i think its pretty rediculous to shift gears like in a russian tank when you are driving a simulator and only press tiny buttons in reality, but each to their own :)
@@inevitablecraftslab It's not ridiculous, people are different. When I drive sims, I am tense, I grip the wheel like I am trying to bend steel. I slam shifts like Barry does. I can't help it. I can relax a bit if I am just cruising around a track in Sunday drive mode, but if I am racing or qualifying, I am incapable of easing up. Everyone is different. And anyway, it isn't pressing tiny buttons, it is sensing a magnetic field. If you watched the video, he describes this.
Agreed and people wonders why their stuff breaks while some last their entire life. Everyone has different styles ofc but when your's is tense and aggressive well just be mindful.
Just a note: the PCBs have not the spring as shock absorber, the PCBs and their sensors can be move in order to delay or fasten the activation, so closer would make the shifting sooner and further would do it later. Thanks Sim Racing Garage
i like the Newt very much! One suggestion, instead of screwing the top plates on, use small high power magnets so it would only take a few seconds to change from H to Seq. just a suggestion.
@@Wilburnator Actually I think that can be mitigated by using a dowel type rod to place and pin the plate laterally (plus it also sits in a recess of the frame of the shifter) so a magnet is really just for holding it DOWN in place. A few strong neodymiums should be able to do that nicely. I'd love to see them take a whack. One if not two of these (shift and ebrake) is def on my short list and quick-switch the plates is the only thing missing imo. (Like, they did so well with quick-switch for the actual shift rod and then the plates need tools?..)
@@Wouldpkr - Even high power magnets would give up dealing with the immense leverage effects the rod exerts on the plates, I fear. Ah, just noticed John already mentioned this. :D
@Chris Valin Last video? I mean this is one of the first videos I watched of SRG so I'm not generally up on what was or wasn't said. Either way calm down... 10 deep breaths. Woooosaaaaaah
Hi I have it for 2 years, it is still new giving it a lot of use. It has a powerful touch and feels great in the strength it makes. Very comfortable to adapt to any chassis. In their two functions in H and sequential, they act very well, adjustable in hardness. It is not advisable to change the knob for a heavy one, since it diminishes the sensation of strength, always very light knobs, such as those that it brings as standard, or of aluminum; but thin and light. A job very well done for a low price, I recommend it 100%.
I am between the th8a and the shh. How it compares with the th8a (but with mod - like the 3drap mod cambio for improved feel - included)? Do the 2 shifters have the same resistance in h pattern mode?
Quality content as always! Minor critique, you kept saying DERlin, but I believe the material is actually DELrin. Keep up the great work, your videos manage to be in-depth, informative and interesting.
Thanks for this SRG, ordered because of you, other shifters just out of my price range, this looks like it will be perfect for my setup! Oh and thanks to SHH, creative and innovative!!
Great shifter. Mine arrived in the mail today and it's excellent. In some ways, it reminds me of my old MX-5 shifter. Great feel, short throw. Well done!
Barry drops the hammer on his shifts like he's driving the nails in count draculas coffin! He aint gettin outa that sucker for atleast a couple thou years!! Tom Cruise would be jealous!
I have one of the older models and it has been great. I got sick of waiting for the Heusinkveld h-pattern shifter and got this instead. I replaced the knob with an after market knob just so I had a bit more weight. I am very happy with my purchase so far.
Thank you so much for this test. I was looking for this product on the web and was very happy to see your channel coming first in the search results. I think I'm going to buy it.
Barry, you are a ledge. I bought one of these on your recommendation, and I can't wait for it to arrive here in the UK sir. Thank you Sim Racing Garage!
Holy cow, these guys are Spanish! And from Irún!! My girlfriend (my wife in about a month!) spent most of her teenage years there, so quite a special place for us :) Proud that such a small and young company is making such a cool product - I’d buy one in a heartbeat, but I only have a PS4. Keep up the good work, guys, and best of luck!! 💪🏻
Thanks for the in-depth review, Barry! I had some initial worries about my unit "springing" back to neutral too aggressively, but it's apparently just the profile that the bearings roll in they used. Since the clunk also happened while you were shifting into neutral to show off the mechanism (22:11), my worries are gone.
Hello, I woul like to ask you if all the plate variations (6R, 7R and seq) are part of the basic package or if you get only one plate and the rest you must buy. Berry says it comes with extras plate but on webside it says only one. Times changes and since you are the last one ordeing it please share the info ;)
great shifter for a very good price. It's really silence, I have the previous version though but I'm loving it. I would consider buying another one for separate sequential shifter use
if you want more resistance/tension, remove the screws that adjust the tension and replace them with longer ones, i did this about 2 yrs ago, works really well. I can get double the tension than out of the box. SHH told me this could brake it but i think they were being safe, mine has not broke :)
Yes, you can do that to get more tension. I know yours has not broken, but the threaded holes in that ABS piece were not designed to go beyond pressures achieved with the stock screw length. But hey, I'm all about pushing hardware to it's limits! And that ABS piece looks to be easy to replace if one of the screws ever stripped out the threads. Or, just tap some more threads in it if there is enough ABS material left.
@@simracinggarage3026 you could also use brass inserts etc tapped in to the abs piece i guess or something similar. Just 1cm longer actually makes a good difference to tension and is where i like it. Because i put a heavy shifter knob on it , which also made it taller, i had to extend the screw length to get the tension back again and id say its about double tension from what it was if i remove the knob i put on it and use the light printed one. Cheers for the reply Barry. 2.5mm i think the screws where if anyones interested, mines an orig model.
This shifter looks awesome and is next on my list of gear. Barry mentions other shifters at this price point, but as far as I know, there aren't any. The only one cheaper is the Logitech shifter, but it's proprietary to Logitech wheels. Also, I think you get one choice of mount included, then it's extra if you want more.
Damn youshould shoot an episode on 'how to afford all toys that i have'. I remember a 240z on your background, now it's a hot bike... and the hardware you test is crazy, i remember Quaife shifter. Man.. I feel I'm a looser.
