Regarding the CRF 300 Rally vs KTM 390 Adventure, I test rode both, albeit only on the road. I did find a small parking lot that was unpaved and full of potholes near a construction site, but don't tell the Honda dealer that ^_^". Honda Rally felt ergonomically great for my 175cm stature and about 78cm inseam. I felt relaxed sitting on it. The handlebars are a bit low when standing up, but some bar risers will fix that easily. The tank is quite wide and my legs were a bit split apart. Power-wise, its not bad. It won't shake your world, but it gets you from A to B in decent comfort. The seat is wider than the usual dirt bike type seat, so kudos there. First gear is SHORT, which I imagine is great for off-road, but annoying in the city. Big drawback is that suspension is soft. It may be long, but with the stock springs it just slumps down when you sit on it (I weigh 85kg). KTM 390 Adventure felt a bit cramped, even for me. It has more of a naked bike feel, than a dirt bike. Perhaps some lowered pegs and bar risers will fix that. I do like the wide handlebars and the fact that it is a 26"/22" bar stock with ACTUAL handguards and not flappy elephant ears made from chocolate like on the Honda. The seat is wide and comfy and its quite high at 855mm. Suspension feels a lot firmer and brakes are awesome. Also the main thing I felt when riding the KTM is that I was having FUN. That power is just awesome, it is very zippy and way more powerful than the Honda. Also I love the engine, it felt very smooth, the smoothest single cylinder I ever rode. I know it has a counter balanced crank shaft so that might be the reason. Surprisingly, it doesn't have a lot of low down torque, it is a lot happier after 3-4000 revs. But man, I just wanted to blast off with a wheelie at absolutely every traffic light. I hit 80 km/h in third gear and it still had plenty of grunt to go. And now, to make matters even more undecisive, I currently own an old 2002 DRZ 400 E, which is amazing in the dirt, but quite medieval on the road. I had it for almost a year now, I honestly I don't really do crazy technical off-road riding. Some dirt roads over hills, with the occasional ruts (I avoid mud like the plague) and the worst stuff I ever rode were some fairly steep rocky climbs, but they were short sections. So, I'm kind of leaning on the KTM. I also own a first gen VStrom and my plan for next year is to get rid of both and buy a brand new unicorn bike. Hope this long comment helps others that are just as indecisive as I am. Cheers :) !
I went with the KTM 390 Adventure and can not be happier, Have around 4,000 KM on it so far mostly black top and gravel and dirt roads, as I still waiting for the better KTM skid plate, to many people breaking the stock one.
Based. As Solid said - it depends. See, I live in crazy country where it's illegal to enter wilderness/forested areas with motorized vehicles. In my case 300 Rally or any dualsport is close to useless. You are basically left with few artificial courses or risk of getting in trouble if you want to ride to full potential. However we have a fair amount of unpaved/dirt roads to explore. 390 Adventure is a fair trade in this circumstances. Truth is, there's probably better value in 300 Rally. But this bike is bare bones and boring as any Honda in this price range. While at least 390 got interesting tech and modern looks or the other way around, fits either way. In this day and age if someone can afford a hobby bike, shouldn't be scared to go by heart. You don't like it, sell/trade it and get the other one. If someone is struggling with fear of loosing money, he than should really set his priorities right or choose a cheaper hobby.
I’ve owned both. Your out of your mind if you think a 300 is even in the same class of bike. I had mine for a year it was the worst bike I’ve ever owned in 30+ years of riding. It’s a dirt bike with no power. It struggles to maintain 45 mph on a hill with a head wind. Literally pinned out on a big hill and it couldn’t maintain 40-45mph. Waste your money if you want people.
@@akuskus Whatever....I owned a 350excf for 3 years. Checked valves once,changed oil at about 10hrs. Was used as an off roader single track bike so it got abused. And literally Zero problems. I didn't do anymore maintenance than I do on my other off road bikes.
@@akuskus having owned a 500excf and Crf250l the more maintenance pitch doesn’t hold with me. The performance you gained for oil changes that took all of 10 minutes blindfolded was more than worth it. That being said I still love low compression engines with long service intervals.
Itchyboots , a female blogger on TH-cam, rode her 300CRF Rally from Patagonia to Alaska.. often on dirt and some rougher pavement... the best recommendation and the only one I really need to make my choice. 60,000kilometers with very little maintaince. Great price. "Enough said"
I went with the KTM 390 Adventure, form what I have seen as long as you want to go at a slower pace, it will take you almost any where the other bikes will, only have 4,000 Km on mine so far mostly on black top and gravel and dirt roads, but some of the dirt roads have 2' of grass growing up the center and are full of large pot holes. As soon as I get the up grade bash plate from KTM will be hitting some trails. To see what the KTM 390 Adventure can do , watch the video KTM 390 Adventure VS Royal Enfield Himalayan and KTM 390 Adventure vs KTM 790 Adventure R at the end of the video they say the KTM 390 will go any were the 790 will but at a much slower pace, And 90% of the people I know will not be racing there ADV bikes off road. That is what trail bikes and duel sports are for. That is why I also have a DR650 with a 20 liter gas tank in my stable, great for off road, at the speeds I go. ( Between 40 Km to 60 Km when off road or bad dirt roads.)
