I got to play it on tabletop simulator and I had very positive feedback, I honestly couldn't fault it and I am really excited to get my copy, I thought it was a great game and very well done. So it's interesting to see the other side of the coin. Good on you for being honest, not every game is for every one.
Exactly. The game has done nearly 300k on KS. If I were the designer I’d pay attention to that and not waste my time getting upset about a negative review from some random bloke on TH-cam.
I got the opportunity to play test this game with a group of my close female mates and it was heaps of fun. The character designs were pretty funny and amusing, if you know the designers art it would make more sense. I wouldn’t think you’re the target audience but it’s interesting to see a diff perspective. Personally I found it flowed really well especially with a group of friends chatting and having fun and getting competitive :)
Appreciate an honest review of a game that is currently on crowdfunding. Rare stuff. Also good to see the criticism is based on the game and mechanics rather than getting mired in fretting about the subject matter. This is why I dealt with the "youtube bullshit".
I do agree that a huge part of the game boils down to the luck of the dice roll, and i respect your personal opinion of the game. But to label it a 'car crash' and to dismiss other people who are genuinely interested in the game, seems uncalled for. Yes, there's a lot of dice rolls and luck involved, but i think you're downplaying all the other fun parts of the game. It's also all about assessing your probabilities of the dice, risk management, making smart decisions on the spot, THEN having to deal with the possible outcomes of your dice results. You need to make a lot of strategic decisions throughout the game, like choosing when to stop while your dice/draws are sufficiently favorable, choosing the most favourable customers, managing your relationship with your opponents, even possible competitive dynamics amongst your established rivals (or highest earning dancer), sabotaging and choosing the best time to steal customers, and of course, resource management (obviously you would find the bar to be a hassle to move to when you immediately need more drinks; you should have thought about that earlier and planned ahead of time). The timing of the stage roster adds to the strategizing process too, and power cards are there to mix things up. So to label it a luck based dice game is definitely unfair in my opinion. This isnt a game of monopoly. And i also think the illustrations of the 'creepy' customers were just a silly poke at common pervy clients of nightclubs in real life. I dont think it was meant to represent all club goers, so.. lighten up?
I was so exited to see some stuff from this game earlier in the year, but now I'm super disappointed it's not even going to be a "real game". So much potential and they basically made it Snakes and Ladders.
At first I was intrigued at the idea of a game like this, but you're right, as I was listening to the game rules, I quickly realized there wasn't any meat to this. I'm not going to want to spend time on a game that gives me no more thrill than Zombie Dice or Dead Man's Draw does, and they do it in a fraction of the time. So thank you for your honest review. It might have been more interesting if theme was more about managing the nightclub and having worker placement. You could still do a lot of the push your luck, but also have to manage your employees and such. Like a better bouncer that only lets in richer customers, dancers that are more successful at relieving them of their cash.
Finally, a true preview/review of a crowdfunding game at the point that it truly matters. No 'shill' over-enthusiasm to have to suffer through. If designers don't offer you their future KS games for review I'll know the games not worth shit as they're unwilling to have a true gamer try it out! You're going to save me a fortune. I owe you a pint or something for introducing me to Carooka a while back too!
Even though I respect the game designer(s) for trying such a unique theme, I can't help thinking that something like this is doomed to fail when the novelty wears off. After the first play or two, no one sane is going to keep inviting their friends over to compete in their stripper board game. One-and-done might be fine if your game costs below $30- but Nightshift's MSRP is $95. That's _insane_ for something with such little staying power, even if the components and production are really good.
Was excited to back the game because of the unique theme but I was unsure given the price. I loved that you covered it since I consistently watch your videos. After watching, I read the rulebook and realized that dice rolls and die icon resolution are two of the main game mechanics, which I’m not the biggest fan of given their high luck factor. Although I opted not to back it after further research, I wish nothing but the best for Nightshift nonetheless!
Just with regards to the customer cards. I think they are meant to look horrible and creepy and make you uncomfortable as I imagine a lot of the customers in these places make the dancers feel this way. Very thematic I think
@@BoardGameBollocks I mean that's a whole debate I'm not sure I know enough about to comment lol. Game maybe has the right intentions but looks, well, bollocks 😂
Tbh I was expecting a much better game. The presentation is amazing it’s a real shame that the game boils down to random die rolls. Someone on here remarked that it looked like a poor man’s Talisman and I can definitely see that…wander around a track and roll a die. That’s game is trash too.
@@BoardGameBollocks I agree Talisman is fundamentally wafer-thin on gameplay since everything boils down to die rolls. But the different items and character abilities enable basic strategies. And despite the simplicity Talisman (at least with the early expansions) it's fun to play, especially online where the drudgery of stacking and replacing cards & counters is eliminated thanks to the computer. I've found it be a simple gateway game that non-gamers usually enjoy. Granted better random die rolling games like King of Tokyo and Fortune & Glory do exist- but I wouldn't call it complete trash. This one sounds half-baked, with a potentially interesting theme but little thought given to mechanics and some nightmare fuel artwork. Thanks for your honest review!
The main reason I'm glad that this game exists is that it led to this review, which undoubtedly provided more entertainment value than the game ever could. Keep up the strong work.
When I read the rules, I could not even figure out what is the loop of the game, this review confirmed my suspicions. It is very much like adult version of Talisman, you move and roll bunch of checks to see what happens. It is more of an experience than an actual strategy game. This is not your Pfister or Lacerda, it is so sad since the production looks great
I've been told that the creator posted a comment here to discuss the game with you but you hid their comments? Is that true? Just wondering why? Surely if there are issues you two can discuss them and maybe even make improvements to the game if you can think of some:)
I removed it because it was abusive. If you’re referring to the reply to you comment on KS then she edited her comment. She left out this which is disingenuous to say the least. “Whilst I appreciate that you accepted reviewing this theme when many others refused to, I should have known better than to send the game to someone who's notoriously known for fucking up the rules (you even proudly announce that in your bio!?)” I didn’t play the game wrong. The rules overview was just that - a brief overview so if I left anything out then thats because i can’t cover everything in a sub 10 min video. The rulebook I received has since been revised and I didn’t get the update until after I recorded the main A Roll so if I got something wrong it’s because it was unclear and rectified in the revised rules. I don’t usually review prototypes and this is why - I told the designer this but she assured me it was as close to a production copy it could get. Hope that helps.
