Do tuners work on rimfire rifles?

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  • @DW-35
    @DW-35 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    From what ive seen and others report on them, they work the best on rimfire.

  • @DocJustinT
    @DocJustinT 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I started shooting smallbore rifle 30 years ago, there was a teammate of mine with a tuner on his Anschutz (I think it was a model 1907 if my memory is correct), so this tuner stuff is nothing new. It's impressive how well they work... but it's not new. 😁

  • @malcolmschuler91
    @malcolmschuler91 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would really like to see a video of how you went about adjusting your tuner settings and at what distance. Just got my new Vudoo from DI Precision with the EC Tuner and would like to start some testing and I trust your opinion and knowledge. Or if you could point me in the right direction it would be great. Thank you.

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve done some other tuner videos, but it’s on center fire and only a little bit of video with rimfire but in the next couple weeks, I’ll throw together a rimfire tuning video.

    • @malcolmschuler91
      @malcolmschuler91 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FClassJohn Awesome thank you!!

  • @paulmatthews2035
    @paulmatthews2035 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you have a good rifle, good technique, and have found a good batch of ammunition, they really do put the cherry on the top of the cake! My EC tuner has fine tuned my Vudoo using either RWS R50 or Lapua Midas +. As an aside I find the EC tuner v2 a vast improvement on the v1 and a worthwhile upgrade!

  • @PATAGONIAAIRGUNSCHILE
    @PATAGONIAAIRGUNSCHILE หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow this is amazing

  • @NMranchhand
    @NMranchhand หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would sure like to see a vid of the installation process. Did you make one, or does E. C. have one?

  • @Q454chevy
    @Q454chevy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What distance was this shot at?

  • @dirkkotze7550
    @dirkkotze7550 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is it repeatable? Also, what is the barrel profile?

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah it's repeatable but not in the way people expect. I'll do more videos on it soon. As for the barrel, it's a .9125 benchmark

    • @dirkkotze7550
      @dirkkotze7550 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FClassJohn I'm interested to see.

  • @haraldgeiger47
    @haraldgeiger47 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and what did the groups look like without a tuner?

  • @stevedenruyter4902
    @stevedenruyter4902 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What distance?

  • @timothylevin2661
    @timothylevin2661 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tuners rock

  • @jeffnaylor8894
    @jeffnaylor8894 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes they do. Since you can't adjust seating depth on 22lr tuners help.

  • @rustynut1967
    @rustynut1967 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What were groups like before adding the tuner? Just curious, I know they work pretty good on rim fire.

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The first group is how it was shooting with this ammo before moving the tuner.

    • @rustynut1967
      @rustynut1967 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FClassJohn Yes, I figured that. What I was asking is how did it shoot before modifying the barrel and installing the tuner? Or did you never shoot this barrel before?

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rustynut1967 oh, yeah sorry I misunderstood. I shot the same ammo through the barrel before and it honestly was just a little better but not much. I’ve had tuners on every rimfire I’ve owned and it’s always helped me dial in ammo since I don’t really have the ability to lot test.

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FClassJohnso the tuner made the groups worse?

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@allenclayton7 yeah but that’s not the point. The point is that before I never had a way to improve the groups. By adding weight the groups changed initially but then the tuner allows me to dial in whatever lot of ammo I get.

  • @jeffmiller2433
    @jeffmiller2433 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    John, what barrel profile are you using on the Vudoo?

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      .9125 benchmark

  • @davidsalsedo
    @davidsalsedo หลายเดือนก่อน

    John,
    I see you’re working with Day at the Range Captain America Challenge targets. What was your score?

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I shot a couple 80's and an 81 but forgot my SD card for the trigger cam so I just stopped. I'll be back at it for a video next week.

    • @davidsalsedo
      @davidsalsedo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FClassJohn
      Can’t wait to see your score with the tuner tune!

  • @jeffreypelletier7247
    @jeffreypelletier7247 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes they do

  • @Patrick-xd8jv
    @Patrick-xd8jv หลายเดือนก่อน

    They have been used in rimfire br for decades

  • @josephjulian2503
    @josephjulian2503 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ll make the popcorn…….

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣

    • @DW-35
      @DW-35 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely going to be an interesting comments section 😂

  • @cz503
    @cz503 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John why didn’t take a video of all process ?

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because some idiot (3 guesses who) left his SD card for the TriggerCam at home. I'll do it again in another video in the next week or two. But the results were pretty good so I figured I'd just shoot a short of it.

  • @allenclayton7
    @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    All of us “experts” that have read a basic statistics book are still waiting for a legitimate test…..

    • @maurygold74
      @maurygold74 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So you havent done any statistically significant testing to disprove it. Got it.

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@maurygold74I’ve done my own with a vudoo rimfire. Using 20rd groups at 100yds. Didn’t work for me. Got it?

    • @maurygold74
      @maurygold74 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@allenclayton7 so you did not statistically significant testing to rule out out, but that’s unacceptable to rule it in? Seems like you’re playing two sides of the coin

    • @CrashRacknShoot
      @CrashRacknShoot หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@allenclayton7 I got that you hit your head one too many times to talk about "statistically relevant" and "I once did some groups" to make the case of those groups being "statistically relevant".

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CrashRacknShootlet me know when you find someone with a legit test that proves it. It should be easy….