It’s kind of like finding a partner, you don’t look for the soulmate type of girls because they don’t exist. Look for a partner who has a good foundation and someone you gel with then you can build something great and damn near perfect together. Anywho love the video mate!
I now have the upgraded KTM skid plate on the 390 Adventure and have been taking it on some pretty rough roads more like trails than roads full of very large pot holes and deep ruts from 6" to 12 " deep, hitting some sand and mud and the KTM 390 Adventure is taking it all in stride. I do take it slow between 60 and 70 Km on the rough stuff, and hitting 80 Km on the better gravel and dirt. I am 5' 9" and 190 lb. and have the GVI Trekker 33/64 liter hard bags on it and the suspension is doing great, at the speeds I travel. I have been leaving the traction control and ABS on road setting , and so far no problems, As long as you do not want to race the KTM 390 Adventure will go almost any where, For me when the going gets rough 60 to 70 Km is plenty fast enough. and smooth gravel and dirt roads will handle 80 to 90 Km no problem I have just over 6,500 km on it now and am loving it. Also the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tire are doing great after 6,500 Km rear tire only down 1 mm, ( 1/32" ) and the new tread depth is 10 mm so looking to get a lot of life out of them. front tire not showing any ware at all. As long as you do not want to race off road the KTM is the way to go. Getting 3.3 liters per 100 km that is over 400 Km per tank of gas, witch is pretty good for a 14.5 liter gas tank, If I could change any thing on this bike would be going to a 18 liter gas tank. I also have had more people coming up to me and saying how they like the look of the bike, than any other bike I have had. I have the orange which I like much more than the white, You should get out and try the KTM 390 Adventure off road, you will be surprised what this bike can go through. just put the better skid plate on and keep the speed with in reason. Has not got the suspension for racing, it is not meant for racing, but great for slower off road.
@@adambeckers4423 Use the stock foot pegs no problem with them, but my boots are flexible, could see a problem if your boots were solid and no flex on the sole.
I picked up a 2006 DRZ400E with 32 original miles on it for $1k whilst waiting for my 300L. I might have it sold for $5k, we'll see here in Southern California.
Having owned both the ktm is a much better road bike .but the rally will get you where you need to go .the alloy wheels really put me off taking the ktm up harder trails.
There should be plenty of stock very quiet CRF450L exhausts for next to free for you to bolt onto your DRZ if you don't mind the extra 7 of the catalytic converter. Try that, swap the bars and the grips before taking the big step down to a 300L. Taller bars with less sweep and new grips can really change the feel of the bike.
Will im all 4 the DRZ400. I jave racked up over 40,000 if nesrly zero issues as of yet. Resprung both ends, gold valves in rear shock, hotcams, FCR39mm. Yoshimura RS2 exhaust. Love this bike. Soupys lowering links to adjust it as needed. Custom dash/fairing set up in recently finished up. Cant say enough about this bike. Owned and raced sport bikes, did the cruiser thing, but once I bought my 2011 S in 2012, it havent looked back. Nearly perfect bike for me. But looking forward TKC80 the KTM490 adventure. That well be the only bike to replace the drz, but will be added, not replacement.
The KTM 390 Adv 'maybe a little more comfortable and maybe a little faster than the CRF300 RALLY'? Man ... the KTM might not be the roughest and toughest bike around, but it is fast and comfortable. That's coming from a rider with a soft Harley-shaped bum. ;) S
There have been rumours of a small capacity Honda Africa. Do you think they will do 300 Africa. Its like they always nearly get it right but just miss out, the CRF300 Rally is great but just too much plastics that can break. Most of us need the larger tank and wind shield.
Just add 50/75 cc more to the engine and make suspensions slightly harder and the Honda CRF Rally would be perfect, the very unicorn bike most of us are looking for.
Buddy if you rode both you would say the exact opposite lol. I’ve got thousands of miles on both. The 300 is a trail bike with no power. Comparing the two is laughable.
Wuao!!, I did not expect an answer! Thanks You!. Because of this, ask quickly without exposing some other specification to make the comparison. I am from Venezuela! :) I'm living in Florida, and I want to buy one of those two motorcycle beauties. I really think that mine is the KTM 390 Adventure, although I must say that I went to a Honda store and the CRF 300 l Rally I steal my gaze!, Because it is very striking for its colors. And I agree that with modifications and love / passion for your motorcycle you can achieve new limits that do not come from manufacture with them. And if you pronounce my name well! :D
Not exaggerating when I say this is the EXACT comparison video I’ve been searching for. I bought my very first bike ever (ktm 390 adv) about 5 months ago and this thing is so much fun; perfect bike to learn how to ride on. I’ve been eyeing the CRF300l for awhile though as I do want something I bit more off road capable. Truly can’t decide between the lighter weight/less expensive CRF or the heavier adv bike, Tenere 700.. decisions decisions...
