The fact that they lost jrue holiday to one of their biggest rivals, who now look like a juggernaut, AND hired one of the worst playoff coaches I've ever seen, shows the bucks really fumbled this season.
They quickly forgot that Jimmy torched Jrue in the playoffs and the bucks didn’t have enough scoring when Giannis was hurt. That’s why they traded the “defense” for offense
Getting cooked by Jimmy doesn’t warrant a trade imo it’s Jimmy “Buckets” in the playoffs. Should have kept Jrue cuz I get the feeling he gonna lock Dame down
You make a strong point, but I hope there's more to it. Because Jrue was tasked with was guarding him for a reason. Imagine what Jimmy would do to the cast of characters they have now?
Gil is nailing all the issues here. Doc seems like he’s still not coaching the team the way he talks. It’s everyone else’s fault when he talks. He’s watching the team and travel crew?? He wanted to take Giannis out but they talked him out of it?? Seems odd to play the blame game like that.
What are you talking about? Doc is doing everything he can and more. It's obviously the players fault, the equipment manager fumbled the season away, and the bus driver needs to be thrown under the bus. Pretty sure the ladders have been a big problem too, the league should look into that.
@@dawk203I ain’t gon lie you had me in the first half lmao But yeah doc has always blamed everyone else. When Celtics won he gave the staff praise and the players second. Then in 2010 they lost in the finals, and he threw Paul an KG under the bus. Philly don’t even gotta say anything Clippers ? ! Maaan it was injury this injury that it’s never him.
Got the coaching job in the middle of the season no training camp and not a lot of time to implement his system players are learning on the fly next season they'll be a whole lot better let's see what happens in the playoffs
Gill should be should be blaming player empowerment. This is what happens when you let players run the show your teams lose. Most players are inherently selfish. That's why they became great players in the first place so most of them don't care about teen success they care more about individual success, and will take your teams future.
The first year with Jrue The defense was ranked 10th the next year, 14th last year, 4th. Which was actually worse, then the previous 2 years with eric bledsoe Where they were first. So as great as Jrue is as a defender. He's not responsible for the Fall off from last year. Their defense was actually better before he got there. I think the loss of Bud is more the problem
@Bookake-2 What part of them talking about Team defensive rankings for the regular season. And how the change from player to player impacted those numbers, Did you miss in this video?
I can tell Kris Middleton is well liked in the league because people just won't admit that he's the one holding the Bucks back. This guy caught lightning in a bottle for one playoff run and now he's looked at like that guy. But of course all the injury excuses and hype will make you forget that he wasn't that dude before or after that Finals run. And people wonder why the Bucks are not athletic on the perimeter. But they can't get rid of Middleton without pissing Giannis off. So they're basically stuck with him as long as Giannis wants him on the team
....And put who in his place? Middleton for years, has been the guy when they REALLY REALLY need to hit a shot. Even with Dame joining, his value has increased because you have to worry about Giannis and Dame before you worry about Middleton. In the past, he was the number 2 guy behind Giannis. The Bucks have 6 guys that can shoot the 3, and that is scary for every other team because that will give Giannis more room to operate.
@@ryanrivas9369 now if you talking about who's on the team that can replace him now, then you have a point. But if you're talking about any other player in the NBA. I can name a lot of people they could have signed or traded Middleton for. Giannis is the only reason he's still on the Bucks
I think what people forget is it’s not like bucks won championship and then the next year traded Holiday for Lillard. They won the championship, lost in semis then lost in 1st round. They made a move and as of right now it looks like it didn’t work out. The alternative is they sit back and run it back for 3rd time and lose again. Then everyone says the definition of insanity is doing same thing over and over and expecting different result.
"They won the championship, lost in semis then lost in 1st round." Yeah to the 2 teams that won the East. Bucks got upset by the Heat before they won the title too. Guess what the Heat went to the finals that year too. The year before that? You get the theme right? Their last 4 failed campaigns have all ended to the team that won the East.
@@CBoogie91I said this too. They should've tried to get a Johnathon Isaac, Herb Jones, Trey Murphy type player or a ton of good/great level role players and keep Jrue too, or at least swapped Jrue for Derrick White (if they were going to get rid of Jrue)
Where’s Rashad cause just the other day they was getting on him for saying the 76ers can beat the bucks now if the 76ers win the 7th seed they can beat them. they know not have Rashad on the show cause he was gone show his ass 😂😂😂
Jrue is great. He was the best thing for Milwaukee. Lets not forget Grayson Allen. They lost two players and a Championship coach. Grass never greener.
