Weak Big Block Chev • Wrong Parts + Poor Assembly = No Power!

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    The guy who bought this engine was told it would make 600 ponies. But when Nick put it on the dyno, it barely made half that. Now he is going to tear into the big Chev to find out why.
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  • @poptartmcjelly7054
    @poptartmcjelly7054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I love seeing badly built engines tested, taken apart and the mistakes explained. There's always that factor of surprise.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Feel badly for the customer though...

    • @michaelwillcutt2619
      @michaelwillcutt2619 ปีที่แล้ว

      I call that educational process when they don’t pay attention to the how to build engines in the manual

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      me to

  • @whitelightining7125
    @whitelightining7125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    Whoever built that motor just threw it together for a quick flip.Knowing they would have no trouble selling a BBC if it looked the part.They never expected anyone to put it on a dyno before they installed it.

    • @modelnutty6503
      @modelnutty6503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      yup.

    • @terryschnereger8531
      @terryschnereger8531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      We need to call these guys out!!

    • @whitelightining7125
      @whitelightining7125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@terryschnereger8531 I would be going back to who I got that motor from and giving them two options either 1) giving me all my money back and they keep the motor . Or 2) give me back at least half if not more of the money I paid and I keep the motor. Then you tell everyone you know not to do business with them.
      I'm a Mopar guy but this is the kind of stuff we all need to watch each others back and expose the scumbags who try to screw us over. No matter what you drive.

    • @aaronhumphrey2009
      @aaronhumphrey2009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@whitelightining7125 agreed. Nick should tear it down and do a full race rebuild if the owner expects to get 600 HP out of the big block. Those heads are excellent,but who installed the pistons 180• wrong ? Needs a better cam,too.

    • @andrewh9613
      @andrewh9613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You’d be crazy not to, paying big block dollars for an engine that’s claimed to be 600 hp,forget it.too many shysters out there

  • @lskiller1903
    @lskiller1903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    When I purchase engines from anyone in the private sector, I use a cheap bore scope that hooks to my phone. It will tell you if a engine has flat tops, you can easily look at the valve train, you can check to see the bottom end, or see if a engine has four bolt mains (if that's the claim). It's quick and easy, and if the seller doesn't want to let you investigate well that tells the whole story anyway. Another great video Nick thanks.

    • @michaelwilkening8542
      @michaelwilkening8542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can get one for under $20 and I agree with you 100%.

    • @lskiller1903
      @lskiller1903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelwilkening8542 👍

    • @erickroberts5172
      @erickroberts5172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What motor are you using?',; calling yoself the LS killer???????

    • @erickroberts5172
      @erickroberts5172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What motor is you using calling yoself a LS killer',?; lol another GM Hater man smh The kings of HP still running things lol

    • @javonsumpter9678
      @javonsumpter9678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      From the moment nick said flat tapped cam, that's a big problem out the gate, plus rust that's literally blocking air too go into the rectangular ports, another problem,then them pistons 😳,if you planning on drag racing with that current set up your losing every last race ,period‼ even against some one on a skateboard

  • @lucascb750
    @lucascb750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    ahh I love "those engine builders", the ones that calculate hp based on adding up the box tops...

    • @7REDDRACO7
      @7REDDRACO7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      iguess they figured it was half way there, lol. well some smaller chambers or reverse dome pistons would do the trick along with a bigger cam and 175 to 190 ish psi. oh and port matching and head work. etc. etc. the list goes on and on don't it.

    • @iambrandon7280
      @iambrandon7280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's why I put stickers on my cars ... +5 hp per sticker.

    • @7REDDRACO7
      @7REDDRACO7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jason Davis why?

    • @kittty2005
      @kittty2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jason Davis As a young man I had a friend who was a retired Air Force engineer who was in on the testing of F-4 phantom engines for the Black bird project,he said the standard phantom engine produced 30,000 horse power with different fuel they could achieve 175,000 hp. Now the fuel he told me was good for extremely high altitude flight,the three key components: first was a thing I think he was mumbling to protect secrecy it sounded stupid furfall alcohol,second hydrazine, third aniline oil to control burn-rate,he was retired and had 2 hobbies fishing and flying his P-51 Mustang,he was a great man loved to listen to his stories.

    • @kittty2005
      @kittty2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      One thing I left out the whatever alcohol and hydrazine would detonate when in contact with each other so the need for the aniline oil.