Tough choice there Bryan! On the bright side either bike will be great 👍 If you have off road experience and are confident the T7 is great, or your just doing dirt roads and twin track as a beginner. If you are just getting into off road you will appreciate a light bike to pick up and learn skills on 👍
This must all be family in here making these comments about this video being so great because this was the worst comparison video I've ever seen. For the love of God I hope he stops making comparison videos. This guy has a really hard time staying on topic.
Over herein Thailand we have the Yamaha WR155R which is a lovely bike, the 300L comes in with a seat height of 830 mm and ground clearance is 244 mm perfect for shorties which I’m not
The tall guy looking for more power with less weight might be better served off road by the Husky 501 than the 701. Not that the 701 is a bad bike, just a lot closer to the T7 he already has. The 501 can be easily uncorked to 45-50 hp, and weighs less than a WR (250 dry vs 295 wet). This comes with cost, and maintenance, but anyone looking to add a bike vs replace his existing ride probably has room in the budget for that. As standard mods he will need to put new springs and different oil &/or valving in his suspension. The standard setup for almost every bike is ideal for someone about 5'10"ish and 170 pounds. At 6'4" he will regularly bottom out every bike's stock suspension on very small potholes, whoops, etc. He probably should start with a professional rework of his T7 suspension for about $1,000 USD, and then decide if he really needs another bike at all. Just my 2 cents... Peace!
Ha ha ha I'm a shit speller that was suppose to read OFFICER DRZ your wanted for questioning . Lots of fair points about you and the DRZ if there's no love there's no love . thanks Solid ✌
Hey mate I have a crf300 rally here in Perth and was just wondering if you can recommend some really nice off-road beginner tracks that’s not just the usual around Perth
Hi Solid, I am deliberating between buying the CRF 300l to the Suzuki DR650. I am kind of a new rider since until now I had a scooter (Honda pcx125). I want to get into adventure and off-road riding. I live in the city and the bike will be my main transportation, every journey to nature will require a lot of freeway riding. My main concerns with the DR are that it is not that modern and will require a lot of work and cash to upgrade. Also, the lack of ABS or safety features is a concern. With the CRF my concern is about speed, that I will not be able to drive on 110/120 KPH freeways for 1 to 2 hours stretches. I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions. Love your channel! Tom
Tough choice m8.. I have a heaviky modded 1999 DR650SE to a desert \ all-rounder , and all I'm missing is 6th gear to make it better for both on and off road w/o the need to switch counter sprocket. The "Doctor"650 taught me who I am on 2 wheels abd what rider I am, and I still have it since as it is modded -- it's HARD to replace!!
Still,, for more off-road bias, I'd consider the more forgiving CRF300 ... What's your height & weight about? Just so you know -- DRZ400 is kinda somewhat still worth checking out as a 1st, I'd sum up: TEST RIDE'M ALL 🔥🔥❤️
@@TomGotIt good 2 know since maybe 300 is on your border of barely sufficient, so you'll *have to* test ride it just to *make sure*, but IMH(umble)O if you're fit to lift a down 150-160kg motorcycle once every while -- DR650SE is likely to do better on the satisfaction department overall.. I'll still stick to the "test ride'm all" doctrine, you won't regret insisting this.. Tip: I tried my DR with all *three* major types of *front\counter sprockets: 15(stock), 14(offroad bias) & 16(onroad bias)* and you lrobably guess what it made me feel and what conclusions I have for akk three.. Just say the word, I'll tell you all I know of this bike. Modded -- It's the *closest* do-it-all one bike I could afford and purchase as a 'lighter'/'cheaper'/'single' unicorn
You are so lucky to purchase these bikes in your country.Especially the DRZ and the DR 650 S.I am a big fan of those.Would buy one immediately if they were imported to where I live.Cool looking bikes also.Love the yellow colour like yours Solid.Have fun , stay safe ...
It's all good what we seen, but what would you say about the Honda X500 adventure is it capable of keep up with the 300cc Honda endurance on ruff surface, like what we have seen on this video?
FMF q4 is not quiet on drz. I had a FMF powercore on my wr250r and it's about the same as the Q4 on the drz (have a q4 on my Drz now). I can record a video if you'd like to hear it
Just put a Delķevic slip on pipe on my CB500X..sounds great, looks great, basey sound but not to loud even without the baffle...maybe try one on the drz 400
Solid, are you considering an ABS model CRF300L when you buy? Wouldn’t ABS brakes be better when street riding and then turn it off when trail riding? Thanks
@@chroniclesofsolid appreciate that! I was going to say I love my led headlight on my 450RL and I’ll hopefully swap it out when I get the 300L. I’ve seen one guy who had a source oversees and was as able to get one sent to him. Again, really informative content. Thanks 🙏🏽
Awesome! Thank you! So yeah -- funny name. I used to live in Japan, so I use katakana for a bit of privacy cloaking. Bit silly really. Feel free to call me Jens, with the J pronounced Polishly... ok -- CRF it will be then... Probably... I only started riding in September, and although I'm waaaay old enough to go straight to a full grown up licence, covid has created such an enormous backlog that booking a test has so far been very nearly impossible. There are an awful lot of spotty youths who want four wheel licences in front of me in the queue. So for now I'm on a squid bike -- a little CBR125R, which will do 80mph in a full tuck and can be a bit frustrating in country road traffic. The CRF's too speed is 82ish on paper, but with roughly twice the power of my CBR, it should be more nimble at overtaking. But how much more? Maybe you can guess at it with 30-50 or 40-60 acceleration data, but such stuff is unobtanium... Again, I'd value your thoughts.
