According to me, PhDs are good for those who are passionate about their subjects, who have no responsibilities ( send money for parents back home, no cultural pressure to marry at a certain age, no financial pressure) on their shoulders. A degree exists to serve a purpose so it is.
what PhD for tech jobs are YOU going to do. you are indian. what research did YOU do in India. zero. don't be a joker you want to escape india and cheat
@@bigdave6952 nonsense PhD is about research and research is about failure failure failure failure failure and success If you enjoy failing and getting up again and failing and getting up again and failing and getting up again if you enjoy trial and error if you enjoy thinking if you enjoy thinking differently than anybody else if you enjoy going your own way down your own path separate from everybody else if you are American philosophy of research instead of Indian philosophy of being a follower then PhD is for you Indian mentality is to be a follower Indian mentality is not to do research If your goal is to escape India then focus on your goal PhD is not escaping India You can escape India in 2 years and get green card in 2 years if you are a nurse after you are a nurse you can go get a software developer job at Google If your goal is to escape India then focus on your goal if your goal is to do research you don't have to come to America
personal preferences, some people want to be a billionaire in their 30s, some want to be more genius and useful for the industry, so anybody wants let them be it @@NateFilopowski
Bro, a PhD doesn't just open up career opportunities in academia but also in the industry. For example let me talk about the semiconductor industry. The top end research that happen with semiconductor materials and devices in MNCs such as TSMC, Intel or Samsung make it mandatory to have a PhD degree to join their R&D teams. A masters degree won't take us that far because our core competency required to excel and match the rigor of the job can only be acquired through the PhD process because we master a subset of skills that is highly sought after by the industry.
From my point of view, as the research in llm and ai models are growing, there would be no need of coders or programmers . Because every company is in race to go at par with openai. We dont need any more software engineers, because chatgpt can do it in leesser period of time. Just wait for next 10 years, the person with phd will only be employed, because he will have access to lab.
What do you care about research growing in large language models llm or AI models? What do you care? Go research something that is interesting to you that you want to learn about that you want to try and experiment, research is 99% failure, are you comfortable with failing over and over and over again? Why do you care about what is growing? Care about what is interesting to you
@@NateFilopowski Maybe you should care more of doing some actual useful and intellectual thing with your time rather than ranting your frustration of faliure out on an even dumber guy's channel on TH-cam!
This is a short sighted mindset. Without PhD’s how will have future professors and researchers. Almost all modern progress is originally published as papers by professors and PhD students. Governments love PhD’s and make it easy for them to get green cards etc through EB1A
Bro I am Phd now work in semiconductor industry. I agree with most stuff you said. Let me share some of my points. You didnt even touch upon the hardest part of PhD which is publishing papers and going through a long peer review porocess. If you really dont have passion and motivation it will test your ability like anything during a PhD. This is what makes i PhD so hard. if you dont have passion you will give up at somepoint. This is again the fundamental reason why you should do PhD. Everything else including the engineering analysis will say dont do you a PhD.
Well, it depends a lot on the subject and your aspirations. It cannot be the same for everyone. If you want to take up a role like that of a Physicist or a Neuroscientist, Ph.D. is a must. For a tech job, Ph.D. is definitely not required.
Randomly stumbled across this video. Well, as someone with a PhD in Machine Learning, I do not agree with many things that are said in this video. "PhD doesn't add anything more than a masters" - I'm sorry, not true. In simple words, If you are seeing money/house as the ONLY barometer Don't do a PhD. If you are passionate about research, then do it. Yes, I gave years of my 20s for my PhD, I don't regret one bit. Now, the value I am getting and the way I am in my life is not measurable by any money! These apart, many research positions definitely require a PhD or Masters with lottt of publications (which is very very rare)
Yeah, I totally agree with @DivyaKulkarni and the other guest in the video, even though I've not done a PhD. Point is, the kind of intellectual capabilities you gain after doing a PhD (in any subject), you can do so many amazing things in life with that intellect. I've personally met people who've done PhD in the US, and I can definitely say that their ability to think through any topic is way deeper. Life's not all about cars, houses etc. At some point we get bored of this rat race.
I have a PhD from a renowned IIT. The PhD story in India is different. People do PhD for getting fellowship. once they get in PhD they can't get out and they do slavery for their professors for 5+ years (can go up to 6 to 7 years for IITs). Students in India take admission in PhD usually at the age of 25 or higher. they graduate around when they are 30+ years old. Private college pay meagerly to fresh PhDs (usually package is 10 to 15 LPA in best private universities). The competition for Regular Professor in govt universities is cut throat. You can't get in unless you have strong recommendations. What's left for PhD holders is PostDoc which they prefer for same reason they preferred PhD in the first place.
PhD students do a lot internships at top places like Meta, Google Brain and Microsoft research every summer and earn just as much as anyone in the industry. They don't have the burden of a frickin loan on their heads. I mean just look at the number of masters students without a job in 2024 just working as some goddamn volunteer to prolong their OPT. PhDs by the time they graduate would have spent 2-3 summers at top research facilities and 99% of the time have a return offer.
Got my PhD at 26 and got a 500k TC at a big tech with my EB1B green card at 29. You guys enjoyed renting a nissan sentra and posing at National Parks at 23 while I was slogging with my thesis at 25. Yes absolutely. Now I will chill with a permanent residency while I watch you guys get laid off and pack your bags and get GC after 130 years. Good Luck!
