Legacy of the Tailhook Scandal | Retro Report | The New York Times
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- Military sexual assault is not a new phenomenon. A second look at the Tailhook scandal in 1991 reveals what happened then. And what it all means now.
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as a young person, retro report is super valuable to me bc i have never heard of most of the cases discussed in retro report
Same here, I'm just happy that Im not watching vine compilations anymore.
Both man n woman r assulted in job. What is amazing to see that man r the one who r mostly sexual assault in army, navy, air force. I always heard those stories but i never thought its this big.
Man cant get to express there feelings. If they show there emotions then its a laughable matter in society. This is why suicide rate is 100x time higher than 80s n 90s.
As a totally real person, retro report is super valuable to me bc of the way it is.
space alien look at you doing adult things! 😃
They are really retro!
If it's a crime in the civilian world, it's a crime in the military.
United States of Embarrassment 100 Precent Agreed.
United States of Embarrassment
Should be.
yes it is, however, how do we know if the female telling the truth or not? Nowsaday, whenever a guy was accused to sexual assault, he immediately becomes guilty even though there is no clear evidence yet as it is a she said he said case
Long Lee
This is a historical case-no lies just indisputable facts here. Nobody even denied that this happened to her. In fact they blamed her for it happening to her. Like she had no business being there and of course what did she expect and that she should have known better. What's even more infuriating is that as an Admiral's Aide, she outranked them all. And still she was blamed for it.
United States of Embarrassment Wait, what about murder?
I've said it for years, the military is not qualified to investigate itself, especially in these cases. Everyone's been conscripted and molded to the point where they'll turn a blind eye. This is the price of training any service member. Criminal justice is better off in civilian hands.
Clearly Congress and even outside agencies are typically not qualified to investigate the military.
I wouldn't let any student grade their own paper.
Why should anything like the military be any different.
I don't even let my myself check my own work, when it's the kind that needs to be checked.
No one anywhere can check their own work all by themselves properly.
It's impossible.
Agreed
@@Irvingstark Right! That's a good point my friend.
@@Irvingstark betacase is just plain wrong. The military has not been "conscripted and molded" You wouldn't let a student grade their own paper but you do it, right? You are still part of the school system, are you not? Same with the military. Organizations and individuals granted authority, like you are, are charged with exorcising that authority.
Bless these women and men that have the courage and support to open up about how they’ve been abused by fellow armed forces members and the system that protects them.
Bea M yea all 3 of them 🤣
@@brandonwalsh13 there are many more believe me
Mitch Connell was not even prosecuted for assaults.
I’m a Black man. I left the military because of racial harassment.
@@beestingza War kills women too. If they can get killed as civilians there is no reason that they can’t be soldiers , sexist a$$hole. That doesn’t give men a reason to harass women. I’m a Black man. I had to deal with Racial Harassment.
The Pentagon: "We found sufficient evidence of 90 victims and 140 perpetrators. But like, we're not gonna prosecute those guys, we'll handle it internally."
Also the Pentagon: "We prosecute every case where sufficient evidence exists."
🙄
Having served in the Marines I can tell you that it's hard to hear about sexual assault. Someone who was once your friend is now accused of rape. Or being raped. You want to believe that couldn't happen or that that person didn't do it. But it's good to have theses cases prosecuted outside of the unit environment. That will lead to justice and peace for those who are raped. And no safe place for those who commit that dishonorable crime.
BDOG2010able f
Except it doesn’t lead to justice. Did you watch the video?
@@SaphireXari It was all investigated within the military itself and no justice was accomplished. That is what the commenter is saying. It should be investigated by outsiders. Non military personnel. So there will not be any biases either way. Then maybe there will some justice.
it's hard everywhere... nothing different in the military.... picking on the military feels good, but is just hype
@@chtomlin No. I was not brought back in my own body.
God bless her, and thank you for your courage, it's contagious.
I agree. She is a real American hero for coming forward and exposing these atrocities.
@@jessicam.1267 Tailhook was just a pretext to neuter the top brass and install a bunch of social justice apparatchiks.
shame on those people that don't think this is an issue!! real men don't rape women, and real comradership means looking out for each other.
dresden *Stands up and applauds very loudly* Preach it!!
God Bless You. You're a Great Human Being for your comment!!🇺🇸👍✌
? Nearly half the victims were men. If your gonna just parrot what somebody else said parrot all of it
@@thecop-arazzi653 83 women and seven men were assaulted. Now I know that 7 and 45 are both very close numbers and very easy to confuse, but try not to switch them.
@@thecop-arazzi653 Math is hard huh? 😢
Well done Lewis for coming forward.