It just so happens that my very first bike was a CBR125R and I feel your pain on fast roads! Without knowing your intended riding situations the CRF will be far superior in every way except maybe running costs. It will feel much quicker and more enjoyable over the 125. 80mph is not going to be much much better though all small displacement bikes are not great at that speed. It will be much better than the 125 but if that is your priority perhaps a small adventure bike like a CB500X or 390 adventure would be a better option? If you are looking to get off road seriously but still want a decent experience on the road than the 300L/Rally from Honda, WR250R, the KLX300 or DRZ400/DR650 are all great options👍
@@chroniclesofsolid yeah, if you recall I’m the guy weighing up crf vs svartpilen, so if I decide to take the speedier option, I’ll go for the svart and work out a way to reroute the exhaust for extra ground clearance. The 390adv... looks like a KTM. Some like that, but I happen not to. So if I have to give up ground clearance I’d rather give it up for the svart. As for the other bikes on your list, WRs, KLXs and non-sumo DRZs are as rare as rocking horse shit here in the UK, and if I have to step up to a middleweight adventure bike, it’ll be a Tenere 700 all day long... I’ll probably end up there before long, but I feel like I need a stepping stone to get there.
I do remember, just wanted to go through them out there incase you had not come across them. Clearly done your research 👍 If you really want to give the dirt a go the CRF makes sense. Svart will be a great commuter and look good at the cafe/pub and an interesting journey to mod. Hard choice. Good luck!
Hey mate. We love watching your vids. Keep up the great work. I have a 390, absolutely love it. Both on and off road. It is my first adv bike and my intro into offroad riding. It has been a gem. Obviously a few mods needed. We are lucky to live up in high country vic. So some awesome tracks on our doorstep. Its comfy on the highway and is more than capable offroad than I thought. Cheers, Stacey 🤙
Hey Solid, thanks for the video. New subscriber here : ). I am from Melbourne but currently living in Seoul, S.Korea. after i watch ur video, I booked for the CRF300L in Seoul (currently it's very popular in here). I think i made a wise decision : ))))). Keep up the good work mate !
Did we watch the same fucking video? because that video was shit! There was no comparison. he basically said this is better for this and this is better for that. with no specs, no self experience, just a bunch of bullshit bullshit bullshit. " I don't know what I'm doing and don't have expert with these bikes but I'm not going to let you know that, so just click bait"..... You must be a paid advertising and my opinions you must be related to this guy.
Seems you doing a lot more talking than riding and even after your way too long and extensive research inti what bike to get you don't like the bike you end up buying...hurts your credibility mate. To start off I haven't agreed with a lot of your opinions on bikes and you pretty much not agreeing with your own opinion on the drz...wth!? And liking a wr250 over the drz? WT absolute F?
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Regarding the CRF 300 Rally vs KTM 390 Adventure, I test rode both, albeit only on the road. I did find a small parking lot that was unpaved and full of potholes near a construction site, but don't tell the Honda dealer that ^_^". Honda Rally felt ergonomically great for my 175cm stature and about 78cm inseam. I felt relaxed sitting on it. The handlebars are a bit low when standing up, but some bar risers will fix that easily. The tank is quite wide and my legs were a bit split apart. Power-wise, its not bad. It won't shake your world, but it gets you from A to B in decent comfort. The seat is wider than the usual dirt bike type seat, so kudos there. First gear is SHORT, which I imagine is great for off-road, but annoying in the city. Big drawback is that suspension is soft. It may be long, but with the stock springs it just slumps down when you sit on it (I weigh 85kg). KTM 390 Adventure felt a bit cramped, even for me. It has more of a naked bike feel, than a dirt bike. Perhaps some lowered pegs and bar risers will fix that. I do like the wide handlebars and the fact that it is a 26"/22" bar stock with ACTUAL handguards and not flappy elephant ears made from chocolate like on the Honda. The seat is wide and comfy and its quite high at 855mm. Suspension feels a lot firmer and brakes are awesome. Also the main thing I felt when riding the KTM is that I was having FUN. That power is just awesome, it is very zippy and way more powerful than the Honda. Also I love the engine, it felt very smooth, the smoothest single cylinder I ever rode. I know it has a counter balanced crank shaft so that might be the reason. Surprisingly, it doesn't have a lot of low down torque, it is a lot happier after 3-4000 revs. But man, I just wanted to blast off with a wheelie at absolutely every traffic light. I hit 80 km/h in third gear and it still had plenty of grunt to go. And now, to make matters even more undecisive, I currently own an old 2002 DRZ 400 E, which is amazing in the dirt, but quite medieval on the road. I had it for almost a year now, I honestly I don't really do crazy technical off-road riding. Some dirt roads over hills, with the occasional ruts (I avoid mud like the plague) and the worst stuff I ever rode were some fairly steep rocky climbs, but they were short sections. So, I'm kind of leaning on the KTM. I also own a first gen VStrom and my plan for next year is to get rid of both and buy a brand new unicorn bike. Hope this long comment helps others that are just as indecisive as I am. Cheers :) !
