Yeah, it is an activated ability of a Creature *card* , but when something says just "Creature", outside of something like "Protection from Creatures", it means specifically a Creature Permanent on the Battlefield. It's a very specific distinction, so I don't blame them for not knowing off-hand.
@@collinbeal Yeah, GA seems like it's a little bit older wording style(came out in 2011). If they designed this card now, good chance it would say "on the battlefield" or if they wanted to juice it up, add "anywhere" so it would affect creature cards in hand.
The top Boros deck doesn’t play helix because it’s a convoke deck. It has very little room for any card that doesn’t make a creature. The removal of case of the runaway express scales better in a go wide deck and Warleader’s Call has better reach in that type of deck. If Boros was more of a prowess or burn deck, it would definitely play helix. If red had better control support, then a jeskai control deck would spawn up and play helix. But the meta has lined up in a way that just doesn’t provide a home for helix.
I faced a Jeskai Control deck today on ladder in Standard Bo1, and it was pretty obvious that the splash was for _Lightning Helix_ and their finisher, _Zurgo and Ojutai_
@@LunaLasceria I agree. It’s like Nissa. She really didn’t see play in standard until the land combo decks came about. Did that mean she was a bad card? Obviously not. She just didn’t have a home yet.
While I miss the individual videos I was not a fan of one video condensing all of them. But having it be on a podcast? That's even better then before. I love this way of doing a top 10 style of the cards
Dunno how Richard loves MDFCs and Lorien Revealed but somehow doesn’t see the value of Harvester of Misery. It collects evidence for 5, it is a creature in the yard (the easiest thing to recur), and it is flexible as either removal or a threat depending on the matchup. It’s not busted in either mode, but both sides are reasonably efficient with plenty of space for synergies.
@20:00 I agree there is no way that a 2 mana flying, vigilance */3 that can allow you to loot each turn is bad in standard. @23:10 works with cryptic coat, and itself, realmbreaker, roaming throne, moon smithy, fleshgorger, steel seraph, krenko's buzzcrusher, braided net, mightstone and weakstone, those were like the best I could find. but it is also on ETB, it is going straight into my bernard deck if its affordable.
Really surprised at how much Crim was underselling Mana Drain. It’s not just any counterspell, it’s the best non-free counterspell they’ve ever made. It’s tempo and ramp in one card. There’s a reason it’s banned or restricted in every format, lol.
Agree. I think he’s manifesting it staying off the banlist for his personal interest. I will say, though, that it feels like threats have outpaced answers in historic/timeless, and a lot of decks are just racing to do their busted thing before their opponent’s deck does. Still, will be surprised if it doesn’t get banned/restricted here too.
Grand Abolisher's ability refers to permanents on the battlefield, even though it doesn't state it. So no, it doesn't stop Harvester of Misery just like it doesnt stop boseiju. Sad harvester isn't a spirit plant tho, it looks like a cactus folk.
@@KarmicMishapThis is correct. When creatures, enchantments, artifacts, etc. are referenced it is referencing permanents on the battlefield. When referring to a creature card not on the battlefield it will say creature card. From reanimate: "Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control."
Terror of the Peaks might be good in the Vampire Push/Pull deck to double up on the game ending reanimation targets. Any combination of Terror and Vein Ripper is dealing a ton of damage.
The Haughty Djinn deck does still exist, cavern is annoying but the Djinn Wins games by himself, and Nathan looks like it would be an amazing addition. Aggro is usually our worst matchup so a vigilant X/3 should be nice 🧞♂️
Lost Jitte untapping Gaeas Cradle, Nykthos, Coffers and Sanctum in Commander, along with any proliferate synergies you can include to abuse the untaps even more per turn, seems pretty good for me. In constructed formats I think it's harder to pull off but I can see some Tron or Nykthos shenanigans happening.