  • @chubbychicken5585
    @chubbychicken5585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    It is a 600hp* BBC. The seller just forgot to tell the buyer that it requires a 300 shot of NOS ( not included )

  • @hyttenrunen
    @hyttenrunen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    obviously he had the engine laying next to the car for so long, all the horses ran away

  • @americafirstmaga5073
    @americafirstmaga5073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    "Headers, High rise intake, 4 barrel Carb, a new mild cam, one see through distributor cap and new plugs..""
    "6 new parts × 100hp = 600hp"" 👏😕😂

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Anyone who knows anything knows the clear caps are junk....thats the sign of a noob

    • @andrewjenkins879
      @andrewjenkins879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      8.0:1 CR lol

    • @ToxicMisfitsYt
      @ToxicMisfitsYt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Notime ForFakeNews don’t forget 4 bolts main you have to add it by that

    • @americafirstmaga5073
      @americafirstmaga5073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ToxicMisfitsYt + 400 = 1000hp 😮 😄😂

    • @mikewillett5076
      @mikewillett5076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andrewjenkins879. Probably not even 8:1. I was guessing low 7s compression.

  • @knunyabeasewhacks8744
    @knunyabeasewhacks8744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I became a mechanic in 1998. This man is living my dream.

  • @stlchucko
    @stlchucko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I guess this shows that it’s really hard to not make some power with a BBC. Low compression, tiny cam, big rectangle port open chamber heads, and a single plane and it still made 366hp. It literally had everything working against it.
    A set of closed chamber oval ports and dual plane and it’d be a nice torquey motor. Dome pistons and a bigger cam and it’d be a fire breather. Either way and perform way better than when it arrived.

  • @lindasmith614
    @lindasmith614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Reminiscent of the 1980s.Every 350 chevy made 400 horse even when it was a 305 from a 1978 Caprice.

    • @grabasandwich
      @grabasandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And they were all "Corvette LT1's" with a rock-crusher M22 🙄 glad the LS has taken over. It's crazy what power guys are making on junkyard 4.8s with a turbo lol

    • @troydietrich5233
      @troydietrich5233 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The typical backyard Chevy boy from the 90s.

    • @kingsamson9146
      @kingsamson9146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is how it is in Germany. Dude drives a pos 1980 Parisienne Wagon with high jackers and a 350HP 350 - I mean, it has a Holley carb and cherry bombs! smh

    • @kanethompson708
      @kanethompson708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

    • @jasonconklin8172
      @jasonconklin8172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was not 1 400 factory hp 350. in early 80s not 1

  • @cactuscanuck6802
    @cactuscanuck6802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    105 psi compression? I've had farts with more pressure than that

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      badcactus72 taco Bell helps get you to 120psi

    • @cactuscanuck6802
      @cactuscanuck6802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@spankthemonkey3437 lmao! I'll take that under advisement, but I'm scared to blow out an o-ring!

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      badcactus72 yea that rear main seal is important you don't want to slip and fall

    • @Backyardmech1
      @Backyardmech1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’ve had coffee give me a higher compression than that.

    • @williamescolantejr5871
      @williamescolantejr5871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      use a jalepeno spray injector to get to 170psi with them tacos

  • @CheezyDee
    @CheezyDee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    At least it was actually rebuilt... could have been an old motorhome engine with 100K on it and the only thing keeping the rods from knocking is the 10 pounds of sludge in the crankcase.

    • @TheMEXICANBEEF
      @TheMEXICANBEEF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That was my thought too. A set of dome pistons should bring that engine to life. Annoying to have to tear down the engine again but not a huge deal with it being out of the car when bought.

    • @kittty2005
      @kittty2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @TheMEXICANBEEF Avoid the hassle set the timing 42 btdc buy some MOROSO octane booster if you can still find it if not go to your chemical supply house and get some aniline oil just don't get it on you,you'll get dizzy fall down and die of respiratory arrest,mix that one quart to 10 gallons of 93 octane,hell throw a gallon of toluene with that too,you may even want to try different mixes with e-85 get that virtual compression ratio up and then you'll have a rompin stompin wamma jamma untill it goes bye bye,poof!

    • @michaelstrafello8025
      @michaelstrafello8025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At least it wasn't a krylon rebuild with it paint it ship it lol

    • @OldGriz708
      @OldGriz708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I prefer the 454's out of motorhomes. I build them for demolition derbies. Even the hated peanut port heads work great for a torque build.

  • @John900C
    @John900C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    These insights into your shop are a valuable source of knowledge as well as great entertainment for us Tubers. Thank you for being so free with your experience and showing how working life can be a gas with the right attitude. Like others say, take care of yourselves and work safely. You would be missed by many if you were injured. Good to see Vacily wearing gloves when handing oily parts.