Sim Racing Garage has a new shifter review. Me: yeah! Let’s skip until he slam the shit out of it. Me again: you may run on my rig, but only on automatic.
I have had this shifter for almost 1 year. It is far better than a Thrustmaster TH8A. The only defect is the small knob, not very ergonomic. GG Shh Shifter!
How much more force is needed to shift than the stock TH8A? I have modded my 3 TH8A shifters and am debating if I should get the SHH shifter and move 1 of mine over to my son's wheel setup. With mine being modded it made a world of difference so I've been debating this for a few months now.
@@EricGibson1 I've had a modified TH8A before, but this is much better. You can adjust the spring to your liking. Too bad about the plastic body, but it's not a big deal.
awesome review, i am looking to get one sometime soon, right now i am still using my trusty old Porsche GT3 Fanatec shifter. its lasted years of shifting, but this one looks more professional. Love your rig, i am sure you can get better lap times with a pro rig like that.
Thanks Barry, wonderful review as always! The product looks valid and there is a lot of thought behind it when it comes to design a materials used but... the price is still stopping me from ordering one.
I have one of these and it is absolutely worth the price. Better then TH8, i had Logitech (i had G25), I have not tried the Fanatec yet. I think if you are in doubt beetween Logitech, Thrustmaster and this one, the choice is easy. Maybe this is a Tier 2 shifter, but the best of Tier 2 shifters.
@@MrHamster1982 Barry said it all. In the H mode, they are not so much different (even if personally I feel a lot better SHH Shifter). Even if not so realistic, it gives you a nice feeling. In sequential mode I really like it a lot and feel a lot realistic to me, even if I have seen some reviews that say it is not. But I am not a real driver! Anyway I repeat : according to me in the 100ish tier, this is the best one. And another important thing: it is a solid product. If I will not be unlucky, i think this will last a loooong time. I own this since one year, playing almost every day and it is still perfect like the first day.
Great review Barry thank you. They could have made the H/Seq switch internal and automatic when you push/turn to switch modes. Maybe a similar magnetic sensor type deal like in the shifters themselves. An internal gate could also spin around to lock a Seq mode without having to install an external gate. They could sell it for 150 easy this way. But anyway, seems like a very nice shifter. Cheers.
46:12 "You can see it's actually moving some..." It honestly looks like what's happening is that the mounting piece is bending, rather than the ABS chassis of the shifter having much give at all. EDIT: And by "mounting piece", I mean the L-shaped metal plate, not the chunky aluminum profile.
@@shhsimulation Cheers for the reply, so the unit itself is even sturdier than previously thought. You definitely have a great product there at a fantastic price point, I'll be ordering one in the coming months. Quick question that I haven't found an answer to elsewhere: Are the "buttons" that the SQ mode activates the same buttons as used for the H-gate mode? For years I've been wanting a shifter that converts between the two modes and uses different buttons for both, so that I don't have to remap the controls in-game when changing over. =)
@@jubuttib The shifter has a lateral switch that changes sensor function between 3rd/10th and 4th/9th, so you can map 3rd as 3rd gear and 10th as "downshift", 4th as 4th and 9th as "upshift". You don't have to remap anything ;)
After spending WAY too much on the r5 bundle and for shipping, I needed a budget shifter that can mount to a desk that isn't crappy. This is far cheaper with shipping than the th8a shifter and seems much better.
That voluptuous hair of Barry is getting so long I’m getting worried it may get tangled in the H pattern! For all of us concerned fans of your hair, Barry, PLEASE, be careful using this 3D contraption.
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Wow I never heard of this shifter before and just went on the website to see. I may just get one ordered. It looks like they are experiencing increased popularity because they state they are having problems keeping up with demand.
don't know if they producers of the shifter are ok with full dissambly of their products and revealing their technical secrets but indeed this shifter has some great amount of thinking behind the scenes
What would stop a competitor from buying one on their own and disassembling it? The video is thorough for subscribers to make better informed decisions on what piece of kit they would like to add or not want to add to their rig.
I have the version of this that came right before this one and it has been awesome. Since I only use it for stock cars on Iracing I would like to have a plate for 4 speed with reverse up and left. I have access to a laser to cut an aluminum plate, would this be a problem or should I find some derlin to cut on waterjet?
I have the shh shifter and i'm happy with it. Very beautiful shifter (i recommend the carbon fiber style plate/also the 6 gears instead of the 7 gears one)
@@diamondjing2746 Just push and twist to get sequential. Flick a swith to change the button numbers for sequential so you don't have to overwrite your H mapping.
is it just me or does the sim racing garage intro use the lotus 79 engine sound byte? correct me if im wrong thank you. P.S. I love you barry and thanks for the best product breakdowns in sim racing and one of the best man cave/wrencher garages ever!!
@@Haris1977 I bought it so I don't have 3 shifters. It doesn't feel that bad honestly. The SHH shifter is a little easier but not by much. It is a little to easy to bump out of gear too if you're not careful depending on where you have it placed and how you have your hand when driving. So far so good as it really like it. Again down a shifter so less cables nad makes it a little cleaner. I have the SHH shifter for sequential and H pattern and 1 TH8A for truck simulation driving with a mod. I had 1 TH8A sequential mode and 1 in H pattern mode and 1 for truck simulation.
thanks barry, i was really looking forward for this review. I am now deciding between this or the fanatec one, but i still think the fanatec is way overpriced for its quality..I would like to hear your thoughts on that.
The Fanatec shifter gives you a better tactile "click" feeling when you get into gear (like Barry mentions the shifting on SHH is smooth). It also has mechanism to avoid getting into 7th or reverse accidentally (which I do a lot on my SHH). IMO overall Fanatec shifter is a better product in terms of functionality. However you would be paying for more than twice the price of an SHH. So it all comes down to your preference and your budget. I also have had great experience with SHH customer service (while Fanatec custom service is often pretty bad). They were very responsive and helpful. For me personally I like the SHH a lot, but if I would drive manual cars a lot more often than I am currently doing, I would have chosen a Fanatec shifter over SHH.