You misunderstood that SRK's quote , the actual quote is : " first become rich , then become a philosopher " , he was talking about people comment on money without being richer , he was talking about people comment on something that they never had or never done , which is similar to you commenting on PHDs without even get into those shoes . lol
I think you very well know about the H1B Greencard backlog. I know many Indians go for PhD because that gives them a chance to apply for GC in EB1B category, which is much better option than EB2/EB3.
@@GolbalEduVentures Be exceptional/world class at what you do - that opens up EB1 without a PhD and also have chances towards getting an O1 visa. The United States, especially the SF bay area, is a place for exceptional talent - it is no fun being average there.
I think that the whole premise of Let’s do a PhD because I’m not getting a job is heavily flawed. If you enter into a PhD program with this mentality, you will have an insanely bad time. The primary motivation to do a PhD should be the sheer joy of studying the subject we so dearly love and then try to make an effort to contribute to the already existing pool of knowledge. Also comparing salaries you get in an MNC and the PhD stipend is not justified. The very expectation that you’ll be payed like an MNC, stems from the fact that you entered into the PhD program because you didn’t get a job (which shouldn’t have been the primary motivation in the first place ). Also there are many jobs that exclusively require a PhD as a minimum eligibility criteria, however I do agree that they are way lesser in number.
Bro please ... This video by Harnoor seems highly biased, overlooking the benefits of pursuing a PhD over a Master's degree. If your aim is to start earning money earlier, consider doing Competitive Programming in India first, then transitioning to Software Development roles and eventually exploring research opportunities. PhD offers autonomy, ownership, networking opportunities, and the chance to publish regularly. It's not just about climbing a career ladder; it's a deeper dive into research and academia. Look beyond the prestige of universities and professors; focus on building relationships and inclusivity in the lab. PhD is about personal growth and living in the present, not just obtaining a degree. It's a reversible decision; you can still pursue other paths after completing your Master's. Not everyone has the privilege to take risks like Harnoor; for some, a PhD may be the best option for career advancement. In India, research funding and opportunities may be limited compared to countries like the US. Penetrating fields like Electrical and Computer Engineering (ECE) research can be challenging but rewarding. PhD programs are competitive and offer financial support, unlike many Master's programs. A PhD in ECE opens doors to stable career paths with iterative improvements driving technological breakthroughs. Passion isn't the only requirement for a PhD; a supportive environment and routine are crucial. Regrets about not pursuing a PhD are rare among those who have experienced its benefits firsthand. Videos like Harnoor's should incorporate diverse perspectives and research-backed evidence to provide balanced insights.Pursuing a PhD in the US offers the opportunity to impact research projects without financial burden. With research experience and publications, transitioning from Bachelor's to PhD is a confident decision.
If u are doing MBA after BCA or any other unrelated degree which can make u eligible for MBA of course...it is beneficial ig. But if you have done BBA then it's just a waste of time for me at least. Anyways, I am planning to quit my education after completing my Graduation. Hope I get a decent job. 😂
Actually, it depends. If you are getting an average job but top Ph.D. programs in the US then top PhD programs are better than average jobs. But jobs are better if you have job offers from top companies with great packages and you really don't have much inclination towards research at an early stage. The guy who has both can think about the suggestions given in this video. But PhD from a low-tier university under an advisor unknown in their field is not worth it.
Even a masters is not required for you to gain the skills to work in a tech sector. Kids who are citizens just do a bachelors and earn as much as you do after a masters. If people got STEM OPT after an Indian bachelors, do you think a single person will do their masters to acquire "skills"? Harnoor seems to be all about money money and savings savings.
@Harnoor, This is a totally biased video, please educate yourself before making any Ph.D. video. Have a lot of respect for you; don't post false data and devalue your image. Half-baked guys who studied in crap schools make such videos; I hope you don't belong to this category. Thanks!
I guess doing ph.D will get you on J1 for 5 years, It will give you stipend 60-70K and you can still do another job. Easier to publish papers/review as a ph.D student and next apply for EB1 or H1 without lottery.
You seriously don't get what a Ph.D. is all about. Please, stop making videos about stuff you've never lived through. Just because you might end up marrying an American girl with a potential marriage-based Green Card doesn't mean you understand what Indians go through. Getting a Ph.D. isn't just about money; it's about diving deep into research. And let's be real, if you're out there breaking laws and making illegal cash as an immigrant, you're not gonna get why dedication to research matters.
PhD does have some non-attractive cons, but it should be described by someone who completed his/her PhD :) Tech or in any science field, having a phd definitely allows you to start on a higher level in most cases.
I agree with whatever you said in general, but in the case of aerospace engineering simply a masters will not help me get a job in the US because I am an Indian citizen but with a PhD I can have a chance to work with NASA too if I show exceptional talent in a very niche domain which no one has. It's still a long shot but PhD does create chances.
I have done my bachelor's in electrical engineering, can I do master's in aerospace / astronautics and a PhD in space science? I'm super passionate about aerospace and dream of working at NASA. I've worked in IT as a software engineer, but I want a job focused on research, not coding. Can you give me some advice?