As far as harvester of misery I believe it does count as a creature card in your hand and I think that's the reason because I know that the channel lands count as land abilities for getting the discount from that current cavern that's in standard and so if they're counted as a landability when your channeling them and surely a spell counts
One aspect of the slickshot show off they didn’t talk about was on turn 2 or 3 when your opponent is holding up their counterspell you can just plot your creature and pass
Seth tends to take the most reasoned "middle ground" positions on card evaluation, debates, etc., whereas Richard and especially Crim tend to voice stronger, more extreme opinions one way or the other. It's less not knowing what they're talking about and more them finding it more interesting to plant their flag on "This card sucks!" or "This card is going to break the format!" than to take the more conservative "I can see where this could be good but it'll come down to the meta so we'll just have to wait and see" position on every card. (FWIW I myself also tend to prefer Seth's trying to see both sides to their more highly opinionated styles, but, y'know, I can see both sides =P)
I think if every discussion was “this card might be good, let’s wait and see” then it would get pretty boring fast. The middle ground is only good after you’ve had the hyperbole.
Mill might actually be really viable in Timeless and Surgical Extraction is going to be very very strong to hit the Show and Tell or Omniscience hits the grave.
Harvester of misery isn't a creature while it isn't on the battlefield, its a creature CARD while its in your hand, and a creature spell while its on the stack. So at least to my knowledge, channel all you want with grand abolisher
Duelist is absolutely a constructed card. Baseline it’s a 2 mana 1/3 flying vigilance. It requires shockingly little to make it a 2/3 which looted. That’s just a solid value 2 drop. Your not planning to do some ridiculous combo kill thing where you get the card to one shot, but it’s a strong value 2 drop. And if you ever get a raffine trigger onto it it’s just insane. To be clear it’s a standard card, beyond that I don’t really think it cuts it, but card is good.
I agree with Crim that Duelist of the Mind is going to be good only in like the Memory decks. For some decks the Mastermind if better, for others Ledger Shedder is better. Duelist is simply occupying already heavily contested spot, while being not as versatile.
not sure why no one notice that Jayce becomes a card draw engine, imagine plotting expressive interaction, Sauron ransoms and etc maybe its not that relevant but seems like a lot of cards
Harvester of mystery is better than stomp. If you attack with a 3/3 and get blocked by a 4/4. You can save your creature. With stomp you lose yours too.
Satoru doesn't immediately replace itself of you cast it. You have go spend no mana on the spell to get the trigger. Reanimated, blink, evoke, and ninja, stuff like that will trigger it but casting creature spells won't.
Unless Jace becomes a bomb, Blue feels bad in this set. White has a great removal cards, black has search cards with creature bombs, green has tons of great cards for multiple archetypes and red has bomb spells
Is there any value to getting jace out early without casting it, like with restoration of eiganjo, squirming emergence, or sevinne's reclemation? Or even leyline of anticipation and caring it on an opponents turn?
Pest Control flavor fail: it mentions varmints, but it kills neither of the varmint cards (sure, there's a card that makes varmint tokens, but one in three is not exactly a win under most circumstances).
The conversation about mana drain is so silly... Crim is talking about the floor of the spell, and not the potential, really clear he hasn't experienced many games with the card. Obviously countering a 1 or 2 drop sucks, but countering a 3 drop, then on your turn 4 you cast teferi, plus, then you're holding up 4 mana for your opponent's turn is filthy... I could easily see mana drain getting restricted and I can't tell if Crim is just meming, cause he memes so often lol
@@LunaLasceria I know he's a big control player, but his opinions in this video would not make me think he has played the card much. You don't need to try very hard to construct a world where mana drain is too good for timeless, and Crim talking about countering 1 drops is so ridiculous that he must be joking.
Honestly don't think Mana drain will be that good in Timeless. Counter spell is basically unplayable, and no current deck can take advantage of the mana it gives you.
Honestly I don't think Djinn is gonna survive in a post-RIP format. Duelist of the Mind might have to pull the weight. A Flow of Knowledge does beef it up a ton in mono blue, but if Djinn and Terror are no longer reliable, idk what it's partner in crime would be.
Literally none of the abilities are the same, and most aren't very comperable. A +2/+2 pump versus a +1/+1 counter, eh probably a reasonable trade off. A creature can't block is so, so much worse than just killing creatures though; it has some different applications but an active U-Jitte just rules the battlefield and prevents so many creatures from even coming down because they'll just die. The land mode is an upgrade from life, probably in general and definitely in specific decks. But, half the counters. That's huge. One Jitte trigger gives four extra damage or kills two X/1s (or one X/2). One Lost Jitte trigger gives... one more damage. Or stops a single creature from blocking for a turn. That's not nearly as good.