@BoardGameBollocks aye cheers mate. It's nice to hear both sides of the coin. Just a shame if there are issues being spotted and improvements could be made , would be nice to come together and try to make.something the best it can be. Opinions will always vary mind. But thanks for the response :)
@cymraegddraig I delete all abusive comments on here. Had she approached me in a calm and rational manner then I think we could have gotten along. Our email exchanges were cordial and pleasant even when I had questions about the myriad of unclear rules. Oh well…what’s done is done. Football is on so excuse me for now 👍🏻
Even if it was a bit basic I’d have given it a punt but for £64 for the basic version before all the tax/shipping. Nope. I paid £100 for gloomhaven brand new lol
whoa - had no idea that you do reviews of games currently in the crowdsourcing phase of their release lifecycle. I got in touch with you last year about reviews for some of our released titles - I would like to hear more about your practices when it comes to rendering a review for games that are not fully manufactured and released VS ones that are? I'd assume this copy was provided by the publisher since it's not widely available - is this sponsored content? all the same - appreciate the honesty of the review as always =)
I was told it was the completed version, then told it was a prototype, then told it was completed but with some prototype components. There was some confusion with regards to rules in this one which is why I dont review prototypes. Wish I hadn’t bothered wasting my time on this what with all the hassle it’s caused. I don’t do sponsored content.
Regarding the success of this game on its crowdfunding campaign: I'm guessing that there are some folks that are backing this just to show how accepting they are of a game where your goal is to delude losers into thinking that you really care about them while swiping as much money as you can out of their pockets. Their acceptance of the theme as a show of their "goodness" in supporting sex workers is what they are backing and not the gameplay (which sounds pretty weak). I'll play Can't Stop if I wanna roll dice to meet a target number.
Again, unlike some others in this industry, I don't get upset over what games people play and make, this game is a game which is funding pretty quickly and if this is the type of game some people want to play, I say enjoy your game. With that said, it is interesting to see how predictable and similar some of the comments and support for the game is playing out and how similar the messaging seems 1) supporting feminist designer 2) supporting those people who work in sex industry/stripping and of course 3) how the theme is "better" than all those games about war or colonialism. Again, if people believe this, good for them and I hope they enjoy the game, but it is so predictable and interesting to see similar comments, almost reminds me how when you watch the news from across the country or even across the world how the newscasters use the same adjectives and terms in the story, almost like everyone is reading off a prepared script. I also am curious about the art and figures, a couple of years ago people were upset at game box art that had busty female vikings and sexy elves. I remember people dog piling on a couple of kickstarter games, which happened to be at the same time as some of their own KS games were attempting to fund and not doing nearly as well, but it was a thing that some board game art was exploiting women. If that was the case, why is this art ok? Again, if you like the designer, the theme, the art of this game, back the game, play the game, enjoy the game, I just think the success and some of the support for this game just highlights some of the inconsistencies in this hobby. Just watch the usual gatekeepers in board game social media come out and support this game and its theme and just look at how similar and predictable their messaging will be.
Thank you!!! I've been waiting for an actual review, but it seems that there are only previews... which seem to also be paid to praise the game without going into much detail. I've been following this game for a year without much info to go on, but I was so happy I was hesitant after seeing the price. You just saved me $100+; I cant thank you enough!!
I didn’t play the game wrong. I followed the rulebook and then it was amended after the video was recorded. Not sure what was changed as I didn’t bother to look.
I was quite tempted to back this, until I saw the 120$ for the deluxe edition. I was kinda sad, because I liked the theme and the presentation. Well, seems theres not much of an interesting game here.... Thx for your honest review and for making me feel better for not backing it.
As usual a very good and honest review. This game is at nearly 300,000$ on KS in a very short time. Unlike some of the people who are probably backing this game, I actually have no issue with what games people choose to play or not play. If this is a theme of a game that some people are going to enjoy, good for them, at the same time don't dog pile others who may like a pirate game or a game about mercantile trade during colonial times or a railroad game through the old west. Let people enjoy, play, and buy the games they like with themes they like. With that said, what I like about this review is it went into the actual game and the mechanics, because a lot of the hype for this game is going to be about the "who" and the stunning and brave theme here, where this review actually went into the "what" is it a good game? So I see the posts already about people backing the game over the "who" where as this review actually talks about the "what."
I LOVED NIGHTSHIFT! I jumped at the opportunity to play test when the creator asked for people and I honestly don't think you've accurately understood the rules based on what you’ve said.
@@BoardGameBollocks You literally said roll higher OR lower in your video. It’s obviously one or the other and you clearly didn’t know, you’re just lying and editing your caption to cover your ass
I was alluding to my earlier error, dumbo…sorry that connection was lost on you. Makes no difference. The game sucked which was the overall theme of the review and I stand by that. You’re biased anyway as you either backed the game or know the designer. I’m guessing it’s the latter.
@@BoardGameBollocksmay I quote yourself: "@cymraegddraig I delete all abusive comments on here " - so, are you gonna delete your own post or are you the only one allowed to abuse others? Just wondering...
Seems a total shame, there is everything in this box that should work, except of a game :D Customers being creepy actually seems well placed and intended so no issues there, and I was really waiting for some side field theme like villain managers, Sons of Anarchy-like games or some dark humor thing. This being a luck based casual drinking game is, I think, a massive waste of potential.
Admittedly I got one word wrong in the rules brief as the videos are completely unscripted (which was rectified in a later reference) and all hell broke loose. I’m all for being held to account but that’s insane.
I've backed it. Sends a message to the narrow minded that board games and board gamers are diverse and you don't get to only respect the fashionable diversity.
@@BoardGameBollocks @jasontemple6140 I almost had the same thought to pick it up just to give a middle finger to the pearl clutchers, but I agree with BGB that if the game isn't any fun, then it's an empty endorsement. ExoticCancer got all the theme and components right, but it's not a good game. It reminds me of all the franchise games-- the fanboys will buy them even if the game is garbage. I hope that ExoticCancer has a healthy takeaway that the board game community is receptive to her ideas and she just needs to spend more time learning about game design. It's a decent first effort; I hope she keeps going.
