SO INCREDIBLY ACCURATE. I’ve been back on this generation Suzuki for about four years now, and every finite detail Josh explains in the video is spot on. Even at a slower speeds as more of a vet rider myself, these bugs, and quirks can still be felt exactly the same. Much worse for fast guys! If you guys want to do a deeper dive on some of the modifications Josh talks about such as aftermarket exhaust, suspension set up and revalve, RMZ250 shock swap, FCP engine mounts, and just how much better you can make this bike, as well as how much weight you can shave with these mods (over 6 pounds!) then you will probably like this TH-cam series that I’ve been filming for you guys the past couple years. I’ve done every one of these mods to the RMZ450: Build The Ultimate Mortal Man's Suzuki RMZ450 th-cam.com/play/PL_oYXNbYADbLkcRG2Fo9zS68NK4_SumsI.html I do love this bike to death, so fun to ride once it dialed in. Enjoy! -Charles // mXrevival
I must say I do love my new Suzuki RMZ450. Feels more compact, better/stronger built, and less top heavy compared to the Kawasaki which nobody gripes about. Actually compared to many other 450s on the show room floor that I sat on, the RMZ actually had stiffer suspension initially for my 205-210 lbs than others which seemed setup for 180lb riders. The RMZ isn’t any heavier than the older bikes from 2014-2018 or so from other Japanese bikes…. Which those seemed to kick ass back then and most riders today couldn’t take those bikes to their full potential let alone this 2023 RMZ. With a few parts changed out or modified it can drop weight very quickly, handle way differently and well the power can be moved anywhere you want
Got a 19 rmz 450 best thing I did was have Factory connections do the suspension they recommended 110mm bike floats like a witch on a broom now well worth the money
People complain about the Suzuki but you know, the Kickstarter it doesn’t bother me, the cable does not bother me, this Suzuki it is a compatible bike, I’ve seen it myself in Supercross making it up to the top 10, yes You need to finish the job by picking up the horsepower such as adding an exhaust system. But I’ll give it credit to Suzuki because it has always been a great bike in championship bike through those years. Some people do not understand it’s not just the bike, it’s the rider.
I understand everyone wants to throw shade at Suzuki. But not every brand is trying to make the fastest bike. There needs to be a slow bike that turns well.
Slow rebound fork & shock, mostly the fork, also the compression looked fine on the fork may have to lighten compression up a little considering what you were hitting. I did think the ride hight was a little was off a little more sag please .
Every owner since 2018 does the same 3 things. Longer link, drill the engine mounts, and swap a 13:1 piston. All would be free for Suzuki to do but they care so little about this platform they won't even do that.
@@ShawB44 that's not too bad. I found the invoice for my 04crf450 just last week. 6300 plus taxes. I cant remember what the other fees were. But that was 18 years ago.
anything that comes out yearly is the same way broskie from cars to video games to electronics to literally everything not just bikes 😂 anything with yearly release dates is just the same as the last with maaaaybe 1 little difference but usually not 🤷♂️ thats just how it goes
I think one of the biggest questions is when Suzuki will bring a new bike to bring it up to modern specs. I loved my Suzuki's and I really think they have something up their sleeves....
I believe Ken will show how it’s done 2023, yes I’m sure he finished the job on the updates. Big chance Suzuki will have a new bike in 24’ now that Suzuki quit MotoGP, Suzuki now has Money!
It’s funny when all these guys who review the bikes, talk about how you’re serious. Racers aren’t going to like it in stock form compared to some $12000 YZ450 or KTM 450. Well there is a huge price gap amongst them, but any serious racer is gonna ditch stock suspension anyways, same with the engine…. They are going to mod the engine for more HP regardless of brand. They are going to change tuning and gearing to make power come on differently. The European bikes and Bikes like Honda and Yamaha all will get changed to something else… yes the Suzuki is heavier but I’m the end after any serious rider gets ahold of it, it will be lightened up with aftermarket parts/modifications… whereas many other brands are pretty much already at their lightest because they have lighter sprockets, bolts, lighter components from the start and that’s why they cost a few thousand more upfront. 3-4K difference in price between a Suzuki and some KTM or new Yamaha is a lot…
I don’t see it really any further behind than say a Kawasaki which nobody seems to talk about Kawasaki being old and outdated… even though I feel this Suzuki is more updated and built better/stronger than its KX450 rival.
