Good News! Filmic Pro and Zhiyun just announced that the latest version of Filmic Pro can now be controlled with the physical controls on the Smooth 4!
Hi Curtis I am thinking of getting a smooth 4 or a dji 2. can the smooth 4 be used as a stabilizer without the app so i can use 60fps. If so what functions would work without the app ,As the app sounds bad as i have researched . I am wanting to use it with my Galaxy s8 plus . Thanks.
@@HandpanDemonstrate Hi, yes, you can use it without the app, but the follow-focus knob doesn't work and you cannot change camera settings from the gimbal. But otherwise, yes, it works great without the app.
Dear Curtis, Thank you so much for a wonderful video. Can you help us with one feature which we cannot find. How to turn off sound while taking a picture or video in a silent event? Regards, ChessBase India
Hello dear, may you please advise me, which is better as response of gimbals, Hohem iSteady or this one Zhiyun Smooth 4 smartphone Gimbal Stabilizer? And how much do you think that the microphone type FM1 (shown in video) enhance the voice comparing to without it? thanks
sir! can we use for short movie .. I need for mobile film making ..but u said..one cons side "it does not remove completely footsteps .. what effects that.. ?? plz xpln...
You can still see some bouncing when the person operating the gimbal takes steps. All I'm saying is that it is not perfectly smooth, but it is pretty good. Best wishes!
Curtis, I really like your style of tuition and look forward to more from you. I’ve just bought a Smooth 4. My iPhone 7’s battery doesn’t last more than 25 minuets! I’m not recording, just getting use to it around the house. Is there a setting I need to adjust in the phone to extend battery life? I’ve bought a special charging adapter which allows the phone to remain mounted to the gimble and a iPhone cable to plug in but there doesn’t seem to be a cable on the market to connect the two when mounted and on the go. Can you advise please. Thanks Peter
This is my concern, as I just purchased the Smooth 4. Waiting for it to be delivered, today. I found this cable on Amazon, hopefully it’ll help solve this problem www.amazon.com/DF-DIGITALFOTO-Charge-Samsung-Android/dp/B07FDXK5SD/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1531888056&sr=8-3&keywords=charge+cable+for+smooth+4
Hi Curtis, let me know how to keep the movie very smooth, it seams like my recording is slow and delayed .I am using Iphone 6 .It is very hard to balance it with the case on.Is there a place where I can see how to use this gimbal. Thank you for you help and your post here .
Hi Krzysztof, I’m not affiliated with Zhiyun but their support should be able to help solve any technical issues. I would recommend using the default camera app which comes with iPhone to see if that seems less slow and delayed. That’ll tell you whether there’s an issue with the Zhiyun app. As for keeping the movie smooth, definitely practice walking with your knees slightly bent and using your ankles to smooth steps as much as possible. Also, need to keep your arm, elbow, and wrist limber and smooth. Some people find holding the gimbal with two hands helps as well. Good luck!
Depends on what you're trying to accomplish and where you're shooting - If you're not in good ambient light and the subject will be a little farther from the camera, then yes, a light and microphone will help. Sadly, with iPhones, the lightning port is blocked when in the gimbal so there isn't an easy way to add a microphone.
Hi Jow, yes, the Zhiyun app is one option, though I hear it isn’t the best for Android. There is also FilmicPro. Of course any camera app can record video but without using the controls on the gimbal.
Maybe u can help me I have an lg v20 android and the smooth 4 gimbal zy app don't work with my phone....I then bought an evo gimbal thinking it would work the app keep closing what do you suggest
Been looking at this for doing some filming of RC cars. But I've heard and read that the app is not the greatest specially on android. I have a Samsung s9 anyone tested it and what are you thoughts. And also are you able to use the gimbal with out all the special functions like tapping the phones screen to start shooting etc
When mounted on a monopod and shooting top down view for about 30seconds, the gimbal tilts back. Is that due to balancing issue or gimbal can't be held static for longer duration?
I just got mine but i have problems with it. I don't know if the problem is with the gimbal or the app but I can't use some of the modes like slow motion, panoramic mode
Does the extreme wide angle lenses work with Smooth 4? I currently use the Smooth q2, but that one can't handle the widest lens at all. The arm gets into the image no matter how I turn the gimbal.
Can this hold the galaxy s20 ultra? I ordered but for some reason. It keeps flipping forward and the screen faces down.. it will go up after turned on but after like 3sec is falls floppy again.. It feels like the phone is to big. I have adjusted both counter weight parts it comes with.
Hy Curtis, this is the best Zhiyun Smooth 4 Instructionvideo i have seen on youtube. my gimbal is coming on friday and i can not wait. Thank you for this nice Video
Curtis - any idea how well this might work with an aftermarket clip-on lens on a smart phone like the 7+ or 6+? Do you think you'll have balance problems?
Hi Pat, I didn't try that as I don't have any clip-on lenses, unfortunately. I think that'd work fine with smaller cameras but might push the weight too far for the larger phones like the 6+ and 7+. I'll let you know if I get a chance to try.
Hi Abdullah, yes. The only thing that will not work is that you cannot change the settings or start/stop the video or take a picture with the controls on the gimbal handle with the native iOS camera app.