  • @davidingling9791
    @davidingling9791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    That guy got ripped off! Man I like that roadrunner

  • @im1sinfulman
    @im1sinfulman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU NICK, I HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW, I WAS TAUGHT BY MY FATHER, KNOW I KNOW HE DID A MICKEY MOUSE REPAIR, BUT WATCHING YOU, HAS BEEN A LEARNING EXPERIENCE, AGAIN, "THANK YOU".

  • @HammerHeadGarage
    @HammerHeadGarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    There is always a reason an engine is sitting. If it was healthy and made big power it would be in a car. People don't let too many high-performance engines sit around guys. Great video Nick!

    • @SophiaAphrodite
      @SophiaAphrodite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I disagree. Most budget builders will do their builds in stages. They either build the engine first or build the car. Life happens, things change, health fails. This is even more so for people on a strict budget. That window gets bigger because vudgets are smaller and is more prone to life disruptions. Mistakes are made from ignorance and not doing homework and desperation to complete the job. A flipper sellsa fresh engine with cheap parts. Not an engine just sitting for awhile.

    • @caclark7600
      @caclark7600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not always the case I have a new Ls 7 454 still in crate that I bought in the 70s to install in my Ls 5 corvette still have both 55k on vette

    • @kramnull8962
      @kramnull8962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@caclark7600 Damn you don't go to the garage and just day dream about what that thing sounds like?

  • @bigmikeh
    @bigmikeh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Glad to hear you didn't get hurt too bad Nick - everyone would really miss your videos. Good thing us old time hot rod guys are tough! Keep the faith and keep building good lumps!!!

  • @jimmyraythomason1
    @jimmyraythomason1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    It's like my electronics instructor told us at the beginning. "You will spend more time fixing what others have messed up than fixing the original problem". After 40 years in automotive maintenance he was proven right over and over. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't stand when someone monkeyed with float level because it's not running right , and you end up finding the real problem , and then have to fix the float level.
      Keep the paws off the float level!

    • @killsalltires156
      @killsalltires156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right. He come fix this job some fawked. Up. Ok. That gonna cost you double. I have to undo someone else fawk up and do over again.

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Nick and of course George the Super Camera Guy...WOW how good is he..... For the...update video...!

  • @mikeakerman768
    @mikeakerman768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did a 454 for a farmer's truck one time, it came in with a very slight rod ticking. So o tore it down resized the rods at machine shop. When installing them one piston was on rod backwards. Had to take it back to be pressed off and turned around. If I wouldn't have caught it . It probably wouldn't make 100 miles without ruining crank and who knows what else. You have to stay focused. Not everyone can throw it together. Good job Nick.

  • @nunyabizznizz7326
    @nunyabizznizz7326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    love watching people who know what they are doing....

  • @djmech3871
    @djmech3871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What I like about Nick is that he works on everything. Ford, Chevy or Chrysler all cool muscle Cars.

    • @NicksGarage
      @NicksGarage  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right on!

    • @coreyslusher740
      @coreyslusher740 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They got my sub!! Definitely seem like awesome people.

  • @1967lathrop
    @1967lathrop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nick is a great example of a guy who loves what he does so work is enjoyable. Thank you sir for the great content.

  • @iamnoone.
    @iamnoone. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Nick shall bring the power forth. Nick bumped his head and made the flux capacitor.

    • @michaelstansfield319
      @michaelstansfield319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But not with those pistons, maybe not the cam either. I dunno, this engine build looks more like lipstick on a pig rather than a serious build.

  • @b.g.yodagrow5344
    @b.g.yodagrow5344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Tha car that cut Nick's eye AUTOMATICALLY gained 40hp!👍🙏

  • @mikepotter5071
    @mikepotter5071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We used to have a standard rotating engine and a counter rotating engine in boats. The screws have to turn outboard of each other or the boat will run terrible. Chrysler got out of Marine. GM and Ford stopped building counter turning engines. Marine gear builders picked up the counter turning screw in the gear. Chris Craft used gear to gear with their counter turning chevys.
    The lobes on the cam were ground to provide 12756348 firing order. The pistons in small blocks were put on the rods backwards to compensate for the outboard piston skirt beating on the walls. Big blocks could not do that because the valves hit the pistons. Closed chamber heads were used. Breathing is not the thing in Marine. Long stroke low rpm is. Other differences included reverse ribbing on front and rear main seals. Standard ribbing on a reverse engine will suck the oil right out. Chrysler used slashes on the rear seal surface for the cranks. That had to be machines backwards too. Starter drives engaged backwards. Their drive teeth were machined backwards. Fields wound to spin backwards. I was there, that’s how it was, that’s what I got to say about that.