@@MXvsATV144 Dude, the Kawie has been a great overall bike but last few years, especially, now with the “SR.” I like SUZUKI though, but l can’t see myself buying one…
Not a fair comparison. No top level pro is riding a stick bike. They all run A kit of factory suspension, full exhaust, modded ECU with custom maps, built engine (most pros, some run stock or light mods), sprockets/chains/grips/bars, so it’s not even close to what you get off the showroom.
I never understand it either, I mean I have been seeing plenty of Suzuki Machines take holeshots and ride the same track conditions, leading races in Supercross the last few events. It was I think the LCQ or some qualifier where 2-3 Suzuki bikes from Privateers were taking holeshots and keeping same speeds as any other rider
$9000 for an unpopular, unwanted latest year model bike? Bruh why smhlmao it’s not a Kiwi or a Yamaha so why the premium price tag 🗣️🤦🏾♂️ I love Suzuki bikes (all my life in fact) but I’m not interested in paying that much for a Suz 😔
You can find them new in the $6500 a savings of around $4000 with taxes and freight fees compared to most models. That’s great value especially if you want to buy your kid a new bike.
i bought my first dirt bike got stolen in 4 days bought two more dirt bikes one didn’t even start when i got home the other ran for ten mins and died out bout a 50cc for my son too end went out same day the dirt bike world sucks i get ppl tryna make money but dam so i sold all of them and tried to get this 2023 suzy and turned out i needed a 650 credit score i’m done bro lol
Still loving my 21 rmz! Perfect for an intermediate vet rider 🏍️
SO INCREDIBLY ACCURATE. I’ve been back on this generation Suzuki for about four years now, and every finite detail Josh explains in the video is spot on.
Even at a slower speeds as more of a vet rider myself, these bugs, and quirks can still be felt exactly the same. Much worse for fast guys!
If you guys want to do a deeper dive on some of the modifications Josh talks about such as aftermarket exhaust, suspension set up and revalve, RMZ250 shock swap, FCP engine mounts, and just how much better you can make this bike, as well as how much weight you can shave with these mods (over 6 pounds!) then you will probably like this TH-cam series that I’ve been filming for you guys the past couple years. I’ve done every one of these mods to the RMZ450:
Build The Ultimate Mortal Man's Suzuki RMZ450
th-cam.com/play/PL_oYXNbYADbLkcRG2Fo9zS68NK4_SumsI.html
I do love this bike to death, so fun to ride once it dialed in. Enjoy!
-Charles // mXrevival
My 2012 after a suspension revalve is a better bike haha
@@michaelkritter1694 I have a feeling you were born in 2012 also, if you're not a child, I sure hope you don't have children.
I must say I do love my new Suzuki RMZ450. Feels more compact, better/stronger built, and less top heavy compared to the Kawasaki which nobody gripes about. Actually compared to many other 450s on the show room floor that I sat on, the RMZ actually had stiffer suspension initially for my 205-210 lbs than others which seemed setup for 180lb riders. The RMZ isn’t any heavier than the older bikes from 2014-2018 or so from other Japanese bikes…. Which those seemed to kick ass back then and most riders today couldn’t take those bikes to their full potential let alone this 2023 RMZ. With a few parts changed out or modified it can drop weight very quickly, handle way differently and well the power can be moved anywhere you want
My opinion is it’s the best looking bike in the bunch.
Agreed
I really like the Kawi. I think both the rmz and kx are more subtle in style. The other bikes are all edgy and to much like a KTM.
@@DOWNEY770 I agree
Totally agree.
Heard they’re doing a complete bike update for 2024! In my opinion the rmz 450 is the best looking bike!
Best bang for your buck! Picked my 22 up in August for $5999!!
Where did you get that at? Dealers around here advertise good pricing then blow it up with BS fees.
Dealer?
@@IvarEriksson83 We got them advertised for 5500 then adding 2k in fees not including taxes.
Perfect for a weekend rider like me I have a 2012 and 2008 RMZ450.
I've been anticipating this so much.
I want to root for this bike because everyone gives it so much grief! You might say I like an underdog...