I think the tracking feature is the most impressive thing about this - where it actually will follow your subject around, moving the gimbal for you, even if unattended on its tripod on a table or something. I wish larger gimbals could do that with regular cameras, but without a way to install an app on the camera, there's no way to tie into their object tracking. BUT, I've heard people are now installing the app on their phones, then mounting their phones to their camera via hot or cold shoe, and letting their larger Zhiyun Crane-class stabilizers use the phone/app combo to move the stabilizer around to let the big camera do its thing. For single operators, Zhiyun is really killing it, and they price their products very fairly, unlike a lot of the other gimbal makers. Even the big Crane Plus and Crane 2 are priced fairly for their class. Now we just need to see what Red's Hydrogen One can bring to the phone recording stable.
Hi Judd, I can only seem to balance my iPhone 7 on this gimbal when it's a little more than half a centimeter away from the base of the harness (not touching it). Why do you think that is and will it cause any problems? Also, I already have a microphone Ive been using with my old cell phone that plugs into the audio port. But it won't work with my iPhone7. What do you suggest? Thanks a lot.
Hi Kimberly, Have you extended the horizontal arm by unscrewing the knob on the back of the arm? As for mics, some people in the comments below have found right angle lightning adapters which then allow them to attach microphones. You might give that a try.
Hi sir. Is Zhiyun Smooth 4 compatible with Oppo F9? I really need answers because if its compatible with my oppo f9, i have a plan to purchase one for myself. Thank you sir and God bless!
Hi Thanks for your effort I bought smooth 4 How can i make it stable before i turn it on Is there an automatic installation (stabilization)in zy application as is available in the application of osmo mobile? Thank
Hi Ahmad, I'm afraid I cannot, I don't have access to the Play store on my iPhone. Probably best to contact Zhiyun support. They should be able to guide you in the right direction. Best wishes!
No, that is the very unfortunate thing about this and its in-built battery. I guess I would contact Zhiyun support and see if they offer a battery replacement offer yet. I don't believe they did back when I did this review.
Was this review made with an iPhone or Android phone (which?)? I've read horrible reviews about the Android app having limited and terrible functionality. Any opinions about this?
Lock v PF - this is the main question I have for this. I film walks in London on my Samsung 6 using either the DJI Osmo 2 or the Zhiyun Smooth 4; this is for upload to my TH-cam channel as a hobby. I find pan focus to just whizz wildly from one side to the other as I turn slightly while walking along the street on the Zhiyun, but the lock mode seems a little heavy on the footsteps. For just filming a walk through city streets I still don't know the best setting. The DJI does not force me to make this choice, but again is very whizzy the minute I start moving the gimbal. and footage suffers as I turn However I use the DJI much less these days even though it is lighter and has the pan function, as the app/phone and gimbal do not seem to communicate so it's as if there is no gimbal at all and I might as well just walk along without it. On both gimbals the edge of the gimbal appears on one side of the footage wherever I position the phone and I am now trying to edit this out in Sony Vegas. I struggle with both gimbals but in particular wonder if it's PF or lock for my kind of usage on the Zhiyun.
Thank you for replying:) I have just spent an hour with both gimbals just recording around the house and it seems pan focus is the correct one to use after all on the Zhiyun. The only problem seems to be that it doesn't always do anything when I press the record button and it can take a bit of on and off to get it started. The DJI just refuses to have my phone straight, it is just constantly on a tilt and - to get back to your answer - I find I am having to hold the handle at multiple odd angles to keep it straight. A shame because the DJI is so much lighter! So yes, holding it vertically does indeed work fine:)
i did not get your point about its battery issue.................................in what time does it wear out? 500 cycles.........................mean one can charge battery 500 times and then it will be finished???
That's the idea, yes. 500 times is quite a lot of times. If you charged it every day, it would last about 1.7 years. But each charge lasts a long time. So if you're shooting for 12 hours every day, you'll definitely get your money's worth after 1.7 years. :)
@@mr.nine9 Yes, but I have heard that the app on Android is not great. But just using the phone's camera app, you can get nice smooth shots with this, you just cannot use the focus/zoom control.
Thanks Tony. OIS = optical image stabilization and EIS = electronic image stabilization. OIS is hardware on your phone, EIS is software. Usually OIS is better but give each a try and see what kinds of results you get with each. Good luck!
Didn’t turn off due to overheating in my tests - had it on for over an hour at a time. I don’t have an Android but the Android app seems to be the thing people complain about most.
Thanks for your very helpful reviews! Can you please comment whether one could manage to plug a wired lavalier microphone into an iPhone while using this?
Thanks Diane, It looks like you'd need an adapter because the lightning port on iPhone is pressed up against the gimbal harness when operating it. An adapter like this should do the job: amzn.to/2RKOxU6
Hey ! 1 more question. If you attach something like a moment anamorphic or the moment wide lens, will the gimbal balance the shot properly or we have to attach counter weight (not sire we can do that) ?
Not sure as I don't have an accessory lens. My sense is that would be too much weight if you're using one of the 6 inch or larger phones. *Might* work with the smaller phones if the accessory lens is light enough. Will try to test some time.
Curtis Judd thanks for the reply! Btw I saw an official moment video just now in which they said that the smooth 4 gimbal will work with the moment lens and case if you attach a moment counterweight which will work good with the smooth 4. Sorry for the question.
Curtis great video, I'm on the cusp of buying. Any experience with this counterweight recommended by Zhiyun? EACHSHOT Universal Counterweight for Zhiyun Smooth 4 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G56PZYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3A14HZTSVPRLX&psc=1#customerReviews
I'm not sure - I gave mine away to someone who needed it more than me. But my recollection is that if you're using the Zhiyun app, there is a setting on the screen to change the focal length.
+Eli L hi Eli, thanks. I tend not to use the joystick while shooting on most gimbals because the start/stop motion is a bit robotic looking so not something I missed here. If it is something you use a lot, you may miss it.