As a female combat veteran, that story is not far fetched. There are some creepy guys in the military and I know that from first hand experience. By no means do I mean all.
Not all, but too many
It doesn't help that they lowered standards to allow women in.
@@beestingzawomen have been in the military for decades.
These sexual assaults are unconscionable and it is unbelievable to me that anyone could allow them to continue.
The other thing that struck me is that this year, in 2013, women were "allowed" to be ground troops. What!? If ANYONE, male or female, is willing to give their life in service of their country, let them do whatever they volunteer for (assuming, rightfully, they have been trained and are qualified). Let merit and capability decide, not gender. I feel like we're still in the dark ages...
exactly ... and you don't need to be a buff manly man to shoot a assault rifle or pilot a fighter jet either its the 21th century for godsake. ...... in 2018 this has been turned on its head though im not sure we will ever learn to just accept people for who they are and what they can do not what their gender is or the colour of their skin - or even their sexuality. its stupid too, its a waste of resources and potential.
Jamison Will I feel we are still in the dark ages as well not just with this but many other things.
Kevin Miedema Amen
Willingness is not the only criteria to serve. And lord I wish it were mostly made on merit.
@@km5405 If that soldier needs tomove around the battlefield, being a buff, manly man goes a long way. It is 2018 and yet the modern soldier is not much different than he was 300 years ago.
Double standards which benefit women are also a waste of resources too.
She found another way to serve her country ❤️❤️❤️ Thank you for your service Paula.
This behavior isn't natural. Letting people get away it is in many ways worse than the crime itself.
Us military get away doing dirty works in middle east
These are supposed to be grown men?!
The men in CHARGE are supposed to be grown, at least.
Those convicted of " sexual harassment and/or assault" should be given "severe prison sentences" and then...and only then...removed from the military with no pensions..
@@jimshoe6699 💯
Man children is the right term for these "MeN" 😂
Big salute to Paula Coughlin. 'Showed more courage than a lot of her fellow officers at Tailhook.
I am 34 and joined the Army at 22. I, too, was sexually harassed by one of my NCOs, who was an E-7 and a monster. I wish I'd reported it but I was so embarrassed. I am no longer in the Military but If I could go back in time, I would have spoken up.
Sorry Jessie. With shitheads covering up crimes like this, you would probably find yourself being demoted or even court martialed. I absolutely will never serve in the "military." They have no decency or honor and sometimes are hardly any better than Himmler's brutal Waffen-SS.
JessieA I am a black male. When I was in the Military I had to deal with a lot of physical harassment. I promised myself that I would never join an organization where I couldn’t charge somebody with battery if the need arises.
Sorry to hear that 😞 I hope your doing great now. Niall from Ireland 🇮🇪
What's E-7?
@@gurugulab1414 It is a rank. E = enlisted and new soldiers start at E1.
You truly are a hero. Thank you for your service and thank you for coming forward.
Without media exposure she couldn’t have done it. Military leadership has crushed many others who tried to speak out.
Every time I watch another Retro Report, I’m reminded how awful humanity truly is. The complete filth people do to each other for personal gain makes me sick to my stomach.
Sounds like projection.
At this point in my life i'm just deluding myself that the world is fine, that i just have to get through life until i'm dead
Toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
@DJ FX I am so sorry. I hope you get some education. Pity the parents that raised you.
hoibsh; now its only toxic femininity that causes problems, such s a shame
lol...yea "Toxic masculinity"...more then half were rapes of other men. lol
Exactly. And for those numbskulls that don't get it, the assaulted men were assaulted by other men.
Totally. We certainly wouldn’t want to have “toxic masculinity” among warriors (u know, the people fight, potentially to the death, for the defense of our country and its constitution).
I am veteran USN 86 91. I was physically abused and emotionally harassed by more than just 1 senior person. I had an officer, Captain, who saw it. Asking me questions and finally forced retirement on E9 which was something. I always thought I did something wrong until he stood up for me! I was a wreck for a year...drinking etc. My husband, a sailor, who eventually became an officer, was an advocate for women and never tolerated any crap! I am not afraid to mention the abuse. Still proud of my service and glad people are speaking up!
I had to endure racial harassment in the Navy. I learned that you should never join an organization where you can’t charge someone with BATTERY if the need arises.
This is also the most extreme example of the harm the "boys will be boys" attitudes can cause
Appoint a woman as head of the committee and then you might get some justice
Not necessarily dude.
In the wake of Vanessa Guillen, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's not much better for women in the military now
Certainly it is much better now. But being much better now than back then doesn't say much. It doesn't mean it's great.