Gil is right that drop coverage bs that they play ONLY worked cause Jrue and even Greyson to a lesser extent were willing to fight over/thru screens, force the ball handler to take more than 2 dribbles to shoot (By that I mean no 1 dribble pullups off screens, and limiting shots on dribble handoffs), and force the ball handler into help (even still Bucks gave up alot of threes). Now guards can get into their 1 dribble pull up bag with dang near 10 feet of space cause Dame, Pat C, Malik aint fighting over screens, which exposes Lopez and makes Giannis cover more space, which takes both Brook and Giannis out the pain, and since Khris Middleton athletically is shot at the pro level its backdoor cut city from the weak side. That drop coverage bs gotta stop for them
Nah this is the same Dame. His percentages are about the same. Only thing that dipped was his scoring avg is down like 3 points. Dame will have 50 1 game playing brilliantly, then the next have 17 on 5/23 shooting from the field.
Giannis didn't get Bud out of there. Bud had some personal things to deal with in combination with being there for a long time. Giannis was involved in picking the next coach. We can put that part on Giannis.
Nope. It's the front office job to assess who the BEST COACH AND PERSONNEL is. If CHICAGO DIDN'T GIVE IN TO MJ building their team, can't put the blame on Giannis either. Worst mistake was not hiring Nick nurse
@@IknowMoreThanYou -- The Front office did make the decisions. It is crazy to think that you wouldn't ask your best player for input though. Many teams ask for player input. Leaving the decision up to the player is obviously wrong but the input is important. It keeps the player happy and may even be informative depending on the player.
@@IknowMoreThanYouyou gotta ask the player cuz they will leave if you don’t. FA is very real. Especially when u KNOW you can get a bag and u already gotta ring and can go to a contender. They brought in his brother. Front office made the choice, but GA made the request.
@@HomerunsamSOSA if you HIRE RIGHT AND THEY WIN THEY DON'T LEAVE lmao Look at GS LOOK AT THE BULLS LOOK AT SAN ANTONIO BEFORE KAWHI GOT HURT LOOK AT D WADE AND MIAMI JOKIC IN DENVER. MJ Chicago Dirk, Dallas you gonna lose your player if you HIRE the wrong dude anyway, may as well say "yea cool bro thanks for the input" and hire who u was gonna lmao
For real though if the bucks get bounced in the first round that Doc rivers hire is probably going to go down as one of the worst hires in history...I get the defence wasn't crazy at the start of the year but why not try to stick it out and see if it improves...such a strange decision.
I like Jrue but playoff Dame will silence you all, same goes for Giannis he plays at his 70% at the moment and he still dominates. So bring it on Celtics or whoever
Gil and em dont understand that things cant stay the same every year. They traded jrue after the team wasnt as good as the champion team a fee years earlier. Jrue fell off offensively and the fact that khris hasnt been the same has hurt the bucks. Adding dame was a last ditch effort to keep giannis but they need to find a way to off load khris and add quality depth again. This cant all be on dame and doc rivers( even though that last one is a head scratcher)
Bucks lost trade, Jrue & Grayson are better than 1 Dame, Grayson is 51, 47, 88% this year & Jrue is 43% from 3, + both are way better on defense, 3 coaches in less than 1 year 😂
Can't say they lost the trade when the playoffs haven't happened yet lmao. Dame and Giannis could still go crazy and make a run although I don't have a lot of faith that will happen with Doc
In the offseason Bucks need to hire Terry Stotts and a great defensive assistant coach. Dame can rediscover his Portland self and if that happens they'll be a problem for sure.
Milwaukee problem is Lopez is to slow Beasley to small and isn’t a sniper like that for Dame you a big 2 Crawford should start. But bucks need a 3 and 3 centre
You must not play basketball they need Lopez because he can actually stretch the floor and shoot the ball unlike giannis with no footwork just tryna play bully ball Lmaooo and dame simply gotta get his defense better because in all reality Beasley defense is top tier on the team no cap
@@leeroy9562buddy It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see Lopez can’t guard a can of paint. Atleast dame can stay infront of guys and you can stick him in the corner and give him help while forcing teams to waste time on the shot clock to try hunt down a match up you need multiple actions for which is how the Bucks won a chip when you had the Lopez problem in the first place but had Holiday saved them and Middleton was healthier For your info bru I was the best player in my city with division 1 offers from Toronto and I coach my lil girls basketball team to the city final my resumes documented lol
Dame has been lame all season offensively and defensively, but the media won't say it. Rather they gonna blame Giannis that has had a great individual season so far.