Must be aprils fools when mana drain is being trash talked 😂 one of the best non-free counter spells printed. It was fair back when mana burn was a thing
There's more than that. They just aren't as recent: 1997: Olle Rade: Sylvan Safekeeper 1998: Darwin Kastle: Avalanche Riders 1999: Mike Long: Rootwater Thief 2000: Chris Pikula: Meddling Mage 2000: Jon Finkel: Shadowmage Infiltrator 2001: Kai Budde: Voidmage Prodigy 2002: Jens Thoren : Solemn Simulacrum 2004: Bob Maher: Dark Confidant 2005: Terry Soh: Rakdos Augermage 2006: Antoine Ruel: Ranger of Eos 2007: Thiago Chen: Snapcaster Mage
How did the new counterspell not make the list? It's a hard counter at 3, and it can replace itself for 3, as well as do both for 5. Its kind of an unholy marriage between Archmages Charm and Cryptic Command. May not be as powerfull as either, but, it has the qualities of both at a good rate for standard, so there is no doubt that control lists aren't running this.
It's a hard counter at 3 that's worse than Archmage's Charm in modern. And in standard, it's just a hard counter at 3 and that's enough to choke it out.
Temur Lands, Insidious Roots Golgari Midrange, Enchantments, 5c Invasion plays some recursion, Superfriends Proliferate plays Tamiyo, Control plays Deluge, Dimir Toxic Proliferate has that recursive bat, I've seen RDW play Scamp, which has a death trigger, Mono-Black with Virtue of Persistence and recursive threats, Mill with Mindbreaker, my janky +1/+1 deck in Platinum with Recommission, Angels, the meme Sultai Llurgoyf deck, Conspiracy Unraveler Combo, Rakdos Reanimator with Breach the Multiverse, Dimir Control with Siphon Insight, Gruul Ramp has some graveyard shenanigans. There's just a bunch of incidental graveyard use in Standard, enough that graveyard hate is main-deck.
@@FearOgre Looking on Goldfish at meta percentages for the past 2 weeks, it’s at 11.1%. For reference, Boros Convoke is at 13.6% and Domain is at 9.1%. Doesn’t seem that small, unless you consider Domain and Boros relatively small too. I think the presence is worth some sideboard slots and rest in peace is a great option
Jace Reawakened for Modern looks terrible the static effect along to me makes it unplayable. Modern is far too fast to have a card you can not play at all until your turn 4. This is Serra Avenger but at least Serra Avenger you can cheat into play with Aether Vial before turn 4. The idea that Cascade Decks like Living End would want to play this is even more laughable because it gets hit by Cascade. Can you imagine as a Living End player looking down lethal on the board to Cascade into Jace hearing sad trumpet noises "Wha, wha, wha, whaaaaaaa"
I think I've figured out what bothers me so much about Richard. He doesn't do well with NUANCE. So when someone says Harvester of Misery can be situationally really good, it matches up really well against certain decks that are prominent in the meta, it's flexible at different points of the game and allows for both early and late game plays. Richard responds with "would you play disfigure if it was legal? stomp is so much better". Stomp is better Richard, well done. Astute observation. This is not Stomp. This is also not Disfigure. Maybe this seems too slow or too situational to make a big impact in standard. Maybe it's relegated to the sideboard in black based midrange decks. But it's still potentially good there. Your avid opposition to cogent points is so frustrating to listen to. I turn off half of your podcasts because it's just so annoying to hear you be so absolutely closed minded to clearly hedged takes on cards. They're not saying Harvester of Misery is super good and will take over the meta, so stop acting like that's what they're saying. Try on nuance for a podcast or two. I think it will suit you well.
Krim is so dumb. He’s obviously never heard of chalice of the void or Lorian revealed for colorless manna. Also, I could just play eight counter spells now..
I feel like you could actually make a really nasty Modern deck with Rest In Peace in the main deck if you also play Bessech th Mirror. I dunno how it took this long for me to think about it. You could play Wasteland Scavenger in the deck too, yeah I'm thinking this might actually have legs.
Lost Jitte would be good if it also entered with counters. The fact you need to swing first to start getting value out of it makes it's play pattern kinda cringe.