Glad to see a review of this, I really wanted to back it but cannot afford to right now and your review has put me at ease a little. Don't feel like I'll be missing out too much. There is actually a decent card game out there with this same theme called Lap Dance if you can get a go of that, I quite liked it!
I am so high right now. I am having problems understanding what I am seeing. Am I high or is this video high? This is so weird. It's such a terrible bad idea for a game premise, and a terrible looking dice determined game, and ... of course it should be terrible, that's thematic ... in a meta sort of way. "Lisa, Lauren & Bee" look like zombies. Zombie strippers. The whole board game looks like a b-movie about zombies in a cheap strip club. I think I've seen this movie ... on Tubi. Was the movie based off of the board game or was the board game based off of the movie? I can't follow the review and the neon purple and pink infused images. It's too complicated. I'm too high for this right now.
I disagree with you on the mechanic. The dice rolling push your luck games are very similar like this one, you test your luck and try to bail out at the last possible moment. The commitment dice rolls seem to be more troubling, as you lose the rest of your turn when making the roll. This can be a thematic element, still, it is a problematic part. However, all other things are true for this game. It is made to feel that anybody who goes to a night club is a pathetic loser and has to be stripped off his money. Creepy guys, adulterers, etc. If the designer thinks sex work is real work, why do you look down on your customers? You live off of them! The whole vibe of the game is very creepy in an unusual way. Yet, I still think the game itself isn't that bad and I am considering backing it, because of the unique theme and it seems the game works well with the proper playgroup. (Casual gamers who want to play a light NON-party 18+ game)
@@BoardGameBollocks the reason I mentioned in the other comment why it reminded Pandemic, because on your turn, you have 4 energy for 4 action, with which you can move, flip a customer or try to entice him. Similarly like in Pandemic where you move, cure disease or build a center. The dice rolling for the customer is my biggest concern too, as you have 8 or 12 rounds to roll successfully, then be successful in the push your luck minigame.
Ahhh yes... 😊 I just wait for its mediocre score on BGG. The minis have the expression of a log 🪵 and I must totally agree: artwork is awful 😞 the color is ok but easily could have been way better.
Thats more than once ive seen a fan/member of their community go after someone for "getting things wrong". Says a lot. The cult like dog piling in their discord also says a lot. Exotic Cancer checks out
@BoardGameBollocks ya I caught the mistake. Didn't seem all that meaningful to me. It's not a tutorial video. A friend and I were super interested. It's that weird defensiveness that scared him off . I wasn't totally sold and the mechanics for sure seem lacking. I like to see people take chances, glad it's going well on KS and hope it works out for everyone. I think I'll stay far away though
I seen the creators review here. Im glad you removed it. It blows my mind at how well this game is doing on KS. People really do just have money to blow (puns are always intended)
You must be new here... Getting views for posting a negative review . This dude couldn't give a rat's ass what you, me, or anyone for that matter thinks. That's why it's a great channel!
In reality this is more of a party game than a strategy game. Lots of wine and beer and trying to steal customers from your friends and pushing your luck when you think you can. For those days when So Clover and Scout are to mental.
What gross trash. There is another game trending in the BGG hotness (June 2024) that is also disgusting. Any complaint of it being inappropriate is instantly removed. That website is an echo chamber of woke cancer. Thanks for the review
@@BoardGameBollocks that sauna game also made it to #1 on the BGG hotness very briefly. It seems obvious there is some kind of bot manipulation to get these games to #1 and #2 right now
This game looks absolutely terrible. With the thousands of board games we have these days, who the fck is sitting there thinking, "I know, let's get Nightshift out"?
Apparently I played it wrong…same old bullsh!t from a bitter designer. The game is so simple it’s impossible to make a mistake. Rolling a die and trying to get higher than the number on a card isn’t nuclear physics…it’s a crap mechanic.
Usually like your stuff but the way you've decided to hide/delete comments from the designer when they've pointed out you were misinterpreting mechanics is poor form. If you don't like a game that's fine, not everything is for everyone, but misrepresenting it, whether intentionally or not is just bad.
The comment I hid was abusive mate. I didn’t play the game wrong. It’s funny how this accusation is always the first thing that always gets slung when I leave a negative review. The rule book I received has since been revised to make things clearer and I didn’t receive it until after I recorded the A-Roll footage. This is exactly the reason why I don’t review prototypes. I was assured that the copy I received would be a production copy but at the last minute I was told it would be a prototype. I told the designer I wasn’t happy but she said it was practically a final version…clearly it wasn’t. To be honest I don’t really care. The game sucked, what more can I say. .
@@BoardGameBollocks so the comments were abusive, that's quite the accusation. It's funny mate how defensive you are about what is basic objective feedback. You could've engaged with the designer, or pointed out it was a prototype in the edit, but I guess that's too much like effort, eh?
@deusex3124 I delete all abusive comments mate. I don’t consider that sort of thing objective. It’s my channel so I do as I please. If you don’t like it then watch something else…I couldn’t care less.
@@BoardGameBollocks People know what they are in for when they watch your shit. Complaining about it after the fact is asinine! Keep up the great work.
I suppose it's the best board game a stripper could design. I don't really mean that in the derogatory sense it sounds. I think the average carpenter or mechanic would also not design a very good board game regarding their profession or previous profession. I'd rather play board games designed by... board game designers or at the very least board game enthusiasts with a lot of experience. This is an example of why that's generally a best practice. This game could obviously be made infinitely better if it was made a eurogame about expending/investing effort rather than an ameritrash game about rolling dice and hoping. And I can see that as merely a passing board game enthusiast and not a dedicated board gamer. The only thing I disagree with this review on is the seediness of the customers depiction on the cards that you complained about. I would presume a former stripper would understand and inform the clientele of a strip club for a board game better than anyone else could. I also don't take offense because I've never been to a strip club and have no desire to ever go to a strip club.