The NEWT has an updated h pattern gate so it has solved a lot of the accidentally getting into 7th or reverse problem. Also to be fair the one thing the Fanatec shifter has vs SHH is that neutral is an analog controller so you can actually use it as an analog handbrake whereas the SHH doesn't. I own a recently purchased NEWT and haven't missed a shift since.
Great review! I have an older model of SHH shifter which does not have the screw-on adapter. Do you have any insight where to get one of those shown at 6:00 ? I tried a few aftermarket shifter knobs, but the rubber tube did not hold rotation well when I switch from H pattern to seq from time to time.
Luis Alves, I believe it will be. Everything I have read and watched has praised these shifters other than the finish but if it does the job and lasts that’s what I’m all about!
So I've always had this question.. you can't downshift from 6th to 2nd directly in these "H pattern" shifters? In real manual cars (obviously just non racing, regular driving) let's say I need to reduce speed, so I'm in about 5th gear, I just hold the clutch, press the brakes a little, and stay on N until I need the throttle again, then I'm engage 2nd or 3rd gear and release the clutch. Is that not possible in sim/games? Or just something not optimal in terms of speed?
Why do you think that's not possible in the first place? That's one of the main features of an H-shifter, otherwise it would just be a more complicated sequential which would make no sense at all. Now as a friendly hint: the way you describe your real car driving you a) waste fuel and b) wear the clutch unnecessarily. To avoid both you should let off the throttle and let the car roll *in gear* and then later shift down to the desired lower gear and put it *in gear* again directly. That way you'll save fuel since when rolling in gear the ECU in road cars will switch off fuel injection so you're rolling without using any fuel. In contrast to that the ECU will inject fuel when you're rolling while holding the clutch and also if you'd roll in neutral. The reason for that is that otherwise the engine would stall so fuel is injected to keep it rotating. Regarding holding the clutch while rolling or standing at a red light that will cause a lot of wear on the clutch. So at a red light it's best to engage neutral. Regarding skipping gears on downshifting in real racecars that comes down to car, driving style, grip conditions etc.. So you might see drivers engage each gear when shifting down with blipping the throttle at the right moments while others will engage only one other gear between 6th and 2nd for example while another driver could go directly from 6th to 2nd with only one (in that case heavier of course) blip of the throttle. Anybody reading this please correct me if something I mentioned is wrong :-)
@@armorgeddon oh wow thanks for the detailed reply. I've always heard about the fuel consumption when on N so generally I take that into account, what I described above is not what I do 100% of the time, it's more to illustrate what I wanted to do in game. But still, I do that sometimes and I should indeed avoid it, what you've said about the injection while on N makes sense. Thanks for that! On the other subject I might wanna invest on that shifter, I enjoy it so much more in real life, if it's indeed anything comparable to the real thing I think it'll be worth getting one.
@@johnf.kennedy3175 I play mostly Gran Turismo and Asseto Corsa. I think you've answered already. From this video I had the impression you couldn't downshift more then 1 gear at a time.
Quite the amazing job as always ! - Im wondering if a shifter could double as a nose wheel tiller in Flight Sim ? I cant find anything satisfying to use as a nose wheel tiller, an axis that moves forward and backwards, or turns like a dial.
Nice Barry is as always detailed but I only would have like to know the cost of that shifter, being that item is not well known or popular and is it available in the US
Hi Barry, if you get time you should do a review on the new all metal shifter that’s been going around aliexpress. Well, not sure how new it is but seems to be recent.
Sinc Media that was exactly what I was thinking, maybe 0.5 or 1.0 mm longer would do the trick. But the stress on the internals might become to much, I guess it would void warranty for sure.
Sinc Media solid choice, I just went for the SHH because my whole rig is a wooden diy deal and I have no other fanatec gear so I would also need the pretty pricy USB adapter. I’m sure the Fanatec is the better solution but I only drive stick or sequential about 1/3 of the time so this will have to do.
@@fastfolky yeah. My next rig is going to be a ddw with a sim labs cockpit so it would probs be ideal, i also mostly drive h pattern or siquential. I would still have to get the adaptor though which is annoying
@@fastfolky Be carefull, the Fanatec has some serious issues with misshifting! Instead of 5th gear mine shifts into Reverse sometimes. Their support is not really good and I havent seen any case on the internet yet where they solved this issue to full satifaction of their customer. Also the sequential shiftermode is so bad to a point that I just stopped using it. The throw is too long and it has unrealistic stong amount of resistance. I think the whole shifter is way overpriced, and I regret buying it.
Looks nice but i m concerned about the difficulty - or not - about going into the 5th or 6th gear..Would love to see a six speed plate (without the reverse gear). The reverse could be engaged by pushing the knob down and putting the stick into 1st gear...
Is the mounting for this the same as say Fanatec’s mounting holes? In other words if your rig is drilled for Fanatec, logitech and thrustmaster will their mounting bracket bolt right on with no drilling?
The holes for the mounting option are always in the front. If you mount the shifter like you say the shifter will work anyway but everything would be reversed too.
Hey man, Let me ask you a question, If I may? Which shifter would you buy if you had to pick one? The Thrustmaster TH8A, or this one? This will help me with my upgrade from my G920. Thanks!
What a coincidence, I was just looking at this. Thanks for the very thorough review. What would you say between this and the Fanatec CSS1.5? I know they're essentially in different budget brackets, but just wondering if this holds a candle to the CSS?
I had the SHH 7R last year and wasn't a fan; shifting felt unnatural to me, as I didn't like the spacing between gates and the shifter stiffness was way too tough/fake feeling. Sold it and went to the CSS, which is lightyears better. I highly recommend the CSS.
@@kingcars by chance what do you mean shifter stiffness? How much force to shift gears is what I'm guessing. I have modded my TH8A shifters to be harder to shift for a more tactical and lifelike to a real car.