  • @williamallan4735
    @williamallan4735 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now do it 10 times and show that each setting gets the same repeatable results all 10 times. Then take it to another condition and try again showing the same settings do the same things every time.

  • @steveparks5030
    @steveparks5030 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    John, do they work on AR platform rifles?

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@steveparks5030 I honestly haven’t tried them as I don’t have any AR platforms. I would email them and ask what they have the them.

    • @steveparks5030
      @steveparks5030 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FClassJohn Thanks John! Love your content!

  • @briand2376
    @briand2376 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What tuner are you using?

    • @FClassJohn
      @FClassJohn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a Cortina v2

    • @briand2376
      @briand2376 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FClassJohn I'm hoping they make a slip on one soon

  • @nanrey
    @nanrey หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually that’s where tuners were invented.

  • @ErikCortina
    @ErikCortina หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Cue the random dispersion experts. 😂
    Maybe they can explain the linear way I which the groups shrank. 😁

    • @josephmandragoran4262
      @josephmandragoran4262 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's Hornady thing right now. Basically saying no rifle is ever better than 1 moa. It just may shoot better than 1 moa today. But 2 moa tomorrow. What a load of crap.

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@josephmandragoran4262that’s not what they said at all……..

    • @josephmandragoran4262
      @josephmandragoran4262 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@allenclayton7 I'm fairly certain the said in one of their own podcasts recently that shooting groups isnt an accurate way to measure precision. That 20 shots is atleast starting to show the rifles true precision. But that random variables effect rifles and that there isn't any rifle that is as precise as people claim.

    • @ben_tang
      @ben_tang หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I Believe the target 😉

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josephmandragoran4262you should re-listen

  • @thegunslinger4570
    @thegunslinger4570 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try again tomorrow with same ammo same setting, wont be as good and youll have to make an adjustment, thats the problem with tuners. But yes they work.

    • @ErikCortina
      @ErikCortina หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The problem is not with tuners, it’s with rifles being shot in different atmospheric conditions. Tuners are actually the fix to the problem, not the problem. We use them in competition to get rifles back in tune.

    • @thegunslinger4570
      @thegunslinger4570 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ErikCortina I agree. My last sentence was "yes they work" 😉 wink just didn't want people to think they set it and forget it.

    • @thegunslinger4570
      @thegunslinger4570 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now get busy making me a 1.2 inch thread less tuner FFS lol

    • @ErikCortina
      @ErikCortina หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thegunslinger4570
      We have it. :)

    • @jeffreypelletier7247
      @jeffreypelletier7247 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s weird people say that cause I must be a random exception because I haven’t touched mine in months..

  • @primalrights
    @primalrights หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Customer sent me this link today, no doubt for the comments section. Tuners work on rimfires. It's a fact, and a simple one at that. There's no more chance of a reasoned discussion with someone that thinks otherwise than there is someone that thinks men can get pregnant.

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then why do all of the tests using statistically valid sample sizes show they don’t work? Honest question. Would love to hear your answer.

    • @primalrights
      @primalrights หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@allenclayton7 Your appeal to authority logical fallacy aside… no answer given on this topic is accepted by anyone unless they already agree. I have no desire or inclination to convince you either way. If you can’t see why the tests others have performed are flawed, then you won’t recognize a test performed correctly either. Especially if it contradicts what you already believe. Bottom line… this topic is a social media engagement farm and everyone knows it. Doesn’t matter which side you fall on… everyone clicks.

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@primalrightsyou’re riding a high horse. I’m asking a simple question. I would love to have a respectful conversation about it. Litz, RAD, and the hornady guys are not idiots. What is wrong with their testing?

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@primalrightsI’m not invested either way. I just generally would love to if and how they actually work and what the protocol would be to do this. I have 2 EC tuners. I’ve followed Erik’s protocol from his videos as well doing my own test with 20rd groups at 100yds with sk lr and lot tested center x. Like 350 round tests. Showed no improvement or repeatability. The context of this is PRS22. I understand my test is definitely flawed in that there could be some shooter error and environmental factors. I also could not measure mean radius…. However it paints a picture. Even you should agree that 3-5 shot groups with a 22lr is ridiculous to determine what setting is best.

  • @lilhyperionlil2521
    @lilhyperionlil2521 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolute bs, this has been tested properly several times and the numbers dont show any statistical improvement.

    • @ErikCortina
      @ErikCortina หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Tested properly”
      Has it? What were the wind conditions for each and every shot?
      What was the shooters heart rate for each group? So much important data missing from the “scientific” tests that make them invalid IMO. 🤷‍♂️

    • @lilhyperionlil2521
      @lilhyperionlil2521 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ErikCortina stop being facetious, you of all people know fair well who and how it was tested. And if you are trying to play that game have you or any of your shills recorded any of the data you mentioned? No. You shoot a few 3 round groups then claim miracles!

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ErikCortinathe same could be said for every one of your tests saying they do work….. 😂

    • @ErikCortina
      @ErikCortina หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@allenclayton7
      I got the medals if you want to see them. 😉

    • @allenclayton7
      @allenclayton7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ErikCortinawe’ve been through Erik… medals do not mean tuners work. That’s a ridiculous claim. We just want to know if and how they actually work based on science.