Zhiyun Smooth 4 - How To (Manually) Do the Dolly Zoom/Vertigo Effect
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- A quick overview of one of the more unique features on the new Zhiyun Smooth 4 Smartphone Gimbal, the ability to create a dolly zoom or "vertigo" effect in camera!
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Can you arrived to make a dolly effet with other smartphone ? I have a huawei p30 pro. Thx for your answerd
I think if you can master this technique it's just much better accurate than the Vertigo mode. Then it's a good tutorial to master that. Also this handling technique looks appropriate for this shot.
I lost my Left-Side Focus / Zoom Wheel
Where can I buy replacement one?
Good morning guys, does anyone know why when I scroll the zoom wheel it goes very fast? No the vertigo. Everything that does it very abruptly and is not visible.
Thank you very much.
thank you for this video..I’m going to try this out on my new zhiyun 5S
so far the best explanation as to how vertigo works !! Prior to this video all other videos I have watched so far did not effectively describe the technique.
Awesome, glad to hear that! :) Thank you!
Zy play app don't work well with Samsung s9+ no 4k recording! Only 720p
Is it not possible to use this gimbal with an s9+ and just use the native camera app instead of the ZY Play app?
I'm curious if it would be hard to implement a ghost image when you hit record that way you can see the original size throughout the duration of the shot.
Just got a smooth4 & I already love it!!
I'm not even trying to do the vertigo effect, I'm simply trying to zoom in on something and keep it in focus. For example, a tree, and then zooming in on a bird on a branch. When I zoom in, the bird is not in focus. Any way to focus while you zoom in? I've searched the internet and haven't found the answer. Thanks!
It might depend on the particular phone and how it handles autofocus. I’ve never really thought about it much with an iPhone although I believe that you can tap to focus
Very good nice I like it thank you for that
hello.. please how can rotate a shoot in 360
Will this work without zy play app? Or must I use the app in order for the wheel to work? I'm using android, which I believe is even worse than ios
Does work in the zhyiun smooth q3? Vertigo shot and dolly shot.
Dude, does it work? Did you test it?
Great explanation
I have a smooth 4 but the app available in app store is only smooth q. Can i still use the app?
It's been a while since I made this but I believe at the time I was either using the "ZhiyunAssistant" app or "ZY Play" ...those might be the ones you need
I think this clip is more easier to understand than the last one of your sir
bad device for all android phones.. no 60 fps at 1080 works on q3 and q4.. it dont work with s6,s7,s8,s9 sony xz1, xz2
Agreed, the android app is pretty useless at this time unfortunately :( The FV Share app from Freevision (with their Vilta M) has been the best I've tested on Android so far
Scott Dumas zhiyun say there dont Has permission from Samsung and others.. 3rd party app problem.. There dont get fix.. Never
Is it not possible to use this gimbal with an s9+ and just use the native camera app instead of the ZY Play app?
you can but lose all the extra features... not really worth it I'd say.
I received my Smooth 4 yesterday and you have to use the FiLMiC Pro apps to actually make it work as Samsung Android Zhiyun App fails to work on the Smooth 4 ..when will that be addressed as it has 12 failure / faults problems
michaelauknz now there is no any problem app is already updated. I m using it with my note 7 without any problem
The problem is you can't film it at 24fps (cinematic), you need an ND filter and maybe a lens, e.g. Moondog Anamorphic. I'd like to see that on Smooth 4. Otherwise it's a great movie.
Yeah ND filters would really really help out, I'm going to try and test out some different accessories for the iPhone and see how they work out in combination with the Smooth 3/4 :)
Think it only works on iphones . Android it's chops zooms in
It might also depend on the phone itself... I've seen some that work better than others
Hi, I hope you are still reading comments. I have a problem when trying to do this move because the zoom is way to jittery, it goes in somewhat small increments but is nowhere near smooth.
When I do it semi automatically it looks good but I am really trying to learn it manually.
It is almost like the sensitivity of the focus/zoom wheel is too large or something, do you have any idea how to fix it?
Hi! Thanks for commenting. Unfortunately I suspect that's a limitation of the phone camera and/or how it is technically able to interact with the gimbal. Which phone are you using? I've only tested it with an iPhone so it might be a different experience with different models. I know that Androids can often have problems in particular
@@ScottDumas Xiaomi mi 9, what confuses me is that when I am using the app (Filmic pro) to zoom, its going buttery smooth, only when I use the wheel you can see the jaggedness.
Thxs
Vous parlez trop vite
Good Job
Can you just use this function everytime? Like if i'm shooting a tracking shot and want to use the vertigo half way through? Can i do all this while still filming. Or do i have to stop filming, take the vertigo shot, resume filming and then edit it together?
Manually, you can do this anytime during recording :)
@@ScottDumas thanks!
Chew-ing not Ziun how do I know this, well let’s see uh, I watched a demo video from an “Asian” rep from the company tell us the correct pronunciation! So come on let’s get it right!