Exactly how I am. Hoping for a breakout year
Awesome test guys Motocross action magazine Suzuki RM z450 thanks👍🇬🇧
Got a 19 rmz 450 best thing I did was have Factory connections do the suspension they recommended 110mm bike floats like a witch on a broom now well worth the money
I'm a Yahmaha guy. My first bike was a 1986 RM 125. RMs are still the best looking bike ever!
People complain about the Suzuki but you know, the Kickstarter it doesn’t bother me, the cable does not bother me, this Suzuki it is a compatible bike, I’ve seen it myself in Supercross making it up to the top 10, yes You need to finish the job by picking up the horsepower such as adding an exhaust system. But I’ll give it credit to Suzuki because it has always been a great bike in championship bike through those years. Some people do not understand it’s not just the bike, it’s the rider.
I understand everyone wants to throw shade at Suzuki. But not every brand is trying to make the fastest bike. There needs to be a slow bike that turns well.
Someone should test/review the bike with the free Yosh RS-12 exhaust Suzuki is including.
Best mx bike i love my rmz ... RMARMY❤✊🏼
I want to get an RMZ 450 just for the challenge. It would probably complement my 2021 Honda 450R
My rmz450 2015 is much faster than my crf450r 2015 but that was a bad year for Honda . Lowest hp in class dual exhaust etc
i ride rm 125,250 ,2008 last year awesome bikes!
What clutch upgrades do you recomend?
The color combo that doesnt make sense, but looks sooo good!
Loosen engine mounts to kawi setting helps got my eye on better engine mounts for sure still saving money on what I paid for it
Thought I was uncomfortable on the rmz450 so went to a new 23 fc 450, what a mistake, got a new 23 fc 450 for sale 8 hours mint condition HMU
Slow rebound fork & shock, mostly the fork, also the compression looked fine on the fork may have to lighten compression up a little considering what you were hitting. I did think the ride hight was a little was off a little more sag please .
they should do a shootout between a 2023 rmz and 2018's other models, i like to see that
Yeah or just the last year of every brand with kick start
Hell yea bold new graphics!!!! I will stick with my 01 CR250
I hope Ken Roczen ride this bike
The rmz's is a great bike it's just that they don't have the great rider in AMA n MXGP on it.
Every owner since 2018 does the same 3 things. Longer link, drill the engine mounts, and swap a 13:1 piston. All would be free for Suzuki to do but they care so little about this platform they won't even do that.
I saw NEW 2022 advertised for $4,999 last week.
Sweet. Wonder if that particular dealer adds 1500 in freight/fuel surcharge. I've been seeing that going on locally lately. 🤔
@@yellowveedub been eyeballing a rmz450 myself. But they are jacking up the price with BS fees.
@@someoneyouknow96 i got my 22 for $7k otd last week
@@ShawB44 that's not too bad. I found the invoice for my 04crf450 just last week. 6300 plus taxes. I cant remember what the other fees were. But that was 18 years ago.
can you only map the rmz250 with smartphone ?
Both 250 and 450 with a smartphone
I have seen the Suzuki going for as little as $4999.00 brand new, on cycle trader.
“How to sell same bike for 7 years”
*5*
anything that comes out yearly is the same way broskie from cars to video games to electronics to literally everything not just bikes 😂 anything with yearly release dates is just the same as the last with maaaaybe 1 little difference but usually not 🤷♂️ thats just how it goes
If it ain't broken don't fix it.
@@TonySopeano46 there’s nothing wrong with it, it’s just people won’t give them a chance and call them trash without actually riding one
Is suzuki ever going to make an electric start mx model or not?
Electric start is for sissies.
@@someoneyouknow96 yeah whatever
@@nicholascanjura5051 they are supposed to in 2024 more and more rumors
@@someoneyouknow96 😂 Right on!
I think one of the biggest questions is when Suzuki will bring a new bike to bring it up to modern specs. I loved my Suzuki's and I really think they have something up their sleeves....
2024 apparently
Amazing 👍
2006 rmz450 weight was 220 what happened
Dry weight?
Bold new graphics
发动机还不更新吗？
I'm guessing I'd Rocky does good on Suzi, then Suzuki might resurrect a new ground up build.