In the provided transcript, the argument against pursuing a Ph.D. and in favor of opting for a job after a master's degree is built on several key points: 1. **Long-Term Commitment and Potential Delays:** - The speaker emphasizes that a Ph.D. is a marathon, taking several years and potentially extending into one's late 20s or early 30s. - Points out potential delays in thesis approval and qualifying exams, which may extend the duration of the Ph.D. program. 2. **Toxic Comparisons and Lifestyle Differences:** - Raises awareness of the psychological impact of comparing oneself with friends who are well-settled in jobs, highlighting potential toxicity in such comparisons. - Notes that, despite being fully funded, Ph.D. salaries may not match those in the tech industry, impacting lifestyle choices. 3. **Financial Considerations:** - Compares the financial implications of a tech job and a Ph.D. over a four-year period, suggesting that the return on a Ph.D. may not be significantly higher. - Argues that savings and investments from a tech job may outpace the financial benefits of a Ph.D. 4. **Value of Ph.D. vs. Master's:** - Asserts that a Ph.D. does not add substantially more value than a master's degree, indicating that 90% of the skills needed for a Ph.D. are already gained during master's studies. - Challenges the notion that a Ph.D. provides a significantly higher salary or better career prospects. 5. **Advice for Limited U.S. Experience:** - Advises students to gain 1-2 years of work experience before considering a Ph.D., suggesting that this experience in the tech industry may reveal that a Ph.D. is not essential for research roles. 6. **Encouragement for Job Seekers:** - Encourages students to diligently pursue job opportunities before deciding on a Ph.D. - Argues that risking a Ph.D. without attempting a job may be a significant and potentially regrettable decision. 7. **Challenges of Quitting a Ph.D. for a Job:** - Acknowledges the difficulty in changing the mindset from a Ph.D. to a job-oriented approach. - Highlights that job offers for those with a Ph.D. may be fewer compared to those with a tech job. 8. **Choosing the Right Environment for a Ph.D.:** - Stresses the importance of having the right mentor, community, and friends during a Ph.D., suggesting that these factors significantly impact the success of the program. 9. **Final Thoughts:** - Concludes by suggesting that a Ph.D. may be suitable for those with a passion for research and teaching but recognizes the complexity of the decision. - Leaves room for potential responses from others in the field, indicating an open-ended perspective on the matter.
what a hypocrite! you yourself were against the "destroying career" on video titles which was posted by aevytv and you defended it by saying that you're still getting knowledge and you're getting jobs anywhere in the world because of USA degree and now you're using clickbait titles like these? disappointed in you, always counted on you for good content but now you're using clickbaity titles, please don't take this as hate, take it as constructive criticism and do better - your honest viewer
The way he is referring his own videos itself shows he don't have knowledge of proper research base. This video has rediculously failed to note tha fact that only Research leads to all the Tech....tech and tech jobs he claims all about in this.......😂
You shouldn't speak about something which you never experienced. You should make videos regarding the benefits of Tech jobs and why we should take it.... instead of making videos how phD can destroy your life. Every profession has it's own advantages and disadvantages. You shouldn't belittle a profession to make another look better.
That is unequivocally untrue - a PhD is a training to do original research. While there are some excellent minds who can conduct research without a PhD degree, it is so so so so rare that that population is statistically insignificant in this regard.
I have done my bachelor's in electrical engineering, can I do master's in aerospace / astronautics and a PhD in space science? I'm super passionate about aerospace and dream of working at NASA. I've worked in IT as a software engineer, but I want a job focused on research, not coding. Can you give me some advice?
I think if you would like to stay in space science, both India and the US are great options for a PhD. India is ofcourse super competitive in which case you could consider US.
@@W3n0q2p-bs7dg "passionate" is a subjective term :). While I don't want to downplay your enthusiasm, but I don't know of a single person who had a successful research work with "self-funding".
bro ,I am Indian techie from bengalore who is working in web development for almost 2 year, I would love to go to phd from a top research institute to get away from toxic corporate
Kasam KHUDA ki..... mein 1 week sy yahi soch raha tha , ky mein Phd karoun ya nahi bcz Age bohat ziada ho jai giii almost 35 years old........ and suddenly your video popped up on my feed hehehehe XD lots of love from PAKISTAN 💚💚💚💚
Harnoor bhai not compromising on the quality of the content as always. Thank you so much bhai. Sabse last wali line acchi lagi. Keep posting more and more. Thank You
Harnur sahab. Aap kya bol rahe ho. In Europe people get paid 40lakhs/year for doing PhD . Ye bolna ki PhD is waste of money is so stupid. Don’t spend money on PhD ,take it up as a job in Europe (Germany,Luxembourg,Norway,Finland and Sweden) have 0 fees for PhD . Do your research harnur
The Real Question is : Why don't people working full-time in industry teach as well? Like I would want to get taught from a technical architect. Why is this teaching route only made mainstream for Phd folks????????
If you are looking at R1 universities as a tenure track faculty, their main goal is research - pushing the state-of-the-art! Teaching is secondary, and teaching colleges do hire candidates with a masters degree. Also, there are quite a few adjunct positions at top universities which hire industry professionals part-time. This is mainly to fill a gap in their department with the expertise that the adjunct faculty brings in.
What if someone is interested in Research Scientist/Engineer roles at places like DeepMind, FAIR, Brain, OpenAI etc? Is I possible with just a Master's degree?
Let me clear one thing. Not PhD students, each and every person in this world compare their lifestyle with others. So please do full research then only share such kind of information. Those who are really passionate about research will go for PhD . There is no point comparing tech phd😂😂😂
“Research koi bhi kar sakta hai”….what a WHOLE LOAD OF CRAP this video is. Yes, some points are true that it takes time to get stability. Options less as a PhD? Really. Do you have the option for an academic job with a cap exempt H1b? What would you have done if your H1b were not picked? And, hey, don’t forget, PhD eduction is free in the US and you earn and save (even though it is very less) during your PhD. You don’t have to take millions of dollars loan to get a PhD. Anyway, the best reason not to do a PhD is when you are passionate about research. And, trust me, koi bhi waise research nahi kar sakta. Get a PhD and then comment on what it is like to be a PhD. Also, I am an ex-techie and now a Biochemist. Would not want a techie job even if I am offered a million dollars a month. Everybody does not want to be a techie, just so you know! Thanks. :)
Hey Harnoor, what about direct PhD after doing bachelors with honours and research, I'm currently a bsc data analytics student, do you think that doing a direct phd in computer science will be worth it. Btw the comments are describing that phd is worth it even of it takes a longer period of time.