@@EricGibson1 Yes, that is partially what I was referring to. Before I go further, I'll just say that obviously this is anecdotal but it is my current experience. I've owned and driven manual transmission cars for the last 13 years, and I currently own 5 - a 2017 Shelby GT350, three 1988 Ford Thunderbirds and a 2015 Volkswagen GTI. I've driven various other manual transmission cars as well, such as older muscle cars. Not a single manual transmission car I have ever driven has felt anything remotely like the SSH shifter in terms of stiffness or gate spacing; granted, I haven't driven a gated manual in real life, though, so those cars might have more similarities. The Fanatec Clubsport shifter provides an infinitely closer resemblance in general to the cars I have driven and experienced. The muscle memory is nearly identical and the overall feel is very close, at least in terms of a $250 simulated shifter. I also generally have issues with the sentiment I see among a lot of sim racing enthusiasts that a stiffer shifter is more realistic. Might be true to some extent, but generally it's not. Real life manual shifters don't require a ton of effort.
@@kingcars yeah It shouldn't be hard to switch gear but should be harder to shift than the stock TH8A shifter as it almost just falls out of gear if u keep hand on it (stock). I have mine set up so it feels like I'm shifting something and not moving something if that makes sense.
So as an American who would have to pay 28 euros on shipping if I wanted this, would it be worth it just to get he TH8A for $150usd and free amazon prime shipping instead?
@@shhsimulation Weird, when I went to check out it said 28 euros, at least to California. And tbh, I completely understand, I really want to support you guys, it amazing work but I have a tight budget so I need to think I about these things
Why not? It is a normal gaming peripheral. You can map it as you want. But there are cheaper alternatives, using it just as a hand brake would be a waste.
Barry, is it my phone or your camera? Your head is cut off in a lot of the video. And I have never seen/noticed that before. Like final thoughts I see your chin and lower only.
Barry's shifts are like he's nailing a roof on a house. Lol
i think its pretty rediculous to shift gears like in a russian tank when you are driving a simulator and only press tiny buttons in reality, but each to their own :)
@@inevitablecraftslab are you RUSSIAN tank commander?
Timboslicce yes but only part-time, they can't afford my salary
@@inevitablecraftslab It's not ridiculous, people are different. When I drive sims, I am tense, I grip the wheel like I am trying to bend steel. I slam shifts like Barry does. I can't help it. I can relax a bit if I am just cruising around a track in Sunday drive mode, but if I am racing or qualifying, I am incapable of easing up. Everyone is different. And anyway, it isn't pressing tiny buttons, it is sensing a magnetic field. If you watched the video, he describes this.
Agreed and people wonders why their stuff breaks while some last their entire life. Everyone has different styles ofc but when your's is tense and aggressive well just be mindful.
Just a note: the PCBs have not the spring as shock absorber, the PCBs and their sensors can be move in order to delay or fasten the activation, so closer would make the shifting sooner and further would do it later. Thanks Sim Racing Garage
i like the Newt very much! One suggestion, instead of screwing the top plates on, use small high power magnets so it would only take a few seconds to change from H to Seq. just a suggestion.
@@Wouldpkr that plate is the shift gate, If it's held down only by magnets, it won't stay in place in the heat of battle, it needs to be screwed down.
@@Wilburnator i can see that for the pattern, but for the sequential, i think it would be fine.
@@Wilburnator Actually I think that can be mitigated by using a dowel type rod to place and pin the plate laterally (plus it also sits in a recess of the frame of the shifter) so a magnet is really just for holding it DOWN in place. A few strong neodymiums should be able to do that nicely.
I'd love to see them take a whack. One if not two of these (shift and ebrake) is def on my short list and quick-switch the plates is the only thing missing imo.
(Like, they did so well with quick-switch for the actual shift rod and then the plates need tools?..)
@@Wouldpkr - Even high power magnets would give up dealing with the immense leverage effects the rod exerts on the plates, I fear.
Ah, just noticed John already mentioned this. :D
Like the Bob Ross of Sim Racing.. Very soothing voice "We're gonna add a shifter... And lets make it a happy shifter"
Love the vids man
@Chris Valin Last video? I mean this is one of the first videos I watched of SRG so I'm not generally up on what was or wasn't said. Either way calm down... 10 deep breaths. Woooosaaaaaah
@Chris Valin You're not earning any points with Barry, behaving like this.
I have one and I can't make a single complaint about it for the price. Super good if you're on a budget too.
Just to be sure, you don't need to change the plate if you want to use the sequential mode actually? Not like the TH8A ?
@@nicknameunfoundable8369 No, you don‘t, afaik it works with the h-plate aswell
"I'm being quite aggressive, I'm hammering on it pretty good" - you're not wrong!
Hi
I have it for 2 years, it is still new giving it a lot of use. It has a powerful touch and feels great in the strength it makes. Very comfortable to adapt to any chassis. In their two functions in H and sequential, they act very well, adjustable in hardness.
It is not advisable to change the knob for a heavy one, since it diminishes the sensation of strength, always very light knobs, such as those that it brings as standard, or of aluminum; but thin and light.
A job very well done for a low price, I recommend it 100%.
juanmacion can it work on a Logitech g29
@@mark__s2k263 Yes, it is a USB shifter so it's basically plug and play.
And compared to the th8a?
I am between the th8a and the shh. How it compares with the th8a (but with mod - like the 3drap mod cambio for improved feel - included)? Do the 2 shifters have the same resistance in h pattern mode?
Is the resistance strong enough, is the gear shifting process too smooth
Quality content as always! Minor critique, you kept saying DERlin, but I believe the material is actually DELrin. Keep up the great work, your videos manage to be in-depth, informative and interesting.
Thanks for this SRG, ordered because of you, other shifters just out of my price range, this looks like it will be perfect for my setup! Oh and thanks to SHH, creative and innovative!!
Wow, this is in-depth. You definitely know what you are talking about.
One of the best if not the best sim racing channel on youtube,so underrated,your videos are exellent.