    • @nickpanaritis4122
      @nickpanaritis4122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mike. So one of two marine engines is all backwards. Interesting. Thanks for the info Mike.

  • @tres2112
    @tres2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love watching videos like these. They're mesmerizing because I don't understand one thing Nick is trying to explain but just the same, "oddly satisfying".

  • @pontiacgrandprix733
    @pontiacgrandprix733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That 427 is similar to if you jumped in the sack with one of the Kardashians, and she just laid there, looks like it’s gonna rock your world but not even a tremor

  • @ajw6715
    @ajw6715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Back when I was in the Air force I ran into a similar deal. A man had a 396 SS chevelle. He rebuild it and it would not turn completely over. He thought about towing it and decided to ask my opinion. Well I went to his home and we removed the heads. The pistons were 12.5 to 1 and were installed wrong and we also found a rag left in under the intake. He reinstalled the pistons correctly and removed the rag put it all back together and it run fine. No one is perfect and hast makes waste. When the work is hard and the wages are low take you time and go quite slow. Lol.

  • @murrayandru7527
    @murrayandru7527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    V is for valiant, the way you approach life!
    A is for accountable, someone to be counted on
    S is for serene, your calm time.
    I is for inventor, how many things will you create?
    L is for little, the little things you do.
    L is for laughter, you spread wherever you go.
    E is for enthusiasm, in even the most dire circumstances

  • @williamnewman962
    @williamnewman962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love it..You are a model for all shops...No B.S. Down to earth facts....No large Ego that I can see! just know your business! Wish you were closer!

  • @graymodeler
    @graymodeler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If I remember correctly the base 427 in 1967 was 390 hp. This was a mild street able engine used in Impalas, Corvettes etc. it used hi test leaded gas. Using the flat top Pistons would allow today's regular pump gas. I think the geared cam may also be ground to turn the other way unless it has idlers like the old Jackson setup. This engine is a mess of incompatible parts.

  • @Kraals
    @Kraals 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That 70 Road Runner brings back a lot of memories. I bought one when I returned from Southeast Asia in 1970.

  • @vhp454
    @vhp454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Gear drives on a bbc is a no no. There only good to 6000rpm, a double roller chain or belt drive is much better !
    Check the cam also , some people have no clue about engines or BBC.
    A 427 L-88 revved easily to 7200 and had 7/16 pushrods not 3/8. And GM bbc square port heads can build 600 hp very easy. A Edelbrock dual plane rpm intake works well. 850 cfm holley is also a good choice. Try using a first design L-88 solid lifter cam. Get compression up to atleast 11.0 valve springs need updated also.most of this and good machine work should wake the dead out of it, but you are the man Nick.
    Love your channel Nick

  • @johnnyzonta5173
    @johnnyzonta5173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nick's garage.........episode uploaded Monday has 109,880 views, great job to Nick and George. .....CONGRATS

  • @brunotulliani
    @brunotulliani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Used engines are like a box of chocolates, you just don't know what your're going to get. Great episode and take care. Didn't forget the cannoli and espresso.

    • @dinojay8410
      @dinojay8410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And remember ... I don't want to see Pauley anymore either! 😉😀

    • @wallacegrommet9343
      @wallacegrommet9343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One espresso and cannoli for me, please

    • @brunotulliani
      @brunotulliani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wallacegrommet9343 No problem Sir! I will even throw in a Toscano cigar with a single malt. If you are ever in the Great White North!

  • @highlysuggestible861
    @highlysuggestible861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never fail to learn something important with every episode. Cheers, Nick!

  • @waynebollentin989
    @waynebollentin989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    While it was a 454. It still had the factory heads with hand port job. Motor was rebuilt by DRE with his custom hydraulic roller, flat top piston with 10.1 cp and made 606hp on pumped gas with no timing really in it. Soft tune. You can make power when it's built correctly. This video shows what happens when people don't have a clue. I mean really. The pistons installed upside down is just ridiculous.

  • @paintnamer6403
    @paintnamer6403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Take the little stainless rectangular cap off the door and or trunk lock and you will see the spring loaded brass pins that are different lengths. These are what the key pushes up to make the lock able to turn. I had extra Mopar locks from junkers and swapped around the pins so I had a one key Fury.