@@curtisjudd so, Can yo pleas suggest me any gimbal.. I'm a new creator and planning to shoot vlogs on different trips. You may watch my latest video and suggest me accordingly. I need help from senior creators like you..
@@ANYTIMESUMIT I'm afraid I gave up on gimbals. I felt very frustrated and so I don't use them anymore. However, I would recommend you have a loot at Brandon Li's channel. He does a lot of gimbal reviews and should have some recommendations for you: th-cam.com/channels/3stPIuUoCDHG7COfwr0tEA.html Best wishes!
Hi Stuart, that's correct, I haven't reviewed any other action cam gimbals. Probably best to check channels like MicBergsma for action cam related reviews.
Curtis, should talk with others that use this gimbal. Specifically ones that aren't pawns of the company. I had a different experience with the Zhiyum Smooth 4. It never worked and support would allow me to return/replace. It sets in the local land fill now for it's constant software/firmware errors. I bought a FreeFly Movi two weeks ago and have experienced a gimbal now that WORKS so I can add specifically that this gimbal is loaded but problems are too pervasive to make it one that you' d be able to use. It works as a gyroscope, but you don't buy it for that, you buy it to link with the phone via bluetooth. This is a poorly executed gimbal. I am far from the only person with problems.
Hi Floyd, I'm sorry, I don't have an Android phone to tell. Might be best to find a review somebody did with an Android phone and this gimbal. Best wishes!
The gimbal operates in terms of smoothing out footage, but the zoom/focus control or start recording buttons on the gimbal do not work with the default camera app (on iPhone.) I believe it is the same on Android.
So I recently got my smooth 4 and it's amazing your tips really help but one thing I have noticed is that a pinkish purple ish light appears after awhile and the stabilizer turns itself. The smooth 4 is still connected to my phone through Bluetooth but the stabilizer is off completely any idea on how to fix that?
Did you had any problem with the motor showing up in your shots? Because some reviewers said that the motor was coming in their shots, which ruined it.
Hi, good question. I didn’t see the motors in any of my shots with the iPhone 7+. I wonder if it might be with phones where the lens is not at the top of the phone but more towards the center...
Curtis, have you heard of any complaints with the Smooth 4 with Android phones (maybe more specifically Samsung Note 5) where the dial's actions are not smooth at all? I find it very jerky and unreliable with respect to that.
Hi, great video, I’ve just bought the smooth 4 and so far I’m very impressed - but do you know if it can do a fully automated normal video pan? E.g. using the tripod legs - start recording video at exact point and pan for 10 seconds and finish at another exact point. I can do a motion time lapse at 1/30 frame rate which gives me great video but because it’s time lapse it doesn’t record any sound.
I watched some other hands-on videos, most of them claims that the tracking mode has issues on following, can you tell me what’s your opinion? Thanks ~
Hi Michael, if presenting and not moving too radically, it seems fine. It is partly a factor of the phone OS and CPU power of the phone (lots of processing to make this work).
Thanks Daniel. For product demos like what I do, it seemed to do ok but I have not tested it extensively. Do you have samples online illustrating the issues you have experienced?
Curtis Judd Audio I’m currently editing a lot of drone footage which I’m hoping to complete by next week, then I will work on the Smooth Q 4 footage. You can see some good examples of the tracking problems here: th-cam.com/video/HR8ss9GlEck/w-d-xo.html
On the iPhone app it seems to work well as long as both eyes are facing the camera. When the person turns away, it sometimes looses focus until they turn back and both eyes are visible in the frame.
You can use Filmic Pro to record while the phone is on the gimbal, but doesn't look like there's integration to use the gimbal controls with Filmic, just the ZY Play app for now.
hi , but only the problem is , 12 hours battery backup for Gimbel , but when this iPhone connect through the app , with is a hour the phone battery will come down and getting over heat , also we can’t charge the phone from the Gimbel, it’s not well product , human hand is best Gimbel
Great review Curtis. The product was well explained, there's a few of those on TH-cam already, but you included some awesome footage in your samples showing not only it's features but a glimpse at your great videographer skills. Subscribed, thank you
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Good News! Filmic Pro and Zhiyun just announced that the latest version of Filmic Pro can now be controlled with the physical controls on the Smooth 4!
Curtis Judd does it work in iPhone 6s ???
@@motorrad_vlogs Yes
Curtis Judd thanks a lot
Hi Curtis I am thinking of getting a smooth 4 or a dji 2. can the smooth 4 be used as a stabilizer without the app so i can use 60fps. If so what functions would work without the app ,As the app sounds bad as i have researched . I am wanting to use it with my Galaxy s8 plus . Thanks.
@@HandpanDemonstrate Hi, yes, you can use it without the app, but the follow-focus knob doesn't work and you cannot change camera settings from the gimbal. But otherwise, yes, it works great without the app.
This is the best review on the Smooth 4 on TH-cam. Great job!
Thanks!
I'd have to agree. Very well done and I've watch quite a few videos so far.
+1
Will attach gimbal to tripod?
Yes.
Dear Curtis, Thank you so much for a wonderful video. Can you help us with one feature which we cannot find. How to turn off sound while taking a picture or video in a silent event?
Regards,
ChessBase India
Hi, you’ll want to contact the manufacturer of your phone for details on how to do that. Best wishes!
Hello dear, may you please advise me, which is better as response of gimbals, Hohem iSteady or this one
Zhiyun Smooth 4 smartphone Gimbal Stabilizer?