This is the review that I have been waiting for! Thanks Barry!
Great shifter. Mine arrived in the mail today and it's excellent. In some ways, it reminds me of my old MX-5 shifter. Great feel, short throw. Well done!
does it work with thrustmaster?
@@DaddyTigo69 Yes. It should. It is a standalone USB device so it should work with any combination of gear.
definitely gonna buy this now ive been trying to find something thats similar. Thanks!
THanks for this Barry, I've been in need of an H pattern shifter for a long time, and been eyeballing this for about a year, but needed a good review
Barry drops the hammer on his shifts like he's driving the nails in count draculas coffin! He aint gettin outa that sucker for atleast a couple thou years!! Tom Cruise would be jealous!
Nice review as always Barry!!
I've had this shifter for 1,5 years and really like it!
I have one of the older models and it has been great. I got sick of waiting for the Heusinkveld h-pattern shifter and got this instead. I replaced the knob with an after market knob just so I had a bit more weight. I am very happy with my purchase so far.
I like how he says "PCB board" in every video. PCB is short for printed circuit board so he basically says printed circuit board board.
Saying PCB board just kinda sounds better lol
smh my head that really is something
Like every project manager in a software project says "RDBMS system" :D
I'm a stickler for stuff like this cause my brain wants to explode.
RIP in peace, Atm machine, Pin number, Etc
Basically my only complaint about his reviews 😄
Thank you so much for this test. I was looking for this product on the web and was very happy to see your channel coming first in the search results. I think I'm going to buy it.
Barry, you are a ledge. I bought one of these on your recommendation, and I can't wait for it to arrive here in the UK sir. Thank you Sim Racing Garage!
Holy cow, these guys are Spanish! And from Irún!! My girlfriend (my wife in about a month!) spent most of her teenage years there, so quite a special place for us :) Proud that such a small and young company is making such a cool product - I’d buy one in a heartbeat, but I only have a PS4. Keep up the good work, guys, and best of luck!! 💪🏻
Thanks for the in-depth review, Barry! I had some initial worries about my unit "springing" back to neutral too aggressively, but it's apparently just the profile that the bearings roll in they used. Since the clunk also happened while you were shifting into neutral to show off the mechanism (22:11), my worries are gone.
Thanks for the thorough review. Just ordered one before seeing this and I feel even better about it now
Hello, I woul like to ask you if all the plate variations (6R, 7R and seq) are part of the basic package or if you get only one plate and the rest you must buy. Berry says it comes with extras plate but on webside it says only one. Times changes and since you are the last one ordeing it please share the info ;)
@@exhaustor5983 I had to pick one plate. The extras are maybe 10 bucks? I'll be getting it in a few days maybe so I'll know for sure
@@SanelessOne Thank for info a thougt that...its shame that they dont include them all...
great shifter for a very good price. It's really silence, I have the previous version though but I'm loving it. I would consider buying another one for separate sequential shifter use
Literally sold this to me, thanks for the review :)
As always, thanks for the thorough review.
Thanks Barry! I think im gonna order one right away! Great review! Now I can try heel toe shifting haha
What an awesome little shifter. Great price too!
if you want more resistance/tension, remove the screws that adjust the tension and replace them with longer ones, i did this about 2 yrs ago, works really well. I can get double the tension than out of the box. SHH told me this could brake it but i think they were being safe, mine has not broke :)
Yes, you can do that to get more tension. I know yours has not broken, but the threaded holes in that ABS piece were not designed to go beyond pressures achieved with the stock screw length. But hey, I'm all about pushing hardware to it's limits! And that ABS piece looks to be easy to replace if one of the screws ever stripped out the threads. Or, just tap some more threads in it if there is enough ABS material left.
@@simracinggarage3026 you could also use brass inserts etc tapped in to the abs piece i guess or something similar. Just 1cm longer actually makes a good difference to tension and is where i like it. Because i put a heavy shifter knob on it , which also made it taller, i had to extend the screw length to get the tension back again and id say its about double tension from what it was if i remove the knob i put on it and use the light printed one. Cheers for the reply Barry. 2.5mm i think the screws where if anyones interested, mines an orig model.
This shifter looks awesome and is next on my list of gear. Barry mentions other shifters at this price point, but as far as I know, there aren't any. The only one cheaper is the Logitech shifter, but it's proprietary to Logitech wheels. Also, I think you get one choice of mount included, then it's extra if you want more.
Damn youshould shoot an episode on 'how to afford all toys that i have'. I remember a 240z on your background, now it's a hot bike... and the hardware you test is crazy, i remember Quaife shifter. Man.. I feel I'm a looser.
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Me: yeah! Let’s skip until he slam the shit out of it.
Me again: you may run on my rig, but only on automatic.
Shits like a strongman, rev matches like a ballerina, godamn!
Iv had one for about a year had no problems with it ,I put a aftermarket shifter knob on to help with the feel,just feel more tactile
I have had this shifter for almost 1 year.
It is far better than a Thrustmaster TH8A.
The only defect is the small knob, not very ergonomic.
GG Shh Shifter!
How much more force is needed to shift than the stock TH8A? I have modded my 3 TH8A shifters and am debating if I should get the SHH shifter and move 1 of mine over to my son's wheel setup. With mine being modded it made a world of difference so I've been debating this for a few months now.
@@EricGibson1 I've had a modified TH8A before, but this is much better.
You can adjust the spring to your liking.
Too bad about the plastic body, but it's not a big deal.
Thanks That was the exact question i had
awesome review, i am looking to get one sometime soon, right now i am still using my trusty old Porsche GT3 Fanatec shifter. its lasted years of shifting, but this one looks more professional.
Love your rig, i am sure you can get better lap times with a pro rig like that.
Thanks Barry, wonderful review as always! The product looks valid and there is a lot of thought behind it when it comes to design a materials used but... the price is still stopping me from ordering one.