Gentlemen, you've heard it here. Richard is sure Magic players can break Mana Drain.
We've done it.
That's what it takes for him to think a card is playable.
@@Kestral287he actually liked several of the cards they discussed. For once.
Yea but everyone else seems unconvinced. What is wrong with them
@@Kestral287 He is the perfect balance to Seth who thinks every card is playable
Satoru does not draw off his own ETB, unless he was cheated into play somehow.
Yeah, but I don't blame the crew, disgusting templating
I use satoru umezawa's ability to ninjutsu satoru umezawa into play(for four mana) so I can satoru umezawa while I satoru umezawa
@@Hornet-bz4xg The templating is fine; they just stopped reading halfway through the sentence.
@@LunaLasceria I mean true but why couldn't they just make it whenever 1 or more nontoken creatures etb... does that change anything?
@Hornet-bz4xg that's always been one if my biggest gripes with wizards templating. I'm not sure why either though
How could they do a Thunder Junction episode and Seth not wear his hat? Flavor fail
I definitely feel transgressed & violated.
The eclipse portal sucked it up.
They did a crime
I do feel targeted tbh @JonReid01
You're insufferable
Grand Abolisher only affects cards on the battlefield (per Gatherer), channeling Harvester should be good
Yeah, it is an activated ability of a Creature *card* , but when something says just "Creature", outside of something like "Protection from Creatures", it means specifically a Creature Permanent on the Battlefield. It's a very specific distinction, so I don't blame them for not knowing off-hand.
Yeah, it would have to say "artifact cards, creature cards, enchantment cards" to prevent channeling
@@collinbeal Yeah, GA seems like it's a little bit older wording style(came out in 2011). If they designed this card now, good chance it would say "on the battlefield" or if they wanted to juice it up, add "anywhere" so it would affect creature cards in hand.
Crimhas to be memeing or trying to undersell mana drain so it doesn't get banned "we already have counterspell" 😂😂😂
The top Boros deck doesn’t play helix because it’s a convoke deck. It has very little room for any card that doesn’t make a creature. The removal of case of the runaway express scales better in a go wide deck and Warleader’s Call has better reach in that type of deck. If Boros was more of a prowess or burn deck, it would definitely play helix. If red had better control support, then a jeskai control deck would spawn up and play helix. But the meta has lined up in a way that just doesn’t provide a home for helix.
Yeah, Magic players tend to equate "card does not see play" = "card is bad" which is a very reductive way to look at metagames.
I faced a Jeskai Control deck today on ladder in Standard Bo1, and it was pretty obvious that the splash was for _Lightning Helix_ and their finisher, _Zurgo and Ojutai_
@@collinbeal Ive seen that deck a little here and there. It feels close to breaking out.
@@LunaLasceria I agree. It’s like Nissa. She really didn’t see play in standard until the land combo decks came about. Did that mean she was a bad card? Obviously not. She just didn’t have a home yet.
While I miss the individual videos I was not a fan of one video condensing all of them.
But having it be on a podcast? That's even better then before. I love this way of doing a top 10 style of the cards
I feel like everyone in Seths life must have told him the cowboy hat didn’t suit him because he never wears it for the cowboy theme😢
He hated it before he even got it. I can't blame him for not doing something he seems to hate so much.
Dunno how Richard loves MDFCs and Lorien Revealed but somehow doesn’t see the value of Harvester of Misery. It collects evidence for 5, it is a creature in the yard (the easiest thing to recur), and it is flexible as either removal or a threat depending on the matchup. It’s not busted in either mode, but both sides are reasonably efficient with plenty of space for synergies.
@20:00 I agree there is no way that a 2 mana flying, vigilance */3 that can allow you to loot each turn is bad in standard. @23:10 works with cryptic coat, and itself, realmbreaker, roaming throne, moon smithy, fleshgorger, steel seraph, krenko's buzzcrusher, braided net, mightstone and weakstone, those were like the best I could find. but it is also on ETB, it is going straight into my bernard deck if its affordable.
Really surprised at how much Crim was underselling Mana Drain. It’s not just any counterspell, it’s the best non-free counterspell they’ve ever made. It’s tempo and ramp in one card. There’s a reason it’s banned or restricted in every format, lol.