There's Asian pronunciation and American pronunciation
That's the difference between Asian english and American english pronunciation
Scott...thanks for explaining what I was very eager to learn. Got my smooth4 yesterday.
Hi Scott, Great clip .. My question is connecting a mic.. Is it possible to connect a standard Audio 3.5mm mic plug access for the phone ?? I had a DJI Osmo 2 which it is not..!!
Hi. My new device will not "Connect to devise", with Bluetooth and new soft , nor to Nokia 3 , nor to Huawei P9 2017. Please help !!!
Ahh I wish I could help more :( I know close to zero about the Android OS unfortunately but I know there have been issues. I'll give this a thumbs up and hope it is close enough to the top that others will see it and can help!
Is there a list of available phones anywhere?
technically I think it should be any smartphone with bluetooth and within the weight range (although overweight wouldn't affect connectivity)... It's most likely an issue with Zhiyun's app though or something in the settings somewhere.
Thx
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how to control roll axis in smooth 4 ? it has no joystick... i want to get tilted horizon shot
So, can you shoot 4k with Samsung phones with the Android ZY play app?
yes
i find the smooth 4 here, not bad !
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love it! i preordered mine and i can't wait to get it
I hope you enjoy it!!
Great video, It’s quite not easy to filming dolly shot with smooth 4 I still practice on it.
I have a question but not related to smooth 4. Just wondering what is lav mic you using in this video? The audio is very good no noise or another sound around you?
This was the Rodelink Filmmaker Kit lav mic... it worked alright but I think this particular unit had some problems (it didn't reach anywhere near the full distance that it should)... at this distance though having a wireless lav mic is really great. I hope to look at some from Sennheiser soon as well, they're a little more expensive but have a good reputation (Rode typically does as well).
Hello, nice explanation you have made. Have you tried tracking an object, such as a person or a car in motion, and let Gimbal follow the object by panning and tilt? Can it really be true that it loses tracking points after 5-10 seconds?
Hi! I have tried it a bit, and in my experience it definitely can lose the subject fairly easily. It depends on a lot of factors like how clearly defined the subject is, but it's not the best tracking I've tried.
good
thank you!
great story! thank!
Thanks for watching! :)
Hi, could U make video with Zhiyun and phone lenses? Which one is best to buy ( expectations ). And how much weight gimble could manage with it. I actually lack of detailed information about phone lenses thease days.
Also I thinking about Rode VideoMicro to improve the sound. So it will be good starter for amateur like me.
I will definitely try! I don't have any lenses at the moment actually but I will be trying to see if I can get my hands on some for review. As for weight, it will definitely depend how it's balanced (most weight to one side or evenly spread) but it seems to work with my iPhone X no problem so far even with a medium thickness case, so I would be curious myself as well to see how it handles different size/weight lenses. The Rode smartphone mic could work too, although annoying with the iPhone X because of the headphone jack issue. :( Bummer for me haha
Vertigo effect is inbuilt in the gimbal why r u using manual zoom, under camera option last option is vertigo... us e that using camera button....
Ah, you're completely right! I focused mostly on using the gimbal itself and not diving so deep into the updated app. My mistake, I totally missed that, thank you for bringing it to my attention! :) I'll definitely be making an updated video on that!!
thank you for your work! I have wanted to know how to do it. and I think I can do it! but first, I need smooth 4 TT. it hasn't arrived yet. !!!
Thanks for watching! :) Hope you enjoy it when it comes!!
skip!?! SKIP !!? there’s no skip !!! that’d be rude !!!
Haha well I appreciate that :-D
About the best explanation I have seen so far on this feature.
Awesome! Glad it was helpful :)
What about with android smartphone??? Is it working right with them
I'll do my best to get an android to test out, but haven't had a chance yet.
Scott Dumas please try.. many guys are looking forward android with zhiyun smooth 4
I just talked to support on their website and they confirmed ZY play to work with galaxy s9 with 4k
Hmm strange (but good to hear). I'll have to try it out again and see if I can figure out some other settings that may have affected it. Thanks for letting me know!
Scott Dumas thanks
Is there an issue working with the iPhone 8 Plus ?
As far as I know it should be ok, but I haven't tried it myself so I can't say 100%
Thank bro
very good video! this gymbal works for iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus?
It should! The 8 plus is just a hair under the recommended weight limit so it would be pushing it, but theoretically it should work :)
Scott Dumas thank you
Is the zhiyun smooth 4 compatible to the iPhone se? How does work the app?
It should be no problem as far as I know :) The app is so so... definitely far from perfect, but does have some nice features as well. It's always changing too so what works now might not work in the future, and the opposite as well. The gimbal itself works great though.
Scott Dumas thank you for the quick answer! :)
Thank you so much for your review/tutorial. I really appreciate it. I've been quite excited about getting the Smooth 4 however I've been reading a lot about how the app is terrible for Android phones. I have the S5 Active.
Can you please tell me what functions can the Smooth 4 do without the use of the Zhiyun Play app?