I’m a medic (technically a psychiatrist) and like the look of the new critical care game that I’ve seen a playthrough of online. Genuinely looks like a fun and relatively true to actual medical practise game. I can imagine doing a psychiatric version of it too, but reckon it’d lose most of its impact for non psychiatrists.
The reason why she made this "good" game (actually, I find it an okay game with a unique theme) because she has a simp designer who helped her. The problem is that he is not a great designer. Used the Pandemic system as a baseline, then added a fine push your luck element to it. This is an excellent 90s, early 2000s game. 20 years later, not so much. Still I find it decent for what it is. I have issues with other things, not the game mechanic.
I think this game is just a thinly veiled attempt to sell NSFW models to wargamers. It's genuinely creepy that this game exists and the loop is to gold dig creepy customers. It's like it's teaching you to dehumanized everyone involved here
I find it odd that on the one had this game has been labelled as “empowering” yet on the other features creepy perverts having crafty wanks in private rooms. Surely that’s a contradiction?
Was there not an issue with elves and Vikings being to sexy on box art and the very same people who had that issue are now saying how stunning and brave this art is
So much bitching and moaning about this game online, people play games about murder but heaven forbid we show a woman's body. What they should be complaining about is the gameplay.
I was interested in the game for its controversial theme. However the gameplay doesn't look anything special for its price. Also, if the author wants to normalise the work of the stripper, why all the male customers in the cards are depicted as disgusting and close to monsters than humans. If she really wants to normalise sex work the message wouldn't be better by depicting people as... People? Actually on her other drawings i see that she draws most of males in that way and as i don't support misogynistic games, i don't support who represents men like that
Funny that despite the game being top in BGG hotness, I see this video 12 days late and only because a third person referred me. I really don't get it. So, a lot of American gamers flipping out over the theme, ok... whatever. I read the rules ...and... even from the rules I can see there is no game there. I can not see how any gamer would say otherwise. Except if you only play mass market games, then gameplay might be up your alley. Otherwise, all the positive buzz must be virtue signaling or delusion. Can't explain otherwise. Also, neither do I like the miniatures nor the artwork. It just doesn't look good. But nowadays, if there a naked boobs in it you have to either be full of moral outrage and hate it (because boob evil?) or full glowing virtue signaling support (because... empowerment?) But just see it as it is. It's a bad game😅
I got to play it on tabletop simulator and I had very positive feedback, I honestly couldn't fault it and I am really excited to get my copy, I thought it was a great game and very well done. So it's interesting to see the other side of the coin. Good on you for being honest, not every game is for every one.
Exactly. The game has done nearly 300k on KS. If I were the designer I’d pay attention to that and not waste my time getting upset about a negative review from some random bloke on TH-cam.
I should have known you would be one of the only reviewers with enough bullocks to do a review of this game.
Yep. No way Tom Vasel could touch this! I'm glad SOMEBODY had the... (ahem) BOLLOCKS to do it...
Years ago, Rahdo did a playthrough and review of Lapdance.
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I got the opportunity to play test this game with a group of my close female mates and it was heaps of fun. The character designs were pretty funny and amusing, if you know the designers art it would make more sense. I wouldn’t think you’re the target audience but it’s interesting to see a diff perspective. Personally I found it flowed really well especially with a group of friends chatting and having fun and getting competitive :)
Appreciate an honest review of a game that is currently on crowdfunding. Rare stuff. Also good to see the criticism is based on the game and mechanics rather than getting mired in fretting about the subject matter. This is why I dealt with the "youtube bullshit".
I do agree that a huge part of the game boils down to the luck of the dice roll, and i respect your personal opinion of the game. But to label it a 'car crash' and to dismiss other people who are genuinely interested in the game, seems uncalled for.
Yes, there's a lot of dice rolls and luck involved, but i think you're downplaying all the other fun parts of the game. It's also all about assessing your probabilities of the dice, risk management, making smart decisions on the spot, THEN having to deal with the possible outcomes of your dice results.
You need to make a lot of strategic decisions throughout the game, like choosing when to stop while your dice/draws are sufficiently favorable, choosing the most favourable customers, managing your relationship with your opponents, even possible competitive dynamics amongst your established rivals (or highest earning dancer), sabotaging and choosing the best time to steal customers, and of course, resource management (obviously you would find the bar to be a hassle to move to when you immediately need more drinks; you should have thought about that earlier and planned ahead of time). The timing of the stage roster adds to the strategizing process too, and power cards are there to mix things up.
So to label it a luck based dice game is definitely unfair in my opinion. This isnt a game of monopoly.
And i also think the illustrations of the 'creepy' customers were just a silly poke at common pervy clients of nightclubs in real life. I dont think it was meant to represent all club goers, so.. lighten up?
Sending you this game was one of the best decisions they ever could have made
The customers are supposed to be creepy. It reflects real life club costumers in an attempt to show the player what dancers have to deal with.
The art work most definitely does not reflect real life. They are exaggerated caricatures.
Pretty sure this video just pushed Nightshift to the #1 top-trending spot on BGG.
I hope the game does well so I can smell the disappointment when they actually play it.
@@BoardGameBollocks hahaha
@@BoardGameBollocks wow, you're actually an ass.
I was so exited to see some stuff from this game earlier in the year, but now I'm super disappointed it's not even going to be a "real game". So much potential and they basically made it Snakes and Ladders.
At first I was intrigued at the idea of a game like this, but you're right, as I was listening to the game rules, I quickly realized there wasn't any meat to this. I'm not going to want to spend time on a game that gives me no more thrill than Zombie Dice or Dead Man's Draw does, and they do it in a fraction of the time. So thank you for your honest review. It might have been more interesting if theme was more about managing the nightclub and having worker placement. You could still do a lot of the push your luck, but also have to manage your employees and such. Like a better bouncer that only lets in richer customers, dancers that are more successful at relieving them of their cash.
Finally, a true preview/review of a crowdfunding game at the point that it truly matters. No 'shill' over-enthusiasm to have to suffer through. If designers don't offer you their future KS games for review I'll know the games not worth shit as they're unwilling to have a true gamer try it out! You're going to save me a fortune. I owe you a pint or something for introducing me to Carooka a while back too!