I have one of these and it is absolutely worth the price. Better then TH8, i had Logitech (i had G25), I have not tried the Fanatec yet. I think if you are in doubt beetween Logitech, Thrustmaster and this one, the choice is easy. Maybe this is a Tier 2 shifter, but the best of Tier 2 shifters.
Andrea Iachini how is the shifting feel compared to the th8A? The TH8A feels kind of sluggish, it does not have that positive tactile feel.
@@MrHamster1982 Barry said it all. In the H mode, they are not so much different (even if personally I feel a lot better SHH Shifter). Even if not so realistic, it gives you a nice feeling. In sequential mode I really like it a lot and feel a lot realistic to me, even if I have seen some reviews that say it is not. But I am not a real driver!
Anyway I repeat : according to me in the 100ish tier, this is the best one. And another important thing: it is a solid product. If I will not be unlucky, i think this will last a loooong time. I own this since one year, playing almost every day and it is still perfect like the first day.
Great review Barry thank you. They could have made the H/Seq switch internal and automatic when you push/turn to switch modes. Maybe a similar magnetic sensor type deal like in the shifters themselves. An internal gate could also spin around to lock a Seq mode without having to install an external gate. They could sell it for 150 easy this way. But anyway, seems like a very nice shifter. Cheers.
Thanks, another great review and it looks like a great shifter too.
46:12 "You can see it's actually moving some..." It honestly looks like what's happening is that the mounting piece is bending, rather than the ABS chassis of the shifter having much give at all.
EDIT: And by "mounting piece", I mean the L-shaped metal plate, not the chunky aluminum profile.
Yes, the L shaped plate has its flexibility. You have not to worry about it at all.
@@shhsimulation Cheers for the reply, so the unit itself is even sturdier than previously thought. You definitely have a great product there at a fantastic price point, I'll be ordering one in the coming months.
Quick question that I haven't found an answer to elsewhere: Are the "buttons" that the SQ mode activates the same buttons as used for the H-gate mode? For years I've been wanting a shifter that converts between the two modes and uses different buttons for both, so that I don't have to remap the controls in-game when changing over. =)
@@jubuttib The shifter has a lateral switch that changes sensor function between 3rd/10th and 4th/9th, so you can map 3rd as 3rd gear and 10th as "downshift", 4th as 4th and 9th as "upshift". You don't have to remap anything ;)
Cool, think I will pick one up soon. They are currently on vacation so maybe early next year.
Good review once again!
Looks like a good shifter
Just bought one!!
Edit: not gonna arrive until July 15 full month and a half wait.
After spending WAY too much on the r5 bundle and for shipping, I needed a budget shifter that can mount to a desk that isn't crappy. This is far cheaper with shipping than the th8a shifter and seems much better.
the james may of sim racing
Thanks to your video i decided to order it, lets hope it works out well 😁👍
@@grijalbo29878 will do, says it should be here by the end of the month, they are overloaded with orders
@@grijalbo29878 sorry mate forgot about this comment, i absolutely love it, way better than g27 Shifter i used untill SHH
That voluptuous hair of Barry is getting so long I’m getting worried it may get tangled in the H pattern!
For all of us concerned fans of your hair, Barry, PLEASE, be careful using this 3D contraption.
Wow I never heard of this shifter before and just went on the website to see. I may just get one ordered. It looks like they are experiencing increased popularity because they state they are having problems keeping up with demand.
I like those gloves! I wanna try and find a pair like them haha
How does this compare to the th8a with a few mods? Also like the super moto and fpv quads in the background!
Great Video! What's better? The SSH shifter or the new project d shifter? Considering they're around the same price which would you choose?
I would say the spring under the circuit board is for adjustment, not for allowing impact.
supermoto for the win Berry!!!!
Hi Barry, thanks for another great video. Have you tried any dimsim shifter?
don't know if they producers of the shifter are ok with full dissambly of their products and revealing their technical secrets but indeed this shifter has some great amount of thinking behind the scenes
What would stop a competitor from buying one on their own and disassembling it? The video is thorough for subscribers to make better informed decisions on what piece of kit they would like to add or not want to add to their rig.
@@tonzofgunzXD yeah I agree, silly comment from me.
I have the version of this that came right before this one and it has been awesome.
Since I only use it for stock cars on Iracing I would like to have a plate for 4 speed with reverse up and left. I have access to a laser to cut an aluminum plate, would this be a problem or should I find some derlin to cut on waterjet?
Delrin better ;)
The only thing though stock cars shifter has Reverse down and to the right though.
I have the shh shifter and i'm happy with it. Very beautiful shifter (i recommend the carbon fiber style plate/also the 6 gears instead of the 7 gears one)
If i have th8a.is it much more different?
@@diamondjing2746 Just push and twist to get sequential. Flick a swith to change the button numbers for sequential so you don't have to overwrite your H mapping.
Why 6 gears instead of 7?
is it just me or does the sim racing garage intro use the lotus 79 engine sound byte? correct me if im wrong thank you. P.S. I love you barry and thanks for the best product breakdowns in sim racing and one of the best man cave/wrencher garages ever!!
SRG, how does this compare with a modded TH8A shifter with like the Mod Cambio or the Clixbeetle?
I have exactly the same question mate..
@@Haris1977 I bought it so I don't have 3 shifters. It doesn't feel that bad honestly. The SHH shifter is a little easier but not by much. It is a little to easy to bump out of gear too if you're not careful depending on where you have it placed and how you have your hand when driving. So far so good as it really like it. Again down a shifter so less cables nad makes it a little cleaner. I have the SHH shifter for sequential and H pattern and 1 TH8A for truck simulation driving with a mod. I had 1 TH8A sequential mode and 1 in H pattern mode and 1 for truck simulation.
because the entire arm of the shifter rotates when you switch to seq, maybe addit notches near the switches can make it short throw?
thanks barry, i was really looking forward for this review.