Hi, i am doing phd from iit delhi and i am getting serious doubt about continuing as u said it is a huge commitment. And as far as i heard, its very difficult to get academic after phd as well, can you please guide me ?
ow really, then what about larry page. sergey brian, and what about the engineers, without engineers google is nothing,, mr pichai is nothing@@mohammedhassain434
hi, @Harnoor singh what is your opinion about computer vision field and its job sector, because i do have interest in it and learning skills regarding it. My peers say it is still in research stage and it is true. You can give a good insight about it?
I just got my offer letter for the MEM program at Northeastern University fall 24 intake. I am confused if i should attend this college and how's the ROI and placement.
Yes! I have been around too many fully funded students so calculating return on investment is very important depends on how much better and affordable opportunities you have
It's similar to "I never went to FAANG but believe me FAANG sucks, just go for a startup or Microsoft will be easy and get a better salary" or "I never went to Ivy league or a top school, but believe me Ivy league is just going to increase your student loan" PhD is a path for the most passionate people, it has some prestige to it rather than doing MS from a below 100 university. Not everyone measures their career by only the amount of money they earn. The title is just cluelessly stupid and clickbaity. It's audacious to spread PhD really destroys someone's careers just after getting some below average MS. You will not be able to apply to way many jobs even in tech industry alone without a PhD like Research Engineer, Research Scientist, etc.
I have done my bachelor's in electrical engineering, can I do master's in aerospace / astronautics and a PhD in space science? I'm super passionate about aerospace and dream of working at NASA. I've worked in IT as a software engineer, but I want a job focused on research, not coding. Can you give me some advice?
According to me, PhDs are good for those who are passionate about their subjects, who have no responsibilities ( send money for parents back home, no cultural pressure to marry at a certain age, no financial pressure) on their shoulders. A degree exists to serve a purpose so it is.
That means phd is good for girls as compared to guys
yet more guys have phds 💀
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Yes true .Very true
Simply don't do it😅
PhD is not just about money its creating new knowledge for tech jobs. People do not qualify to talk about PhD if they don't have one.
almost 99.99% phd papera are trash .
what PhD for tech jobs are YOU going to do. you are indian. what research did YOU do in India. zero. don't be a joker you want to escape india and cheat
Absolutely, I was just about to say that.
@@bigdave6952 nonsense PhD is about research and research is about failure failure failure failure failure and success
If you enjoy failing and getting up again and failing and getting up again and failing and getting up again if you enjoy trial and error if you enjoy thinking if you enjoy thinking differently than anybody else if you enjoy going your own way down your own path separate from everybody else if you are American philosophy of research instead of Indian philosophy of being a follower then PhD is for you
Indian mentality is to be a follower Indian mentality is not to do research
If your goal is to escape India then focus on your goal
PhD is not escaping India
You can escape India in 2 years and get green card in 2 years if you are a nurse after you are a nurse you can go get a software developer job at Google
If your goal is to escape India then focus on your goal if your goal is to do research you don't have to come to America
personal preferences, some people want to be a billionaire in their 30s, some want to be more genius and useful for the industry, so anybody wants let them be it
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Bro, a PhD doesn't just open up career opportunities in academia but also in the industry. For example let me talk about the semiconductor industry. The top end research that happen with semiconductor materials and devices in MNCs such as TSMC, Intel or Samsung make it mandatory to have a PhD degree to join their R&D teams. A masters degree won't take us that far because our core competency required to excel and match the rigor of the job can only be acquired through the PhD process because we master a subset of skills that is highly sought after by the industry.
Hi bro..i am an undergrad planning to enter the fabrication industry. Would you like to connect with me?
you dont need phd to enter . simple btech or msc is enough if anyone has the passion to learn .
True..
I want to do phd on sc
most PhD never use their PhD never get a job using their PhD never get a teaching job requiring PhD never continue research post doc
This video is like reviewing the taste of Biryani just by the look of it. You are completely clueless about what a PhD is.
Never take suggestions from people on something who have not done that.
Exactly
From my point of view, as the research in llm and ai models are growing, there would be no need of coders or programmers . Because every company is in race to go at par with openai. We dont need any more software engineers, because chatgpt can do it in leesser period of time. Just wait for next 10 years, the person with phd will only be employed, because he will have access to lab.
What do you care about research growing in large language models llm or AI models? What do you care? Go research something that is interesting to you that you want to learn about that you want to try and experiment, research is 99% failure, are you comfortable with failing over and over and over again? Why do you care about what is growing? Care about what is interesting to you
@@NateFilopowski Maybe you should care more of doing some actual useful and intellectual thing with your time rather than ranting your frustration of faliure out on an even dumber guy's channel on TH-cam!
This is a short sighted mindset. Without PhD’s how will have future professors and researchers. Almost all modern progress is originally published as papers by professors and PhD students. Governments love PhD’s and make it easy for them to get green cards etc through EB1A
Bro I am Phd now work in semiconductor industry. I agree with most stuff you said. Let me share some of my points. You didnt even touch upon the hardest part of PhD which is publishing papers and going through a long peer review porocess. If you really dont have passion and motivation it will test your ability like anything during a PhD. This is what makes i PhD so hard. if you dont have passion you will give up at somepoint. This is again the fundamental reason why you should do PhD. Everything else including the engineering analysis will say dont do you a PhD.
