Fun Facts and Tips About Chevy Dump Trucks - Roadkill Extra
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- Roadkill has developed a fetish for medium- and heavy-duty trucks. This time, David Freiburger walks you around a 1969 Chevy C50 dump truck to feed you tips about how the bodywork could be used on your 4x4 project. He also goes deep into the mysteries of the 366ci big-block V8 that was never used in passenger cars.
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I really miss when roadkill was free.. 😭 I really enjoyed your shows, but not everyone can afford it
Its cheap..
I’ve got to buy some new Mopar parts instead
Still free, just you get it 2 weeks after premium, or 2 months, i forget. Anyways, after the first year of premium they stopped charging me
you can just keep making different emails and use them to do consecutive 30 day free trials.
$45 a year dude
Annnnnnnd the prices for medium duty trucks just went up.
o2boutdoors at least some won't get crushed
Jason Johnson yeah but other people need them more, usually people who can’t afford the extreme idiotic prices people will want after videos like these
Jason Johnson people still use these for work trucks, not show trucks.
@@Shade_tree_garage01 The company I work for has a GMC with dual rear axles, 5x4 transmission, air brakes and a 427 industrial engine. We were using it until about a year ago.
Even diecast models of medium duty trucks are unreasonably expensive 😭
huge respect for the 366. I was servicing a fleet of them and they regularly hit 250000 km with no engine issues while tiring +4000 rpm down the highway and almost all those miles were highway miles.
they may not be hotrod material, but they are reliable!
J. Dana Clark cool
J. Dana Clark yes
The torqe must be bitchin in low rpm?
Absolutely, the extra ring is for the amount of stress these trucks endure moving 6 tons of payload in the dump bed. Pretty much living its life with the pedal to the floor
Same for the 330 found in older F-600's
Another common engine in those is the 292 inline 6. My father in law has one in an 83 C10. We fuel injected it (including electronic spark control) and turbo charged it. Pretty unique I'd say.
AWLSOME!
You should just restore that truck. It's a beauty.
My thoughts too, it even has A/C is seems. And great for those occasional dump runs or carrying short cars.
I thought the same thing. Pretty rare to see factory ac on these big trucks
I would ditch the bed, put a RV utility box(for tools and straps and such) and a 5th wheel on it and use it as a car hauler.
Youd better change the gear ratio and an overdrive if you wanna go distance.
Yes, don't talk about making something else out of it.
gotta admit , That truck looks great
Valdez Max as a mopar fanatic that can't stand GM; I agree. I'd own that
Kristopher Klassen you might not be able to stand gm. But almost any car gm made has better styling and looks
And the sbc motor is one of the top ten motors ever made of all time
Thanks for the info dump.
I could listen to this guy, all day long. He knows his crap inside out.
ahh yes...the 366 had a great sound...that was the motor in my school bus as a kid
something not mentioned in this video is that the crank is forged. it fits right into a standard passenger block and you have a 427. the crank is very high quality and they have the severe duty rods just a step above the car stuff
427 tall decks are badass race engines
I just did a rescue of a 1989 C7000 that use to haul around a top fuel car! It was a ton, even two tons of fun!
11 years old and I learned to drive in a C60 with a 300 bushel grain box and 6.50 tires. Now find a V6 305, yes. V6
Myvintageiron7512 built one of those on his channel. Pretty cool engine.
mcinkyt they also have a 350v6 and a 4.3v8
They also had the V6 with 472 Cubic Inches
And 478 V6 GMC also had there own V8s & a V12
They put em together for the industrial/agricultural V12, some ran non stop for months non stop powering pumps and generators.
Dave has a true passion for all cool vehicles. He's a real auto enthusiast!
Thank you very much for answering all of my questions I have had about the 366 since I was a kid. My father had a 1970 as a wrecker. It had the 366 with a holley 4 bbl and had no guts whatsoever. I always wondered about that engine and why I never saw it in cars. Thanks!!!!!
I just picked up a 79 c70 with the 366 and this video is perfect!!!
Jory Mosshart check out my 69C10 rat rod with a 366 in it.
Drove a 69 grain truck like this one except it was longer and had the 427 in it. Was a tank.
We have a 70 GMC 5500, basically the same truck, that we put a 13 ft grain box on. It started life as a county dump truck without power steering. It's a brute to drive. 5 speed trans with 2 speed rear end and a 350 engine. NO AC except the 2/55 ac.
Scored a tall deck 427 BBC out of a dump truck. They're hidden gems for sure.
There badass! Building one to a 555 cubic inch! For my 55 belair
not one cut or edit ..... David has great knowledge with simple dynamics to paint clear pictures
should get a job at apple.
only-one earth but he doesn't have shitty business practices and rip off his customers.