Fans and haters said the Lakers beat one of the best teams in the east the Bucks without LeBron and they said the Lakers are better without LeBron. Now look at the narrative on the Bucks. smh
Gil speaking on issues but nun of his teams never even had these kind of problems. Only problems his team had was him why we taking his opinion into account. Gil never had achampionship coach he outta line.
yeah the bucks 2024 regular eason is a complete failed; bucks should kept mike & jrue plus trade middleton; plus try to make roster younger not keep these old dudes edit: jrue holiday defense iq was truly insane because he made up for all these dude problems
Dame is responsible for the offense of the players they gave up PLUS the points they would have taken away on the other end. If you wanna go the scoring route you gotta commit to it like Dallas bucks are in the odd spot in the middle
Gil you Right though. Being from the Mil I watch every game. The entire league avg for points was 118 this season. Firing Griffin was outside basketball issues as well. Doc switched philosophy to defense because half court ball in playoffs. Jrue scored 18 as well as defended 1-4. Missing points with Bev, Crowder, cougnnton, playing so many minutes Beasley gotta score as well. Dame has more stls than Jrue this season
You can have as many talented prospects as you want but if their skill sets do not compliment each other they will ultimately fail. Project 6’9 was cool but we had to many guys that did the same thing and personally I think that’s why it failed. Not because the guys we had didn’t have enough talent
They should have kept with Griffin. He tried to make them more versatile on defence, as Bud's strategy was being outplayed by current playing styles. But he could adjust, it was too early in the season.. Their mistake was listening to Giannis who had leverage over contract and hired Griffin instead of Nurse. MJ didn't like Phil initially, but that is the genius of Krause. Nurse is the best coach in the NBA, together with Spo and Kerr (Pop is in the GOAT status conversation)
The problem is the Bucks are terrified at the thought of Giannis leaving, so they think if they do whatever he wants he won't leave results be damned, but Giannis will leave when he shoulders the blame for these moves. Brook Lopez is 36. How many more seasons do you have with him? They don't make 7 foot tall 3pt shooting centers at Santa's workshop. You probably only have one more year with him. Middleton is 32 and becoming more and more injury prone. At the end of this season the Bucks are going to have a decision to make and running it back won't be an option. You're either going to trade Giannis or rebuild around him and Dame. Middleton and Portis probably have to go. Maybe you try to trade for Alex Caruso, someone who can play D, doesn't need the ball to be effective.
They felt like Griffin wouldn't get them over the hump. Giannis was beefing with him then Terry Stotts resigning as assistant coach didn't help. I think Dame wanted him there so things haven't exactly gone according to plan. Doc was just a bad backup plan 😅
Bucks identity was their defence and they steered away from that trading jrue. Truth is they never needed dame they were a top 2-3 team without him anyways. Getting a wing like anunoby and giving Allen more offensive responsibilities would’ve helped tremendously.
Gil you were more right than you thought becaused you guys missed the point that if they are 5th right now that really means that they are like 8-10th over the last 30 games because they would be averaging 40 games at 2nd place.
The Bucks won the Dame trade. The only goal of the Bucks was to resign Giannis. He did not sign when eligible with Jrue. He gave the go ahead for the trade and signed the extension early because of it. The organization’s goal wasn’t to win a championship, it was to resign Giannis and they did that
Crazy thing is, people said Jrue wasn’t enough offensively for them. But outside of his shakey offense, he’s too vital to trade just for more “offense”. Cause look now, when Dame doesn’t produce that trade is literally a waste because he does nothing else good.
The Bucks went backwards after winning the championship. I don't think they should have traded for Dame or not given up Holiday in the trade. Middleton has slowed down a bit and giving away the white guy from Duke was a big loss also. Letting go of the twin center was a bad move also. They have gotten smaller and less defensive prowess. Let go of their coach then let go of their next coach. I don't think they have to worry about The Greek freak leaving. He will get that one last humongous contract and ride off into the sunset. Doc Rivers hasn't had on an NBA uniform in many years so I am trying to figure out how he is the reason for them losing.
Wasn’t the issue between MJ and Krause that MJ wanted to win more chips in the near term while Krause wanted to rebuild for the future? In both cases it was logical rather than emotional by either party…
The fact that they lost jrue holiday to one of their biggest rivals, who now look like a juggernaut, AND hired one of the worst playoff coaches I've ever seen, shows the bucks really fumbled this season.