It’s hard to imagine the agony of working so hard to be a professional but not having respect from your teammates. Sexism even as a micro aggression is brutal. This stuff is on another level.
Its not misogny when women do it.
If you are worried about "micro aggressions" you are far too fragile to be in the military.
That woman is the real American hero!!
2018 and still it seems like it happens
Maybe now. When I was in the USN 1986-1990, I was never disrespected as a female. Maybe because I was enlisted.
It’s awful it really is
Still DOES happen, all the time, every 98 seconds. Same soup warmed over. And now we have serial sexual assaulter Kavanaugh sitting on the Supreme Court.
Allison Bauch, don't you know it.
There's a really good podcast episode from Crime Junkies about women being murdered in the US Military and it being a cover up. Episode 51.
wow. i can't believe i'd never heard of this. she is a real hero.
Revisiting this site. I still See the Paula I knew. when we worked together, we handled several cases of discriminatory misconduct. It was a joy to partner with someone who expressed a saavy and deep wrong/right convition essence. I understand she is involved with Yoga and other v e r y helpful and contributing areas of private/social assistance/advancement. Go Paula! You re a universal extra-illuminary. Shining through the shadow of life for all to see with greater clarity, their vision of intent and sincerity.
All life needs more like you! You are a beautiful reminder to just how wonderful life is! , and will always be!
Geffrey Schulz
You forgot to change your profile didn't you?
Explain yourself Mr! That remark is conveyed as if I am supposed to know what it means. So?
Youre an awesome person for that comment. You're a Saint and True Friend for certain!
Ignore the spooks. She's clearly a top-notch lady. Don't worry that some TH-cam commenter could insult your integrity.
Brian Lewis I’m sure you will never see this. But you are a enough and your story matters. You aren’t any less of a man, and you should never feel shame for the violence done to you. from one survivor to another, I see you. And to anybody else this also applies to you. ♥️
Love that you guys are bringing these cases back to light - it’s really inspirational seeing such strong men and women
Paula Coughlin is a hero, good work.
It is because of this scandal that so many of us female veterans had a chance to share our stories and be heard for once.
It’s a disgrace that women still don’t feel comfortable speaking out about these things in the military today. We should be ashamed at how dismissive military officials still are when these things go on.
Wow i have watched 8 back to back episodes of this so far this is so awesome
Deeply Blue I'm on my 5th one
Former Lt. Paula Coughlin is a class act.
With the recent case of Vanessa Guillen, this throwback is almost even more sad.
Madeline H. Please don’t forget about Lavena Johnson
this lady is amazing
Sooo 140 Officers were confirmed to have been involved... but 0 prosecutions? Someone help me understand this.
The aviators circled the wagons because they did not want to aid the witch hunt. The Navy ruined the careers of many, including those who merely attended the event.
@@Darling137It was not a witch hunt and Balfour Beatty made LLCs and even paid people to take people hostage and killed people.
Sexual assault is still a big issue in the military, nothing has changed. The US Army doesn’t value the lives of their soldiers, so why fight for them?
I am unfortunately not surprised that an organisation which trains recruits to be callous and fight immoral wars has this issue. Those who come forward are very brave and I admire them deeply.
@Charles Charlemagne not my military but okay
"... several physical assaults and a few rapes."!!!!!!!!!!?????? The normalcy in the way she describes her attacks is just disgusting, that she has had to normalize it in her head because nothing really happened. This is despicable. Shame on men who see women as their property, as "theirs".... In my opinion, ESPECIALLY those in the military. You are supposed to be held and live to a higher standard. Shame on you.
A real man never harms or forces himself on a woman and he knows that a woman can be just as good a soldier as him
What ever happened to keep your hands to yourself? Also what happened to keeping your pants on? Oh yeah, people only do when they actually have a risk against them.
Just imagine, these women actually could talk to their superiors and report these things. What about the civilians in the countries where these men serve? They have no voice. Who knows what kind of atrocities have been committed in those countries? You could say none. You could say millions. With no accountability, you can't know innocence from guilt...
I have not, no. We are in agreement then-- as I said, so long as anyone (male or female) is willing, have the training and are qualified, let them join. It's that simple. Gender has nothing to do with it.
Naval aviators and fighter pilots generally occupy the most sought after positions in military. Combat flying is demanding, dangerous and needs enourmous amounts of skill honing to be good at it. For these reasons, it's pretty clear that not just anyone can really become a pilot. They say that these people represent the sharpest tip of professional soldiers. I think we as civilians have all the right to expect reasonable and civil behaviour of these "highly selected professionals". I just find it hard to believe anyone who does raping in community gathering for fun could be responsible and fair executive in military chain of command. Not being chauvinistic jerk should be the absolute minimum criteria to wear uniform and represent your country
That's why they get cocky and think they are better than everyone and can do anything they want.