I went with the KTM 390 Adventure and can not be happier, Have around 4,000 KM on it so far mostly black top and gravel and dirt roads, as I still waiting for the better KTM skid plate, to many people breaking the stock one.
What did you go for in the end ?
sorta 'no question' since no 390 *"R"* , so until then 300 Rally all day & night
Based. As Solid said - it depends. See, I live in crazy country where it's illegal to enter wilderness/forested areas with motorized vehicles. In my case 300 Rally or any dualsport is close to useless. You are basically left with few artificial courses or risk of getting in trouble if you want to ride to full potential. However we have a fair amount of unpaved/dirt roads to explore. 390 Adventure is a fair trade in this circumstances. Truth is, there's probably better value in 300 Rally. But this bike is bare bones and boring as any Honda in this price range. While at least 390 got interesting tech and modern looks or the other way around, fits either way. In this day and age if someone can afford a hobby bike, shouldn't be scared to go by heart. You don't like it, sell/trade it and get the other one. If someone is struggling with fear of loosing money, he than should really set his priorities right or choose a cheaper hobby.
I’ve owned both. Your out of your mind if you think a 300 is even in the same class of bike. I had mine for a year it was the worst bike I’ve ever owned in 30+ years of riding. It’s a dirt bike with no power. It struggles to maintain 45 mph on a hill with a head wind. Literally pinned out on a big hill and it couldn’t maintain 40-45mph. Waste your money if you want people.
Honda CRF300L does not have a removable subframe and the suspension is non-adjustable - KTM EXC-F 350 has way better Quality
Gotta become a mechanic when choosing the KTM. The service intervals are crazy.
@@akuskus
Whatever....I owned a 350excf for 3 years.
Checked valves once,changed oil at about 10hrs.
Was used as an off roader single track bike so it got abused.
And literally Zero problems.
I didn't do anymore maintenance than I do on my other off road bikes.
@@akuskus having owned a 500excf and Crf250l the more maintenance pitch doesn’t hold with me. The performance you gained for oil changes that took all of 10 minutes blindfolded was more than worth it. That being said I still love low compression engines with long service intervals.
Itchyboots , a female blogger on TH-cam, rode her 300CRF Rally from Patagonia to Alaska.. often on dirt and some rougher pavement... the best recommendation and the only one I really need to make my choice. 60,000kilometers with very little maintaince. Great price. "Enough said"
I went with the KTM 390 Adventure, form what I have seen as long as you want to go at a slower pace, it will take you almost any where the other bikes will, only have 4,000 Km on mine so far mostly on black top and gravel and dirt roads, but some of the dirt roads have 2' of grass growing up the center and are full of large pot holes. As soon as I get the up grade bash plate from KTM will be hitting some trails. To see what the KTM 390 Adventure can do , watch the video KTM 390 Adventure VS Royal Enfield Himalayan and KTM 390 Adventure vs KTM 790 Adventure R at the end of the video they say the KTM 390 will go any were the 790 will but at a much slower pace, And 90% of the people I know will not be racing there ADV bikes off road. That is what trail bikes and duel sports are for. That is why I also have a DR650 with a 20 liter gas tank in my stable, great for off road, at the speeds I go. ( Between 40 Km to 60 Km when off road or bad dirt roads.)
Just traded a 390 adventure in for the rally
It’s kind of like finding a partner, you don’t look for the soulmate type of girls because they don’t exist. Look for a partner who has a good foundation and someone you gel with then you can build something great and damn near perfect together.
Anywho love the video mate!
Thanks mate, great perspective👍
I now have the upgraded KTM skid plate on the 390 Adventure and have been taking it on some pretty rough roads more like trails than roads full of very large pot holes and deep ruts from 6" to 12 " deep, hitting some sand and mud and the KTM 390 Adventure is taking it all in stride. I do take it slow between 60 and 70 Km on the rough stuff, and hitting 80 Km on the better gravel and dirt. I am 5' 9" and 190 lb. and have the GVI Trekker 33/64 liter hard bags on it and the suspension is doing great, at the speeds I travel. I have been leaving the traction control and ABS on road setting , and so far no problems, As long as you do not want to race the KTM 390 Adventure will go almost any where, For me when the going gets rough 60 to 70 Km is plenty fast enough. and smooth gravel and dirt roads will handle 80 to 90 Km no problem I have just over 6,500 km on it now and am loving it. Also the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tire are doing great after 6,500 Km rear tire only down 1 mm, ( 1/32" ) and the new tread depth is 10 mm so looking to get a lot of life out of them. front tire not showing any ware at all. As long as you do not want to race off road the KTM is the way to go. Getting 3.3 liters per 100 km that is over 400 Km per tank of gas, witch is pretty good for a 14.5 liter gas tank, If I could change any thing on this bike would be going to a 18 liter gas tank. I also have had more people coming up to me and saying how they like the look of the bike, than any other bike I have had. I have the orange which I like much more than the white, You should get out and try the KTM 390 Adventure off road, you will be surprised what this bike can go through. just put the better skid plate on and keep the speed with in reason. Has not got the suspension for racing, it is not meant for racing, but great for slower off road.