I'm considering researching and purchasing the DJI Osmo 2 but still not sure. I prefer a Gimbal with less functions but have the ability to use all of.
Thanks so much and hope to hear back from you.
Hey thanks so much for watching! I only had very little time with with the app on an android phone so it's hard to say if my experience was what others will have. But, in any case, without the app I think you'd basically be stuck with the gimbal itself and no extra functions (of course it would stabilize your phone and you can use pan follow/lock/full follow and phonego modes) but won't be able to start/stop recording or use the zoom feature. I do agree that sometimes a more simple gimbal can be nice, but it can also be nice to have the extra features in case you decide to use them in the future. It's definitely a hard choice with so many on the market.
It’s Android... so don’t expect much from such garbage
Thank you! Great video ☺️
Thanks so much! :)
Great explanation thanks brother.
Thanks so much! :)
Doesn't work well with s9+ the Zy play app. No 4k recording and etc.
Yeah unfortunately it seems like they still haven't fixed the issues for Android users just yet :(
Is it not possible to use this gimbal with an s9+ and just use the native camera app instead of the ZY Play app?
Then purchase older generation gimbal n save money. No need to get the latest tech.
You can use it with the native camera of course but the extra features like the focus wheel and all the buttons won't really have any meaning, in that case I'd say it would be more worth it to get something older and simpler or just a different brand that works better with the app, like the freevision vilta m (might not be perfect on android but I've heard it's much better- iphone has no issues with their app)
Why its shaking too much when I zoom in and out ?
Typically with more magnification/a longer lens vibrations will be more and more noticeable so when you zoom in and out the small movements of your hand are more visible and it definitely needs practice/care to get smoother movements. I've found these vertigo clips respond really well to stabilization afterwards though if you put them in some software like final cut that has that ability. I believe that TH-cam itself also has the ability to add stabilization to videos, and that could help.
Scott Dumas thank you bro😊
Hi, thanks for the video!
One question... Does the zhiyun camera app allow fixed focus?
That's basic for me, as in my phone (Xiaomi mi mix 2) the autofocus os always working in the native camera app and that ruins completely any gimbal video...
Hi! Thanks for watching! In theory it seems that you should be able to lock your focus, but I've had issues with the app kind of jumping back into auto mode (both for focus and exposure) by itself. I'm going to be experimenting with it a lot more in the coming week or so, and I'll be sure to include that point in my overall review.
Ok! Thank you so much, its soo important... I've seen some other vídeos and yes, I saw that It allows you yo select focus, but is nice yo know that there's issues. Waiting for your news... Seems to be a good product anyways.
Thanks again!
Hey I messed around with it a bit more today and there does indeed seem to be a button on screen to lock focus... I'm still curious if playing around with other settings will cancel it out and make you re-select it, like it has with some other settings, but to some level the option does seem to be there and be working for the most part :) Again, I'll be sure to have more in my final review :)
Can you move the phone with the joystick (left/right)?
Unfortunately no, not as far as I know. The left and right button on the wheel (there's not an actual joystick) control different options (exposure compensation and reverse camera mode).
Oh, sad to hear that, I'm thinking if I want to get this one or maybe the Dji Osmo 2, I don't really need the vertigo and the rest of the features are pretty much the same
Yeah from gimbal to gimbal the performance will probably be pretty similar, so the features are what make the biggest difference. If you don't need the vertigo, then the Osmo (or some other choice) might be wiser for you. :)
It's a hard choice, 1 reason I would look at the Osmo is cause it's DJI it's a huge great drone maker, but on the other hand when it comes to gimbals it seems that Zhiyun is doing a great job as well, the price difference is too small to be a decider here in my case so I guess it will end with who has a better app, and even in that area both of the companies seem to be doing pretty good job.
Yeah I think most choices around that price point should be fairly similar in performance. If you have an Android though I'd definitely not recommend the Zhiyun because the app seems terrible (for android). I'd hope that will be updated soon but you never know.
Hi from Venezuela!!! Does it works with an iPhone 8 Plus and moment lenses with the filter adapters? Everywhere they say it supports up to 210 grams
Hi! Thanks for watching! It will probably come down to the balance of the weight, more than the total weight. The arm doesn't have as much range to adjust as the Smooth 3 for example, so if it's too heavy on one side you might possibly run into some issues. Couldn't be sure without trying though, sorry.
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DigitalFoto Solution Thanks!
this is working with sony devices?
I haven't been able to try, but generally the app is not good on Android at the moment. The gimbal itself will work fine of course, but the app is the issue.
i know i have seen lot of reviews and really like the smooth 4 and i want to buy it but i have the sony xz1 and i don t find anything about Compatibility of this two.Can you make a video about that.... thanks for your respawn
With Android systems in general, the App will be your big problem at the moment. I don't have the xz1 to test personally but with the Android I tested that was the only issue I found.
thank you scott
Superb!!
thanks so much! :)
360°???
Do you mean the rotation? Unfortunately not... Pan: 300°, Tilt: 240°, Roll: 240°
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i find the smooth 4 here, not bad !
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