Let's put a blower on this Mac Pro!
Noooo don't put him at apple. They don't give a fuck for visionaries they just want to re package Steve job inventions.
so true, I also always notice Freiburgers clips not being edited of cut whatsoever.
David can't be David if David works for a corporate.
While a 366 may not be an ideal engine to get performance out of, I DO know that truck blocks were usually much thicker than their passenger car brethren and in particular those 366 blocks were hella thick. According to one rebuilder of the those engines and the book he wrote on Chevy big blocks, the 366 is capable of being bored out 125 thou. What that means in terms of bore size, or piston availability that I don't know. But it might be an interesting exercise to see if it's possible. ...or just stuff the 366 into a ratrod and call it good.
supposedly, the book mentions only boring the 427 out .125, the 366 can stand .090. I would have thought they shared a water jacket sand core to save money at the foundry. The bore is 3.935, so if sonic check said only .09 is possible, that's a 382 cid and a lot of weight since it's a tall deck block (you can put your thumb between the water pump and the bottom of the cylinder head). I guess one might try to sleeve for bigger cylinder bores, but at that point you might as well buy any aftermarket block out there and have thicker everything and roller lifter bores. The 427 was--before aftermarket blocks--the go-to for stroker Rats, since there was room for a big $2,000 billet crank and connecting rods. As far as just using the crank, I'll bet its balanced to those heavier pistons, so I think that too is about as costly as just picking up an aftermarket Chinese crank from the get-go.
Albert Gaspar, Or just put a mild hydraulic cam in a 454 and destroy any variation of a 366...
So this motor can handle huge boost...6-71 or twin turbos.
@@albertgaspar627 that 366 has a monstrous amount of torque. That’s why they were used so much in the trucking Industry. It was cheaper because of the small cubic inches but torque out the Wazoo. A very unique motor. Many miles we put on one bro it out die. If I had one in my u k, I woul not want anything else. Cool motor.
@@stansmith1911 they did make torque, just like inline sixes surprisingly popular in big trucks with a numerically high rear gear ratio. Smaller displacement will result in better fuel economy on an empty truck going to a work site at a steady RPM on the highway. They will pull amazing loads up a hill, they just won't do it at great speed like modern diesels with overdrive transmissions. But a benefit of gas engines in cold temps is the fuel won't gel like diesel fuel, you just need to keep the tanks full so they won't fill with water vapour that freezes into ice overnight.
My Saturday morning dump! Thanks!
Bought 1 of those 427 tds years ago. Went to get it all machined up, and got talked into a swap with a 4 bolt 454 block. Sounded great, until a couple years later found a bunch of welding evidence in the water jacket. Live n learn!
That grill is SUPERB. The individual pans for everything, double air intakes, man what a look.
I remember when I was a kid all our school buses were those old chevys and fords with 366s and the fords had 370s. They both had a unique sound for sure.
The cranks in the 366 are very good steel induction hardened,
that’s all that’s useful in those engines.
Mark Shane Yeah, just take a 366 crank and stick it in a 396. My father did that in the old days and it was basically a forged crank upgrade. 💪🏼👍🏼
I had a '69 C60 short frame dump with same engine and a Fisher snow plow in 1992! I wish I had it still for all these years...
A) My dad had a 70 C70 tractor with tall block 427.
2) A guy outside of Lisbon Ohio had put a 73 style C50ish front clip on his 4X4. Looked good with the exception of the busy paint job.
Yes I have heard of the 366 big block, I worked on many of them with my dad as a kid.
Neighbor has a 1963 c60 with a 292 straight 6. The thing is a tank. It starts right up after a few pumps on the gas pedal and easily handles anything we throw in the back. It has a 2 speed rear end and can only go 45 mph but it's incredibly useful.
Have a 366 in my 1983 C30. Sounds amazing with 3 inch straight pipe stacks
So nice listening to someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
Wow, that was cool! Love those Chevys style, never heard of a 366 before, and the presentation was seriously flawless!
I bored a 366 120 over and decked the block used a regular 396 cast intake it’s a beast!!
A buddy has a same year C60 dumper currently under fix. Has the offered and numbers matching 327 sb in it. Also was avail with a 283ci sb. Braking systems on those are sketchy bigtime!!. DON'T LOAD HEAVY!. Complete Power steering setups are rare as hens teeth,,but they were offered and worked reasonably well. Still can get pumps and 1500psi 4gpm boxes for them. Both with a regular PS box and also a ram helper steer setup on the drag link,,and some had both,,to be able to steer the brick.