  • @OldManRoo
    @OldManRoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So good to see that you're training the next generation of classic muscle car mechanics like Vassily. I'd also love an update on Vassily's girlfriend's race car performances.

  • @knunyabeasewhacks8744
    @knunyabeasewhacks8744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The small valve springs was a give a way, but the installing the Pistons with the mark "backwards" is a tell tale sign of a unexercised build.

  • @twinturbocoyoteftw
    @twinturbocoyoteftw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Back in the day I've turned some 4 valve relief 302 pistons backwards. Since most don't know if it has an offset wristpin instead of centered it will pull the piston further and hang at tdc longer. Worked flawlessly for years! This was not the case for this 454!!!! The 302 had 200lbs compression and made around 400hp with junky iron heads lol!!!!

    • @Shamilt3
      @Shamilt3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dodge engines like the piston flip too

  • @markwallace5274
    @markwallace5274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Wow that’s hard to watch as an engine builder I just wanna see that Big Block Chevy built correctly with the right combo and back on the dyno 🤦‍♂️

  • @clarebutterfield6927
    @clarebutterfield6927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The Road Runner is gorgeous!

    • @stephenmiller7388
      @stephenmiller7388 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly how hard is itbbto put pistons in the proper way round im, no expet but have put a few donksbtogether all i do isvread and follow all the instructions properlyand thisnnwas b4u tubeb or watever

  • @crankysports
    @crankysports 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hope your eye heals quickly! Another great Monday Morning with Nick's garage.

  • @ernestdougherty3162
    @ernestdougherty3162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you want to know the truth bring it to Nick's garage. If you want it to run right and make the right horsepower bring it to Nick He's the man. when it comes old school Great job, Nick, and that's a beautiful Road Runner. I can't. Going down the road. Be safe.

  • @freetdg
    @freetdg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember testing the compression on my 1969 BelAir 427, 425HP in early 1970. It blew up my compression tester.

  • @datasailor8132
    @datasailor8132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A friend of mine had a BB Chevy custom built for his street racer '70 Camaro. Took the engine straight to a dyno man like Nick's customer did and it too didn't make horsepower. Turns out the engine builder was doing two BBs at the same time. The other one was for a truck to haul the customer's boat requiring a completely different engine. In the build process some parts got mixed and neither guy got what he wanted. The builder made things right on his dime so everything turned out OK in the end. As President Reagan used to say, "Trust but verify."

  • @fw1421
    @fw1421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’m seriously in lust with that Road Runner!❤️❤️❤️

  • @danw1955
    @danw1955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Heh heh, engines like this 454 crack me up! I had a customer back in the mid-80's that bought a pretty nice looking '66 Fairlane with a supposedly 'built' 302. Poor guy couldn't seem to get it past 4200 without breaking up, and after changing out the coil, spark plugs, new carburetor, etc., he finally brought it to me to see what was going on. It sounded great at idle. Nice lumpy cam, roller rockers hiding under pretty chrome valve covers... *on top of stock worn out Ford valve springs and retainers!* It had *maybe* 100 lbs. of compression across the board, and I notified the owner, and he said to pull the engine and see how bad off the rest was. The cam and lifters were probably the best part of the whole engine, along with an antiquated Mallory dual-point distributor, and an almost brand-new set of Hedman Headers. The rest of the engine was essentially bone stock, with typical small port 302 heads, and stock pistons. We ended up using it for a core and got a 347c.i. long-block (stroker crate motor), equipped it with late model ECC IV electronic ignition and a high output coil, and turned that sickly Fairlane into a 370 hp. tire melter that still got fairly decent gas mileage. Not too bad for around $2500 back in the day.😉

    • @danw1955
      @danw1955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Paradoxical Nightmare LOL, no doubt!😁

  • @brenthill3241
    @brenthill3241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Those heads are made for a radical cam, high lift rockers and 12 to 1 compression with a short block capable of turning at least 7500 rpm.
    This is not for a stock BB short block with those tight main bearing clearances.
    Cheapest is to put some good cleaned up stock oval port heads with a good valve job, a good aftermarket chain and sprocket and a more realistic manifold that will give more low lift flow.

  • @ebeaulieu813
    @ebeaulieu813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One place I worked the boss had a TOP NOTCH ENGINE BUILDER assemble his marine 454 Chevy's. The top notch tech the boss's friend was putting the rod caps on backwards.