Even though I respect the game designer(s) for trying such a unique theme, I can't help thinking that something like this is doomed to fail when the novelty wears off. After the first play or two, no one sane is going to keep inviting their friends over to compete in their stripper board game.
One-and-done might be fine if your game costs below $30- but Nightshift's MSRP is $95. That's _insane_ for something with such little staying power, even if the components and production are really good.
Thoughtful and well reasoned points, as always. Great stuff!
Was excited to back the game because of the unique theme but I was unsure given the price. I loved that you covered it since I consistently watch your videos.
After watching, I read the rulebook and realized that dice rolls and die icon resolution are two of the main game mechanics, which I’m not the biggest fan of given their high luck factor.
Although I opted not to back it after further research, I wish nothing but the best for Nightshift nonetheless!
You're hilarious, and I love the no-bullshit review. Subscribed.
Appreciate the video, good to see people brave enough to review & discuss the game.
Just with regards to the customer cards. I think they are meant to look horrible and creepy and make you uncomfortable as I imagine a lot of the customers in these places make the dancers feel this way. Very thematic I think
I’ve read people say this game is “empowering” yet there’s creepy pervs letching over women in it…isn’t that a contradiction?
@@BoardGameBollocks I mean that's a whole debate I'm not sure I know enough about to comment lol. Game maybe has the right intentions but looks, well, bollocks 😂
Tbh I was expecting a much better game. The presentation is amazing it’s a real shame that the game boils down to random die rolls.
Someone on here remarked that it looked like a poor man’s Talisman and I can definitely see that…wander around a track and roll a die. That’s game is trash too.
@@BoardGameBollocks I agree Talisman is fundamentally wafer-thin on gameplay since everything boils down to die rolls. But the different items and character abilities enable basic strategies. And despite the simplicity Talisman (at least with the early expansions) it's fun to play, especially online where the drudgery of stacking and replacing cards & counters is eliminated thanks to the computer. I've found it be a simple gateway game that non-gamers usually enjoy. Granted better random die rolling games like King of Tokyo and Fortune & Glory do exist- but I wouldn't call it complete trash.
This one sounds half-baked, with a potentially interesting theme but little thought given to mechanics and some nightmare fuel artwork. Thanks for your honest review!
The main reason I'm glad that this game exists is that it led to this review, which undoubtedly provided more entertainment value than the game ever could. Keep up the strong work.
When I read the rules, I could not even figure out what is the loop of the game, this review confirmed my suspicions. It is very much like adult version of Talisman, you move and roll bunch of checks to see what happens. It is more of an experience than an actual strategy game. This is not your Pfister or Lacerda, it is so sad since the production looks great
That’s a decent analogy actually
I've been told that the creator posted a comment here to discuss the game with you but you hid their comments? Is that true? Just wondering why?
Surely if there are issues you two can discuss them and maybe even make improvements to the game if you can think of some:)
I removed it because it was abusive. If you’re referring to the reply to you comment on KS then she edited her comment.
She left out this which is disingenuous to say the least.
“Whilst I appreciate that you accepted reviewing this theme when many others refused to, I should have known better than to send the game to someone who's notoriously known for fucking up the rules (you even proudly announce that in your bio!?)”
I didn’t play the game wrong. The rules overview was just that - a brief overview so if I left anything out then thats because i can’t cover everything in a sub 10 min video.
The rulebook I received has since been revised and I didn’t get the update until after I recorded the main A Roll so if I got something wrong it’s because it was unclear and rectified in the revised rules.
I don’t usually review prototypes and this is why - I told the designer this but she assured me it was as close to a production copy it could get.
Hope that helps.
@BoardGameBollocks aye cheers mate. It's nice to hear both sides of the coin. Just a shame if there are issues being spotted and improvements could be made , would be nice to come together and try to make.something the best it can be.
Opinions will always vary mind. But thanks for the response :)
@cymraegddraig I delete all abusive comments on here. Had she approached me in a calm and rational manner then I think we could have gotten along. Our email exchanges were cordial and pleasant even when I had questions about the myriad of unclear rules.
Oh well…what’s done is done.
Football is on so excuse me for now 👍🏻
Cheers guv. Enjoy :)
as a fellow welshman and content creator i have decided to award you with the prize for best username :)
What I do like the miniatures! ❤🔥 What I don't like all the rest of the game.
The game may be good for a few laughs and rounds with the right group. But not 100 bucks good.
This will be another one of those games that costs silly amounts on release, and is soon cut to 20% and then into junk shops for a fiver.
@FatPob001 it’s getting buzz because of the theme. The game itself is dire. Really disappointed as I was hope for so much more.
Even if it was a bit basic I’d have given it a punt but for £64 for the basic version before all the tax/shipping. Nope. I paid £100 for gloomhaven brand new lol
You got robbed mate…it was £70 when it first came out
never saw a preview like this, during a KS ;) ❤
all it has is the minis, which is something you can get yourself 3d printed if you are into that sort of thing
Not sure why anyone would want 3D printer stripper minis
@@BoardGameBollocks the same reason they would want female barbarians in chain-mail bikini
@Wolcik3000 Stops their nipples getting sliced off mate…invaluable protection
I guess this review won't be going on the kickstarter page. 😂
I vote for this video to be on there 😂
I posted it to generate a discussion on it and see if maybe it could be made better if there are issues :)
@@cymraegddraig game would need a huge redesign, doubt that will happen.
Just waiting for the backers to start dog piling because someone didn’t like the game they paid for.
In the immortal words of Mr. Torgue High-Five Flexington: "I resent you for disliking a game I spent money on! Time to die!"
whoa - had no idea that you do reviews of games currently in the crowdsourcing phase of their release lifecycle. I got in touch with you last year about reviews for some of our released titles - I would like to hear more about your practices when it comes to rendering a review for games that are not fully manufactured and released VS ones that are? I'd assume this copy was provided by the publisher since it's not widely available - is this sponsored content? all the same - appreciate the honesty of the review as always =)
I was told it was the completed version, then told it was a prototype, then told it was completed but with some prototype components. There was some confusion with regards to rules in this one which is why I dont review prototypes. Wish I hadn’t bothered wasting my time on this what with all the hassle it’s caused.