Have you been using the stock foot pegs or did you replace them?
@@adambeckers4423 Use the stock foot pegs no problem with them, but my boots are flexible, could see a problem if your boots were solid and no flex on the sole.
I picked up a 2006 DRZ400E with 32 original miles on it for $1k whilst waiting for my 300L. I might have it sold for $5k, we'll see here in Southern California.
Having owned both the ktm is a much better road bike .but the rally will get you where you need to go .the alloy wheels really put me off taking the ktm up harder trails.
There should be plenty of stock very quiet CRF450L exhausts for next to free for you to bolt onto your DRZ if you don't mind the extra 7 of the catalytic converter. Try that, swap the bars and the grips before taking the big step down to a 300L. Taller bars with less sweep and new grips can really change the feel of the bike.
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Will im all 4 the DRZ400. I jave racked up over 40,000 if nesrly zero issues as of yet. Resprung both ends, gold valves in rear shock, hotcams, FCR39mm. Yoshimura RS2 exhaust. Love this bike. Soupys lowering links to adjust it as needed. Custom dash/fairing set up in recently finished up. Cant say enough about this bike. Owned and raced sport bikes, did the cruiser thing, but once I bought my 2011 S in 2012, it havent looked back. Nearly perfect bike for me. But looking forward TKC80 the KTM490 adventure. That well be the only bike to replace the drz, but will be added, not replacement.
The KTM 390 Adv 'maybe a little more comfortable and maybe a little faster than the CRF300 RALLY'? Man ... the KTM might not be the roughest and toughest bike around, but it is fast and comfortable. That's coming from a rider with a soft Harley-shaped bum.
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There have been rumours of a small capacity Honda Africa. Do you think they will do 300 Africa. Its like they always nearly get it right but just miss out, the CRF300 Rally is great but just too much plastics that can break. Most of us need the larger tank and wind shield.
Just add 50/75 cc more to the engine and make suspensions slightly harder and the Honda CRF Rally would be perfect, the very unicorn bike most of us are looking for.
Buddy if you rode both you would say the exact opposite lol. I’ve got thousands of miles on both. The 300 is a trail bike with no power. Comparing the two is laughable.
Wuao!!, I did not expect an answer! Thanks You!. Because of this, ask quickly without exposing some other specification to make the comparison. I am from Venezuela! :) I'm living in Florida, and I want to buy one of those two motorcycle beauties. I really think that mine is the KTM 390 Adventure, although I must say that I went to a Honda store and the CRF 300 l Rally I steal my gaze!, Because it is very striking for its colors.
And I agree that with modifications and love / passion for your motorcycle you can achieve new limits that do not come from manufacture with them.
And if you pronounce my name well! :D
Not exaggerating when I say this is the EXACT comparison video I’ve been searching for. I bought my very first bike ever (ktm 390 adv) about 5 months ago and this thing is so much fun; perfect bike to learn how to ride on. I’ve been eyeing the CRF300l for awhile though as I do want something I bit more off road capable. Truly can’t decide between the lighter weight/less expensive CRF or the heavier adv bike, Tenere 700.. decisions decisions...
Tough choice there Bryan! On the bright side either bike will be great 👍 If you have off road experience and are confident the T7 is great, or your just doing dirt roads and twin track as a beginner. If you are just getting into off road you will appreciate a light bike to pick up and learn skills on 👍
This must all be family in here making these comments about this video being so great because this was the worst comparison video I've ever seen.
For the love of God I hope he stops making comparison videos. This guy has a really hard time staying on topic.
60 ponds and $1,000.
Can you recommend me a bike for on and offroad. My last like was a yamaha dt125r.
Over herein Thailand we have the Yamaha WR155R which is a lovely bike, the 300L comes in with a seat height of 830 mm and ground clearance is 244 mm perfect for shorties which I’m not
The tall guy looking for more power with less weight might be better served off road by the Husky 501 than the 701. Not that the 701 is a bad bike, just a lot closer to the T7 he already has. The 501 can be easily uncorked to 45-50 hp, and weighs less than a WR (250 dry vs 295 wet). This comes with cost, and maintenance, but anyone looking to add a bike vs replace his existing ride probably has room in the budget for that.