As a Celtics fan I would of never thought they would let Jrue come to Boston lol
@@kevingomes8416I don’t think they make the trade if they knew Jrue would end up in Boston
Dame is better than jrue bucks just lost they're depth they had last season @@kevingomes8416
@@kevingomes8416facts I didn’t think we’ll get jrue frfr 😂
Juggernaut 😭😭😭🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Mannn Stop it !
They quickly forgot that Jimmy torched Jrue in the playoffs and the bucks didn’t have enough scoring when Giannis was hurt. That’s why they traded the “defense” for offense
Well how is that working for them?
Getting cooked by Jimmy doesn’t warrant a trade imo it’s Jimmy “Buckets” in the playoffs. Should have kept Jrue cuz I get the feeling he gonna lock Dame down
BUCKs will surprise pple...
You make a strong point, but I hope there's more to it. Because Jrue was tasked with was guarding him for a reason. Imagine what Jimmy would do to the cast of characters they have now?
Gabe Vincent and max strus cooked jrue too
Gil is nailing all the issues here. Doc seems like he’s still not coaching the team the way he talks. It’s everyone else’s fault when he talks. He’s watching the team and travel crew?? He wanted to take Giannis out but they talked him out of it?? Seems odd to play the blame game like that.
What are you talking about? Doc is doing everything he can and more. It's obviously the players fault, the equipment manager fumbled the season away, and the bus driver needs to be thrown under the bus. Pretty sure the ladders have been a big problem too, the league should look into that.
@@dawk203I ain’t gon lie you had me in the first half lmao
But yeah doc has always blamed everyone else. When Celtics won he gave the staff praise and the players second. Then in 2010 they lost in the finals, and he threw Paul an KG under the bus.
Philly don’t even gotta say anything
Clippers ? ! Maaan it was injury this injury that it’s never him.
Got the coaching job in the middle of the season no training camp and not a lot of time to implement his system players are learning on the fly next season they'll be a whole lot better let's see what happens in the playoffs
Gill should be should be blaming player empowerment. This is what happens when you let players run the show your teams lose. Most players are inherently selfish. That's why they became great players in the first place so most of them don't care about teen success they care more about individual success, and will take your teams future.
This the same guy who just said jokic the worst mvp ?
The first year with Jrue The defense was ranked 10th the next year, 14th last year, 4th. Which was actually worse, then the previous 2 years with eric bledsoe Where they were first. So as great as Jrue is as a defender. He's not responsible for the Fall off from last year. Their defense was actually better before he got there. I think the loss of Bud is more the problem
Reg season defense means nothing if it doesn't work in the playoffs
@@tirrellfaunteroy2747this is a dumb statement
Coach bud was a great defensive coach
you’re using regular season defensive rankings to point out individual metrics. make it make sense
@Bookake-2 What part of them talking about Team defensive rankings for the regular season. And how the change from player to player impacted those numbers, Did you miss in this video?
Man that's Ty Lawson I almost didn't recognize bro lol
they never have more than one Carolina player on at a time
I sholl came to the comments to see for sure. I said Ty Lawson tho
I didn’t know who the hell that was
I didn’t even clock it, Ty was the man in his day
Thank you sir cause I didn't recognize bruh😂😂
People forgetting how much PJ Tucker and his defense helped them get that chip
I can tell Kris Middleton is well liked in the league because people just won't admit that he's the one holding the Bucks back. This guy caught lightning in a bottle for one playoff run and now he's looked at like that guy. But of course all the injury excuses and hype will make you forget that he wasn't that dude before or after that Finals run. And people wonder why the Bucks are not athletic on the perimeter. But they can't get rid of Middleton without pissing Giannis off. So they're basically stuck with him as long as Giannis wants him on the team
They should move him to the bench like they did with Klay on the Warriors.
....And put who in his place? Middleton for years, has been the guy when they REALLY REALLY need to hit a shot. Even with Dame joining, his value has increased because you have to worry about Giannis and Dame before you worry about Middleton. In the past, he was the number 2 guy behind Giannis. The Bucks have 6 guys that can shoot the 3, and that is scary for every other team because that will give Giannis more room to operate.
