’s pro 4x warrior look. Unfortunately, that's the only think I liked. I test drove both, but I like how dmax drives.
I Paul, like the review. In the future can you start looking at transmission cooling, and other reliability items please. For some reason all the Journ's over look these basic items that add a huge reliability to the vehicle long term. Please start adding these components as a separate part of your reviews, on all duel cabs.
After having driven quite a few of these dual cabs and finding the performance all quite close and the utes with leave springs skipping over bumps which I personally dislike I found the navarra to be the best ride and the engine inside is quiet as well. The Hilux wollows around and skips over bumps I the rear it was a bit disappointing and to be honest It felt 90% similiar to a 2014 Hilux we had so the platform hadn't changed alot
I test drove both and found the camera quality in the navara to be made from an old potato. Bought the X terrain. One major concern though with the Dmax is the lane prevention “safety feature”. It’s seriously aggressive and will pull you back into your lane if you don’t use your indicators to unlock it. So what you say?? Imagine a tree branch on the road in a bend, cyclist(s) or any other anomalies that you might not be quick enough to hit your indicator before you make an emergency swerve. It’s down right dangerous. The first thing I do when I get going is to disarm it.
I take it this review was done in a studio as there was already a large amount of surplus film available from the individual reviews? Makes sense, I like it.
We weren’t going to wait 12 months for a dmax so went into a mazda dealer a month and a half ago and now Picking up our XTR BT50 next month so all up like 2 and a half months wait on a brand new 2022 model which is the same car as an isuzu but better looking interior and exterior just missing the extra year warranty.
I brought a 2022 st navara over the Ls dmax i drove them back to back and prefered the interior of the dmax over the navara by far but prefered the more quite cabin that the navara has. When it came to the engines I felt the dmax was zippy of the line but under powered for a 3ltr and it had nothing more to give at its top end range. As the navara was abit sluggish off the mark it had alot more to give top end which i prefer when traveling if i need to pull out and pass i felt alot safer and comfortable with the navaras performance.
With the Nissan black is the only 1 that doesn't cost extra white,red and grey are all 650 ... pearl paint I think but the white is nice as like a pearl sparkly white
Hi, I'm not sure if the suspensions and things like that differ depending on your area but at least in my country (El Salvador) I tested both pick ups (on some others) because I was looking for a daily driving car that I can use for off road or light work on weekends, I tried both and in the city, the Navara was far more comfy than the D-Max, the Isuzu felt in some road imperfections like an old Toyota Hilux and even if the interior itself was more luxurious and comfortable, when I drove it, it felt like a regular work car, not as premium as it looks while the Navara was a lot smoother. I bought the Navara because it's not going to be use as a working car everyday so the city ride was my priority and it felt far better on the Navara but I'm still in love with the Isuzu interior 🤣 at least here you can change many of those piano black pieces for a "wood" piece (it doesn't feel like real wood but it looks really great)
I bought the Navara over the Dmax - arrives at the dealer tomorrow. They have upgraded the drivers seat to powered, and I think it looks better from the outside, although the dmax has a better interior. Also I was persuaded due to the special deals Nissan was offering at the time which made the Navara about 10k cheaper overall than the Max
As a reviewer I think your clips second to none but as a reviewer you don't want to offend anyone so you spend most of you time on the fence this is a shame. Verdicts Outside subjective up to the individual so on the fence. Inside D-max but an option for Navara so on the fence. Infotainment no real verdict. Safety no real verdict. Driving Navara with no buts well done. Overall to the D-Max but again lets no offend any one so because of the wait go the Navara.
John Cadogan from Auto Expert is the only reviewer I have seen that commits or calls out manufacturers. But as a result he doesn't get any free cars (to review) or money from manufactures
Had a look at both on the weekend, and I love and hate things about each of them. Admittedly the dmax was an LS-U and Navara was an STX but same flavour none the less. Despite both being great cars I’d probably prefer to spend $65k on a new Hilux SR5, or wait for the new Amarok/Ranger and see what I can get for that price. Nothing fundamentally wrong with either Dmax or Navara but they both leave some to be desired, especially at that price point.
From up in Far North Queensland, our roads are horribly maintained (so potholes every wet season) and off roading/camping is the norm. From that country lifestyle perspective the Navara wins in my opinion, sometimes simpler is better when your looking for a practical ute. Dont get me wrong, the dmax is also a great choice but when i have to get into a ute, covered in dust/mud/rain im going to feel less guilty in a navara than the dmax, at a certain point the fancy flush nature of the interior contradicts the hard working nature of the ute (difference between poser and worker). For me the 360 camera is a huge plus for off roading on tight tracks. Overall I think they're both top market models for people looking to actually use the ute and not just drive around the cities looking "cool". It'll all come down to personal preference for the interior. Dmax is rather modern which some might like and the navara has a way simpler approach all be it with a more archaic design with all the buttons. What i've done is purchased Black Duck seat covers for my navara which adds less concern for the integrity of the original leather covers and of course the standard front dash mat. Still plan on giving it an ARB bullbar and rear bumper to really give it the edge offroad. Would also look great on the dmax. Lastly just to quote someone from another video review, take the quote how you like to... "Looks better than the Toyota Hijack, I mean Toyota Hilux and will outlive a Ford Recall, I mean Ford Ranger"
I went for the Navara, as when I went and test drove the dmax at two different yards both told me they wouldn’t even bother taking my name as the wait time was so long. So what the interior is nicer in the dmax but that’s what the wife’s suv is for, long trips in comfort. I use my Ute for work and can still take a family of four to the beach in reasonable style. Plus the Navara looks heaps tougher on the road.