Agree. I think he’s manifesting it staying off the banlist for his personal interest. I will say, though, that it feels like threats have outpaced answers in historic/timeless, and a lot of decks are just racing to do their busted thing before their opponent’s deck does. Still, will be surprised if it doesn’t get banned/restricted here too.
My tinfoil theory is that he's really just actively trying to anti-hype it so it's less likely to get banned.
To be fair, in typical control fashion, he just cant think of a finisher to use the mana for.
He also missed the interaction with lurres getting it for free into your hand
@@swiftdragonriderThat's not an interaction, just a use for the mana..?
9:15 the utter confusion of Richard is so funny.
Grand Abolisher's ability refers to permanents on the battlefield, even though it doesn't state it. So no, it doesn't stop Harvester of Misery just like it doesnt stop boseiju. Sad harvester isn't a spirit plant tho, it looks like a cactus folk.
I think it's because it says "creatures". Creature cards are not creatures when they're not on the battlefield.
Now it's going to be forever known in my head as "Sad Harvester", thanks 😂
@@KarmicMishapThis is correct. When creatures, enchantments, artifacts, etc. are referenced it is referencing permanents on the battlefield. When referring to a creature card not on the battlefield it will say creature card. From reanimate: "Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control."
The fact that Aven interrupter wasn’t on the list hurts my soul.
It was one of the honorable mentions that didn't quite make the cut, it's good though.
Terror of the Peaks might be good in the Vampire Push/Pull deck to double up on the game ending reanimation targets. Any combination of Terror and Vein Ripper is dealing a ton of damage.
Not sure who said it first but plot being faceup is literally a villian monologing his plan to the main characters.
The fact crim mixed up mindbreak and archive trap up means he hates mill 😅
Simulacrum Synthesizer can put 22 power on the battlefield on turn 2 in a modern affinity deck.
Lost Jitte is broken!!!
I expect it to be in half the decks within 3 months IN STANDARD!!
Happy to be quoted on this 😉
The Haughty Djinn deck does still exist, cavern is annoying but the Djinn Wins games by himself, and Nathan looks like it would be an amazing addition. Aggro is usually our worst matchup so a vigilant X/3 should be nice 🧞♂️
Lost Jitte untapping Gaeas Cradle, Nykthos, Coffers and Sanctum in Commander, along with any proliferate synergies you can include to abuse the untaps even more per turn, seems pretty good for me. In constructed formats I think it's harder to pull off but I can see some Tron or Nykthos shenanigans happening.
When will we get to see the Abzan modern decklist, I want to play it.
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As far as harvester of misery I believe it does count as a creature card in your hand and I think that's the reason because I know that the channel lands count as land abilities for getting the discount from that current cavern that's in standard and so if they're counted as a landability when your channeling them and surely a spell counts
Yeah, crim is smoking on Duelist of the Mind, I don't know for pioneer/modern, but Standard ? Of course it is good there
One aspect of the slickshot show off they didn’t talk about was on turn 2 or 3 when your opponent is holding up their counterspell you can just plot your creature and pass
I wish this was just the Seth show, I feel like he cares so much more and knows what he is talking about. Sorry Rich and Crim.
Seth tends to take the most reasoned "middle ground" positions on card evaluation, debates, etc., whereas Richard and especially Crim tend to voice stronger, more extreme opinions one way or the other. It's less not knowing what they're talking about and more them finding it more interesting to plant their flag on "This card sucks!" or "This card is going to break the format!" than to take the more conservative "I can see where this could be good but it'll come down to the meta so we'll just have to wait and see" position on every card.
(FWIW I myself also tend to prefer Seth's trying to see both sides to their more highly opinionated styles, but, y'know, I can see both sides =P)
I think if every discussion was “this card might be good, let’s wait and see” then it would get pretty boring fast. The middle ground is only good after you’ve had the hyperbole.
Mill might actually be really viable in Timeless and Surgical Extraction is going to be very very strong to hit the Show and Tell or Omniscience hits the grave.
Arena also has one of the best Reanimation targets with Perforator Crocodile that can entomb itself.
I fucking hate that thing. It's so damn strong.