Well said
Which country?
Well, it depends a lot on the subject and your aspirations. It cannot be the same for everyone. If you want to take up a role like that of a Physicist or a Neuroscientist, Ph.D. is a must. For a tech job, Ph.D. is definitely not required.
Randomly stumbled across this video. Well, as someone with a PhD in Machine Learning, I do not agree with many things that are said in this video. "PhD doesn't add anything more than a masters" - I'm sorry, not true. In simple words, If you are seeing money/house as the ONLY barometer Don't do a PhD. If you are passionate about research, then do it. Yes, I gave years of my 20s for my PhD, I don't regret one bit. Now, the value I am getting and the way I am in my life is not measurable by any money!
These apart, many research positions definitely require a PhD or Masters with lottt of publications (which is very very rare)
Yeah, I totally agree with @DivyaKulkarni and the other guest in the video, even though I've not done a PhD.
Point is, the kind of intellectual capabilities you gain after doing a PhD (in any subject), you can do so many amazing things in life with that intellect.
I've personally met people who've done PhD in the US, and I can definitely say that their ability to think through any topic is way deeper.
Life's not all about cars, houses etc. At some point we get bored of this rat race.
hey divya how can i connec with you since am interested in pursuing Phd in ML
I have a PhD from a renowned IIT. The PhD story in India is different. People do PhD for getting fellowship. once they get in PhD they can't get out and they do slavery for their professors for 5+ years (can go up to 6 to 7 years for IITs).
Students in India take admission in PhD usually at the age of 25 or higher. they graduate around when they are 30+ years old.
Private college pay meagerly to fresh PhDs (usually package is 10 to 15 LPA in best private universities). The competition for Regular Professor in govt universities is cut throat. You can't get in unless you have strong recommendations.
What's left for PhD holders is PostDoc which they prefer for same reason they preferred PhD in the first place.
Which iit? Bro is phd good in chem
PhD students do a lot internships at top places like Meta, Google Brain and Microsoft research every summer and earn just as much as anyone in the industry. They don't have the burden of a frickin loan on their heads. I mean just look at the number of masters students without a job in 2024 just working as some goddamn volunteer to prolong their OPT.
PhDs by the time they graduate would have spent 2-3 summers at top research facilities and 99% of the time have a return offer.
Got my PhD at 26 and got a 500k TC at a big tech with my EB1B green card at 29. You guys enjoyed renting a nissan sentra and posing at National Parks at 23 while I was slogging with my thesis at 25. Yes absolutely.
Now I will chill with a permanent residency while I watch you guys get laid off and pack your bags and get GC after 130 years. Good Luck!
hey, you have a nice life, what did you do in highschool?
played video games@@gamingzeraora443
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is that really great???
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You misunderstood that SRK's quote , the actual quote is : " first become rich , then become a philosopher " , he was talking about people comment on money without being richer , he was talking about people comment on something that they never had or never done , which is similar to you commenting on PHDs without even get into those shoes . lol
I think you very well know about the H1B Greencard backlog. I know many Indians go for PhD because that gives them a chance to apply for GC in EB1B category, which is much better option than EB2/EB3.
There is no guarantee with PhD = Green Card unless you have quality and quantity of publications
@@HarnoorSinghOfficialthan how to get a green card for Indians what the best way except marriage
@@GolbalEduVentures You can't unless you are ready to invest 500k and employ 10 americans then yes
@@GolbalEduVentures Be exceptional/world class at what you do - that opens up EB1 without a PhD and also have chances towards getting an O1 visa. The United States, especially the SF bay area, is a place for exceptional talent - it is no fun being average there.
I think that the whole premise of Let’s do a PhD because I’m not getting a job is heavily flawed. If you enter into a PhD program with this mentality, you will have an insanely bad time. The primary motivation to do a PhD should be the sheer joy of studying the subject we so dearly love and then try to make an effort to contribute to the already existing pool of knowledge. Also comparing salaries you get in an MNC and the PhD stipend is not justified. The very expectation that you’ll be payed like an MNC, stems from the fact that you entered into the PhD program because you didn’t get a job (which shouldn’t have been the primary motivation in the first place ). Also there are many jobs that exclusively require a PhD as a minimum eligibility criteria, however I do agree that they are way lesser in number.
I totally agree with you… if u r not interested in research then don’t do phd
Bro please ... This video by Harnoor seems highly biased, overlooking the benefits of pursuing a PhD over a Master's degree.
If your aim is to start earning money earlier, consider doing Competitive Programming in India first, then transitioning to Software Development roles and eventually exploring research opportunities. PhD offers autonomy, ownership, networking opportunities, and the chance to publish regularly. It's not just about climbing a career ladder; it's a deeper dive into research and academia. Look beyond the prestige of universities and professors; focus on building relationships and inclusivity in the lab. PhD is about personal growth and living in the present, not just obtaining a degree. It's a reversible decision; you can still pursue other paths after completing your Master's. Not everyone has the privilege to take risks like Harnoor; for some, a PhD may be the best option for career advancement. In India, research funding and opportunities may be limited compared to countries like the US. Penetrating fields like Electrical and Computer Engineering (ECE) research can be challenging but rewarding. PhD programs are competitive and offer financial support, unlike many Master's programs. A PhD in ECE opens doors to stable career paths with iterative improvements driving technological breakthroughs. Passion isn't the only requirement for a PhD; a supportive environment and routine are crucial. Regrets about not pursuing a PhD are rare among those who have experienced its benefits firsthand.