D-Max all day long, navara has a bad name and bad resell, just google problems on each, navara is a joke of a 4wd, feel sorry for you don't keep it to long 😀
@@anthonymurphy6529 mate, Navaras are fine. My np300 has done 280K and no major issues at all. Literally only reason I've ordered a dmax is because they removed those blasted drink holders in the new nav. But other wise can't beat the coils and flex ability when offroading, also they rebound off corrugations alot better than leaf springs so you dont "dance" around graval roads. Will miss the nav and would buy another for sure. I'd argue they would outperform a dmax off road with the coil benefits. But I'm keen to get in new dmax.
So i have 2020 navara here in south africa.... we have a 12 outlet in the load bin. I went navara due to risk factor and hijackings here in Sa While the Dmax is not high risk. It is an awesoms bakkie and as it gains popularity theft will increase
I picked a bt50 over both. Lol. Best car ever. Looks great and has the Isuzu reliability. I’ve driven old Nissans, definitely don’t have any faith in them in the long run.
and I was quite surprised that the engine used by the Isuzu Dmax was different from the one used in Indonesia which only had a capacity of 1.9L Turbocharged Diesel😀👍
I'd go for the DMAX! Nissan has totally lost the plot! Why take out creature comforts? Tray on the dash is out, functional cupholders by the vents are out, it still doesn't have reach adjustable steering wheel, centre bin is small... CarExpert are the only journalists who ask the right questions as to why were things removed. Instead of progressing with the times and competitors, Nissan is regressing.
Nissan is done man, so sad. Ruined by Renault. Just look at what a bucket the D40 Navara was. How anyone could consider a Navara after that is beyond me
@@roocrew86 actualy mine has 200.000km without any serious problem,and also the d40s of others owners,so exactly,apart the "hahaha Nissan=Renault=shit" problem,Is a well done car
@@davidem02 I personally know of 2 d40 detonating under 150k kms. It's not a off the cuff comment it's well documented So much so that Australia consumer protection got involved. Coming from a datto owner and fan boy Renault has totally ruined nissan Look at their cars prior Patrols were brilliant, d20s solid, heaps of great sports cars. Now what, patrol isn't even offered with a diesel engine, quality issues as previously mentioned and a stack of shitty cars like xtrails and the pathfinder (wtf happened to that giant xtrails?) Its sad I loved nissan but they make 2 decent cars now, gtr and the patrol, that's it and the patrol is still a shell of what it was. If you have had no problems thats good but the exception not the norm
@@dolguldur4706 it should be on the website under accessories. I just asked the dealer and they said they had one and installed it for me the same week.
@@davidcori2440 ahhh i see...its from the official site...lucky aussie people get that..they even can chose which rim they want...we in Malaysia dont have any option at all..🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
How about seeing the results of some Dyno test in your reports. It is what's happening at the back wheels that is a true guide to power/torque. Some 4X4's loose so much of their power in the drive chain. Cheers.
I only buy these for recreational off road, and the navara is much better off road. Never really cared about creature comforts, I have a Range Rover Sport for that. I suppose it all comes to needs
navara vs dmax review that I've been looking for. The navara's front seat might not be comfortable, right? because there is no comment. not all cars are perfect, for me dmax is a complete package. saves fuel but the durability of the electric power steering is not yet known. Enjoy you video. Tq 😊
I’ve had both utes as work vehicles and didn’t like either, another company gave me a Ssanyong musso and I actually preferred it over both of them however at the dealership I got rubbish service from the Isuzu/ Ssanyong dealers I had to deal with for servicing etc. as a personal Ute if I was paying I’d go Hilux or Ranger, they’re both just better utes in general and obviously the price tags reflect this.
@@Dawgreen Agree that the DMax has so many features.....features to have to turn off to make it drive better. Need to go around a cyclist? better home lane keep assist isn't on! otherwise it'll try to run the cyclist over as it serves you back into your lane. Wanna slip around a turning vehicle....better be prepared for a sudden stop when it wants to autonomously brake on you instead.
Bought my pro4x 2months ago. Driving 18hrs with comfort.. collision brake did kick smoothly when tried arround 1 mtr safety distance. 360° camera is in deed very useful esp. with the passenger side "driver blind spot". Manual trans & set in 4low in muddy terrain very good grip. Milage now at 6'246 for 2 months...
I went the Mazda bt50 twin instead of the dmax. Longer km warranty with Mazda, and Isuzu can and has voided future warranty claims even if you put an aftermarket bullbar on it.
@@cheerscheers6042 i dont know where you live..in my country isuzu offered 7 years with unlimited mileage warranty..even CarExpert channel from aussie said isuzu offer 7years unlimited mileage warranty
If those were offered in the US, I’d chose the DMax. Nissan has a really bad reputation in the US for selling subpar cars to those that can’t afford anything else.