I don’t do sponsored content.
The customers in this game are just your average reddit mods
Regarding the success of this game on its crowdfunding campaign: I'm guessing that there are some folks that are backing this just to show how accepting they are of a game where your goal is to delude losers into thinking that you really care about them while swiping as much money as you can out of their pockets. Their acceptance of the theme as a show of their "goodness" in supporting sex workers is what they are backing and not the gameplay (which sounds pretty weak). I'll play Can't Stop if I wanna roll dice to meet a target number.
If the games good then I’ll play it, but truth be told this was trash irrespective of the theme.
Exactly
Deluding losers into thinking you care about them, while swiping their money - a game about lapdancing, or Kickstarter ? 😂
Again, unlike some others in this industry, I don't get upset over what games people play and make, this game is a game which is funding pretty quickly and if this is the type of game some people want to play, I say enjoy your game. With that said, it is interesting to see how predictable and similar some of the comments and support for the game is playing out and how similar the messaging seems 1) supporting feminist designer 2) supporting those people who work in sex industry/stripping and of course 3) how the theme is "better" than all those games about war or colonialism. Again, if people believe this, good for them and I hope they enjoy the game, but it is so predictable and interesting to see similar comments, almost reminds me how when you watch the news from across the country or even across the world how the newscasters use the same adjectives and terms in the story, almost like everyone is reading off a prepared script. I also am curious about the art and figures, a couple of years ago people were upset at game box art that had busty female vikings and sexy elves. I remember people dog piling on a couple of kickstarter games, which happened to be at the same time as some of their own KS games were attempting to fund and not doing nearly as well, but it was a thing that some board game art was exploiting women. If that was the case, why is this art ok? Again, if you like the designer, the theme, the art of this game, back the game, play the game, enjoy the game, I just think the success and some of the support for this game just highlights some of the inconsistencies in this hobby. Just watch the usual gatekeepers in board game social media come out and support this game and its theme and just look at how similar and predictable their messaging will be.
An unwoke game from an unwoke reviewer, highly appreciated all around.
Has this game not just been started on Kickstarter? or is that a second edition 😂😂😜
Just started. Made over £225k which is astonishing for a game this bad.
@@BoardGameBollocks Just shows how starved this particular market is if they're throwing so much money at a bad game.
Whelp, my money was going to this or Stuka Ace. Thanks for helping push me in one direction. My ass was gonna be all over Poles regardless.
Thank you!!! I've been waiting for an actual review, but it seems that there are only previews... which seem to also be paid to praise the game without going into much detail. I've been following this game for a year without much info to go on, but I was so happy I was hesitant after seeing the price. You just saved me $100+; I cant thank you enough!!
@ChelseaWhite-v3r I'm listening. How did he get the rules wrong?
@@BoardGameBollocks instead of answering my question, she just deletes her comment. 🤷♂️
I didn’t play the game wrong. I followed the rulebook and then it was amended after the video was recorded. Not sure what was changed as I didn’t bother to look.
I've spent a bit of time in Melbourne strip clubs and if I recall the VIP room wasn't $500.
I was quite tempted to back this, until I saw the 120$ for the deluxe edition. I was kinda sad, because I liked the theme and the presentation. Well, seems theres not much of an interesting game here....
Thx for your honest review and for making me feel better for not backing it.
Wow is it just me or has Tom Vasel lost a lot of weight.
Ouch! Must be triggering AF for a client to see how he's viewed by a stripper..
Eh?
Truest of comments here. If you think about your customers this way, why do you work there and be proud of it? It cannot go both ways.
As usual a very good and honest review. This game is at nearly 300,000$ on KS in a very short time. Unlike some of the people who are probably backing this game, I actually have no issue with what games people choose to play or not play. If this is a theme of a game that some people are going to enjoy, good for them, at the same time don't dog pile others who may like a pirate game or a game about mercantile trade during colonial times or a railroad game through the old west. Let people enjoy, play, and buy the games they like with themes they like. With that said, what I like about this review is it went into the actual game and the mechanics, because a lot of the hype for this game is going to be about the "who" and the stunning and brave theme here, where this review actually went into the "what" is it a good game? So I see the posts already about people backing the game over the "who" where as this review actually talks about the "what."
Thanks for the brutal honesty. 🔥
Imagine the world we'd live in if this theme was on Game Of The Year material. LOL at the Gay Sauna callback.
Seems like the perfect game to play one handed. 🤔😁
✊🏻💦
I LOVED NIGHTSHIFT! I jumped at the opportunity to play test when the creator asked for people and I honestly don't think you've accurately understood the rules based on what you’ve said.
I did understand the rules. Did you not read the video description?
@@BoardGameBollocks You literally said roll higher OR lower in your video. It’s obviously one or the other and you clearly didn’t know, you’re just lying and editing your caption to cover your ass
I was alluding to my earlier error, dumbo…sorry that connection was lost on you.
Makes no difference. The game sucked which was the overall theme of the review and I stand by that.
You’re biased anyway as you either backed the game or know the designer. I’m guessing it’s the latter.
@@BoardGameBollocksmay I quote yourself: "@cymraegddraig I delete all abusive comments on here " - so, are you gonna delete your own post or are you the only one allowed to abuse others? Just wondering...
There’s no profanity in my reply to you, silly sausage…
Seems a total shame, there is everything in this box that should work, except of a game :D Customers being creepy actually seems well placed and intended so no issues there, and I was really waiting for some side field theme like villain managers, Sons of Anarchy-like games or some dark humor thing. This being a luck based casual drinking game is, I think, a massive waste of potential.
Well board games have changed since Cluedo.
Have you not seen the movie?
@@BoardGameBollocks hopefully the movie for this game will be better...
I'm not sure what is more pathetic, the laziness of the game design on offer or the lame bot comment attempts to mitigate BGB's scathing review.
Admittedly I got one word wrong in the rules brief as the videos are completely unscripted (which was rectified in a later reference) and all hell broke loose.
I’m all for being held to account but that’s insane.