@@ryanrivas9369 now if you talking about who's on the team that can replace him now, then you have a point. But if you're talking about any other player in the NBA. I can name a lot of people they could have signed or traded Middleton for. Giannis is the only reason he's still on the Bucks
I think what people forget is it’s not like bucks won championship and then the next year traded Holiday for Lillard. They won the championship, lost in semis then lost in 1st round. They made a move and as of right now it looks like it didn’t work out. The alternative is they sit back and run it back for 3rd time and lose again. Then everyone says the definition of insanity is doing same thing over and over and expecting different result.
They should've traded Middleton instead of holiday
"They won the championship, lost in semis then lost in 1st round." Yeah to the 2 teams that won the East. Bucks got upset by the Heat before they won the title too. Guess what the Heat went to the finals that year too. The year before that? You get the theme right? Their last 4 failed campaigns have all ended to the team that won the East.
@@CBoogie91Facts he seems to always be injured, especially in the playoffs
@@CBoogie91I said this too. They should've tried to get a Johnathon Isaac, Herb Jones, Trey Murphy type player or a ton of good/great level role players and keep Jrue too, or at least swapped Jrue for Derrick White (if they were going to get rid of Jrue)
Exactly Boston beat those same bucks on the way to the finals anyway with jrue
Where’s Rashad cause just the other day they was getting on him for saying the 76ers can beat the bucks now if the 76ers win the 7th seed they can beat them. they know not have Rashad on the show cause he was gone show his ass 😂😂😂
Exactly wat im sayin this is crazy😂😂😂😂😂🫨
potentially risking a career-altering injury for 1-2 series which are a maybe at best is dumb af
Just 2 episodes ago mccants said 76ers could upset bucks during the embiid coming back topic gil was like hell no but now its go 76ers
Gil is a casual
He switch up like the seasons but he talks well so he gets a pass
You can switch your opinion based on new information.
@@HomerunsamSOSAdo you feel that people actively put new information in their brain? I’m just curious on your thoughts
@@HomerunsamSOSAIts been the same info for 30 games now. Bucks under Doc are a 6th-8th seed at BEST
Jrue is great. He was the best thing for Milwaukee. Lets not forget Grayson Allen. They lost two players and a Championship coach. Grass never greener.
Divenchenzo to NY also
@@s.b3170goldenstate then to ny but yes
Im a big Giannis fan, but he gotta eat some of this too. Hes the man, and when you lose games like this, to teams this bad, "The Man" gotta eat it...
Agreed cuz those teams are god awful, but he’s clearly playing through an injury with dudes that can’t even run back on defense lol
Pause lol
If u watch the games he does all he can. Rest of this team been dog shit
Giving Gil a pass on talking shit just because he's partly right on Doc. But the guy be talkimg shit when it comes to Giannis he straight up hating.
Soooo true, he doesn’t stop every time his name comes up!
Gil just makes up stuff on the fly. Giannis was an All Defensive First Team before Jrue Holiday joined the team.
This might be one of Gil's best takes.
Gil is right that drop coverage bs that they play ONLY worked cause Jrue and even Greyson to a lesser extent were willing to fight over/thru screens, force the ball handler to take more than 2 dribbles to shoot (By that I mean no 1 dribble pullups off screens, and limiting shots on dribble handoffs), and force the ball handler into help (even still Bucks gave up alot of threes). Now guards can get into their 1 dribble pull up bag with dang near 10 feet of space cause Dame, Pat C, Malik aint fighting over screens, which exposes Lopez and makes Giannis cover more space, which takes both Brook and Giannis out the pain, and since Khris Middleton athletically is shot at the pro level its backdoor cut city from the weak side. That drop coverage bs gotta stop for them
jenning saying “our team” 😂
celebratring like a champ
Bruh lots of ex players say that when referring to former teams they still have love for that they also played for.
He’s forever a buck in our eyes
So ? What's your point
Best he can do is attach himself to something. Because he damn sho wasn't a game changer. Brief glimpses.
@@resurrectedainu6751you trippin. Youngest player to ever hit 55 in the league. He was a game changer for sure...
Kenyon got them soccer socks on 😂
He gotta play like "trail dame" lol i think dame left his watch in portland
That was clever
@HomerunsamSOSA lol I appresh the comment... that joke been on my mind since doc got here lol. . I finally get to use it
Nah this is the same Dame. His percentages are about the same. Only thing that dipped was his scoring avg is down like 3 points. Dame will have 50 1 game playing brilliantly, then the next have 17 on 5/23 shooting from the field.