Nice one paul all though I think you’re missing the point. Which is that people don’t buy these cars as work Ute’s! any more but more as an everyday car use for towing and go to “the shop car” the dmax wins hands down…. I have one (dmax)and it’s not a work Ute…. I can tell you….
It's easy to overlook but the Isuzu also features extended diff breathers into the engine bay. Not even the Ranger offered these as standard despite their claims of an 850mm wading depth. There's also plenty of slack for a 40mm suspension lift. Just FYI
Trying to work out why you placed so much emphasis on the engine sounding like a diesel, or intrusive into the cabin. If we were talking about s luxury car you might have a valid point but they are a work horse ute with up spec interior's. Being too isolated means you miss something if it goes pear shaped. It part of "driving" the vehicle and driving the vehicle.
Engine i think Nissan is more better but body chassis Isuzu D-MAX is more better harder,for family comfortable both same but for offroad convenience better Nissan fuel economy consumption is Isuzu D-MAX so i see Isuzu D-MAX more better for offroad but Nissan better in highway terrain
Hi Paul in one of your reviews of the Dmax you mentioned that isuzu is installing 360 cameras on the xterrain as a retro fit. Is that still happening? The dealer didn't mention anything or haven't heard anything from them.
The sliding lid doesn't lose space when you consider you can stand things up when open. You can't do this with pop up lids. The sliding lid is way the better option in my opinion after owning both. Surprising that this not reviewed properly in the above video.
Great to see our 2022 ‘family cars’ have similar handling, suspension and 0-100km/h as the trusty 1982 VB commodore. That’s progress for ya. (And will see similar amounts of off road road work statistically)
VB stopped production in 1980. 0-100km/h 14.4 seconds, so about 50% slower than these two. Longer to stop from 100km/h by 25%. No electronic aids for the old Dor either, lay off the pipe mate.
@@craigdavid6668 good pick up. Top of the range 3.0litre D-Max/2.3TT Navara comparable to top of range VC Commodore in the day? The 126kw 1980 VC Commodore V8, 0-100 in 8.5secs. (Puts pipe down and smiles)
I bought the pro 4X it has the most economical fuel consumption among all the pick-up competition here in the Philippines and the ride comfort is almost at par with the Raptor in my test drive but the raptor is much thirstier and although the raptor has the class leading HP & Torque but it does not translate to how quick it is on actual drive maybe because it has bigger wheels and a higher stance just my thought though not sure.
i agree, it maybe the "leading in terms of power output. but i dont think its as utilitarian as your beautiful 4x. im wating for the Frontier to be released here in the PH but i might get it imported if they dont offer the v6 option
I’d take the DMax/ BT-50, I prefer the overall packaging and larger capacity diesel. I also prefer the VGT turbo configuration over the Twin/Sequential turbo setup in the Nissan.
Great comparison Paul, I was contemplating a Navara Pro 4x Warrior but found that the driving position was terrible( I’m tall at 193cm ). I just couldn’t live with it day to day which was a real disappointment.
That's interesting Mark, I am pretty tall too and ordered the Warrior for the extra bit of off-road ability rather than comfort. I looked at the Dmax but the wait list was sooo long. I come from a Jeep Wrangler so the driving position in the Warrior (and the other dual-cabs I looked at) was such an improvement I thought they were all great. Cheers.
@@jerryleeson hi Jerry any regrets with the warrior whats you feelings a year later? debating warrior and dmax xterrian and im same height and not sure if i give up the mechanical upgrades for better interior etc. am reluctant to do mechanical mods so i can avoid warranty blame etc on 3rd party items
I cant get my head around why anyone would buy one of these "up spec" utes. I went the base SL navara which has everything you need and nothing you dont and I got it drive away for 20k less then these asking prices. With the money saved I have built the vehicle up into exactly what I want it to be with money spare. But hey, no fancy stickers...
From my experience - Nissan though private, have a public service mindset. They follow but don't lead. They claim innovation which is a rebranding of something old. When they claim it is easy- you always roll your eyes because it definitely isn't. I can't understand how, as innovative as Japanese are, can carry on a leadership team in Nissan that lack vision and innovation and somehow get it all wrong most of the time. Given the potential, it defies logic.
Noted : This video is sponsored by Nissan, even though it's clear that Isuzu excels in infotainment, but he still defends Nissan with all its obsolescence
Navara, because the traction control works upfront with diff engaged. Isusu traction is almost non-existant. The 7spd should own the Isuzu past 120kmph, look at the ratios of the two. The navara will pull harder at illegal speeds. I use mine for off road fun and to commute between my construction sites, hardly loaded with anything heavy. It is most comfy at the back for my kids and smoother. I wasnt looking at features and what not, there are SUVs for that.
I got the Pro 4x instead of the Dmax and Triton. It looks better and suites my needs for a ute. There's no perfect ute, all have their pros and cons, base your choice on what you gonna do with it and enjoy.
Yep I have a warrior on order 2 month wait 👌
Well said...they are all great and all will serve anybody and everybody very well.
Both are 💩boxes and pale into insignificance compared to a ranger v6
@@jzmmm you must be mad
@@tyzon00800 cancelled it. It was taking too long and decided to get the new ranger instead.