"reviews" are all using the same adjectives and language
Looking at those minis makes me want to put my own sticky patches on the board.
I haven’t played this yet, but take reviews with a grain of salt.. this fellow also hated Wasteland Express Delivery Service…
Because it was shite 🤷♂️
lol love the callback to gay sauna. That was a great review!
That’s was terrible game as well…a real shame
@@BoardGameBollockshave you seen how much this game has made on kickstarter tho?
Yes. Good luck to them.
I've backed it. Sends a message to the narrow minded that board games and board gamers are diverse and you don't get to only respect the fashionable diversity.
The game itself is crap mate. Can be diverse as you like but if the game itself sucks then what’s the point!
its a stunning and brave theme
@@BoardGameBollocks @jasontemple6140 I almost had the same thought to pick it up just to give a middle finger to the pearl clutchers, but I agree with BGB that if the game isn't any fun, then it's an empty endorsement. ExoticCancer got all the theme and components right, but it's not a good game. It reminds me of all the franchise games-- the fanboys will buy them even if the game is garbage. I hope that ExoticCancer has a healthy takeaway that the board game community is receptive to her ideas and she just needs to spend more time learning about game design. It's a decent first effort; I hope she keeps going.
Glad to see a review of this, I really wanted to back it but cannot afford to right now and your review has put me at ease a little. Don't feel like I'll be missing out too much. There is actually a decent card game out there with this same theme called Lap Dance if you can get a go of that, I quite liked it!
Yea I saw that about 10 years ago
@BoardGameBollocks aye, it's been around for a while haha
Another amazing review for posterity. The reference to Gay Sauna absolutely brilliant.
Hey bruv, if you dont have any use for that review copy I'll take it off ur hands. 😉
Sold it and gave the cash to a local charity
@@BoardGameBollocks Who is Charity and which local club she working at?
Boom boom! 👍🏻
I am so high right now. I am having problems understanding what I am seeing. Am I high or is this video high? This is so weird. It's such a terrible bad idea for a game premise, and a terrible looking dice determined game, and ... of course it should be terrible, that's thematic ... in a meta sort of way.
"Lisa, Lauren & Bee" look like zombies. Zombie strippers. The whole board game looks like a b-movie about zombies in a cheap strip club. I think I've seen this movie ... on Tubi. Was the movie based off of the board game or was the board game based off of the movie?
I can't follow the review and the neon purple and pink infused images. It's too complicated. I'm too high for this right now.
Comment of the week
@@BoardGameBollocks😂😂😂
I disagree with you on the mechanic. The dice rolling push your luck games are very similar like this one, you test your luck and try to bail out at the last possible moment. The commitment dice rolls seem to be more troubling, as you lose the rest of your turn when making the roll. This can be a thematic element, still, it is a problematic part.
However, all other things are true for this game. It is made to feel that anybody who goes to a night club is a pathetic loser and has to be stripped off his money. Creepy guys, adulterers, etc. If the designer thinks sex work is real work, why do you look down on your customers? You live off of them!
The whole vibe of the game is very creepy in an unusual way. Yet, I still think the game itself isn't that bad and I am considering backing it, because of the unique theme and it seems the game works well with the proper playgroup. (Casual gamers who want to play a light NON-party 18+ game)
The central mechanic is trying to roll higher than the number on a card. That’s it…
As I said in the review. I’d rather play Zombie Dice.
@@BoardGameBollocks the reason I mentioned in the other comment why it reminded Pandemic, because on your turn, you have 4 energy for 4 action, with which you can move, flip a customer or try to entice him. Similarly like in Pandemic where you move, cure disease or build a center.
The dice rolling for the customer is my biggest concern too, as you have 8 or 12 rounds to roll successfully, then be successful in the push your luck minigame.
My understanding is that the designer was herself a dancer. So maybe that's her experience?
Goodness me! They’ll be making games about gay saunas next for goodness sake.
Thanks for the reality check.
I'll stick to Artipia's 'Lap Dance,' a better game than you'd expect.
Wow u got this one fast 😱
Yeah i had a suspicion this game was bad. Cool theme and pretty on the outside, but thats it.
That's unfortunately true of many games, especially on Kickstarter.
Ahhh yes... 😊 I just wait for its mediocre score on BGG. The minis have the expression of a log 🪵 and I must totally agree: artwork is awful 😞 the color is ok but easily could have been way better.
Jesus.....a Game for everbody😂i'm not gonna play this with My son i'm very interesting in the minis of the game😅😅😅
Thats more than once ive seen a fan/member of their community go after someone for "getting things wrong".
Says a lot. The cult like dog piling in their discord also says a lot.
Exotic Cancer checks out
I got one word wrong. Higher rather than lower…the principle remains the same. Game hinges on a random die roll. Not god enough.
@BoardGameBollocks ya I caught the mistake. Didn't seem all that meaningful to me. It's not a tutorial video.
A friend and I were super interested. It's that weird defensiveness that scared him off . I wasn't totally sold and the mechanics for sure seem lacking.
I like to see people take chances, glad it's going well on KS and hope it works out for everyone. I think I'll stay far away though
Noice
I seen the creators review here. Im glad you removed it. It blows my mind at how well this game is doing on KS. People really do just have money to blow (puns are always intended)
I remove all abusive comments. Designer could’ve been humble and it would’ve stayed up. Not my problem
Finally a game about your day job. 😂 Good review mate!
Oh no, this is not very good.
Oh wow I got to play test it and found it really fun! understand you get more views by saying it’s bad though 😉
How did you figure that out?
What a silly thing to say.
Just another troll mate
You must be new here... Getting views for posting a negative review . This dude couldn't give a rat's ass what you, me, or anyone for that matter thinks. That's why it's a great channel!
oh wow, someone backed the game...your buyer's regret is showing.
In reality this is more of a party game than a strategy game. Lots of wine and beer and trying to steal customers from your friends and pushing your luck when you think you can. For those days when So Clover and Scout are to mental.
This is not a party game…that’s mental
Thanks for the review. Dont think this will hit the table on family game night.
Honestly the game sounds terrible. Your review of the customer card art has me dead though.