I am now deciding between this or the fanatec one, but i still think the fanatec is way overpriced for its quality..I would like to hear your thoughts on that.
take fanatec or frex or wait for heusinkveld
The Fanatec shifter gives you a better tactile "click" feeling when you get into gear (like Barry mentions the shifting on SHH is smooth). It also has mechanism to avoid getting into 7th or reverse accidentally (which I do a lot on my SHH). IMO overall Fanatec shifter is a better product in terms of functionality. However you would be paying for more than twice the price of an SHH. So it all comes down to your preference and your budget. I also have had great experience with SHH customer service (while Fanatec custom service is often pretty bad). They were very responsive and helpful. For me personally I like the SHH a lot, but if I would drive manual cars a lot more often than I am currently doing, I would have chosen a Fanatec shifter over SHH.
@@jeanmarclevy9413 The Heusinkveld Shifter is already 2 years late. I doubt we will see it anytime soon.
I totally agree with Stefan.
The NEWT has an updated h pattern gate so it has solved a lot of the accidentally getting into 7th or reverse problem. Also to be fair the one thing the Fanatec shifter has vs SHH is that neutral is an analog controller so you can actually use it as an analog handbrake whereas the SHH doesn't.
I own a recently purchased NEWT and haven't missed a shift since.
Could you not use a stiffer spring for more resistance?
Great review! I have an older model of SHH shifter which does not have the screw-on adapter. Do you have any insight where to get one of those shown at 6:00 ? I tried a few aftermarket shifter knobs, but the rubber tube did not hold rotation well when I switch from H pattern to seq from time to time.
Contact SHH. I believe you can get one from them.
Ordered one today, says i wont ship until Sept 25. I'm like a kid waiting on Christmas morning.
Steve D. Neal Jr. Same. Just ordered it today. Hopefully it'll be worth the wait.
Luis Alves, I believe it will be. Everything I have read and watched has praised these shifters other than the finish but if it does the job and lasts that’s what I’m all about!
So I've always had this question.. you can't downshift from 6th to 2nd directly in these "H pattern" shifters? In real manual cars (obviously just non racing, regular driving) let's say I need to reduce speed, so I'm in about 5th gear, I just hold the clutch, press the brakes a little, and stay on N until I need the throttle again, then I'm engage 2nd or 3rd gear and release the clutch. Is that not possible in sim/games? Or just something not optimal in terms of speed?
Could you elaborate? Which sim? In the games I play you can downshift from 6th to 2nd.
Why do you think that's not possible in the first place? That's one of the main features of an H-shifter, otherwise it would just be a more complicated sequential which would make no sense at all.
Now as a friendly hint: the way you describe your real car driving you a) waste fuel and b) wear the clutch unnecessarily. To avoid both you should let off the throttle and let the car roll *in gear* and then later shift down to the desired lower gear and put it *in gear* again directly. That way you'll save fuel since when rolling in gear the ECU in road cars will switch off fuel injection so you're rolling without using any fuel. In contrast to that the ECU will inject fuel when you're rolling while holding the clutch and also if you'd roll in neutral. The reason for that is that otherwise the engine would stall so fuel is injected to keep it rotating. Regarding holding the clutch while rolling or standing at a red light that will cause a lot of wear on the clutch. So at a red light it's best to engage neutral.
Regarding skipping gears on downshifting in real racecars that comes down to car, driving style, grip conditions etc.. So you might see drivers engage each gear when shifting down with blipping the throttle at the right moments while others will engage only one other gear between 6th and 2nd for example while another driver could go directly from 6th to 2nd with only one (in that case heavier of course) blip of the throttle.
Anybody reading this please correct me if something I mentioned is wrong :-)
@@armorgeddon oh wow thanks for the detailed reply. I've always heard about the fuel consumption when on N so generally I take that into account, what I described above is not what I do 100% of the time, it's more to illustrate what I wanted to do in game. But still, I do that sometimes and I should indeed avoid it, what you've said about the injection while on N makes sense. Thanks for that! On the other subject I might wanna invest on that shifter, I enjoy it so much more in real life, if it's indeed anything comparable to the real thing I think it'll be worth getting one.
@@johnf.kennedy3175 I play mostly Gran Turismo and Asseto Corsa. I think you've answered already. From this video I had the impression you couldn't downshift more then 1 gear at a time.
Any suggestions frex, shh newt, or fanatec which one has the most resistance n feels the best
Quite the amazing job as always ! - Im wondering if a shifter could double as a nose wheel tiller in Flight Sim ?
I cant find anything satisfying to use as a nose wheel tiller, an axis that moves forward and backwards, or turns like a dial.
Is there any way to lessen the throw on the sequential? A real one barely moves when you push or pull it
Nice Barry is as always detailed but I only would have like to know the cost of that shifter, being that item is not well known or popular and is it available in the US
Hi Barry, if you get time you should do a review on the new all metal shifter that’s been going around aliexpress. Well, not sure how new it is but seems to be recent.
Hi, what is the name of the new all metal shifter you're talking about? I didn't find it on aliexpress. Can you share a link? Thanks.
could you put longer screws in the preload thing, to get a harder preload?
Sinc Media that was exactly what I was thinking, maybe 0.5 or 1.0 mm longer would do the trick. But the stress on the internals might become to much, I guess it would void warranty for sure.
@@fastfolky yeah, i think im just going to go for the fanatec 1.5 shifter. Just reasurance really and a really good product
Sinc Media solid choice, I just went for the SHH because my whole rig is a wooden diy deal and I have no other fanatec gear so I would also need the pretty pricy USB adapter. I’m sure the Fanatec is the better solution but I only drive stick or sequential about 1/3 of the time so this will have to do.
@@fastfolky yeah. My next rig is going to be a ddw with a sim labs cockpit so it would probs be ideal, i also mostly drive h pattern or siquential. I would still have to get the adaptor though which is annoying
@@fastfolky Be carefull, the Fanatec has some serious issues with misshifting! Instead of 5th gear mine shifts into Reverse sometimes. Their support is not really good and I havent seen any case on the internet yet where they solved this issue to full satifaction of their customer.
Also the sequential shiftermode is so bad to a point that I just stopped using it. The throw is too long and it has unrealistic stong amount of resistance. I think the whole shifter is way overpriced, and I regret buying it.