As standard mods he will need to put new springs and different oil &/or valving in his suspension. The standard setup for almost every bike is ideal for someone about 5'10"ish and 170 pounds. At 6'4" he will regularly bottom out every bike's stock suspension on very small potholes, whoops, etc. He probably should start with a professional rework of his T7 suspension for about $1,000 USD, and then decide if he really needs another bike at all.
Just my 2 cents... Peace!
In Europe the AJP PR7 could be an option, if your country has a dealer. Mine does not :(
if you weigh more than 50 kg you need to upgrade the suspension in the Rally.
Ha ha ha I'm a shit speller that was suppose to read OFFICER DRZ your wanted for questioning . Lots of fair points about you and the DRZ if there's no love there's no love .
thanks Solid ✌
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Hey mate I have a crf300 rally here in Perth and was just wondering if you can recommend some really nice off-road beginner tracks that’s not just the usual around Perth
I think you need to consider a CRF300L
Copy me!
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Next video should make you happy 👍
Hi Solid, I am deliberating between buying the CRF 300l to the Suzuki DR650. I am kind of a new rider since until now I had a scooter (Honda pcx125). I want to get into adventure and off-road riding. I live in the city and the bike will be my main transportation, every journey to nature will require a lot of freeway riding. My main concerns with the DR are that it is not that modern and will require a lot of work and cash to upgrade. Also, the lack of ABS or safety features is a concern. With the CRF my concern is about speed, that I will not be able to drive on 110/120 KPH freeways for 1 to 2 hours stretches. I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions.
Love your channel!
Tom
Tough choice m8.. I have a heaviky modded 1999 DR650SE to a desert \ all-rounder , and all I'm missing is 6th gear to make it better for both on and off road w/o the need to switch counter sprocket. The "Doctor"650 taught me who I am on 2 wheels abd what rider I am, and I still have it since as it is modded -- it's HARD to replace!!
Still,, for more off-road bias, I'd consider the more forgiving CRF300 ... What's your height & weight about?
Just so you know -- DRZ400 is kinda somewhat still worth checking out as a 1st, I'd sum up: TEST RIDE'M ALL 🔥🔥❤️
@@generaldistrust I am 1.78 meters tall and weigh close to 100 Kg
@@TomGotIt good 2 know since maybe 300 is on your border of barely sufficient, so you'll *have to* test ride it just to *make sure*, but IMH(umble)O if you're fit to lift a down 150-160kg motorcycle once every while -- DR650SE is likely to do better on the satisfaction department overall.. I'll still stick to the "test ride'm all" doctrine, you won't regret insisting this..
Tip: I tried my DR with all *three* major types of *front\counter sprockets: 15(stock), 14(offroad bias) & 16(onroad bias)* and you lrobably guess what it made me feel and what conclusions I have for akk three..
Just say the word, I'll tell you all I know of this bike.
Modded -- It's the *closest* do-it-all one bike I could afford and purchase as a 'lighter'/'cheaper'/'single' unicorn
@@generaldistrust Thanks I appreciate your view.
What do you mean by border of barley sufficient? I am to heavy or to short?
You are so lucky to purchase these bikes in your country.Especially the DRZ and the DR 650 S.I am a big fan of those.Would buy one immediately if they were imported to where I live.Cool looking bikes also.Love the yellow colour like yours Solid.Have fun , stay safe ...
Yep. All very reasoned comments as usual Solid. You’ve got to bond with your bike. If you don’t bond it’ll never turn into something else.
Bought a 300L….gonna trade for the katoom
Your wife's Polish? Say "cześć" to her from new subscriber :) Pozdrowienia!
She is, I have been many times to stay with family. Will pass on your hello and greetings and welcome aboard 👍
It's all good what we seen, but what would you say about the Honda X500 adventure is it capable of keep up with the 300cc Honda endurance on ruff surface, like what we have seen on this video?
Sold my brand new 500x great on the Canyons on the pavement sucks off road unless very firm dirt too heavy
FMF q4 is not quiet on drz. I had a FMF powercore on my wr250r and it's about the same as the Q4 on the drz (have a q4 on my Drz now). I can record a video if you'd like to hear it
Thanks for the info, back to the drawing board...
My stain tune with baffle is in pretty damn quiet by DRZ standards but not a DR650 quiet
Just put a Delķevic slip on pipe on my CB500X..sounds great, looks great, basey sound but not to loud even without the baffle...maybe try one on the drz 400
Thanks for the tip Steven
Solid, are you considering an ABS model CRF300L when you buy? Wouldn’t ABS brakes be better when street riding and then turn it off when trail riding? Thanks
Always great stuff. Thanks, waiting no my 300L now.
Cheers Luke 👍
@@chroniclesofsolid appreciate that! I was going to say I love my led headlight on my 450RL and I’ll hopefully swap it out when I get the 300L. I’ve seen one guy who had a source oversees and was as able to get one sent to him. Again, really informative content. Thanks 🙏🏽
Also waiting on my 300l
Another great job, bro!
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Making a connection with a bike is half the fun. Great vid.