What gross trash. There is another game trending in the BGG hotness (June 2024) that is also disgusting. Any complaint of it being inappropriate is instantly removed. That website is an echo chamber of woke cancer.
Thanks for the review
What is the other game?
The Dick sits is from the same bloke who made Gay Sauna. I wonder if he’s improved his design skills…would t take much.
@@BoardGameBollocks that sauna game also made it to #1 on the BGG hotness very briefly. It seems obvious there is some kind of bot manipulation to get these games to #1 and #2 right now
This game looks absolutely terrible. With the thousands of board games we have these days, who the fck is sitting there thinking, "I know, let's get Nightshift out"?
Apparently I played it wrong…same old bullsh!t from a bitter designer. The game is so simple it’s impossible to make a mistake. Rolling a die and trying to get higher than the number on a card isn’t nuclear physics…it’s a crap mechanic.
Usually like your stuff but the way you've decided to hide/delete comments from the designer when they've pointed out you were misinterpreting mechanics is poor form. If you don't like a game that's fine, not everything is for everyone, but misrepresenting it, whether intentionally or not is just bad.
The comment I hid was abusive mate.
I didn’t play the game wrong. It’s funny how this accusation is always the first thing that always gets slung when I leave a negative review.
The rule book I received has since been revised to make things clearer and I didn’t receive it until after I recorded the A-Roll footage. This is exactly the reason why I don’t review prototypes. I was assured that the copy I received would be a production copy but at the last minute I was told it would be a prototype. I told the designer I wasn’t happy but she said it was practically a final version…clearly it wasn’t.
To be honest I don’t really care. The game sucked, what more can I say.
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@@BoardGameBollocks so the comments were abusive, that's quite the accusation. It's funny mate how defensive you are about what is basic objective feedback.
You could've engaged with the designer, or pointed out it was a prototype in the edit, but I guess that's too much like effort, eh?
@deusex3124 I delete all abusive comments mate. I don’t consider that sort of thing objective. It’s my channel so I do as I please. If you don’t like it then watch something else…I couldn’t care less.
@@BoardGameBollocks People know what they are in for when they watch your shit. Complaining about it after the fact is asinine! Keep up the great work.
@@BoardGameBollocksWell said, you're awesome, love your channel
I suppose it's the best board game a stripper could design. I don't really mean that in the derogatory sense it sounds. I think the average carpenter or mechanic would also not design a very good board game regarding their profession or previous profession.
I'd rather play board games designed by... board game designers or at the very least board game enthusiasts with a lot of experience. This is an example of why that's generally a best practice. This game could obviously be made infinitely better if it was made a eurogame about expending/investing effort rather than an ameritrash game about rolling dice and hoping. And I can see that as merely a passing board game enthusiast and not a dedicated board gamer.
The only thing I disagree with this review on is the seediness of the customers depiction on the cards that you complained about. I would presume a former stripper would understand and inform the clientele of a strip club for a board game better than anyone else could. I also don't take offense because I've never been to a strip club and have no desire to ever go to a strip club.
I’m a medic (technically a psychiatrist) and like the look of the new critical care game that I’ve seen a playthrough of online. Genuinely looks like a fun and relatively true to actual medical practise game. I can imagine doing a psychiatric version of it too, but reckon it’d lose most of its impact for non psychiatrists.
The reason why she made this "good" game (actually, I find it an okay game with a unique theme) because she has a simp designer who helped her. The problem is that he is not a great designer. Used the Pandemic system as a baseline, then added a fine push your luck element to it. This is an excellent 90s, early 2000s game. 20 years later, not so much. Still I find it decent for what it is. I have issues with other things, not the game mechanic.
Pandemic? That’s the last game that came to mind when playing this.
@@BoardGameBollocks well I don’t know - maybe something about diseases spreading…
@@BoardGameBollocks Area Control? LOL
I think this game is just a thinly veiled attempt to sell NSFW models to wargamers.
It's genuinely creepy that this game exists and the loop is to gold dig creepy customers. It's like it's teaching you to dehumanized everyone involved here
I find it odd that on the one had this game has been labelled as “empowering” yet on the other features creepy perverts having crafty wanks in private rooms.
Surely that’s a contradiction?
Was there not an issue with elves and Vikings being to sexy on box art and the very same people who had that issue are now saying how stunning and brave this art is
So much bitching and moaning about this game online, people play games about murder but heaven forbid we show a woman's body. What they should be complaining about is the gameplay.
Exactly. I didn’t mention the theme as it doesnt bother me. That fact it’s attached to a shit game does…
I was interested in the game for its controversial theme. However the gameplay doesn't look anything special for its price. Also, if the author wants to normalise the work of the stripper, why all the male customers in the cards are depicted as disgusting and close to monsters than humans. If she really wants to normalise sex work the message wouldn't be better by depicting people as... People? Actually on her other drawings i see that she draws most of males in that way and as i don't support misogynistic games, i don't support who represents men like that
oh EC draws those men SUPER gross on purpose XDD
Funny that despite the game being top in BGG hotness, I see this video 12 days late and only because a third person referred me. I really don't get it. So, a lot of American gamers flipping out over the theme, ok... whatever. I read the rules ...and... even from the rules I can see there is no game there. I can not see how any gamer would say otherwise. Except if you only play mass market games, then gameplay might be up your alley. Otherwise, all the positive buzz must be virtue signaling or delusion. Can't explain otherwise. Also, neither do I like the miniatures nor the artwork. It just doesn't look good. But nowadays, if there a naked boobs in it you have to either be full of moral outrage and hate it (because boob evil?) or full glowing virtue signaling support (because... empowerment?) But just see it as it is. It's a bad game😅
well said
Thanks for the review... Hard pass!
This game does not need to exist
no game needs to exist.
@@ianw0ng valid point. Let’s get rid of them all, starting with this one. Then, let’s play the rest of them.
I'm so surprised this game is terrible!
Glad for the review. This game is just gross.
That is very precise. It is not necessarily bad, it is gross.
Thanks mate, you've probably saved some people from wasting their money on this turd of a game
It’s got £240k on KS so that speaks volumes…volumes about what exactly is up for debate.