That's some aggressive heel n toe xD
Looks nice but i m concerned about the difficulty - or not - about going into the 5th or 6th gear..Would love to see a six speed plate (without the reverse gear). The reverse could be engaged by pushing the knob down and putting the stick into 1st gear...
I am student but want buy first shifter. Can you recommended this?
How this is compare to Heusinkveld seq shifter Or Thrustmaster TH8A?
Is the mounting for this the same as say Fanatec’s mounting holes? In other words if your rig is drilled for Fanatec, logitech and thrustmaster will their mounting bracket bolt right on with no drilling?
You can choose TH and Logitech like mounting options. We have not the modern Fanatec shifter like mounting option.
Doubt it works for console? Just curious.. Great video! 👌
On its own, it wont work with console, but with a DriveHub, you can connect your wheel, shifter, handbrake, etc. and make it work on any console
Great review. What pedals are you using?
Wave Italy Impetus.
Can you mount it facing the other way *with the logo facing forward?
The holes for the mounting option are always in the front. If you mount the shifter like you say the shifter will work anyway but everything would be reversed too.
Hey man, Let me ask you a question, If I may? Which shifter would you buy if you had to pick one? The Thrustmaster TH8A, or this one? This will help me with my upgrade from my G920. Thanks!
i know i‘m a bit Late but a comment here said that the ssh shifter feels much better than a modded th8a so i would pick the ssh
@@MrSnoopi lol I ended up going wth fanatic. 😊
@@fatboyhilton Nice, probably worth the money but if your on a tight budget like me the shh is perfect
Did u mention u can customize the logo on it with your own graphics or did i miss that?
Sure you can, you only have to pay an extra $10 I think and provide them with a vector file of the logo.
Would love a review on the Newt 2. They're very thin on the ground and the quality of the reviews available at the moment is nothing like this.
thanks a lot ..
What happened to the d-box setup?
Still there. I often run without it during testing sessions. Allows me to focus on the item up for review.
Can it be used as handbrake in sequential mode?
Yes, if mapped properly. But it would only be an on/off switch for the handbrake. Just like mapping a button on your wheel or button box.
Great shifter. But the tensioning spring came loose after 9 months. Not a huge deal to fix but annoying.
What driver bits are you using?
Hudy.
i think its safe to say barry can throw down a sick lap at sebring!!!!
What a coincidence, I was just looking at this. Thanks for the very thorough review.
What would you say between this and the Fanatec CSS1.5? I know they're essentially in different budget brackets, but just wondering if this holds a candle to the CSS?
I had the SHH 7R last year and wasn't a fan; shifting felt unnatural to me, as I didn't like the spacing between gates and the shifter stiffness was way too tough/fake feeling. Sold it and went to the CSS, which is lightyears better. I highly recommend the CSS.
@@kingcars by chance what do you mean shifter stiffness? How much force to shift gears is what I'm guessing. I have modded my TH8A shifters to be harder to shift for a more tactical and lifelike to a real car.
@@EricGibson1 Yes, that is partially what I was referring to. Before I go further, I'll just say that obviously this is anecdotal but it is my current experience.
I've owned and driven manual transmission cars for the last 13 years, and I currently own 5 - a 2017 Shelby GT350, three 1988 Ford Thunderbirds and a 2015 Volkswagen GTI. I've driven various other manual transmission cars as well, such as older muscle cars. Not a single manual transmission car I have ever driven has felt anything remotely like the SSH shifter in terms of stiffness or gate spacing; granted, I haven't driven a gated manual in real life, though, so those cars might have more similarities.
The Fanatec Clubsport shifter provides an infinitely closer resemblance in general to the cars I have driven and experienced. The muscle memory is nearly identical and the overall feel is very close, at least in terms of a $250 simulated shifter.
I also generally have issues with the sentiment I see among a lot of sim racing enthusiasts that a stiffer shifter is more realistic. Might be true to some extent, but generally it's not. Real life manual shifters don't require a ton of effort.
@@kingcars yeah It shouldn't be hard to switch gear but should be harder to shift than the stock TH8A shifter as it almost just falls out of gear if u keep hand on it (stock). I have mine set up so it feels like I'm shifting something and not moving something if that makes sense.
Does it works with Farming Simulator 22? :D
So as an American who would have to pay 28 euros on shipping if I wanted this, would it be worth it just to get he TH8A for $150usd and free amazon prime shipping instead?
Actually the shipping cost is 24 EUR to US. Unfortunately free shipping is not an option for little companies.
@@shhsimulation Weird, when I went to check out it said 28 euros, at least to California. And tbh, I completely understand, I really want to support you guys, it amazing work but I have a tight budget so I need to think I about these things
@@FrontlineChief please, send us an email info()shiftershh.com, we want to understand why is showing that price, it seems a website problem!
What are other shifters at this price point? I mean $110usd, what else is there?
can i use this with a drivehub?
Can you please do a review on fanatecs hand break?
He has one if you do a search for it.
Can this be used as handbrake?
Why not? It is a normal gaming peripheral. You can map it as you want. But there are cheaper alternatives, using it just as a hand brake would be a waste.
@@haramaschabrasir8662 Which alternatives?
Great work, like every time. Please, could you tell me what pedals set is this? Many thanks
Wave Italy Impetus.
Barry, is it my phone or your camera? Your head is cut off in a lot of the video. And I have never seen/noticed that before. Like final thoughts I see your chin and lower only.
In most of my videos camera focus is on product not me. Final thoughts and Intro always show all of me. So, try viewing those segments on a computer.
How much is this?
100€
@@whysoslow1999 that's a good price for what it looks like
Looks better than the logitech shifter
@@moderman512 I have a NEWT, it is leaps and bounds better than both the Logitech and Thrustmaster shifter options
@@jonathanhiener2463 is it comparable to the css fanatec?
my god barry, i was not expecting such a sexy soothing voice.
Can I use it on ps4??