@isthatdave55 that do sound like him 💯 lol you right
Everyone on the show waiting quietly before Gil straight ethers Doc Rivers is downright hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gil called out greeny
Giannis didn't get Bud out of there. Bud had some personal things to deal with in combination with being there for a long time. Giannis was involved in picking the next coach. We can put that part on Giannis.
Nope. It's the front office job to assess who the BEST COACH AND PERSONNEL is. If CHICAGO DIDN'T GIVE IN TO MJ building their team, can't put the blame on Giannis either. Worst mistake was not hiring Nick nurse
@@IknowMoreThanYou -- The Front office did make the decisions. It is crazy to think that you wouldn't ask your best player for input though.
Many teams ask for player input. Leaving the decision up to the player is obviously wrong but the input is important.
It keeps the player happy and may even be informative depending on the player.
@@IknowMoreThanYouyou gotta ask the player cuz they will leave if you don’t. FA is very real. Especially when u KNOW you can get a bag and u already gotta ring and can go to a contender. They brought in his brother. Front office made the choice, but GA made the request.
@@HomerunsamSOSA if you HIRE RIGHT AND THEY WIN
THEY DON'T LEAVE lmao
Look at GS
LOOK AT THE BULLS
LOOK AT SAN ANTONIO BEFORE KAWHI GOT HURT
LOOK AT D WADE AND MIAMI
JOKIC IN DENVER.
MJ Chicago
Dirk, Dallas
you gonna lose your player if you HIRE the wrong dude anyway, may as well say "yea cool bro thanks for the input" and hire who u was gonna lmao
The front is Gannis and then his family. Then it's everyone else..🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️
lol who yelled out “damn” at 0:35
K-Mart
Everyone forgetting that Middletons injuries made it obvious that something had to change
For real though if the bucks get bounced in the first round that Doc rivers hire is probably going to go down as one of the worst hires in history...I get the defence wasn't crazy at the start of the year but why not try to stick it out and see if it improves...such a strange decision.
They are not getting bounced first round trust
@@mkeonfiremagazine4673 yeah I don’t see Dame or Giannis letting that happen 😂
@@mkeonfiremagazine4673 people underestimate this team they can just literally go off in the post season and shock everyone
@@lestonclark2398we don’t underestimate them at the end of the day we talm bout doc man
@@css1741you just named two people that have lost in the first round multiple times 😂
Dame is a complete liability on defense word to 2k lol
They were winning no problem until new coach
That little bastard sells you on defense every time, I suppose there are some realistic things about 2K.
Facts
I hope dame proves all of them wrong and gets to the final
I don’t
hope in one hand and s**t in the other. See which gets filled faster.
Kenyon might as well pull his socks up to his knees
I got a nice chuckle outta this 😅
🤣😂
🤣🤣🤣
I like Jrue but playoff Dame will silence you all, same goes for Giannis he plays at his 70% at the moment and he still dominates. So bring it on Celtics or whoever
stand on business when they fall in the first round
Anybody else hear Kenyon saying “45, 47”!😂
2:50 shoutout mike epps🤣🤣all about the benjamin’s
Jennings does not know how to hold an L..That man will pull out excuses left and right..Gives me McCants vibes 😂
Skinny mccants
With Griffin the Bucks were 3rd in Off rating and 19th in Def Rating.
With Doc they’re 16th in Off rating and 11th in Def rating.
Gil and em dont understand that things cant stay the same every year. They traded jrue after the team wasnt as good as the champion team a fee years earlier. Jrue fell off offensively and the fact that khris hasnt been the same has hurt the bucks. Adding dame was a last ditch effort to keep giannis but they need to find a way to off load khris and add quality depth again. This cant all be on dame and doc rivers( even though that last one is a head scratcher)
McCants be making more sense than Jennings most days now 😂
1:10 Gilbert did the echoes in real time on Mike Greenberg berg berg 🤣🤣🤣
Bucks lost trade, Jrue & Grayson are better than 1 Dame, Grayson is 51, 47, 88% this year & Jrue is 43% from 3, + both are way better on defense, 3 coaches in less than 1 year 😂
Can't say they lost the trade when the playoffs haven't happened yet lmao. Dame and Giannis could still go crazy and make a run although I don't have a lot of faith that will happen with Doc
On behalf of the Boston Celtics I say thank you for giving up your best player to us. We actually appreciate him ☘️
He has fit in quite nicely I must say. I love the D. White and J. Holiday backcourt.