Videos like Harnoor's should incorporate diverse perspectives and research-backed evidence to provide balanced insights.Pursuing a PhD in the US offers the opportunity to impact research projects without financial burden. With research experience and publications, transitioning from Bachelor's to PhD is a confident decision.
This guy is too small to understand the value of PhD
Iska layoff hoga to pta chalega isko
Most hedge portfolio fund managers r phd. holder
People also say about MBA, it doesn't add value, but it opens new opportunities for u
I agree, all I’m saying don’t commit to PhD without trying jobs
If u are doing MBA after BCA or any other unrelated degree which can make u eligible for MBA of course...it is beneficial ig. But if you have done BBA then it's just a waste of time for me at least. Anyways, I am planning to quit my education after completing my Graduation. Hope I get a decent job. 😂
Actually, it depends. If you are getting an average job but top Ph.D. programs in the US then top PhD programs are better than average jobs. But jobs are better if you have job offers from top companies with great packages and you really don't have much inclination towards research at an early stage. The guy who has both can think about the suggestions given in this video. But PhD from a low-tier university under an advisor unknown in their field is not worth it.
Yes I still believe PhD should be done by trying what can by experiencing the other side too that’s full time job
Even a masters is not required for you to gain the skills to work in a tech sector. Kids who are citizens just do a bachelors and earn as much as you do after a masters.
If people got STEM OPT after an Indian bachelors, do you think a single person will do their masters to acquire "skills"? Harnoor seems to be all about money money and savings savings.
Many Indians go to the US for money. Why would they pay an exorbitant fee for Masters in the US and come back to India.
@Harnoor, This is a totally biased video, please educate yourself before making any Ph.D. video. Have a lot of respect for you; don't post false data and devalue your image. Half-baked guys who studied in crap schools make such videos; I hope you don't belong to this category. Thanks!
PhD is 90% failure 10% success. if you like to work hard and fail up to 99% of the time then do PhD. It's called
research it's not called success
Have been following you since my JEE days, 2018, 2019 se. It is so nice to see you grow so much bhai. Thank you so much
Can I know ehich clg are u in ?
Now you are in ?
I agree with all your Points 👍
I guess doing ph.D will get you on J1 for 5 years, It will give you stipend 60-70K and you can still do another job. Easier to publish papers/review as a ph.D student and next apply for EB1 or H1 without lottery.
so you dont want to do reseach you want to beg for green card and you want to escape india
You seriously don't get what a Ph.D. is all about. Please, stop making videos about stuff you've never lived through. Just because you might end up marrying an American girl with a potential marriage-based Green Card doesn't mean you understand what Indians go through. Getting a Ph.D. isn't just about money; it's about diving deep into research. And let's be real, if you're out there breaking laws and making illegal cash as an immigrant, you're not gonna get why dedication to research matters.
PhD does have some non-attractive cons, but it should be described by someone who completed his/her PhD :) Tech or in any science field, having a phd definitely allows you to start on a higher level in most cases.
I am doing PhD, and yeah you're right for people who feel the same.
With this thinking, no one should become a doctor ever.
Albert Einstein said, "I fear the day when the technology overlaps with our humanity. The world will only have a generation of idiots."
Self learning is better than PHd
I agree with whatever you said in general, but in the case of aerospace engineering simply a masters will not help me get a job in the US because I am an Indian citizen but with a PhD I can have a chance to work with NASA too if I show exceptional talent in a very niche domain which no one has.
It's still a long shot but PhD does create chances.
you are indian you cannot work for nasa
you are indian most phd reseach for aerospae engineering you can't do in usa. you are russian ally. you can do your research in russia
Indians can work on highly classified projects during PhD if they show exceptional talent
I have done my bachelor's in electrical engineering, can I do master's in aerospace / astronautics and a PhD in space science? I'm super passionate about aerospace and dream of working at NASA. I've worked in IT as a software engineer, but I want a job focused on research, not coding. Can you give me some advice?
@@sbnerji12555 for that you have to work on controls. If you want to work on space sciences. The domain will be flight dynamics.
Wrong opinion regarding PhD.
In the provided transcript, the argument against pursuing a Ph.D. and in favor of opting for a job after a master's degree is built on several key points:
1. **Long-Term Commitment and Potential Delays:**
- The speaker emphasizes that a Ph.D. is a marathon, taking several years and potentially extending into one's late 20s or early 30s.
- Points out potential delays in thesis approval and qualifying exams, which may extend the duration of the Ph.D. program.
2. **Toxic Comparisons and Lifestyle Differences:**
- Raises awareness of the psychological impact of comparing oneself with friends who are well-settled in jobs, highlighting potential toxicity in such comparisons.
- Notes that, despite being fully funded, Ph.D. salaries may not match those in the tech industry, impacting lifestyle choices.
3. **Financial Considerations:**
- Compares the financial implications of a tech job and a Ph.D. over a four-year period, suggesting that the return on a Ph.D. may not be significantly higher.
- Argues that savings and investments from a tech job may outpace the financial benefits of a Ph.D.
4. **Value of Ph.D. vs. Master's:**
- Asserts that a Ph.D. does not add substantially more value than a master's degree, indicating that 90% of the skills needed for a Ph.D. are already gained during master's studies.
- Challenges the notion that a Ph.D. provides a significantly higher salary or better career prospects.