And how much do you think that the microphone type FM1 (shown in video) enhance the voice comparing to without it?
thanks
Hi Elias, unfortunately I haven’t used the Hohem so I’m not sure. Best wishes!
Will use this gimbal for TH-cam live streaming
Yes.
The black is so much more nicer looking. 👍
With my dirty paws, I think its the better choice. 😉
sir! can we use for short movie .. I need for mobile film making ..but u said..one cons side "it does not remove completely footsteps .. what effects that.. ?? plz xpln...
You can still see some bouncing when the person operating the gimbal takes steps. All I'm saying is that it is not perfectly smooth, but it is pretty good. Best wishes!
Curtis, I really like your style of tuition and look forward to more from you. I’ve just bought a Smooth 4. My iPhone 7’s battery doesn’t last more than 25 minuets! I’m not recording, just getting use to it around the house. Is there a setting I need to adjust in the phone to extend battery life? I’ve bought a special charging adapter which allows the phone to remain mounted to the gimble and a iPhone cable to plug in but there doesn’t seem to be a cable on the market to connect the two when mounted and on the go. Can you advise please. Thanks Peter
This is my concern, as I just purchased the Smooth 4. Waiting for it to be delivered, today. I found this cable on Amazon, hopefully it’ll help solve this problem www.amazon.com/DF-DIGITALFOTO-Charge-Samsung-Android/dp/B07FDXK5SD/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1531888056&sr=8-3&keywords=charge+cable+for+smooth+4
The cable I found here on TH-cam th-cam.com/video/fvf2o7C5drw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for that Nigel. Looks like a good solution!
Hi Curtis, let me know how to keep the movie very smooth, it seams like my recording is slow and delayed .I am using Iphone 6 .It is very hard to balance it with the case on.Is there a place where I can see how to use this gimbal. Thank you for you help and your post here .
Hi Krzysztof, I’m not affiliated with Zhiyun but their support should be able to help solve any technical issues. I would recommend using the default camera app which comes with iPhone to see if that seems less slow and delayed. That’ll tell you whether there’s an issue with the Zhiyun app. As for keeping the movie smooth, definitely practice walking with your knees slightly bent and using your ankles to smooth steps as much as possible. Also, need to keep your arm, elbow, and wrist limber and smooth. Some people find holding the gimbal with two hands helps as well. Good luck!
Curtis Judd thank You. If I change the frame speed would that help? Again,thank you I will try.
Definitely give it a try. Higher framerates (e.g., 60fps) will have a smoother look.
Curtis Judd Thanks, I did try it today and worked much better.
I would love to see your take on the freefly movi cinema robot woth iphone as well as comparing the experience with an android phone.
Me too! I can’t promise the Android part, but trying to get the Movi.
👍🏼😄
Hello, not knowing much about media selfie sticks. Is a microphone or/& light a must have to be as professional as the next guy?
Depends on what you're trying to accomplish and where you're shooting - If you're not in good ambient light and the subject will be a little farther from the camera, then yes, a light and microphone will help. Sadly, with iPhones, the lightning port is blocked when in the gimbal so there isn't an easy way to add a microphone.
is it possible to tilt the camera slightly sideways? - not left or right but left side of the phone goes down and right side of the phone goes up?
Not that I saw.
Good video. I read that the walking mode you should adopt whilst filming is the "Groucho walk".
Thanks. I haven't heard of the groucho walk. Will need to look that up. :-D
Sir I have smooth 4 gimbal but it can't work when the on gimbal it's show redlight on grip
Probably best to contact Zhiyun support. Best wishes!
Hi may I ask if this gimbal works with samsung s8? And what app should be use? Thanks
Hi Jow, yes, the Zhiyun app is one option, though I hear it isn’t the best for Android. There is also FilmicPro. Of course any camera app can record video but without using the controls on the gimbal.
check this out. This guy in Vancouver uses that exact setup. Read the comments:
th-cam.com/video/kg81BLlCnDY/w-d-xo.html
Maybe u can help me I have an lg v20 android and the smooth 4 gimbal zy app don't work with my phone....I then bought an evo gimbal thinking it would work the app keep closing what do you suggest
I'm sorry, I'm not sure. Probably best to contact Zhiyun support. Best wishes!
I checked the manual and it list the phones that work with the app so I'll go on amazon
Well, here in Europe it's more like $175. In Denmark it's about $200. Buy the way, what size is the tripod thread? Nice review as always, thank you.
Hi Lau, the tap is 1/4-20.
Thank you, then my cheap Camlink monopod should fit.
I'm interested in this product just wondering if this works with all samsung devices i have checked their website but it doesn't specify
Hi Ms Chichi, I have an iPhone so I’m not sure but I have heard that the Android app is not very good so be cautious.
Been looking at this for doing some filming of RC cars. But I've heard and read that the app is not the greatest specially on android. I have a Samsung s9 anyone tested it and what are you thoughts. And also are you able to use the gimbal with out all the special functions like tapping the phones screen to start shooting etc
Hi Jeremy, Chris Pitt left some comments here suggesting that it does not work well with S9.
When mounted on a monopod and shooting top down view for about 30seconds, the gimbal tilts back. Is that due to balancing issue or gimbal can't be held static for longer duration?
Good question, I'm not sure. May be best to contact Zhiyun support to get their input. Best wishes!
I just got mine but i have problems with it. I don't know if the problem is with the gimbal or the app but I can't use some of the modes like slow motion, panoramic mode
Hi cara, probably best to contact Zhiyun support. Hopefully they can get these sorted out for you. Best wishes!
Im pretty late for this but may i know how much it costs in US dollar?