  • @darylnicklen3685
    @darylnicklen3685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Being such a perfectionist Nick is why your cars come out so Brilliantly. You and your team turn out perfect product. Little Aussie Follower ....

  • @mariorabottini5687
    @mariorabottini5687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Nick and to all! 12.15 am here in Melbourne Australia and the coffee’s hot.....enjoying your channel!

  • @RedEyedPatriot
    @RedEyedPatriot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't wait for the new pistons and cam...nick will have that BBC pushin 5to600 soon

  • @Uppercut314
    @Uppercut314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What amazed me was, hearing that seeing the pistons were installed 180* off! It’s a wonder the valves made it through the combustion process without major damage! WOW 😳

  • @kramnevets8712
    @kramnevets8712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “And see the truth”
    Realty always bats last.
    This is good stuff,thanks.

  • @MrJeffcoley1
    @MrJeffcoley1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It is a good thing those flat top pistons didn’t have the compression height to strike those valves.

  • @tomcooper6108
    @tomcooper6108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Nick! Good video on the Missing HP.

  • @mpccenturion
    @mpccenturion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A 427 chev. My dad had a 65 Strata Chief. That was the name I recall. 4 sp. Some fella bought it new and drag-raced at a local track in New Brunswick. Dad redid the engine and a decal remove. When done, it never looked like the tiger it was. The 3 pedals and the Hurst button for the brakes was the only give-away. Cheers! and Thank You.

  • @permagrin8742
    @permagrin8742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good thing that was a small cam with the intake reliefs on the wrong side of the cylinder. Bad juju when pistons kiss valves.
    Hopefully the 427 owner wants to pony up and have Nick build that 427 right. Be awesome to put those heads to work!

  • @hensleyshobbies-doug7761
    @hensleyshobbies-doug7761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That’s a darn shame about that Big Block Chevy 427, but that just goes to show you some guys are not the mechanic that they think they are! Geez! It’s a good thing that customer brought it to you Nick, I know you’ll get that big Chevy lined out and doing what it’s suppose too! 👍👍

  • @manuelsilva2746
    @manuelsilva2746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm from a little town in United States called Taft, California. I love watching your videos. Please keep your videos coming and I will continue to watch them. Have a nice day. Nick

    • @xmo552
      @xmo552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got plowed by CHP there. Plowed with a ticket for vroom vroom.

  • @thomasjefferson2938
    @thomasjefferson2938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for addressing my question from your first live stream in this video. 70 roadrunner only runner up to my favorite the 71.

  • @GeekBoyMN
    @GeekBoyMN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The phrase "sold a bill of goods" comes to mind with that 427. Can't wait to see what you guys do with it!

  • @barryobler9491
    @barryobler9491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Besides the fact that the pistons were installed wrong, did you check deck height? Luckily the cam is small and the intake valve apparently didn't hit the piston. Clearly the engine needs to come apart, check everything, and make some changes if the customer wants to make some power. Good thing it got checked before putting it in the car.

  • @johnsmith-qz4bv
    @johnsmith-qz4bv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    well the guy that put that 427BBC together didnt know what he was doing....great video

  • @MrAntoniocain
    @MrAntoniocain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys are a joy to watch. To the point and simple language. A lot of these videos are more talk than do. Glad I found you guys. Keep up the great show.....

  • @Shane-Singleton
    @Shane-Singleton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well the good news is that all it should take is a new set of pistons and a new cam to get where he wants (and better valve springs, etc. to support a higher lift cam because the ones that are in there obviously can't support the lift of that small cam). Seems pretty obvious that whomever put that engine together didn't do the math up front to get the right components to get their compression ratio where it needed to be. I'll bet they didn't even measure the combustion chamber volume of those heads. Which, seeing how the pistons were put in backwards, doesn't surprise me.

  • @jaysonmcduck5476
    @jaysonmcduck5476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lucky that engine came to Nicks so it can be done right

  • @gadget73
    @gadget73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for making the keys right. It drives me nuts when the keys do not match like they should.

  • @91rss
    @91rss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    used to be a mod to stop power valve issues. you gave a passage seat a mark with a phillips screwdriver to put a cross mark in it, then you put a small bearing in over it. apparently if a back fire happens, the ball gets pushed into the seat, but the X mark you made keeps it from sticking in place?