My first truck was a Tonka Dump truck so hell yes I loved this episode!
tall deck height also allows better rod to stroke ratio and the small bore allows for better air fuel mixing. Extra piston ring also is sweet and I bet there is more coolant around those cylinder walls. Can get good fuel mileage for the motor size and longevity at high load and RPM's. I never heard of that size. I have heard of the tall deck height 427's. Pretty cool. Dump trucks rule, especially Chevrolet ones.
366 rods are standard length.
From having owned a few 366 I can say without a doubt they are legendary for durability.Also many parts will interchange between 366,396,427 and 454,things like gaskets,fuel pumps and exhaust manifolds and headers.There were also later models that featured TBI which was a drastic improvement over the Carter and later Quadrajet offerings.
There were also models designed to run on Propane,which of you can find one will usually be near virgin internally even if they have stacks of miles on them.
Very informative...thank you Roadkill
I remember riding in my uncle bobs ‘72 c50 with a straight 6. I remember once telling him “ This is a cool truck” as I picked hay out of the arm rest, and he replied “ Well it’s just a ole farm truck” and now I love 67-72 chev trucks
I drove a water truck in the orange groves during the hot FL summers with the 366 as a kid. I never changed the oil and it idled all day. It never ran hot and always cranked in the morning.
I love your videos they are so cool and you helped me start up my 1960 mustang
Finally mentions the 366... Love them for torque
3J Kreklau check out my 366 in my 69 C10 rat rod, they don t make big HP but crazy torque.
i love that guys back yard. For the trucks and the view!
These were good old workhorse trucks. Drove a lot of them back in the early 70's hauling grain, feed and fertilizer.
Great video. Weren't these engines built at the Tonawonda engine plant in NY? Seems like I remember seeing that badge on 366 equipped trucks..... A factory I worked in 30 years ago had a large amount of paper trim from the automated dies they used to cut products out of, and they bought a 1969 GMC garbage truck to collect the trim with. It had tandem rears, and I believe the equivalent of a C-70. It had a factory 427 with a huge Holle double pumper, a hi rise cast intake and a very pleasing slightly lopey idle. That engine was a beast. It ran out in an old school power glide 2 spd. , And it shifted so hard it'd set you back in the seat hitting 2 nd. Torque was unbelievable.
David is the best dude on this channel.
I had a 366 tall deck in my square body S10 blazer mud truck in high school. It was propane powered and awesome!
We had 60 series plow trucks at the town highway dept I worked for. All of them had the 366. It was a torgue monster.
I love the Chevy pickup in the background!
Thanks for the video. Thats a totaly sweet material hauler.
With the 427 tall deck, you can still Bore it out 100 to make a torque monster build.
the beauty of the 427 tall deck (spotted by the ability to slip your thumb's width between the water pump mounting and the top of the block/bottom of the cylinder head) was the ability--back in the days before aftermarket blocks--of slipping a stroker crank into that taller crankcase and clearing the cam lobes. If you didn't want to bore out a passenger block until you saw water, you went with a tall deck. And I think the crate 572 cid use a taller deck block.
I bet Dave's wife liked hearing the end.
Thanks for the info that I didn't know that I wanted to know...
Great episode.
My dad use drive an old C70 dump truck with a 366, 5speed 2speed axle, single axle with a pony axle(lift axle). That truck would scale 16 tons, hauling loads after loads of asphalt a day. It was very reliable.
My grandpa has a '72 GMC C60. It's just a small block, but it's still a cool truck.
Thumbs up for the stuby nose idea, I have always dreamed of a bobbed nose gmt400!!!
My uncle gave me a bunch of these.he was a school bus mechanic. He also had the 427s you speak of. We ran them in Chevy wheelers.
Just what you need around the house
Does anyone else hate the fact that he probably has forgotten more about cars than anyone of us will ever know? And by "hate", I mean I'm completely envious of his knowledge.
We used to have an old 69 fire engine in our station with a 366. Was a cool truck. Miss that thing...
I had a 366 in my C20 pick up truck. Was my daily for years. Got decent milage when it was geared right.
I have a 366 in my 40’ Blue Bird RE bus. Originally I was disappointed. But did my homework and the 366 is actually an awesome engine for its use. It’s actually pretty powerful, but even more important it can withstand abuse. Oh. Also. It moves my 25,000lb bus 75mph on the freeway. I love it!
I'd daily it.
Lucas Arthurs I own the exact thing and they are cool to look at but terrible to drive
I daily a 86' with a 18 foot bed and a 366
Me too! That dump truck looks awesome!
Lot's of old school bus's had the same 366, and old grain trucks were also fitted with a 366. The 366 had HP, but the Torque was Awesome.
One of the best Extras.