Just traded my Bt-50/Dmax for Navara after 2 years. Main reason: Navara was surprisingly quiet, no engine rattle, and much better ride due to coil spring.
don’t you find the Navara to be lacking inside ? features and practicality
What year Navara did you get might I ask?
Im from Chile South América and I Have bought the new facelift Nissan Navara.
The engine is very good, in highway the cabin is very silence and quiet.
I also like a lot the ride comfort of the suspension, is like a Suv.
Bueeeeena compadeeeeeeee
Having the steering reach makes it a tick for the dmax for me. For us taller dudes it's crappy having your seat back to get the legroom only to find the wheel is not within comfortable reach!!! Should have been standard on all vehicles for at least the last 10 years.
I agree Gordon, I found the driving position on the Navara woeful ( I’m tall like you 193cm).
The one thing I wish me previous gen Isuzu had, steering reach adjust.
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If you are serious about off-roading then you should also view the test done by this channel on the off-road capabilities comparing 12 utes/bakkies, where the D-MAX really loses out to the Navara and many others due to its poor traction control.
Many people look at these cars as their daily for around town and a bit off-roading. But when you go through red dirt all the time you realise you need something simple and thats why it was easy for me to buy a Navara. Its just simple whether onroad or off-road. If you use a ute for what it was meant all the infotainment and flushy things are useless
Couldn't agree more I have a Nov 2021 pro 4x warrior and it has no elec. Seats or heated seats and I couldn't be happier about that, less to fail when you go for a bog hole swimming session lol😅
Quoted $71k for a Pro 4 X, and $68 for an STX. Dealership laughed at the sunroof option and said it wasn't possible due to COVID.
Ended up at the Isuzu dealership later that day for an X terrain $62,200 drive away. Isuzu had a shorter lead time ( July v August) so it really was a simple as that!
Design & Comfort go for Navara! Reliability & Safety Features go for D-MAX!
Navara - Not reliable ? do you own an D23 NP300 ? I do and have for 5 years....did it's first 120Ks inside 2 years and done another 40 in the last 3 and never had any issues with it. Never broken down, never failed to start, never thrown a code. 1 battery and 1 set of discs and pads (which I chose to change to upgrade ayway). Going strong still. Still comfortable, still drives like new, still quick off the mark. Only deterioration is the leather on the drive seat bum area on the part I lean on the get in and out has cracked. That was probably due to me not conditioning the leather enough.
@@allisterdavidson9805 typical for a. Nissan, very reliable.
The comparison that I've been waiting for quite some time. Both are really good, but gotta pick one. I'd go for DMAX 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 though Navara still the better choice from most of the people here in the Philippines just because of the comfortable ride due to coil springs.
@Hyp3xz Hello po! Agreed 😉
@Hyp3xz I think strada/triton is pretty good as well. Bang for the buck compared to the conpetition. Good choice po sir. 👌🏻
❤️🇸🇽 I'll go w/ the Dmax too, mainly for the engine choice. The PH Navara uses the 2.5 Diesel engine instead of the more fuel-efficient and reliable 2.3 Twin-turbo Diesel being used in TH and AUS. ✌️
How about the payload capacity for dmax?
I would take the D-max
I'd go with DMax. I actually bought one 😃 thanks to this channel
you still happy with it? any recommendations for anything I need to be on the lookout for?
@@Duck95ish yes, the only thing I realized was the one with 360camera is a much needed feature than the Autonomous Braking System. Also Be careful while driving it on muddy and wet roads, the brakes vibrates as hell and dont hold. I almost crashed at least 4 times
@@ironmangx-1969 could you do or change something to prevent it, or do you just struggle with the braking? That does sound a bit sketchy, and I intend to use the truck on a farm where mud and hills are part of the daily routine - can one pull the fuse out?
I would go with D-Max thanks Paul
Feeling better by the day knowing we paid 59K a year ago for our X-Terrain with tow bar and other bits Drive Away.
36K back in 2014
The Isuzu does have a wireless charging option, it's an extra but for whatever reason they have chosen not to mention it in any brochures, etc. It was $250-300 extra from the dealer from memory.
Nav for me mate. The local Isuzu dealer lost me with crappy finance options and average service so I walked over the road and bought a Navara. Their service is spot on and the cars the comfiest ride over all of the leaf sprung utes I drove before hand. Oh and pretty much
7l/100kms after a month in the real world
Funny how you picked the Isuzu but in one of your other videos Isuzu failed on traction and the uphill test. and the pro4x passed it
After watching this presenter's videos, I find a bias towards the Ranger. They are probably great, but all the rangers from the mid to late 2010's we used at work had a lot of reliability issues and sounded like tractors after a few years in the mines.
If Nissan change the interior and engine I would take the Navara.
Same
If only the nav had slightly bigger engine.
I just picked up my brand-new D max absolutely love it better than Navarra any day waited 12 months absolutely worth it
Do you drive this dmax daily? Or go for offroad? Im considering between these 2 for daily work and pick up my kids aswell, not going for offroad often though
@@zionc4554 Yes I do use it as a daily I have the x Terrain personally I really love it I love the design the features on the infotainment are amazing and no the driving systems are quite customisable I love the adaptive cruise and Lane departure makes driving on the highway really easy what I can recommend is take one for a test drive because if you order one it will take 12 months minimum to arrive do what I did and watch a lot of review videos including the four driving ones because I can still help make your decision and look at the Facebook groups
I had the dmax for a work vehicle and first thoughts were awesome. Although the longer you spend in it the less appreciation I had for it. The steering although light gets to be to sensitive and all the safety features ruin the drive. The nav although alot more basic it's still nice for what it is and ride is second to none. Also the after market mods on these things make them a far more capable vehicle . Iv had the nav for 3 months now and loving it
But the Nav has an underpowered shitbox engine...