@@Mythda I am very excited to reaninate it in Timeless. He’s going to chomp some Deathrites and bowmasters
In standard, I can't wait to put Smuggler's Surprise into Push/Pull - think that could be a great home for it outside of atraxa ramp
Harvester of misery isn't a creature while it isn't on the battlefield, its a creature CARD while its in your hand, and a creature spell while its on the stack. So at least to my knowledge, channel all you want with grand abolisher
snapcaster and BOB are world champion art cards as well.
17:13 Duelist of Mind feels more like a commander card. If I am drawing enough for duelist to beat someone to death I am winning already without it.
I really agree it looks like at best a commander card but I bet it will be good to broken it mirrors ledger shredder very much
Duelist is absolutely a constructed card. Baseline it’s a 2 mana 1/3 flying vigilance. It requires shockingly little to make it a 2/3 which looted. That’s just a solid value 2 drop. Your not planning to do some ridiculous combo kill thing where you get the card to one shot, but it’s a strong value 2 drop. And if you ever get a raffine trigger onto it it’s just insane. To be clear it’s a standard card, beyond that I don’t really think it cuts it, but card is good.
Big disagree. It's a 2 mana 1/3 flyer that looks whenever you commit a crime. Also it has vigilance so it blocks as a 0/3 flyer which is nice.
Harvester of misery curves out with Massacre Girl and will draw you SO many cards against boros
I agree with Crim that Duelist of the Mind is going to be good only in like the Memory decks. For some decks the Mastermind if better, for others Ledger Shedder is better. Duelist is simply occupying already heavily contested spot, while being not as versatile.
Satoru also works with stuff like Ichorid and reassembling skeleton. Also reanimation works.
not sure why no one notice that Jayce becomes a card draw engine, imagine plotting expressive interaction, Sauron ransoms and etc maybe its not that relevant but seems like a lot of cards
Harvester of mystery is better than stomp. If you attack with a 3/3 and get blocked by a 4/4. You can save your creature. With stomp you lose yours too.
Satoru doesn't immediately replace itself of you cast it. You have go spend no mana on the spell to get the trigger. Reanimated, blink, evoke, and ninja, stuff like that will trigger it but casting creature spells won't.
Easy; just plot it with Fblthp 😂
Unless Jace becomes a bomb, Blue feels bad in this set.
White has a great removal cards, black has search cards with creature bombs, green has tons of great cards for multiple archetypes and red has bomb spells
Smugglers going to be brutal with insidious roots.
Full crew episode. Richard is present. Thumbs up.
What about stone forge in timeless?
Today was a terribly overcast day, I was robbed of my Eclipse viewing by a bunch of stupid clouds.
Asshole clouds.
Id love to win game one with slickshot. Then sideboard out all the OTK stuff. Plot Slickshot and then just do some mid range strategy.
For bloomburrow Seth and tomer needs bunny ears (or some other small creature ears) for the reviews
crim's corgi's distracted me the whole video. what was this video about again?
how did crim and I end up playing basketball at the exact same time lmao
Re: what to do with Mana Drain mana, let me introduce you to a little mechanic called Companion
Is there any value to getting jace out early without casting it, like with restoration of eiganjo, squirming emergence, or sevinne's reclemation? Or even leyline of anticipation and caring it on an opponents turn?
I think lightning helix could still have it's time in a prowess jeskai deck
Pest Control flavor fail: it mentions varmints, but it kills neither of the varmint cards (sure, there's a card that makes varmint tokens, but one in three is not exactly a win under most circumstances).
Crim, where you hooping at in LA??
Shoutout to my girl Archangel of Thighs
Yeah she does have nice thighs 😂
Reanimate can see play in the necro decks especially if they reprint grief in mh3 and for now you can ran troll and be fine with it
Does Satoru count himself if Mana was spent to cast him?
the craziest part about Slickshot Show-Off is not the stats, it's the art: dude's throwing buttplugs at his opponents.. wtf?
Love the idea of Brian going hard in the paint lol
The conversation about mana drain is so silly... Crim is talking about the floor of the spell, and not the potential, really clear he hasn't experienced many games with the card. Obviously countering a 1 or 2 drop sucks, but countering a 3 drop, then on your turn 4 you cast teferi, plus, then you're holding up 4 mana for your opponent's turn is filthy... I could easily see mana drain getting restricted and I can't tell if Crim is just meming, cause he memes so often lol
"Crim hasn't experienced many games with Mana Drain" is an... uhm... let's say "interesting" theory.