  • @olympia67
    @olympia67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you and have a great week! 😘

  • @SealofPerfection
    @SealofPerfection 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I would say Merlin heads are probably too big for a street 427 unless it's a high revver. World makes some Merlin oval ports that would easily produce that 600hp number and more torque for the street with the right compression and cam.
    Edit: Upon watching this again, that's a tall deck block. So someone slapped some big port heads on a tall deck block. Okay, but you have to have the right pistons for it. I wonder if someone put short deck pistons in it as well? They are awfully far down in the hole.
    STROKER ENGINE TIME!!

    • @modelnutty6503
      @modelnutty6503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yup, similar thoughts. its assembled wrong for starters, piston+rings on wrong, wrong intake.. 366 ponies should be a bit higher, but the 125 compression range (lower ratio) could be good for normal driving, spraying when you want big power

    • @stanherman5604
      @stanherman5604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can make 600Hp with oval port heads. Those heads are way to big as is the intake and carb.

    • @Yohann67
      @Yohann67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bet you could wire that Dominators secondaries shut and still make the same HP.

    • @WoodedAcres
      @WoodedAcres 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@modelnutty6503 Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about either. Probably, friends with the guy that built that motor. The 125 figure that Nick found was a cranking compression test in POUNDS using a compression tester. Nothing to do with compression ratio. While I would like to see around 140-160+lbs, it's more important that all cylinders are within that 5% number. If there are 7 cylinders showing 150lbs and one cylinder showing 125lbs, there is most likely a problem there.

    • @DWBmotorsports
      @DWBmotorsports 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love when guys say rectangle ports are not good street heads 😂

  • @jimjungle1397
    @jimjungle1397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the biggest electrical issues with classic Mopars is the ignition power wires, to and from the switch, are very long. The wires increases in resistance over time , the connections get old and develop resistance and the contacts in the switch wear and increase in resistance. This can cause a drop in voltage to the ignition system and throughout the ignition system.

    • @NicksGarage
      @NicksGarage  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Jim. Sounds like you have spent some time in the wires.

    • @mcfast52
      @mcfast52 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You get that with old motorcycle to, see it a lot.

  • @andyanaoutdoors2487
    @andyanaoutdoors2487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thumbs up! A true professional.

  • @juancontre5858
    @juancontre5858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice work nick on that orange bird

  • @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
    @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful road runner.

  • @nomoremr.niceguy4778
    @nomoremr.niceguy4778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nick is the Colombo detective of muscle cars. Go Nick!

  • @spurgear4
    @spurgear4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Same as my 69 340 Swinger.
    1 key for the ignition.
    1 Key for the doors.
    And a key for the trunk.
    Someday I will get to it, maybe...

  • @kurtpoblenz2741
    @kurtpoblenz2741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Underpowered & big block Chevy always go together 😂😂😂😂

  • @Buffrt66
    @Buffrt66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks like it was put together with parts laying around the sellers shop. Got it running and got his money.

  • @ciaransynnott7958
    @ciaransynnott7958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that old guy strait forward and no what he is about

  • @GeoHvl
    @GeoHvl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love 1970 RR>X they are the most beautiful cars Plymouth ever made. The trunk wing is a distraction to the beauty of the Hemi Bird. My friend has a 2001 Prowler with a 2005 LS3 it is the sleeper from Hell. Beautiful also.

  • @daviddntait
    @daviddntait 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe it had 600hp with a 6-71 blower on top!? After all it did have flat top pistons to lower compression. I've put fla tops on purpose for that exact reason. Doubt that was the reason for this particular 427. At least they knew enough to put Merlin heads on it haha!

  • @rollydoucet8909
    @rollydoucet8909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    First of all, it's a tall-deck block, 10.200" deck height, probably from a dump truck. Flat-top pistons with Merlin heads, he lucky if it has 8-1 compression. The fact that the pistons are upside-down, and the intake valves aren't hitting says something about the cam, and that it's not very much. There's probably a lot more wrong with it, and Nick will find out once he sees the entire engine. I don't know why people don't do a bit more research before spending money on an engine build. We see a lot of this at our shop as well.

    • @HerculesRockefellerESQ
      @HerculesRockefellerESQ ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean.. if you're gonna run a 10.2 deck big chev, you might as well come out swinging with 632".

    • @rollydoucet8909
      @rollydoucet8909 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HerculesRockefellerESQ A Chevy truck block cannot be worked into a 632. Bores are too small.

    • @HerculesRockefellerESQ
      @HerculesRockefellerESQ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rollydoucet8909 it was a tongue in cheek remark. If you're gonna run a tall deck, might as well make it count.