Currently $120. Links in the description.
How to slove redlight indicator on gimbal
I’m sorry, I don’t understand.
Does the extreme wide angle lenses work with Smooth 4? I currently use the Smooth q2, but that one can't handle the widest lens at all. The arm gets into the image no matter how I turn the gimbal.
I don't think so. I don't have it on hand to test, but I would expect the arms on this to be in the way of the ultrawide cameras.
Can this hold the galaxy s20 ultra? I ordered but for some reason. It keeps flipping forward and the screen faces down.. it will go up after turned on but after like 3sec is falls floppy again.. It feels like the phone is to big. I have adjusted both counter weight parts it comes with.
Not sure. Might be best to contact Zhiyun support. Best wishes!
Hy Curtis, this is the best Zhiyun Smooth 4 Instructionvideo i have seen on youtube. my gimbal is coming on friday and i can not wait. Thank you for this nice Video
Thanks Christian! I hope you like the Smooth 4!
Can u share urexperience with this gimbal sir?thanks
Can I place the camera then set it to cord me doing a exercise class?
On iPhone, yes. Not sure about Android.
Curtis - any idea how well this might work with an aftermarket clip-on lens on a smart phone like the 7+ or 6+? Do you think you'll have balance problems?
Hi Pat, I didn't try that as I don't have any clip-on lenses, unfortunately. I think that'd work fine with smaller cameras but might push the weight too far for the larger phones like the 6+ and 7+. I'll let you know if I get a chance to try.
i just bought smooth 4 and struggling to learn on how to use it. your review and tips helps a lot. thanks again.
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Any idea how to lock AF with this gimbal? Without it I can lock the AF. with the gimabl I can't. Why?
I don’t have it anymore but if you contact their support, they should be able to help.
I don’t have it anymore but if you contact their support, they should be able to help.
so how can I use an external microphone using my iPhone 8 plus with this gimbal?
I haven't found a way, unfortunately.
Hi Curtis, Can I use this gimbal for my old Gopro 4+ Thanks
I think you'd need some sort of 3rd party harness to make that work. Or 3D print one yourself.
Hi Sir, the L lock works with app or not, why mine can't be lock pan right, left, I just want lock both sides easier to control, show me how thank you
Hi Duc Do, I'm afraid that I do not understand your question.
Nice video and review, I need to know if this will handle a Samsung galaxy S9 + weight and size???
Hi Oscar, it should support the S9 but I am told by other Android users that the Android app is not very good.
Thank you very much
can I use the original camera app on my iPhone instead of Gimbal app? because camera app has the feature of taking picture while recording video
Hi Abdullah, yes. The only thing that will not work is that you cannot change the settings or start/stop the video or take a picture with the controls on the gimbal handle with the native iOS camera app.
Curtis Judd ، Thank you and I appreciate your response
Hello, hows object tracking with s8 plus... ıs ıt work fine when you walk and recording , thank you
Not sure since I don’t have an S8 but I’ve been told that the Android ZY Play app has some issues
I think the tracking feature is the most impressive thing about this - where it actually will follow your subject around, moving the gimbal for you, even if unattended on its tripod on a table or something. I wish larger gimbals could do that with regular cameras, but without a way to install an app on the camera, there's no way to tie into their object tracking. BUT, I've heard people are now installing the app on their phones, then mounting their phones to their camera via hot or cold shoe, and letting their larger Zhiyun Crane-class stabilizers use the phone/app combo to move the stabilizer around to let the big camera do its thing. For single operators, Zhiyun is really killing it, and they price their products very fairly, unlike a lot of the other gimbal makers. Even the big Crane Plus and Crane 2 are priced fairly for their class. Now we just need to see what Red's Hydrogen One can bring to the phone recording stable.
Thanks for your thoughts, genjii931. Interesting notes re: using the phone for tracking with a larger camera.
Hi Judd,
I can only seem to balance my iPhone 7 on this gimbal when it's a little more than half a centimeter away from the base of the harness (not touching it). Why do you think that is and will it cause any problems?
Also, I already have a microphone Ive been using with my old cell phone that plugs into the audio port. But it won't work with my iPhone7. What do you suggest?
Thanks a lot.
Hi Kimberly, Have you extended the horizontal arm by unscrewing the knob on the back of the arm? As for mics, some people in the comments below have found right angle lightning adapters which then allow them to attach microphones. You might give that a try.
İts wery good but I cant use wireless microphone with İphone 8 plas :(
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Does the zoom nob work smoothly on android because I saw a video saying that it works smooth only in iphones and it is jerky on android.
Not sure, I tested with iPhone 7+
Hi, will this work with the New Insta360 EVO in 180 mode ?. I know the app won't work, I think it should but what do you think🤔. thanks
I have an Insta360 on the way. Will check it out when it arrives.
Hi sir. Is Zhiyun Smooth 4 compatible with Oppo F9? I really need answers because if its compatible with my oppo f9, i have a plan to purchase one for myself. Thank you sir and God bless!
I don’t have an Oppo F9 to test that but Zhiyun support should be able to confirm. Beat wishes!
@@curtisjudd thanks for the quick response sir! I really hope it's compatible with oppo f9.. "sigh"... :(
Hi
Thanks for your effort
I bought smooth 4
How can i make it stable before i turn it on
Is there an automatic installation (stabilization)in zy application as is available in the application of osmo mobile?
Thank
Hi Ahmad, do you mean calibrate the gimbal? I believe that there is a separate app called ZhiyunAssistant you can use to do the calibration.