5. **Advice for Limited U.S. Experience:**
- Advises students to gain 1-2 years of work experience before considering a Ph.D., suggesting that this experience in the tech industry may reveal that a Ph.D. is not essential for research roles.
6. **Encouragement for Job Seekers:**
- Encourages students to diligently pursue job opportunities before deciding on a Ph.D.
- Argues that risking a Ph.D. without attempting a job may be a significant and potentially regrettable decision.
7. **Challenges of Quitting a Ph.D. for a Job:**
- Acknowledges the difficulty in changing the mindset from a Ph.D. to a job-oriented approach.
- Highlights that job offers for those with a Ph.D. may be fewer compared to those with a tech job.
8. **Choosing the Right Environment for a Ph.D.:**
- Stresses the importance of having the right mentor, community, and friends during a Ph.D., suggesting that these factors significantly impact the success of the program.
9. **Final Thoughts:**
- Concludes by suggesting that a Ph.D. may be suitable for those with a passion for research and teaching but recognizes the complexity of the decision.
- Leaves room for potential responses from others in the field, indicating an open-ended perspective on the matter.
If you haven't done PhD then you shouldn't commentary on it
what a hypocrite! you yourself were against the "destroying career" on video titles which was posted by aevytv and you defended it by saying that you're still getting knowledge and you're getting jobs anywhere in the world because of USA degree and now you're using clickbait titles like these? disappointed in you, always counted on you for good content but now you're using clickbaity titles, please don't take this as hate, take it as constructive criticism and do better - your honest viewer
See Harnoor if you are doing job or if you are doing phd from top universities both have good career option if you give your best effort.
The way he is referring his own videos itself shows he don't have knowledge of proper research base. This video has rediculously failed to note tha fact that only Research leads to all the Tech....tech and tech jobs he claims all about in this.......😂
Thank you singh.
Dude quotes SRK over an acclaimed academic and deliberates about PhD!🤥
You shouldn't speak about something which you never experienced. You should make videos regarding the benefits of Tech jobs and why we should take it.... instead of making videos how phD can destroy your life. Every profession has it's own advantages and disadvantages. You shouldn't belittle a profession to make another look better.
You've got an incorrect perspective, I do not agree, Phd has a lot of opportunites
Lot of opportunities learn but not to earn ….and many Indian have to send money home
You said that the research is possible without a PhD. Would be willing to explain how is that possible or perhaps make a video about it?
That is unequivocally untrue - a PhD is a training to do original research. While there are some excellent minds who can conduct research without a PhD degree, it is so so so so rare that that population is statistically insignificant in this regard.
Yes I gave up after lots of thought
phd is basically for them who are passionate for being a professor of a school or colleges
Is it good in bsc chem. I have responsibities in my home
let's summarize :-- bhai ka khne ka mtlb ye h ki sirf isliye Phd nhi krni h ki job nhi mil rhi to phd kr lete hn.
Need it in English
I am a PhD and whatever he said in this video has another name : delusion.
I have done my bachelor's in electrical engineering, can I do master's in aerospace / astronautics and a PhD in space science? I'm super passionate about aerospace and dream of working at NASA. I've worked in IT as a software engineer, but I want a job focused on research, not coding. Can you give me some advice?
I think if you would like to stay in space science, both India and the US are great options for a PhD. India is ofcourse super competitive in which case you could consider US.
@@W3n0q2p-bs7dg "passionate" is a subjective term :). While I don't want to downplay your enthusiasm, but I don't know of a single person who had a successful research work with "self-funding".
Here isanother very important thing to do at high school -- live a life :). Travel, make friends, you will miss all that later.
You tricked me with this video. That’s not you on the thumbnail.
Plain speaking! In India we see recycled garbage in terms of PhD
bro ,I am Indian techie from bengalore who is working in web development for almost 2 year, I would love to go to phd from a top research institute to get away from toxic corporate
Kasam KHUDA ki..... mein 1 week sy yahi soch raha tha , ky mein Phd karoun ya nahi bcz Age bohat ziada ho jai giii almost 35 years old........ and suddenly your video popped up on my feed hehehehe XD lots of love from PAKISTAN 💚💚💚💚
usa mein jobs itna asan koun nahi hai bhai ??? ye apko kisny bola ??
@@Rain-xs7gp
usa mein job itna asan nahi hai , ye kisny bola apko ?? any source ?
@@Rain-xs7gp
Harnoor bhai not compromising on the quality of the content as always. Thank you so much bhai. Sabse last wali line acchi lagi. Keep posting more and more. Thank You
Phd needs passion not comparison bro..
Harnur sahab.
Aap kya bol rahe ho.
In Europe people get paid 40lakhs/year for doing PhD .
Ye bolna ki PhD is waste of money is so stupid.
Don’t spend money on PhD ,take it up as a job in Europe (Germany,Luxembourg,Norway,Finland and Sweden) have 0 fees for PhD .
Do your research harnur
Look at India
The Real Question is : Why don't people working full-time in industry teach as well? Like I would want to get taught from a technical architect. Why is this teaching route only made mainstream for Phd folks????????
If you are looking at R1 universities as a tenure track faculty, their main goal is research - pushing the state-of-the-art! Teaching is secondary, and teaching colleges do hire candidates with a masters degree. Also, there are quite a few adjunct positions at top universities which hire industry professionals part-time. This is mainly to fill a gap in their department with the expertise that the adjunct faculty brings in.
What if someone is interested in Research Scientist/Engineer roles at places like DeepMind, FAIR, Brain, OpenAI etc?
Is I possible with just a Master's degree?
Best video to demotivation
You are speaking all these because you have no idea what PhD is all about.