    • @HerculesRockefellerESQ
      @HerculesRockefellerESQ ปีที่แล้ว

      @rollydoucet8909 for arguments sake, if you have a 427 TD truck block, with the right combo of parts, a sonic checked block, and a lot of time clearancing the crankcase fmor stroke, there is the potential for a roughly 550 cubic inch combo. But there are much more cost-effective ways to do it. Especially with how inexpensive some of the aftermarket stuff has gotten, by the time you consider how much screwing around you gotta do to make that combo work.

  • @yodaistheone
    @yodaistheone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Love how you say fix it right. I Repair tachographs.....and i always have to repair other people's fixes before i can actually repair the original faults that caused the instrument to fail .

  • @jamesrogers5783
    @jamesrogers5783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    its been a while, but i built a few of these that made 600hp and change with the small 2.19/1.78 valves and a solid flat tappet., we did have some good compression numbers from those 12.5 pistons right out of GMs racing bible of 1980 !!

  • @markpalio4411
    @markpalio4411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just Re-Tumble The Ignition To Match The Door Locks! As Far As The Chevy 427-I'm HOPING For 600HP With Mine And I'm Running ZL-1 .030 Repl Pistons(12.5-1), 074 ZL-1 Heads(Milled .020) W/2.25+1.88 Valves. GM 069 Intake And 850 Holley DP. Cam Set TBD. Think It's Got The Potential!

    • @nickpanaritis4122
      @nickpanaritis4122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark. The ignition key did not work with either door. Bought a new ignition cylinder because it did not want to go into accessory position. After that, coded both door locks to the new ignition cylinder.

    • @markpalio4411
      @markpalio4411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nickpanaritis4122 Understand What You Had To Do-However Just As Door Locks Can Be Re-Tumbled-So Can The Ignition Switch. Did It On My Chevelle. Found Unused GM Keys That Fit Door/Trunk Cylndrs, But Not Ignition Cyl. Now Have Orig 1968 Keys To My Car!

    • @nickpanaritis4122
      @nickpanaritis4122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markpalio4411 . I know.

  • @niceguy2171
    @niceguy2171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow, the things you find when you dig in an engine, 105 and 115 Cyl. compression, seen old lawnmowers do better than that,lol. Watch the overhead objects Nick, you don't need anymore knocks on the noggin' ;) Hope all is well in the shop on this fine day.

  • @smilsmff
    @smilsmff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    a .030 flat top with 119 cc merlin heads then you are lucky to get 8.00:1 with a thick Composite gasket adding 9 or more cc's, Just switch cam to mechanical roller 220 @ 50 , AND .675 Lift with 106 degrees LSA and advance it !!

  • @edvisme
    @edvisme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I pat myself on the back with this one. When you made that dyno pull, knowing it had those big M, big port heads, I knew it had flat tops in it. Upside down none the less lol! I'm a Chevy man through and through and had a few Big Blocks and many, high revving small blocks.. Gear Drive = Valve Train Vibrator.

  • @natelobo93
    @natelobo93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do like the clear distributor cap tho

  • @charlesaguilar1708
    @charlesaguilar1708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I Always build my own motors! I build them mecticuously! It may take a long time to finish but,they always perform and last!

  • @shawnewaltonify
    @shawnewaltonify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I look forward to these videos every Monday morning. Thank-you very much guys!

  • @jadajada405
    @jadajada405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this man is a legend

  • @Mitsuki_TheWolf174
    @Mitsuki_TheWolf174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This reminds me of the older dudes who take a 350 Chevy V8 and they repaint it orange and put an RV cam in it and then they tell all their buddies how it makes 500+ horsepower 🙄

  • @MontrealMan1970
    @MontrealMan1970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good time to brush-up on your chevolet big block i.d. numbers. Make sure you didn't get a truck 366! and ditch those hideous valve covers.

    • @grabasandwich
      @grabasandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts exactly! Those bores look awfully small, and the spacing/meat between them looks thicker than usual. I'm not am expert though

  • @jonathanbarnes9411
    @jonathanbarnes9411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    427 tall deck. Lol, saw that a mile away.

    • @grabasandwich
      @grabasandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was it the small bores?

    • @SealofPerfection
      @SealofPerfection 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grabasandwich Bores have nothing to do with it. A 427 TD has the same bore as a short deck or a 454.

    • @grabasandwich
      @grabasandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SealofPerfection I meant if it was a 366 which apparently has smaller bores. My bad.

  • @killsalltires156
    @killsalltires156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hahahaha 360hp. My 302 made that with a small cam and some TRickflow heads. Lol brutal.