Curtis Judd Thank you for your interest and respond quickly
Curtis Judd i searched for it and did not find it can u give me the url for this app
Hi Ahmad, I'm afraid I cannot, I don't have access to the Play store on my iPhone. Probably best to contact Zhiyun support. They should be able to guide you in the right direction. Best wishes!
Is there a good way to mount an external mic on this thing? ...something like the Eachshot Q ring for the Smooth Q version?
I would attach it to the 1/4” tap on the bottom of the handle, of course first removing the tripod.
Thanks, good review. One question, how to make a firmware update? Is there a video available?
I just followed the directions at the Zhiyun-Tech website.
Can i use my original phone camera app or i have to use gimball app?
You can use the default camera app, no problem. You just cannot use the knob to zoom or focus with the default camera app.
Any advise on how to replace battery one it runs out?
No, that is the very unfortunate thing about this and its in-built battery. I guess I would contact Zhiyun support and see if they offer a battery replacement offer yet. I don't believe they did back when I did this review.
Does this gimble allow to pause video recording?
Hmm. Not that I recall.
Was this review made with an iPhone or Android phone (which?)?
I've read horrible reviews about the Android app having limited and terrible functionality.
Any opinions about this?
This was all with iPhone 7+. I have heard that the Android app is not so great.
Lock v PF - this is the main question I have for this. I film walks in London on my Samsung 6 using either the DJI Osmo 2 or the Zhiyun Smooth 4; this is for upload to my TH-cam channel as a hobby. I find pan focus to just whizz wildly from one side to the other as I turn slightly while walking along the street on the Zhiyun, but the lock mode seems a little heavy on the footsteps. For just filming a walk through city streets I still don't know the best setting. The DJI does not force me to make this choice, but again is very whizzy the minute I start moving the gimbal. and footage suffers as I turn However I use the DJI much less these days even though it is lighter and has the pan function, as the app/phone and gimbal do not seem to communicate so it's as if there is no gimbal at all and I might as well just walk along without it. On both gimbals the edge of the gimbal appears on one side of the footage wherever I position the phone and I am now trying to edit this out in Sony Vegas. I struggle with both gimbals but in particular wonder if it's PF or lock for my kind of usage on the Zhiyun.
You might try holding the handle vertically if you're not already?
Thank you for replying:) I have just spent an hour with both gimbals just recording around the house and it seems pan focus is the correct one to use after all on the Zhiyun. The only problem seems to be that it doesn't always do anything when I press the record button and it can take a bit of on and off to get it started. The DJI just refuses to have my phone straight, it is just constantly on a tilt and - to get back to your answer - I find I am having to hold the handle at multiple odd angles to keep it straight. A shame because the DJI is so much lighter! So yes, holding it vertically does indeed work fine:)
Good to hear. thanks!
Can we switch the Camera back to front while recording a video...... Can you please answer
I’m don’t think so. I’d test that but I gave the gimbal to my brother for a project.
i did not get your point about its battery issue.................................in what time does it wear out?
500 cycles.........................mean one can charge battery 500 times and then it will be finished???
That's the idea, yes. 500 times is quite a lot of times. If you charged it every day, it would last about 1.7 years. But each charge lasts a long time. So if you're shooting for 12 hours every day, you'll definitely get your money's worth after 1.7 years. :)
@@curtisjudd thanks a lot for your quick response,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,last thing, is it ok with Samsung mobiles?????
@@mr.nine9 Yes, but I have heard that the app on Android is not great. But just using the phone's camera app, you can get nice smooth shots with this, you just cannot use the focus/zoom control.
@@curtisjudd appreciated
Great review. Thanks! Question... what’s the difference between OIS and EIS in the settings?
Thanks Tony. OIS = optical image stabilization and EIS = electronic image stabilization. OIS is hardware on your phone, EIS is software. Usually OIS is better but give each a try and see what kinds of results you get with each. Good luck!
How long it get hot when you use? How is the Android APP?
Didn’t turn off due to overheating in my tests - had it on for over an hour at a time. I don’t have an Android but the Android app seems to be the thing people complain about most.
Thanks for your very helpful reviews!
Can you please comment whether one could manage to plug a wired lavalier microphone into an iPhone while using this?
Thanks Diane, It looks like you'd need an adapter because the lightning port on iPhone is pressed up against the gimbal harness when operating it. An adapter like this should do the job: amzn.to/2RKOxU6
Is there rotation in that gimbal please reply
Yes, it rotates.
Hey ! 1 more question. If you attach something like a moment anamorphic or the moment wide lens, will the gimbal balance the shot properly or we have to attach counter weight (not sire we can do that) ?
Not sure as I don't have an accessory lens. My sense is that would be too much weight if you're using one of the 6 inch or larger phones. *Might* work with the smaller phones if the accessory lens is light enough. Will try to test some time.
Curtis Judd thanks for the reply! Btw I saw an official moment video just now in which they said that the smooth 4 gimbal will work with the moment lens and case if you attach a moment counterweight which will work good with the smooth 4.
Sorry for the question.
Curtis great video, I'm on the cusp of buying. Any experience with this counterweight recommended by Zhiyun? EACHSHOT Universal Counterweight for Zhiyun Smooth 4 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G56PZYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3A14HZTSVPRLX&psc=1#customerReviews
How do I select wide-angle 0.5? I am able on Camera iPhone.
I'm not sure - I gave mine away to someone who needed it more than me. But my recollection is that if you're using the Zhiyun app, there is a setting on the screen to change the focal length.
@@curtisjudd It goes only to 1.0, and 4.0 2 lenses. The third one 0.5 is not available.