Love from India bhaiya❤❤
Bhai Tera bohot karibi PhD holder wala dost desi American professor teko hi roast maar rha iss video ke liye😂😂😂
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Why?
Totally disagree, if you want cutting edge R&D job, PhD is a must, even in Data Science also, I encourage others to pursue PhD
wanna be a CTO not a researcher
you can open your startup after 12th, become CEO/CTO then @@LabibIbnMuzahid
Let me clear one thing. Not PhD students, each and every person in this world compare their lifestyle with others. So please do full research then only share such kind of information. Those who are really passionate about research will go for PhD . There is no point comparing tech phd😂😂😂
Stability der aayegi se kya matlb? Der aaye magar durust aaye. Long term me there will be big layoffs because only researchers at lab will get job.
If as an indian I’m not interested in PhD and only interested in green card and good tech jobs what should I do
Marry an American maybe
Hii am a big fan harnoor bhai , i am watching your vids since 2021
Make the PhD Admission 0 in any country 😊. Then thing will be better.
plz correct bro education destroys life
PHD are for those, who failed in their masters, and masters are for those who failed in their bachelors.
Yeah, Dr. Homi Bhabha failed at his masters. Go back to school Mr. Illiterate das.
nice vide harnoor
“Research koi bhi kar sakta hai”….what a WHOLE LOAD OF CRAP this video is. Yes, some points are true that it takes time to get stability. Options less as a PhD? Really. Do you have the option for an academic job with a cap exempt H1b? What would you have done if your H1b were not picked? And, hey, don’t forget, PhD eduction is free in the US and you earn and save (even though it is very less) during your PhD. You don’t have to take millions of dollars loan to get a PhD. Anyway, the best reason not to do a PhD is when you are passionate about research. And, trust me, koi bhi waise research nahi kar sakta. Get a PhD and then comment on what it is like to be a PhD. Also, I am an ex-techie and now a Biochemist. Would not want a techie job even if I am offered a million dollars a month. Everybody does not want to be a techie, just so you know! Thanks. :)
Hey Harnoor, what about direct PhD after doing bachelors with honours and research, I'm currently a bsc data analytics student, do you think that doing a direct phd in computer science will be worth it. Btw the comments are describing that phd is worth it even of it takes a longer period of time.
Lol a youtuber after doing a self-funded MBA thinking as if he became Vidyasagar!
I am 35 and I am coming USA for master..😂 really it's true.
Hi, i am doing phd from iit delhi and i am getting serious doubt about continuing as u said it is a huge commitment. And as far as i heard, its very difficult to get academic after phd as well, can you please guide me ?
Harnoor, i think you are wrong in this video bro
Bro..i regularly watch your video but...
This video is disappointing
Bro.....Phd has enormous opportunities than masters....just do R and D with Mr.Sundar pichai.😊
shundar pichai doesn't work in the R & D center
Mr.Sundar pichai =Google
ow really, then what about larry page. sergey brian, and what about the engineers, without engineers google is nothing,, mr pichai is nothing@@mohammedhassain434
hey i am intrested persuing phd in the USA but I'm not interested in academia . will I get jobs in usa in tech companies ?
Oh boy don't even think about Phd if u are not interested in academia
This is hilarious, and paints only one side of the picture. Largely biased!!
hi, @Harnoor singh what is your opinion about computer vision field and its job sector, because i do have interest in it and learning skills regarding it. My peers say it is still in research stage and it is true. You can give a good insight about it?
you can learn computer vision from india. not a problem.
Can we get into industry job placements after doing PhD
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your AIEEE/IIT Rank in India ?
I'm 32. Am I too late for phd ?
Hello Bhaiya, Really need your assistance ahead!
Not in india
Hello veer g afer bca in India witch study is good master in USA
PhD is a lifestyle.. paisa kitna kamayega be
where are the documents link
sir
I just got my offer letter for the MEM program at Northeastern University fall 24 intake. I am confused if i should attend this college and how's the ROI and placement.
Yes! I have been around too many fully funded students so calculating return on investment is very important depends on how much better and affordable opportunities you have
I also got admit from ASU for Fall 2024, but l'm a bit confused about whether to attend ASU and move to the USA, given the current job crisis.
Hello. Is phd fully funded in usa?
Yes 95% plus cases
@@HarnoorSinghOfficial Thanks bro. Will ask you more questions if needed
@@mirmohsanalitalpur5884what do you do for living?
you got to write a proposal for grant money. and then they own your research
you can start your research in india before usa
Bhai tujhe chorke baki sabki life jhand hai. Khush?
🤏👎
Hi Harnoor Bhaiya
Hi
Hlo
Phuddu singh the next job you will get is collecting and recycling womens used sanitary pads!
It's similar to "I never went to FAANG but believe me FAANG sucks, just go for a startup or Microsoft will be easy and get a better salary" or "I never went to Ivy league or a top school, but believe me Ivy league is just going to increase your student loan" PhD is a path for the most passionate people, it has some prestige to it rather than doing MS from a below 100 university. Not everyone measures their career by only the amount of money they earn. The title is just cluelessly stupid and clickbaity. It's audacious to spread PhD really destroys someone's careers just after getting some below average MS. You will not be able to apply to way many jobs even in tech industry alone without a PhD like Research Engineer, Research Scientist, etc.
I have done my bachelor's in electrical engineering, can I do master's in aerospace / astronautics and a PhD in space science? I'm super passionate about aerospace and dream of working at NASA. I've worked in IT as a software engineer, but I want a job focused on research, not coding. Can you give me some advice?