@dr.killjoy5001 easy enough to get 30%+ Kw & torque gains
Was going to pick pro 4X as the exterior looks really good. But since saw the new gen ford ranger , I will wait without an hesitation.
I just picked my dmax up today, I had it optioned with wireless charging which I paid $350. I believe it was a retrofit which was fitted by the dealer
I chose dmax over navara.. Due to it's newer platform, new everything and best bang for your buck. I really like navara’s pro 4x warrior look. Unfortunately, that's the only think I liked. I test drove both, but I like how dmax drives.
I Paul, like the review. In the future can you start looking at transmission cooling, and other reliability items please. For some reason all the Journ's over look these basic items that add a huge reliability to the vehicle long term. Please start adding these components as a separate part of your reviews, on all duel cabs.
After having driven quite a few of these dual cabs and finding the performance all quite close and the utes with leave springs skipping over bumps which I personally dislike I found the navarra to be the best ride and the engine inside is quiet as well.
The Hilux wollows around and skips over bumps I the rear it was a bit disappointing and to be honest It felt 90% similiar to a 2014 Hilux we had so the platform hadn't changed alot
Whats ur take in durability and cost of ownership between nissan and toyota?
I test drove both and found the camera quality in the navara to be made from an old potato. Bought the X terrain. One major concern though with the Dmax is the lane prevention “safety feature”. It’s seriously aggressive and will pull you back into your lane if you don’t use your indicators to unlock it. So what you say??
Imagine a tree branch on the road in a bend, cyclist(s) or any other anomalies that you might not be quick enough to hit your indicator before you make an emergency swerve. It’s down right dangerous. The first thing I do when I get going is to disarm it.
Your insurer will love all your free insurance payments when they choose to never accept any claim you make if it's off in an accident 😢
I take it this review was done in a studio as there was already a large amount of surplus film available from the individual reviews? Makes sense, I like it.
We weren’t going to wait 12 months for a dmax so went into a mazda dealer a month and a half ago and now
Picking up our XTR BT50 next month so all up like 2 and a half months wait on a brand new 2022 model which is the same car as an isuzu but better looking interior and exterior just missing the extra year warranty.
They look ugly as hell
I brought a 2022 st navara over the Ls dmax i drove them back to back and prefered the interior of the dmax over the navara by far but prefered the more quite cabin that the navara has. When it came to the engines I felt the dmax was zippy of the line but under powered for a 3ltr and it had nothing more to give at its top end range. As the navara was abit sluggish off the mark it had alot more to give top end which i prefer when traveling if i need to pull out and pass i felt alot safer and comfortable with the navaras performance.
DMax any day for me.
Cheers 🍻
With the Nissan black is the only 1 that doesn't cost extra white,red and grey are all 650 ... pearl paint I think but the white is nice as like a pearl sparkly white
Hi, I'm not sure if the suspensions and things like that differ depending on your area but at least in my country (El Salvador) I tested both pick ups (on some others) because I was looking for a daily driving car that I can use for off road or light work on weekends, I tried both and in the city, the Navara was far more comfy than the D-Max, the Isuzu felt in some road imperfections like an old Toyota Hilux and even if the interior itself was more luxurious and comfortable, when I drove it, it felt like a regular work car, not as premium as it looks while the Navara was a lot smoother. I bought the Navara because it's not going to be use as a working car everyday so the city ride was my priority and it felt far better on the Navara but I'm still in love with the Isuzu interior 🤣 at least here you can change many of those piano black pieces for a "wood" piece (it doesn't feel like real wood but it looks really great)
You should have bought Toyota camry or Honda Jazz if it is mean for city driving.
I bought the Navara over the Dmax - arrives at the dealer tomorrow. They have upgraded the drivers seat to powered, and I think it looks better from the outside, although the dmax has a better interior. Also I was persuaded due to the special deals Nissan was offering at the time which made the Navara about 10k cheaper overall than the Max
As a reviewer I think your clips second to none but as a reviewer you don't want to offend
anyone so you spend most of you time on the fence this is a shame.
Verdicts
Outside subjective up to the individual so on the fence.
Inside D-max but an option for Navara so on the fence.
Infotainment no real verdict.
Safety no real verdict.
Driving Navara with no buts well done.
Overall to the D-Max but again lets no offend any one so because of the wait go the Navara.
John Cadogan from Auto Expert is the only reviewer I have seen that commits or calls out manufacturers. But as a result he doesn't get any free cars (to review) or money from manufactures
Had a look at both on the weekend, and I love and hate things about each of them. Admittedly the dmax was an LS-U and Navara was an STX but same flavour none the less.
Despite both being great cars I’d probably prefer to spend $65k on a new Hilux SR5, or wait for the new Amarok/Ranger and see what I can get for that price.