I believe Ken will show how it’s done 2023, yes I’m sure he finished the job on the updates. Big chance Suzuki will have a new bike in 24’ now that Suzuki quit MotoGP, Suzuki now has Money!
Still no electric start
6k would be awesome
With the exception of going to 110 on the sag, every other setting they just talked about will make it worse.
Electric start. Seriously, its not a road bike. Its off road. Give more horse power and not lazy options. My thoughts
Hola bonita moto me gusta
These out of the box test are kinda irrelevant.there are not to many guys who buy a bike and not do the basics.suspension silencer and tires.
It’s funny when all these guys who review the bikes, talk about how you’re serious. Racers aren’t going to like it in stock form compared to some $12000 YZ450 or KTM 450. Well there is a huge price gap amongst them, but any serious racer is gonna ditch stock suspension anyways, same with the engine…. They are going to mod the engine for more HP regardless of brand. They are going to change tuning and gearing to make power come on differently. The European bikes and Bikes like Honda and Yamaha all will get changed to something else… yes the Suzuki is heavier but I’m the end after any serious rider gets ahold of it, it will be lightened up with aftermarket parts/modifications… whereas many other brands are pretty much already at their lightest because they have lighter sprockets, bolts, lighter components from the start and that’s why they cost a few thousand more upfront. 3-4K difference in price between a Suzuki and some KTM or new Yamaha is a lot…
Semoga bisa kebeli🤲🤲🤲
Naek mio aja
$5500 2022 rmz-250 brand new
Like to ride it
Just so behind in development. At least we know Ken's will be the best it can be. Suzuki needs to get with the program already. Maybe next year.
I don’t see it really any further behind than say a Kawasaki which nobody seems to talk about Kawasaki being old and outdated… even though I feel this Suzuki is more updated and built better/stronger than its KX450 rival.
@@MXvsATV144 Dude, the Kawie has been a great overall bike but last few years, especially, now with the “SR.” I like SUZUKI though, but l can’t see myself buying one…
Ask to mr suzuki why not made e start
Because E starts are for sissies.
RM Zed
Josh: this bike is the lowest hp 450
Also Josh: I turn faster lap times on a 350 than a 450
Relatively low peak hp is just not a "con"
Suzuki just isn’t trying anymore
If this bike is so bad why does it still have the most wins and the most elite riders choosing to ride this bike over and over? Just a thought
Not a fair comparison. No top level pro is riding a stick bike. They all run A kit of factory suspension, full exhaust, modded ECU with custom maps, built engine (most pros, some run stock or light mods), sprockets/chains/grips/bars, so it’s not even close to what you get off the showroom.
I never understand it either, I mean I have been seeing plenty of Suzuki Machines take holeshots and ride the same track conditions, leading races in Supercross the last few events. It was I think the LCQ or some qualifier where 2-3 Suzuki bikes from Privateers were taking holeshots and keeping same speeds as any other rider
Needs e start
Why have Suzuki dropped the ball on their bikes all these years?
✌🤙
Hola
First minute guy just rinses how shit the bike is and how it needs to be cheaper 🤣🤣🤣
Pengen
Day 9horas dai me avisa
Same old bike
$9000 for an unpopular, unwanted latest year model bike? Bruh why smhlmao it’s not a Kiwi or a Yamaha so why the premium price tag 🗣️🤦🏾♂️ I love Suzuki bikes (all my life in fact) but I’m not interested in paying that much for a Suz 😔
No one pays that much unless you're a fool.
@@MegaStreet11 damn right 💯
You can find them new in the $6500 a savings of around $4000 with taxes and freight fees compared to most models. That’s great value especially if you want to buy your kid a new bike.
@@kirkalvarez09 forget my kid, I want this bike.
i bought my first dirt bike got stolen in 4 days bought two more dirt bikes one didn’t even start when i got home the other ran for ten mins and died out bout a 50cc for my son too end went out same day the dirt bike world sucks i get ppl tryna make money but dam so i sold all of them and tried to get this 2023 suzy and turned out i needed a 650 credit score i’m done bro lol
My 13 year old kid has a 700 credit score.
Dude where did you buy you shit at wal mart ???
@@allenbond7221 basically
It’s one of the best bikes it looks like you’re afraid of the RM I’m glad I’m Gen X because your generation is Gen sissy