As a Miami fan this is just great to watch 😁
In the offseason Bucks need to hire Terry Stotts and a great defensive assistant coach. Dame can rediscover his Portland self and if that happens they'll be a problem for sure.
I wonder whose the number 1 team in the east and what player did they acquire to improve to number one... Drew is missed by Milwaukee Bucks.
Gil said on night cap bad teams love to play spoiler this time of year
Everyone talks about Jrue who I love, but we also lost Alan, Grayson, Wes, Carter - should not have fired Bud tbf
Milwaukee problem is Lopez is to slow Beasley to small and isn’t a sniper like that for Dame you a big 2 Crawford should start. But bucks need a 3 and 3 centre
You must not play basketball they need Lopez because he can actually stretch the floor and shoot the ball unlike giannis with no footwork just tryna play bully ball Lmaooo and dame simply gotta get his defense better because in all reality Beasley defense is top tier on the team no cap
@@leeroy9562buddy It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see Lopez can’t guard a can of paint. Atleast dame can stay infront of guys and you can stick him in the corner and give him help while forcing teams to waste time on the shot clock to try hunt down a match up you need multiple actions for which is how the Bucks won a chip when you had the Lopez problem in the first place but had Holiday saved them and Middleton was healthier For your info bru I was the best player in my city with division 1 offers from Toronto and I coach my lil girls basketball team to the city final my resumes documented lol
Dame has been lame all season offensively and defensively, but the media won't say it. Rather they gonna blame Giannis that has had a great individual season so far.
Fans and haters said the Lakers beat one of the best teams in the east the Bucks without LeBron and they said the Lakers are better without LeBron. Now look at the narrative on the Bucks. smh
Give Doc the grace you give Diddy Gil.
Gil speaking on issues but nun of his teams never even had these kind of problems. Only problems his team had was him why we taking his opinion into account. Gil never had achampionship coach he outta line.
yeah the bucks 2024 regular eason is a complete failed; bucks should kept mike & jrue plus trade middleton; plus try to make roster younger not keep these old dudes
edit: jrue holiday defense iq was truly insane because he made up for all these dude problems
Jrue is the reason Boston is winning it this year like it was when the bucks won.
@@moneymoney3235winning what lol the regular season
Jrue Holiday & Adrian Griffin are somewhere laughing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Agreed ..
Is this Ty Lawson?? NC legend fasho
Dame is responsible for the offense of the players they gave up PLUS the points they would have taken away on the other end. If you wanna go the scoring route you gotta commit to it like Dallas bucks are in the odd spot in the middle
Doc must have seen the commissioner at a diddy party 😅
Bucks should've never fired Budenholzer. And obviously shouldn't have traded J Holiday.
JJ Reddick was right.
"Yeah mother Tucker sit your ass down.." 😂😂😂
Adrian Griffin's smirkin' his ass off
Damn that's Ty mfn Lawson...but i gotta say kenyon Martin is a fucking legend
Dame ain’t even play these games they lost lol
Wtf that mean it's the Wizards and hurt Grizzlies
Next man up tho. They’ve lost with both GA and Dame on the floor.
dame played in multiple games they lost under doc
We still have to see how the playoffs unfold at the end of the day
Gil stop playing and come coach my Bucks! 😂
Gil you Right though. Being from the Mil I watch every game. The entire league avg for points was 118 this season. Firing Griffin was outside basketball issues as well. Doc switched philosophy to defense because half court ball in playoffs. Jrue scored 18 as well as defended 1-4. Missing points with Bev, Crowder, cougnnton, playing so many minutes Beasley gotta score as well. Dame has more stls than Jrue this season
Giannis pressured the front office to do this move
15-16
What if the bucks just don’t respond well to a scoring point guard? When they had drue everything seemed more organic and in a flow.