I love GMC and Chevy trucks. I currently have a 2000 GMC 3500HD one-ton dually with a 7.4/454 Vortec. It was the last year for the 454 and the first year for 4-wheel disc brakes. It was formerly a government vehicle and had only 42,000 original miles when I bought it last year. I have some plans for that beast.
Beautiful truck and beautiful landscape!
I had a 1978 C50 flat bed with a 350 that I bought just because it was cheap. Had to sell it. Sure do miss it! I pass these old beautys all the time working in rural areas, I just dont have anywhere to park them!
Holy crap, that view from that property!!
The second most interesting thing about that truck is it looks to me that it's equipped with factory air conditioning,, which is highly unusual for commercial vehicles in that era...
Beautiful Chevy!
Good info Dave! Thanks !
I could listen to Freiburger talk about random engine facts all day everyday.
The chevy trucks also came with the big block V6's they are so good I wish I could find one now to build up they had the plaid valve covers and looked so cool.
I believe those were GMC only.
Those shorty trucks also make excellent tow vehicles, both with standard hitch and a gooseneck trailer. Adjust the rear spring rates to suit and they last forever and will pull any trailer you could ever want.
Woah, an air conditioned cab at that. A/C was still uncommon in the 1967-72 C/K10-30, almost unheard of in the C40-60.
I have 2 of them, a 68 C60 with 366 and a 69 C60 with 427, still running, good trucks.
Mr. Freiburger is so freaking cool! Buy roadkill extra guys, you know you want to!
I knew about the 366CI big block My God I need a life!!!
Some of these c50 trucks came with large journal 327 small blocks also.
We have one.
Those things are dope. I wouldn't mind dailying one.
I built a 366 truck engine, thumper cam, timing gear set, 454 intake and headers. plus a lot of other things. It's in a 69 C 10 rat rod.
I like the cab over
I used to have a 69 C50 Dumper, but it had a cattle rack on it. I loaned it to a guy to haul some rocks on, and he broke the frame in half somehow while dumping. So I sold it to him for $100 (it was pretty thrashed anyway). He welded the frame back together and as far as I know still uses it.
My 1st job as Design Engineer was at GM Truck and coach Bldg 33 in Pontiac Mi.
(Swingshift)
I kept a flock of 9 366 chevy's running for a siesmic drilling company. the used a fleet of them little chevy truckswith tandem suspentions and 5/4 trans in them. they are a super tough motor, but there was a couple guys i swear were there to prove they could destroy one.
We have one of the old TopKick dump trucks and it's a strictly propane 350ci Chevy. Absolutely crap for climbing hills, but nothing seems to be able to stop it. Also somehow manages to turn on a dime.
This guy. He knows things.
There are a few guys here in Spokane using these for custom trucks and they look mind-blowing. Check Rtech Fabrications to see one of these done up also with a custom made 4 door cab.
I like the small back glass section used on dumps, cut em out for small trucks
Alot of good info!
I love those old dump trucks.
I live that blue gray jeep wagoneer in the background...
awesome truck my family has a 1969 chevy c50 shorty but its a tow truck and im pretty sure it has a 350 v8 in it. my grandpa bought it new in 1969 and it currently has just shy of 17,000 original miles!
nice chevy dump truck
VENIMUZ_COBRA yea it's a cute truck
TheBikemaster94 yup
You forgot about a difference in the cabs, medium/heavy truck cabs had a flat floor with no transmission tunnel. And they were all small rear windows. Even the 73-87 body style trucks had small rear windows which is really cool.
I own a 89 c7000 dump truck and a 92 kodiak dump truck. Both have a 366. I haul 9 ton all over the mountains. Not speed demons but they can haul. Both of mine top out at 60-65. Very rarely have an issue.
The cab trick for 4 wheel drives works on most trucks from the 50's thru the 80's from ford , chevy and dodge it was so much cheaper for auto makers to use the same cab for all of there truck models but the only ones I have ever seen used are on the big ford 4 wheel drives in florida we have it made because there street legal with 44s and they look so good with the big factory fenders.
What a coincidence. My dad just told me about 366 big blocks today. He apparently drove a few of these.
Wow Freiburger is an encyclopedia of motoring knowledge.
I just bought from a junkyard a really clean 1976,66 passenger, GMC 6000 Bus for 800 bucks with an automatic and air brakes that has this motor in it and drove it 25 miles at about 55mph (its top speed)and then up a tight/twisting/steep dirt road at night.
It's completely empty of everything except for the drivers seat and dash but has bamboo flooring from one end to the other and not 1 Dent or scratch on the whole thing and no broken windows...... It has more Room in it then some apartments I've lived in!!!!!