Nothing fundamentally wrong with either Dmax or Navara but they both leave some to be desired, especially at that price point.
Good luck with ranger. Hilux too old platform. I won't be spending a ton of money for an old platform.
The Navara is such a good looking UTE.
From up in Far North Queensland, our roads are horribly maintained (so potholes every wet season) and off roading/camping is the norm. From that country lifestyle perspective the Navara wins in my opinion, sometimes simpler is better when your looking for a practical ute. Dont get me wrong, the dmax is also a great choice but when i have to get into a ute, covered in dust/mud/rain im going to feel less guilty in a navara than the dmax, at a certain point the fancy flush nature of the interior contradicts the hard working nature of the ute (difference between poser and worker). For me the 360 camera is a huge plus for off roading on tight tracks.
Overall I think they're both top market models for people looking to actually use the ute and not just drive around the cities looking "cool". It'll all come down to personal preference for the interior. Dmax is rather modern which some might like and the navara has a way simpler approach all be it with a more archaic design with all the buttons. What i've done is purchased Black Duck seat covers for my navara which adds less concern for the integrity of the original leather covers and of course the standard front dash mat. Still plan on giving it an ARB bullbar and rear bumper to really give it the edge offroad. Would also look great on the dmax.
Lastly just to quote someone from another video review, take the quote how you like to...
"Looks better than the Toyota Hijack, I mean Toyota Hilux and will outlive a Ford Recall, I mean Ford Ranger"
I went for the Navara, as when I went and test drove the dmax at two different yards both told me they wouldn’t even bother taking my name as the wait time was so long. So what the interior is nicer in the dmax but that’s what the wife’s suv is for, long trips in comfort. I use my Ute for work and can still take a family of four to the beach in reasonable style. Plus the Navara looks heaps tougher on the road.
D-Max all day long, navara has a bad name and bad resell, just google problems on each, navara is a joke of a 4wd, feel sorry for you don't keep it to long 😀
@@anthonymurphy6529 mate, Navaras are fine. My np300 has done 280K and no major issues at all. Literally only reason I've ordered a dmax is because they removed those blasted drink holders in the new nav. But other wise can't beat the coils and flex ability when offroading, also they rebound off corrugations alot better than leaf springs so you dont "dance" around graval roads. Will miss the nav and would buy another for sure. I'd argue they would outperform a dmax off road with the coil benefits.
But I'm keen to get in new dmax.
😂😂😂 @@anthonymurphy6529 because there's not highly dicy issues with every 4wd ute on the aussie market... Muppet 😅
Exterior for the Navara! interior for the D-Max
So i have 2020 navara here in south africa.... we have a 12 outlet in the load bin. I went navara due to risk factor and hijackings here in Sa
While the Dmax is not high risk. It is an awesoms bakkie and as it gains popularity theft will increase
I picked a bt50 over both. Lol. Best car ever. Looks great and has the Isuzu reliability. I’ve driven old Nissans, definitely don’t have any faith in them in the long run.
I take dmax all day long againts those navara
and I was quite surprised that the engine used by the Isuzu Dmax was different from the one used in Indonesia which only had a capacity of 1.9L Turbocharged Diesel😀👍
I'd go for the DMAX! Nissan has totally lost the plot! Why take out creature comforts? Tray on the dash is out, functional cupholders by the vents are out, it still doesn't have reach adjustable steering wheel, centre bin is small... CarExpert are the only journalists who ask the right questions as to why were things removed. Instead of progressing with the times and competitors, Nissan is regressing.
Nissan is done man, so sad. Ruined by Renault. Just look at what a bucket the D40 Navara was. How anyone could consider a Navara after that is beyond me
@@roocrew86 exactly, what's wrong with de d40?
@@davidem02
Whats right with it
Google it
Very poorly made car
Timing chain destruction is the highlight
@@roocrew86 actualy mine has 200.000km without any serious problem,and also the d40s of others owners,so exactly,apart the "hahaha Nissan=Renault=shit" problem,Is a well done car
@@davidem02 I personally know of 2 d40 detonating under 150k kms. It's not a off the cuff comment it's well documented
So much so that Australia consumer protection got involved.
Coming from a datto owner and fan boy Renault has totally ruined nissan
Look at their cars prior
Patrols were brilliant, d20s solid, heaps of great sports cars. Now what, patrol isn't even offered with a diesel engine, quality issues as previously mentioned and a stack of shitty cars like xtrails and the pathfinder (wtf happened to that giant xtrails?)
Its sad I loved nissan but they make 2 decent cars now, gtr and the patrol, that's it and the patrol is still a shell of what it was.
If you have had no problems thats good but the exception not the norm
How sad is it that this video is only a year old and now $60k is dirt cheap for a mainstream Ute 😢
I like the dmax but for off road the nav for me, get the bar work/canopy, and the coil rear is a selling point for
I have DMax XTerrain on order since January. Expected delivery in Aug/Sep, maybe, hopefully.
i ordered mine May last year, finally got a call saying it will be in around April/May this year. Been waiting a year lol.
I ordered mine September and get it end of June. Call it a year wait
Isuzu D max perfect💪💪👊
Isuzu have the wireless charging mat option. I had it installed in mine. Should be standard though.
You have link for that?