Racism is sometimes thrown into the mix.
Lavena Johnson
I have no respect for military personnel who mistreat women.
guystudios How about having no respect for anyone who mistreats another human being.
How can criminals be allowed to "serve" in the navy or military??
Katheryn Bolkevac The Whistle Blower covered up what Balfour Beatty Halliburton Kellogg Brown Root Dyn Corps UN NATO and the FBI and CIA and NSA and Interpol and Military Police do in my family and why rarely both twins survive.
If you think this is shocking, listen to Kay Griggs' interview on youtube. Wife of a US Colonel.
+Marny King I would have made this comment if you hadn't. After you listen to Kay Griggs you may be prepared for the level of true filth Captain Field McConnell and David Hawkins of the Abel Danger Channel expose. Brace yourselves.
That's a point I consider reasonable to a degree, but for now, get rid of the assholes on the gravy train. SHE was never the problem.
Vincent Cuttolo I am well versed in criminology. RAPE IS NOT ABOUT SEX! If rape were about sex then men who have access to plenty of consensual sex wouldn't be rapists. Rape is NOT a crime of passion it is a crime that is about power and control. Most rapists are thoughtful and plan their attacks. Even if they take an "opportunity" to sexually assault someone they have an MO. Hence when someone is caught multiple victims are likely to come forward with similar stories.It's clear by equating rape to murder and fighting you know very little about rape. Also one time sexual criminals are rare since IF those "one time" criminals get help it is usually found they have engaged in other non consensual acts. It is rare, (with the exception of mob mentality & even then many hang back & don't participate) that those not inclined to rape just happen to one day rape.
If your argument is that all the high stress of military life encourages rape then clearly it matters not who the person rapes and they will rape male service members too.
I don't think that means you exclude women from the ranks, It means you prosecute and exclude those who commit crimes from your ranks.
Now I'll leave you to give more reasons why men NEED to rape because um reasons that aren't real.
sounds interesting. BTW, I like your name.
Thank you. It means All that is good. :)
The film “The Generals Daughter” with John Travolta and James Cromwell is loosely based on this story.
She stood Alone
James Cromwell will ALWAYS be Mr. Skolnick in “Revenge Of The Nerds” to me.
You are a true inspiration. Hats off to you for coming forward.
Sexual double standards and aggression still run rampant in the US armed forces. I was working at Aviano Air force Base in Italy as a civilian when a major scandal was brushed under the carpet in the officer corps. Disgusting.
It’s sad and tragic that these courageous woman who swore to protect our country, were not protected by their own comrades!
Never heard of that case before. Love that channel. Thank for the quality content you allow us to see.
“or stealing hand grenades “
“Boom !.....
Too perfect
I guess they only stole the pin.
This should have been career ending for all involved with some in prison with hard labor.
And this is the main reason I never joined the military. I was pretty close at one time.
I served for 15 years in a tier 1 unit. I was fortunate never to come across any of this. I would like only to add that sexual assault (or any assault) WITHIN a military is not only a criminal and moral issue it is also a security issue. A military cannot operate successfully if its own are under assault from within. No human can serve effectively if they are in fear and distrust of their peers and commanders.
As far as opening positions to women, this too should have been done under security considerations alone. You need good people where you can get them. Not allowing half the population to even be considered for a job is only harming your ability to get the best person possible. So again, even without any ethical consideration, this would be the right move to make.
But I would also like to offer a warning from my experience: I would not recommend soldering for women. But If they choose to pursue it, and they are good at it, then we need every good person we can get. Usually the military is chasing after every recruit they can. This leaves a sub par pool of candidates. Discrimination of any kind is not something we can afford. Anyone saying otherwise does not have the best interest of the American people at heart.
Not the worst case, the worst IDENTIIFIED case.
I briefly considered joining the military, on and off. But for every good thing, there were overwhelming negatives. I just can't cover up for pigs, incompetents, or liars. From this, to the Aviano, Italy gondola coverup, I wouldn't have been the kind of guy that could "get with the program." Unfortunately, the military is setup to drive people like me out. As for Lt. Coughlin and Anita Hill, they set in motion changes that impacted me later. When AmeriCorps was setup, a lot of retired military were in leadership positions, and they did get the memo on sexual harassment. Much of our training was top-notch because the leadership did their jobs and fully supported mandates.