@@LunaLasceria I know he's a big control player, but his opinions in this video would not make me think he has played the card much. You don't need to try very hard to construct a world where mana drain is too good for timeless, and Crim talking about countering 1 drops is so ridiculous that he must be joking.
How woulf Pest Control hit Urza Saga, wouldn't be pretected because its an Enchantment Land?
Satoru does not ETB draw a card. That's a huge misreading of the card. Satoru, if it enters, and no mana was spent, then it draws.
Honestly don't think Mana drain will be that good in Timeless. Counter spell is basically unplayable, and no current deck can take advantage of the mana it gives you.
Satoru doesn’t draw a card if it was cast when it enters right?
Can’t find the edit button. Assuming he was cast and mana was paid I wouldn’t think he draws a card
Mono red devotion with a nykthos and prophetic flamespeaker to play the top card of your deck for free
No spree wrath?
Seth you can't ramp into jace turn 3...
Honestly I don't think Djinn is gonna survive in a post-RIP format. Duelist of the Mind might have to pull the weight. A Flow of Knowledge does beef it up a ton in mono blue, but if Djinn and Terror are no longer reliable, idk what it's partner in crime would be.
In Hand - creature CARD
On the battlefield - creature
Grand abolisher does NOT lock the new worm, saddly
Timeless desperately needs T0 interaction. Mana drain is great but it’s just not cutting it.
4 plotted slickshots + a single grapeshot. hold up a wizards rebuke for settle the wreckage. Absolutely horrifying
wow, sick 6 card combo bro
MP4 best format
Where's SaffronY'allive
I'm wondering when they're going to add academy manufacturer to Arena.
Maybe they could add it with another jumpstart set. Although, jumpstart 2022 wasn't even added to arena, so idk
they don't want to pay for the server costs once it starts going brrr in every brawl game.
Seth has mispronounced the name so many times, people have completely lost track of what it actually is 😆 (Academy Manufactor)
Grand abolisher was trash the last time it was in standard.
They are wrong about the jitte. It has the same abilities but it untaps a land instead of gaining three life.
Not even close, and original Jitte gave 2 counters.
It will be sweet in Slicer. It can gain 4 counters per round, and untapping a land let's you keep slinging pumps at Slicer each person's combat
Literally none of the abilities are the same, and most aren't very comperable.
A +2/+2 pump versus a +1/+1 counter, eh probably a reasonable trade off. A creature can't block is so, so much worse than just killing creatures though; it has some different applications but an active U-Jitte just rules the battlefield and prevents so many creatures from even coming down because they'll just die. The land mode is an upgrade from life, probably in general and definitely in specific decks.
But, half the counters. That's huge. One Jitte trigger gives four extra damage or kills two X/1s (or one X/2). One Lost Jitte trigger gives... one more damage. Or stops a single creature from blocking for a turn. That's not nearly as good.
Must be aprils fools when mana drain is being trash talked 😂 one of the best non-free counter spells printed. It was fair back when mana burn was a thing
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Jitte the name of a type of weapon in real life it nothing special lol
Please. Its eidetic memory not edrick memory.
Theres 4 World chaamp cards: Javier, Paulo, Yuta, Nathan
yeah, they got there
There's more than that. They just aren't as recent:
1997: Olle Rade: Sylvan Safekeeper
1998: Darwin Kastle: Avalanche Riders
1999: Mike Long: Rootwater Thief
2000: Chris Pikula: Meddling Mage
2000: Jon Finkel: Shadowmage Infiltrator
2001: Kai Budde: Voidmage Prodigy
2002: Jens Thoren : Solemn Simulacrum
2004: Bob Maher: Dark Confidant
2005: Terry Soh: Rakdos Augermage
2006: Antoine Ruel: Ranger of Eos
2007: Thiago Chen: Snapcaster Mage
@@KarmicMishap none of those are world championship cards, those are invitational cards from the now defunct Invitational
How do I know this is a western podcast? No one is wearing cowboy hats
How did the new counterspell not make the list? It's a hard counter at 3, and it can replace itself for 3, as well as do both for 5. Its kind of an unholy marriage between Archmages Charm and Cryptic Command. May not be as powerfull as either, but, it has the qualities of both at a good rate for standard, so there is no doubt that control lists aren't running this.