@@dolguldur4706 it should be on the website under accessories. I just asked the dealer and they said they had one and installed it for me the same week.
@@davidcori2440 ahhh i see...its from the official site...lucky aussie people get that..they even can chose which rim they want...we in Malaysia dont have any option at all..🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@dolguldur4706 try mazda as well mate. The BT50 goes straight in and you can get it off ebay
How about seeing the results of some Dyno test in your reports. It is what's happening at the back wheels that is a true guide to power/torque. Some 4X4's loose so much of their power in the drive chain. Cheers.
Very good comparison Paul! ❤️🇿🇦
test drove both , and still went with the pro4x instead of the dmax as a lifestyle ute.
I only buy these for recreational off road, and the navara is much better off road. Never really cared about creature comforts, I have a Range Rover Sport for that. I suppose it all comes to needs
I just bought the nissan navara.. stx and I have to wait till August 😩 I picked the navara because of the price. And the waiting time..
navara vs dmax review that I've been looking for. The navara's front seat might not be comfortable, right? because there is no comment. not all cars are perfect, for me dmax is a complete package. saves fuel but the durability of the electric power steering is not yet known.
Enjoy you video. Tq 😊
2.11minutes you have the tray dimensions reversed for spec size between the vehicles The DMax tray is shown as shorter than the navara
I’ve had both utes as work vehicles and didn’t like either, another company gave me a Ssanyong musso and I actually preferred it over both of them however at the dealership I got rubbish service from the Isuzu/ Ssanyong dealers I had to deal with for servicing etc. as a personal Ute if I was paying I’d go Hilux or Ranger, they’re both just better utes in general and obviously the price tags reflect this.
D max for sure!
My choice : Navara
Reason : it's decked out with a ton of safety systems AND it's just more well defined then the D-MAX ( it's just my choice)
Navara has way less safety features than the Dmax .
@@Dawgreen Agree that the DMax has so many features.....features to have to turn off to make it drive better. Need to go around a cyclist? better home lane keep assist isn't on! otherwise it'll try to run the cyclist over as it serves you back into your lane. Wanna slip around a turning vehicle....better be prepared for a sudden stop when it wants to autonomously brake on you instead.
Bought my pro4x 2months ago. Driving 18hrs with comfort.. collision brake did kick smoothly when tried arround 1 mtr safety distance. 360° camera is in deed very useful esp. with the passenger side "driver blind spot". Manual trans & set in 4low in muddy terrain very good grip. Milage now at 6'246 for 2 months...
@@robinsonquimbo2153 I looked at a Pro4X but very disappointed with the interior . Very aged , same with Hilux.
I went the Mazda bt50 twin instead of the dmax. Longer km warranty with Mazda, and Isuzu can and has voided future warranty claims even if you put an aftermarket bullbar on it.
How mazda have longer km warranty when isuzu give 7years unlimited km warranty? Duhhh 🤷🏻♂️
@@dolguldur4706 the Mazda has unlimited km’s/ 5 year warranty. The Isuzu has 6 year warranty but limited to 150,000km
@@cheerscheers6042 i dont know where you live..in my country isuzu offered 7 years with unlimited mileage warranty..even CarExpert channel from aussie said isuzu offer 7years unlimited mileage warranty
@@dolguldur4706 straya mate, the country where car dealers like to rip you a new asshole.
Watch the video again, it says 6 years for dmax.
Why did nisaan remove the front cup holders and the dash coin tray with the 12v adapter...
D max is a no brainer
Bought my Dmax brand new back in 2014 for RRP $36,000
Almost double the price now 😳
@@tremolony4924 that's what generally happens. Inflation plus newer technology. Oh and Covid Tax.
@@skudaaron1986 bloody Covid tax!!
Agree most who buy them have no brain
@@tremolony4924 crap. Your nose will start growing ,
It's like you knew I needed this comparison. Thank you
If those were offered in the US, I’d chose the DMax. Nissan has a really bad reputation in the US for selling subpar cars to those that can’t afford anything else.
NEXT COMPARISON: 2023 Ford ranger vs 2023 Toyota hi-lux, please!
Nice one paul all though I think you’re missing the point. Which is that people don’t buy these cars as work Ute’s! any more but more as an everyday car use for towing and go to “the shop car” the dmax wins hands down…. I have one (dmax)and it’s not a work Ute…. I can tell you….
I’d go for the Pro-4X but I think it’d be better without the rear drum brakes.
It's easy to overlook but the Isuzu also features extended diff breathers into the engine bay. Not even the Ranger offered these as standard despite their claims of an 850mm wading depth. There's also plenty of slack for a 40mm suspension lift. Just FYI
Navara has extended diff Breathers too I’m pretty sure
Only problem is with a dmax I went to order one in January and earliest delivery was December
Ute-lization . Isuzu all the way.
Trying to work out why you placed so much emphasis on the engine sounding like a diesel, or intrusive into the cabin. If we were talking about s luxury car you might have a valid point but they are a work horse ute with up spec interior's. Being too isolated means you miss something if it goes pear shaped. It part of "driving" the vehicle and driving the vehicle.