I had to endure racial harassment in the Navy. Too many White men channeled their sexual insecurities into pranks on Black men. I learned that you should never join an organization where you can’t charge someone with BATTERY if the need arises. Unfortunately , you can’t file a lawsuit against other service members.
I worked with Paula Coughlin. Ever since meeting her and working with her, I was impressed and knew she was not one for tollerating- Other than advertized. There was a collective- Oh no! That is someone we should nt have Fd with!
PO Shultz HC-2
I was in Iraq 2005. Keeping a low profile, I actually met an USAFA officer charged for the conduct. He said he was held back one academic year and was required to immediately pursue his Master's Degree to return to pace with his peers. This also became political among the women officers as a career stepping stool. I watched Captains and Majors literally debate any order given to them from "above". In the early stages of "me too", any perceived uncomfortable action was placed in light of any current scandal. There was entirely too much debate over otherwise specific orders. I had been in service over 20 years at that point. THEY finally realized entire careers had to be adjusted for the political event "pocket" to end its abuse.
Disgusting: The Generals are enabling and encouraging it by not severely punishing these people.
Because they would do it too: its their mentality.
Very often it was the higher ups who actually did this behavior; they would protect not only themselves but those like them
@@azurekuzma3598 True: Or everyone who isnt like them will go and they will implode and than it comes out and can no longer be hidden and sustaining.
Thank you Paula Coughlin for your service, but especially, for your service!!
so frustrating that this is still going on the military needs to handle these situations better!
A proper investigation is the least that should happened in these cases
Disgraceful.
Do they not remember being driven out of Vietnam by a military force with women in it?
I remember reading about this years ago, and I was so shocked I told my friends in high school the very next day, and they didn't believe me. They thought I misread and that these people were raping "the bad guys" (and that's not better), but no, it happened like this :(
Harassment is wrong. The end result is that pressure from Congress forced the Navy to lower its competitive selection standards to fly fighter jets by instituting a quota to enable women to be promoted over other more qualified pilots. As a result, some female pilots have died.
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has been trying to pass the Military Justice Improvement Act for a few years now.
And she has no idea how the military works and just how much power the military vests in its commanders. Her suggestions are impractical at best.
Found this video right after reading, a woman in the Assam Rifles was found dead near where she was posted in Dimapur, India yesterday, she was in her 20's and I found out she used to live not far from where I live...Her body is being brought home..Kinda feeling sad and angry so I had to say something..
A painful reminder, and unfortunately it would seem little has changed. The statement by the investigating officer is disgraceful. I suspect he kept his job, which is ludicrous, offensive, and unbelievable.
Hurray for Paula!
I salute you, ma'am.
Wow we are still treating women as 2nd class this is embarrassing
Just absolutely disgusting.
One more reason NOT to support the troops. You never know what you’re supporting.
Loving this one thanks for sharing very important information giving thanks blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work
2022 I'm pretty sure it's still the same.
My ex was in the military and SH and SA are still very common and everyone is encouraged to overlook it and not report it
The bravery of Brian Lewis ❤️
this makes me sick
Thank you.
Badass women right there.
She’s a hero.
I hope sigourney weaver played her in a movie at some point
Where I live, women were allowed to serve on combat ships and fly jets in combat in 1990. In fact, both the Navy and Air Force allowed women to serve fully in any combat related job by 1991. The Army, however, were still backward in this area until 2011, but they got there. Of course, it goes without saying, they must meet the requirements for the job.
Except I know of many woman pilots that are clueless but got the job to meet a quota. Know some that killed their crew and others that cant read a map.
John Raymond Yeah? I know many men that fall into the same category.
Right. Sure. Whatever.
Now how did I know you were going to say that.
TheKazadoodle Why did he say that?
Awful legacy. I hope Sen. Carl Levin leaves office quickly so a responsive public servant can be chairmen and take prosecutions away from military officers. Then maybe some of these rapists can be brought up on actual charges and have their day in court to face the allegations.
Paula is a brave woman.
i remember growing up whenever fleet week happened there would be articles about the rise of sexual assault in our city because of it like clockwork every year
Yesterday’s news, today!
12:24 The military should be like those dogs. It's cuddly, strong and loyal, but it should also respect women like Paula Coughlin.
Thank u for educating me
What a disgrace! I pray people won't think of all our troops this way.
Those changes have ruined our armed forces
Smh I could never join this mess
Tailhook ruined the fun for all sailors forever after as it turned into a newer and softer Navy.
I heard of some scandals. But I ain't never heard of this one. I wonder if my mom had ever heard of it.
I remember when the Air Force commander got arrested. We had sexual assault training for months after that!