@@alexribas122 Sorry, I'm not sure. Perhaps Zhiyun support can help. Best wishes.
@@curtisjudd Zhiyun has ZERO support, that's why I asked 8 people on TH-cam and none know the answer! LOL
Will this work on a Samsung Galaxy Note 9?
Yes, but I have heard that the Zhiyun app for Android is not great. You'll find some more details in the comments on the video below.
Great review. Did you find you were missing a joystick found on many other gimbals? I tend to use a joystick to make small adjustments while filming.
+Eli L hi Eli, thanks. I tend not to use the joystick while shooting on most gimbals because the start/stop motion is a bit robotic looking so not something I missed here. If it is something you use a lot, you may miss it.
Is the joystick missing !!?? And is there any problem you have faced due to missing joystick..?
Mine stopped working so I haven’t used it in ages. No joystick. Can’t remember if the wheel serves that purpose.
@@curtisjudd so, Can yo pleas suggest me any gimbal.. I'm a new creator and planning to shoot vlogs on different trips. You may watch my latest video and suggest me accordingly. I need help from senior creators like you..
@@ANYTIMESUMIT I'm afraid I gave up on gimbals. I felt very frustrated and so I don't use them anymore. However, I would recommend you have a loot at Brandon Li's channel. He does a lot of gimbal reviews and should have some recommendations for you: th-cam.com/channels/3stPIuUoCDHG7COfwr0tEA.html Best wishes!
Can I use in a Iphone 8 and Samsung galaxy S8?
Yes for the iPhone. Not sure about the Galaxy S8.
I just had a quick search of your back catalog. I couldn't find many reviews for action camera gimbal reviews. I found the GVB one but no others.
Hi Stuart, that's correct, I haven't reviewed any other action cam gimbals. Probably best to check channels like MicBergsma for action cam related reviews.
Thanks for the pointer.
Curtis, what would be a better gimbal for the prosumer?
Hi Wayne, I’ve stepped away from gimbals. I might suggest you check Brandon Li’s TH-cam channel. He has great coverage of gimbals.
@@curtisjudd Thanks so much will do. :)
no integration with manual adjusting app like filmicPro?
Correct, no integration with filmic pro. There are manual exposure capabilities in the ZY Play app and manual focus with the focus/zoom knob.
Curtis, should talk with others that use this gimbal. Specifically ones that aren't pawns of the company. I had a different experience with the Zhiyum Smooth 4. It never worked
and support would allow me to return/replace. It sets in the local land fill now for it's constant software/firmware errors. I bought a FreeFly Movi two weeks ago and have experienced a
gimbal now that WORKS so I can add specifically that this gimbal is loaded but problems are too pervasive to make it one that you' d be able to use. It works as a gyroscope, but you don't buy it for that, you buy it to link with the phone via bluetooth. This is a poorly executed gimbal. I am far from the only person with problems.
I can only speak to my experience. I am sorry that your experience was not so good. :(
This is the best video overview of Smooth 4 gimbal. Thanks for making and sharing it.
Thanks D Manalang!
So is it only the 4k? Does 1080 work? Any other features that does not work? Thanks for replying by the way.
Hi Floyd, I'm sorry, I don't have an Android phone to tell. Might be best to find a review somebody did with an Android phone and this gimbal. Best wishes!
Feel cell phone charge wire is not good to use, the operation is also laborious, a key operation method still has to improve.
Fair points.
Can any help me. After I record a video footage and try to it on my phone it doesn't play. Only audio can be heard
Which phone, which app?
@@curtisjudd I'm using a smooth 4 gimbal with a galaxy j7pro
@@curtisjudd but when I want to reproduce the video I record with the smooth 4 after saving it to the phone it doesn't play. Just audio I can heard
@@curtisjudd using zy play app
Probably best to contact Zhiyun support. Best of luck!
Does it work with a cameras default camera app?
The gimbal operates in terms of smoothing out footage, but the zoom/focus control or start recording buttons on the gimbal do not work with the default camera app (on iPhone.) I believe it is the same on Android.
That’s a bit of a deal breaker for me, the default Sony app no other app could give the cinematic aspect ratio and quality
@@stayjuice3724 Ok, understood. It isn't the right solution for everyone.
So I recently got my smooth 4 and it's amazing your tips really help but one thing I have noticed is that a pinkish purple ish light appears after awhile and the stabilizer turns itself. The smooth 4 is still connected to my phone through Bluetooth but the stabilizer is off completely any idea on how to fix that?
Hi Carlos, sounds like it is slipping into standby mode. I haven't run into that issue. Might be best to contact Zhiyun support. Best wishes!
Andrew Reyes are you using a 8plus? I’m running into the same issue after about 5 minutes
nice.
can i use to andriod???
Yes, sort of. Some of the controls don't work back when I made this review. Maybe that has changed. Best to contact Zhiyun support to confirm.
Did you had any problem with the motor showing up in your shots? Because some reviewers said that the motor was coming in their shots, which ruined it.
Hi, good question. I didn’t see the motors in any of my shots with the iPhone 7+. I wonder if it might be with phones where the lens is not at the top of the phone but more towards the center...
So phones woth the top camera placement work well. Thanks for the reply.
Curtis, have you heard of any complaints with the Smooth 4 with Android phones (maybe more specifically Samsung Note 5) where the dial's actions are not smooth at all? I find it very jerky and unreliable with respect to that.
Yes, lots of people in the comments here say that the Zhiyun app doesn't work well on their Android phones.