Engine i think Nissan is more better but body chassis Isuzu D-MAX is more better harder,for family comfortable both same but for offroad convenience better Nissan fuel economy consumption is Isuzu D-MAX so i see Isuzu D-MAX more better for offroad but Nissan better in highway terrain
What are the recovery points rated at on the dmax? I can’t find the info anywhere
Isuzu Dmax and Mazda BT-50 the best in class for 2022
Hi Paul in one of your reviews of the Dmax you mentioned that isuzu is installing 360 cameras on the xterrain as a retro fit. Is that still happening? The dealer didn't mention anything or haven't heard anything from them.
The sliding lid doesn't lose space when you consider you can stand things up when open. You can't do this with pop up lids. The sliding lid is way the better option in my opinion after owning both. Surprising that this not reviewed properly in the above video.
Try loading a motorbike into a ute with a roller door.
wireless charging is an option
navara all the way
D Max👍
Like your reviews and accent
Great to see our 2022 ‘family cars’ have similar handling, suspension and 0-100km/h as the trusty 1982 VB commodore. That’s progress for ya. (And will see similar amounts of off road road work statistically)
VB stopped production in 1980.
0-100km/h 14.4 seconds, so about 50% slower than these two.
Longer to stop from 100km/h by 25%.
No electronic aids for the old Dor either, lay off the pipe mate.
@@craigdavid6668 good pick up. Top of the range 3.0litre D-Max/2.3TT Navara comparable to top of range VC Commodore in the day? The 126kw 1980 VC Commodore V8, 0-100 in 8.5secs. (Puts pipe down and smiles)
@@MrTroytroy Wrong again, 5.0 V8 VC ran 12.8 to 100km/h, the base model that made up most sales actually ran 17.7 to 100km/h.
@@craigdavid6668 SLE quoted at 8.5-8.7secs depending on source. Also comes with all round disc brakes 😂
@@MrTroytroy Down hill with an EFI swap maybe.
Lack of discs on the rear on new 4x4’s is actually unbelievable though😂
I bought the pro 4X it has the most economical fuel consumption among all the pick-up competition here in the Philippines and the ride comfort is almost at par with the Raptor in my test drive but the raptor is much thirstier and although the raptor has the class leading HP & Torque but it does not translate to how quick it is on actual drive maybe because it has bigger wheels and a higher stance just my thought though not sure.
i agree, it maybe the "leading in terms of power output. but i dont think its as utilitarian as your beautiful 4x.
im wating for the Frontier to be released here in the PH but i might get it imported if they dont offer the v6 option
Why would you bring your car manual everyday.
You should use a gps based 0-100 tool. “Stopwatch” method is never accurate.
Like the new format
I’d take the DMax/ BT-50, I prefer the overall packaging and larger capacity diesel. I also prefer the VGT turbo configuration over the Twin/Sequential turbo setup in the Nissan.
Great comparison Paul, I was contemplating a Navara Pro 4x Warrior but found that the driving position was terrible( I’m tall at 193cm ). I just couldn’t live with it day to day which was a real disappointment.
That's interesting Mark, I am pretty tall too and ordered the Warrior for the extra bit of off-road ability rather than comfort. I looked at the Dmax but the wait list was sooo long. I come from a Jeep Wrangler so the driving position in the Warrior (and the other dual-cabs I looked at) was such an improvement I thought they were all great. Cheers.
@@jerryleeson hi Jerry any regrets with the warrior whats you feelings a year later? debating warrior and dmax xterrian and im same height and not sure if i give up the mechanical upgrades for better interior etc. am reluctant to do mechanical mods so i can avoid warranty blame etc on 3rd party items
These are my 2 Ute options, I wonder which I will end up with
0-100km/h if you go by the analog display rather than the digital display the DMax is quicker. So test is not very accurate IMO
hello,can you please revisit the mitsu triton and test the traction control like you do with the dmax?
D-max for sure!
I cant get my head around why anyone would buy one of these "up spec" utes. I went the base SL navara which has everything you need and nothing you dont and I got it drive away for 20k less then these asking prices. With the money saved I have built the vehicle up into exactly what I want it to be with money spare. But hey, no fancy stickers...
Dmax always
From my experience - Nissan though private, have a public service mindset. They follow but don't lead. They claim innovation which is a rebranding of something old. When they claim it is easy- you always roll your eyes because it definitely isn't. I can't understand how, as innovative as Japanese are, can carry on a leadership team in Nissan that lack vision and innovation and somehow get it all wrong most of the time. Given the potential, it defies logic.
It seems that dmax is quicker on 0-100 test, or did I see it wrong?
I agree
In malaysia dmax xterrain price is around 47k aussie dolar
Go Dmax Go....
Bravo Isuzu
Noted :
This video is sponsored by Nissan, even though it's clear that Isuzu excels in infotainment, but he still defends Nissan with all its obsolescence
Dmax has wireless charging for $300 extra which I added when I ordered mine
Navara, because the traction control works upfront with diff engaged. Isusu traction is almost non-existant.
The 7spd should own the Isuzu past 120kmph, look at the ratios of the two. The navara will pull harder at illegal speeds.
I use mine for off road fun and to commute between my construction sites, hardly loaded with anything heavy. It is most comfy at the back for my kids and smoother.
I wasnt looking at features and what not, there are SUVs for that.
Same power and Torque... Navara advantage lower displacement.
Bigger displacement is better, dmax feels more powerful