1UU is sooo much easier to pay than UUU in any multi color deck, too.
@@LunaLasceria good point 👉
It's a hard counter at 3 that's worse than Archmage's Charm in modern. And in standard, it's just a hard counter at 3 and that's enough to choke it out.
What graveyard decks in standard? lol.
Ah yes Crime // Punishment, that card that sees almost no play lol.
The temur land deck?
@@TryhardSnake Temur control is one, but it is a pretty small amount of the meta.
Temur Lands, Insidious Roots Golgari Midrange, Enchantments, 5c Invasion plays some recursion, Superfriends Proliferate plays Tamiyo, Control plays Deluge, Dimir Toxic Proliferate has that recursive bat, I've seen RDW play Scamp, which has a death trigger, Mono-Black with Virtue of Persistence and recursive threats, Mill with Mindbreaker, my janky +1/+1 deck in Platinum with Recommission, Angels, the meme Sultai Llurgoyf deck, Conspiracy Unraveler Combo, Rakdos Reanimator with Breach the Multiverse, Dimir Control with Siphon Insight, Gruul Ramp has some graveyard shenanigans. There's just a bunch of incidental graveyard use in Standard, enough that graveyard hate is main-deck.
@@FearOgre Looking on Goldfish at meta percentages for the past 2 weeks, it’s at 11.1%. For reference, Boros Convoke is at 13.6% and Domain is at 9.1%. Doesn’t seem that small, unless you consider Domain and Boros relatively small too.
I think the presence is worth some sideboard slots and rest in peace is a great option
Jace Reawakened for Modern looks terrible the static effect along to me makes it unplayable. Modern is far too fast to have a card you can not play at all until your turn 4. This is Serra Avenger but at least Serra Avenger you can cheat into play with Aether Vial before turn 4. The idea that Cascade Decks like Living End would want to play this is even more laughable because it gets hit by Cascade. Can you imagine as a Living End player looking down lethal on the board to Cascade into Jace hearing sad trumpet noises "Wha, wha, wha, whaaaaaaa"
Richard made a website that is centered around metagames, doesn’t know shit about metagames himself. Lol
I think I've figured out what bothers me so much about Richard. He doesn't do well with NUANCE. So when someone says Harvester of Misery can be situationally really good, it matches up really well against certain decks that are prominent in the meta, it's flexible at different points of the game and allows for both early and late game plays. Richard responds with "would you play disfigure if it was legal? stomp is so much better". Stomp is better Richard, well done. Astute observation. This is not Stomp. This is also not Disfigure. Maybe this seems too slow or too situational to make a big impact in standard. Maybe it's relegated to the sideboard in black based midrange decks. But it's still potentially good there. Your avid opposition to cogent points is so frustrating to listen to. I turn off half of your podcasts because it's just so annoying to hear you be so absolutely closed minded to clearly hedged takes on cards. They're not saying Harvester of Misery is super good and will take over the meta, so stop acting like that's what they're saying. Try on nuance for a podcast or two. I think it will suit you well.
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Krim is so dumb. He’s obviously never heard of chalice of the void or Lorian revealed for colorless manna. Also, I could just play eight counter spells now..
You can’t even spell his four letter name correctly! 😂
@@ieatmygarden I was using text to speech on my phone. Also you can’t complain about my opinion/take so you have to complain about spelling errors?
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I swear I'm getting dejavu watching this
Thar Richard guy is so annoying. His takes are terrible... Why he is even there?
Because he owns MTG Goldfish genius.
@@ChrisMusson-kv8ph i see. For sure he is not there for his knowledge or personality.
I can’t stand Crim.
I feel like you could actually make a really nasty Modern deck with Rest In Peace in the main deck if you also play Bessech th Mirror. I dunno how it took this long for me to think about it. You could play Wasteland Scavenger in the deck too, yeah I'm thinking this might actually have legs.
Lost Jitte would be good if it also entered with counters. The fact you need to swing first to start getting value out of it makes it's play pattern kinda cringe.