Hi, great video, I’ve just bought the smooth 4 and so far I’m very impressed - but do you know if it can do a fully automated normal video pan? E.g. using the tripod legs - start recording video at exact point and pan for 10 seconds and finish at another exact point. I can do a motion time lapse at 1/30 frame rate which gives me great video but because it’s time lapse it doesn’t record any sound.
Hi Martin, I'm not certain. I'll give it a try next time I'm using the Smooth 4.
Heyy..does this works on iphone 11?Thanks😄
I’m not sure, but Zhiyun support should be able to confirm.
Will huawei honor 8x 6.5 inch fit in..?
Not sure, best to contact Zhiyun support.
I wonder between DJI osmo mobile 2 I have iphone 6s Can you advise me
Hi KriStof, Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to use the DJI. I'll have a video if I am able to get one.
Do you think that this is good equipment smoth4??
Yes. Watch the review video for what I like about it and what I do not like. It isn't perfect, but pretty good for the price.
I watched some other hands-on videos, most of them claims that the tracking mode has issues on following, can you tell me what’s your opinion? Thanks ~
Hi Michael, if presenting and not moving too radically, it seems fine. It is partly a factor of the phone OS and CPU power of the phone (lots of processing to make this work).
Curtis Judd Audio It’s far from “fine” even on iPhone X. You have to move very slowly, and it does a very poor job keeping object centred.
Thanks Daniel. For product demos like what I do, it seemed to do ok but I have not tested it extensively. Do you have samples online illustrating the issues you have experienced?
Curtis Judd Audio I’m currently editing a lot of drone footage which I’m hoping to complete by next week, then I will work on the Smooth Q 4 footage. You can see some good examples of the tracking problems here: th-cam.com/video/HR8ss9GlEck/w-d-xo.html
Curtis Judd Audio thank you for replying my msg, I notice that you were using front camera,others were using back cam, maybe that’s why
I heard there were some issues with object tracking. This is something I am interested to film myself. Have you experienced that?
On the iPhone app it seems to work well as long as both eyes are facing the camera. When the person turns away, it sometimes looses focus until they turn back and both eyes are visible in the frame.
@@curtisjudd Ok, thanks!
Hey bro
How can you broadcast live with the gimbals? on favebook
Just put the phone in the gimal, open your app and choose the livestream option. Did you mean something more specific than that? Best wishes!
I do that but then it does not connect I do not know what will happen
Ok, sounds like a Facebook issue. Hmm, I’m afraid I’m not sure on that. Maybe a search in the help section over at Facebook. Best wishes!
Does it interface to FilmicPro? I use FP all the time.
You can use Filmic Pro to record while the phone is on the gimbal, but doesn't look like there's integration to use the gimbal controls with Filmic, just the ZY Play app for now.
Eager for someone to reply on this. I am literally brand new to looking into gimbals.
No control integration with Filmic Pro, at least not yet.
The zy plap app is terrible.
Hi Alistair, thanks for the comment. Are you using Android or iOS? What about it do you not like?
Why is the filming done? video has a sound but can't run?
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.
hi , but only the problem is , 12 hours battery backup for Gimbel , but when this iPhone connect through the app , with is a hour the phone battery will come down and getting over heat , also we can’t charge the phone from the Gimbel, it’s not well product , human hand is best Gimbel
I agree, I gave up on motorized gimbals. No more gimbal reviews from me. 😁
Great review Curtis. The product was well explained, there's a few of those on TH-cam already, but you included some awesome footage in your samples showing not only it's features but a glimpse at your great videographer skills. Subscribed, thank you
Thanks Anon.
Thanks Curtis ,
Do you plan to review MōVI cinema robot?
Hi, I hadn't heard about it until you asked. I'll have to look into it! Thanks!
Can we use samsung galaxy s10+ with it
Probably best to contact Zhiyun support to confirm. Best wishes!
Consigo comprar aqui do Brasil?
Não tenho certeza, mas verifique Amazon - link na descrição.
How is the memory management?
I want to take advantage of the 4k recording
Depends on your phone. 4K uses quite a lot of storage space.
Can it disable the iPhone X lens stabilization?
It could disable ois on the 7+. Not sure on X
hello, Do you know if I can use the ZHIYUN assistant app with the Smooth 4?
I don't think so, I think just the ZY Play app. But best to contact Zhiyun support to be certain.
When researching a cable, I found a flat usb c flat 90 degree to usb a only. I couldn't find the usb c flat to a micro cable. Has anyone?
I haven't found anything yet. Anybody else out there have any luck?
I am trying a cable from New Egg and one from AI Express. I will post if I get the right cable. Thanks for replying.
New egg and alibaba.
does it work good for xiaomi redmi 9?
Not sure, but should work ok.
@@curtisjudd thank you!!!
Is this Gimbal compatible with the Panasonic Luminex LX10?
Not sure. Best to ask Zhiyun via their support page.
Sir
Please suggest
Which gimbal is best for both a dslr & iphone
Nikon d850 with telephoto lenses and wide lenses
With the D850, I’d look at Crane 2. Do you mean to fly both the D850 and phone at the same time? Or one at a time?
One at a time
But in TH-cam i am 👂it will support only cannon camera only
Ok sir i will go through with crane 2
Thanks for the suggestion
You pretty much convinced me to buy one of these gimbals with your great video. Nice job!
👍 I hope it works well for you!
@@curtisjudd Thank you!
Is it worth buying a second-hand?
If it is working.
Is it compatible with all smartphones?
Most. Contact Zhiyun support if you want to confirm your particular phone.