Jrue and Porzingis where the biggest pickups this season
The conversation when you are 30 and 13 getting fired. "We're sorry you're winning way too much." 😂😂😂😂😂
You can have as many talented prospects as you want but if their skill sets do not compliment each other they will ultimately fail. Project 6’9 was cool but we had to many guys that did the same thing and personally I think that’s why it failed. Not because the guys we had didn’t have enough talent
My boy a wizard with the broom
We trying new things/rotations at the end of the year
They should have kept with Griffin. He tried to make them more versatile on defence, as Bud's strategy was being outplayed by current playing styles. But he could adjust, it was too early in the season.. Their mistake was listening to Giannis who had leverage over contract and hired Griffin instead of Nurse. MJ didn't like Phil initially, but that is the genius of Krause. Nurse is the best coach in the NBA, together with Spo and Kerr (Pop is in the GOAT status conversation)
I wonder who’s going to make the official roster for Memphis in 2k25 bc if I’m not mistaken I heard they had 30 or 35 different players this year? 💀
The Bucks make the same mistake the 2020 Lakers made. Breaking up a championship core to chase big names
What’s crazy is just last week Gil said sixer’s was done for the season and shouldn’t play embiid because they couldn’t beat the bucks
Rashad the only reason I watch this show. Remind me of Skip, He not with the out of site outta mind Ish
It was like that with Udoka and the celtics. They got it together and made it to the finals. They shouldn't fired the coach for the bucks
Watching this after they lost to the raptors last night is crazy
When Giannis go to the finals ima be tuning in
(Plz don’t let me down bucks)
Gil!!😂😂’two teams going on, there’s Doc and he’s team and then there’s the Bucks’
Lmao Gil cracks me up
The problem is the Bucks are terrified at the thought of Giannis leaving, so they think if they do whatever he wants he won't leave results be damned, but Giannis will leave when he shoulders the blame for these moves.
Brook Lopez is 36. How many more seasons do you have with him? They don't make 7 foot tall 3pt shooting centers at Santa's workshop. You probably only have one more year with him.
Middleton is 32 and becoming more and more injury prone.
At the end of this season the Bucks are going to have a decision to make and running it back won't be an option. You're either going to trade Giannis or rebuild around him and Dame. Middleton and Portis probably have to go. Maybe you try to trade for Alex Caruso, someone who can play D, doesn't need the ball to be effective.
They felt like Griffin wouldn't get them over the hump. Giannis was beefing with him then Terry Stotts resigning as assistant coach didn't help. I think Dame wanted him there so things haven't exactly gone according to plan. Doc was just a bad backup plan 😅
I would have never gotten rid of Jrue Holiday. I knew that was an tremendous mistake, when the trade took place.
Bucks identity was their defence and they steered away from that trading jrue. Truth is they never needed dame they were a top 2-3 team without him anyways. Getting a wing like anunoby and giving Allen more offensive responsibilities would’ve helped tremendously.
Gil you were more right than you thought becaused you guys missed the point that if they are 5th right now that really means that they are like 8-10th over the last 30 games because they would be averaging 40 games at 2nd place.
To me it's obvious they are trying to drop back in the 3rd seed to avoid sixers or heat
The Bucks won the Dame trade. The only goal of the Bucks was to resign Giannis. He did not sign when eligible with Jrue. He gave the go ahead for the trade and signed the extension early because of it. The organization’s goal wasn’t to win a championship, it was to resign Giannis and they did that
Crazy thing is, people said Jrue wasn’t enough offensively for them. But outside of his shakey offense, he’s too vital to trade just for more “offense”. Cause look now, when Dame doesn’t produce that trade is literally a waste because he does nothing else good.
U can say the same for Jrue tho cuz if he getting cooked on the defensive end and cant provide anything on offensive wats the point in keeping him
Probably should have kept jrue and traded Middleton instead
Bad Jordan and Krause comparison but you right. Jordan ain't beg Krause for shit except let my team win before breaking us up.
Milwaukee been letting me down this year and this was supposed to be the year
If Jrue is on any team other than the Celtics then this doesn't look as bad but damn lok
The Bucks went backwards after winning the championship. I don't think they should have traded for Dame or not given up Holiday in the trade. Middleton has slowed down a bit and giving away the white guy from Duke was a big loss also. Letting go of the twin center was a bad move also. They have gotten smaller and less defensive prowess. Let go of their coach then let go of their next coach. I don't think they have to worry about The Greek freak leaving. He will get that one last humongous contract and ride off into the sunset. Doc Rivers hasn't had on an NBA uniform in many years so I am trying to figure out how he is the reason for them losing.
We gon be alright ‘’
If they fire Doc, who would be best to replace him? Monty?
Bucks won the trade cuz where the hell is Portland
Letting Jrue Holiday go was stupid. Especially if you was already replacing a head coach at the same time.
I’d never trade away a defensive star for an offensive star when I already have an offensive star.
I think we should have traded for PJ too… PJ, Pat, and Bobby would have been crazy
Wasn’t the issue between MJ and Krause that MJ wanted to win more chips in the near term while Krause wanted to rebuild for the future?
In both cases it was logical rather than emotional by either party…