Awesome! Thank you! So yeah -- funny name. I used to live in Japan, so I use katakana for a bit of privacy cloaking. Bit silly really. Feel free to call me Jens, with the J pronounced Polishly...
ok -- CRF it will be then... Probably... I only started riding in September, and although I'm waaaay old enough to go straight to a full grown up licence, covid has created such an enormous backlog that booking a test has so far been very nearly impossible. There are an awful lot of spotty youths who want four wheel licences in front of me in the queue. So for now I'm on a squid bike -- a little CBR125R, which will do 80mph in a full tuck and can be a bit frustrating in country road traffic. The CRF's too speed is 82ish on paper, but with roughly twice the power of my CBR, it should be more nimble at overtaking. But how much more? Maybe you can guess at it with 30-50 or 40-60 acceleration data, but such stuff is unobtanium... Again, I'd value your thoughts.
It just so happens that my very first bike was a CBR125R and I feel your pain on fast roads! Without knowing your intended riding situations the CRF will be far superior in every way except maybe running costs. It will feel much quicker and more enjoyable over the 125. 80mph is not going to be much much better though all small displacement bikes are not great at that speed. It will be much better than the 125 but if that is your priority perhaps a small adventure bike like a CB500X or 390 adventure would be a better option? If you are looking to get off road seriously but still want a decent experience on the road than the 300L/Rally from Honda, WR250R, the KLX300 or DRZ400/DR650 are all great options👍
@@chroniclesofsolid yeah, if you recall I’m the guy weighing up crf vs svartpilen, so if I decide to take the speedier option, I’ll go for the svart and work out a way to reroute the exhaust for extra ground clearance. The 390adv... looks like a KTM. Some like that, but I happen not to. So if I have to give up ground clearance I’d rather give it up for the svart. As for the other bikes on your list, WRs, KLXs and non-sumo DRZs are as rare as rocking horse shit here in the UK, and if I have to step up to a middleweight adventure bike, it’ll be a Tenere 700 all day long... I’ll probably end up there before long, but I feel like I need a stepping stone to get there.
I do remember, just wanted to go through them out there incase you had not come across them. Clearly done your research 👍 If you really want to give the dirt a go the CRF makes sense. Svart will be a great commuter and look good at the cafe/pub and an interesting journey to mod. Hard choice. Good luck!
Yes, backpressure is a thing.
Wambulance says try sticking steel wool in your tailpipe 😜. Some good info mate. Roll on Solid! 😎
I sure hope you are talking about the bike 😂
@@chroniclesofsolid 🤣🤣🤣
Like the avatar update 👍 solid ,looks good
Thanks Metaldog 👍
I love how every segment came back to the CRF300 😁
It's just a waiting game now
Hard to avoid when I get so many questions on the dam thing!
@@chroniclesofsolid The 390 adventure I hear vibrates really badly on the highway, where as the 300 Rally is smooth with zero vibration...
How do you not mention the klx300 ?
I did mention it and as stated - It’s not sold in Europe where the viewer lives 👍
The KTM EXCF 500 is what really moved my heart. I wouldn't change that decision at all.
Hey mate. We love watching your vids. Keep up the great work. I have a 390, absolutely love it. Both on and off road. It is my first adv bike and my intro into offroad riding. It has been a gem. Obviously a few mods needed. We are lucky to live up in high country vic. So some awesome tracks on our doorstep. Its comfy on the highway and is more than capable offroad than I thought. Cheers, Stacey 🤙
Thanks Stacey, Loved the 390 in the twisties! 👍
Hi mate in nz the baffles are in the pipe we have to take them out if we wanted it to be louder its a bugger if you don't like it good luck
Greetings matte,
What mirrors brand do you have on your DRZ?
Thank you for assisting me🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸
Seem very biased.
Hey Solid, thanks for the video. New subscriber here : ). I am from Melbourne but currently living in Seoul, S.Korea. after i watch ur video, I booked for the CRF300L in Seoul (currently it's very popular in here). I think i made a wise decision : ))))). Keep up the good work mate !
Congrats on the new bike Nick and welcome aboard 👍
As to the guy wanting a lighter duelsport: just get a ktm500, not any of those pussy bikes you mentioned
And only $16,000 out the door. What a deal.
I like your channel and your in-depth reviews keep them coming
Did we watch the same fucking video? because that video was shit!
There was no comparison. he basically said this is better for this and this is better for that. with no specs, no self experience, just a bunch of bullshit bullshit bullshit.
" I don't know what I'm doing and don't have expert with these bikes but I'm not going to let you know that, so just click bait"..... You must be a paid advertising and my opinions you must be related to this guy.
@@Brrrap743 Jesus take a pill buddy oh my God overreacting or what…
Seems you doing a lot more talking than riding and even after your way too long and extensive research inti what bike to get you don't like the bike you end up buying...hurts your credibility mate. To start off I haven't agreed with a lot of your opinions on bikes and you pretty much not agreeing with your own opinion on the drz...wth!?
And liking a wr250 over the drz? WT absolute F?
Come on guys! Don’t trash Solid!
Great work again Solid, subscribed now 👍🍻
Thanks Mike, welcome aboard 👍